BravBros Podcast (Formerly Bros&Shows)

Who Doesn't Like Chicken & Waffles? (RHOA Full Recap)

61 min
Apr 15, 20263 days ago
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Summary

BravBros hosts recap Real Housewives of Atlanta Season 16 Episode 2, discussing cast dynamics, new housewife Kaye Michelle's authenticity, emerging conflicts between Portia and Kelly, and Kelly's Nana's Chicken and Waffles restaurant grand opening. The episode highlights strong cast chemistry and forward momentum, though Shamiah's attempts to rehash last season's drama threaten to derail the positive energy.

Insights
  • New housewife Kaye Michelle is establishing herself as a genuine, confident presence without manufactured drama, setting a high bar for cast integration
  • The cast's collective desire to move past last season is being undermined by Shamiah's insistence on maintaining old conflicts, creating isolation risk
  • Kelly's restaurant launch represents a significant personal and financial milestone post-divorce, with $100K+ debt paid down, making her a sympathetic figure
  • Portia's conflict-starting tactics (bringing up unproven allegations in public settings) are becoming predictable and losing credibility with the group
  • Cast members like Angela and Phaedra demonstrate that moving forward doesn't require ignoring past issues—it requires agreeing to disagree and refocusing energy
Trends
Reality TV authenticity premium: Newer housewives who present unfiltered personalities gain faster fan acceptance than those performing manufactured dramaPost-conflict resolution fatigue: Established reality TV casts are increasingly resistant to relitigating previous season drama, preferring clean slatesBlack representation in country music gaining mainstream reality TV platform coverage and celebrationSingle mothers in business facing disproportionate financial and emotional burden while building enterprises post-divorceHousewife franchise casting shift toward established entrepreneurs and business owners rather than lifestyle personalitiesGenerational aging visibility in long-running reality franchises creating emotional resonance when child cast members visibly matureStrategic friendship positioning: Housewives using selective support/absence at events as non-verbal communication tools
Topics
Restaurant Business Operations and Post-Divorce Financial RecoveryConflict Resolution Strategies in Ensemble CastsBlack History in Country MusicCosmetic Surgery Complications and Body AutonomyVegan Business Ownership and Lifestyle AlignmentReality TV Fourth Wall Breaking and Audience ConnectionBlended Family DynamicsFemale Entrepreneurship in Food ServiceFriendship Maintenance Across Competing LoyaltiesDating and Sexual Fluidity RepresentationGenerational Wealth and Family Financial SupportDivorce Impact on Business OperationsAuthenticity vs. Performance in Reality TelevisionRumor Management and Receipts CultureSupportive Cast Behavior as Narrative Tool
Companies
Nana's Chicken and Waffles
Kelly's restaurant business featured prominently; grand opening of Sandy Springs flagship location discussed extensively
Big Dave's Cheesesteaks
Pinky's husband Dave owns this Philadelphia-based cheesesteak franchise; discussed as example of power couple dynamics
Slutty Vegan
Pinky's established vegan restaurant business mentioned as reason hosts were familiar with her before casting
Pepsi
Wild Cherry and Cream flavor advertised in episode opening segment
MLB
Hosts discussed new stadium food offerings and potential for chicken and waffles as permanent menu item
Bravo
Network producing Real Housewives of Atlanta; hosts praise current season quality and production choices
People
Kaye Michelle
New cast member praised for authenticity, confidence, and genuine personality; performing at CMA honors
Kelly
Central figure in episode; navigating post-divorce business recovery and conflict with Portia
Portia
Initiating conflict with Kelly over unproven allegations; dating women for first time
Shamiah
Attempting to maintain last season's conflicts and create faction divisions despite cast moving forward
Angela
Emerging as fan favorite for unbothered attitude and willingness to move past previous season drama
Drew
Film premiere for 'Run' featured; navigating friendship with Black and conflict with Shamiah
Phaedra
Suspected of orchestrating last season's Junebug rumor; moving forward with Angela this season
Pinky
New housewife with established vegan restaurant business; married to Philadelphia cheesesteak entrepreneur
Steel Russell
Primary host providing analysis and commentary on RHOA episode
Nana
Co-host providing secondary analysis and commentary on RHOA episode
Reese Palmer
Being honored at CMA event where Kaye Michelle is performing; described as trailblazer in country music
Marcus Houston
Featured in Drew's movie 'Run'; known for 'You Got Served' film
Dr. Casten
Kaye Michelle's husband; best friends since junior high; described as non-controversial presence
Dave
Pinky's husband; Philadelphia native; owns cheesesteak franchise; represents power couple dynamic
Quotes
"I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch."
Kaye Michelle (character intro)Opening segment
"Who doesn't like chicken and waffles? That's what this episode's all about."
Steel RussellEarly episode
"I went into the situation like I not wanting to get married. But when I realized he wasn't even going to propose, I got very offended."
Kaye MichelleMarriage discussion segment
"I can't stand a man that talks too much. You're a bitch."
AngelaShamiah and Kelly check-in
"Why did I do this to myself? Why did I do this to my body?"
Kaye MichelleNashville cosmetic surgery complication reveal
Full Transcript
refreshing wild cherry cola meets smooth cream. The treat you deserve. Pepsi, wild cherry and cream treat yourself. We're two episodes in and I love this show. This show is great. This is exactly what it should be. We should be able to pick and choose if we want some drama, if we just want some fun action. Atlanta falls under the comedy category right now. But something tells me it's not going to last. I think there's going to be some shit blowing up soon, but it's going to be in a way that only Atlanta can do. And I am so excited because all the pieces are in motion. They're all set, ready to go. And we're having a great time. It's just so much fun. As airs are driving a deep left field by Castellanos, it will be a little bit of a surprise. Oh man, it's eight o'clock. And so that'll make it a f***ing... I don't need the spotlight. I shine just fine. Hi, I'm Karma. And yes, I am a bitch. Brof Bros. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Brof Bros. Your favorite podcast from the Bros. For everybody, for whoever wants to listen, I'm your co-host, Steel Russell, joined as always by the one and only... Nana's Chicken and Gouders. What's up, dude? I was just going to say, who doesn't like chicken and waffles? That's what this episode's all about. I'm with Angela. Angela just talked about how much she wanted to eat chicken and waffles the whole episode, and I agree. I mean, that's all you really have to do as a housewife to get me to like you. Just have the same interest in food. If you talk about chicken and waffles all episode, not because you have a business, but because you just want to eat that and you're excited about eating that, I'm going to love you. Right now, I'm aligned with Angela. I've never in my life wanted chicken and waffles more than when I saw those plates of food coming out. They looked fantastic, and the co-signed by Drew, that they are in fact fantastic. Every time she talks about Nana's Chicken and Waffles, two years in a row, I need chicken and waffles. We need to go have it. We just said we're having a flyer's outing. We also need a chicken and waffles outing. So put that on the calendar. Absolutely. Maybe we can do both at the same time. I know that the MLB last week or two weeks ago released all of the funky new things that they're going to be selling at different stadiums. Chicken and waffles has to be something. We got to make that a mainstay. We needed somewhere. Now, the idea of eating chicken and waffles in the sun at a 1 p.m. Phillies game in July, no. I mean, I'd still do it, but I wouldn't. I don't know. That would be a little bit tougher. But a night game when it's a little chilly outside, now you got me. Now I'm hooked. A sixth inning chicken and waffle break? Hell yeah. Hell yeah. You know what the problem is? I love the, like, I think the traditional chicken and waffles is bone in. I think it's like an actual chicken breast with bone in it or a chicken thigh or whatever it might be. But it's just so much more manageable when you have boneless chicken on it. And I know it's not traditional, but like, I just want to be able to just put my knife through everything and just get a good fork full of everything. And I know it's wrong and I know it's better when it has bone in chicken, but I just don't know which way I'll take either. You know, I'm not going to be a complainer. Yeah, I will say this. The best chicken and waffles I ever had was thigh bone in. So that being said, I've had a lot of fantastic chicken and waffles that's been like a chicken tendy. So I'm good with either, but if we're saying like, what's the best? It's definitely bone in thigh chicken and waffles. Absolutely. Little warm butter and bear with me here. Hot honey. Dude, yeah, hot honey, of course. Actually, I like a mixture of the hot honey and the syrup. Yes. Don't crucify me, but I'll mix that shit all day with the butter too. Oh yeah. I'm so hungry right now. Oh my God. And I just made a wonton lasagna for my cooking age. Oh, yeah. Dude. Yeah. Did you eat any of it? It doesn't sound like you did. I had a slice, but I want more now. It is ridiculously good. Okay. This is not the food, bros. Off the food topic. Yep. Oh God, we get caught on this. I'm not even really hungry right now. I had lunch about like 45 minutes ago. I feel fine right now, but I mean, I've always got room for chicken and waffles. Yep. Okay. Let's focus. Let's focus Atlanta. We're here to talk about Atlanta and we start out the episode. We got a little ice plunge with Shamiah and pinky. The only reason I'm referencing this scene. I feel like we have a cast of actual friends. Yeah. And that's, I want to highlight the moments where it's like they actually hang out. They're all getting along. I'm sure they probably thought that was going to be like on the show, but regardless, everyone's hanging out with each other. So we have a good chemistry in this group and that's very important. I think that's a big reason this season is already really good. We get Portia, just a quick check in. Phaedra Sun is driving and then we get to Drew and Angel. This is where we really kind of start out. Okay. We all on the same page. Wait a good job setting the scene. Well, that the beginning was different. I've never seen that where they do like the movie cuts. So I was confused. Yeah. I don't know. I guess because we just had dueling like studio 54 parties. It kind of felt normal. We watched Beverly Hills and Rhode Island. They both had studio 54 parties, which every time that we start to see a theme like that, we don't really know what's going on. We go back to the COVID days with the roaring twenties parties. But yeah, I didn't really bat an eye at that one. It was the exact same setup as every other housewife episode. Check in, check in, check in. Here's your seat. But they did it differently. The cuts, I did kind of notice that, but you know, I'm not going to dwell on it. Yeah, let's not dwell on it. What the fuck is that? Is it all. There's a beetle on my floor. Get him. I'm leaving this in. Go get that beetle and then show the beetle to the camera because everybody's going to want to see a squish beetle. Yeah. Oh, shit. I got him. Well, that's good content. Throw in the fireplace. Oh, that's good. Yeah, do that. You're not even going to, well, whatever. There's no tell. It's like 80 degrees out. I think he's just going to get out of there. Well, like you're still going to fire tonight. All right, here you go. You're going to cage the beetle. I'll check in and see if he's there later. Anyway, I'm leaving it all added, by the way. Yeah, that was just good content. Drew and Angela are talking real quick and Drew's got her movie premiere for Run and she invites Angela. We know last season there was a little bit of beef between the two of them. It appears that they're just going to try to move forward this season, much to somebody's chagrin. And that's a very interesting layer of this thing that we're going to talk about later with a third party, but it is weird to see Phaedra's son driving. That's what I always forget about these shows because we meet a lot of these kids on screen at a very young age. Jersey, obviously, is a good example. Beverly Hills is a good example. And then you kind of watch them grow. And I forgot about Phaedra's son. And then they did the montage of him, literally as a toddler. I was like, oh my God, it's so sad. Yeah, it's funny too because I had a different thought. I have a very similar thought where I'm like, oh yeah, wow. Yeah, I guess their kids do actually age as they go. And I wonder if it's because the housewives still look so great, you know, whatever you think about, whatever you think about, you know, plastic surgery or whatever thing along those lines, fine, I don't care. But the housewives in and out always look great and we always look and we're like, oh, yeah, you look a little different this year. Most part, no, they look the same. So we forget that everybody else around them is aging. It's almost like they're in some sort of like weird dome where they just don't age at all. And they're just, they've been on our screens for 15 years looking exactly the same, which is a good thing, by the way. Yeah, that's actually a really good point. I think that's exactly why it's so shocking every time you see one of the kids grow up. Yeah, especially when they get really fucking tall. That's like the shock and all when you're like, oh yeah, I remember when you, holy shit, you're like six, five. Yeah, exactly. What are we doing here? Well, let's go to dirty tea with Portia, Kaye, Michelle and Kelly first and foremost. Kaye Michelle is currently my favorite housewife. I think she is fantastic. But it's Kaye and Portia sitting there and they're just chit chatting before Kelly arrives and they're talking about Drew and Black at the party. Apparently Black is in Kaye Michelle's DMs. But as we heard in this episode, and we're probably going to hear it in every episode, Drew and Black are just friends. Just friends until, until she finds out that Black slides into Kaye Michelle's DMs. Then I think it's going to be a problem. Then it's going to be very much a Kaye Michelle issue, not a Black issue. It's not going to be, well, I need to go talk to him about that, which then obviously it begs the very obvious question. Well, I thought you guys were just friends. What's the issue here? I don't think Drew is going to put herself in that position. However, she will turn to Kaye Michelle and be like, well, what did you do to actually have him in your DMs? Were you messaging him as well? And it'll turn into that whole thing, which again, I'm actually underplaying it. I'm underselling it a lot too. When Drew does it, it's going to be funny. We're going to see it coming from a mile away. And the way that she goes about it is going to be hilarious. So I am waiting for that, but I had the same thought down the line. This is going to be something. This isn't just a little drop in there that we're not going to talk about again. We're going to talk about this in about six episodes, and it's going to be very funny how Drew goes about it. Exactly. Like there's no telling and is Black going to be on the phone third party for this whole thing, like answering for himself? I fucking hope. God, yes. Kay, Michelle and Drew in person and Black on FaceTime. Yeah, but I need them to like evolve it. I need there to be like a stuffed animal or something with like the phone taped to the face. Can we start to like materialize a body for him? That would be great. And then by the end, like when we get to the reunion, we actually have like an AI animatron thing come out and it's just like a face screen, but it's just black with his ring light. That's what I need. I need the evolution of all of this. An AI generated in this economy, you know, expensive. That's going to be. That was a shell and up for that. The profit was making millions and millions of dollars just because two idiots decided to hook up and not care about their friendship. So correct. We have to, we'll give you guys an update on that whole thing tomorrow, by the way. But anyway, Kay, Michelle is talking about she is going to perform at the ACMA honors and they're honoring Reese Palmer, who is an incredible country. Singer and she is like Kay Michelle says she's a trailblazer in the industry. I think that she really blew up in like the early 2000s, early mid 2000s, I want to say. And I know she has a radio show now or an XM show and Reese Palmer is also a PA native. So how about that? We got close to Pittsburgh, I think, but two big PA natives in this episode alone and more specifically a Philly native. And probably the next scene, actually, if I remember correctly, but yeah, I took this. This was really cool. This is really fun. This didn't seem like at least doesn't seem like an invite. Like we're going to go there because I think she has to go to Nashville for this. If I, if I understand her. Oh, right, right. Okay. Yeah. So like when, when it all comes down to it, like the way she was going about it, I thought was very cool because it gives you an idea of who Kay Michelle is. She didn't have that like, wow, I'm really nervous. You know, this means a lot. Blah, blah, blah. It was more of like a, it's such a big honor and I'm so excited to do that. And I think it's great for me to do this for Reesey and for the black community getting into country and showing everybody that like, Hey, I'm black and I sing country music. Like this is incredible. Everybody should support that cause, but I love her confidence going into that. And again, we're still so early on in her tenure as a housewife that I'm like, yeah, everything you're doing is right. Everything you're doing is really cool. It's just her, her vibe, her overall attitude. She seems so excited. She's got a good attitude. She seems so extremely genuine and authentic and she's not over the top in, in a, in a crazy way. Like she, I don't know. She's just very well rounded as a housewife. We love to see it. Yeah. As we know, Portia and Kelly have been at odds a little bit. So this is kind of a, let's clear the air lunch or at least I thought it was a let's clear the air lunch. But Portia's whole thing is the closer that Kelly has seemingly got to Shamiah, the more quote unquote toxic she's been towards Portia. I think there's some validity there ever so slightly. Like I started to think back and I was like, you know what? Episode one of this season, we saw that weird moment where she forces it at Portia's house. I was like, actually, yeah, I think there is, there is some credence to that. I don't know if it, see, I think it's a little unfair to say it's toxic. I'm toxic. I just, yeah. No, no, not you. I'm not, I'm not giving it to you, but like, she, she used the word toxic. She used it. She did. Yeah. So like, I don't think it's fair to say that it's toxic because I do think obviously what she's doing is I've got my problems with Shamiah. Kelly's inserting herself in the middle of it, which we said, you know, we'd rather see Kelly not get in the middle of it. But if you're looking at it from a practical standpoint, Shamiah handles things very weirdly. She handles conflict very weirdly. She can never really, like, she can never really articulate exactly what her feelings are. She either just goes one way or the other. She either goes completely mute and doesn't say a word and then walks away with a lot of things to say in her confessional. Or she just plays the petty game and she just keeps going tipped for tap back and forth, back and forth. And she thinks that she's doing a good read, but in reality it's like, no, you're just, they're very low level insults. And we saw it with Angela last season too. It's like, okay, yeah, you might hit like one out of every 10 insults, but it's still not a way to go about this. So I do think that maybe Kelly sees that and maybe Kelly, I think Kelly and Shamiah's friendship is genuine. Like I'm not questioning that at all. I think that they are friends. So I think that maybe just the person that Kelly is is like, no, I'm going to stay up. I'm going to stand up for my friends. I feel like Shamiah is not doing that. Porsche is putting her in a bad spot. So let me just insert myself. Again, I don't agree with it. I don't think that she should do that. But I understand why she's doing it. Yeah. Yeah. I just feel like with Kelly's altercations, if you will, just when she gets into it with somebody, it doesn't seem constructive. Not that she needs to rebuild things all that. Like, of course, she's allowed to just throw shade. It just feels like because like you said, it's always so petty and surface level that we just kind of kick the ball. Like you're kicking the can along. Yeah. We're not moving anything forward. You know what I mean? Right. So yeah, I don't know. I do think there's some, like I said, validity to that statement from Porsche. But you're right. I don't know if toxic was the right word. Yeah. I mean, it's Porsche. Of course, she's going to use words like that. Right. So last season, we had that moment in the after show, I believe, where Kelly made the claim that Porsche needs to stop boinking everybody's husband. Right. Now, Porsche flips this. And this was supposed to be a let's clear the air lunch and maybe she had to get this off her chest. I don't know. But the way that she goes about it, you're not trying to clear the air. You're trying to turn the table because she throws it on Kelly and says, well, you know, you're not clean. And with you having the past that you have, she's like, what do you want? She's like, you slept with a married man too. And Porsche is insisting on it because Kelly is vehemently denying this. No shot. No way. It does get a little confusing because she's like, you did it. And then so-and-so called me or sorry, called the guy I was with and his friend said, I just buoyed Kelly. And then makes a reference to Dennis and Porsche somehow. I don't know where that one came from, but that's, that's where I stopped believing it or have to believe it. I was in until that. Yeah. I'm with Kay Michelle in this situation because she was very confused and she was sitting there. I think that she was not letting on that she knew too much. Obviously, I think that if there's rumors going around, I assume that all of them know the rumors. There are certain housewives that you can point to and be like, no, absolutely. You are oblivious to everything. But I do assume always that the housewife has heard one of the rumors or knows everything that's going on, but she was very confused. And it was one of those situations where, and we've all seen it. It's not just housewives where you're lying about something and then you're getting ultra specific with your lies to make it seem like it's more authentic, but it's not because the deeper you go into that, the more we question and then you kind of lose me entirely. Once she got to Dennis, I'm like, what are we talking about Dennis for? How did he get into this? Was it Dennis? And Porsche already said to, cause I watched, watched what happens live. She was on with Liz from Rhode Island, which was really good. And Porsche said like, you guys are going to want to know who it is. I'm just telling you right now, don't look forward to that. I'm not going to spill the beans. I'm not going to say who that person is. Obviously I agree with that too. And that's kind of what we get into right now with Kelly, because Kelly's like, why are we talking about this now? We're very much in public. She's like, no, this is a private conversation. I want to clear the air with you now. I want you to know these things. And Kelly's like, what are you talking about? Not only are we sitting in a tea place with other people around us, we're in the public. She doesn't break the fourth wall and allude to the fact that there's cameras there, but we all know what she's talking about. This is the most public that you could possibly get with this. This is not a private conversation. Portia knows that she doesn't give a shit, but she knows that and she's playing dumb. Like, no, it's just me and you sitting here and yeah, Kay's here too, but you know, it's just me and you shooting the shit right now. I'm just telling you what I've heard so that you can get ahead. Now, Portia, we know what you're doing. Don't do that. Just don't do that. And again, like you just said, don't bring all of that up if you're not going to show up and she's like, I am the receipt. Like, no, you're not actually a proven liar. Like, and look, I'm not saying that she's always a liar, but you have lied about a lot of things to get back at somebody. We've seen it time and time again. You've been on the show for 10 years. We understand how this works. It's okay. But if you're going to make a claim like that, have the receipt, at least show her the text message. Like, what are we doing here? Yeah. When she started talking about texts and calls and stuff, I'll make them. We should actually have real receipts. Let's see one of them. I'm not saying that she's lying. I don't know enough yet. I'm just saying when you get to the dentist part, it's kind of hard for me to believe and it's just funny to watch Portia work. Yeah. Because she does everything the same way. She has beef with somebody. She sets it up as though, hey, I'm either trying to clear the air or I'm just mentioning this to you. Like, she always tries to have that moral high ground in this stuff and then we'll say something like this. And then she's able to go on the defensive in her mind and be like, whoa, whoa. I thought we were squashing this. Like what's going on? Because Kelly obviously is not thrilled to hear this. It just then gets confusing because Portia's like, well, I don't speak on your name and she's like, well, you just did. And then Kelly's like, well, I don't speak on yours. I'm like, well, yeah, you did on the after show. So that's not true either. Now you guys are just throwing shit at the wall and we're not really getting anywhere. So let's hug. Let's hug it out. Sure. Yeah, we can hug it out. There's no way that Portia actually thought that that hug was real or that that hug meant they were moving on, despite what she says later. Yeah, absolutely. It's just, again, I mean, it's behavior that we've seen before. It's from both of them technically because you could say that it spilled over and Kelly going back to last year, I mean, she showed up episode one with no one knowing who she was and said, why'd you take that? Why'd you take that lady's husband and then double down, triple down, quadruple down, got to the after show and said the same thing. So she has had it coming. So I'm not really like upset that this is going on. I mean, I'm kind of surprised that it took this long, but we've seen Portia either drag her feet and get to the point where she finds something that she can use against you. And if she doesn't, then she moves on entirely and we all know why she's moving on. It's because she doesn't have anything on you, but I don't know. It's, it was expected, but I don't think a whole lot is really going to come from it. I think it's more just, it's more about Shamie and Portia, to be honest. Yeah, exactly. And that's the root of it. And that's where the Kelly aspect gets interesting. But again, to Kaye Michelle, I liked her, her in this scene a lot because she is not diving in. She's not picking a side. She's not like, Oh, I got to be team Portia and throw my allegiance over there. She's saying, you know, like this isn't really fair to be talking about this little lady's little hot pocket, which was a funny line. And pretty much checking on Kelly, like, Hey, I don't know what's happening here, but are you okay? Like, are we good in this moment? Yeah. Okay, cool. And that's a great role. We don't really have that post on this show. No, no, and she could easily be that, but she could be anything she wants at this point. It looks like she's got all the tools. Yep. Well, let's bop over to Pinky and her family and we get to learn more about her and her husband. They met. She was pregnant three months later. They got engaged. They got married. They have three kids together, two older daughters, two older stepdaughters. And she just seems very real and relatable. Like she's not trying to put on a front on the camera, which I very much appreciate because especially with new housewives, you tend to get that where it's just like in your face. I think that she is established enough in because like I had heard of her. Slutty vegans everywhere. Like I've seen that. So I love that she's kind of just herself. The fact that she can't remember her kid's name. She's like, what's the fuck? The fifth one dash or DJ dash. Oh, it's dash, my bad. Like just stuff like that is pretty great. But yeah, I appreciate the scene with her mostly just because it was a full, like consolidated background story on where she was with business, how she got to where she is, the trials and tribulations along the way. And then we get introduced to her husband who I wasn't sure what kind of role he was going to take. Atlanta can always go either way. We either never see the husband in total or you see the husband a lot. So I'm not really sure where he's going to end up, but he's from Philly. And I love that too, because that was my first instinct. He was talking about cheese steaks and he's obviously he owns, I think it's called big Dave's cheese steaks. Dave's cheese steaks. So I've actually seen one or two of those before. I've never had them before. But as soon as cheese steak pops up being from Philly, I have to look up if you're actually from Philly, if you know what the fuck you're doing, because if you're not, you don't know what the hell you're doing. And I'm assuming there's a big sandwich with cheese. Yeah, there's going to be like chopped up peppers and fucking mushrooms and shit on there with like mayo. And like, no, we're not doing that. So I had to look it up. He grew up in Philly and he had a whole thing. He actually doesn't even have a Wikipedia page, which was a little bizarre, but he did have a Forbes article written about him, which tells me he's legit. So I like that a lot. And I want to see more from him because I always want to see more from Philly people. And hopefully we've had a really bad track record with Philly people popping up on these shows and I know, I need him to be a good representation of Philly. I do too. And it's going to be interesting because they have an interesting relationship. When they're talking in the end, because she goes through her whole business dealings, you know, how she got started, when she blew up, everything was going great. And then she hired, as she says, she hired some of the wrong people. Shit went downhill. She spent the last year or two trying to regroup and relaunch the brand, which it seems like she has. Meanwhile, he's been doing his thing with Big Dave's. So he hasn't really been checking in. It seems like a very, what's the word, like a power couple situation, you know, where and like the stuff that he was saying, he's talking about them pushing each other and things like that, which, OK, I'm for that. You know, you guys motivate each other, maybe it's a little bit competitive in a positive way. I don't know where I caught a snag is the support. Is that she's a vegan and he has a cheese stick shop because I hit that. That's why I didn't even. She said last week I couldn't be with anybody who wasn't a vegan. So I'm assuming he is a vegan, but he owns a long string of cheese steak places. I'm a little confused by that. I'm actually very confused by that. A long string is so much better than a chain. I always do that. Anytime there's like anything that franchises, I always refer to them as long strings. I like long string better than chain. But yeah, I just it was the last little bit of that convo. And she was like, you know, I had a lot of lonely nights. And he's like, no, you didn't. It's like, OK. He's like, I was here every single night. It's like, well, maybe she's alluding to something else. And sure enough, she was. She was saying I didn't feel the support when everything was going on. Again, they're both high powered business people. So he was off doing his thing. But if you sir are going to make the claim that you were there. That's where I catch an issue because things aren't lining. If you had said I'm so sorry I wasn't there. I was launching big Dave's in LA or whatever the fuck. Fine. But you were there. And she's saying you weren't supportive. So that's my snag. I'm like, oh, is this going to go like you said one way or the other? Yeah, it's something to look. It's something to keep a close eye on for sure for us. And the long string on it. God, if he fucking if he does, he just is in a long string of people misrepresenting Philadelphia. That's where we're going to end up. Where you were good people in Philly. That's like our thing. Like we're rough around the edges. I know we're really good people. And like Dali's ruined that. Yeah, Dali has his on TV. They'll do things. It's like, yeah, you come from the city where they threw snowballs at Santa. It's like, oh, God, oh, that's like we just have a nice person. Like a cool person that like stands out and like, hey, I like that guy a lot. Great. Or I like that girl a lot. Great. No, we can't do that. We can't. We get Emmy and Trevor. That's who we get to represent us. I'm sure there's more to I just kind of blacked it out. I know. Anywho, Kaye Michelle and her husband, Dr. Casten are going to check out their new house. And we just get a little bit more background here. You know, they've been best friends since junior high. And she gets a little bit more in depth on the marriage part of things, because in the last episode, she talked about the fact that she went on Queens Court to kind of force his hand a little bit to say, like, hey, I got plenty of options. It's time to shit or get off the pot, buddy. Yeah. The funniest part of this is she's like, you know, I went into the situation like I not wanting to get married. But when I realized he wasn't even going to propose, I got very offended. I was very offended. I was like, that's really, really funny, actually. Yeah. Wait, that's the same. Oh, well, it's not really the same thing, but we saw a sliver of that on summer house the week before where Dara was upset that now, yeah, the sun, Ben wasn't flirting with. What do you mean? Ben said he wasn't flirting with me. It was totally. I don't think it's. I'm offended by that. Yeah. It's, it's, it's definitely in the same realm as that. I thought it was just very funny though, when she's talking about it, just like even like flash over. Are you really excited to do all? Yeah, I guess I'm just signed to the paperwork here. I guess we're going to do all this. But yeah, it's, it was a very funny breakdown of their relationship. And he seems like such a non-issue, just like such a normal guy. He's going to be out of the way the whole time. I doubt anything's ever going to pop off. He's going to be very funny to look at it. I know I did it again. Yeah, he's going to do something awful now because we just gave him our, our support. He's going to get in trouble for like laundering money through his dentistry or something. We don't think he is doing that. We're just, our track record says if we support a dude, a husband, especially, every time we do this, like he seems great. The next episode, it's Greg yelling in the restaurant, in public, in the middle of the season in Potomac. That's, that's what we got. Yeah, that's what we're going to end up with. Or there's going to be like these smuggling drugs through like gold fillings in teeth or something like that. Allegedly. Allegedly. Oh, not, not even allegedly. It's just, it's just where I'm going. Yeah. I'm trying to think of the worst possible situation. So we're not blight-sided. Somewhat clean because I don't want to get in trouble by FAA, FAA because, you know, they, they track what we're saying on our podcast. They keep an eye on us. FAA, the flight administration. That's the other one. But yeah, FCC is, I thought FCC was the flight administration. 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But moving right along, we have to Shamia and Kelly and Angela joins in a little while. And we're getting just a check in here because in the beginning of the scene, we learned that Kelly's ex-husband is doing interviews now. He was on with Tasha Kay talking about Kelly and their divorce, which Kelly is not surprised. And I love Angela's line. I can't stand a man that talks too much. You're a bitch. It's like, he probably is. Yeah, I don't play her. Angela is just quickly becoming a fan favorite. She's awesome. She's so unbothered. That's why she's my fave. But we get a business update from Kelly because obviously we are massive Nana's chicken and waffle fans here. We learned about the Sandy Springs location last season. This is the flagship store. It's a big deal. She's been trying to get this off the ground. We also know that due to the divorce, there's a lot of roadblocks, a lot of red tape. She's trying to decipher through here to make this thing happen. And she goes through like the actual finances of it, which I appreciate. I always like when we get people being up front about stuff, because what this tells me is she spread very thin. And this is kind of a make or break it situation. She says the debt is deading. I got a lawsuit for $26,000 in unpaid rent. I guess she paid that. And the debt on the restaurant itself was a hundred grand. And she claims to have paid 50,000 of that. So she spent a hundred grand just to open the doors. So she's in the hole. Big time in the hole. And we talked about this all last season because we kept going back to that site. Always asking, when the fuck is this place going to open? Well, we know we get a very big location for the two things we got. Yeah, those are the two things that we talked about all last season. We actually decided on the podcast to pretty much stop talking about it because we did it every episode. But it's good to see that she's gotten back to a good place where she could open the doors at least. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, last year, they were still trying to put the kitchen in and they were opening in like a month, according to them. So clearly whatever. Look, Nana's chicken and waffles, they're going to thrive. They're going to do five. She had to make her money back. Everything's going to be OK. Make your money. Did you not hear yourself just say money? No, did I? Yeah. You're going to make your money back. You make your money back. Everything's OK. Don't you know that's north? Oh, now you're just. Western. Now you're just all over the map. It's real it in, real it in. Phaedra and Drew comes up and at some point, Shamiah brings up the Angela and Drew, whatever, which again is very much whatever. And you're seeing this and we talked about it last episode and this is what I was nervous about. And I do believe once again, it's because of last season, set a precedent in Shamiah's head. She's trying to force things. She's trying to get factions. She's trying to split up friendships. She's dropping a line in Angela's ear about Drew trying to stir up shit. And Angela being Angela's like, I don't care. Why is she trying to start an issue between me and her? Shamesi is very funny. And I'm going to say that a lot funny. Yeah, yeah. Shamesi and Horsha came out in this scene and both, unfortunately, are just great. They're pretty fucking great, especially actually. And look, I hand up. I always have issues with people sing when Kelly goes to her confessional and all she's doing is singing Horsha. Kind of funny. I actually really enjoyed that one. But yeah, I think again, this is what we keep coming back to. And we had that conversation in the beginning of the episode where we're talking about, you know, what's the real reason why Portia is going after, I guess, going after Kelly and talking about all these things. It always comes back to Shamiah. So Shamiah is doing things. That's the end of the day. Now, is she doing things that warrant this type of behavior on the other side from Portia? We'll find out. We'll figure all that out because I'm not exactly sure how much Shamiah is doing, but we have had the inklings. You know, even going back to last season that she was pulling the strings that she was getting in people's ears about certain people. Now she was always making excuses for Portia last year. So it did kind of make things cloudy. But this year it's completely different. I do feel like a lot of that's going to get cleared up pretty quickly. I agree. And I'm interested to see where that whole thing goes. It's just she's making me nervous. Everybody else on this show right now is soaring. They are all doing so good. They seem comfortable. They seem to be settling into this season. They also all seem to be looking forward other than Kelly and Portia. And that one was going to come up no matter what. She said she's bang and married men. So like we were going to have to deal with that one. But for the most part, we're seeing last season being swept away. We don't need to talk about that shit. Shamiah is trying to make it last season. And I think that's going to be a problem. She's going to have a rough season doing that. But like I think she's going to have a rough season, but we're not going to have a rough season. At least I think I agree. Because of what you just said, everybody else is looking forward. Everybody else is doing such a great job that even if Shamiah, like Shamiah is not that much of a destructive force, I think she can be somewhat destructive. But she's not that big of a force that she's going to be able to pull everybody back. I mean, you've got some full on heavy hitters on this cast that are not going to give a fuck what Shamiah is doing. And that's going to be great for us too, because it's almost like a medicine like up, nope, we're not dealing with this. We're moving forward and nobody's going to get stuck in the mud. She might be able to pull like Drew, she can pull back, but like Drew can float and just be kind of funny and like, I don't really care if she gets pulled back. Kelly and Portia are probably going to be the barometer for that, but everybody else doesn't give a shit. They're done with it. Exactly. And I'm glad, but let's keep moving. We get to Drew and she's at the regal for her movie premiere run. And I will say, no matter what's happening, most of the time with this group, they are a very supportive bunch. They do show up. Yeah, definitely. That's why I was actually surprised at the end that Portia didn't show up to Kelly's. Yeah, I know. Because usually they're able to just move forward, not move forward, but be like, I'm standing next to the grind. I agree with you. I was a little confused that she didn't show up too, but I get why she didn't show up. I mean, I think she was up until this scene. I think she was planning on going. She was still going to go because again, in her mind, she cleared the air. Like we were at dirty tea the other day. I told her everything. She doesn't actually believe in that though. That's why I said earlier. But it's all about optics for Portia. And even though she doesn't feel that way, she thinks that everybody else feels that way and that's good enough for her. She can move forward or at least make the, uh, the indication that she's moving forward. But I actually like this. And this is one of the weird instances where again, I'm heavily critical of, especially singing careers. I think Drew's actually a pretty good actress. I think she's actually pretty good and she's been in a lot of shit. Also, I might be a little bit leaning in this direction because do you know who was in this, uh, this movie? No, Marcus Houston. You got served. Yeah. Yeah. He was. Yeah. So I actually want to watch this movie because it's, it's right up my alley for like a corny side. We should do a review of, of God. Yeah. We absolutely should. I was looking at the IMDB today. There was a couple of people who have been in things, but haven't been in things in a long time. Marcus Houston stood out right away. I'm like, Holy shit. Really? Marcus Houston, but yeah, I guess he's got to be doing something. He's not getting served anymore. Not serving people apparently. Maybe serve the alien. He was getting served. He was getting served and serving in that movie. You just got served. I remember when that came out, that commercial would play every, every ad break and you would just hear that. You just got served. Hell yeah, brother. I was actually doing the South Park parody of it, but yeah. I know, I know. I was doing the real one. But anyway, Phaedra and Angela, I think again, Angela's like, fuck last year, like, I don't care. Let's move on. I don't have time for all this bullshit brings up last year. It was such like a passing statement too. It was literally just, cause I got a little worried and we talked about it last week with Angela where she said, I'm moving on. I don't care about any of that bullshit. I can't be bothered this year by that. And we're like, all right, cool. I love that. I actually believe you. And then she asked questions. No. No, you're kind of contradicting yourself, but this was such a, I have to ask just a straightforward question to Phaedra. Did you have anything to do with that guy last year at the end of the season? No, absolutely not. I actually thought it was fucking weird as hell. Cool. All right. I don't believe you. Go to my confession. I still believe that it's Phaedra, but at least we can move forward now. And that's really all it takes, honestly. And that's why a lot of this cast, I appreciate the way that they can do that because even if it doesn't fucking matter, it's, you're never going to have hard evidence that Phaedra was involved. Angela can move on. Phaedra doesn't give a fuck anymore. She's done. We already talked about what it was and what it was for. It doesn't matter anymore. Nobody seems to be affected. We don't need to linger on it. Well, Phaedra makes me laugh because she takes the opportunity to be like, good, finally, maybe we can find out who really did it. I'm like, you did it. Like, we all know you did it. Okay. Would be funny to watch like a full fucking episode though of Phaedra. And I know that they kind of do this sometimes, but like put her in a Sherlock Holmes outfit and make sure that she like goes from point A to point B, talking to random people on the street, trying to figure out who Junebug is. And just watching her come to some conclusion and blaming some poor innocent person for this, that would be really funny to me because we all know that she was involved in some way. I don't know if she orchestrated it, but she probably heard the rumor and then passed it on to somebody else and made sure that somebody was at that event. Fine. But I either way, we know that she's involved in some way, but watching an entire episode where she tries to find the truth and somebody gets blamed for it would be very funny to me. I agree, but the whole thing's so Phaedra coded that when it all popped up last year, I didn't even think twice. I was like, Oh yeah, of course she did this, but the point is it doesn't matter because Angela doesn't want to deal with it. So they squash it, they hug, they're moving forward. It wasn't swept under the rug. That's also very important. It was just, it was an agree to disagree, but Phaedra doesn't know she still disagrees. Perfect. Yeah. Great. Now Portia arrives with Sway, who she is there on a date with, as we all know, she is a little fluid. So she is just testing the waters here. You know, she's getting back out in the dating world. This is the first time she's considered dating a woman in the past. She's, she said she's fooled around with women. This is the first time she's dating a woman. So we'll actually, I would love to see a double date with Portia, Sway and Charles and Angela. Charles and Angela would be great. That'd be a great scene. Yeah. The conversation we were having was Phaedra with whoever, she's dating somebody right now too, I think. I can't remember his name though. I should met him in the first episode. I don't remember. You might still have it written down somewhere, but yeah, the conversation was, well, you know, he got Phaedra and Drew here. Maybe they'll bring somebody on a double date. I would love to see Charles and they, Charles and Angela go on that double date though. That would be very fun. Right. Would that be a great scene? I just went back to my notes to try to find. Yeah, you probably didn't write it down. It's okay. Um, but, uh, Portia is still with her. So that's still going strong, which is good to see. All right. I just wanted to do a quick, to see if I found it, but yeah, we don't need to waste time. I don't think it's going to like make anybody's day. If you figure out, no, the name was, no, it's more for me. Yeah. Yeah, that's okay. That would have made me happy. Oh, wait, it's worth a try guys. It's worth a try. But the conversation comes back around to what happened with Kelly earlier, that a pair of the Kelly's boy and king married man, according to Portia. Ed Porsche is like, yeah, we cleared that whole thing. It's no big deal. We hugged it out all as well. She's like, oh, well, she called you a horse. Yeah. Oh, well, she's a fake ass bitch then. Great. So yeah, fuck that. So fuck that. I am no longer going to chicken and waffles debut. I do not care. She can rot in hell for all I'm concerned. I'm moving on. See you guys later. Yep. Exactly. And then we get to go watch the movie. And again, like I said, you get a very supportive group like Porsche gives her a props for acting. It is very funny that she died in the first 10 minutes until we find out it's the first 35 minutes. And I'm not going to knock her acting career. Like I agree with you. Actually, she is a good actress. And you know, this is cool. She's in a movie. So like no shade there. It's just funny if she did get killed, if it was like Drew Barrymore and scream where she literally gets killed in the first scene of the movie would be kind of funny to poke a little bit. Yeah. But I mean, she's in one third of the movie. So that's pretty good. That's pretty decent. But one thing happens afterwards and then we can move forward to Nana's chicken and waffles. This topic. And I said this was going to happen. It's going to continue to happen. We talked about it earlier a little bit. This black situation. He's a friend. I don't care anymore. I don't want to do this every time black comes up and it's going to come up because Kay Michelle is going to mention that he's in her DMs and then it's going to become a thing, even though we've watched you say your friends in every scene that you're in. Yeah. Look, it's fine because we know what the end game is. We know what's going to end up happening in a couple of episodes. So as long as we focus on that and I do think because it involves Kay Michelle, it'll be fine. It's not going to be a unwatchable scene. It's not going to make anybody grown. We all know who Drew is. She's going to continue to say that she's just friends with him. It's okay. It's not the end of the world. I'm mostly talking to you actually because I know you're in an aggravated with it. Probably, but thanks. Thanks for trying to talk me off the ledge prematurely. Uh, but anyway, we get to Nana's chicken and waffles and Kelly's there getting everything set up. They passed their health inspection, all that good stuff. We get a little bit more of a rundown on the debt thing and rebuilding her life post divorce and all the things she has to pay for. She got attorney fees. She's a single mom. She's taking care of her mom and her dad and her sister. So she's got a lot of the line here as we opened up the Sandy Springs location. Again, the food looks fantastic. So I think we got a winner here. I got my thingies crossed, but everybody arrives. And again, there's, there's. This is just a bummer. It's a bummer and it's going to keep being a bummer. Shamia. You and Drew, we don't care. Right. And like even drew alludes to it. Like I don't have any beef with Shamia anymore. It does feel like we have so many people on this cast just trying to start a new season, start from scratch. And this is Shamia's move every time to, to try to go backwards. I think she's going to end up isolated and it's going to be very obvious. I think my issue with the whole thing is like, you can have new beef with these people. Sure. It's, it's all based off of shit that happened last year and everybody else on the cast has moved forward. So should you, but it's not supposed to stop you from having beef. Like you can still hold on to those feelings. You can have your reservations about anybody that you want. I don't care. That's what this show is for. Just find new reasons and you can find new reasons very easily on this show, on any housewife show. Sometimes someone does something that's going to irritate you or piss you off. And you can take it however the hell you want. You can take it as a slight to your own character, even though Drew is just referring to black as her friend. That could somehow upset you and you could have an issue with that and go after Drew for it. And I'd be like, yeah, okay, that makes total sense. But if you're going to bring up shit from last year or not even really bring up shit from last year, but just a loon to it or just say, I've got issues with it. Like, no. And again, we didn't really see her have like severe issues with Drew. It was not really anybody. I mean, except for Portia, which we understand and we got into at the reunion and obviously you guys are still at that point. I just don't care. And we're hearing about it from other people too. That's the worst part where it's like, yeah, Shami has got issues. Why? Why is Shami not here telling me that she has issues with me? Like I just don't want to watch that. Yeah. It's very strange. It's not good TV. Everything else around it is great. Yeah. So I'm not saying anything negative about the show overall. It's just interesting to watch this. Yeah. And like you see other moments where, you know, she finds out that Angela and Phaedra are cool. I think that Shami has an issue with that. She's like losing soldiers. She's like, well, shit, if everyone's cool and I'm not, how am I going to get my team? You're watching her team fall apart. She didn't really have one before, but I think she had this preconceived notion going into this season. This is how it's going to stack up. Here's who I got to go against Portia. And here's who's going to be on the other side of things. And I think in two episodes and she's looking around the table going, fuck, everyone's cool, except for me. And all she's going to do, dude, is lean so heavy on Kelly and just try to be in her ear about Portia to make sure that they're still at odds that she has a common enemy with somebody. And that's also going to be annoying. Yeah, that's for sure going to happen. And again, she's going about it the wrong way. You don't need a team. You should be watching everybody else make up and be cool with each other and say, wow, I want to slice of that pie. I want to be cool with people. Go be cool with people. I don't really think anybody outside of Porsche is going to have an issue. If you show up like, yeah, you might get a couple of eye rolls. You might get a couple of people saying it's fake, but there's a couple of new people on this cast that you can kind of try to rub elbows with. There's older people that have been on the cast who are going to be cool with you if you just go over and start talking to them, but she has this stance of, well, I feel like I'm being left out. So you're leaving yourself out. That's the only problem here. You can just do whatever the hell you want and move forward just as they are. But for whatever reason, she has these reservations and I don't know if it's just her and Kelly sitting down off camera talking about everybody. And then she sees Kelly like, oh, I guess Kelly's able to have conversations with these people and do things. I don't know. I don't feel the same way. Like it's just a very well with me attitude. And I just don't care for it. I don't either. It's just kind of irritating. You know, like I don't know what your angle is, but if this is going to be you bumming around all season, that's not that fun. And she again, tries to incite something at the table because she's like, well, I'm just so proud of how quickly we can move on from things. Just feels like last year when I tried to sweep it under the rug, everyone was like, no, it's like, well, yeah, well, that's the thing because you tried to sweep it. And Phager and Angela, I mean, no, it wasn't a knockdown drag out, but they did talk about what was going on and agreed to move on from it. They didn't just act like it didn't happen. So it's a bit of a different situation. That was also a different situation between the two of them. I don't think that they had a friendship beforehand. You and Porsche go back a very long time. So when you guys were having shit with each other and the rest of the group is getting involved, that's a lot more loaded. And yeah, we want to see the breakdown of that. Angela, Phager and Junebug was such a random. What the fuck is this? Like, no, we don't want to get stuck on that. And you're not having a big moment here by saying, oh, but you guys can sweep it. It's like, oh, no, oh, no, we're not doing that. Oh, no. And it also was nice though, to see Pinky go over to Kelly because Kelly is like, yeah, you left me on red. She's like, and as we know from everything Pinky's told us, she's being honest when she says, look, I didn't even know I left you on red. I was going through a lot and we know that she was actually in real life. And this is all you need from her. She's like, I'm so proud of you. I'm here for whatever you need. I got your back. Lots of props. Awesome. Awesome scene. Awesome Pinky. She's great. And yeah, it's the way to do it. Like don't don't leave anything unimaginable. Don't leave anything out there to be conveyed into a weird situation where Kelly thinks that you're taking a hit. Oh yeah, no, just shut the book on it. Just shut the book on it. Just be supportive. Like if you really didn't mean anything by it, there's no reason to throw shade right now. Look, I don't know if Kelly and Pinky are going to be friends by the end of the day, who the hell cares. We'll see how that plays out. But this is a non issue. And I'm glad that this is one of those tropes that we've seen a million times. This could have blown up into something that really would have been boring as shit to watch. So I'm happy that they just closed the book on it right away. I agree. But my favorite part of this episode is probably Porsche sending flowers. Congratulations. We need to talk. Yeah. What do you think she's going to do with those flowers? Exactly what she does with them. Get those out of here. I don't need these. It's honestly worse than just not showing up. If you just didn't show up, that's probably expected, given what's going on. The flowers are condescending, in my opinion. Yeah. Yeah. But I still like the move. I'm a big fan of the move. That's a good move. Yeah. I don't have an issue with the move. I'm just saying those flowers were pretty much a middle finger. Yeah. Like I'm not there and I'm reminding you that I'm not there. And I love that Angela calls Porsche though. It's like, Hey, what's up? What's going on? Here's Kelly. Awesome. And the fake niceties back and forth about who can be meaner to the other person without saying something actually mean was very fun. I very much enjoyed it. Very entertaining. Very entertaining stuff by both of them. Yep. And the last part of the grand opening of Dana's chicken and waffles is Shabia and Drew. And again, trying to poke and prod. The way she leads things off, even though you didn't invite me, I want to see your movie and Drew is like, Well, we haven't been talking. We haven't talked at all. Why would I invite you to this thing? And you said a lot of hurtful things. Well, it's like, Yeah, well, you did too. It's like, Okay. So what's the move here? And then show me as mom comes in out of nowhere and starts talking about Jesus. And somehow we're able to move forward. So because we all need a little Jesus in our life. Well, probably. It put, look, it seems like it put things into perspective right away. Shabia's mom came in, just brought up Jesus and we're all good. Cool. All right. Nobody has to worry about anything because Jesus is here. Praise be. You're right. You are right. Under his eye. Well, Kay Michelle was in Nashville for the ACMA event and something happened. I'm very glad that she was able to perform because it made it seem like maybe she didn't get on stage, but yeah, when she was sitting in the green room, I guess she got up from the couch and the whole couch was soaking wet. She said she was completely numb. It turns out that she got an illegal surgery with illegal silicone to get a BVL from what it sounds like. And because of that, she's having a leak and where the stitches were opened up. It was this whole mess. I felt so bad for her, like her crying and sitting there going, why did I do this to myself? It's like most case scenario. I'm sure everyone has nightmares about that happening if they get it done in real life. So I just feel bad. I'm not going to say at all. Like, well, you shouldn't have done it. Like that's stupid. The fuck are we to say what exactly? Her body is correct. So yeah. So that is not my stance at all. I just felt really bad, really bad because she seems to strut about the whole thing. I hope that they can clear it up and she's totally fine moving forward. But a big tip of the cap, just the self-awareness of the whole thing to talk about it from that perspective of like, why the fuck did I do this to my body? I had a great butt beforehand and I tried to do too much and this is the result. So just. Building up why she is such a likable housewife, just so authentic in the best way, parents. See, yes, we love to see it. She's just she's a star. And I know she's like a star in real life, but like she is a star on this show. Yeah. But let's get to some questions. This is interesting from Diane and Jerry. Do you agree, Kelly? Oh, you set us up. I know what you're doing. You try to make us agree without even reading the question first. That's smart. Well done. Do you agree Kelly is dragging the issue with Portia? No, not yet. Portia. I can see it. Yeah, no, I could see it. And look, anytime you have an issue with Portia, it's going to get dragged on. Yeah. You know, whether it's her or somebody else, we've seen that time and time again, but not right now, I don't agree with that. Yeah. That's how I answer that question. No, and yeah. Do you agree? But yeah, I think the other part of it is, you know, Portia is the one that started the beef this season. She's the one that brought up the after show, which yeah, Kelly through the first stone, Portia brought it to relevancy now. So no, I don't think she's dragging it yet yet. Check back in a few episodes. We'll see. I could see how that would play. But yes, yes, not yet from J. Bay, the Hut 713 Angela, the potster this season. Yeah, I could definitely see that. I could see that she's she's in a good position. I do actually think that and we agreed last year, I think that her and Fager could actually be really good friends and be a really good force on this show. They just have to be able to clear up that shift from last season. It seems like they have. I'm going to take their word for it. Hope that they've moved on. But Angela looks and feels like such a better like version of her. And she was already great last year, but she feels like such a better version of herself from last year, where she just has a different level of confidence and she can do all of those things. So yeah, I can see her be the potster, not only the potster, but also like an integral part to the show. Yeah, I agree. From Janice Ingram, three 60, no question. Just to comment, I'm very happy they are exploring the black history of country music. I agree. I think it's so fascinating and there's so much history there. If you want to do some extra research, the influence that black culture has had on all music is super fascinating. And if you take it back, there is influence in literally every genre that you listen to today. So I'm glad that we're finally getting into it a little bit, learning more about the history of black people in country music, because it is super fascinating and very, very relevant to the current sound of country music. And that's where I think it's super interesting. So if you go back, like the banjo was literally based off of a West African instrument. Yeah. So like there's so much more there. I love that they're doing that. I agree, Janice, good call. I'm sure there's still some whites out there that are like, why are they doing this? This is our country music. Fuck off. Although they're probably not watching it. I would be honest, but if they are, they're probably doing that. It's those people that when you ask, it's so funny in like a not funny way. But like if you ask people, what housewife shows do you watch so many times? So many times. I just don't watch Atlanta or Potomac. Oh, that's interesting. That's interesting, Karen. Why not? Yeah. Hmm. Yeah. So anyways, I stopped watching Roni in season 15. Yeah, something along those lines. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's never never a good answer. Yeah. One. Yep. Go for it. From Charles 96. I love this one. K Michelle is giving Jim from the office every time she looks at the camera. Roa is back. I do love that. Her subtle breaks in the fourth wall because I think since she's so relatable, she's like speaking for us and like our reactions and scenes. So I like that she acknowledges us at home. Like you guys are picking this up too, right? And I'm like, yeah, OK, I got you. I feel the same way, dude. We feel the same way. Boy, that's look if they can continue this. Bravo might be back for fuck's sake. They they're hitting on all cylinders right now. We'd like to remind you guys anytime we're in a good spot. Take it all in. OK, enjoy the shows on right now because it will not be like this forever. Yeah. But that's all I got. You got anything else? Oh, I'll get here. Well, I'm going to go eat more Wonton lasagna and chicken and waffles. But that's our show. A brav browser out of here. Go Flyers. The world of Sonic the Hedgehog has been thrust into a not so dark, not so stormy, hardboiled detective story that probably nobody saw coming. Follow Sonic and the Intrepid Chaotix Detective Agency as they take on their biggest case yet. 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