Becky Lynch
80 min
•Aug 20, 202510 months agoSummary
Cody Rhodes interviews Becky Lynch on his podcast, discussing her wrestling career, acting roles in Star Trek and other projects, family life with husband Seth Rollins, and the balance between professional ambitions and personal fulfillment. The conversation covers her journey from Ireland to WWE stardom, her philosophy on being a heel wrestler, and reflections on mentorship and personal growth.
Insights
- Elite wrestlers require high intellectual capacity to succeed; the stereotype of wrestlers being unintelligent is outdated and harmful to the industry's perception
- Being a heel (villain) in wrestling provides psychological freedom and less stress than being a babyface, as the role prioritizes making others look good rather than self-promotion
- Balancing a high-level career with family life is achievable for women in wrestling when they have supportive partners and intentional life design, though it requires constant negotiation of time and priorities
- Social media abstinence (limiting scrolling and engagement) correlates with measurably higher happiness and mental health, despite potential knowledge gaps about current events
- Mentorship from established industry figures (Hayes, Heyman, Mercury) provides foundational confidence that enables performers to navigate insecurity and career transitions
Trends
Wrestlers expanding into mainstream acting and streaming content as career diversification strategyShift toward authentic, improvisational promo delivery over scripted segments in modern wrestlingFemale wrestlers negotiating motherhood and career simultaneously, challenging historical industry limitationsIntellectual credibility becoming a competitive advantage in wrestling storytelling and character workMental health optimization through social media reduction gaining traction among high-profile athletesMentorship and institutional knowledge transfer becoming critical retention tool in wrestling talent developmentStar Trek and prestige television casting wrestlers as part of broader mainstream entertainment integration
Topics
Women in professional wrestling career longevityHeel vs. babyface wrestling psychology and performer stressActing and entertainment crossover for athletesSocial media impact on mental health and happinessMentorship in professional wrestlingWork-life balance for parents in demanding careersImprovisational promo delivery techniquesStar Trek franchise casting and productionWWE Evolution event and match performanceFamily dynamics and parenting while travelingPersonal branding and mystique in social media eraBus driver culture and road crew relationshipsDinner party culture and social connectionIntellectual credibility in wrestlingCareer transitions and reinvention
Companies
WWE
Primary employer and context for Becky Lynch's wrestling career, Evolution event, and ongoing professional wrestling ...
Fanatics
Co-producer of the podcast 'What Do You Wanna Talk About' with Cody Rhodes
Shopify
E-commerce platform sponsor offering commerce solutions for entrepreneurs
Wheatley American Vodka
Beverage sponsor featured throughout podcast with cocktail preparation and branding integration
Z-Biotics
Pre-alcohol probiotic drink sponsor designed to reduce hangover symptoms
Factor
Meal delivery service sponsor offering chef-crafted, dietitian-approved meals
Paramount+
Streaming platform home to Star Trek series where Becky Lynch is appearing
People
Becky Lynch
Guest on podcast; seven-time world champion discussing career, family, and entertainment projects
Cody Rhodes
Podcast host and interviewer; discusses mentorship, career philosophy, and personal experiences
Seth Rollins
Becky Lynch's husband; discussed as supportive partner and 'wife guy' in wrestling community
Kevin Owens
Recent podcast guest; discussed for candid interview and banter with Cody Rhodes
Dusty Rhodes
Cody's father; mentioned for his mentorship of Becky Lynch and last words to her
Paul Heyman
Identified as 'Super Genius' who advised Cody on improvisational promo delivery
Joey Mercury
Provided foundational career advice to Cody about self-belief and star presence in the ring
Alex Kurtzman
Star Trek series producer and writer; described as intellectual genius by Becky Lynch
Paul Giamatti
Star Trek villain actor; worked opposite Becky Lynch on series
Holly Hunter
Star Trek series protagonist; Oscar-winning actress Becky Lynch worked with
Chris Hemsworth
Encountered by Becky Lynch at gym in Chicago; discussed Home and Away background
Patrick Stewart
Star Trek: The Next Generation captain; anecdote about protecting character integrity
Randy Orton
Discussed for catering incidents and Becky's first house show experience seeing him
Bianca Belair
Selected for Becky's hypothetical War Games team; praised for wrestling abilities
Sami Zayn
Known since 2006; included in Becky's hypothetical War Games team
Andy
Becky's tour bus driver; discussed for heroism during bus fire incident
Matt
Cody's tour bus driver; family band member; discussed for driver of year controversy
Carter Oosterhouse
Met Cody on flight; builds accessible playgrounds for underprivileged communities
Ricky Saints
Appeared on Cody's podcast; encouraged Cody to take fishing adventure
Quotes
"Trying too hard is just a confession that you don't trust yourself to be good enough."
Becky Lynch•From her book
"Don't ever let anybody convince you you're not the biggest star in the ring."
Joey Mercury•Career advice to Cody Rhodes
"If you're just said something dumb one time, that's not enough guys. Please come for me."
Becky Lynch•On cancel culture and enemies
"I feel like I'm better at knowing where to put other people's stuff. Which is a huge skill set in itself."
Becky Lynch•On being a heel wrestler
"That's it. That's life. You know? That's living. That's the whole purpose of the soul."
Becky Lynch•On family being the ultimate achievement
Full Transcript
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She's also won the Royal Rumble and she has the distinction of going on last and main eventing a WrestleMania. The man indeed. Welcome to what do you want to talk about? Becky Lynch. Oh! Thanks. Thanks, guys. Appreciate you. Thanks. Thanks for the clap. How do you feel? That's actually the first time they've clapped. Oh, really? Yes. So maybe we had a forced clap for someone recently where it was like, hey, KO. KO, I saw a clap on KO. Force clap though, because KO came in ready to roll. OK. And he was prime. He was ready for game day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, did you like it? I loved it. I loved it. I was laughing. What did you like? I want to ask, what did you like most? Because there's probably two hours left on the editing room floor where he went in. In. I want more. I didn't want it to end. Oh, that's nice. I want more. Yeah, I want all the juicy guy. Because there was no punches were pulled. He's talked about everything very candidly. It was fantastic. It was just a great chat. It was a great chat. Great banter. I love the banter. The banter was there. Yeah, the banter was great. Do you know that I told Kevin yesterday that I had two other brothers? Because he texted me. He goes, I want your brother's number. I said, chicken is what we call Dustin. And then he goes, do you have other brothers? I said, yeah, I have two. Lincoln and Jeff. And he bought in for about 15 minutes. You don't have other brothers. No, I don't have other brothers. I don't know. He bought in. And I was trying very quickly to find a photo of me and two men that I could send him. And be like, you've already met these guys. I couldn't keep the lie up. That's like a good Cody lie. I couldn't keep it up long enough. But I'm glad you enjoyed the pod with Kevin. It had to be edited a lot. But that was a very fun. You got to release the director's cut. Oh, maybe. You'd be the director, right? I mean, I don't think I'm really the director. I'm not in charge of this train. We got to release the director's cut. I want to hear more. I had this idea for, and I'm going to put this out into existence, I had this idea for if I set a milestone with the podcast. And I don't know what that milestone is, that I would do a bonus episode interviewing Stardust. Oh. I would do a bonus episode. I don't know what the milestone is, but I've started thinking, I don't know. Maybe we could lurse. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe that's the thing. But hey. That'd be amazing. Talking about you, how do you feel? Good. I feel great. Can I drink this drink? We'll tell us what you got first. Well, because it's just like looking at me. It's ready for you. I got the man's lemon drop martini. Wow. Yeah. A little bit of vodka, triple sec. Lemon juice. Lime? There's something here that says it all anyway. There was the yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. All right. But I think I got a little bit of it. It's Wheatley American vodka. I imagine it's good. Cheers. Cheers to you. I have the American mule per usual. Oh, that's dangerous. Is it? That is dangerous. Why is it dangerous? Do you want to try? Yeah, I wouldn't mind actually. Yeah, yeah, that's dangerous. Look at that. It's like, it just, it tastes like a lemonade. Oh yeah. Oh, you're going to go to the other side? Danger Will Robinson. Oh yeah, that's it right there. Yeah, yeah, never mind. What is social butterfly, by the way? Me. Yeah, Sharon drinks. Not everyone's that way, you know? I love, I love the socials. Is it, this is not at all the first thing I intended on asking you, but I'm going to. As a American from the southern part of America, my first experience overseas, one of the things I noticed was what I assumed was bar culture. Everyone wants to talk. Yeah. And if they knew you were American, they wanted to talk like politics and things. And I'm just private, but I've now every time noticed it's not really their fault, it's my fault. If I'm at the bar and there's, then I, this is what we do. We talk. We sell stories. We have the chat. Yeah. There's a chat. There is a chat. I love the chat. I love this chat. That's just a thing. It's just a social thing. Yeah. You know, I feel like we're losing it. We're losing it a lot. You know, like I remember when I first came over here and like I'd be flying around and I'd always just get into a chat with somebody in the airplane. Yes. Always on the airplane. And I loved it. Like little old ladies be telling me their life story and giving me all this advice. And we kind of lose that. We just put our headphones in. We do the scroll and things. Well, when you get on a flight, are you talking to the lady next to you? Are you starting? Sometimes. Sometimes. You know who I, the last chat I had was Carter Oosterhouse. Right? Is that how you pronounce his name? He's the guy who does like all the interior design stuff. Well, if not, we're sorry, but it was a good chat. It was a great chat. We love that. We just chatted the whole time. And it turns out he like builds playgrounds for like underprivileged stuff and like accessible playgrounds. And I happened to know a family that was looking for an accessible playground. And I was like, oh, can I send this stuff to the family? And then he was like, yeah, yeah, send them my number. And then that family has texted me and we're like, oh, we want to hear him and he's going to get this done. And so look at the things that can happen from like just a little bit of a chat. So I think I agree with that. Even though it was it was jarring for me, the value of it, of having that conversation, what can happen in one night? What's the worst that can happen? Is it's a short conversation and you move on. The best that can happen, you make a lifelong friend. You make a business connection. You learn something that you might have needed to learn in that moment. So I'm a big, I don't start a conversation, but this has happened to me rather recently, multiple times. Hey, can I sit next to you? Hey, if that starts, I'm in. Let's go. Let's go. And it often happens if you've got a baby picture on your phone, got questions, you know? Here we go. I'll unload. So I like the adventure. And this is my recently thing. This is, again, I didn't think we'd talk about it, but I just went fishing the other day. Oh, you fisher. So no. I am not a fisherman. No, a fisherman. I don't go fishing. But I chartered this boat that was out in the bay. It wasn't deep sea. It was just in the bay area by like Destin, Florida. And the boat was really small. And I thought, maybe we just pay this guy. And we don't do it. It's just like, there's nowhere to sit. We had a cooler. Maybe we don't. But a buddy of mine, he said, and he's been on this podcast, actually, he said, I think we should take the adventure. It was Ricky Saints. He said, what's an hour going to hurt? We were out there for almost five hours. And again, to the conversation, to the being social, I feel you got to go for it. Oh, adventure. Yeah, a little adventure. We're all in this together. When did you come to America? I was six. I was six when I first came over. My mom was a flight attendant. She brought us over on, it was a Christmas trip. So we came over. She was working the flight over and home. And then we got a few nights out here for Christmas. And it was in New York. Of course. Oh, man, it was so magical. It was so. And we went ice skating in Central Park. And for some reason in my head, we were ice skating. And the Statue of Liberty was there. But that didn't happen. It did. They blend. They blend. They had a legend. And then she would bring me over on little overnight here, there, and whenever. Love that. And then when I was 18, I moved off to Canada. And then I'd come and I'd wrestle around here. Right. Different spots. And then my visa ran out in Canada. And then I was trying to figure out ways to get back into America. So I decided I'd have a plan B for wrestling and also just have a way to get back into America. So I did a personal training course in Orlando. And so then I was there. But I'd given up wrestling at that stage because I was too old. Oh, yeah. I was 19. I was over the hill. Like, ah, the dream is a dead. I got to get a real job. And then I was just always scheming ways that I could get into this country. Yeah. Do you feel like you're still scheming? You're still coming up with schemes? In general? In life. Oh, in life? Yeah, 100%. What are the schemes like today? Schemes. Well, see, here's more what I'm asking. So you've done everything. Done a lot. I know there's always more, right? There's kind of individuals who have a world is not enough mindset. I feel very much I want. I'm trying to get everything. With everything you've done and the place you're at in your life, is there anything you can share or do as what's next, what you want? Is there a big brass ring? Is it something? Is it the unknown? Is it undiscovered country? What is it that you do? Is it more of this? Again, at the highest level, I just watched it and you walked on this bus and I was stoked to tell you how great that match was. Thanks. Better than anything I've done in months. So. So. I don't know. Everything, I suppose. Yeah. Look, I've been lucky enough to do a few acting projects recently. I've loved them. I have loved them. I've loved every second of it. And then when I go home, I find myself saying to Kobe all the time, Kobe said freaking Rollins. Like I'm like, where do I get off? You know, where do I get off being so like my family is amazing? I love that. My daughter is always, oh god, she's always asking for a little brother. She wants a little brother. Oh, well. So that's one of those things. You're like, oh, I'm really loving wrestling. I'm loving the acting roles that I'm getting kind of feel like momentum is on my side. And eventually, you know, and I would love, I would love another one. Got to kind of figure that out. And what, you know, she said, it was like the worst thing she could possibly say to me. She's like, when you're done working, when you make enough money, then can I have my little brother? Like, oh, that like, then you're like, oh. But the other thing, the other part of that is, no, I love working. I love working. I love what I do. Like I love coming out and having nights like tonight. I love just shot the pilot for movers. I loved every second of that. I love working and then I love coming home, looking after my little girl. And yeah, but growing the family would be also amazing. So it's one of those things. And I don't know if you ever feel like this. There's not enough time. You know what I mean? There's not enough time. No, there's not enough time. But I want to do it all. So I feel like for someone like you who is doing it for the right reasons, because we obviously know each other not just in this wrestling space. Like there's a different. You're doing this for the right reasons. I think you're one of the few who can have it all and somehow will make the time to have it all. And if you do this, if you do that, you'll be able to have it all. There's very few people who have that presence and balance. But I don't know what that is in terms of timing. And that's a conversation with your daughter that I'm very curious in terms of what's the response to little brother. At that age, just four or five. Yeah, what do you say? What do you say? Well, it always hits me in the gut. And she said it multiple times now. Because she keeps saying, when is my little brother going to get here? When is my little brother going to get here? When is my little brother? Do you get this at all? We're not getting when is a sibling arriving. We feel like we're starting to get a little bit of not happy with me leaving. Oh, yeah. Today we're in Atlanta. And she specifically told me not to bring Pharaoh. So now she doesn't want Pharaoh leaving either. So there's starting to be a bit of I'm getting used to this. You're here at night. We do our routine. And that is very difficult and in the gut. Because I know I'm probably going to be leaving more and more and more and more. So instead of just that happening, I'm wondering to myself, what's the conversation look like? Tell her I always come back. Often I say, hey, you know all these fun things we get to do. And hey, you know this great big girl room that you just got and all of this is reliant on what I do. But to a four-year-old, that doesn't make any sense. No. No, because they just want my dad here. Yes, they just want their people. And you could hit them with the most rational thing ever. And they're at the age where maybe, but their response is just the same thing said again. Like, OK, well, it didn't land. But we'll try again another time. I'm going to need to know one of these. Oh, yes. Wow. Thanks, Nebo Baby. Kyle, yeah. There are a lot of rumors about Kyle going around there. Lauren, Michael, son. You just came out with it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, there we go. The bartender is Lauren Michael son. For those who are watching the podcast a long time. Legend. What would we describe Kyle as? He obviously does more than make the drinks. He's a hardworking guy at WWE. But there is a rumor he is a Nebo Baby. And the rumor going around today is that he's Lauren Michael son. We have no evidence of this. But it's going. Yeah, we're just going to go with it. And he didn't flat out deny it. And it kind of makes sense. The NBC connection. There's a feel that maybe that's real. And we'll figure it out. He didn't deny it outright. He didn't deny it. I didn't hear any. Yeah. 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When I left, I wrote this big long text to you about how great you are, how you're one of my favorite people, how you always have the best stories, how you bring this energy around you. I'll drink coming in. Oh yeah, yeah. How uh. Trade you out, it's Saturday night. It's Saturday night. Where it is. I earned this, I earned this. Thank you. This is delicious. You did write me a nice note, you did. You did. Ha ha ha. Remember your response. What did I say? No, I don't remember, I don't recall at all. I don't recall at all. What? Uh oh. What? What did you put in there? What's going on Bartender? Oh my gosh. It's cause I call them Nepo Baby. But you believe in Nepo Babies now, so it's not even a bad thing. No, it's the best thing. They have the lineage. Yeah, it's in the blood. Ha ha ha ha. So I sent you this note and you just wrote back Dublin. I just wrote back Dublin? Dublin, that was it. Because I used to tell you this joke. And I told you this joke, I think just once, but you would always say it to me. It's like, what's the big, did you know that Dublin's the biggest city in the world? It's always Dublin. Cause it keeps Dublin in Dublin. Ha ha ha ha. And she just wrote back. I know, it's that beautiful message with Dublin. You just wrote back Dublin. It was great, it was so great. I wanted you to know I felt it and I heard it. It was so great. Do you know, like there was something really special to me about that, because do you know that your dad's last words to me? Do you know this? No, what were they? I was following around. I was like annoying the shit out of him. I was giving him like this idea. I was like, I got this pitch dusty. And he goes, shut up Becky. And that was it. They were his last words. And I couldn't ask for a better last word. What a solid way to go. Solid way, but it was just like perfect. He was sick of my shit. And you were also sick of my shit, but also in like, in a night. I was never sick. No, no, no, no. No, I mean in a night, in Deering. I only had the one. I was so full of her shit. Well, I only had the one ill incident and it was not your fault. It was my fault. It was my own insecurity. The six egg whites. Was it six or was it 12? No, it was a six egg white omelet. This man was so upset. I'll give you the preface. That I asked for six egg white omelet. So in catering overseas, they do have eggs, which is like what most of us, we should just get to the eggs. They also have an omelet bar. Now that omelet bar is for, if you're down there early, but I kind of thought the omelet bar was more for like Undertaker or Triple H or Randy or it kind of went in the, this is old school. The business isn't this way anymore. But the NXT kids, the class that had come up, that Terry Taylor told, you're not here to earn a spot. You're here to take a spot. They came up vicious and they were all super talented, super talented and super confident. And Sammy Zayn was one of those. I couldn't get a good moment with Sammy save my life in the beginning, but I didn't know. By the way, I was not one of those. I didn't know you that well. Okay, right, okay. I was waiting in line at the omelet station. I was there early. I had some tenure with WWE. Not that that should ever matter. I had something going on and then she just got right in front of me. And I didn't get right in front of you. I didn't like skip you or anything. I think you did. What? And then you asked the guy. Yeah, I know. You asked him, you said, you did. You had like six egg whites. And then he goes, six egg whites. And he said, actually 12. No, I did not. This is a Cody lot. I don't think it is. This is a Cody lot. I've never eaten a 12 egg white omelet in my life. Well, you were like, you were shredded. I was jacked. Yeah, you're in great shape now. First of all, I don't think I skipped you. I think I might've been there first. And second of all, it was just a six egg white omelet. I am 99.9% positive. Not only did you skip me, maybe you didn't ask for 12 egg whites. I did not skip you. No, I didn't. But I think you muttered under your breath when I left the room. Who cares? It's f***ing stardust. I think you muttered under your breath. And I thought, you know what? I did not. No, she didn't say that part at all. But you didn't ask for the egg whites. I did ask for the egg whites. I don't think I skipped you. Unless you were like talking to somebody and I didn't realize that you were in line. That hurt me so much during that period. Cause everything hurt me during that period. Well, you would bring it up, but I kind of thought you were joking. But now I realize that you are serious. I'm sorry. But it hurt my heart because I had nothing. I was insecure. You guys were all coming up. Again, super talented. If I was being dishonest, I'd be like, oh, they weren't ready. Oh, no, you guys were ready. You guys were better than everybody. No, I wasn't ready. I just wanted to find my place back in the pantheon of the industry and I couldn't. And I was getting further away from it and further away from it. And then ultimately got so far away from it that I left. So the egg whites are all part of that. And they really pushed you over the edge. Not that one. There's another story that fully pushed me over the edge. And I have to tell it on this podcast at one point because it involves one of our friends. Was it one of our? Was it my husband? It was not. I would, no. Was it Ramy? That guy was cold. He's always been cold. Summer is here. More sun, more light, more time to do all the things that make summer so special. And the number one thing you don't want to be doing all summer, spending hours cooking inside. That's where factor comes in. Factors chefcrafted, dietitian approved meals are ready in just two minutes. Taking the hassle out of eating well. 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Oh, you don't think he's the best? I think he's great. Well, there's a... I think he's great. There's hesitation there. What did he do? He has never done anything. Andy is a... He's a legend. He's my guy. He is a legend, but he didn't get driver of the year. He didn't get driver of the year. That was f***ed up. That was f***ed up. Okay. Roman's driver got driver of the year, and I love him. I love him so much. Charlie. I love Charlie. I would sit down and have the best chats with Charlie, but Charlie, you didn't f***ing drive. You didn't drive. He showed up for work six times last year. How the f*** are you getting driver of the year? That was bullshit. Well... Andy was rocked because Andy is amazing. Charlie's amazing, but Charlie didn't work that much. So, one of the things... This is what I want to bring up here is my bus driver is incredibly kind and nice. Doesn't curse often. Also, Matt. Also, Matt. Matt is the one I felt was really robbed because I do notice when Andy pulls into a building, if you tell him he can't bull into that building, or if you're in his way, the words that come over... He's a pit bull. He is a pit bull. He is a pit bull. And you're good with all that, right? Andy's your guy. Andy's my guy. Andy's your guy. I will say that I do think Charlie shouldn't have got it. Charlie. I love you, Charlie. You just... You didn't learn it. Matt or Andy. Matt or I would have been good with either of them. You would have been fine with those choices. I would have been fine with Matt too. I'm glad you feel the same way I feel about this driver of the year situation that's developed. Yeah, I was actually very upset about it. Yeah, when I found out I thought, what? What? But I also can't... You know, I'm new to the bus game. I guess I can't really judge, but it does seem like... You know, really... We weren't out there a lot. You didn't drive. Oh, all right, all right. You hardly drove. He did drive for... He drove for us a couple of times. Yeah. Because, well, he was never at work because Roman wasn't there. All right. Well, moving past this portion of it... But anyway, and Matt, by the way, have we talked about his band? Have we talked about your driver's band? No. No. Incredible. Yeah, I've never heard of it. You haven't heard that? No. Matt and I have a very... We have an understanding. I usually... I'm very quiet and I don't like a lot of questions and I love Matt. And I often think Matt probably thinks, that's a little... Oh, okay. Because I just hide and I'd be like, if he does, it would make sense. I hide, I go right to the back. We talk for like three minutes when he picks me up. Hey, how you doing? And then he always asks me the same thing that he doesn't realize kills me. He always asks, he's like, how are the girls? I'm like, well, Matt, I had to leave them. So I wish I was with them, but, you know... So love me, Matt. And my daughter loves Matt. She sat up front and rode four hours the other day. Just chatting with Matt. Just chatting with Matt. That's amazing. Yeah, because she's so... Matt's a great guy. Yeah, but I don't get... So she might have heard the band. Tell me about the band. The band is incredible. It's a family band. I do know the band. I have met the family. It's a family band. Amazing. So he also knows what it's like to leave his family to come on the road. He has a band with his family. You don't have a band with your family. I don't have a band with my family. You know what I mean? That's dedication to the family. And you also got to leave the family. Matt, we love you. We do. If you could have had... If you could have a band with your family, what instruments would everyone play? Oh, gosh. I mean, Ru would be the singer. She'd be the performer. She's got all the moves and everything. She does. Her hips move in a way that a half Irish person's hips should not move. Sure. You know what I'm saying? So that's not from you, you think? That's not from me. That hip movement. Yeah. I mean, like when he comes out, like, I'm like, God, he's so cool. I felt like I was going to avoid talking about Colby. Oh, no. And I thought... So I'm going to go ahead and state, he is probably on the top on the list, who's ever out there, you know, voting in this and measuring. He's a top wife guy. He's a great wife guy. Always like, oh, I got to check in with the wife. Oh, I hope she... I got to watch her match. I got to do that always. Great. Oh, he's the best. I feel like there's no pressure in this question, and I'm not in awe of saying it in a adversarial fashion. Do you feel that you match his energy as he is this ultimate wife guy? Oh, God. Do you match that energy? Or do you find that you're his thing, his muse, he's got to please you? Or is it a mutual thing? Because I've heard you say things like, how hot he is. Like, I don't want to say this. I've heard you describe... My hot husband. He's my hot husband. I really put him over. So that's solid. That's solid. I always... Well, you know, so... Oh, gosh, it's interesting because I think he is... Like, I think the dynamic is a little bit in the house, at least that he pretends I'm the boss, right? Like, we know that I'm the boss, the ultimate say. But he has that tall, dark demeanor, and he's like all broody and stuff. But I revere him more than any person ever. He's, I think he's the greatest. I think he's the smartest. He's the coolest. He's the best person to talk to. He's the most talented... Go ahead. Go on. This is all... I just think he's incredible. I think he is the best. And I go like all the time. That's what I say at home. I'm like, how do I get off living this life with this hot husband who is... Who is just so incredible, who's so intelligent. He's such a great dad. And then we have this daughter and we have such fun together. And I just feel so unbelievably lucky. And everything, and I feel so lucky in my career. I feel so lucky in everything that I've done. But it's all just icing on the cake. The fact that I have this family is... It's unbelievable. It's mind-blowing to me. Because that's it. That's life. You know? That's living. That's the whole purpose of the soul. And when I was gone for that year, you know, I'd have friends over. We'd have dinner parties. Because I read about this article where they said the dinner party was dying. And I said, not on my watch. No. No, no. You're not having that. I'm not having that. Dinner party's back. In fact, I've asked you guys, if you're ever in LA, please come over. I want to have a dinner party. Dinner party, yeah. Dinner party. Because the kids go off and play. The adults saw it. It's the best. I love it. What makes up a proper dinner party? Like a little, you know, like a little cocktail hour type thing. Yes. Small bites. Small bites. Small bites. Maybe a little appetizer. Then you got your main meal. You got to move locations too. I think you start in one spot. So we start just everybody's, everybody's like, conversating and eating the little chips or whatever you've got lying around the place. They sit in the living room, then go, okay, dinner served or whatever appetizer served. Then we move to the dining room. Eat, eat, eat. Then the main course comes, eat, eat, eat, dessert and then dessert, dessert disperses. Do you go as far as the conversation, the entertainment or is there entertainment? The conversation. Conversation. The entertainment. See, I think I'd go so far as like, hey, and this. Oh, see. And something happens. And I don't know what that is. A magician. Well, it's a big Irish thing to have a sing song. A sing song. A sing song around the table. Please tell me what a sing song is. So a sing song. I assume you're just singing. Yeah, yeah, just a sing song. Like, so we'll just bust out into song or poem. You know, you have to bring something or a joke or anything, but like, some people hate it. Like, I think my ma hates it actually, because she's like, everybody's having a conversation then everybody has to be quiet because song has to happen. But yeah, but we bust out into it. But I love it. I think it's great. How do you view your dinner parties are going? Are they cooking or people? I think they're great. Yeah. I think they're great. Like, if you're invited to a Becky dinner party, that's a big deal. Don't embarrass me. Like, that's a big, you know, people show up and they're nervous almost. Oh, no, no, no, I wouldn't want that. Well, if you're setting the bar, bring in dinner parties back, cuz I don't think many people are doing the dinner party. Because that's the thing most people come over and they have Uber Eats and stuff. What's your, I feel like you're a good host. I do like to be, actually made, I cooked for your husband one time. Did you? Yeah, I don't remember the circumstances of this, but he was in Atlanta. he was filming and he wanted to come by. Oh yes, I came by too. I made him like a steak, but we had already eaten. So I just made this giant, I feel like bone-in ribeye. Yes. And just was doing everything to time it so that it wasn't this cold hunk of meat when he walked in. So I was doing everything I could because I pride myself on my big green egg and my steaks and I don't know if I hit the mark. No, it was really good. I remember that. I remember him talking about how great it was. See, he has that. You're right about that. So like, is it good? Yeah. Do you like that? He has that energy. Yeah. He has that energy. What a good energy to have. I know. Yeah. But he doesn't like, he doesn't try at all. You know, he also doesn't care what anybody thinks of him. I want enemies. Oh. Because what I've learned is the better things have gotten for me, the more hate I've got. Oh, I have so many enemies. So I've started to say like, yes, I want you to come for me. You know, it started to dare people almost. Go ahead, cancel me. Because I've found that you really can't be canceled unless you're a piece of shit. Piece of shit. Yeah, like, so if you're just said something dumb one time, that's not enough guys. Yeah. Please come for me. And I've also found that all these guys that are like, gosh, salt to the earth, everybody loves him in every locker room. Those are the shadiest people on the planet. And nobody points out how, oh my, oh, everybody loves him. He's so good. But then also like, I don't want to say anything. He's going to specifically pinpoint one of these people. But then years later, you're like, oh, hmm. Oh, it makes sense. God, but I feel like everybody loves you. And everybody loves, I think so. I think so. I don't know. I walked in there today. I don't hear bad words about you. Everyone was pretty nice. Everyone was pretty nice. I don't hear bad words about you. Last one. I don't hear bad words about Colby. I never, never. We'll never hear bad words about him. But he also doesn't give a shit if there was. I have one follow up Colby question. Go on. I don't like the way nice ring. You know what? He's somewhat related to this ring, this Tiffany wedding band that I have. Oh, what is that? This is the day of the infamous Las Vegas press conference. Where? I'll swap. Where rock slapped me. It was as that's as real as anything's ever happened in the business. Everything that was going on around that situation. And I was doing my best to deal with conflict. And part of me dealing with conflict was I'm in Las Vegas and doing all right. I'm going to go on a shopping spree. And all I was trying to do was find a tie bar. That's it. I want a tie bar, just a bar to go across the time. I went to every store it could possibly go to. I did everything and I walked into Tiffany's. I got stuff for Brandy. I got stuff for Libby. And then they had this wedding man. I thought I'll get that. And then by the time I got it, it was like, hey, please come to the building. And I came to the building and the rest is history. And he had the green suit on your husband. Right. And he was out there yelling and hunters yelling and we're all I just always remember he's in that really ridiculous green suit. Yeah. Throughout. I think it was a green suit. Yeah. It was a green suit because that was the calling. It was all, yeah. Everyone's yelling at everybody. Yeah. The giant family tree was on the wall. I mean, Philadelphia. Yeah. But here's my last question about him because I wasn't going to ask any questions. I did he and you I I have known you to be nothing but honest. I'm such a bad liar. I can't lie to him. I can't lie to anybody. Well, I'm going to ask you a question. My voice goes real high. Did he lose the watch I got him? No. Oh, that sounded like it was high, but no. You went high. No. You went high after 10. No. He did not lose the watch. You got it. Okay. Yeah. All right. I don't think he's worn it. Never. I don't think he's worn it. I have literally never seen it. But I think it's on the bus. Great. I think it won't. It's in a safe spot. You got it, Andy. Yeah. Yeah. We've got Andy. You've got Andy. We've got Andy. He was up for driver of the year. Didn't get it. Didn't get it. Nor Matt. And Nor Matt, man. I'm sorry. Family band. God damn. You know one thing you've encouraged me to do? I need to talk to Matt more. You should talk to Matt more. He would be a good guest on this pod. He's great. Yeah. I really am a big fan of Matt. Always. It's just so happy. Starting to feel like you know Matt more than I know. And that's where I'm starting to get like, I don't know about this. Yeah. Because we've been through some stuff mad night. You have been through some stuff. My bus blew up. That was a fire. And I ran to your bus. And you slept on our bus, right? No. I just sat in the front seat and the part of the story people don't know. And I think it's safe on a podcast provided by our friends from Wheatley, American Vodka. Before I went to bed, I might have had a few drinks. So when the, so the story goes, go to bed, the whole reason I'm sleeping on the bus outside of the stadium is because I don't want to bother my family. My family is all in town for us. So Mania, it's very stressful and I don't want to take the stress out on anyone. I want them to see me in peace and happy. So if I'm on the bus, I can't you, you and live and every, every, you guys are going to be great. I'll see you then, whatever. So I'm on the bus, I'm private and I can get all my stuff done. Plus, you know, at a certain point, WDB is going to ask you to do 65 appearances that you have no time for. But somehow we have time for. And I am, I don't say no. But I, I was pretty tired. So I'm definitely really excited to have gone to sleep for about 30 minutes. And then I hear like just a loud, like, I don't even know how to describe it. Two bangs. And I thought they were gunshots. Oh, that's terrifying. I thought, and we were in this alley on the side of the stadium. And then I just hear Matt going, we got to get off this bus. And I hear his feet running and I run out. And the only way I can describe it, if you see the ceiling of the bus, is if you've ever been on the mummy at Universal Studios. Yes, when the fire comes in. When the fire effect. Oh my God. So I thought he was like exaggerating the level of this fire. And then I just see this giant hole in this fire running up and down the bus. And again, had a few drinks, super tired. I grabbed my picture of my family. I grabbed my boots. I run off the bus and I'm looking at the bus and I'm like, I had more time. Wow. The fact that you even had the wear with all. Well, I needed my boots, the ones with your husband's logo on them. I needed my boots. But also I had more time. I could have got a few more things. Well, you never know if you have time. But that's the other thing. So I'm because it was dripping through that hole. Yeah. So I was like, uh, uh, and then I ran in the freezing cold because everyone remembers that mania. It was cold. I ran your bus and he just was looking at me like, you okay, man? He knew there was a fire, of course. He's like, it's. But he was looking at me. Colby. Yeah. And he could tell I was shell shocked. I was like shaking. I'm in what I would qualify as like pajamas, like Cesaro high shorts and like a tank top. And I'm just shaking. And he's just like looking at me. And then we see these two on the bus with a hatchet trying to break. I know the fire department hasn't come yet. And then they, they start backing Mrs. Bus up. I'm like, this thing is going to blow up. Yeah. This bus is going to blow up. And then the fire department, God bless the Philadelphia fire department, but also they destroyed the bus because they just got up there and they blasted it. And then they drove off. Like that. We didn't even have a conversation like, Hey, that your bus is all good now. Nothing. Like they hit it and quit it. Were you even able to get back on your bus? I got, so, so I got on for a fake walk, a rival shot because we had the, the wrap on the bus. So I got on a bus with a hole in it and a dusty center. Like it was all blown out. I got my stuff in the back with safe. Thankfully it was really my WrestleMania robe and all the stuff Sandra had made me. God bless her. But that, I got off it for a shot with Tommy. Like we just need to see you getting off the Wheatley bus. So had you shot the Wheatley bus any further, you would have seen there's a giant hole in the top. It doesn't move anymore. It's going to sit here for a while guys. And yeah, that was it. That was, I will say, Martin Andy, two people that you'd want in any circumstance. Did you watch that night? They will, what, did they watch what? Did you watch how they handled that fire? No, I didn't. I think I was asleep. But the way that they would handle anything, we had our, our bus exploded too. It's the one time I disagree with your sentiment. Really? It looked like two animals on top of the bus screaming at each other with a hatchet. So I don't know what they were trying to cut out or cut, I don't know, but it looked like the one time I would say, you know what? Like the, it looked like Donkey and Diddy Kong from my memory, like up there just goofing around. And there's a fireball coming out. That's it. I will say this, bravest people on earth. They will run into the shit. They were, they ran to it where I ran away from them. Yes. Yeah. And I, but the best was, you, like Colby just had this calm, just kind of watching out the window. He's always calm. As if like this happens. Always, always calm. Buses blow up around WrestleMania. This is a thing. He just had this whole, well, it had just happened to us. That's true. You had the fire. It had just happened to us. We were driving from Tulsa to Iowa. We're going to drive home that night. Yeah. Next thing, and it was in the middle of the night. It was my birthday. Actually, it was my birthday, my 36th birthday. I hear bang, bang, bang. And it was Andy going, get out. There's a fire. And I had Rue on the bus. Why? You guys, your fire drill is just get out. There's a fire. Yeah. There's a fire. Bang, bang, bang. So I wrapped her in a blanket and I run in. I don't have shoes on. We're at this come and go. That's the name of the place in Iowa. K-U-M. K-U-M and go. We run into this place. We're not wearing shoes. I've got a little baby. Like Colby runs in also not wearing shoes. Nobody's wearing shoes. Everybody's cold. And then. In the come and go. In the come and go. In the come and go. And then Andy runs in. He's like, you got a fire extinguisher? The guy's like, swipes a nickers bar. It's over there. And then the, so then Andy runs out. Zap, zap, zap, zap, zap. Puts out the fire. And then that was it. You were safe though. Yeah. We were safe. We were safe. So respect you come and go. Yeah. Yeah. Respectful. Respect you come and go. It's out of loves. They didn't even ask like are you guys okay though? So. It was just like that was it. And then, oh, and then so Andy then comes back. Everybody's like white shell shot. Got a little baby with me. Like all of us barefoot. And the guy goes, you gone bring my farts thing. What's your bag? You wanted a bag? Yeah. Did you buy anything? Didn't buy anything. No, no, no. No, no, no. Man. Not after that. No, no. Not after that. Poor customer service. Hell no. Yeah. Wow. Well, anyway, anyway, they kept us safe. These buses blow up apparently, huh? They blow up. That's the thing. Well. Knock on wood. Yes. We're safe. We're safe tonight. I always like to say that myself and Wheatley American Bodica is the American Dream team, right? And then what team would you have? We've had and listen, there's no real parameters to this. Sometimes we say going to the zombie apocalypse. Sometimes we say going into a war games match. That might make it a little easier. We've had it all over the board. What makes up your American dream? How many people can be on this team? If you're looking at, let's look at it at a war games and say five. Five. Okay. Are these all girls or all guys? That can be you. I feel like I know one. Kobe, right? Kobe is one Kevin and Rami or two, two and three. Interesting. You know what I mean? But I feel like- Jump right to them, huh? You don't want to rethink that one? No, not at all. Okay, all right. Not at all. Seth, Kevin, Rami, that's four. Yeah, as in Sami Zayn. We've, like I've known those boys since 2006. Well, if you're going war games, you got one more. Well, I've got one more. Hell, man. Man. Oish, oish, oish. Do I put a girl on there? Oish. I should put another lady on there. It's so hard, man. That's so hard. It's so hard. Holy moly. God, there's so many people I respect and admire. And- Your mom? My mom. God bless her. I don't know that she could throw down. She's too nice. Totally fair. She's too sweet. She's too sweet. I don't think my mom could throw down. And I might throw down, I might throw Bianca into there. Oh, heck yeah. Bianca's Bianca's incredible. What a team. What a team. Also, your team has no one who can, you're supposed to always, you should have someone who loses. That team has no one to do in the fall. No, no, no, no. Great team. No, it's just really, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know my fans have been waiting for something new. Well, head to WWE shop and check out my new American Nightmare Stars and Stripes collection, including authentic tees, hat, weightlifting belt, and everyone's favorite windbreaker jacket. The Cody Rhodes Stars and Stripes collection is live now. Don't wait to grab yours now, only on www.shop.com. I'm going to take out a hard D tour. Go. Hard D tour. I texted you about, I found out that you were doing something, and I don't know how much you can talk about it, but I found that you were doing something in the, in the world of Star Trek. Oh, yeah. And I am a late in life Trekkie. Late in life. Late in life because it wasn't a thing that I was into as a kid. Oh, okay. One night on. You don't hear that often. So one night on BBC America, they're playing TNG, they're playing Next Generation. I love the episode. I thought this is a great, a full moral, ethical conversation tale told in a 60 minute episode, and they're just doing it in space, and they wrap that up. I thought this is, I want, I want to, I want to know more. So I hit all of Next Generation. And then I say, Hey, what do I do after Next Generation? There was a producer at WWE at the time. He said, you should actually watch Enterprise. She's a unique choice. He said, watch Enterprise because it's the most recent in terms of the series. It's only four series, you know, four seasons. So I watch Enterprise. And then I'm, well, I got to watch Voyager. So then I watch Voyager. And then after Voyager, I'm like, finally, I'll watch Deep Space Nine, which is a weird one to watch last because Deep Space Nine is incredibly, it's an intellectual, it's an intellectual show. It's such a deep, like it was the perfect thing to be watching, watch all the movies, got as much lore as I possibly could. Do you think of yourself as an intellect? I know I'm not an intellect. Oh, really? I think of you as quite an intellect. So I like to, as many wrestlers do as I get educated on topics. And often conversations like this educate me on topics. I do like to talk, to learn. So I do like to get into an intellectual conversation. But because I pretty much just have a high school education, there's a limit to my intellectual conversation. You know, but I will say, I do think the best wrestlers always have a high intellect. You know, it's really, because I think there's this notion of wrestlers being dumb. And me being on that jeopardy really didn't help that notion. But, but I do think that the best wrestlers are always so intelligent. Like I look at you, I look at Colby, I look at Brian Danielson, you know, always just super stupid. John Dwayne, there has to be a high intellect. The level of talk is, yeah. You know what I mean? There has to be a high intellect to be great at this business. Hunter, you know, all of them so intelligent. Mick, very, very intelligent. But sorry, anyway, I'm really good. Nobody thinks it's a bird's eye expectation. It's like you said, you sit on a flight next to a wrestler. And you're talking to somebody, oh my gosh, Rami, my guy. Yes. You're talking to somebody and the conversation is, oh, this person really, I always liked that because I have an appearance tomorrow, for example, that I bet you they're expecting a wrestler. Right. From the 80s. From, oh, coming out now. They want like a, and they're going to get there. And the first thing I want them, that's why I'll be wearing a suit. The first thing I want them to know is like, oh, maybe it's, the range might be different on him. So I, I agree with you about intellect. And I forgot what, oh, we're talking about track. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. You're talking about track. Yeah. What can you tell us? It was great. It was great. I loved it. I loved it. I believe I'm coming back for the second season, which I think they're going to be filming soon. But yeah, no, it was great because Alex Kurtzman, who did all the movies, just talk about intellect, man. That guy is incredible and he's directing everything, writing everything. And they're for everything. And then Paul Giamatti is the villain in this. No way. In, in, in, in, on, unbelievable. Oh, you can imagine. Unbelievable. Slam Dunk. Yeah. Incredible. Slam Dunk. Incredible. And Holly, Holly Haunter is the main protagonist. You've got like the Oscar winner right there. And so, and the set is just incredible. It was, it was filmed in the round. I think that's, that's the height of what I can say. But it was, it was, it was an incredible experience. And you know, you're going through 12, 14 hour days and just, I, like I didn't want to leak. That's, I loved every second of it because you're around like all these great minds, great director, great producer, great writers, great actors. Yeah. And, and, and just watching it all play up like getting to play opposite Holly Haunter and Paul Giamatti. Just how good they are. Well, speaking of intellect. Yeah. And your entering Trek is the intellectual. You're entering that. Did you know that Crocs came from Sartre? No, tell me. Allegedly Crocs, they were these like futuristic shoes. Yeah. And, and they designed these Crocs. To look. These crazy futuristic. And then Crocs came out of Sartre, allegedly. I, a really great story I heard Patrick Stewart talk about was, and it reminded me so much of protecting K-Fabe. But when they were first filming TNG and they didn't know how it would go, some local news affiliate, they were doing some crossover. They put him in the uniform and he was still of the idea like, no, I'm the captain. Like when they see me on TV, I'm the captain. So he came on set and saw this guy from the, doing the weather in the captain's uniform. And he yelled at him and apparently sabotaged this whole cross promotion thing. He almost got fired. There's a whole. Really? Yeah. From protecting the integrity of I'm a space captain. It was a whole, I, it was very much like wrestling. And at that point in it, where we don't know about everyone's lives, there's no podcast, there's no social media, there's no regular active, you're not in someone's life constantly. Like today we're all in each other's lives constantly. Yeah. That whole. How do you feel about that, by the way? We live it. Wait, do you, do you like it or do you feel a resistance to it? No. Are you like, yeah, here's my life. Or are you like, ah, I know I should be, here's my life. But hell, man, I just want some mystique about me. And you know, I wish I didn't have to post so much. And I know, I know we want to be in communication. Yeah. With the audience that gives us the life that we live. But I also just, I want to preserve the mystique also for them. And also I just. So I kind of say F preserving the mystique. Because the toothpaste is already, can we get another one Kyle? The toothpaste is already out of the tube. Yeah. And a lot of times it's like, now I'm going to put the mystique back in. Now I'm going to be something. I have noticed, particularly with X, I have noticed that my algorithm is very friendly. And the reason that is is for, for over two years. I think it's been two years consistently, maybe with a slip up here and there. I only respond to positive. Ah, smart. I only respond to positive. And that has been very, I don't think I can have this mystique. Whereas when people know my dad, my brother, people know my whole family, my dog, my daughter, my wife. I don't think that's something that I can ever maybe recapture. But instead of recapturing it, I'd rather take them on the ride with me. That's fair. I even said that in the post the other day, which people way over thought. Which one was the something about riding with me. Thank you guys. Oh yeah. Because it was the don't flinch. Don't flinch. Well, no, it seems very. Of course. Well, what was the don't flinch about? Let's give us everything. Don't flinch. We live in a land. Don't flinch what? Don't flinch about what? Don't flinch about anything that happens in WWE. Here I am. I'm heading towards wrestling. Another legendary wrestler. I'm in a match with someone. It was literally just don't flinch because cardio got rained out because I do a walk around my neighbor for cardio and I just wanted to say, hey, we're in it. We're still doing it because I like bringing them on the ride with me. Right. I like bringing them and keeping the ride open. There's no firewall. If you weren't a fan, that's cool. If you're a fan now, hop on. And don't flinch. And yeah, don't flinch while I go through this stuff with John Cena. That's a way better way to look at it. That's 100% more what it was. That's what it was. And instead became this. And what was the follow up again? Don't flinch. Thank you for riding with me. Thank you for riding with me all this time. That's the other thing. All this time they've been there all this time. How does it, how is there a mystique when you've been here all this time? You guys did all this with me. And now it's the point where I'm going to go, hey, I'm shutting down because I need there to be some mystique. Had I started with mystique? You could see, you could see that it would be, you could see why there would be questions about it. As you're picking it apart, I can, I find your point valid. You know what I'm saying? Probably a poorly timed tweet or poorly worded. Here was my question that I started to ask and never asked. Sorry. Do you have a favorite Star Trek captain? If we're looking at Picard, Janeway, Archer, Kirk, we could count this as ladder, ladder seasons. You could, you could, you could Spock, Sun Lugos captain at one point. A few less lower decks. Another biggest trekking in the world. But like it was one of those things where we had like back in my day, we had like four channels. It was something that was always on in the house with four channels, you know. But I can't say that I paid a huge amount of attention to. I did love the movies. I did love the movies and Chris Pine was amazing. I always get confused with all the Chris's because there's Chris Hemsworth, Chris Evans, and Chris Pine, but I think it's Chris Pine. Well, Chris Hemsworth is actually in that reboot movie. Oh, yes. Right up front. Right up front. Yeah, he's dad. He's dad. He's dad. Sacrifices himself. It's all, it's a whole thing. There's also one time I met Chris Hemsworth. Was it, was it, was he? So embarrassing. Okay. So this was before he was a big star in America, right? But he was, I was a flight attendant. I was on an overnight in Chicago and I was working out in this crunch fitness downtown. It was early in the morning, like 6am. And this personal trainer comes up, starts talking to me, you know, and do some jokes at the time, you know, the one and the other. And then anyway, then Chris Hemsworth walks by. I'm like, oh, you're that guy from Home and Away. Because Home and Away was this big Australian show, but it was like, it was on, on Irish TV at 6.30 every single night or T2. Got it. I loved it. Loved Home and Away. It was like, oh, you're Kim from Home and Away. And then why did I say this? Oh, you idiot. Why did you say that anyway? He was like, oh yeah, that's me. And I'm like, oh, I bet nobody knows who you are over here. Why did I say that? Oh, that seems. Why? Yeah. Why did I say that? You idiot. And he was like, oh no, you're the first one. And then I bet every day since he was like doing curls, I'm like, oh, they're going to know who I am now. Yeah. Idiot. Yeah. Idiot. But also it's just what you said. It's just what I said. Don't you feel like sometimes when you meet fans, maybe they've been waiting for a second and they build the thing up they're going to say? Yeah. And oftentimes I feel like, did you mean to say that? Yeah. And I know, I know like they didn't. It was the, there was a moment and I'm like, yeah, it's all good. By the way, did you hear this? There was this thing kind of went around a little bit. The other day I helped this lady. She fell down. She was, she was in a wheelchair. She fell out of a wheelchair. Oh, look at you. Real super hero. Yeah, yeah, I know. Real super hero. Went over, I helped her up, I helped her in, you know, she talked to me. She's like, oh, how's your daughter? She beautiful, you know. And then she gives me a hug and she goes, I hope Bailey beats you. This actually happened. This actually happened. Or is this like a dusty story? No, no, no, this is. This was a hell of a tale that I was in. This old lady said, I hope Bailey beats you. Bailey beats you? Bailey beats you. Cool. Then dumped her back out of her wheelchair and I walked up. No, I didn't do that. I didn't do that, but I was like, oh, well, that serves me right. Wow. Yeah. Just trying to help somebody out. Yeah, but you know, anyway, anyway, I bet nobody knows who you are. Yeah. I bet nobody knows who you are. Chris Hemsworth. Well. 22 year old me. He's doing good. He's doing all right. He did all right. He did all right. Homing away, what was the show? Homing away. This is Australia. What was he on? He was, his name was Kim. And his name was Kim. Bunch of stars came out of Homing away. Like Kyla Fisher came out of Homing away. I can't think of anybody else off the top of my head. But Chris Hemsworth. Homing away. Kyla Fisher, Homing away. And that was, Star Trek was on one of those channels, that Homing away was on. Because that's where we started with all this. Yeah. He was the chief. This would have been like 90s. What was it in the 90s? This Deep Space Nine is what I think you watched. Ork at the bar. Yes. And they're on the space station. Coming in. Thank you, sir. Yeah. A lot of movies. The movies really incredible. It's all good. So, is it column mini? Column mini. Because it's not column. Column. Column. I feel, column. Column. Column. Column. Column mini. Column. Column. Column barrel. He's amazing in these shows by the way. He's an incredible. Absolutely. He's an incredible actor. He is amazing. Yeah. Well, so you, Deep Space Nine, that would have been, that would have been Cisco. Cisco was the commander of the space station. He became the captain. Really, really, really, really a unique character. Really, really. And way ahead of its time, television wise. All of it is very ahead of its time. He was a single, he was a single black father. Who is like, they presented them as morally and upright and a good, upstanding man. Different from anything that was on TV. Like they played Hawk in the series. It's a whole, he's a very, very, very special actor. And that's a special show. I love how much you love it. Oh, I love, when I heard you were in it, I was, you know, like, I don't get jealous of our people. I'm a root for our people type. But it was one of those where I thought, oh, I hope she has a good time. What's a good rumor out there? You got a good rumor? I'm not on the internet. You're off. Are you? I try to stay away from things as much as possible. Does it, do you feel it? No, not at the front. I think it hurts me a little bit. Do you? I, maybe I do, but I feel happier for it. But I do feel like I don't waste. I remember just like sitting there and scrolling, because it's such an addiction, right? Like you end up scrolling, you end up comparing, you end up like everything becomes this weird comparison. You feel like you're always falling behind. And I was like, what am I, what am I doing? I'm way less happy when I'm on this. It's crazy the things you find on there. I will say, like in terms of measuring happiness, I would say I am 80% happier not knowing everything. And like, look, I'll, I'll, maybe read the news too much. And people will always tell me the important things. Of course, I'm like a little bit late to things. And then I'm like, oh, hey, that's so great. And I never know when anybody's birthday is. I never know when anybody's birthday is. I think most people don't know when people's birthday is. Yeah, but they find out from social media. Yeah. Because there's always like, oh, happy birthday, Cody Rose and whatever. So I never know when anybody's birthday is. But, and you know, I post and all that kind of stuff, but I don't lose myself in, in, in, in the noise. And that's been something that, that I think has been hugely beneficial to my life, my mental health, my happiness, but maybe not in terms of knowledge, knowledge of what's going on and being able to chime into things. Well, where you're, where you're definitely ahead of the curve in terms of where you're definitely right is time. Time. That time is not wasted doing that. That time is spent doing what you would like to be doing. Because, you know, that's, that's, that's great choice. With everything that we've got going on with wrestling, with acting, with riding, with most importantly, parenting and, and being a wife and, and being a friend. Top wife, considering you were matching his, his. Hopefully. Wife guy status, you know, a husband girl. He's the best. I am very much a husband girl. I, I'm a big fan of my husband. Let me, let me ask you a question as far as I wanted to ask you this early. And it's going to come out of left field. It may not become out of left field, but I want to know it personally because you've had a really, really, really, I could keep saying really, but you, the truth doesn't need weight. You've had an incredible career, one that I would look at and be like, that's a, that's a career. That's what you want. That's special. Do you have, and it's, I would totally understand if you don't, do you have a favorite moment in all of this? No, no. Yeah. No, uh, honestly, the thing that I'm most happy for is that I've been able to have a career and a family like that to me, because it's hard for women, right? Because you have to step away to have a family and all that stuff. And then you're worried, like, am I going to get my space and all those things. But, but being able to have both, I go, oh, that's, that's it. I did it. You know, that makes me feel the most happy and the most proud. You know, there's been things that I've loved. I really, I really love, I really love being, being, being a bad guy. I feel like I do more good being bad, you know? Yeah. Like I'm, I'm a better wrestler that way. I'm better at, uh, sure. I'm better at making people look good. I'm, because I'm not a cool wrestler and don't have cool moves. I don't, like, I don't do anything. I just watched the whole cool move match. And what did I do? What did I do? I didn't do nothing, but I can put, put other people's stuff. You did something where I asked why the, why you position your way on it. And then it was so you could fall right back into the arm bar. And I thought, ah, that was, now I get why she positioned herself like that. Oh, was that off the superplex? It was very well. I didn't know what I was doing actually there. I was like, oh, I'll just figure out where I'm going to go. Um, and then I was like, I shouldn't have, shouldn't have, shouldn't have gone for the pain. I shouldn't have just done it. Anyway, so you like that being, you like the heel side of things. I love it, man. I love it. I love it. I love it. I feel like I'm a better wrestler because everybody else has all these cool stuff. Like Lyra, she's got all this cool stuff. Like the wings. It's just got all this cool stuff. Crowd was going with the wings tonight. Bianca, when I was working with her, like she had all this cool stuff. And I'm like, I'm really good at knowing where to put other people's stuff. Which is a huge skill set in itself. Yeah. Being there, being a base, being able to prop somebody up, being able to make it. It's a huge skill set. I can think of other people's stuff that would look cool. But you're also telling yourself short here. You, you should know that you're incredibly cool and do incredibly cool things. Sure. I'm fine. Yeah. I'm great. But, but I feel like I'm better, I'm better, I'm better at that. And so I can do, and I, you know, I think there's the other thing is that, when you are, when you are a baby face, you have to be selfish. You have to be selfish. Yes. Because you have to be liked. You have to be, your job is to be like, your job is to look the coolest. It's almost political, almost. It is political. You got a campaign. You have to campaign. And you have to look the coolest. And you have to, you have to look like the best, the smartest, all of these things. Because that is your job, by the way. That is your job. You're the model for, you're their guy, their girl. Yes. You, yes, you have to be cool. That is stressful. Yeah. Man, that is so stressful. Because it becomes political, it becomes this thing. Whereas when you're a heel, you get that freedom too. There's nothing I can do that is wrong. I can, let me help you. My job is to make you look cool. Sounds nice. You know what I'm saying? It's nice. It is way, it's way less stressful. And it's just even in this insular, insular part, like not even taught, not even when it comes to the crowd, just actually what the business is. The business is, if I'm a babyface, I have to be the best. I have to look the best. So, hey, excuse me, heel. Sorry, I have to be the best. So it becomes this thing. Whereas, okay, let me make you the best. That's great. That's great. Bop, bop, bop, bop. So I have the, I have the complete opposite outlook. Go on, please. No, you're right. On all of these metrics, on all of these measurables, I just, I don't have any interest. In being a bad guy. None. Well, you're so good at being a good guy. Well, I don't, I don't, I. What a guy. But also just generally, what a guy, what a guy, what a guy, he's a great guy. He's a great guy. Looks great. He's great. He's great to be around great. I just don't know if I could do it. But like the people, like. I don't know if my heart would be at it. Because everybody knows like Kodi roads, Kodi roads. You know what I mean? You know Kodi roads, but you don't get to be around the Kodi roads. Energy and the Kodi roads, energy is awesome. He's always got these stories. He's always, he's always nice. He's like helping everybody. He's always polite. It's just a great energy to be around, like the real Kodi. And then the world gets the other Kodi roads, which is also awesome. But like the real Kodi roads is, is how do you do this guy? You know what I mean? How do you do this guy? Dublin. Great guy, Dublin. Dublin. Oh man. That's dangerous, that drink or other. It's so dangerous. I want to ask you one question because your book is outstanding. Thank you very much. I put this in my notes. This is a quote from your book. This is like, stop you in your tracks quote from your book. Trying too hard is just a confession that you don't trust yourself to be good enough. Oh yeah. Jeez. Did you enjoy writing your book? I loved writing my book. You got to write a book. I would love to. I feel like you'd write a great book. I would love to write a book, but an entire huge chapter is locked behind a wall. And everything I say these days when it comes to that is somehow I'm rewriting history. I'm remembering wrong, even though the receipts are literally on social media. Stop. But every time I say anything, it's the wrong thing to say. And it's, it hurts. Like it hurts my heart because I'd love to tell the story. I just have to wait for somebody else to tell the story and hopefully they include me in it. But you know, it's, it's a very odd situation, but I would love to write a book. Oh man, you write a great book. I could tell the egg white story. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How much of a piece of shit I am. Not at all. 12. 12 egg whites. 12. And then I just walked out of there. I moved on. I knew I was done at that point. I think Randy had a Randy moment that same day. Which moment? Ice cream or coming to catering late? No, I think he, I think there was an omelet. I think the omelet for him took a long time. I think like, I believe Carmella got an omelet before him. And I believe he went like full Randy. He's not, I don't think Randy loves, I talk about Randy all the time. And I think he's like, I wonder if he could keep some of these stories low. But I think a highlight for me is a catering moment where he said, do you have ice cream? Of the ice cream one. And the guy was like, no, we don't have it. He's like, hey, if I go back in that kitchen right now and look in the freezer, is there going to be ice cream? And the guy was like, well, he's like, so you do have ice cream? It was this whole thing. He goes, I'm not going to go back there. But if I go back there and he goes, well, hold on, sir. He's like, I'm just saying, you know, and then the next thing he brought out that like giant tray of ice cream and all these people are like, hey, guys, enjoy. Like nobody wanted it other than him in the first place. But oh man, god damn, no, I gotta eat it all. Oh my gosh. What a guy. Oh man. What a guy. At 17, it was my first house show. They, WWE came to Ireland and I got these tickets and I was real close. And I was convinced Randy Orton made eye contact with me. It made my life. Well, that's great. He probably did. He probably did. I tried. He did this whole thing. So I was, I lost it. I always tell people a way that you can, and I don't mean this in a negative way, but a way you can tell a very green baby face is if they come out and they're doing this, but they're not slapping anyone's hands. They're not looking. They're not, they're, people are there, but they're just doing this. They might have touched someone's face and not even know it. I feel like as nervous as we are in that moment, we're all terrified. We're all nervous. We're all, you have to actually look. It's a live event. There's an audience. So when I get up on the buckle for the second bit of pyro, I try everything. If there's a sign, if there's a silly, I try all I can to do as many of these. And maybe I forget whatever I was supposed to be doing next, but I feel better for it because they came. They're holding a sign. They're excited. Like, I don't want them watching me like I'm in a fish bowl. I want them to feel like they're in it with me. And then I don't know, but I always can tell when I see somebody doing this and they're not looking, I'm like, Hey, it's okay to look at them. They're okay. They're good folks. They're good folks. They're great folks. They're great folks. Appreciate you. They're the best. Appreciate you. Appreciate. We don't got to do what we do without you. Appreciate you. This is the Wheatley American vodka jingle. I'm going to let you watch it and then I'm going to ask you to replace a single word. Vodka soda with Wheatley. Wheatley, so good I drink it. This song right here is for the red, white and blue. You got good taste and you drink like a tune. Wheatley, so good I drink it. Wheatley, American vodka. Wheatley, so good I drink it neatly. If you were to take out the word neatly, what would you say? Wheatley, so good I drink it. Sweetly? We'll take it. That's beautiful. As you have kind of sharpened your arsenal, you're very much like Swiss army knife in terms of do this, do that. You've written a book. You're in the track utopia now. You're doing it. You have done everything and you continue to do more and redefine everything in pro wrestling and sports entertainment. Thanks very much. So now you're also doing improv classes? Not so much improv classes. Like I've done improv sessions and little bits of improv. Like the pilot for Movers, which was just the most amazing experience. It's the people that did Reno 911. So Ben Grant and Kathy Schimm who were just like improv geniuses and the nicest people and the most incredible, they create the most incredible energy around them. So you're learning from that. But that's been amazing. That's been amazing. I did a little bit with Second City when I lived in Chicago. I did a little bit of clown work. But I think we're kind of doing that all the time, right? In wrestling, we're always improvising. The big, what does the improv elements that you've been around, the sessions being on these shows, being around these improv talents, has it helped you in this chapter of your career? I think so. I think so because of course you pay attention more. You trust yourself more to know the best response to anything. Do you know it directly affects the show? What do you want to talk about? The whole, hey, town, so town, what do you want to talk about? A individual backstage who I heavily seek for advice. You can guess, I consider him a super genius. I have the utmost respect for him because he was incredibly helpful to my family, incredibly helpful. He told me. Why? No, that's a good guess though. He told me that I should always say, so, Atlanta, what do you want to talk about? And that the story, the promo, what I do, should follow suit and not just appear because he told me, he goes, you would make a great governor, you'd make a great, because you... Oh, my mom wants you to be president. Have we talked about this? We haven't talked about this. My mom saw him at a live event in Belfast. Yeah. And she was going around shaking everybody's hands, kissing babies. She was like, oh my god, oh my god, he should be president. He should be president. I told you this. That was my dream as a kid, wrestling. My mom thinks you should be president. And you know what? Whenever the time comes, I'll back you. That's huge. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll back you. I'll back you. You should be president. That's a big part of the vote right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You should be president. My mom thinks so. But the person... My mom saw them wrong. Actually, no, she didn't think I should press it. Anyway, go on. That's okay. But the person thought, he said, don't be that. We know you can put something good together. We know you can tell us the story. We know, but try your best to present this as is happening in the moment. What do we want to talk about? And then it just flows and goes. And sometimes it is very much, I hope I hit this and hit that. And I need to cover it. But the way he said it, I thought, yeah, that should always be it. And it actually unhinges me when I do it. It makes me remember like, yeah, I've got 50 things I'm supposed to cover. And maybe I'm supposed to hit this, whatever. But now I'm just talking to them. So you don't write out what you're going to say. So it's a... Do you? It used to be. Write it out. Voice note it. Run it by what I call the focus group poorly one time. They're not a focus group. It's a group chat of dumb friends who God bless them. I love them. Dumb friends are the best. The best. But now I like to be very, very organized. Very organized. However, in that moment, whether I wrote it out, whether someone wrote it for me, whether I came up with it and win that moment, it unhinges me where what I'm saying now doesn't flow just like it's written on paper. I'm actually in a different space all from that. I don't know if it's... I wouldn't consider improv, but that part of it, he always said, this should be improvisational. Is this John? It's not John. No. Is it Hunter? No, it's not. You're making great guesses. Who is it? I don't... It's... Is it Colby? I only... It isn't Colby. No. Colby usually, his advice is different. Roman. Nikki. You're now getting further from Nikki... Nikki Sampoña. Nikki Sampoña underrated. Just an incredible mind. No doubt. Nobody talks about Nikki Sampoña. Hit me with something by catering today that literally after you left, I went, I'm going to use that. Yeah. He hit and left. He is so... Like, first of all, whenever I see Nikki, I'm like, Nikki, why aren't you a film star? He's just got this great face. He's great at doing things. And then he's just... He's just a great mind. Very intelligent. He taught me how to speak a little bit of Italian, and I found out it wasn't Italian. Oh. It was just gibberish that he was making videos of me, and it was a whole bit, but he had great face. Very Nikki Sampoña. Great face. So I have... Okay, who was it? I don't want to tell you. Is it Kevin? No. It's Rami. So I only put Super Geniuses on older guys, older, luminary things. Michael Hayes. Close. He's a Super Genius. Bruce Prichard. No, Super Genius, but not him. You're actually super close to it, and you don't. Sean Michaels. No, Super Genius. Bro Dog. Bro Dog. We could... You don't have to guess everything. I'll just tell you. Ed's another Super Genius. All right. Okay. It is Mr. Heyman. Oh, great. Okay. Okay. See? Yeah, yeah. That was right there. Yeah, yeah. You went through everybody else. Yeah. I thought you were about to guess Jamie Noble or something at this point. Oh, I love Jamie Noble. He did a seminar at my school. Oh, my God. Did he? He did a seminar, and he took a photo in the ring where I don't think I've ever seen a guy look happier. He's so great. He's just teaching them wrestling. It's him behind them. And I could tell he want... We were going to take these photos anyway, Jamie, but I could tell he's like, I got to get a photo. And he just the... What a mind. What a brain on Jamie Noble. What a wrestling brain. I was such a fan of Jamie Noble, you know, watching wrestling back home. And then the first time I met him, I was terrified of him. I was so scared of Jamie. Yeah, he's a little... And it took me a long time before. I felt comfortable talking to him. And then one day we talked about UFC. We talked about UFC, and that was it. And then we were bonded. And then, of course, then I get with Colby. Yeah, to chat. And then he obviously with the J&J... J&J security. J&J security. You could bring him at any point. They're still working. And so... It's in perpetuity. Oh, my God. J&J security, yeah. Great lads. Great lads. Because Joey also... Oh, yeah. When I was in NXT, then he was one of the coaches. And sometimes we would get him. And back then in NXT, I was a lost cause. If it wasn't for your dad, I would have been gone. You know, I would have been well-gone. But it was your dad saw something of me. But even Joey, even though I was hopeless, was always so good to me. And he... Oh, what a brain on him. Do you know Joey gave me some really great advice one time? What was it? It's probably the best advice I ever got in wrestling, ever. Is I was really struggling when I was with Legacy because I was the fall guy. They liked me, but I was the guy who took the pin. I was... They had Ted positioned. He was going to be world champion. They told me this. And I don't know if that was all part of the game. And, you know, him and Randy were going to wrestle WrestleMania. And I was just going to be on the outside of the ring, all this. I remember Joey Mercury told me, he goes, don't let... He said, don't ever let anybody convince you you're not the biggest star in the ring. And I remember I had a match, a young lady named Red Velvet. Yeah, yeah. And I remember that was the one thing I could tell her. Because I could tell everything surrounding this is big. And you might feel... You might feel like you don't belong. Maybe you don't feel that way. But if you did, I need you to know, don't let anyone ever tell you you're not the biggest star in the ring. Because the advice is sound and functional. What we do out there in the suspension of disbelief, we have every right to be the biggest star in the ring. Yeah. It doesn't... They decide. The fans are going to decide who really... But we should never be less than. Yeah. And I thought, I love that advice. Yeah, I love it too. That's great. I remember this one lad up in Canada, Vancouver, told me something similar. Scotty Mack, if you don't believe in yourself, nobody else will. Absolutely. You know what I mean? And that's... It's kind of the elevated version of that. Those simple things sometimes drive you. Yeah. And look at you now. Look at you now. And look at you now. Look at us now. Look at us now. You've been a wonderful guest. Oh, thank you very much. It definitely has to be a part too. Thank you. Yes, please. And... You know what? Thank you. Dublin.