Throwbacks with Matt Leinart & Jerry Ferrara

Charissa Thompson on Super Bowl LX, “Calm Down” with Erin Andrews and Stalking Matt at USC

47 min
Feb 5, 20262 months ago
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Summary

Matt Leinart and Jerry Ferrara host sports broadcaster Charissa Thompson to discuss Super Bowl LX between the Seattle Seahawks and New England Patriots, covering her career journey, the podcast 'Calm Down' with Erin Andrews, and Super Bowl predictions with guest Annie Agar.

Insights
  • Women in sports broadcasting require humility, hard work, and kindness to navigate an industry where opportunities open quickly but can close just as fast
  • Building authentic personal brands through podcasts allows established broadcasters to showcase personality beyond their on-air professional personas
  • Super Bowl coverage represents the pinnacle of sports broadcasting careers, with preparation and emotional investment differing significantly from regular season work
  • Networking and relationship-building remain critical in sports media, with Super Bowl week serving as a concentrated hub for industry connections
  • Underdog narratives and coaching philosophy (like Mike Vrabel's approach) can significantly influence Super Bowl outcomes beyond raw talent assessment
Trends
Established sports broadcasters launching companion podcasts to build direct audience relationshipsWomen sports broadcasters increasingly leveraging authenticity and self-deprecation as brand differentiationSuper Bowl media coverage becoming more distributed across multiple networks (Fox, NBC, CBS, ESPN) rather than single-broadcaster exclusivityAthlete-turned-broadcaster transition becoming standard career path for former NFL/NBA playersSports media personalities using multi-platform presence (TV, podcasts, social media) to maximize career longevityCoaching staff personality and media engagement becoming part of Super Bowl narrative analysisRadio Row consolidation and earlier media activation in Super Bowl week indicating increased competition for coverageDiversity in sports broadcasting roles expanding beyond play-by-play to include hosting, analysis, and podcast platforms
Topics
Super Bowl LX Seahawks vs Patriots matchup analysisWomen in sports broadcasting career developmentPodcast strategy for established media personalitiesSuper Bowl preparation and coverage logisticsSports broadcaster career trajectory and networkingCoaching philosophy and team narrative buildingMulti-platform media strategy for sports personalitiesRadio Row media activation and Super Bowl week schedulingSports broadcasting industry challenges and opportunitiesHalftime show performance history and cultural impactNFL draft and player development narrativesDefensive player MVP potential in Super BowlQuarterback performance under pressure in championship gamesSports media work-life balance during major eventsMentorship and support systems in sports broadcasting
Companies
Fox Sports
Charissa Thompson's primary employer; hosts NFL Kickoff and Thursday Night Football coverage; does not have Super Bow...
Amazon Prime Video
Broadcasts Thursday Night Football; Charissa Thompson hosts pregame show; Richard Sherman works as analyst
ESPN
Now involved in Super Bowl broadcasting alongside NBC and CBS in shared rotation model
NBC
Super Bowl LX broadcast partner sharing coverage rights with CBS and ESPN
CBS
Super Bowl LX broadcast partner sharing coverage rights with NBC and ESPN
People
Charissa Thompson
Fox Sports broadcaster and podcast host; guest discussing Super Bowl coverage, career journey, and industry insights
Erin Andrews
Co-host of 'Calm Down' podcast with Charissa Thompson; sports broadcaster and analyst
Sam Darnold
Seattle Seahawks quarterback; nicknamed 'Red Hammer'; subject of Super Bowl MVP predictions
Mike Vrabel
New England Patriots head coach; discussed as strategic mastermind and potential Super Bowl narrative driver
Drake Maye
New England Patriots quarterback; discussed regarding shoulder injury and Super Bowl performance
Malcolm Butler
Defensive back; made iconic interception in 2014 Super Bowl XLIX between Patriots and Seahawks
Russell Wilson
Former Seattle Seahawks quarterback; threw interception in Super Bowl XLIX that Charissa Thompson covered
Tom Brady
Former Patriots quarterback; referenced regarding injury reporting and Super Bowl history
Rob Gronkowski
Former Patriots tight end; works with Charissa Thompson on Fox NFL Sunday studio coverage
Richard Sherman
Former Seahawks cornerback; works as analyst for Amazon Prime Video Thursday Night Football
Matthew Stafford
NFL quarterback; credited with introducing Charissa Thompson to her current boyfriend
Jackson Smith-Njigba
Seattle Seahawks receiver; discussed as potential Super Bowl MVP candidate
Christian Gonzalez
New England Patriots defensive back; discussed as potential defensive MVP candidate
Quotes
"I grew up wanting to be a sports broadcaster. That was like, there was no plan B. The same way you maybe wanted to be an actor or Matt wanted to be an athlete. Like, I didn't have a plan B. It was like, this either works or it doesn't."
Charissa ThompsonOpening segment
"For me, it's always been about humility. Like this is this thing, whether you're an athlete, whether you're a sports broadcaster, whether you're an actor, like all of this stuff is fleeting and it's all taken away in two seconds if you don't appreciate it."
Charissa ThompsonCareer advice segment
"I don't trust the Patriots and Vrabel. I just, they're up to something. I don't like it. Vrabel already on busting with the boys, making penis jokes. Like, he's too calm."
Jerry FerraraSuper Bowl predictions
"You're only as good as your teammates. So if I sit on that desk and I come in as a fill in host, you guys could be complete jerks to me and it will make it not an enjoyable show or it makes it harder for me."
Charissa ThompsonIndustry advice segment
"If I could go back and tell the younger me, I get to stand on this field. I was standing on the field when Malcolm Butler intercepts Russell Wilson 11 years ago in that horrific moment."
Charissa ThompsonSuper Bowl coverage discussion
Full Transcript
I grew up wanting to be a sports broadcaster. That was like, there was no plan B. The same way you maybe wanted to be an actor or Matt wanted to be an athlete. Like, I didn't have a plan B. It was like, this either works or it doesn't. And so the first time I ever got to cover a Super Bowl, I was thinking to myself, like, holy shit, if I could go back and tell the younger me, I get to stand on this field. I was standing on the field when Malcolm Butler intercepts Russell Wilson 11 years ago in that horrific moment. all right welcome to another episode of throwbacks do me let's do us a favor throw us a follow throw us a sub hit that subscribe button on youtube throwback show it's free we love it we need it it's free just do it we appreciate all the love and support it's a big week chair it's a big week i mean it is a huge week i i always get sad around this week though matt because it means it's over you know and i know fortunately the knicks are like uh doing okay but it's a long way to go till may till like playoff basketball even too so yeah i know it is it is a bummer we always talk about this the fall is is the greatest time i think of sports you got college football you got football you got baseball world series then nba starts and now the culmination of the NFL. It's obviously we're going to talk about the Super Bowl this whole episode because it's going to be awesome and it's always a fun weekend. But that's just not the biggest news that's happened in the world. Has something happened, Matt? I mean, I don't know. I mean, do you care to tell the world? It has happened. the third Ferrara baby was born January 31st, roughly 149 in the morning. Fuck yeah, baby, let's go. And, you know, all this weight of like, is it a boy, is it a girl? We waited to find out. And when the baby was born, neither of us looked at that right away. Really? Oh, shit. Well, we kind of like. I looked at it right away. I kind of like locked in with her, made sure she was all right. She just like grabbed the baby and like hugged it. And like none of us like lifted a leg and did like what? so it was like a two minute delay and then we're like what is it and it was this big reveal and it was a boy yeah listen all you guys do are make big boys and i text you the ferrara name lives on for generations bro that's that's a big that's a big deal dude think about that and fortunately you know brie's doing really well the baby's doing really well and that's all you really want but i did like 24 hours after the birth i'm like brie if you want to just have this one's last name be Reconos. That's fine. I felt not felt bad. I'm like, you know, I got I got to give her something here. And another big reveal. We do not have a name yet. And that is not a joke, Matt. We do not. Well, I think we should be taking bets on the name. I'm not going to give up. I know what you guys are thinking potentially. So I'm not going to say that. But I feel like we should post this online and let let the fans vote. Let's let the fans get to an online vote. The only thing I was trying to say, too, and this did not go over well, but I feel like you would understand at least where I'm coming from as a story what if we just name this dude after the Super Bowl MVP and then when you start looking at the odds it's like okay Drake Sam strong could be like there's a Jackson up there super strong Jack there's also there's a there's a Kenneth Kenneth Kenny Kenny come on Kenny Stefan Stefan Ferrara Hunter Hunter or Henry Hunter or Henry I think we should I think we should let the fans decide i think you should post this tomorrow morning give them your give them your top give give the world yours and breeze top three names that you're thinking and let's see let's let it play out let's let it play out let's let the fans decide i think one of the hardest things to do if you are a father out there as all the either expecting or future fathers is naming a boy to me it is we had a hundred great girl names like the boys i don't know because there's so many traditional normal boy names and you kind of want to go against the grain a little bit but there aren't that many options and like you start thinking like 20 years from now do you want to name him something like a nickname-y kind of thing and then like he walks in for a job interview and it's like hi i'm uh i'm kid i'm cubby you know well listen buddy i'm proud of you guys man i'm happy for you be proud of her i didn't do a lot i'm proud i know but i'm proud of you you you know it was i know this is a tough decision you You know what, Matt? I partially blame you for this because there was really not a whole lot of third baby talk. I'm not sorry, though. I'm not sorry. You're welcome. You're welcome. By the way, we're like catching up to some of these players who have like nine kids. We're catching up. We're up there on the list. We should just do a whole segment on the guys who have the most kids from these athletes. You got to be like middle to late of the pack. Like you're not in the top. I have four. Four is bottom of the pile with some guys that I know, buddy. You multiply that by two or three. I mean, look at Phillip Rivers. Phillip Rivers got double digits. he's a grandfather i mean cromarty was peak hard knocks when he said that on hard knocks i got like an eight-year-old a seven-year-old two four-year-olds oh you have twins you have twins no oh yeah at that point it all just kind of like like birthdays they all just kind of fall together right like do you really like i i have a hard time remembering my four kids birthdays in the years let alone 14 or 10 of them but at that point i think you just give up listen congratulations buddy it's awesome i know well she's doing great and you know who else is doing really well because it is super bowl week and she kind of shines this week we have a great guest this week we have carissa thompson someone you've worked along with i've known ct forever man she's awesome um yeah gosh when when when fs1 launched in like 2012 or 2013 um and ct chris has been around a long time and she's a pro she's done everything she is she is a she's a you know she's kind of a trailblazer i think for women in this industry she's done it she's done it a high level professional she continues to kick ass um and she's a good friend but when i first got into tv at fs1 there was like kind of an fs live which was like fox's fox sports version of highlights and all that kind of stuff um and then i did a show and she would host a show like a kind of like a players player show players only i think it was called and it was like gary payton and it was uh donovan mcnab and it was andy roddick and it was just like right it was cool so like that's where i first got my start i would be i would do kind of guest spots and just do that and then and then yeah then we did like a little bit of a college football show together and um the rest is history but yeah she's she's she knows football as well as anybody you know she does amazon's pregame show thursday night she does our fox nfl sunday morning show kick off to sunday so she's she's an absolute beast she's awesome she's great she's hilarious dude you gotta stick around for this because she's she's the funniest storyteller as well yeah i'm glad she was able to fit us in because i feel like her oh yeah super bowl week schedule probably is outside of the players and coaches might be the busiest so oh yeah she fit us in for like 20 she gave us 20 solid 20 yeah i appreciate that all right so before we bring on Carissa. This is going to be a fun one because it's time for our Wendy's Fresh Take of the Week. Fresh Take of the Week is presented, of course, by Wendy's. Get yourself a $4 Biggie Bites, $6 Biggie Bag, or $8 Biggie Bundle. That's where I would go with. Now at Wendy's. So Matt, for this week, our Fresh Take is going to be our favorite Super Bowl halftime performance. Our personal favorite, not the public, our personal favorite. Would you like to go first or would you like me to dive in first? I'm going to go first because I really don't have – I really have no idea what you're going to say to this. Okay. I'm going to give an honorable mention first, 2020 Shakira and J-Lo, just because they look good doing it. I'm a big Shakira fan, big Shakira fan. But here, this one, I'm not really going off a ledge here with this pick, but it was my favorite because it was West Coast, and it was 2022 halftime show in LA with Dre, Snoop, Eminem. Don't forget about 50. 50 made an appearance. Mary J. Blige made an appearance. But it opens up with Dre on the piano and doing his thing. And being a West Coast guy, knowing Snoop from back in the USC days, I just thought that halftime was like an ode to old school. And anyone that was born in the 80s or 90s just was like standing up, bobbing their head and being like, oh, hell yeah, let's do it. So that's that's the most memorable one for me. You know, there were great ones, obviously, probably when we were younger, like Prince and Michael Jackson, all that. But one that I can remember that I was I was like, oh, yeah, I'm going to rewind that and watch it again. It was a couple of years ago, the L.A. halftime show. That's a great one, especially to we're about the same age. I got a few years. That's just like those are the dudes we grew up with. you know so for like the old head in me it was like oh like this is the one where like i got no idea where you're gonna go with this one well here's where i went with it and i really thought about this for a while and the michael jackson 1993 performance is my vote this has nothing to do with any around i'm talking about just super bowl performance because i think that's when everybody knew they got to step their game up it was it was yeah i mean he was after that one it was like okay no more of this disney like we have to step on he's the reason why people get excited for the halftime show and to me that i that's like kind of the first one i could really remember i was like 12 years old i mean i remember one but that's the first one that stuck out um and whatever your thoughts are on michael jackson you cannot take away the fact that he did that performance 93 and everybody said we better get in the lab what about what about the nip slip that's look i thought that That was a great one, too. That's a great one. That's moment, not performance. Moment. For sure. And look, you could even like Prince famously 07. Can't take that away from Prince. But again, I think you get Prince because you had MJ in 93. So and who knows how this one. What are your thoughts on, before we wrap it up, man? What are your thoughts on Bad Bunny? Are you, I mean, are you going to? Look, I am. No, I don't even know what song he's saying. I really do enjoy the halftime shows. But for me, when I'm watching at all, like I've only been to one Super Bowl. I mean, I've been to a bunch, but I went to the Usher performance in Vegas. Right. And it was cool to be there. It was cool. Of course, I like Usher's music. I usually when the halftime show goes, I get up, I stretch my legs, I get a little food and I casually watch. So I'm like, it's probably going to be great. I'm going to do what I always do. I'm going to get some food, have a drink and see what the man has. Yeah it created quite the stir amongst fans So we see what he brings to the table But dude it going to be fun man It going to be a good one And I think it time now to get to the great and talented Carissa Thompson joining us All right. So we're joined by the host of Fox NFL Kickoff on Sunday mornings and Prime Videos Thursday Night Football Tonight, as well as the Calm Down podcast. alongside her best friend EA Erin Andrews. I don't know if this was true. A record-setting high school javelin thrower. Is that accurate? Yes. Okay, hold on. Before you answer that. And the face of Lee Johnson Chevrolet in the Northwest. Carissa Thompson. What's up? What's up? That is quite an intro. I mean, some would be embarrassed by that, but not me. Not me at all. Did you throw the javelin? Yeah, the story behind that. Hi, Matt. Hi, Jerry. Thank you for having me on. the story but i tried to pride myself as an athlete i made varsity as a sophomore we're only a three-year high school school so i was like i'm killing it the only other girl that made varsity as a sophomore was six five so she didn't make it it's a problem so i'm like i am such an athlete obviously so i want to stay in shape for basketball year round i'm playing aau but for my high school team i was like i'm gonna run track to stay in shape first event 300 hurdles knock them all over The coach looks at me and he goes, hey, there's a field portion of this program. You go throw the javelin, do something other than running. And I ended up loving it. Ironically, though, my boyfriend in high school also threw the javelin and we had broken up. So he thought it was like a whole scam to just like for me to be close to him. And I'm like, ew, get over yourself. Definitely needed Tommy John surgery after throwing the javelin. I called Neil Eletraj. I was like, yo, no, I'm kidding. But yeah, I held a record for a couple of weeks. I'm sure it's been broken by now, but here we are. I feel like that's a whole rom-com like Love and Basketball, except the track and field version. That would be amazing. The soundtrack for that movie, Maxwell, forget it. It's a way to weave in Matt's alma mater, fight on, because definitely the track drop was SC. Got it. Yeah. Are you with us? Love and Basketball? He's seen Love and Basketball. I try to remake that movie every year. Yeah, they played at SC. Oh, they played at SC, yeah. I was going to say, was DiCaprio in that movie? No. No, you're thinking of basketball diaries. Oh, basketball diaries. That's right. Love and basketball. I've seen it. It's at USC. Yes, I got it. That way, how far back do you guys go? You feel like you guys know each other for a while. You guys go way back, right? Let's tell the story, Matt. So in college, I dated a USC baseball player. So I went to school at UC Santa Barbara, go Gauchos. And my boyfriend was on the baseball team. Well, I had a massive crush on Matt. And his wife, Josie, knows this. It's every it's already been discovered because everyone in the country had a massive crush on Matt Liner. You're the quarterback of USC, the national champions that you are. So my boyfriend even knew that I had a crush on him. So that's how that's how it went. Anyways, I would see Matt at a Mexican restaurant that was near campus called El Cholo. And I would like stare at him awkwardly. And then my boyfriend's like, you're making this really weird. I was like, oh, am I? Anyways, Matt and I didn't know each other. then I was just his stalker. And then we formally met when he started working at Fox. But yeah, now I consider him more of a brother. Listen, we, you know, we hung out, we're good friends. And I always tell Josie said all of those experiences and things all lead to your significant other. So they all led me. My wife asked me all this shit all the time. I said, listen, babe, it doesn't matter if I dated her or not. Like it all led me to you. Just like it I wanted to date Matt, but he was very busy with like, you know, Cindy Mancini, the captain of the cheerleaders. For those of you that get the reference, you get the Heisman was probably weighing him down to like when you walk around with it all. Yeah, like his bookshelf or whatever. He's got it on back there. But I will say this about Carissa and who I just love. And you are awesome. We did. I was telling Jerry this. We did his FS live show together in like 20. Remember that? 2014. So it's my well, you're a pro. You've been doing it forever. That was my first year kind of getting to TV. And we did a show. It was who was on the show with us. It was so Travis. Jerry, do you remember this show? The Best Damn Sports Show? I've been on it. I was fortunate enough to be on it before. Yeah, I wish this show could still exist today. This show was awesome. So it was for those of you that don't know, it was a late basically like a late night sports talk show. The host was Chris Rose, Rob Dibble. You had Rodney Peet, Michael Strahan. That was the first place he used to come to actually he was still playing for the giants when he'd come on Anyways, it was an awesome show. So they tried to recreate that idea, but in conjunction with highlights So they had two guys dan and jay who came over down from canada tsn They would do highlights and then we would do the like late night talk show roundtable vibe So matt you would come on gabe kapler Um, that you know, um, we had donovan mcnab. We had gary payton Andy Roddick was also so great Andy Roddick is so sneaky funny and he's so dry it was great anyways um so Matt was new to television and you were great you were such a team player because this was like local news it was definitely not not our best moments but we made the most of it it was so it was so fun too and and you probably saw this but that's when I used to bring Cole around and Cole was like six or seven. And I remember we're in the green room and I have two, two crazy stories. I remember the whole rock. Remember he painted you the rock or whatever. And I think you kept it forever. And then also we're in the green room and, and, and like, I love Gary Payton growing up Jerry as I'm sure he did. And I think we brought like playing cards or trading cards. And he was sitting with Cole. I don't know if you remember this, Chris, that he was sitting with Cole and Cole was open to pack a cards with him. And he was just going like, oh he was ass oh he's commenting on every player it was just i had a video of it on my old phone i lost it but it was so great and now i just sent cole off to college so you know oh my gosh he's in i know well we're old it happens but cole i have to say your parent report card because this is important for me to say because my parents always talk about this thing called the parent report card if somebody comes up to them and says oh your son or your daughter's so nice that gives them an A plus. Pull is such a kind, great mannered, look you in the eye, shake your hand, kid. So your parent report card on him is an A plus. Well done. Well, I appreciate that. Thank you. It's true. I've had a tough couple of weeks over here. Matt's been crying since he dropped him off at college. He's using those bounty paper towels behind you to dry his tears when he dropped off his kid. No matter how many tears you cry, they're so durable. Exactly. Well, before, yeah, what are you doing with bounty before we get into, I wanted to talk about the Super Bowl too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We can talk about all of it because there's synergy here. As the host, I like to weave these things in. So the Super Bowl, of course, the New England Patriots. I'm from Seattle, so the Seattle Seahawks. So Rob Gronkowski, even before we knew that we would be partnering up with such a great product like these bounty paper towels behind me, Gronk and I get the privilege of spending every Sunday together in studio. Matt is very familiar with the green room we call it the avocado room because we're fun at Fox and Matt knows there's a massive spread in there everyone's eating and throughout the day I mean we're there for 12 hours watching football so Gronk and I will like be eating all the stuff we'll spill it everywhere and then people will remind us that we need to go back on national television so get it together so luckily we have bounty to clean up the messes we spill on ourselves and on the counter or anything else. So as we know that, you know, tailgating and Super Bowls also have a lot of parties. So you can't have football without wings and you can't have wings without bounty. So Rob Gronkowski is my wingman and I'm his wing woman and just love him. I wanted to ask you, what is it like when Fox has the Super Bowl for you? Like, what is that entire, like your preparation, you know, it's got to just be a little different, right? I mean, you could probably prepare the same way. I don't know. But the Super Bowl, I get nervous thinking about like, oh, I'm covering the Super Bowl. Of course. Are you kidding me? Like I, Jerry, I don't know. Like I grew up wanting to be a sports broadcaster. That was like there was no plan B the same way you maybe wanted to be an actor or Matt wanted to be an athlete. Like I didn't have a plan B. It was like this either works or it doesn't. And so the first time I ever got to cover a Super Bowl, I was thinking to myself like, oh, if I could go back and tell the younger me, I get to stand on this field. I was standing on the field when Malcolm Butler intercepts Russell Wilson, you know, this now the last time the Patriots and Seahawks met 11 years ago in that horrific moment, if you are a Seattle Seahawks fan. But like being I was there on the field when the perfect season for the Patriots was ruined by the New York Jets. And Randy Moss walks by me and off the field member and they had to try to call them back because they left the field before the game was even over. So just sitting there in these iconic moments as a fan of sports, wanting to always do this job, I never, ever, ever take it for granted. I've been lucky enough to do this for almost 20 years and just had incredible front row seats to these sporting events. But yes, to your point, I'm sad that Fox doesn't get to cover it this year. Obviously, we have to we have to share it equally with the other broadcasting partners like NBC and CBS. But and then ESPN now is involved. But I love it. I love covering it. I'm bummed that I'm not going to actually have the credential to cover it this year, but I'm excited. What a great matchup. I mean, look, nobody predicted this at the beginning of the year. And I don't need to tell you guys all the subplots and storylines for all of this. and matt i'm curious because i haven't talked to you yet since uh the nfc championship game your sam darnold's opinion love yeah i love sam but we nicknamed him the red rocket on this show or the red hammer the red hammer because famously his great grandpa was like the marble man and he was richard hammer yeah his name i think his name was richard hammer like his acting stage name dick hammer was his name actually what a great so sam darnold is the red hammer us we're the only people who call him the red i'm just i'm just so happy yeah i'm so happy for him because obviously he's had such a and i've and i've i've been a part of that where you just kind of get lost sometimes in organizations and he's been kind of just thrown around and for him to have the success that he's had is awesome um and playing for your hometown team are you a i'm obviously you're probably a diehard seahawks fan right growing up in the north pacific northwest I will say, you know, admittingly, 10 years ago when, you know, with a legion of boom and it was the first like, yes, I'll be at the Seahawks had been to the Super Bowl with Matt Hasselbeck in that game that ended up losing to the Steelers. But it was 10 years ago. Like there wasn't anything like that group. The Richard Sherman's who obviously I now work with over at Amazon. But like that, the Cam Chancellor, the Earl Thomas, like that, that whole nickname for a defense. It was very special Yeah So I was like all in 10 years ago on saying I was a diehard fan I now a fan of sports in Seattle for a couple of different reasons One we lost the Sonics And so like in Seattle, that was a shame that should never happened. Should never happened. And so sports in Seattle, you saw what happened with the World Series. My mother is still, we'll never get over it with the Mariners, but it's so amazing for the city. So I love it. Like my i took my dad and my brother to the nfc championship game and they were thrilled like it's just an awesome sports town they deserve that it's obviously been over a decade since uh they've been back so i'm happy for them but also matt like you know me well enough to like you've developed relationships with yeah ships with these guys in the league and i didn't want anyone to lose i mean i met i was introduced matt will attest jerry i was terrible at picking men terrible my I should not have been a GM at ever in terms of dating like mine were all busts all your draft picks but did not work out you got a great man right now though you got a great man thank you so Matt knows my terrible track record and so I met my current boyfriend of three years which is the longest relationship I've ever had because Matthew Stafford was like yo you suck at picking men so here's a guy you should date so when I'm now I'm with my new boyfriend because of the Stafford family. And so it's things like that where like during that game, I was so torn because I'm like, I love the Staffords, but then also I want Seattle to win. So I'm happy that Seattle's in it. It's great for new England on the other side too, because imagine being Drake Bay or the pressure that comes with trying to fill the shoes of Tom Brady and be that next dynasty. So good for that young man. And I don't know, Jerry, you're a massive sports fan. Your take on this game is what? Here's what I'm concerned. Cause like, obviously after watching the Seahawks and the Rams battle like they did, it's like you want to assume that is probably going to be the champ. But I can't think of a team I'd want to give the no one believes in us thing to less than the Patriots and Mike Vrabel. Because I'm sure he's going to take little bulletins and put it up saying everyone thinks our schedule sucked, we didn't play a real defense, we didn't play a real quarterback. So he's using all of that because he's such a good coach. That, if I'm Seattle, I'm like every time someone in the media is like, the Patriots didn't beat anybody, I'd be like, stop. saying that let this game play out because that scares me having vrabel and a no and like no one believes we could win the super bowl with this team that's scary for the seniors i think well that's always that you know any on any there's an expression for a reason on any given sunday right i mean now in sports it's monday thursday sunday sometimes saturday but yeah i mean it's why you play the game so i i'm just i'm looking forward to all the subplots the storylines and it's still the super bowl the nfl is the greatest sport so it'll be good no matter what chrissy you You, I always, I admire you. You know, we're close friends, but I've just admired you for all the stuff you've done. You're so versatile in a tough industry, I think. And as you said, you were kind of born and you wanted to be in this. I'd be curious of just what is your advice to young girls who aspire to be you or to do the things that you are getting to do? You're living out your dream as we speak. Thanks, Matt. That's very nice. I appreciate your endorsement as a friend, but as a colleague as well. I would say, you know, for me, it's always been about humility. Like this is this thing, whether you're an athlete, whether you're a sports broadcaster, whether you're an actor, like all of this stuff is fleeting and it's, it's all taken away in two seconds if you don't appreciate it. And for me, it's always been, you know, appreciate your position, but remember how you got there. Like never as cliche as it all sounds like, don't not do your homework, don't work hard, but also be nice along the way. Like that kind of stuff for me is I try to have that voice in the back of my head of if my parents were here right now and they saw me, would they be proud of the person that I was being? And I understand that sometimes the job comes with different stresses and things like that. But my advice to anybody that wants to get into a difficult industry is have humility, work hard and be a nice person and hope that those things can carry you through. But also, you know, so many times people say to me like, oh, being a woman in sports, It's like a woman might open more doors because there's not as many of us, but also they can close quicker. So making sure that, hey, let's not try to pretend you know everything here and asking those questions and being like for you, you know, you've been such a good friend along the way. Like I remember what I had to fill in on the college football shows, right? When Rob was gone, I think he was doing soccer or something. You know, you're only as good as your teammates. So if I sit on that desk and I come in as a fill in host, you guys could be complete jerks to me and it will make it not an enjoyable show or it makes it harder for me. So for me, it's always been sitting in that host chair. I'm only as good as the people around me. And I've been so fortunate in the two decades of doing this to have really good people around me at Fox and at Amazon. So yeah, it's just, it's, it's a combination of all those things. Well, that's what I jazz music behind me. I mean, you guys, I can't hear it. I think you might hear this. Is this part of your Is there a writer that you want me to listen to jazz music in the background? It's so, it's just so right. I was going to say, like, I got really excited when you guys announced your podcast. Because I'm like, you know, rarely do we ever see two people, usually kind of, we even see with players, right? Like, we have, like, active players who don't really say a whole lot, unless Draymond Green says a lot of stuff. And then, like, the retired players kind of let stuff fly. And you and Aaron started the Calm Down podcast while you're literally in the height of your careers. And I thought that was such a good move because you don't ever see the behind the scenes and the other side of what's going on in your life. We see you when you're doing your job and you're great and we all know you. But for me, I enjoyed that because I really started thinking what people, whether it's broadcast, whatever their media positions are, who are currently doing it, who also are having a show with their friend and they're kind of just being themselves and talking. So was that was that like an easy yes for you to do that? Or was that took a little more time for both of you? Well, to be honest, Sherry, I think a lot of it was that Aaron and I have, you know, admittingly, there's been a lot of things that have happened to us for first personally, professionally stuff that you sit there and go, I'd like a do over on that or I'd like it. You know, Aaron and I always lead with self deprecation. I think it's our way to disarm or, you know, be like, oh, look, I've got this massive zit on my face. Everyone's like, I didn't even notice it, but it's like, we need to come into the room and just say the things that we think that everybody else is already thinking. So now we're endearing to the audience. And I think at some point in her and I can both work on that because you don't always have to do that. But I think professionally, we got to a place where we were comfortable enough to be like, Hey, not everyone's going to like us and that's okay. And, but we are comfortable enough in who we are or professionally, what we've done to sit there and have conversations that maybe we wouldn't have had 10 years prior to that because we hadn't put, we hadn't built up enough equity in it. And Matt knows me well enough to know that like, I'm the first to raise my hand and admit when I'm wrong on stuff. And Hey, I could, you know, I'm the person that if I have that turnover in a basketball game, I run back down the court and I'm like, that's my bad, you know? Because I think that's so important to acknowledge that. So for us, in terms of a platform of calm down, it's an opportunity, Aaron, you know, in her role doesn't get as much time on TV as I have. I have the luxury of doing a pregame show that's an hour, halftime show, a postgame show that's an hour. On Sundays, I get a whole other hour. So for Erin, I think it's been, at least just even as her friend, it's been nice to see other people see Erin's personality, whereas they might not see that so much throughout a game because it's more X's and O's and not really allowing her to show how funny and it's self-deprecating, but yes, also successful. So all of those things it's been a nice medium and you guys like same for you like don't you find like this platform is so fun to to be able to talk yeah especially when you enjoy the person that you're doing it with right and you have a real friendship story sorry to interrupt you well we're like reverse we actually like met through this podcast but then with the thoughts of like we easily in like oh three oh four like beginnings of entourage for sure at the same party at some point we definitely were at the same clubs we were like we could have been boys like our you know like kind of like their agents kind of came together it's like jerry was already pitching a show uh with our company that's such an la thing of you our agents sir well no that's really how it came about and i'm like i never got into the podcast space and kind of for the reason we're talking about just like i never really felt comfortable enough just to like hey here's a mic let's just talk and like let people really know who i was but anyway they're like hey do you want to possibly do a show with turtle from entourage that was it i was like jerry for arm like i've never met him but he's you're like yes and we called each other we called each other we were on the phone for like three hours and it was like la we have we have kids the same age like there are a lot of life parallels and uh it's been awesome working with jerry my first thoughts meeting matt in person i'm like shit i didn't realize you were this tall yeah i knew you were tall i'm really short i'm short so i'm like i knew you were tall because you're a court but damn i I didn't know you were like 6'5", bro. These pictures are going to be weird. You live in Cleveland? Is that right? Yes. Yeah, we got to get his ass out of there. A frozen tundra of Cleveland. Oh, that's where my wife grew up. And we literally are expecting our third baby. Oh, my God. It could be happening right now, but I'm here to talk about it. Oh, wow. Okay. But you know what? The podcast must go on. Yeah, she's only two centimeters dilated. Well, congratulations. That's very exciting. Thank you. Thank you for doing this. CT, thanks for joining us. I know you're busy. Appreciate you. No, I'm never too busy. This is wonderful. It's so nice to catch up with you guys. Thank you for having me. And do you know what you're having? No, this is the first one. We're just going to say, we'll see what happens. Oh my God. Well, when your wife goes into labor, bounty paper towels will clean up the mess. We're going to need them. We're going to need them, folks. All right. Joining us as she always does each and every week, although this is a special week because it's Super Bowl week. Annie Agar joins the show courtesy of Twisted Tea. Grab a refreshing Twisted Tea today. Me and Matt. Well, Matt's going to host again. Me versus you. I feel like if I get you again this week, I got to go back against the big dog. Yeah. The big dog. I appreciate that. That's only fair. It's the, yeah. We're in the loser's bracket, right? Isn't that what Matt's going to do? It's all right, guys. Hey, you guys still got a fighting chance. Let's go. We got some good ones. We got some good ones this week. Wait, I have a question for Jerry. Yes. Maybe we don't say this on air or not, but do we have a baby? We do have a baby. We do have a baby. You know why it makes me happy? Apparently on this little Zoom that I don't look like I'm exhausted, but I am. So that's good. Let's have Annie bet. What do you think? Oh, yeah, we don't know. Okay. I'm going to say I thought it was a boy. I thought it was going to be a boy. Is it a boy? You are correct. Wow. So it is nameless We were talking at the on the a block Cause we having a hard time with the name We keep going back and forth I think we should just let the Super Bowl MVP be the name Oh that a great idea And if it Romandre then like hey you named after Super Bowl MVP Romandre Stevenson Right. I feel like Bree probably wouldn't go for that, but I mean, it's a good shot. It's a good try. Sam is a great name. Sam. Oh, okay. Well, okay. Then you can call him the Red Hammer. Right, because I'm sure he's going to have red hair. Well, no, this is our Italian baby. If you have red hair, Jerry, you should have a conversation with your wife. I'll send you a picture, Annie. All our kids have been kind of blonde, but I'll send you a pic. This is the Italian baby. Oh, good. Got hair on his shoulders, hair on his head. Now, you are not at your normal location. You are the advanced scout team over there in San Fran already. How has your first few days in San Francisco been? It is wild here. Radio Row was packed on a Tuesday. So yesterday was the first day I went on Radio Row. And that's obviously where all the media is and everything. And usually it doesn't pick up until Wednesday or like end of Wednesday, early Thursday. I've not ever seen that many people on Radio Row that early. Like Cam Newton's walking around. I saw Brandon Marshall, Charles Woodson I talked to for a little while. Like all the big guys usually come in later. And it's just, it's amazing to me how busy it is. And it's a little bit more condensed than past years. So it just feels a lot busier too. But yeah, it was wild today. What does your schedule look like for this week? Yeah, so we're doing Radio Row all week. And I'll try to do some content, but it's mostly just hopping on other people's pods and stuff like that or their shows. Like tomorrow, I'm going to be on Good Morning Football. So excited. Oh, yeah. Let's go. Very excited for that. And people just grab you. Like you guys probably know, right? I'm sure Matt's gone around. Come on the show. Come on the show. Yeah, you have no idea where you're going. And you can't get through it with that, which I'm so grateful for, because obviously that means people want you on their shows and stuff. But it's just hard to get around because they constantly everybody wants to talk to everybody and everybody's got their little angle and their, you know, their thing. So, yeah, it was it's wild. But that's kind of what we're doing this week. And then we'll be at like parties at night, you know, because that's also networking. Like everything. So you can take a break at night. Oh, no, no, there's parties to like 2 a.m. Go network at. um but as i was talking to you guys off air it's kind of all spread out here so people i don't i don't know if people are staying right downtown and not going to those or if they're venturing out i don't i don't know but it's it's very spread out in california so that's interesting well welcome to the west coast good weather yay yay i was 80 degrees where i'm living right now so people keep asking me the best super bowl i've been to i think it was vegas believe it or not vegas was so that was fun so fun and everything was right there well the city is built to host millions of people and entertain it they should have it in vegas every year in my oh it was so fun yeah do you guys want some fun trivia before we start the trivia oh yeah this show throwbacks you could essentially say speaking of births was born at the las vegas super bowl that is the first sit down dinner i had with eric wells we started talking about let's do a show let's do we got this whole network i'm like ah that it was it happened in vegas so wow vegas birthing yet another child. I was going to say, I'm sure a lot of children are born. A lot of things were born in Vegas. A lot of things happened in Vegas. All right, guys. I mean, listen, I'm in the host chair. Do we want to start this now? We're going to do Twisted Tee trivia. We're just going to do Super Bowl edition. All right. It's pretty vague. So any Super Bowl? I mean, yeah. I mean, for the questions, pretty much any Super Bowl. and then the pictures um have to do with the two teams playing okay okay all right let's go good luck all right first question who holds the record for longest interception return in super bowl history i think i know it i yeah i mean well james harrison james harrison is correct matt you had a good look at that one right i did i was like what are you doing bro Why are you throwing right to him? Kurt, that's game, even though it wasn't game. I believe it was 99 yards. I mean, it had to be. It was the Super Bowl we were in against the Steelers. Kurt threw a pick. Yeah, half, right? Wasn't that like right before the half? Yeah, right before the half. Right before the half. Yeah, that's such a distinct play. Yeah. Okay, number two. All right, 1-0, Jerry. Number two, which player has the only opening play touchdown in Super Bowl history? Davin Hester. Davin Hester, yes. Dang it, Jerry. Jerry is just on the base. That was going to be my guess for the first one, and I knew it wasn't right, but that was the only. Annie, you need to step your game up. Let's go. Annie, I'm locked in right now. Guys, I've been up since 5 a.m. Come on. You got this. Let's go. Lock in. Lock in. You have to win this one. I can always fall back in the pictures, but I have to get this one. Okay, go. All right. Last question. Which team has the most Super Bowl appearances in NFL history? Patriots? Yep. what a guess i was like going like stealers or something that was huge that was huge annie that was that's like scoring before the end of the half like james harrison did to keep it a change momentum a little bit that was huge all right so jerry's up two to one we have two photos uh as usual we are going to close our eyes and then when the picture is up i will say open okay um all right two one annie you need to get this one all right close your eyes picture up please and open oh no it looks like who does it look like it's not malcolm butler is it that's is that are you kidding me i was gonna say that i'm not i'm not is he a is he coaching Do I not know he's coaching? That's a pregame warmup, dude. That's pregame warmup. Oh, dude, he looks like a coach right there. I should have known they're not wired in. That was my fault. Listen, I'm going to give Annie a bonus here. Is that okay, Jerry? I do not believe I didn't say that. So there's one more picture, but you get to guess this, Jerry. Annie has to guess the person, and then you have to guess the college in order for you to maybe step away with the tie. So I'm giving you a shot. But Jerry still can guess. If he guesses it, he wins. You have to at least get the guess, and then you have to guess at college. I'm terrible at colleges. You guys, if you get it, you'll see. Okay. All right. Close your eyes, and open your eyes. Oh, no. Is that – I love how Jerry's always – is that – like, is it a guess or no? Well, I don't want to say it because if I'm raw, is that Kenneth Walker? No. Nope. Nope. Annie, you got a shot. Dang it. I have no guess. Seattle lore is not my... Yeah, go ahead. Let me give you a hint. He was Super Bowl MVP. Oh, gosh. Is it Malcolm Smith? Yes. Let's go. You better not know his school. Now you have to name that college. Yes! For the tie? This is going to be a total guess because I do not remember. I don't even know What conference? Malcolm Smith. Don't overthink it. Oh, now you're making me overthink it more. Oh, boy. I'm just going to throw one out there. Oh, gosh. Don't do it. Don't do it. Let me give you one hint. Okay. Oh, I just looked it up. He's from California. Oh, no. Well, that changes things. i'm trying jerry i'm trying to give her some a lifeline here i'm okay i'm gonna guess did he go to usc yes let's go we got her back a tie is a tie look how by the way look how happy you are for getting the that's oh yeah that's pretty pathetic hey this is my second time here with dallas and green bay a tie that's right that's true hey teams make the playoffs off those ties not mine but some you know all right well before we let you go let's let's just do the thing everybody's doing and i'm sure you maybe said it on radio row but for our audience let's get our super bowl picks in uh you could do score if you want to or you could just say who's gonna win we're gonna start and if you want to throw an mvp just we'll have the fun with it yeah annie agar who is your super Bowl champion and who is your Super Bowl MVP? I'm going to say the Seattle Seahawks. I've not been giving score predictions this week, but I said by two scores. And it's going to be Sam Darnold. It's going to be the really going out on a ledge there. Really on a whim here. But how funny would it be? Because let me just follow that up. I want Minnesota fans to be miserable. Oh, really? Yeah, I think the Seahawks are going to win. I think it's going to be a little closer than two scores, but I do think they'll cover. I believe the spread's four and a half. Is that what it got up to? Yeah. I like Seattle minus some points. And then I'll go. You know what? I'm going to go JSN, Jackson Smith and Jigba. I'm going to throw a receiver in there. I would love for him. I mean, he's, yeah, he's the best receiver in the league outside of Puka. I think he's got a real shot. I think Sammy plays well. I think this kid has a big, big game and gets the MVP. You know, Matt, we were talking, Annie and I were talking off the air when you stepped away earlier. And we're not trying to make this first take where someone has to disagree. This is my honest opinion. I went through a bunch of different versions of this game. I'm going the Patriots. And I'm going the MVP. Should be Mike Vrabel. It won't be. I think Mike Vrabel, I'm not buying this Drake May shoulder thing. Tom Brady was on every injury report for every Super Bowl. Dude was not injured ever. I'm going Pats. Very, very close game. I'm going to go defensive MVP Christian Gonzalez. But that's really hard as a defensive player. But I think that Von Miller snaps. And I give you my long shot MVP if it is the Seahawks. They ain't going to be Sam Darnold. Watch your boy Shahid. If they kick one to him, that is a big mistake. He might get a return touchdown and a receiving touchdown in a close game. But I'm going Pats, Christian Gonzalez. Wow. All right, Jerry. I don't trust the Patriots and Vrabel. I just, they're up to something. I don't like it. Vrabel already on busting with the boys, making penis jokes. Like, he's too calm. That was good. He's too calm. He's too calm. Maybe you should make it. That is a calm dude. Vrabel. It's a great name. Yeah. Something tells you Mike McDonald is not making penis jokes. I'm busting with the boys five days before the Super Bowl. No, he's scheming up his defense, actually, you know, doing the Lord's work. Exactly. All right. Well, have fun, Annie. And yeah, let's go Super Bowl baby gonna be a great great this week absolutely