Part Two - Interview with A True Crime Psychic Medium

All right, we continue on with part two of our interview with special guest, Jeanette Lucas. I mean, people call me about ghost work too, which is really fun. Well, let's talk about it. There you go. Let's talk about it. All right, we were talking about your house that you live in. So have you experienced anything in the little house that you live in right now? Yeah, so my house is not haunted. So I have to turn it across the board. It is not haunted. So what is going on here is because I can communicate from the other side, dead people come to the house and our guests will be here and they'll say, this is not a little girl down the hall and I'll say, oh, don't, nobody, it's okay. And they go, no, really? Are you babysitting? I said, no. And what it is is a case will come in the door and the dead victim will be down the hall hiding and look around the corner and they think it's an actual 4D person standing there. It's really amazing. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, I've had people come in. My house is the house of girls because my daughter was a cheerleader and the other daughter had a lot of friends and the girls would come in and they were partying, having fun to like two in the morning and they go, mom, there's some guy on the deck and I said, yeah, the guy with the brown hair and they go, yeah. I said, no, it's okay. He died. He drowned. And what's really wicked is they go, I said, pay attention to him because he'll be in the news in a couple of days. Two days later, they saw the news and they go, that was the guy on the deck. And I said, yeah, that's the guy. He told us he's lost. He can go to heaven because he's sort of in between and he's lost and he doesn't know where to go, but he knows we can see him. And I tell him, go on up, you're dead, go home. So how do you do you help cross them over to or no? No, not really. But I mean, when they come here like that, they either come here because they haven't been found, like the guy who was on the deck trying to hide from the girls because he was more scared of them than they were of him. Because he was a really good looking guy and they were like, mom, this guy's on the deck. And I said, no, no, no, no, that's a dead guy. But because it's show up in 4D, totally 4D. Yeah, totally. Listen, I'm just going to tell you real quick. My wife and I have witnessed that happening. We lived in this building and we just moved away from it as a matter of fact. But when we lived there the first time about nine years ago, we saw a lady going into this door next door to us. And, you know, I said hi to her and she just looked at me and didn't say anything. And I went on to my apartment and then my wife was coming in and she saw her with a little girl going in the same door. And she came in and said, Hey, there's a little girl next door. I think her grandmother was picking her up for school, you know, so Ari might have somebody to play with. Well, we finally met the lady that lived the next door down. And we asked her if we could come into her apartment and look at it. And I said, Are you, you know, is that your door there? And she says, Yeah, that goes to the kitchen, you know, and I said, So you're, you know, your mom's living with you. She said, No, I live here by myself. I was like, what? What do you mean by yourself? I said, I saw a lady going that door and Kim saw a lady with a little girl going that door. And she said, No, no, I live by myself. She looked totally real, totally real. Totally real. And you know what's weird is either a, they're missing. Okay. B, they've already drowned or died or whatever. And they have never been found like 50 years later. Or C, they know they can go to their safe spot. Hold on, I'm going to cough. They're safe spot, which is that location. I've also found that some of these deceased people leave the cemetery and go to the house they love so much. Why I have no idea. I might, and, and you know, it's funny because the house I live in when I move because it's on the market. These dead people will probably go with me. But what's really weird about the house I'm in is we do have some murders that happened around here. And plus I'm Richmond, Virginia. So you know, the darn civil war has an influencing factor for the ghosties. And they come here and they stand on the deck in uniform because a couple of times we thought over the cop that was here. And we look out, you know, how you look out and you're like, what's the cop doing here? And you walk over to the door and he's gone. And you're like, what's it, and you've been here thinking the standard ploy of, Oh, he walked to the front of the house. So you go towards the front of the house and he's not there. And there's no cop car. So then you realize, Oh, it's a civil war soldier. And so again, my house is haunted. But this area has a high volume of people that are either unsettled or they love the area, you know, they're very connected to the, the scenario going on here. I mean, we have some little cemeteries around here. But, but I find that the thing where you said it was then a little girl, we, I'll tell you one more funny story. My daughter had a friend and her mom would come over here because I was based on it. And she would come over here and she would get really pissed at me. And she goes, she knew I was a psychic. And she goes, Jeanette, I don't mean to be rude, but I really didn't want my daughter to be around other kids while she was being babysat. I didn't want you to have like a bunch of people to be, you know, 10 kids babysit. And I said, I don't babysit 10 kids. And she goes, yeah, you do. There's a little girl down the hall. I said, no, no, no, no, no. And I said, Jane, that's, that's, that's, I'll show you the little girl. So I pulled out the newspaper article on the little missing girl. And she goes, yeah, that's the girl. And I said, no, that's, that's a victim of crime. She goes, that's weird. And then Jane would come here and here's the kicker. Jane would go home because Jane was very intuitive. And the little girl would go up and down the hall and skip up and down the hall at Jane's house too. Because she had wood floors and I have wood floors. So she followed her home. She followed her home. She followed her home. And well, because she was sympathetic, you know, and so her name was Janet. The little girl was Janet. And I said, yeah, Janet comes wherever people love to hear her listen. And you can hear it giggling down the hall. Some people have heard babies in my house. You've heard conversations, you've heard radios on, TVs on, people talking about the TV show. I mean, it's really strange. But again, my house is in Haunted. It's just people that know that they're comfortable coming here. So I do think there's various levels of ghosties, you know? Yeah, oh yeah, definitely. That's very, very interesting. It's interesting too how, you know, people that come to your house are able to see these spirits as well. Oh yeah. I find it funny. And I'll share you one more funny, funky story. I had, it was like prom night. And the kids all spent the night here and the girls spent the night in the back and the guys spent the night in the family room, which is like 23 feet wide by or 25 by 15. And I said, look guys, you know our house is, it's not haunted, but we have this Civil War soldier that comes here and you can hear his boots go across the wood floor. Don't be scared if you hear this. You know how the, the noise is from a Civil War boot. It's like a little bit of a chain and the boot is a little heavier. So you hear a sort of stomping. You can hear it from, I'm barefooted so you can't hear it, but it, it's a definite sound. Does that make sense? Because the boots are, you know, just a stronger boot, you know? And the guys were in the, everybody went to bed and then my daughter came in the room. She goes, why don't you tell them that, you know, we have a Civil War soldier coming here. And I said, well, what do you mean lie to them? Scare the Jesus out of them. And I, it was really sort of funny. And I had gone to bed and I said to the Civil War soldier, if you don't like them, scare the ever-loving out of them. Because if they, you know, they're going to try to do something they shouldn't be doing if you get my drift because it's prom night. I said, scare them. I'm fine with that and they'll go home. Well, you know, like four in the morning, my daughter came in and goes, the guys all took Uber home because they got up and all the kitchen cabinets were open. Really? And yep. And then they went to the bathroom and came back and all the kitchen cabinets were closed. And all the guys were like, we're done. We're going home. So they took the Uber home and guess what? In the morning, I didn't have to feed a bunch of guys. So it worked for me, you know, I thought it was great. But yeah, they thought they saw something out of the corner of their eye. You know, this blue military uniform, you know, that's the North, of course. But they have definite distinctive sounds, each and every one of them. From the victim of crime, you can hear the crying, or sometimes you just hear skipping down the hall. Can you, okay, done this just, I'm sorry, I have to ask you this, it's not going to slip out of my mind. When you, okay, so when you pick up on someone that's been, you know, the victim of a crime like a violent crime, do you see them the way that they were ended up? I'll say that the way they ended up, or do you see them unharmed? Or what kind of vision do you see? Oh, they all vary. Sometimes like on a highly Bobo case, I kept seeing pieces of clothing here and there. So that gave me an idea that, oh gosh, she's in pieces. Do you know what I mean? I didn't see bones or arms and stuff like that. I'm trying to think with the missing Rabbi, I saw him coming out of the water and he looks perfectly normal, like he was dead. But he came out of the water and he was whole. Does that make sense? Yes. So he was pale, but I also had a dream and I was talking to him and he said, hey, my name is a Rabbi, blah, blah, blah. And I'll see you shortly. And they flew me to New York and I did the case on, I'm trying to think different cases. On some cases, they will show a lot of blood, but they don't show me the gore. Does that make sense? Yes. But then when I work on a case, I say, please don't show me the gore because I find that gross. It doesn't interest me. Well, what I do want to see is sometimes I'll see a knife or a gun or a rope or a pillow, each one signifying the kind of death the person went through. Recently, I had a case this past year and I was sick. So I didn't even charge the family and friends. And I said, here's the bad news. Your friend is deceased. He was killed by two or three guys. I'm going to go with, maybe even four and they carjacked him. And I did not tell them, because I saw crowbar, and I did not tell them that they used a crowbar and beat them to death. You know what I mean? I mean, I'm not going to sit there and give somebody horrific news. Oh, by the way, your relatives suffered. So they wanted to know, but I said, no, I'm not going to talk about it. Did they know that? I mean, was he missing? They did. They were trying to find that out or what? He, within a week, they found him. They found one of the killers because the guy was selling a Range Rover. I believe it was a Range Rover or Mercedes SUV. And a guy I met him at a place. And I understand there was a camera where he, the seller of the vehicle, met him and there were some particulars involved. But when they found the remains, I had to give the description of where he was. I said, he's not in the woods, but he's in the woods. I said, when you drive up, there's no paved driveway. There's no gravel. It's a road that's been used to a farmer's field. And I said, the farmer will probably find him. We don't need to go looking for him. It feels soon. And I said, but you know how you're driving down the road in the country and you can see the tire tracks, but you, but there's no real distinctive. It's not real distinctive. And I said, but he's out in this field left out there looking at the heavens. And he knows he's dead. He feels like, God, I screwed up. Oh my God. Because he never took anybody with him to sell this vehicle. And so, you know, when the family was here, they came back the next time and they wanted to know all the great details. And I just refused. I said, I'm like, no, I don't want to see that stuff either. It's not fun to see. It's a tragedy. I mean, can you imagine being beaten by a tire? But anyway, I found out later that, yes, he was killed by a tire. Do they catch the guys that did it? They caught one so far. He isn't turning the other people in, but there's no way the one guy was, he lived four hours from where the victim lives. There's no way he could have done it alone. And I did not know that he was going to sell the car. I was told he's just missing. And I said, well, you know, whoever did it, it's three or four guys, because I know I see three or four heads in the car, and he's been thrown in the back and they're going to throw him out like a piece of trash. And I said he's next to a lake or pond, whatever, a large pond on a farmer's land. And I was so sick, I had run kids at the time, so I couldn't go into too much detail. I said, give it a week or two, and we'll find him. And unfortunately, it's very tragic. So I use the word tragic, which means a really gross death, which I'm not going to find. I mean, a death is a death. I mean, all these people are grieving. I lost an aunt. And it hit me hard. So I do understand. I mean, I've had a personal connection to a homicide, and you don't want to hear all that nasty stuff. No, you don't. You don't. Good. All right. So could you or, well, let me say it like this, have you ever been involved in any serial killing, any serial killing cases? I have. In fact, I've actually recently, a few months ago, some women called from a radio show and asked me to work on a case. And I said, she was killed from a serial killer. I said, what? I said, that's a serial killer. And they go, are you sure? And I said, yeah. And they go, okay, so we're going to cut, they said, we're going to call the cop that was involved. And when they called them and they called me back and said, he, they suspected a serial killer. I said, yeah, he started at the gas station and then things went awry. And he traveled all over. So he's going to have imprints all over the place. I said, unfortunately, because it was in the 50s or 60s, probably 60s, I said, you, the only thing you can do now is try to find the remains of all the missing women. He had been known for beating women. So his violence escalated to murder. But, yeah, that was one. And but I've worked on many, I mean, I've worked on quite a few. What motivates these people? Wrong place, wrong time. You know, they're in a bad mood. They're going to just do what they please. It's, it's, it's, it's very odd behavior. Um, are you, are you working on any now or no? No, the one I have in Nevada is a, it's, it's not a serial killing. It is a, um, and I believe it's going to come to fruition. It was a homicide based on a lie. So let's say a teenager is dating an older guy and she says to her parents or stepbrothers, hey, um, this is my theory is that, oh, he raped me because he broke up with me because he found out I was 16. He thought, okay, so the victim thought she was 18 and he didn't want to see her anymore because he was uncomfortable with the fact that she was a minor. So what does she do? She makes up a story that relatives kill him. So they're the ones who are in jeopardy along with her. And, um, so he has been finally found a year, like a year later, a year and a half later. Hold on one second. Did you say the relatives killed her? I'm sorry. The relatives, her relatives killed the victim. Got you. Got you. Wow. The guy. Oh, I got you. Okay. Okay. All right. Yeah. You know, the thing is when I'm sitting here, sometimes I start seeing visions and information and it's very difficult to stay on, on, on point. And thank you for pulling me back and focusing. No, you're good. You're good. What are you seeing? You're a model. What are you seeing? Well, you know, when I'm sitting here thinking about it, the victim is a guy who was dating a teenager and he was not a bodybuilder, but he was weightlifting and he meets his cute little girl and not to be rude, but he's sleeping with a lot of women and he's like, here's one more on my belt. And I might as well have fun while I'm doing it, but then he realizes she's 16. I can't do it. And the girl makes up a big fat lie. And so I see her in the car and then I see the lie. And he paid for it with his life, you know? I mean, people have to be careful. I mean, you have to be careful who your friends are. Wow. That is sad. That's incredible. I want to let me ask you this as far as like a future show idea. Would you be open to like, if I brought you on, like if I showed you like pictures of missing people, could you pick up on that and give us like what you feel about those people? Or I mean, could that? Oh, yeah. Yeah. The way to do it, yeah. Oh, yeah. The way to do it is to say, here's one case. What are you picking up from this period? And I'll say, oh, that was a runaway or that one feels like she's alive and you're going to have to give it time and it's going to be so many years or so many months, that kind of thing. Or another one would pop up and I'll say, that person is in the water and caught up on a bridge and it feels like a bridge that looks really old. So if you're in the town, so let's say it's Pittsburgh or something, you go to the oldest bridge in Pittsburgh, go where the bridge meets the land and the bodies are right there. And the reason I said that is I had a dream one night about a bunch of women being killed and thrown in the water in Maryland. And I never told anybody because I thought, who's going to freaking listen to me? And that's the frustration I have. And I kept seeing these prostitutes being killed and thrown over near a bridge that was old. And like three weeks later, about three weeks later, three prostitutes were found near this old, old bridge and they were reconstructing the bridge like they were abandoning the old bridge and building a brand new bridge. And that's where the bodies were and they were all entangled with the water and the bridge. And that's the serial killer was doing it. Yeah. And to my knowledge, they caught him in everything. So, but it was at least three women. Okay. So I would just, I don't need, you don't need the picture or anything. Is that the best way to go about doing that? Oh, I like a picture. I like knowing the name of the town and the state. Okay. And let's say she's called Pauline Smith. I need to know it's the Pauline Smith from like Chickahomani, Tennessee. And, and I'll say, Oh yeah, that one's, you know, so in other words, let's say I said, Oh, that one is over murdered by a mechanic because I see a, you know, a dirty greasy, a grease ball, you know, they're called grease, grease monkeys. And she's buried over in the back behind where all the cars are. And he's got her back there because he thinks it's funny, which is not funny, but he's a redneck and he killed her. Yada, yada. Then they'll say, Oh, well, or it's a little girl and I'll say, Oh, the mom, children, I think the link is the mom was going crazy. And children can drive parents crazy. I get it. My kids drove me crazy. I didn't kill them, but I get it. I understand why some parents are uncomfortable to the point of, you know, let's silence them. But where's that going to get you? You know, true. Like 20 minutes later, they're going to keep screaming. You got that right. Totally, totally get it. Let's go ahead and talk about the Chandra Levy case. And, you know, before you actually get into it, for those that haven't heard about the case, can you tell us about it? And then how you got involved in that, if you don't mind. All right. So I was living 15 minutes from DC. And I was given a call by a guy by the name of Keith Gerald, who was heavily involved with politics and the church and his community in DC. So he lived in DC. And he was also big into gay rights in DC. So he was involved with all those organizations trying to make things come together. And he called me and said, there's a missing girl from DC. Can you can you help with locating her? And I said, Yeah, why? And he goes, Well, I'm sitting here with an FBI agent. And if I could bring him to your house, because I just had a baby. And I'll you tell me where her body is, and we'll go take care of it. I said, Okay. And they came over and I taped it because I just found the tape the other day. I was so excited. I was like, Oh, my God, I have proof I did it. And they sat down and I did a little prayer, which involved it's like it causes a trigger in the brain to turn on, you know, okay, we're going to focus in on this movie called Chandra Levy. And Brad Garrett was the FBI agent. Very nice. And I just said, Oh, she's from Rock Creek Parkway. And he goes, What? I said, Okay, so I said, she's right next to the police station. So let's say you have 200 acres or 500 acres at Rock Creek Parkway, which is in the center of DC, you know, Manhattan, Manhattan has the big parking park in Manhattan. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, so we have this big park in DC. And I said, So there's two police stations. I said, she's at the police station where they take care of the horses, not the ones where the guys drive in drive out with their cars, go to the horse police station because DC Tennessee might have it, where they have police stations where the guys are just using horses, you know, we don't have it. But I know exactly what you're talking about. You know what I'm talking about. It's a totally different look. It's a stable, you know, it's police with stables. And so I said, you go down the hill from the stable where the horses are, and you walk right there in the creek bed, and she's right there. And I said, she's hogtied. And I can't miss her. And then they had me either that day or the next day. And here I am all stitched up from a C section and massive pain. And I said, the killer lives over in Anacostia, which is the southeast part of DC. And so they took me down to Anacostia, I said, take me down there. I'll tell you where he went. And we went down to a road and I said, Oh my God, he parked right here. They said, What? I said, He parked right here. This is identical to the vision I got. He was right here. He lives, and I start giving all the details. I said, he lives upstairs of a gas station. A elderly woman lives there. And he lives upstairs like he's the son of the elderly woman, but they're not related. I don't think they're related. So he ran some room. I think he started out because I saw a vision of him opening drawer of his dresser. And I saw these panties. And I was like, Oh my God, he's a rapist and he's keeping his little trophies of panties from women he raped. And I said, So he lives right next door to the gas station. And I believe he's, I think he's MS 13. I said, he's going to go to Georgia, then he's going to get a California. And then that's when you're going to catch him when he goes to California because the DNA will match. And that's when they caught him because I was in a read again. And I said, they came to see me again after the whole case was over and a reporter came in and talked to me. And I guess it was two years later and she goes, What do you think? And I said, He's in California now, you can do the DNA run and you can catch him. And they did the DNA run. And that's how they caught him. So that was pretty cool. Okay. So they were trying to say that that who was that he was a Congressman or a senator or she was having an affair with the senator or Congress. He didn't have anything to do with it. No, no, he was being a naughty boy playing with pornography and stuff like that. And his behavior was really not necessary for his position. He was being very unprofessional. Plus, he was married with like six kids. And why would you have an affair on your wife, even though you're in DC, bring your wife to DC? So he was not very polished or filtered. And so they assumed because of his pornography on his computers and all that stuff that he was involved in her killing, but he wasn't involved with it at all. He was just being very naughty. I see. Okay, I've always wondered that. Yeah, I was trying to say he had her killed and things like that. You know, I've read a lot of things about it. He looked guilty as hell, didn't he? Oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah, he really did. I mean, I was like, what were you thinking? I could go on for days having you on here, but we better wrap this one up and I will definitely have you come back and and set up another show where we're going to see if you can pick up some things about some of the, you know, more infamous missing persons cases. You know, I think that would be a great show. And yeah, let's do it. Absolutely. So, Jeanette, before we go, I want you to take a moment to tell my listeners where they can find out more information about you or anything else you're working on. Sure. Well, right now, the media is going to attack a case in Delaware. So if they're going to talk about me, it's going to be Delaware about a Lonnie Pinkston, I believe, missing person case and homicide. Because it's 16, 17 years old, the anniversary just happened and they're going to try to finalize our case closure on the cold case. Regarding my work, if people want to call me, they can always call me on my cell phone, 571-358-1444. 571-358-1444. And I do the standard reading, and if I can't help you, I'll send you this, everyone who can. And if I can't help you, I can't help you. And my website is reach, R-E-A-C-H, Jeanette.com, R-E-A-C-H, Jeanette, G-I-N-E-T-P-E, dot com. And it was a privilege to be on your show. Absolutely. Let me ask you a little something here real quick. You mentioned Lonnie Pinkston and I just looked him up. Are they going to be talking about, are they reaching out to you for help on this case or why would that be in the news? Okay, so I already did the case. Yeah, I already did the case. I told him who killed him and gave him a name. And then I said he was with another guy and then this crazy woman. And so apparently, the woman who was crazy told people, yes, this particular individual did kill him with his cousin. The cousin is now deceased. And now, I don't know what they want from me now, except for they want to do an article about the anniversary of the murder, the homicide itself, and trying to get the police in Delaware to reopen the case again. Because it's a cold case. But I told the cops that the guy that killed him moved to, unfortunately, Tennessee. Really? Wow. Do you know where in Tennessee? I wouldn't be surprised that he's in and out of Memphis or Nashville. Okay. So they did track him down. They found him a couple of times over in here in Memphis in Nashville. I'm pretty good geographically. Yeah. Interesting. Interesting. All right. Well, I'll tell you what, this has been a great show and I can't wait to bring you back. Jeanette, many blessings to you and I really appreciate your time. Oh, sure. Sure. I mean, who doesn't love the paranormal? To find out more about our guest and all others, please visit our website at mysteriousradio.com.