Small Town Murder

Social Media Mob Murder - Klawock, Alaska

70 min
Oct 31, 20256 months ago
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Summary

This episode covers the 2023 murder of 80-year-old Lincoln Petrovich in Klawock, Alaska, where three young men beat him to death after a Facebook post falsely escalated allegations of inappropriate behavior toward a 13-year-old girl. The hosts examine how social media misinformation and mob mentality led to vigilante violence, and contrast it with the true story of Halloween candy poisoning by Ronald O'Brien in 1974.

Insights
  • Social media mob justice operates in real-time with algorithmic amplification, transforming unverified allegations into community-wide calls for violence within hours in isolated communities
  • Vigilante actors often lack investigative capacity to verify claims before acting, relying instead on emotional narratives and peer validation in comment sections
  • Small, remote communities with minimal law enforcement (Klawock had no police chief for 2 months) are particularly vulnerable to social media-driven violence due to isolation and limited information sources
  • Urban legends about Halloween candy poisoning originated from a single real case of parental murder-for-insurance, creating decades of unnecessary public paranoia and surveillance of children's candy
  • Plea deals and cooperation agreements in group violence cases create incentive structures where first movers receive lighter sentences, potentially rewarding those who shift blame to co-defendants
Trends
Social media as primary news source in remote/rural communities creates information vacuum filled by unverified claims and emotional narrativesMob justice facilitated by social platforms targeting perceived threats to children, regardless of evidence verificationSentencing disparities in group violence cases based on cooperation timing rather than culpability or intentErosion of due process in communities where social media replaces formal investigation and legal proceduresIntergenerational trauma from false urban legends (Halloween candy) affecting parenting practices for 50+ years based on single incidentLack of local law enforcement infrastructure in remote areas correlating with higher vulnerability to vigilante actionComment section escalation patterns showing real-time radicalization from concern to violence planningDeletion of incriminating social media posts post-incident as communities attempt to distance themselves from mob participation
Topics
Social Media Misinformation and Vigilante JusticeMob Mentality in Isolated CommunitiesLaw Enforcement Gaps in Remote AreasMurder-for-Insurance SchemesUrban Legends and Public ParanoiaFacebook as Town Meeting in Rural AlaskaPlea Bargaining and Cooperation IncentivesSentencing Disparities in Group ViolenceAge of Consent and Predatory Behavior AllegationsCyanide Poisoning and Product TamperingDeath Row Inmate Hierarchies and Social OstracismIndigenous Rights and Alaska Native HistoryFirst Degree vs Second Degree Murder Prosecution StrategyPremeditation vs Heat of Passion in Criminal LawCommunity Response to Perceived Child Endangerment
Companies
Facebook
Platform where unverified allegations about Lincoln Petrovich were posted, escalating to 300+ violent comments and mo...
Texas State Optical
Employer of Ronald O'Brien, the candy poisoner, where he was suspected of theft and about to be fired before the murder
Second Baptist Church
Organization where Ronald O'Brien worked as deacon and choir member, providing cover for his community standing befor...
IG (Investment Platform)
Sponsor offering commission-free stock trading and tax-free ISA accounts with flexible withdrawal options
People
Lincoln Petrovich (Bingo)
80-year-old Klawock resident killed by three young men after social media allegations of inappropriate behavior towar...
Blaze Andrew Diltz
21-year-old who broke into Petrovich's trailer and participated in beating; pleaded guilty to second-degree murder, s...
Moses Scott Blanchard
21-year-old identified as most aggressive attacker; admitted to continuing assault to prevent identification; awaitin...
Gonzalo Sanchez
17-year-old with minimal participation in beating; charged as adult; expected to receive lightest sentence of the three
Ronald Clark O'Brien
Optician who poisoned his 10-year-old son Timothy with cyanide-laced pixie sticks for $100,000 life insurance; execut...
Timothy O'Brien
10-year-old child who died within an hour of consuming cyanide-poisoned pixie stick on Halloween 1974
Elizabeth Petrovich
Alaska Native who testified before territorial legislature in 1945 for fishing rights; featured on U.S. currency in 2...
Frank Petrovich
Uncle of victim; served as Klawock mayor and Alaska Territorial House member; advocated for native and rural interest...
John Petrovich
Croatian immigrant (b. 1860) who settled in Klawock in 1876 as skilled net maker; fathered 16 children with three Tli...
John Barrymore
Stole totem pole from abandoned Tlingit village of Tuxican in 1931; pole was returned 85 years later in 2015
James Petrogallow
Co-host of Small Town Murder podcast presenting the Klawock murder case and Halloween candy poisoning story
Jimmy Wiseman
Co-host of Small Town Murder podcast providing commentary and analysis on the cases presented
Quotes
"Because it was on Facebook. So on Facebook I figured someone must have added it."
Blaze DiltzDuring police interrogation about motivation for attack
"If he survived, he's probably going to be able to identify me. So I should kill him."
Moses BlanchardDuring police interrogation, admitting to continuing assault
"My uncle has been killed over gossip."
Lincoln Petrovich's nieceFacebook post after murder
"I hope that for anyone who's ever done that, meaning spreading information, misinformation online, that this is a wake up call."
JudgeDuring Blaze Diltz sentencing
"There is zero. It's his own kid. He's got a bunch of death row cases of a random, some house handing out poison candy."
James PetrogallowDiscussing Ronald O'Brien case and urban legends
Full Transcript
Hello everybody and welcome back to Small Town Murder Express! Yay and choo choo! Oh yay indeed Jimmy! Yay indeed! My name is James Petrogallow, I'm here with my co-host. I'm Jimmy Wiseman. Thank you folks so much for joining us today on another absolutely crazy Halloween edition of Small Town Murder Express. We have some good stuff here. This is wild too because we're watching the news, it'll make sense later, but we're keeping an eye on news to see because it ties into the story and it's happening today, so hopefully it'll happen before the end of the show. That doesn't make sense now, but it'll make sense when you hear the story. First of all, shut up and give me murder.com, get your tickets, virtual live show, still available, we did it last night and it was incredible. So much fun. The story was wild, it was really a great show, so don't miss it, you still can buy it for two weeks after the yesterday, two weeks from October 30th, it was great, we had silly costumes and it was just a blast. Huge shout out to all of you that participated, thank you. Thank you so much and I think there's a couple tickets left for Philly in December, that's it DC sold out. We'll be announcing new tour dates soon for next year and those will go on sale in December as well. Shut up and give me murder.com, keep you abreast of everything there. Definitely listen to our other two shows, Crime and Sports and Your Stupid Opinions and then get yourself Patreon. Do yourself a favor, P-A-T-R-E-O-N, Patreon.com slash Crime in Sports, just like that other show you should be listening to. That is where you get all the bonus material, anybody $5 a month or above, you're going to get everything we put out. 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Ad-free and you get a shout out at the end of the regular show. You can't beat it. The best value going and podcasting. That said, I think it's time to sit back everybody. It's all clear in the lungs and let's all shout. Shut up and give me murder. Let's do this everybody. Let's go on a trip shall we? We're going far today. We're going to Alaska all the way up to Alaska and this is like this time of year. This is like middle of nowhere. I mean, Alaska is the middle of nowhere. A lot of places. This place is crazy remote and weird. The only way to really get there is to stop at the port in a ship. Really. Is this a dry place? Do you know? What do you mean dry? A lot of places in Northern Alaska is dry. This isn't in Northern Alaska. It's Southern. It's definitely not dry, I think, from what they said. This is in far southeastern Alaska. Alaska goes all the way down kind of next to BC. It's all the way down in that little strip. It's like the middle of BC. It's on Prince of Wales Island in Southeast Alaska. South. It's crazy. It is. Okay. Here's the driving times. To Anchorage, 42 hours. That includes like five ferries and like all you can't get there. Four days. Just fly. I don't know what to tell you. To Seattle, 48 and a half hours. Four days. To drive to Seattle. And 41 hours and 45 minutes to Chugiaq, our last Alaska episode, episode 594, family murder spree, which was absolutely nuts that episode. I remember that was someone got in trouble and then they got mad at the person for getting them in trouble. So then they killed them and then someone killed somebody else. It was a crazy one. So this is like on that long peninsula area. That goes all the way down. Yeah. Exactly. It's not in a county. It's in a quote unorganized area. Unorganized. I don't even know what that means. That's a first. 644 episodes. Unincorporated nothing. Unincorporated. Unorganized. Unorganized. That's the official designation. 644 episodes. That's a first. We got a lot of paperwork to do still. Yeah. Area code 907, population here 805. Oh. I'm shocked there's that many people because it's the middle of nowhere. There was no, but in 1920, there was 19 people here. And then in 1930, there was 437 people here. And we'll talk about why. They vanished folks. They opened up a cannery here. So that was the big deal. The median household income here, $53,750 a month. A month. A month. I'm sorry, a year a month. That's a lot. Crushing it up there. I'm going. Median home cost here, $204,400. The motto here, clana keegduck. Okay. That's native. Don't know what that means, but not sure. A little bit of history. The first settlers here were Tlingit people who came from the northern winter village of Tuxican. Like Tuxedo, but Tuxican. They used it as a fishing camp for the summer and called it by a bunch of different names. And Klawak, the name of the town, is derived from the Tlingit name, Lawa, the man, which is the man who founded the community. That was his name. So there you go. Later on, they opened up a trading post here. Like Europeans came, opened up a trading post and a salmon sultry. Oh yeah, got a salt. Keep it fresh. Then in 1878, a San Francisco company opened up the first cannery in Alaska. If you're catching it all up there, might as well can it. So then they got a post office in 1882 once they had some commerce. 1929, the city was incorporated. In 1934, Congress awarded federal funding for expansion of the cannery. And that, on the condition that the community remains liquor free, by the way. Okay, dry. There you go. So that's why people came in the 30s because they had stuff. In 1931, John Barrymore, the actor. Drew's dad. No, 1931. Oh yeah, great, great. Probably great grandfather, but definitely that family, Barrymore family. Looted a totem pole. Oh, Barrymore. From the abandoned village of Tuxican. They stole it? He stole it, took it home. Sir. Put it in his living room in Palm Springs and was like, look at that. Don't do that. In 2015, the pole was returned to the Tlingit people. Oh, 80 years later? 95, 85, yeah. Reviews of this town. There's no reviews of this town, but I did find a couple people talking about it and comments on Facebook and stuff. And I found Clowalk, Clowalk, Clowalk. Wow. Is a very small town compared to Ketchikan. Jesus. Clowalk is K-L-A-W-O-L-K. Clowalk. That's the name of the town. I have a daughter that lives on Prince of Wales Island. Can't comprehend Clowalk having room for a ship docking there. Small place. Another person says Clowalk is basically a parking lot. Just got back from there in September and it was a complete waste of port, to be honest. There's a tiny artisan market, which is two stalls and the local grocery store. That's about it. So let's talk about that market. Here's a review here. Oh boy. Four stars. Best place to stock up for a week with groceries from Kaufman Cove. They have a good selection of meat and produce along with everything else you need. They have a cafe in the store with wings and some pre-made food. The featured salad was good tomato cucumber Greek salad. As a tourist, it is weird to not be able to get fresh fish, but understandable as everyone fishes for their own. That's okay. I learned how to flirt for filets. Whoa. Flirt for filets. A suckin' dick for a car. Oh, Jesus. That salmon is good up there. That's what it is. So there's no fresh fish, so four stars. Yeah, four stars. I couldn't get it. I had to jerk a guy off. I had to jerk off some salty sea guy for some halibut. Halibut fucking junk. Things to do. Well, Clowick has the oldest hatchery in Alaska. The industry enhances the runs of the salmon, including sockeye, coho, and steelhead. They're all good salmon. A sawmill and area logging operations are located here as well. They have a harbor, often used by tourists as a departure point for trips or boating exploration of the bays, inlets, and surrounding islands. Not a lot going on. This shit sounds cold. It's cold. It's rural. I mean, this is rugged shit here. This is real shit. Each February 16th, they sponsor the Elizabeth Petrotrovich Celebration, which is, we're mentioning this because it's important in the story, with ceremonies and a potluck honoring the anniversary of the passage of landmark legislation, which was to make sure to give the native people fishing rights and all that shit. She went to Congress in 1945. The city also sponsors a summer festival, the Celebration by the Sea. Let's talk about that. The Celebration by the Sea, Art Walk. It says, yeah, just basically they put art up when you walk around. Celebrate the sea with my picture. Pictures of the sea that I drew myself. And also there's Totem Park, which has 21 totem poles. Used to have 20, then got one back from John Barrymore. One of the largest collections in Alaska, 21 totem poles. It displays original and replica totems. I don't see replica. Give me originals. I think I don't fuck about a replica. From the old village of Tuxican, where he stole the thing. The city built a carving shed to house the poles during restoration, which can be visited. In 1998, the city commissioned the construction of a long house with a new totem pole. Oh. Wow. Okay. Not a lot to do there. That said, let's talk about some murder. Okay. Now, to give you an idea of how remote this place is. It's four days. If you, let's say something happens, you need to call for an ambulance. You better hope it's four days survival. Or a police officer. They have to take a boat to you. Stop it. So this is not easy. Oh my God. The winter nights are 17 hours long. Yeah. Of darkness. Yeah. Long nights. And also everybody knows everybody in this town. And this isn't a place people move to. This is a place where your family's been here for 10 generations or they haven't. And you don't come here. Yeah. Because there's no reason to be here. Otherwise it's four days drive. It's crazy. It's crazy. So everyone knows everybody and all that kind of thing. So let's go back very short amount of time. 2023. Oh, yeah. Just happened. I don't remember it. Absolutely. Barely. But it's there. Monday, March 20th, 2023. Let's talk about an old man. He's 80 years old. Yeah. Lincoln Petrotrovich. Uh-huh. I remember that name. Exactly. Okay. Some family here. Now everyone calls him bingo. Oh. Yeah. All right. He's a big winner down at the church there. He's got a dog. So bingo here. He's lived here his whole life. He lives alone in a trailer on Church Street. Yeah. Okay. Now his family very prominent to this area as Elizabeth is related to him. They got a whole day for her. It's a whole day every year. It's a big day. He lives alone. He's 80 years old, but he knows everybody still and talks to everybody and everything like that. But he lives alone, chops all his own wood. No, at 80. God, boy. Chopping wood sucks now. It's so hard. I hate it. It's the worst thing in the world. So at 80. If you're mad, it's a pretty good day. It'll work out. It's like punching a heavy bag. So on this particular Monday afternoon, he's outside chopping wood. Okay. So we'll go back around on him before we get to what happened here. Now his uncle Frank Petrovich is the former mayor of Clowick and served in the territorial legislature. Nice. He lived a long time. He lived 90 years. He is, this guy was a mix of Tlingit and Serbian. Which I don't even know how. Those are so far away from each other. Somebody got lost. Some Serbian came over here and this guy worked, Frank worked as a fisherman, a logger, a cannery operator, a merchant during World War II. He served in the U.S. Navy. Frank here served as mayor of Clowick, which, you know, basically he really pushed for the fishing stuff too here. He was elected to the Alaska Territorial House of Representatives in 1945, served in the Alaskan Senate from 51 to 59, advocating for rural and native interests during the push for statehood, because they weren't even a fucking state yet. He was the first vice president of the Alaska Constitutional Convention from 55 to 56, helping draft the document that transitioned them into statehood in 59. Later on, he was the Alaska State Senate president, by the way. So he did that too. 59, huh? Yeah, 59. And then, so anyway, he's related to Roy Petrovich and Elizabeth Petrovich. Roy is Frank's brother and was also born here and married Elizabeth Wanamaker, who is Elizabeth Petrotrovich, later on. She was a Tlingit woman from Petersburg, Alaska. They got married in 1933 and moved to Clowick early in the marriage, and that's where this family settled in. And they became active in local politics, as we know. Elizabeth went before the territorial legislature in 1945 to demand equality for the native Alaskans, because they didn't have the same rights, the same fishing rights and things like that, the stuff they needed. So she did that. February 16th is Elizabeth Petrovich Day in Alaska, and her image appeared on U.S. currency in 2020, making her the first Alaska native to be featured on Money. What is she on? I don't know. I don't know which currency. Maybe that's the dollar. Maybe a quarter, who knows. Might be that. Yeah, we put, is it Pocahontas? Is it Pocahontas that we put on there? No. No. Sacajawea. Who's Pocahontas? Pocahontas is made up. Yeah, right. Pocahontas is a dizzy character. The pause for me, by the way, was... Yeah, you blinked and shook your head. I turned sideways, I took my head like a dog and like blinked my eyes, and I was like, I thought it was a joke if it was a joke. Oh, he's serious. This is bad. I got to rescue him. It's that other one. Sacajawea. They put her on the coin. Maybe they put her on the coin. Yeah, the Alaskan one, maybe. Maybe. That's what I was thinking, too. Yeah. Now, um... All the colors of the wind, Jackson. That is amazing. Oh, man. So, this family's story began with John Petrovich, who was the Croatian immigrant. He was born around 1860, at the time part of Yugoslavia, and moved him. He was a fisherman. He took off in the sea, arrived in San Francisco, and when it was a real big boom time for whaling and sealing, clubbing seals and killing whales was huge. He was like, that's my spot. I'm a real piece of shit. This guy got in a shipwreck off the Seal Island and was rescued by locals, natives, and then made his way to Sitka, Alaska on a Russian ship. And just fucking stayed in Alaska. He was like, that's good enough. In 1876, during a canoe journey to Victoria, Canada, he stopped at the Tlingit village of Clowick and decided this will work and settle there permanently. That's it. He got into the whole community, worked as a skilled net maker. He made nets. I guess it takes skill. At the Salmon Canary, which was the only one operating in the area at the time. So big deal. He's the best nets in town. He married three Tlingit women over his lifetime, fathered 16 children. Jesus. That's what's spread so many Petroviches around, and then they have been doing well since. They've been prospering. Look at him. He's a bingo Lincoln here. He is obviously a descendant of the family here. Lincoln continued all this. He's born and raised here, deeply involved in the whole culture and the subsistence practices and everything like that. Even in 2009-ish, he was still fighting for native fishing rights. He joined a big lawsuit that sued the secretary of the interior and the secretary of agriculture for certain native fishing rights and things like that. I think I found who was named after, or not possibly who was named after. There's another Lincoln Petrovich who is born in Clowick and died in Clowick. He was born in 1919, died in 1942. So a young man. So that's interesting. I don't know if he was named after him because he was born the year after this guy died. It has to be a name after him. This guy died from quote, I found his death certificate. Accidental drowning under it in parentheses had been drinking. He got shitfaced and went and swam and died. That's pretty bad stuff. Shitface was like it's colder than I thought. This is bad. Back to March 23rd, 2023. Now old bingo is out chopping wood. Splitting wood. 80 years old. He's another best eyesight now. He's 80 from a distance. He sees somebody walk by with the female figure form that he sees. Even if you can't see well, you can see curves. You'll stop and beat. Well, he stopped to beat and he whistled at her. Oh, Lincoln. Lincoln. Yeah. I mean, he's 80. Cat calling? He whistled at her. Which is. For attention or like, you know what I mean? No, that one. That one. Yeah, look at you. But it's real weird from your yard. You don't cat call people from your yard. You can't call people from like the third story of a construction site or something. You don't cat call that either. I'm saying don't do it. But if you do. Do it from distance. That's a real well more normal way to fucking do it than from your yard while they walk by on your street. It's just weird. As you're hacking away at some spruce. To cat call your neighbor is just a weird thing to do. So she turned around and he could see. He went a little closer and he can see. Oh, she's not a full grown woman. This is a young woman. You asshole. Way younger than I thought. First of all, he's 80. So he thought he was whistling at a girl in her 20s. Come on, Lincoln. What are we doing, bingo? I know you're lucky in bingo, but this is not going to get that lucky. This is Z 72. This girl is 13. Sheesh, Lincoln. Lincoln. You can't be. No. He saw that once he, whatever, when she turned around and he got a good look at her. He saw she was way younger than he thought. But instead he was nice. He was trying to be friendly quote unquote with her and invited her inside for something to eat. Lincoln. I don't know what his intentions were. But that's weird. If you're a 13 year old girl, there's an 80 year old man inviting you in to eat. You're creeped out by it. You should be. Oh shit, you're so young. I'm sorry. Would you like a you? If you've been full of abuse, you will find that weird. You know what I mean? So come on in for some milk and cookies. I'm so sorry. It's so weird. She said no thank you and he shrugged it off and went back to his wood pile and kept shopping. She kept walking. So this girl, like I said, is 13. So she goes home and tells her uncle about it who contacts the Alaska State troopers over this, which not illegal. It seems a little, yeah, unless he, it's creepy. I don't know if it's like police. I don't know if a crime happened. You know what I mean? So it's just weird. So anyway, this whole afternoon is now spent with the Alaska State troopers coming in and talking to him, talking to the girl. And from there, it kind of blew up out of this. Really? It's a weird thing. It didn't come down to, hey, that girl was 13. Don't do that. And he's not saying, okay. Well, no, no, no, that's what happened here. For some reason, like the girl tells the story to the cops, then the family, her uncle starts telling a story to the cops and every story, it gets more and more. It gets worse and worse. He gets more aggressive and more whatever. So the officers interview Bingo and he admits to whistling at her. He said, I thought she was older and then she turned around and went, oh no. So he said, I did invite her in for food. I was just trying to be friendly. It's a small area. That's what we do around here. I know everybody. I was embarrassed. I didn't know what to do. Whatever. He denies that he followed the, because they said after a while, they started saying that he followed her and was threatening her with the ax. If an 80 year old man's following you with an ax, just walk a slightly faster. You're fine. Take a step. Number one. But it's still, if an 80 year old man was trying to come out of a 13 year old girl with an ax, obviously that's horrible. So, but there's no proof of that. And the original story was not that. So basically the troopers determined that no crime had occurred. And 2023, there's some ring doorbell footage somewhere. It's got to be, right? I don't even know if that's gotten here yet. We're waiting on the ship to come in with all the ring doorbells so we can get them. We've heard tell a mini-disc. Oh, they got, oh boy. I hear there's a thing you can put in your pocket and it plays a tape to headphones right on your head. It's wild. Audio cassette. It's amazing. The quality on it. Now, so he says no crime occurred, but does advise the family. If you're that worried about it, you can get a restraining order. That way he was not allowed to yell at her or talk to her or do anything anymore and she should not walk by his house probably. We'll call it a day. So that's the afternoon. Everybody goes home. Everything seems settled basically. You don't whistle at 13 year old. Stay away from the old man, whatever, back to your respective corners. Okay. Now, that night, it gets crazy. It got worse. It gets crazy because her family starts posting on Facebook about it. What? And I'll tell you something. If there is one thing on social media that people like to really, really make sure that people know it's that they hate pedophiles. They really want you to know that. Boy are people against that. We get it. And we all are against it. The thing, can you imagine, James, just being... If you have to say it, it's... I'm the worst would be... Being confused with maybe supporting it. I mean, you gotta really... Gotta be vocal. Love people that know us. What side I'm on. I've seen people in t-shirts. I just saw... This was this week. I saw a man that I unfriended him that was, I assume, one of our listeners. I hope you're listening, weirdo. That actually posted he was dead serious. I'm putting together a team to go after pedophiles. Oh my God. I called police. He said, no, no, you know, DM me, no bullshit, no, I'd like to help. This is real. We're gonna track these people. You better not. I'm on board, but tons of can't wait. Oh my God. Be a cop, you stupid asshole. Stop it. Stop with the vigilante bullshit. You're dumb. You don't have the investigative talent skills or resources to know what's true and false to go after people. You don't. And there's laws that you're not allowed to utilize records like that to assault them. We would all love to beat pedophiles. I wish they didn't exist. Love it. I would love to beat the shit out of that. It'd be great. But that's not how the world works. We can't live in a world like that. Find a man who liked children. What if you make a mistake? That's the problem. What if you get his twin brother? Yeah. Or what if someone mistake? There's so many ways. So many ways. So much to go wrong here. It's bad. What if that's not even the man? Yeah. Like imagine if when the people walked in, Chris Hansen came with a folding chair and fucking bashed him in the side of the head. You know what I mean? It'd be like, this is crazy. We don't even know what happened. So anyway, this Facebook post comes out describing the incident and saying, you know, I'm gonna say, posting this guy is quote, sexually interested in young girls. So now you have said he's a pedophile to the whole area. In this area, there's not a lot of news. There's not a lot of anything. Facebook is the local, you know, the town meeting, basically. So by the end of the night, everybody in town has seen this. They're commenting, comment section, all violent threats. Let's get him. We should go get him. This is bullshit. We need frontier justice. I mean, that's all that's on here. It's everybody saying, let's go kill him. We got to stop. This, I mean, this just happened. This just happened. This is what I'm saying. So this spreads through the community. By the end of the night, everybody in town thinks bingo is a pedophile and they want to murder him. God damn. Okay. Now this is crazy. We don't know who made the original post on Facebook, but it really took off and went nuts. We do know the girl who's the original 13 year old girl was not the one who posted it. That we do know. Good, because she's not even allowed on Facebook. No. Well, 13 year old, I think. Are you? I think 13 is the cut off. I think so. I'm pretty sure. So, and the story was more embellished on there too. Of course. It had a lot of basically, you know, drool dripping from his fangs as he said, get over here, my dick needs some rubbing. So much pre-cut. Yeah, so much. I'm standing in a puddle. So that's what happened. The post says he's a predator, she's a victim and we need to defend this girl and defend all the young girls of our town by gritting ourselves at this pedophile. Are you a father? Handle it yourself. Yeah, go over there and knock on the fucking door and talk to them. Why do you need 40 fucking people? They gotta have a... Go have a chat with the guy. Because they're not going to do anything. They just want to have a mob. Right. People love to have a mob. So sick. Why don't you just be a tough guy and do it yourself, you fucking pussy? Go to the comments section, someone should deal with him, that way he won't do it again. We need to protect our own. These are all quotes from here. It's bonkers. In a world of noise and uncertainty, IG is the investment platform that backs you. Take a reflexable stocks, ISA, which gives you the freedom to withdraw funds any time and replace them in the same tax year, all without losing your £20,000 tax-free allowance. And if that's not enough, pay no commission on your stock shares and ETFs when you invest with IG. IG. Trade, invest, progress. Your capital's at risk, other fees may apply, tax treatment depends on individual circumstances and is subject to change. So that night, still, we're 1.30 in the morning now. Late that night. Still going. This has happened 12 hours ago. Wildfire. Okay. There's people walking in the street. Yeah. Moses Scott Blanchard is one of them. He's 21 years old. All these people are native to this area. He's on vacation or moved here from St. Louis. That didn't happen. They're all born and raised here. Got a brand new position. Yeah. Blaze, Blaze, B-L-A-I-S-E. Cowboy name. Blaze Andrew Diltz, D-I-L-T-S. That's just a bad name. That's terrible. Diltz. He's 21. We also have Gonzalo Sanchez, who's 17, walking in this group with them is the 13-year-old girl from today. Why is it? It's 1.30 a.m. on a Monday night. This is not the summer. Why is it 21-year-old? Is it 21? Why are 2.21-year-olds and a 17-year-old even knowing a 13-year-old? They get it's a small town, but why are they hanging out at 1.30 in the morning? Why don't they have her out? What's going on? Why are any of these people walking at 1.30 in the morning? As far as I'm concerned, those 21-year-olds are just as bad as the 80-year-old. Worse. Yeah. They're out at 1.30 in the morning with her. And also with two children and a 17-year-old here too. So I don't get that. So they're walking on a trail and they pass near Bingo's trailer. And the girl says she's scared to walk past the trailer. And Blanchard here, Moses and Blaze here, Blanchard and Diltz, they tell her, don't worry, we're with you. We can go right up to that trailer. So they approach the trailer. Why? Well, we'll find out why. They approach the trailer. Right away, you're looking for trouble at this point. And they are looking for trouble. They're not looking to just look in the trailer. The Diltz guy, Blaze, punches through the trailer window and breaks it open, then kicks in the door. Now there's a crime. Now we got crime finally. So the three young men enter, leaving the 13-year-old outside. They enter, Bingo must be a deep sleeper. Because when they enter, they find Bingo a sleep, sound asleep on a mattress on the floor. He's an 80-year-old. He probably looks like he's already dead. And he was chopping woods. He's got to be tired. He's crazy. Exhausted. So he's 80 years old and unconscious, obviously. They just attack him. They start punching and kicking this man in his sleep. He wakes up during it, obviously, while he's being punched and kicked. Then they get bored punching and kicking him. They're beating him. They get bored, so they grab some of the logs that he had cut earlier in the day that were by the fireplace and start beating him with the logs. Beating him with logs. Then they get bored with that. His logs. This is exhausting. They're hard. We get splinters. This is crazy. So then they grab a folding chair. Yeah. Extreme wrestling style here. ECW, ECW. Start fucking beating him with folding chairs. Then there's a milk crate. They start beating him with as well, a wooden milk crate. Then finally, they find fluorescent bulbs. No. Yeah. They barb wire around the sides of the room. Cut promos on each other. Assholes. No. Then they grab, this is horrible, they grab a 15-pound cannonball-shaped decorative thing that he had and start beating him with that. He's got the head and face. Beating him about most of these, most of everything is directed toward his head and face, by the way. This is nothing in the body. Now, as this beating is happening inside, and this is going on and on and on and on, of someone drives by, standing in the yard at 1.30 in the morning. Imagine how dark it is out there, first of all. The passing motorist, we never find out who this is, but he hunks a whole bunch, repeatedly hunks the horn as he passes by the house. Don't know why, don't know because they saw something look wrong in the trailer or what it is, they didn't stop, they didn't call the cops at the time later on, but they hunk and hunk and hunk. This freaks out the three inside. They hear all this hunking and fucking run, because they think, oh shit, what's going on here? They leave Lincoln, ol' bingo in a pile of viscera on the floor and run outside. They run from the trailer, they take off down the street, at that point two more juveniles, under 18 people are driving by. Why are all these kids out in the middle of the night? What's happening? On a Monday night? What, what, what, March? School, motherfucker. School. Go to bed. Is it spring break? What's going on? Something, but anyway, they still shouldn't be out at 1.30 in the morning at 13 years old. It's still frozen in Alaska. Oh it is. Do they have spring break? I don't know. Spring breaks in August. They have frozen breaks, ice break they have for you. So two other kids show up and they hop in with those kids and leave. Leave the area. Someone called 911. Not those guys. We assume maybe the passing motorists called 911 because by 3 a.m. Alaska state troopers arrive. This is by the way 90 minutes after the 911 call. They called 911. An hour and a half later they got there. It took them an hour and a half to get there. That's how long it took to get there. And we'll find out why by the way. That's not normal for the area. They find Petrovich with severe head and facial trauma, blood on multiple objects, signs of being beaten repeatedly with multiple heavy objects and he dies on the way out. He doesn't make it to the hospital. He was barely breathing when they got there. It took 90 minutes because they had to get here from Craig Alaska which is crazy. Apparently Clowick had no local police, no ambulance. 90 minutes it took. And the reason why it took that long was in January two months earlier the police chief died unexpectedly. And they never hired anybody else. So they don't have a police force. They don't even have monster.com. Chief died. Get on LinkedIn guys. Figure it out. Put a fucking badge on somebody. Christ. So it took 90 minutes and it's basically unpoliced this area. So they finally. That's why kids are out all night because no one cares. No one gives a shit. You can do whatever you want. So they get to the crime scene here. The broken window is looks like where they first came in. They show it kicked in door. Like okay that's aggressive. Blood on all these objects. The mattress on the floor is covered in blood as well here. It's bad. They find all the different weapons that they've put. This one obviously was users blood spatter everywhere. Because you're beating somebody. It's throwing. It's all over the place. The autopsy shows the cause of death being blunt force trauma. Severe head and facial injuries consistent with being beaten by multiple objects. Wow. Now they said that the complete lack of defensive wounds. Because he was asleep. And then he was unconscious. Right. He was sleeping. Then he just started getting beaten. Never got to even put his hands up. You don't even have. Just block anything. Yeah. You don't even know where it's coming from. Nothing. And then you're unconscious. Because then they started beating him with objects too. So they said the definite facial and head focus. Wow. That is fucking wild. They said that the violence escalated as it continued. He started out with fists and then moved on to the heavier stuff. They said basically it's the overkill in the nature of the injuries. Wounds upon wounds. No need to beat him this badly. Probably didn't need the 15 pound cannonball. Probably wouldn't have died anyway. He's 80. You can beat an 80 year old to death pretty easily. Pretty easy. Pretty easy. They can just fall down and die. Yeah. Like that's, I mean it doesn't take much. Oh they fall down, break a hip and then it's just like from there a week later they're gone. It's from your hip. So they said even if help arrived immediately he probably wouldn't have made it anyway. A lot of blood loss, a lot of trauma to the brain. They said it wouldn't have happened. They said it's better this way basically. Now the investigation, they didn't know what to do. We got a scene. We got no witnesses. We got a middle of nowhere crime scene. Yeah. We got a mess on our hands. Yeah. We don't know. So they had no fucking idea. They start investigating. The good part is in a small town like this everybody knows everything. So that helps. And they immediately find on Facebook all these posts. It's about how much hatred everybody has. They literally just looked them up on social media and was like wow a lot of people hate this guy. 300 comments. We got 300 suspects. Yep. So they preserved the Facebook post and its comments for later, do all the screenshots and they're like holy shit they could watch it being, oh they said the comments went from concern of oh I hope she's okay and oh we gotta keep an eye out and watch the kids to anger to then rage, then calls for violence, then plans for violence and putting it together. You could just watch a mob mentality in real time. It's fucking insane. It's wild. So the next day, March 22nd, because they investigate all the Tuesday, the 21st, Wednesday, the 22nd of March, they locate the 13 year old. They realize that's where this all came from. So they talked to her. She confirmed she was walking with a group of kids, a group of men I should say. She said we did, we were walking, we did pass by Bingo's house and I said I was scared. She said then they all went inside and I stayed outside so I don't know what happened. But I do know who it was. It's this guy, this guy, it's Blaze and Moses and Gonzalo so you should talk to them. We talked about, you know, we fled. So they get Blaze Diltz in there. This is fucking amazing. This is 2025, the 2020s in one little nutshell here. He said well there was a Facebook post about Petrovich approaching a 13 year old girl and chasing her with an axe. Okay. So they said, so they said well, did you just see it on Facebook? How do you know that's true? And he said no. So they said why would you do that? You don't even know it's true. Why would you do it? And he said quote, because it was on Facebook. Oh boy. This is dangerous. Because it was on Facebook. So on Facebook I figured someone must have added it. I gotta fix it. Someone must have added it. No, someone just talked shit. There's monkeys on the street in New Jersey. All over the place. God damn it. It's crazy. So it was on Facebook. So they said so you went over there and you did this. He was like yeah, fucking did the right thing, right? They were like, hey dummy. Did you call him for medical help? No. Did you even attempt to verify any of these allegations before the attack? And he said no. She was worth it. It was true. It's gotta be true. Must be true. She said she was scared. Why would you do this? And it's just, well everyone said it was a good idea. Why wouldn't I? So then they bring Moses Blanchard in and he said, yeah I knew about the Facebook post. First of all, Dilt said he didn't even see the Facebook post. Really? That's the other thing. He just heard about it. He heard. He heard tell of it. He didn't even see the post. I don't have internet. Literally, Moses Blanchard saw the post and told him about it. And he goes, we'll get him. So he was like, really? That son of a bitch. So he didn't even see the post. He heard about the post. That was on Facebook and said, well that's gotta be fact. So Moses said, Moses Blanchard said, yeah I know about the Facebook post. I saw it. Yeah. I was mad about it. He said, yeah, he participated in the beating. He did say that he thought that Petrovich definitely needed medical attention. This is the dumbest thing to say in an interrogation. He said, but then I thought about it. And I said, if he survived, he's probably going to be able to identify me. So I should kill him. Which is the exact thing that it was like, don't say the last part out loud. Jesus Christ. And then I was like, no witnesses. What are you doing, man? You fucking dummy. So I thought it was better to let him die. At that point, they were like, holy shit. He also says that the other, the 17 year old Sanchez, his involvement was minimal. Yeah. Said he put a couple shots in, but he wasn't the main. He gave us stuff. It was me and Blaze that were really doing it. And then Blaze got a little tired and I really, I was gung ho, Moses said. So both of these idiots are arrested. Oh wow. They're held at the Craig police department and their bail is set at $600,000 each, which they don't have. Now the charges are first degree murder, second degree murder, manslaughter, first degree burglary with both of them. We'll explain that. What'd they say? We'll explain it. March 31st, now a week later, they arrest Gonzalo Sanchez. They got him. He is basically both guys, everybody's statements, both of them say he didn't participate very much in it. He participated in it, but he wasn't the main pusher. And if he's 17 and they're both 21, he can't stop them from doing that. They're not going to listen. I was 17 year old. Hey, junior in high school, shut the fuck up. I'm allowed to buy beer. Go away, not here, but other places. If I go to St. Louis one day. It's coming. Yeah. So now he is charged as an adult though. Okay. He, the state law requires adult charges for murder if the person's over 16. His bail is also set at $600,000. He is charged with second degree murder, manslaughter, first degree burglary. So they take the first degree off for him. And going nowhere. Going nowhere. Now they end up updating the bail as they often do here. You can either, it's $500,000 cash bond or some sort of appearance bail you can do. They have different system up there. Anyway, they're all held together. So in there, now the prosecution has a strategy with these charges and that is to give the jury options. First degree murder required proving premeditation. So what if you don't prove that? So the only reason they were there was because of the Facebook. So it has to be premeditation. They didn't just wander by his house. No. Second degree means intent without planning. I tried, meant to kill him, but I didn't plan to kill him. It just happened. We brought nothing. We brought nothing. We didn't bring weapons or anything. Manslaughter is just reckless disregard. You can care. Burglary charges are easy. Obviously they've undeniably said and admitted to breaking into the home. So that's easy. That's an easy one. Now first degree murder in Alaska is intentional causing of death with premeditation. Maximum 99 years for that there. They do it based on years. Second degree murder, like we said, is heat of passion type of deal or whatever. That is maximum 99 years also. Okay. So it doesn't matter. Really not a much of a distinction in terms of except for they'll probably give you less because it's second degree. Manslaughter is reckless causing of death and a lesser sentence range by far. It's like from like five years on. So there's a lot of, a lot of. A lot of weighing. That's a lot in the judge's hands to figure out what it is. What happens? Yeah. Did you bash his fucking skull into the cannonball or did you get in a bar fight? Did you bounce him off your hood of your car? Yeah. Yeah. When you were drunk or something. So either way, that's what they're doing. Now the bingo's niece makes a Facebook post saying quote, my uncle has been killed over gossip, which is pretty true. Not wrong, but don't do this. And this completely divides the community because some people are like, yeah, this is bullshit. And some people are like, good, kill them pedophiles, even though we don't approve of anything. They divide it over pedophilia and non pedophilia. And non pedophilia. Well, they're divided over vigilante justice and, and figuring out what happened first. Right. You know what I mean? That's, that seems interesting. So also for this, people start deleting their comments on the post. I don't want to be a part of this. Disappearing comments. Poof, poof, poof. Wow. And now the other teens who picked them up on the road, that's a, you know, after the fact charge there, they are not charged as adults. They made cooperation agreements and told all they knew and their names are sealed by the court. So we never find out who they are. They are part of the deal. They made just a couple of vague dipshits out there. Couple of 130 AM assholes. So they have very different versions. Okay. The, basically the difference between first and second degree murder is the prosecution and defense. Yeah. Uh, prosecution argues that breaking in showed planning. If he was out in the yard, it would have been different. Right. But you went after him. You went into his house. What were you going to do? Well, yeah, show up and break in and go, don't touch young girls. Yeah. You didn't even wake him up. Now the defense is that this was spontaneous mob action. It was a mob atmosphere where they got a whole, it was, everybody gassed each other up and it was. It fed on it. Now three people isn't really a mob. So 10 is a mob. Three you can go, Hey, Bob and Carl, shut the fuck up for a minute. What are we doing here? You asked all it's different. If there's 10 people, you can't get everyone's attention. There's two other people you can talk to them. So the defense couldn't claim innocent. So they sought to say these are young men who thought they were doing the right thing. They're not hardened criminals. You know, they're nice kids and all that kind of thing. They thought they were protecting children. All three on trial together. Ah, no, no, no, no, just separate. But they're all being charged. They were wrong, but their intentions weren't evil. You know what I mean? That's what you're saying. I don't know. You bashed, you focused on the head. You were destroying this person. You beat, you took whatever fucking items you could find around the house. Around his house. Just shit to beat him with. Beat him with his own shit. What if we beat him with this? That'd be like, that's crazy. You beat him and look. And you know, they were all excited while they were doing it. Because they think they're doing the right thing. They think they're doing the right thing and they're not. So May 1st, 2025, Blaze Diltz makes a plea deal. Oh, what a pussy. Domino to fall. Yep. He changes his plea from, from not guilty to guilty, except a second degree murder charge and the burglary charge as well here. He says he will cooperate with the prostitution. Prostitution. I'm cooperating with him too. Who wouldn't? He's going to cooperate with the prostitution. I paid for this. Take your dick out. Okay. There it is. I'm cooperating. Put it in my mouth. There you go. There you go. All right. And he will testify against co-defendants if necessary as well. What a little bitch. Yeah, he's the little bitch. He's the, he cracked it. Not even the 17 year old. That's who you'd expect. The adult man. The adult 21 year old man. Big adult man. You little bitch. June, well now it puts a lot of pressure on the other two. Because he's going to testify against you and blame it all on you. We did it. Shit. That's not a me. Mostly him. That's a you. Yeah. That's what it's going to be. Who? The guy sitting right there in that chair. Yeah. That's him. So June 7th a month later, Moses Blanchard decides he needs to plead too. Ah, you little bitch. You've got no choice. Big tough guys. Yep. So he pleads guilty to second degree murder, first degree burglary. He is identified by everyone as the most, the aggressor. Even he said, even when everyone else stopped, I thought we should kill him. Way to go Batman. And the reason is because he could identify me. So he's the dumbest of the group, obviously. He's called them an eight and witnesses. So the mitigators and aggravators for both because there's a big sentencing range. So they're really trying to, it could be huge or not huge. So they said, obviously the aggravators are an 80 year old man. The fact that he was sleeping, you gave him no chance to defend himself. Three on one on a sleeping 80 year old. Real tough. Yeah. The fact that they kept beating him. There was no remorse. There was no, Hey, his skull is broken. Maybe we should stop. They definitely didn't ask and try to help him or get medical attention and they ran away and tried to hide. So the prosecution wants maximum sentences on mitigating factors are they're young. Not that young. 21 ain't that young. It's young, but he's figured it out. He knows what's wrong. You know, it's up. Yeah. The whole community was up in arms. So he just got a quad swept up in the whole mix here. And for, he believed that they were protecting children and Dilt's cooperated and they made guilty pleas and they have no prior criminal records. So come on. Yeah. So September 22nd, 2025. A month ago, uh, as Dilt's is sentencing, the state's theory based on a review of the evidence is that co-defendants, Gonzalo Sanchez and Blaze Dilt's ceased their attack while Lincoln Petrochrovich was still alive. Moses Blanchard continued the assault. He was not the most culpable. This is the prosecution, by the way, saying this, trying to help him out. And they, and they emphasized cooperation with law enforcement. He helped out a lot. He gave us all the stuff. He's a little bitch, your honor. Look at him. He's a little bitch. Look at this kid. You could kick his ass, your honor. I'm telling you, 75. Just don't fall asleep. One on one. You could take him, I think. The defense argument is that the, like, they didn't see the rumors online directly. They heard about them through others and gassed them all up and, and that they didn't intend to kill Petrochrovich. I can't disagree, your honor. When you grab a 15 pound cannonball, you're planning on killing somebody. That's death and that they expressed remorse. So Dilt's here. The judge says, I hope that for anyone who's ever done that, meaning spreading information, misinformation online, that this is a wake up call. Well, we're glad that's over. Oh, wasn't that a weird time in our lives? Sometimes we're all past that. I'm so happy everything online is true now. That's great. Not everybody bets every rumor they ever read. I'm so thrilled about that. Fucking shit. He said, there are people out here out there who may heed your words and take them in a direction that you didn't intend when you posted it. You blaze Dilt's, you suck. May fuck off. 40 years in jail. But 25 years suspended. What? 15 year minimum he must serve and then he's up for parole. 36. 36. That's fucking bullshit. That's wild, followed by 10 years of probation. Who cares? Whatever. Now, what the fuck? That's crazy because yeah, they want to bang Moses Blanchard the hardest. They want to give him the max because he's the guy who was cold-blooded here. Now Moses' sentencing is today and it hasn't, fuck it hasn't happened. He hasn't done it yet? I don't know the time difference in Alaska or whatever, but he's not sentenced yet. God damn it. Shit. Well anyway, the defense is saying no premeditation, social media, all that kind of shit. But he's definitely, he's going. He's probably going to get the max, I would think, because he admitted to, when he said I killed him so he couldn't identify me, he bought himself the max. There are four hours behind New York. There's four hours. It's going to be so, fuck, god damn it, these, catch up you fuckers. Well then somebody's got to like write it on a salmon and put it in the sea for somebody else to get it and put a message to the bottle. I don't know how the fuck news is disseminated from there. This is a salmon's mouth. Yeah, telegraph has to be banged out, worst code. I'm not sure how it works. Kippering. Oh my god. So that is horrible. And Sanchez is going to get the least amount of time. I think he might get like mostly everything suspended basically. Wow. He's not guilty too. He watched a man die. Yep, he's getting nothing. He's going on November 21st, but like I said, he's going to get the least. Both guys said he barely did anything. He didn't even really want to do it. We kind of talked them into it basically. That kid got 15 years. 15. Blanchard couldn't get nothing. He could get 20. Oh no, Moses, no, he's the one that really. They really hate him. Like the prosecution was saying Diltz cooperated. He did everything we needed him to. This one's only cooperating because we told him that the other one's cooperating. Oh, Moses isn't cooperating. No. He just pled guilty. Oh. Because he didn't want to get found first degree. So he, and he had no choice because Diltz was going to testify against him, but the prosecution is saying this is the guy who killed him. He did the final blows. He killed him so he would identify him. He's the bad guy. He's the bad guy they're saying. And so then the other kid, they're like, he's just a kid, whatever, give him minimum. So they don't think he's going to get 99 maybe? They think he's probably going to get 99. Everybody's been saying that. So we'll see. We'll give you an update on it next week. I guarantee you three minutes after we stop this, it'll happen. It makes me so angry. Swear to God, the code will definitely be done by then. This will be perfect. I was like, it'll be perfect. 2.30 in the afternoon, they got nothing. I was like, this will be the first hot off the press. It just happened now. No, it didn't work out. So anyway, he will be sentenced for that. Now we have a little bit of time left and I did this on purpose. All right. Okay. Did this on purpose because I wanted to talk about a little bonus murder here. The only actual Halloween candy death. Ever ever. This goes along with the social media thing because urban myths and urban legends. There's so many needles in it, James. The needles. Right. We were. We were kids. Razor blades. God damn Snickers you bit into. What did you think the chance of a razor blade was? 60, 70%? It was shaking. It was such and go, you'd always wins. You bite into it like at the end slow and look at it. I remember breaking candy like a peanut butter cup, like breaking it up to make sure there's no razor blades in it. Needles, razor blades. But our mothers were crazy about it. Check all, oh my God, check the candy. If we had a metal detector sheet or ran that thing through it five times. What are the chances that you take a bite of a candy and there's a razor blade in there and you fucking bleed? You miss it. You just swallow it. What are the chances you bleed? Also, if the package is closed, it's probably not a razor blade. Unless they have a Reese's packaging factory in there. We're probably okay. You ever tried to re-refold that foil? It's impossible. It doesn't work. It's impossible. It's true. Twisting it with the kiss thing coming out of the top. I can't get the kiss thing straight. Yeah, you can't fold that. Sticking out the side there. What the hell is going on? So we've all heard about this and we've all heard about how dangerous it is and every one of us has searched the kids candy and we've all had our candy searched as kids and we did all of this and it's all complete bullshit. 100% complete bullshit. What happened? There is one case in American history of tainted Halloween candy. What was it? That killed somebody. And it is Ronald Clark O'Brien. He is known as the Candy Man, obviously. Now, O'Brien lived in Deer Park, Texas. I think Pasadena, Texas is where this happened, had a son named Timothy, daughter named Elizabeth and he had a wife too. Did he poison his own kid? We'll talk about it. Oh, you fucking asshole. Worked as an optician at Texas State Optical in Houston. He was at Deacon at the Second Baptist Church where he sang in the choir and ran a local bus program. So Halloween 1974 took his kids out trick-or-treating in Pasadena with a neighbor and the neighbor's two kids. Now they said they went to a house where the person at the house didn't answer the door, so the children grew impatient and ran ahead to the next home while he stayed behind. I'm going to fucking wait this guy out. I'm kidding this goddamn candy. I smell candy. I ain't leaving. I ain't leaving until I get that snickers. He caught up with the group and produced five humongous pixie sticks. These are the 21-inch pixie sticks. Oh, the long plastic. Those big fucking giant ones. They were in cardboard but paper back then. Were those long ones in plastic? Now they are. Oh, okay, that kind of was. Back then it was. 74. Paper or whatever. So he said, yeah, the guy at the house eventually came out and he gave us these. He got it for one for everybody, all the kids. So at the end of the night, he gave the neighbors two kids a pixie stick and one each to his kids and he went home. He gave the fifth pixie stick to a 10-year-old boy who he knew from church on the way home. Hey, you want one of these? So before bed, his kid, Timothy, said, can I eat some of the candy please? And they said, yeah, okay, fine. Just need one for bed. He said, I want the pixie stick because it's the biggest candy, obviously. He couldn't get, it was weird. He couldn't get the, he's trying to put it in his mouth. He couldn't get the powdered candy out. It wouldn't come out. It was like stuck in there. Oh, there's a heart in there? It kind of clumped up. So dad had to helpfully help him loosen the powder so he could get it in himself there. He said, ew, this tastes bitter. Gross. This isn't a good pixie stick. So he gave his kid Kool-Aid to wash it down, wash it away. And immediately Timothy began to have stomach pains and started vomiting and convulsing. He said, he claims that while he was holding Timothy in his arms, he went limp. He was vomiting. He went limp in his arms and died and root to the hospital. Less than an hour after consuming the candy. Pixie sticks. So everybody freaked out in the community because someone poisoned. Oh my God. People, they were turning their candy over to the, people were coming with their kids, fucking McDonald's pumpkin buckets, giving them to the cops going, look through my candy. Make sure this isn't poisoned. It's poison. So they, there was no, they didn't suspect anybody at the time. In an autopsy revealed that it was a potassium cyanide. The kid was overloaded with it. So four of the five pixie sticks there, the fifth one he died, he died. They went to all the other kids with pixie sticks and luckily none of them had eaten the pixie stick yet. The fucked up part is the fifth child, the kid from church, they couldn't find the pixie. The cops called them and said, what'd you do with that pixie stick? So they, their kid was upstairs sleeping. They're like, oh my God, did he eat the pixie stick and go upstairs and die? So they ran upstairs and found the kid asleep holding the pixie stick. He couldn't get the staples that sealed it. Cause it's, this asshole stapled it shut. He couldn't get the staples done. So he fell asleep holding it. Fell asleep trying to get it open. Yup. That is crazy. He's so tired. Fucking nuts. The pixie sticks and the top two inches of each pixie, these pixie sticks were refilled with cyanide powder, then resealed with a staple. Wow. Right at the top. So that's where you need it. Um, wow. I contained, they said the, the pixie stick consumed by Timothy contained enough cyanide to kill two adults. Oh, damn it. Well, the other four candies had enough to kill three to four adults. Oh, he got the little dose. He got the little dose. Now, so they went to O'Brien and they said, where'd you get the pixie stick? Yeah. Where the fuck did those pixie sticks come from? And he said, I can't remember where they came from. Fuck. Oh my God. Which house did they come from? Damn it. What's going on? Then they start asking around and they find out that O'Brien and his neighbor only took their kids to homes on two different streets because it was raining a little bit. Oh. So like, well, you should be able to remember from two streets where you got the giant pixie sticks. Right. It's not just like a, you know, one of those fucking dum-dums or something. Nobody else has given these out. Who's given those out? So then they went to all of these houses and found out that none of them had given out pixie sticks. Not one. So they're like, okay. Now, O'Brien walked to the neighborhood with the police a whole bunch to find, well, maybe if we walk by it. So he led them to the house where no one answered the door. He claims that he was there waiting to catch up to the group and no one, he said that the owner didn't turn the lights on, but cracked the door open and just handed him out five pixie sticks. Five. Exact number. One adult is on your doorstep. Take these. You don't even say trick or treat. Yeah. You open the door and just stick your arm out with five pixie sticks. Like a bouquet. Yeah. A pixie stick. Get out. They said, so what did he look like? He said, I only saw his arm. Just stuck it out real, real crack in the door. Can you do a lineup of five arms with the pixie sticks? He said, well, what did an arm look like? He said, Harry. Oh, it's a Harry arm. You know, I don't know. It's a man. So, uh, the home was owned by a guy named Courtney Melvin, who was an air traffic controller and didn't get home from work till 11 o'clock on Halloween. Shaves his arms. And he was just a swimmer. Smooth. So they ruled him out as a suspect when over 200 people confirmed he was at work the whole time. He's at work. Then they found out that O'Brien was over $100,000 in debt, which is about almost $700,000 nowadays, and had a history of not having shit for work. In the preceding 10 years, he held 21 different jobs. Oh my God. When he was arrested at this time, he was suspected of theft at his job at Texas State Optical where he was about to be fired. His car had been, it was about to be repossessed. He had defaulted on several bank loans and his family home was in the process of being foreclosed on. He's about to be homeless. Then they found out that he had taken out life insurance policies on his children in the months preceding the death. About 700 grand? In January, he took out $10,000 life insurance policies on both his children. That's about 65 grand in today's money each. Then a month before, in September, he took out an additional $20,000 policies on both children. Despite the life insurance people going, why are you raising your kids life and what the hell is that about? In the days before the death, that week, he took out another $20,000 policy on each child. Stacked them up. The various policies told about $100,000, which is what he was in debt. That is wild. Now, the wife, the kid's mom said she didn't know shit about this. She didn't even know about the insurance policies. She said, I don't know if we had that. The morning, the next day after Timothy died, he had called the insurance company to talk about collecting on the policies he took out right away. Wow. Then they found out that he had visited a chemical supply store in Houston to buy cyanide shortly before Halloween. What the fuck? But he didn't purchase anything because he found out the smallest amount of cyanide that you could buy is five pounds. That's a shitload of cyanide. Because you're supposed to use it not to poison your children's candy. You're supposed to make a huge application on it. It's a totally different thing. They were like, this motherfucker, life insurance, he tried to buy cyanide, must have got him somewhere else. This is insane. That's wild. They believed that he only gave it the pixie six to the other kids because he thought maybe they would die too and it would cover everything up. It wouldn't be just his, just to focus on him. They'd have to focus on everybody. They continued to question him but he kept saying he was innocent. I just needed cyanide for other purposes. Yeah, I got a lot of rats. That week. Yeah, so many rats. My God. A rat problem around here is nuts. Thousands of them. Not enough for five pounds though. So this is wild. He ends up being convicted of murder and sentenced to death. Whoa. He killed his 10-year-old for insurance money. The deal was pixie six. That's what they should have deported him into the house. This is a scumbag. This is the worst. That's why I searched apples. This is why you can't get fucking candy without people freaking out because one asshole. Trying to murder both his kids. And that was the perfect timing for, you know, well before, 10 years before we were trick-or-treating to where it was just spread to paranoia at that point because one news story, one, and it was his own kidney for insurance. There is zero. It's his own kid. He's got a bunch of death row cases of a random, some house handing out poison candy. Enjoy his snickers. There's no razor blades in them. Now the fun part is when he's on death row, the chaplain who worked for the Department of Justice in Texas there said that O'Brien was, quote, shunned and despised by his fellow death row inmates. Oh, really? Even Ted Bundy had friends on death row. And he cut off teenagers' heads and had sex with them. He raped, decapitated teenagers. And he had friends. But this guy, he was called, quote, absolutely friendless because he killed his own kid, which makes it just so much worse. The inmates reportedly petitioned to hold an organized demonstration on his execution day to express their hatred of him. Good. Literally. The death row inmates were going to have a celebration to show how much they fucking hated him. Our kids out in the free world have to check their snickers because you're a piece of shit. You're a twat. For the next 40, 50 fucking years we're still doing it. March 31st, 1984, shortly before midnight is his execution, his last meal, everybody. Oh. You think you're getting that today? Here we go. T-bone steak. Really? Medium to well done. What a piece of shit. You fucking monster. He ruined steak. You monster. You, listen. Kill your kids all you want. Do your kids. No, don't kill your kids. But don't fucking destroy a perfectly good T-bone. Are you out of your mind? That filet was like leather. You're gonna have that. That's a bad, ah. You monster. They should have made him eat pixie steaks. You monster. They should have only untanked, just regular, that's shit. Until you're diabetes takes you. T-bone steak, medium to well done. French fries and ketchup. Whole kernel corn. Sweet peas. Medicine tomato salad with egg and French dressing. Ice tea. Sweetener. Saltines. Boston cream pie. And rolls. He got all of that? He fucking loaded up, man. Jesus Christ. And then they executed him by lethal injection. Your kid's last meal was your tainted ass pixie steak. Pixie steak. Piece of shit. Wow, what a scumbag. So there you go. That's why Halloween turned into the stressful mess it was. Because one guy's an asshole. But did that. One of his shorter stories so he could tell that. I don't want to tell the whole story because a lot of people have done it. 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