Tabitha Brown: What Happens When You Finally Stop Pretending

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Gardening might just grow on you. Little, more to value. While Stocks last selected stores GB only in store for the 12th or the 36th. Welcome back everyone to the School of Greatness Fair. Excited about our guests. We have the inspiring Tabacom Brown in the house. So good to see you. Very good. Thank you for having me. Welcome to the show. It's been amazing to watch your journey specifically over the last five years. Just kind of expand and explode in a positive, powerful way. And we were just talking off camera about how when you fully stepped into who you authentically were. That's when everything started to expand. Yeah. And you started to attract the right things for your life. You started to magnify your audience and community. You started to expand financially, relationally with positive abundance. And I think it's really cool that this all happened for you. And I'm curious, your new book, it's called I Didn't New Thing, 30 Days To Living Free. I'm curious, what was the thing that sets you free to create more abundance in your life in a positive way? Oh, I think the thing that set me free, you know, my story I was sick, right? For quite some time, about a year and seven months. And I really thought in that dark season, because you know, I was seeking darkness content. And what was wrong with me, they were doing all, you know, running tests all the time. And giving me guinea pig medication is what I would call it, because they can diagnose you. But try this and see if you feel better, right? You fall into this depression, which I did, because it's like I know something's not right with my body. I know I don't feel normal. And they can't tell me anything, right? And I thought God had forgotten about me. And so I think when I got to that lowest point, I was like, you know, I'm from North Carolina, I grew up in the church and I used to be this person. And I still am who was excited to be a woman of faith, right? And I was like, here I am really thinking like I have all this faith, but I feel like God has left me. Really? And so I was like, okay, Lord, this time, because what I also realized was I was habitually praying. And that means I was just praying out of habit. But I wasn't really meaning or believing what I was saying. Can you give me an example? You know how you grow up and it's like, just for example, like God is great, God is good. Let us think for the spoon, right? You talk that as a kid on how to pray for your food. That's a habit that we pick up. It wasn't an attention. It wasn't intentional. Like even though I was praying God, please help me to feel better, God, please heal me. Like I was just saying because it's like, oh, this is what we do at church. So I realized like, oh wait, I need to unlearn how to habitually pray. And I really need to seek Him truly and let Him have me. Wow. Right? What's the difference between habitual prayer and seeking God and faith and allowing Him to be inside of you? The difference is habitually you're taught. I was taught how to pray that way. I was taught how to be a person of faith. I was taught how to go to church, how to worship. But when I say, God, I'm a stripping cling. My prayer was, God, if you heal me, you can have me. Wow. That meant I'm not going to do it my way anymore and how I was taught. I'm going to do it the way you created me to do it. That meant I'm going to allow you to deposit inside of me like only you can. Nobody else will get this credit or the glory for it. Right? And so that's what got me free. I started taking layers off when I prayed that prayer. I was in my bathroom. I remember and my prayer was, God, if you heal me, you can have me. Something changed that day. I can't explain it. I just felt different. I wasn't healed in the moment. But when I left the bathroom, I felt different. And from that day, I've just been taking layers off ever since and allowing myself to be who God has called me to be. Wow. So, yeah. Do you feel like you were sick physically and depressed emotionally or mentally because you were out of alignment with who you were meant to be? Absolutely. I definitely think that plays a huge, huge role in it. I think that I also have a gift, right? So, we all have gifts. I was born with the gift of where I can dream things that come to pass. I see things. I can hear things. And I remember a time when I tried to pray that awake because it was scary. You know, growing up that way and people thinking, you crazy because you can dream something and tell them and then it happens or you see something and you tell them. It wasn't a fun gift to have as a kid or as a young adult, right? But I remember I went like a good, felt like about six years where I prayed like, I don't want this anymore. And when I didn't have it as often, it felt like I was missing a part of it. Wow. But what I realized is when I would have a dream and I'm supposed to give a message to somebody. If I didn't, I would get sick. Wow. I would not, like I would get nauseous. My head would spin. I would have to lay down. But the moment I got it out, I'd be completely fine. So you had a lot of piramonatory dreams or? Yeah, like just, it's crazy. A like a vision or like a message like I can dream it while I'm asleep or sometimes while I'm awake. Like right now I'm looking at you and then something at a peer right beside you. I cannot control it. It just happens. Wow. But like sometimes like a movie screen, like a little box and I could see something play out. Sometimes it's an actual just a vision. Just as clear as you sit in there, you can sit right here. Wow. And I wouldn't speak it. When I won't say, like there's times when God shows me something, but it's not for me to say anything is just for me. To be aware of, yeah. To be aware of it. And when you feel like you're supposed to say it, you don't. Oh, I'm not well. Interesting. Yeah. So I feel like because I wasn't living my truth for so long, I had created this tab of the that I thought would win. Like I was suffocating through me so I couldn't breathe. Wow. And so the more and more layers I took off, the better I got. Why did you feel like you needed to put a mask on for either the industry or in or the relationships you were in or whatever might be? I know from a personal experience, I wore a mask to feel like I needed to fit in and feel safe for many years. Yeah. I grew up playing sports and in school and, you know, as a young adult, I felt like I needed to protect myself with a mask. But why did you wear masks? Oh, for many reasons. One, you know, from North Carolina, right, from the South. I grew up learning how to code switch and conform watch in my mama, right? So we go to the bank and she talking to, you know, the white lady that worked at the bank, but her voice is different. And I'm like, oh, is this how we talk? Interesting. Oh, okay. If my mama came to school and talked to teachers and, you know, all my teachers were white. In my town, it was only black and white. There was no in between. I didn't see like his spandex or any of that stuff until I grew up and became an adult. She would change her voice. So I learned very early, oh, this is how we have to talk to people who are not black. I didn't know that that was code switching back then. But it was like, oh, to be treated a certain way, to be respected, to be seen. That's what we have to do. And then growing up and working in corporate America, being told like, in a call center, people hearing my voice and, oh, are you black? I don't want to speak to somebody black. No way. Oh, absolutely. Oh, absolutely, honey. And so I would learn to mask it even more, to push it down even more. And then getting into entertainment here and, oh, you sound country, you're going to have to learn to cover that. So it became like, I'm doing it for, you know, just my normal school and work. I'm doing it for corporate America, now I'm doing it for entertainment. And then it came to like, oh, you can come to LA. I said, you know, have, my hair was all already natural, but they were like for your skin complexion straight ahead. Okay, certain size. Sound neutral, you should be the word I would always be giving. No accent. No accent. Be as neutral, no one should know where you're from. And I believe that. And so I created that tapeth to get jobs, right? The one thing that my mom and them, they named me tapeth. So my first job at Windix, I never forget, I put in the application, dropped it off and I got a call. And they were like, oh, we want to bring in for interview. And I said, okay, great. So I get there. And the assistant manager, when I walked up, clearly thought I was white from my name and I was sent it on the phone, right? So when she looked at me, I was like, I'm here for interviews. She's like, does somebody call you for interview? I was like, yes, ma'am. I said her name. And it was her. And she was like, I'll be right back. End of getting a job because the actual store manager had came. His name was David. He was an older man who was great. He was like, oh, interview. And so he loved me and I worked there, you know, for a while. But my name always used to get me jobs crazy enough because people thought I was white. They want a black Sabbath as a round. It was like, it's a bewitch name. It was named from bewitch. That's where my mom named me from. So it was, it was conforming to survive. My ancestors had to do it to survive, right? And it was passed down. But we don't have to do that anymore. I love just as I am from Eden, North Carolina. And the very thing that I used to cover about myself is to think people love about me the most now. Wow. It's crazy. But I didn't know. I believed what I was sold. Somebody sold me a lie and I bought it. But now, honey, I returned it. You got all my money back. And that's what I'm with interest. Yeah. And I think it was more challenging in North Carolina, growing up, trying to succeed or get opportunities or more challenging in Los Angeles, Hollywood. Oh, definitely. Los Angeles. Oh, yeah. In the South, it's like, the thing about the South is expression of North Carolina. I love my, my, you know, North Carolina is the best place and where I mean, I love it. But it was always very clear. It wasn't hidden. You know, exactly who you talking to. Interesting. Right? Ain't no secret about it. Right? So, it's clear. But if I want you around a night, like it's very clear out here. It's Hollywood, honey. They hide the truth. You don't know that they don't really poo with you until after the fact, right? Or if you find it out in the email or you see it in the trays or whatever, you're like, oh, wait a minute. You acted like we was cool. But we really won't. You didn't really like me, you know? So, it's more hidden here. People be out here acting. Maybe we're in the askah. Yeah. But I said they want to do a project, but then they don't talk to you. Right. And you know what? I don't even care about that. Like, whatever's meant for me, I wholeheartedly in this season of my life. I truly know what God has for me. It is for me. And if it ain't, it ain't. Absolutely. Yeah. I was just saying this to my fiance Martha recently, actually. I was like, you know, I was telling her she got excited. I got a great audition recently for something. And she was really excited about the possibility. I go, you're going to get this if it's meant for you. And if it's an alignment with your truce and your future. And if you don't get it, it wasn't meant for you. It wasn't meant for you, huh? That's right. And you don't need to be upset about it or, you know, maybe you can have a little moment of like, oh, okay. This idea of, I wish I could have got it. But you don't want to go through years of stress on something that's not meant for you. That's right. That's right. Listen, when the thing is meant for you, there is nothing that will stop it. Like God has not even complicated. He's not. He's very clear. We complicate things. Right. When I head too much. Yeah, when I head too much, we overthinking it. Yeah. You know, we, you know, we'll get an opportunity. And before the opportunity is ours, we will play out every single thing on, oh, like I do this. And then I do this. And we ain't even got it yet. Let's see if it works out for us first. And then we can expand on it. What do you think is the true key to attracting and manifesting exactly what is meant for us in life? I think walking in your truth would do that, right? Showing up exactly who you are allows the things that belong to you to come, you know, because when we create a different person, as I did for myself, right, when you are pretending to be someone else, God can't bless who you're not. Ooh. He's going to bless who you are. Right. So why? Right. So if I am pretending to be somebody else, what are these blessings that I'm getting? Those aren't mine. That's something I created. But when I just meet me, I can get everything he has for me. And the interesting thing, you see people who are blessed for being someone they're not. They're usually depressed, anxious, stressed, or it's never enough. It's never good enough because they still aren't good enough. They're not being who they're meant to be. They're always chasing something else. Exactly. And that's almost a greater challenge. It's like you're being blessed, but you don't feel enough. Right. You have everything, but you feel worthless. Or empty. Hampties. No peace. No peace. Yeah. And that's the freedom. And being true to who you are, it's the best gift you can give to yourself. How can someone know what their truth is when they've been wearing a mask for so long? Oh, honey. We all, I feel like we know our truth, right? If your truth is in your silence, or no one else is around, right? It's the things that you say to yourself. It's the things that you do, like childhood memories before you were taught that you weren't enough, and before you believed it, right? That's your truth. Sometimes we have to go back to our childlike thoughts because as children we're free. We're born knowing what we're supposed to do, but we're taught how to have fear. We're taught no, we're taught yes, right? We're taught how to speak all the things, but we're also influenced by our parents, by our friends and peers and different things. Sometimes unintentionally, it just naturally happens in your influence. But what your truth is, how you feel when you're alone, the things that you used to enjoy doing as a kid that nobody had to tell you to do. That's your truth, right? Sometimes that's also your passion and purpose. We have to go back to that before we were taught, oh no, you can't have that dream. Oh no, you can't do that because they don't make money. You should do this X, Y, and Z. You go back to what did you use to love to play when you were a kid? Did you love to play office? Did you love to play sports? Did you love to play? Did you take care of dolls and treat them like you were a doctor? I mean, you could have done it. You could have done it. You could have done it. You could have done it. You could have done it. You could have done it. You could have done it. You could have done it. You could have done it. You could have done it. You could have done it. You could have done it. You could have done it. You could have done it. You could have done it. You could have done it. You could have done it. You could have done it. to me. You know, those are your feelings, those are your things that still matter for you. But we have to tap back into it. Gotta get back to that. And when you were in that bathroom having that conversation with God, what was it again? You said it. If you heal me, you can have me. If you heal me, you can have me. That's powerful. And you said when you left that, something shifted inside of you. Yeah, I felt lighter. Interesting. I felt lighter and I just felt different. You know, it's hard to explain that. But every day from that day, it was just like, something is happening. I have this thing sometimes where I can walk outside and the air will feel different on my skin. And I know it's shifting this happening. Like, I know it's coming. I'm like, oh, something's about to happen. It's a weird thing. But I can feel it. I remember I used to work this job. So working the nine to five in L.A. And we had a warehouse and then we had office space. And so I would go because I was in charge of like shipping and coordinating. So I would go to where I was sometimes to take paperwork and then walk back to my office. There was a very long hallway. And this particular day, I had felt the wind shift. And so when I left the warehouse to come back down this long hallway, I, and I sometimes say, I do this, but I remember this day, I would close my eyes. And I wouldn't even care about where I was going. I would just walk with my eyes closed this long hallway. Because it was just I could just envision whatever the ship was. Like, God got something else for me. That's coming. And I remember a girl that works. She was coming on the bathroom. So she was like standing in the hallway. She was like, tabitha. She had her eyes closed, walked in. And it started me. She was like, you were just walking with your eyes closed. Oh girl, honey, sometimes, honey, I do that because I'm just seeing where he's taking me. You know, it's a it's a weird thing. I can't even, I can't explain like why I do some of the things. I do it. Also, I feel like it's part of the gift. Absolutely. You know, but but after I left the bathroom that day, it was about two or three weeks later, I had this dream. And then the dream I saw myself on a show, right? But the screen was small. And I've told this to me many times. And when I woke up, I was like, okay, Lord, reveal that to me. Because during this time, I'm not really auditioning. I'm not doing any acting. I wouldn't do a stand-up. I wouldn't do anything that would lay me on the show. Because I was not well. And I had a conversation with God. And he said, start doing videos. And I was like, I'm not doing no videos. And I'm an actress. I broke actress. But an actor, I'm a less. Not doing that show for me. I'm not doing that. But why would I do that? And also because, you know, as an actor, then we were always told when I would go to action classes and different things there, away from social media, they're going to take you serious and Hollywood. And I believed it. Okay. And so the voice was clear. Start doing videos. And I was like, Lord, I don't want to do videos. And he was like, listen, when you were out doing stand-up, you were trying to get a TV show. And I'm a little, you know, open-mic nights, you were getting 15, 30 people to see you a night. So I do videos. You reach thousands and minutes. And I was like, that's where I got you. Because I ain't got thousands of followers to reach in minutes. The voice again, start doing videos. So I was like, I don't want to do this. So then he reminded me. He said, remember in the bathroom, he said, if I heal you, I can have you. Oh, and I see it. Do you want to be healed? Or what about? I was like, oh, he caught me on a bad day today. But I'd be assaited. Did I really say that? Did I really say that? You know what I'm saying? I was saying that all day today. But that's the only reason I started doing videos. Wow. Right? So you heard the voice, it's that's starting to do videos. And you didn't have a big audience though. No, I had, you know, my Facebook, I had a, my regular Facebook family put, you know, three to five thousand people, whatever you're famous on Facebook. I might have had like, I don't know, 1,300 followers. It's not on my Facebook actor page. Small, small. Oh, it's small as you can get it in, you know, probably the same on Instagram. And I was like, right, I need to get thousands of followers to watch me thousands of minutes. What are you talking about? And I was like, okay, but I also was trying to live a life of obedience. So I was like, okay, I got to start doing these videos. And then I was like, Lord, what am I going to do a video about? This Ramadan, the first plate isn't for you. It's passed across the table. 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I was getting everything they offered me. If anything was probably making me worse, nothing worked. 10 days of implants had a disappeared. So I told my husband, I was like, I think this is going to be my life. I think I'm going to go vegan. The moment I said that out of my mouth, on that day 30, I was like, I'm not going to go back. I think I'm going to be vegan. The same boys said, told me, so I'm doing videos like a hummingbird with fly by your ear. That's how I can explain it. That's how it sounds. I was like, and how I tell people what you're eating your videos. I said, oh, Lord, I don't know if I want to do that because that makes it permanent. I'm from North Carolina. I'm doing a challenge. You're right. I'm doing for real just my life. I'm a vegan. I never wanted people to feel like I was trying to shame anybody or anything. I was just like, oh, no, I had also shaved off all my hair at the time because my hair was always longer straight. I was just doing a whole new transformation. I was like, okay, I just start telling people, I'm going vegan. When I find food items, I'm going to share it with y'all, I'm going to cook some recipes and share it when I find vegan food. That's how I started. Nobody was watching. I was like, it's 33 people on here, Lord, while I'm cooking live, you said thousands in minutes. Where are they? I would cry because I'd be like, I don't know where God has been doing this. I don't know what I'm doing. That was August of 2017. I think by October, I started. I was feeling so much better. I started driving Uber because I didn't go back to work. I've been on disability for over a year and so I told my husband I was like, I was like, I don't want to go back to a 9-5. I'm going to just see what God got out here for me. I'm in LA. I'm a drive Uber. Probably pick up a producer director. They're going to love me. I call you from that's how I think. I'm going to get discovered in my car. I'm in LA. In December 30th of 2017, I dropped somebody off by Whole Foods driving Uber that morning. When it there and got me a breakfast sandwich because I was still vegan, new to being vegan. Whole Foods always got a vegan option. I was like, I'm going to get a new breakfast. I had never heard of vegan bacon at that time. They had a sandwich in the prepared food section. It was called a TLTA. It was like 10-B bacon and lettuce tomato avocado. I was like, oh, I ain't never heard of that. Throw me a little pickle on there. I ain't even a little onion. It's the 8th of first half so fast. I was like, oh wait, I need to do a video to tell people I found a new vegan option. Sad in my car because I was on my Uber break. Did a video post it. Went on back to driving Uber. By the time I got home that video had like 50,000 views. I was like, wow. Who watching this video? Next one over 100,000. I was like, I saw a buzz. I said, I think I'm going viral. He was like, what that mean? I was like, I don't know. Exactly. He was like, you can make it in the mind. I was like, I have no idea. Four days later, Whole Foods reached out and they were like, we saw your video on Facebook. They DM me. They were like, we love to work with you. Came there, Brand Ambassador for Plant Based Living. It did over 15 campaigns and the best to test your out. I ain't a drunk Uber since, but I will if I have to, but I haven't. And my life has been on this journey. That's amazing. So December 2017. December 30 of 2017. And you started making videos a couple months prior. August. Wow. Isn't interesting. What if after like a month of doing these videos, you just said, you know what? This isn't working. I'm not getting thousands of views right away. So I'm going to stop. Yeah. What do you think your life would be if you stopped that day before you post that video? You just said, I don't do this anymore. It's not working right away. You know, God said it would happen right away. It's not happening. I'm going to stop. Where do you think your life would be? I'll probably be working. You know, still auditioning, but I'd be working in a nine-to-five. Yeah. I still be pursuing the dream of acting. And the thing about acting is, and I told you, before that, it used to be my only focus. Right? I had put myself in this box where all I thought about was like, oh, I want this series regular. Or, you know, of course, I would love to be, you know, the lead in a film. Those were my big break ideas. And God was like, you can do that. You can do that to happen. You can do that. But let me show you what I can do. Wow. This is what he can do. This is my fork book by my third New York Times bestseller. I never ever even had an idea to write a book. Wow. Right? I have seasonings. I have a haircare line. I have a major partnership with Target. I have my own food, my own clothes, my own furniture. Right? I have all these things that I never imagined. And that's because God says, it's more than what you can imagine if you trust me. And so I do. Wow. This is inspiring. This is inspiring. Yeah. If someone is feeling maybe not like in a complete depression or completely sick or completely out of it, but they just know there's something more for them. Maybe their relationships are where they want them to be or maybe their career is just off a little bit. Or they just feel like, I just don't feel like the fire inside of me is driving me to where I need to be. You talk about 30 days to living free. What's the first few steps someone can take in starting to live free to get that alignment back inside of them? Yeah. It's so funny because this is why I started this challenge. Right? This is a challenge that I started in 2014 because I was trying to, because when you're describing this feeling stuck, right? It's like you know there's something else, but you don't know what it is. We get in such a routine that we forget we haven't done anything outside of our routine for so long. So I always say start with doing something new. It can be as simple as driving a different way to work or a different way to a friend's house, whatever, or walking a different way. Just so that your eyes can see something it's never seen before. Something new that shifts the brain. Right? Like even wearing something you normally don't wear. Like for me, I always tell people if you wear black all the time, throw some color on. I got to throw some color on. Right. Like for me, I don't like wearing black, but I've been on this and I was like, you got a little color on it. It's cool. I'm doing a new thing. Right? And so it's little things even trying a new food. You know, going to a dinner or lunch by yourself. You know, I mean, people are afraid to eat alone. Climb off. Doing things that challenge you that will open up a new space inside of you. That's what doing a new thing does for us. And that's how we start to think, oh, okay. And then going back to like, what is your dream? Like what's the thing that won't let you rest? And I talked about this recently, because people sometimes they get confused by a dream versus a goal. Goals are things that we create. Dreams are deposited inside of us. Let's go. We don't make them up. They live there. That's why we can't rest because they constantly nagging us. A goal you can be like, I ain't make that goal. Or I did it, Chad. But the dream won't let you rest. Even when you, even when you manifest it and it comes, it still is persistent. There's more to do until we are getting, you know, called home. The dream is just it lives inside of us. Yes. It's it's born inside of us. So I always say do one small thing every day towards your dream. Even if you're stuck in the nine to five job or in a relationship that, you know, or business, whatever the case is, it makes you feel like, oh, I don't have time to do something towards me, right? Which we all are worthy of doing something towards ourselves every day. Yes. Do one small thing, whether it's reading something that can help open up, you know, an idea in your mind to help you get closer to your dream, whether it's watching a movie or a TV show or listening to a podcast that can help inspire or open up something in your mind. Something small every day. One little thing. There's a lot of people that like that want to be, they want to achieve their dreams or be successful so quickly, you know, if they haven't made it by 27, it's like they're a failure. I don't know who put that time frame on us. Well, Lord, you, you know, you started to really gain traction in your late 30s or early 40s, right? Yes. What was the biggest lesson for you for, I guess, having success later in your 30s and early 40s versus in 20s? Where did you learn about yourself? I learned that I wasn't at Reddy when I thought I was. I wouldn't have had none of the show for it, right? I needed to do, as my dad would say, keep on living. I needed to do more living before it came so that I could, A, know how to pray for it, right? Because a lot of times I used to pray, pray, pray for all these things to happen. Oh, God, I want my dreams to come true and, you know, I'm fasting, I'm praying on it, but I was never praying God when I get it, prepare me to keep it. Let's go. This is the biggest challenge for a lot of people. I'm so glad you says because early on, I was probably 20, 526. I remember being broke living on my sister's couch for a year and a half. No money. Yeah. I had a mentor at the time that I was working for for free, learning from him. And I was like, man, I'm really struggling. I could really use some money right now. He said, money comes to you when you're ready for it. I was like, I feel pretty ready. I feel ready for this. But he's like, I'll come to you when you're ready for it. Otherwise, if you get it too early, you'll probably lose it. Yeah. And I think it's similar to having a dream, like if you're not prepared for success or prepared for the pressures that might come with it. You might cause, you might sabotage it. You might lose it. You might squander it. You might not be ready for all of the responsibility, the weight that potentially could come with it, right? That's right. So you don't feel like he would have been ready for it in your 20s or 30s. Oh, absolutely not. I wasn't ready for everything I was going to gain. I also wasn't ready for everything I was going to lose. What did you lose? Friendships, relationships, right? Things that, people that I thought I would have in my life forever. And when I started walking in my freedom, they started to disappear. But God revealed to me, He said, everybody's not ready to walk in their freedom. So being close to you while you're in yours is disturbing their spirit. Oh, and I couldn't allow that to affect me in a way that I know it would have affected me in my 20s or early 30s. Oh my gosh. But in this 45, I'm all right with it. I love them, but I'll understand you 45 feeling alive. Right. Yeah. Wow. So man, I can resonate with that because you know, on my teens or my early 20s, there were certain relationships that I had formed that made me feel good and safe. Right. Yep. And I remember losing relationships almost every few years. Yeah. And I would be really sad that I was losing these relationships that people want to call me back or that they want to hang out anymore. Yeah. But I also know that I was in such a pursuit of my mission and pursuing things that later I found out that some of my friends told me like it scared them, right? Because I was pursuing certain things and they weren't pursuing the things they wanted. Yeah. So I felt really hurt that they didn't want to hang out anymore. But it also kind of set me free to have more time for mentors or people that were wiser or older than me who I can learn from and build relationships with them to give me counsel. Yes. And to kind of guide me forward. That's right. And that's one of the most challenging things. I think it's leaving the friend tribe. Yeah. When you want to bring people with you. But they may not be ready. Everybody can go. They can't all go. Everybody can't go. You know, I feel like a lot of times we feel bad because we, especially when you love people, I love people. I'm a people lover. You're a loyal person. You always want to turn around and bring them back. And God revealed one day to me. He said, listen, everyone who you need to bring along, you don't have to turn around to get them. He said, because when you turn around, that's when you get distracted from it. You gotta keep your eye forward. The moment you do this, you might have just crashed. He said that people were supposed to come. Oh, you got to do this go like this. You never got to turn around. They right there. They right there. It's just like a hand off baton. You watch a marathon. They never turn around to reach for it. They just right here. Right. So the ones who was supposed to come with you, you don't have to turn around and go get them. So you've been married for 20 plus years. Right? Yep. How has that worked with your relationship and marriage, you know, with your husband? Have you? Did you have struggle when you started to step into your authentic self because you became a different person? Maybe you became the person you always were. Right? Was there ever challenges in your marriage or relationship as you started to thrive? Or was there alignment right away and just like everything was perfect? Oh, honey, listen, my husband was so happy. He was like, finally, the world get to see who I know. Wow. Yeah. I mean, for years, he hated the industry of Hollywood because he saw how it changed me. He would always say, well, you can't just be you. He would, I mean, it would be all the time. Why you can't just be tailed? You know, the same tab that talked to your daddy. And I'd like, that ain't what they want. I've got to be this tab. Those were the arguments and all the nose I would get and all the hard work I would be studying and going to class and he's like, you doing all of this and they still don't like you. So he hated the industry for a long time. So when I became free and started walking in my freedom walk, he was like, now the world gets to see who I love. And how it's like, you was kind of right about it. I guess all along. You's probably like that. But no, it actually has made our relationship better and stronger. That's great. Yeah. I think Jim Carrey had a quote, I'm going to paraphrase it where he said like his father got fired from a career that he didn't love. And then he wasn't his main thing he wanted to do. He always wanted to be a comedian, but he never pursued the dream. And he said something like his, you know, you can get fired at what you're, you don't love for what you're not good at. Siu Miles will go after what you do love. Yes. You know, it's kind of like you. It's like, people weren't choosing you for who you weren't. Siu Miles will be who you want to be. Exactly. Yeah. And get not chosen for who you are. Exactly. 100%. You're something you brought up earlier about the walking in the hallway, closing your eyes. It reminded me of the Helen Keller quote, I'm paraphrasing where she said something like a lot of people have sight, but no vision. And you were like able to close your eyes and visualize, you know, literally walking and not hitting the walls, but also visualizing the dream that you had for yourself in those moments. Absolutely. You're able to vision. A lot of us are seeing, but we don't have vision. Right. What do you think is blocking us from having true vision? I think a lack of faith. Right? Because faith is, you know, believing things unseen. Right? So I think that, you know, but what is the word is walked by faith and out by sight. And so I have faith in the things I feel, the things that I believe I have faith that they're going to work. Even if you haven't seen them yet. Even if I haven't seen them. Right? I've never seen God's faith. But I believe. Right? I've heard a voice. I believe I have faith in the visions that he has shown me in my dreams or while I'm awake. I have faith in those things. I believe in confirmation. Right? I remember people you asked me and still asked me often, how did you keep going after all the time it took you over 20 years to get to success? Like, on the moments where you, you know, felt like giving up, like what were the things that kept you going? And I always tell people, I would look at the signs of confirmation. Right? I remember I used to work in a staffing company in Greensboro, in North Carolina. And I was on my lunch break, went through a drive-through and look at when I got to the drive-through to pay. He was like, hey, I was like, hey, he was like, aren't you the lady on the show? Aren't you on the Nickelodeon or something like that? I was like, oh no, I work at selective staff in the awful high point road. He was like, okay, I was like, okay, he was like, no, don't you have this show with the kids? I was like, I don't know what you're talking about, I must look like somebody. And I remember thinking like, huh, why did he say that, you know, back then and God spoke to my spirit and said, because he can see your destiny. So little moments like that were confirmed. And we're talking 2003, 2004 when that happened. I just want to end me for my children's show. Because I didn't even dream of having all 20 years later. I never thought I was going to have a children's show. It was confirmation. So if we pay attention to the little signs, I remember thinking like, I used to work at a nursing home assistant living home and we had to wear our uniforms, like khaki pants and polo shirts. And I worked the night shift. And it was hard. It was hard. This was like 2010. And I remember I would take breaks and you know, go to the bathroom, put water on my face because overnight you were going to 11 at night to 7 in the morning. I'm trying to stay awake. And I would just stare at myself in the mirror. And some days I would just cry. I would be like, I can, I look at myself and put a flash. I would see myself on a red carpet. And I would be like, I'm clearly in khakis and a blue polo. But for a quick second, I could see, I could see myself. I said, something is coming. You know, it just give me this boost. I would just get excited. I would get so excited. And I know from being there, so many things happen. Very supernatural things. And I used to be like, I want it because I kept getting drawn to go work at a nursing home. My mother was a hospice worker. She was a social worker. But as a kid, she always taught me to respect our elders and just understand how much wisdom they hold, right? And so I would read to them when I was a kid. So I just, she passed away. I had this urge to go work at a nursing home. And specifically the night shift, which was crazy, right? So all these supernatural things would happen when I was there. And I feel like God had me there because when they all make a show about it, right? Also because seniors and elderly people are the best people in the world. They are the funniest. They don't care. There's no more fear. They don't care about what you think about them. They've seen it all, done it all, right? And so sometimes I think the flash that I saw of myself on these red carpets and lights and stuff, maybe it's because I'll do a show, I'll create a show about my experience there. And then I'll win, maybe some awards or something, but I don't know. But little things like that were always signs for me. So I always tell people, look for your signs. Sometimes you can be, I don't know, you know, talk to a friend that you have a certain relationship with, but you don't tell them your dreams. But they may say to you one day just out of nowhere. You ever thought about doing such and such. And it's the thing that lives inside of you. That's your sign. You never told them that. How do they, how do they say that? That's your sign. That's confirmation. 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It's hard to be obedient sometimes because sometimes we want to be in control. You know that feeling you get under that gut feeling as we call it. I call that the gift under the sun. That's what I say good stands for. Because we all got it. That's obedience obeying that. Like when something is happening, you got to make a decision. You got to be obedient. Sometimes it's not that thing you sacrifice to do. Sometimes it's the thing that you have to be obedient and do so that you can go to the next place. Because I think that we all have a certain amount of grace God gives us all. But I feel like we can get at a road that has a left and a right. Sacrifices to the left, obedience is to the right. He also gives us the grace to make a decision. One turn might get us there quicker. Blessings may feel better. The other turn may be a whole different uncomfortable ride. Really? Right. So obedience is better than sacrifice. Where was the time in your life where you sacrificed as opposed to where obedience and what happened for you? So many times. I mean about 20 years I was living a lot of sacrifice. How does it look different for someone when they do something based on making us sacrifice? Maybe they think they're supposed to do this versus being obedient. I think sometimes we can say some people, you know how you may want to start a business, right? And so you may sell your house. But something inside you feels like this is not right. Does you make the sacrifice in you doing it anyway? Business fails. You ignore the obedience. You ignore the thing that said don't do it that way. Because you thought you were in control and that your way, your idea was better. Right. And sometimes it's hard to decipher like is this my thinking or is this the gift? Is this this guy speaking to me? Is this the thing that lives inside of me? Right. And so I always say like if you can come up with the idea and you can write it down and you know it's great you can kind of come back to it. But you can also kind of forget about it a little bit that's you thinking. But if he's giving it to you, it's not going to let you rest. It's going to keep on nagging and also signs will come to confirm it. And like I said before, he ain't complicated. It's a little bit easier sometimes. Sometimes there's roadblocks. Because now there are roadblocks sometimes but if we read the sign on the roadblock, it may not be a roadblock. It may just be okay, there's a little bump here, but read the sign. You can still go this way. It's just going to be a little bit harder. Reward will be greater later. But we just got to make sure we know which which way we're going. Wow. And so I've done that many times. But every time I've went against that thing, I get burned every time. Really? Oh, every time. Something doesn't work out. It just doesn't. I remember this happened recently. I had an opportunity to go in business with somebody to do a restaurant. And I absolutely love my business partner. His name is Neymann Love. He has a restaurant in Chicago that I fell in love with. He'll my name. And so he was like, I want to open one in LA. I was like, I'll be your business partner. I never did restaurant business. I did food. But I never did restaurant business. I didn't know of this stuff, right? But I was like, I know I can get people to come type of thing. And so I invested and did it. A lot of things happened with this building. A lot of things happened that we couldn't keep the business open. Right? And so while we were in the process of before we ever open, I kept coming in. I was like, I don't know, I got a feeling. Maybe this is not the right location. And he kept saying, oh, no, no, no, I know it is. And he had his reasons. He had his own reasons. And so I said, okay, we'll go with it. And my prayer was God, if it's not meant to be, don't let it last. And it quick. And baby in the end, it quick. It was grand opening, grand closing. That's how it felt. Yeah. But I had so much peace with it. Because I knew I was like, I want to get to the, the guy, but he's still doing amazing and successful with his restaurant in Chicago. That's right. And it's almost, you know, the greatest blessing had, you went against your obedience. But it ended quickly. It didn't go on for five years of misery. Right. Like at least it ended within a year or something. And it was, okay, I want to lost a little bit. It didn't work out. It didn't take all my time and energy. Yeah. As opposed to years where some people are disobedient and they stay in a relationship for 20 years too long. Oh, honey. Yeah. Or they stay in a business because they have pride. Well, I started this and I want to make sure it doesn't fail. Yeah. And they go against obedience and they suffer more. Yeah. And then the hope is that when you come out of it, that you learned, right? Because I definitely learned to me. It was like God is saying, okay, never remember. I've already shown you this. Yeah. Don't do it again. Don't do it again. Or it might be more painful. You know what it's like. Exactly. So yeah, it might be more painful. Yeah. How did you know you were prepared and ready for the pressure and the weight of the success that came your way or the abundance started coming your way, you know, five, six years ago? I think because I didn't necessarily know I was necessarily ready. But I felt normal. If it makes sense. You know, my husband used to say, he talks about this sometime for, you know, we've been together for 26 years this year. So he's been with me since I've been pursuing acting and all that stuff and entertainment. And when we first moved to LA, it didn't matter what I auditioned for. This is it. I will come on. Like, this is going to be it. Honey, I know this is the role that's going to take me here. It could have been a short film. It could have been a commercial. Whatever it was was always the thing. And I will come on just overly excited. Like, oh, I can't wait. We're going to win the field. That's like I would just be all over the place excited. And that one opened years, right? This stuff started happening. In the last, we'll say the last, you know, five years, but about three years ago, 2020 things really just went crazy. So much was happening. I mean, campaigns, money, brand deals, products, everything. And I was very calm. Very grateful. Always in the state of gratitude, very calm. Some husband came to me and said, Hey, listen, I'm a little concerned. I said, why was going on? He was like, so for years, when you was doing the act of thing and everything, you were not making money. We were struggling. You would be so excited, so, so excited about how this is it. This is it. And it wasn't it. He said, now, this is it. And you're not excited. Excited the same way. And I said, Oh, I said, Oh, I get it now. I said, because back then, my flesh was excited. And I was all over the place. But my spirit was like, Girl, no, no, no, you got to keep on going. This ain't it. This, this not it. I said, when now my spirit and flesh, we are in alignment. So this feels like home. It feels normal. Yeah, your nervous system is safer. It's safe. It feels like, Oh, I feel balanced. I was out of balance before because I won't in alignment. I said, so now, I can be in a full state of gratitude. I cry a lot because I'm so happy. But I'm not all over the place. I was like, so now I know this is what God had prepared me for. So I feel at peace. And so it gives me when we're at peace and we have a understanding that I'm doing what God has has planned for me and has purposed me to do. I know I'm ready for it. Wow. Yeah. Also don't have a problem saying no. That's how you really know when you're ready. Yeah. When someone's trying to give you money and say, I'm good. God bless you. I'm all right. That's big. That's a big move. Yeah. That's like, yeah. Or be the answer to the high level. Yeah. Cause I said no to a whole lot of things in the beginning of this journey before money started coming in. And it was money. Good money. And I was like, that's not an alignment where God has taken me. I gotta say, I gotta pass on it. And that's how I knew that I really was living and believing what God has for me is for me. Because I've been like, we need that money. But I don't, I'm not going to sacrifice. I'm going to have to deal with it. Yeah. That's so good. Because, you know, we've been doing this show for 11 years. We've never taken, I've never been drunk in my life or high. I don't just don't do drugs or anything. And we've had different, you know, gambling companies or alcohol companies, always wanted to sponsor. And I just said no to all of it. And they've got big money. Yeah. Like, okay, that money could be nice. And I can hire more people and do these things. But if it's not an alignment with me, it just doesn't feel right. Not saying that other people shouldn't take that. Right. You can be for somebody. That's somebody else's blessing. Exactly. It's not for you. That's right. And I feel like I feel good, even though I haven't taken that type of money or those opportunities. And I feel like it's growing in the way that I want to grow. You know, I don't need those things. I feel that's really hard for people to say no when it's out of alignment. Yeah. And so that's, that's challenging to do. Yeah. It is when you, you have to get to a place where you can do that. But I also understand desperation. Yeah. Yeah. You might have to take stuff. Sometimes, yeah, I mean, back in the day, I, some of the movies and stuff I've done from way back, I'd be like, Oh, Lord. But I was like, I got paid $500 to do that or $5,000. And that 5,000 was the only money I made for six months. Right. So I'm grateful for all of it though. Because it's my story. Yes. You know, I did scripts that were terrible. And, you know, I thought we're funny. And now I'm like, Oh, God, it was not funny. You know, just learning. But that's, that's my, that's my story to tell. Yes. You know, and that's also can help inspire somebody else that is in that season in their life. One hour percent. We all go through different seasons. Yeah. What have you learned about the keys to having a healthy relationship and successful marriage? When you didn't have the success, the fame, the notoriety, you know, for the first, I guess, 15 years, to now having more of that, what have you learned as one person in the relationship, you know, gets more famous and successful and financially well off. What, what have you learned or what advice were to give others in relationships? For us, it's always been we all we got. Right. You know, the saying don't believe the hype. I live by that. Don't believe the hype. My husband, we are our foundation. That's where it begins. It's God first. And then us. Right. The inner children and all the things. But together, we can do everything together. You know, my husband was, we moved to LA and so that I could pursue my dreams. For 15 years, he was a Los Angeles police officer. He was like, I can go get this job and we can at least have one solid income that hasn't been a fit. You know, because we had kids and you could pursue your dream. And never have to get, you know, a career like a job job. Although, I always had a job, but I'm going to have a job for a year or two and then quit or, you know, whatever. So, he sacrificed, right? He did that. And I used to tell him, five years I'm going to blow up out here in LA and I'm going to take you out of there. He'd be like, don't, I don't care about that. I just want to, I'm fine. Pursue your dream. Pursue your dream, right? We did that together. And so, it didn't happen in five years, but after 15 years, I was like, listen, this doesn't even make sense for you to be working no more. Please retire. Like, from LAPD and do something that you want to do, you know, something else. So, being together and never letting the noise in, like people start believing the hype. I am Tabitha Brown only because I carried my husband's last name, right? So, I am a, a wife first. Like, that's, that's what it is. Like, me and my husband, that's it. Everything else is added on. That's all. It's just work is work. But we never let it. I don't know how to explain it. I think that people, sometimes they forget that marriage should be first. You know, and for me, it's family first. It's going to always be that my career is my bonus that I get to live. Right? That all the other things is the bonus. My dream got gave me. I also feel like my husband was part of my dream. Right? That's part of who I am. Like, this is who he chose for me. Right. Right? To do this life with. What's his name? Chance. Chance. What's the thing you love about Chance the most? Honey, he makes me feel safe. But Chance is not going to do nothing that Chance don't want to do. You'd be like, hey, you want to go to, nope, not doing that. Like, it's just, some days it gets on my nerves. But it's also admirable. Like, oh, you're not easily influenced. It's authentic. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I guess I've a marriage. You got to have to do certain things. You don't want to do all the time. Let me tell you now. It's many days though. He get on my nerves with that. I'd be like, you know, what I can't stand at about you. And in other days, like, I loved it about you. But I think another thing is he's a phenomenal father. I've been able to witness my husband in all stages of his life. Right? Yeah. We grew up together. We've known each other pretty much our whole life since we were 10. And so I've seen him as a boy. I've seen him as a young man. And now, you know, a man, man, you know, in this 45. And it's been an honor to watch him evolve and grow. And mature. But fatherhood has been one of the best things to witness. That's beautiful. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Chance the man. You know, you talk about fears a lot in the book. I did a new thing. What do you think was the biggest fear when you were not fully obedient or fully living the most authentic life that that was meant for you? And what is the biggest fear now? Stepping into owning you 100%. I think the biggest fear before was, you know, dying with this thing inside of me, like never letting it be seen. Right? Fear now doesn't necessarily live with me as much. I don't know if I have a, a necessary, like I don't, I don't know if I have a fear. I want to I want to change people, right? I want to, I want to affect them in the best way possible, right? And sometimes trying to spread love and positivity, people don't want to buy into that sometimes. Why is that? I think misery loves company. You know, and sometimes happiness scares people. You know, you can have people that everything's going great and they'll be like, I know something bad is going to happen. Why? We alive to go through it either way. You know, so I think sometimes I, I don't necessarily fear it, but I am concerned. Am I doing enough with spreading love and trying to reach people? Am I doing it the right way? Even though I feel and peace about it, I always, you know, I mean, pray like God is this really, but you want me to do. I want to make sure I'm, I'm not ever being triggered to get back into being in control. Because, you know, healing is a journey. And so sometimes we can be triggered to going back to our old things and my old thing is being, I'm in control instead of no, no, I'm letting God be in control and I'm walking. And I never want to go back. 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Yeah, and when nothing seems to be lining up, oh, tab, you're trying to do this. Step back. Step back and let's let's look at every piece of the puzzle and make sure you're not trying to create the puzzle, create the pieces and put it all together. Sit back and let God do what God does. We still have to do our part because faith without work is day it, right? But still you got to let him orchestrate. Yeah. More. Yeah. What do you feel like will be the thing that holds you back the most moving forward? Besides being in trying to be in control or not be obedient. Is there anything else you don't have the fears anymore? What are you preparing for? Like with the abundance coming your way, what are you preparing for to make sure you don't get in your own way? I think just staying true to who I am, right? I don't fear, I don't fear or project negative, right? I'm not preparing for negative. I'm expecting the unexpected, right? Which I'm always in my mind thinking of God seeing is more than what I can imagine, right? That's greatness. That's what I'm looking forward to. I don't look forward to cloudy days, although I know they will come. But they're not, it's not something I'm like, oh, I'm planning for a bad day. No, I'm planning for all good days. I'm I am being mindful and intentional with joy, right? So I don't think and listen, that may be the thing that holds me back. And if it does, then we'll cross that bridge and we get to it. But I don't plan on allowing anything to shift me outside of the position God has put me in. I think that I trust God, I believe that he has me on this journey. And I'm all right with whatever come my way. There you go. That's the kind of how I feel about it. What do you think is the greatest lesson God has taught you? I was always enough. I didn't need to try to do his job. Because the thing about when you conform and when you try to, you know, create another person, that's me saying, God, you didn't do a good enough job on me. I had to fix me. But he taught me he did a great job. And I was enough just as he created me to be. Wow. This is inspiring. It's done. It's done with three books in the last four years. Yeah. Is that right? Three in the last four? Yeah. And a little journal, like a workbook journal. But yeah, it was keeping track. I know. This one's called I did a new thing by Tab at the Brown. You're never one new or time best thing author multiple new or time best thing author. This is all about the 30 days to living free. You talk about how to really create new habits and a framework around setting yourself up for freedom, stepping into your truth, overcoming your fears. I'm excited. I'm excited for people to get a copy of I did a new thing. What else are you most excited about these days that you're working on and how we can support and serve you? Yes. I know we were talking about it. I'm excited to get back into doing more acting. And I love that you know sometimes and this is important for somebody to hear. Somebody needs to be reminded of this. Sometimes we have a dream, right? But our journey to get to it doesn't always look like how we envision it. And so God took me on this whole different path that has led me back to be able to do the thing that I've been dreaming of. That's what I was thinking. And so more acting I just finished the film, television, you know doing things that really matter to me, making people laugh, sometimes making them cry, right? That's when we do as actors, making people feel that's it. Creating more products that people can use in everyday life, because I think that's the most important. And I know my I know my fan base. I know my as I call them my fan base, they my family. And you know feeding people good food, good recipes, but also feeding they soul with inspiration and staying true, right? And I'm expanding with my hair. I don't know if you know my hair. Her name is Donna. I name my hair. She twisted up right now. But and I normally have a big old Afro and her name is Donna. So I have Donna's recipe because I don't do desserts, but Donna she can give you desserts for your hair. So I have a sweet potato pie collection of hair products. It's at ultra beauty. Also at Target now. Nice. And we're expanding the line and doing more things to dance. So just trying to, you know, build an empire, but off of truth. I was just like you said, you never put your name on the you know alcohol because it's not an alignment. I'll never just throw my name on a product. Right. It's going to be something that you know, oh wait, that's definitely tab because this is how she went. So I'm just keep on doing things that that matter and that are, you know, real to me. That's beautiful. Yeah. I am tab with the brown on all of her social media, your TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, you know, YouTube is blown up as well. You got amazing recipes. Alexandra, she's vegan. She's holding. Yeah. And she was talking about how she wants to try one of your latest recipes. I think it was like a carrot bacon. Oh yeah. That's like that sounds incredible. So I'm going to have someone make it up and that was like one of my first viral videos on TikTok that took me through the roof in 2020. So I got to try that someday. Yeah. So people can get all your content on social media. I'm tab with the brown.com as well. But make sure to get the new book. I did a new thing. I've got a couple of questions for you, tap with the first one before I ask the final two questions. I want to acknowledge you, tap with the for the transformation you've made and for sharing your transformation. So publicly and the success that you've received by owning your truce. I think a lot of people wear masks in the world. I wore a mask for many years to protect myself to fit in to feel like I belonged all these different things because I was afraid. And we can only create so much success with a mask on. But I think we can create true fulfillment and greatness as our authentic selves. So I acknowledge you for leaning into that, listening to the voice and being obedient to what you felt was right for you. And the impact you've made by the continual actions you take and how you shop is just really inspiring. So I really acknowledge you for listening to the voice and taking action to be a service to so many people that watch and listen to you and read your books. So congrats on everything. Thank you, today. Of course. This question is called the Three Truths. So it's a hypothetical scenario. Imagine you get to live from this moment for as many years as you want to live, but it's eventually your last day on this earth. Okay. And in this hypothetical scenario, you get to create all of your dreams. They all come true. You live the life you envision and you you know, you have unexpected things that come to your life as well that are beautiful. But it's the last day. And for whatever reason on this last day, you have to take all of your work with you. So no one has access to this book anymore, this interview and anything you create for whatever reason, it's got to go with you. Okay. But you get to leave behind three lessons to the world. And this is all we would have to remember you buy. I call it the Three Truths. What would be those Three Truths for you? Oh, live free. Spread love. And eat well. I like it. Simple and powerful. Final question, Tabitha, what is your definition of greatness? Definition of greatness is it's freedom, right? Being completely free in your world and in everybody else's. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. 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