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The Precap | Jordan Klepper on Good Dogs, A Movie Premiere, and Trump's Monument Obsession

60 min
Feb 9, 20262 months ago
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Summary

Jordan Klepper discusses his week hosting The Daily Show, including attending the Melania Trump film premiere at the renamed Kennedy Center and the Westminster Dog Show at Madison Square Garden. The episode covers Trump's monument obsession, cultural politics, and the upcoming Winter Olympics while exploring themes of authenticity in art and media.

Insights
  • Trump's renaming of institutions (Kennedy Center, potential Department of War) reflects a pattern of prioritizing personal branding over practical governance costs and institutional continuity
  • Contemporary political figures avoid creating nuanced, three-dimensional artistic representations, preferring propaganda that lacks the complexity found in meaningful art and literature
  • Live performance and authentic passion—whether in dog shows or music—provides cultural counterweight to political chaos and serves as genuine human connection
  • Cultural controversies are being recycled from past decades rather than addressing new issues, suggesting political strategy relies on rehashing old culture war battles
  • Streaming services and digital access have democratized live performance consumption, making curated YouTube sessions equivalent to expensive ticketed events
Trends
Institutional renaming as political branding strategy gaining prominence in executive governanceRetreat from artistic complexity and three-dimensional character development in state-sponsored media productionsDog show culture and niche hobby communities as countercultural antidotes to political anxietyRecycling of 1980s-2000s culture war controversies rather than engaging with contemporary cultural shiftsStreaming platform fragmentation affecting live event viewership and accessibility across demographicsCelebrity political alignment creating commercial and reputational risks (Tate McRae Canada controversy)AI and automation in consumer appliances (coffee machines) marketed as skill-elimination solutionsWinter Olympics integration with pop culture IP and commercial partnerships (Minions figure skating)Political polarization extending into entertainment venue management and artistic curationTherapeutic use of animals in high-stress workplace environments becoming standard corporate practice
Topics
Trump Administration Institutional RebrandingKennedy Center Renovation and Political ControlMelania Trump Documentary Film AnalysisWestminster Dog Show Culture and Breeding StandardsWinter Olympics 2026 Coverage and StreamingFigure Skating and IP Integration (Minions)Political Polarization in Arts and CultureICE Reform and Immigration Policy DebateCelebrity Political Alignment and BacklashLive Music Performance AnalysisArtistic Authenticity vs. PropagandaWorkplace Mental Health and Animal TherapyStreaming Service Competition for Sports RightsChristopher Columbus Statue ControversySuper Bowl Halftime Show Politics
Companies
Amazon
Discussed as recipient of federal cloud computing contract allegedly tied to Melania Trump film funding through Jeff ...
Universal
Controlled Minions IP rights; initially denied figure skater permission to use Minion music until public pressure rev...
NBC
Broadcasts Winter Olympics; controls streaming rights through Peacock platform for live event coverage
Peacock
NBC's streaming service providing real-time Olympic event coverage as alternative to edited prime-time broadcasts
Paramount Plus
Streaming home for The Daily Show episodes; mentioned as primary digital distribution platform
Comedy Central
Network broadcasting The Daily Show and this podcast; primary employer of hosts and production team
People
Donald Trump
Central figure discussed for renaming Kennedy Center, monument obsession, and cultural/political decisions affecting ...
Melania Trump
Subject of documentary film premiere; discussed for having final cut approval and lack of three-dimensional character...
Jordan Klepper
Host of this episode; attended Melania premiere and Westminster Dog Show; shared personal anecdotes about Michigan ba...
Zach Delanzo
Podcast co-host and interviewer; production assistant at The Daily Show with long tenure at organization
Jeff Bezos
Amazon founder allegedly connected to Melania film funding as potential quid pro quo for federal contracts
Philip Glass
Composer cited as example of cultural figure withdrawing from Kennedy Center due to Trump's influence
Jack White
Musician discussed for Death Letter performance; example of authentic live performance and blues interpretation
Catherine O'Hara
Canadian actress and comedian; recently deceased; discussed as Mount Rushmore-level comedy performer
Christopher Guest
Director of Best in Show and other mockumentaries featuring Catherine O'Hara; referenced for comedic film quality
Prince
Musician cited for iconic Super Bowl halftime performance as example of great live music
Quotes
"It's not until you gaze on that giant, beautiful marble wall to see just how ridiculous it is to have two people's names on top of the center."
Jordan KlepperKennedy Center renaming discussion
"There is something so intoxicating about specific passion."
Jordan KlepperWestminster Dog Show discussion
"Art is supposed to articulate these places, these moments that we are in, and to poke holes in certain narratives."
Jordan KlepperMelania film artistic analysis
"You have one life and you got to make it count. You got to make it count."
Zach DelanzoPennsylvania Hotel dog poop discussion
"It's like, oh, this is a couple creating music, borrowing blues and storytelling, like chopping it up and making it about what's happening right here and now."
Jordan KlepperWhite Stripes Death Letter performance analysis
Full Transcript
This episode is brought to you by Ninja Luxe Cafe, the three-in-one machine that makes espresso, drip coffee, and cold brew. No barista skills required. You're listening to Comedy Central. Hello and welcome to the Precap, a daily show podcast where we sit down with this week's host to preview what's coming up and recap some of the latest news. I'm Zach Delanzo. I'm Zach Delanzo. That's what you stumble over? Yeah. Well, yeah, I'm playing the character of Zach Delacroix. Right, yeah. And I'm right at the show, and I'm joined by Jordan Klepper. If you couldn't recognize his voice, chiming in there. Yeah, the dulcet tones. Yeah, how's it going, Klepper? I'm doing good. I'm excited about the big week. Yeah, you had a big week. You were at the Melania premiere in D.C. at the Trump-Kennedy Center, as it goes by now. It feels weird to say it, right? It's funny, if you go there, it says Donald Trump, John F. Kennedy Center on the outside. Yeah. Which, it's not until you gaze on that giant, beautiful marble wall to see just how ridiculous it is to have two people's names on top of the center. Yeah, yeah. And then you look at all of the other signage around that area. Like, there's vans that take people to and from. None of them have the Trump on it. It's so Trumpy in nature that it's like, just slap that name up there. It's like, do we need to fix all the other things? Like, ah, it doesn't matter. As long as I get my picture of this thing, it's fine. Well, that was with them wanting to rename the Department of Defense, the Department of War. It actually requires billions of dollars to print new business cards or whatever. I mean, I don't know if the Department of War has business cards. There's so much signage that needs to change it. You've been bombed by the Department of War. Call us if you have any issues. Yeah, let us know how it's going. We would love to grab a cup of coffee. Any feedback is great. We'll be around. I would love to just grab some. Let's get a chin wag after you guys rebuild this area here. I remember when I first started working here, it was like you got a box of business cards, and you felt very cool. And at the time, business cards were still a thing. But then I think I still have ones in my wallet that say, like, Zach Lanza, production assistant, from when I first started. I think I still have the box that I got as well, which was. It was like you get like 1,000 of those cards. I earnestly handed out maybe four. I think for fun, handed out maybe seven. And then I still have a box of like 900 some odd. Right, yeah. It feels weird to throw these away. I'm using this kindling down the road or something. I think that's a good point. Yeah, but yeah. But yeah, at least they like, it's centered. You know what I mean? They took the time to like, it's not like when you're like a kid and like doing bubble letters and you run out of space and have to squeeze into a field. They at least, you know, did a nice job getting the font to match. The craftsmanship is nice as far as it goes. And it is true. I think of the Hurricane Sharpie drawing. Right, right, yeah. Which is, I mean, all of these things. In retrospect, what beautiful comedic moments. Yeah. That it really was. It was like, you have, you could send this out to Kinko's. You are the president of the United States. Yeah, you could certainly. You could have Kinko's or somebody who works in some sort of. Last minute Sharpie. Last minute Sharpie. And this one, yes, they hired somebody who the actual lettering looks lovely. It's the reading of the lettering. The jar, the substance of it. When you put these letters together and read it, it is jarring to hear. And as we pointed out on the show, it is like a living memorial to a man. So it is sort of like throwing your name on someone's gravestone in some regard to be like, hey, I'm also a guy that you can remember. Zach, do not give this man ideas. Are you kidding? Donald Trump hears this. He's suddenly like, give me an Uber to Arlington with a chisel. Donald Trump presents the heroes of World War II. And then you were also at, which was not a field piece, but I just know this because we're talking. You were at the Westminster Dog Show. Where a dog named Penny won. And I have a dog named Penny who does not compete. but it was a big win for dogs named Penny everywhere. I think dogs named Penny were very excited about the Doberman who pulled in the cup. Yeah, a great specimen of a dog. Oh, a good-looking dog. What was the experience of being in that? Is it at MSG? It was at MSG, Madison Square Garden, which it's been most years. I've gone four or five times. I love it as a New York experience. It really is an antidote to the world around us right now. Yeah. Which feels very chaotic. But then to walk into Madison Square Garden to see all these dogs prance around and the people who are holders and owners and breeders, they all wear ill-fitting tuxedos. They all sit and they cheer. And I go and it's there's something so intoxicating about specific passion. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And so you see the people who are there who are coming from all over America. And to be able to perform at Madison Square Garden is such a treat and an exciting thing to see. I still don't fully understand the rules of how you win the Westminster Dog Show, but to be a part of it, to watch it, to cheer it on is, it's such a New York experience. Yeah. We actually, the first time I think I went, I hosted a show called The Opposition that filmed out of the Penn Hotel, was right next to Madison Square Garden. And so our offices were in this Penn Hotel, which was not a good hotel. It was a cheap hotel next to Penn Station. I mean, if there's a TV studio in it. This hotel was so bad. It was a TV studio that Maury used to be at, we filmed at. This hotel was so decrepit and old. I was watching an Errol Morris documentary about old CIA mind control tests that followed a person who got drugged with LSD and then committed suicide and jumped out a window. and as I was watching it, I was like, oh, that was at this hotel. Oh, yeah, there was a Netflix show about that. Yes, yes. That all took place at this hotel, this weird, strange hotel that also happened to be next to Madison Square Garden, which also means if you're there for the dog show, you're probably staying at this hotel. And I remember going out on a lunch break, and all of these dogs who are performing at MSG, they're all staying at this hotel, and all the owners have brought them out into 6th Avenue, and there's no place to shit. Oh, no. And so there's all these gorgeous dogs panicking, running around, shitting in the middle of 6th Avenue, 7th Avenue. Oh, no. They're like, where is green? You're like, there's no greenery. Yeah. For another half, you got to get up to Central Park and you're not going to make it. Oh, no, yeah. Let the Doberman pitch one out here. Especially, like, it's the snow. It snowed a lot in New York and then it froze and it hasn't melted. And as some with a dog, we're running out of, like, anywhere that's not already covered in dog poop. Oh my God. Yeah, so. A month from now, that was St. Bernard deuces. Yeah. They're going to be unveiled to all the lovely people of Midtown. It'll be so fun to stay in that hotel and just see a lot of dog, if you're from, like, you're sort of like a behind the scenes. It's behind the scenes. Unfortunately, that hotel was demolished last year. Oh no. It no longer exists. Dang. So you missed your chance. This is another example of like, if you've been sitting there being like, at one time I want to stay at the Pennsylvania Hotel, see these dogs take crabs in the street. You missed it, you know? Take your shot. America, take your shot. See those dogs poop at a hotel when you have the opportunity. You got one life and you got to make it count. You got to make it count. That's so fun. Yeah, I did a lot of reading about it. And I guess there was a New York Times article that was like, what is this event? And just the generals of like, I guess the American Kennel Club, I guess, is that who runs it? I think it's the, technically I think it is the Westminster Kettle Club. Westminster Kettle Club. They have certain criteria for like each breed of like, this is what a golden retriever should look like. This is what a Scottish terrier should look like. And so like, I guess they're trying to, I guess these breed, I guess they're breeders of dogs that are trying to like, get it to be that. Yeah. The perfect version of that, from my understanding, which is also. And then training the dog as well. You train the dog. Again, I'm very loose on what the rules of it are. We're both talking out of our ass. We have no idea. Yeah, there are people who are listening right now who are like, they have, we care about this sport. Do we call it a sport? Do we call it a pageant? Somewhere in between, yeah. A hobby gone deeply wrong. Yeah, no, it's a great thing. And like, yeah, it is such a quirky American, seemingly wholesome thing that is like just a great thing. And then it comes to New York. I really do have to go to it. Dropped in the middle of Manhattan. and then it's interesting to see like an audience respond to these dogs. Yeah. Because now they've been more often than not. The golden retriever is always beloved and you can feel the audience. But doesn't win very often. Never wins. But fan phase. You feel the populism in there and they're like, we're not listening to you. A pug comes out and you're like, yes, I love the pugs. And they're like, we don't give a shit about the pugs. And so what they care about, very niche breeds. Yeah, yeah. So you're like, I don't exactly know what is being judged here. The Doberman was fairly beloved in the room. Can you feel like, oh, are there people like, oh, look, look at that. People that don't know things about dogs. That's me. You get a sense. And some of that has to do with grooming where you're like, oh, that is the puffiest dog I've ever seen. I don't know if that technically means anything to be like, look how puffy that dog is. There was like an old English sheepdog that was super puffy. And I think that worked to its benefit at the end. And when you get the best in show, which is the final ones picked from each round, you see that they are beautiful dogs. They are well trained. And you can tell all of that. They also give sort of a breakdown of what these dogs were bred for, a little bit of the history of these dogs, as well as like whether or not they're good pets and what have you. There's a little bit of editorializing, which is always interesting to see the announcer editorialize or not. What's sort of interesting about the Doberman is built into the history of the Doberman that they kept repeating. Essentially, I believe it's like a German dog that was raised for like militaristic means and a sort of like a herding, almost like, essentially it sounded like a police dog. Someone said that it was on the news that it was like created by, I guess bred by a tax collector who like wanted to have a scary looking dog with him. In some ways I was like, oh, this is the most icest, ice dog. This is the ice dog of all of them. It is like a, yeah. Not that everything has to be political. In fact, that guy went there like, oh, I can get away from the politics. I was like, but if ice were to pick a dog, it would probably be this one. No, they are scary and very, yeah, they probably would make a, for no thought of their own, a good dog to attack a protester. I could feel you getting into the end of that sentence and unsure if you wanted to go there. No, and then I was like, maybe I'll lighten it, but then I actually went for a harder version of it, so we'll have Alan cut that. But this dog seemed like a great dog. Seemed like a great dog. No shade on this dog. It was a beautiful dog. They all were. it's people were so excited to see it uh see it win like it's five stars go to the westminster dog show if given the chance between a melanian premiere and a westminster dog show go to the westminster dog all right good to know um i i i'm curious if like dogs in the past year or dogs in the past 10 years have been like have been picking up on the stress because i feel like dogs are very intuitive like that and i do wonder if they are like what the hell every time this guy opens up his laptop he's there's something in the air that's it if there is like essentially a palpable anxiety that has been bred into these these dogs given our the state of the world that we're in yeah and it just it's just like we we have office dogs which is like a great perk of working here but i feel like and part of what what is great about is that like stressful horrible news coming in and then you just sort of like go spend some time with the dog and it sort of is pure in this way that like takes your mind off things but i wonder if the dog is like man i'm just like sick of like 40 people like putting their shit on me yeah everybody nobody really understands like oh you have a dog a therapy dog it's really gonna relieve your stress it's like perhaps perhaps it's like energy can neither be created or destroyed it's just it's just handed to this gosh darn French bulldog who was like, I have the anxiety of an entire office on my body right now. A therapy dog. How like therapists are supposed to be in therapy. It's like, we need to get our therapy dogs therapy dogs because shit is not going well in our country. Yeah, it's like little Penny as I'm nuzzling up again. Little chow chow over there. Yeah, exactly. Oh, well Penny just needs a break. Penny's been very stressed because they've been over in the editing bays and it's been a stressful week and a half. So give Penny a chance to just decompress. And now suddenly there's little dogs that are getting on planes with little other little dogs carry on and now they have papers to get on the planes. Cafe quality brews without a barista. That's the Ninja Luxe Cafe. Yep. No skills needed. Rich espresso, balanced drip coffee, rapid cold brew. All made by you because barista assist technology handles the details. Grinding, weighing, brewing. So you don't have to. Finished with silky microfoam made with dairy or plant-based milk. Hot or cold, hands-free, still no skills needed. 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Maybe now is not the time. maybe like five years from now with some distance from all of this. Yeah, no, indulge in what I've heard described as an hour-and-a-half-long perfume commercial. Yeah, I mean, the trailer of it is like... And, I mean, just the idea was like, she's got to plan the inauguration in 20 days, as if those are stakes for me that I'm like, oh, how is she going to pull this off? Oh, I wonder how it's going to happen. It is curious, though. I'm sure there's an analysis of what this is. It's a $40 million Jeff Bezos bribe so that Amazon can get what they want out of this. Right. And didn't they lock up some sort of huge cloud computing contract with the government? I believe they got a federal, a giant federal contract soon thereafter. I mean, well played. Yeah. That's a freaking investment right there. But what's curious is I believe Melania had final cut over this, which is also interesting when you talk to people at the Melania event where so many people are like, like, I want to know who she really is. It's like, oh, yeah, you want like an objective look. We talked to somebody. Didn't you make the final piece? I just want an objective look at Melania Trump. It's like, right. And she did have final say. And they're like, exactly. And she has to so she can speak her mind. Right. It's like, that's not this objective look. No, no, no. Yeah. But there is something about how somebody wants to be presented. And I'm sure Melania, I'm sure she wasn't all in on the edit bay very often. Yeah, I do love the idea of Melania giving notes, though. Like, let's just divide here. Push in. Yeah. But I don't doubt. Some of the critics have talked about how it's like a commercial. It's propaganda. There's not a lot of depth. And I think there's a curiosity of, I would not imagine many people in the Trump administration would desire creating a three-dimensional character that has weaknesses or nuance. Like the film critics who approach films from an artistic standpoint, great literature or film often paints a picture of a human being who is three-dimensional, who is complicated, who has weaknesses and strengths, and therefore the human experience is one of a balance between frailty and confidence, ability and the inability to achieve the things in which you want. That, I think, from an artistic standpoint, tends to be a gold standard of how you articulate the human experience. It would be curious to watch this film, which is being articulated by someone who I would imagine has no interest in achieving that gold standard, only an interest in a two-dimensional robot of success, which I think speaks to an entire administration that should be one of empathy and understanding, but only has a kindergartner's view of what cinema and art is, which is reflective of a human view of not understanding that human beings have to balance failure, fear, and success all at once, but not just constantly pretend that you're killing it. There could be a version of this movie that's very interesting because her life and their relationship is so unique and strange. Yeah. I feel like maybe there'll be like a – you know how there was that Beatles documentary that they had the footage of and then Peter Jackson used the footage to make a whole other documentary? I feel like maybe 20 years from now, Peter Jackson will make like the use the footage, use all the raw footage. You'd be like and we'll have a little more perspective. I don't know. That's the to me. The thing that is always most relatable to me about any kind of art or person is like the difficulty and the failure that you have. Like you are right. Like that is a marriage that has to be hard. If you were able to show like the difficulties in being married to somebody who has this job and is a fascist authoritarian, it's probably a compelling story. And it's probably a difficult thing to actually also parent a child within all of that. Right, right. If you're able to open up on the things that are difficult about that, you might become a human being that, you know, that I would want to express empathy towards. But you probably missed that opportunity. There was that like Wiener documentary, remember that? And it was like. Anthony Wiener. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, no, I was not saying that. You sent me that link to that Wiener documentary, right? Is that what you're calling it? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's when HR was like, Zach, come in here. I hear you're sending Wiener documentary pics to Jordan again. It was a video. Yeah, I know it was a video. You can't send those to Jordan. Come on. Yeah, but that documentary, well, first of all, he, like, shouldn't have, he should have got Final Cut because I think it just made him, well, that guy had a lot of other problems. But, like, there is, like, the access of, like, where there was a Roger Stone documentary where there is like a glimmer into this like crazy person's world and you still get their perspective, but there's also like other story there other than like, and I did really good at decorating or whatever. So, yeah, I probably won't see it in theaters, but, you know, maybe. You'll click on it when it pops out on Amazon because you haven't canceled your Amazon yet, so therefore you don't wipe the hell out. I can't bite toilet paper in person. That's embarrassing. You are right. You need this many paper towels? I'm sorry. You're a lunatic. You're disgusting. Some other things from the past week. Somewhat related to the Kennedy Center, his plans to, I think you maybe were one of the last people to see the Kennedy Center in its current form because it's getting gut renovation, $200 million to $300 million. What a tactical move. We all saw it coming. Yeah. But yeah, nobody was going to the Kennedy Center. Everybody's dropping out of the Kennedy Center. Philip Glass was like, I'm out. Yeah. When you lose Glass. When you lose Glass, you know? When you lose Glass, you're out. Yeah. That's what they say. That's a little showbiz insider baseball thing. You know, Trump just didn't want to have to deal with like a year and a half of constantly hearing people like, you know, nobody's showing up to the Kennedy Center. You're going to do this battle. And so, yeah, he's like, oh, closer renovation. I'm going to make it the greatest. Michael, was it like, is it a like, does it have anything to do with the government, the people that previously ran it? Like, did he just insert himself into a somewhat like, could he just do that for, you know, Brooklyn Steel? Could he be like, I run Brooklyn Steel now? I mean, from my understanding, which God bless, do you think he would go in there? He wants to, he's like, no more LCD sound system shows on Brooklyn Steel. Those residencies are, come on. That's it. Are they even putting out new stuff? No more LCD sound system. Yeah, Donald Trump's going to do a Le Tigre. Wow, that would be cool. It would be cool. I do love the idea of like indie rock Donald Trump where he has hard opinions about Panda Bear. That's the thing. His taste is so basic and bullshit. Yeah. You know, from the Gilded Oval Office to the people that he has up there, which is, that's also just such a bummer. Yeah. It's like there is such great culture here. And the Kennedy Center is a beautiful place. I performed there a year ago, and it's gorgeous. It is an artistic mecca. I don't believe it. I think things are politicized, and I believe there are certain awards that the president can weigh in, like presidential awards that go to certain people, people get highlighted. The Mark Twain Prize. Mark Twain Prize? But I don't even know if the Mark Twain Prize has a federal element to it, does it? I don't know. It's held there? Yeah, maybe I'm thinking of the Kennedy Center Awards. But I think Trump very much wanted to, he put himself on the board, wanted to put his fingerprint on all of it, and therefore, and literally his name on it, and therefore is a part of, like he can't help but be the face of any kind of artistic movement and therefore any artist doesn't want to be attached to that face. It's such a bold thing to be like, I am going to be president and also run a theater. And also like his taste isn't great, as you were saying. Like it's such like an understanding of the world, like 80s Broadway. Like this is how you, this is how you, everything needs to be cats. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, so the fact that he thought he was going to like... Well, there's no like original works that he wants. He wants Kid Rock, who like is playing American Badass, which was from my high school era. And then Lee Greenwood, who was there at the inauguration of George Washington, I believe. Like that song is OG. And then you're right, Cats, Phantom of the Opera, much respect to the classic musicals, But there's no earnest artistic sensibility towards what is being created now. Yeah. It's just a man who wants to live in nostalgia. Right, right. And not to be challenged with what modern art is supposed to do. Yeah. Art is supposed to articulate these places, these moments that we are in, and to poke holes in certain narratives. He's only picking the people who have articulated Reagan-era art to be put on display. Right, right. And I will say I'm a little worried about Kid Rock and Lee Greenwood because they just lean on them. Every performance that they need, like the Republican response to or an event that Trump is holding, it's Kid Rock or Lee Greenwood. And certainly those men need a break every now and again. Give them space. Do you think they're flying Lee Greenwood first class? Is he getting into a relationship? They're putting him up in decent hotels. He's on a bus. You think Greenwood's on a bus? he was definitely at the rallies he was popping up at most of the rallies yeah yeah you're right you're like he's got to go to sound check he's old he's got to do a sound check that he's got to be there early and though the rallies it's in too much sun right yeah he's an older man and there was i don't know if we put on this show but someone made the joke about him being like the um guitar player in mad max he's just like stragg chained to like trump's tour bus or whatever Air Force One. But yeah, those guys are working really hard. Yeah, it's a bummer about that. You know, but the man loves to gut renovate, I will say. And maybe it's just like the more time we can get him doing that. Great. Yeah. Yeah. Do you want to do my place? We were thinking about, you know. We're thinking about a wall over here. Do you want to spend a month focusing on that and a little bit less on Venezuela? That's a win-win for everybody. And then he's also, well, along with the Kennedy Center, he wants to apparently put up a statue of Christopher Columbus on the White House, I guess. Or in the White House, I'm not exactly sure. Which just feels like it's just like, well, he's just recycling controversies at this point of like, what were people pissed at 10 years ago? Let me do that. And we can fight about that again. but as an Italian, I got to support it. That's really what it is. It's, it's, it's, it's so disappointing from a moralistic standpoint, an American standpoint, but, but mostly just it's, it's so derivative and old, right? It's like, it's like you, you are right. We are like a week away from him getting mad that they introduced a gay character on Roseanne. It's like, oh, I guess, yeah, I guess, I guess Becky has a girlfriend. Are we mad at that right now? Mark on Home Improvement's goth? Do we need that? I guess we could all be mad about that. All right. Fine. Let's give them a statue. Let's build a thing. Oh, we're going to give them an award at the Kennedy Center? They're giving Columbus an award. They're going to give Columbus an award. They're going to look at the sitcoms that stayed true. Yeah. Yeah, like we're going to give Frasier Crane an award for his steadfast pursuit of truth in the face of an unmarried brother. Yeah. Poor Frasier. Guy can't get laid. He's married to his work. That's the thing with Frasier. Speaking of Frasier, as we pointed out on the show, it's the Frasier Bowl because Seattle is where he lived. lived and then Boston is where he lived in Cheers. Did we point that out on the show? I pointed this out in the script and forced it onto the show. It was a sports war. Oh, it was a sports war. It was a sports war. Was there recognition in that? That reference is so deep. I guess that tracks. It didn't do well. It's the Frazier Bowl. And then we had two Frazier heads collide and explode, which was a solid three minutes about Frazier. How did I miss the sports board? That is good on you for really... Yeah, I'll send you that in the Wiener documentary. I'll email it over to you. Stop sending me Wiener documentaries, please. HIMSS may not be able to help with folding a fitted sheet, but it can certainly help with performance in the bedroom. ED doesn't mean a love life is over. It means it is time to take back control and bring back spontaneity with daily medication options. 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A team has won the Frasier Bowl, as we've established. The big question is whether Bad Bunny wears a dress or not. Again, these old beefs, these like beefs from the 80s, where you're like, oh, people are upset. Like, oh, can you believe this guy wears a dress? It's like, oh, really? I'm sure somebody was bitching about that when Kurt Cobain wore a skirt or a dress. It's like, come on, guys. Let's get new hates. I mean, I think it's like the birth of rock and roll, people have been like, this is too sexy. And so I think, yeah, it is like a 70-year-old argument we're having. And then there's also the Turning Points USA halftime show, the alt-halftime show, which is hosted or being performed by Kid Rock. Get them out of Gatorade, you know? You're a Detroit guy, right? I'm a Michigan guy, so Kalamazoo with a lot of Detroit love, yes. And it's weird because he's like, he somehow has made himself like, I'm the Detroit guy, as well as being a cowboy, which it doesn't really seem to align with. Yeah, he tries to own cowboy stuff and Detroit stuff, which in this world, I'm going to take Eminem over Kid Rock any day. Or even ICP at this point. Wow, is ICP up? Yeah. Wow, I didn't know that. Oh, let me tell you, there's a rap rock white guy genre that lives in a 30-mile radius of Detroit. Eminem, Kid Rock, ICP, that's a kind of Detroit area there. Speaking of subcultures that are sort of strange, like the Westminster Dog Show, I feel like ICP is sort of this, sometimes I see these interviews or vice pieces with these guys, and I'm like, these guys seem, it seems like a great hang. I mean, I think there's maybe a fair amount of like, um, strange drug use, which sounds great. Face paint, strange drug use, a bunch of soda. Yeah. Yeah. Weird, terrible tattoos. They have like, what is it? The, the, the gathering of the juggalos is a big event that they all do in a field. I think we did. You didn't go to that. I didn't go to that. There was, there was a field piece at, I think where they were asking people about during the election, maybe. I want to say, like, there was a lawsuit that maybe went all the way to the Supreme Court that had to do with ICP. They've been, yeah, the Juggalo vote. Here we go. Troy Iwata did a piece with the good old Juggalos. It just shows you the time we are in right now. You can't be apolitical. Even ICP is being brought into the cultural conversation. There was that classic, I feel like SNL made fun of it, where they had a song where it was like, magnets, how does that shit work? They had a song about magnets. But now Trump has done that multiple times where he talks about how magnets in water don't work or something like that. So yeah, whoever won the Super Bowl, congrats. On behalf of Jordan and I, we were proud of you. We knew you were going to do it. Yeah. We always knew you were going to do it. There's a, well, there's a lot of ice reform that's being talked about on Capitol Hill. I don't know if. As of now, Thursday, I think it's funny when we think about what we're going to cover next week on the show. Because as we know, with the world today and the show, more often than not, the thing that we're going to cover, we think we're going to cover the night before changes by the morning. Right. And we sort of take it as it comes. It's a whole other world where it's like, oh, okay, this is the week we're maybe going to invade Greenland. This is the week where we are doing something in Venezuela. Yeah. So there's usually news that happens on Friday or Saturday. Yes. Sort of changes everything. But I know there's talk right now about what kind of funding they're going to approve for for ICE. And there's the Democrats have their requests and whether or not the Republicans give into that. I think that's sort of a two week process right now. So perhaps we'll get some feedback on that next week to understand where that is. There's a real good chance. I think that Republicans and Democrats find like, you know, a thoughtful solution that is both humane to the federal employees and to the people of America and that we kind of can move forward in an optimistic way. I'm loving the optimism. I can't tell if it's sarcastic. I mean, well, I feel like there has been. It's hard to know because like the I'm still seeing horrible footage. It was it was sarcastic. OK, yeah. Yeah. You know that. No, that will not happen. Okay. No, there is, this is, it is just a political football that is going to be wielded to make somebody else pay. The conversations to actually better our police force or Homeland Security, those aren't happening. That's not priority. No, I feel like, well, there has been like, I guess Trump said that he could be using a softer approach. They have said that maybe 700 ICE people are leaving Minnesota. So it does seem like the tiniest bits of progress could be happening. But then I still but then anytime I see a video from Minnesota, it's horrifying. And so. We'll see. I'm sure we'll figure it out, as you said. I'm sure I have I have nothing but the utmost respect for the elected officials and their ability to put their partisanship aside. Right, right, and not milk it for. Great. And speaking of ice, check out this transition. Oh, yeah, I'm excited. The Winter Olympics are starting. Actually, I wish I didn't do that one either. Really, you didn't want that one? I didn't feel right. Anything with ice doesn't feel particularly funny, but I'm sure we'll have to cover it on the show. Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, the Winter Olympics are starting. That's the other big thing is I don't know when the official – Is tomorrow the official start or like the opening ceremonies? What are we doing with that? We're doing it. We got to be doing those things that you can check on your phone, what happens in the morning, but are you going to watch it at night? Is that sort of the dance? That's the dance we've been doing the last few years. Well, last time for the Summer Olympics, like Peacock, I feel like we're a Paramount Plus show. Peacock, this other lesser streaming service. But I feel like you could actually sort of watch whatever you wanted in real time. So like, um, I think we had a hiatus during the summer Olympics and I was just watching like the straight, like table tennis at like six in the morning or whatever. And so, yeah. Um, so I hope that it's similar to that, but yeah, usually, then usually at night they do like, yeah, like NBC will have like a three hours of like the best stuff edited together. So yeah, I feel like the winter Olympics are another thing that's like full of sort of strange hobbyists doing like uh but they yeah there's always like uh i always think of that cross-country skiing with a gun event is classic that is that is a favorite yeah that's like maybe we have too many sports that's happening really this is could these be separate also the gun one do we still need the gun one well the thing is yeah that remember that turkish gun guy from the summer olympics who was really cool and very casually dressed like are we you know what i i remember that and I'm also now remembering the breakdancing which we're not going to get for the winter. I think they kiboshed it. Didn't they kibosh the breakdance completely? It certainly seems like they should have because there was that woman, Ray Gunn, who was maybe scammed her way into being Australia's winner that got to represent that country. I loved the breakdancing. I watched the whole thing. That was cool. Ray Gunn made me laugh. There were some very talented break dancers. I hope they give it another go. Throw it in the Winter Olympics. Add some ice to it. It might make it more fun and play football. Yeah, just have them do it on ice. It felt like as someone who watched a lot of MTV in 2002, it totally had that vibe, but at the Olympics, where it was like, I was like, is Carson Daly here? Because he's great. The story that I have liked so far in the Olympics is this Minions story. Oh, yeah. there's this ice figure skater who Spanish figure skater who has a routine dressed as a minion to a minion solo yellow shirt overalls I recently watched the entire minion canon wow I've never seen a minion movie love the minions I will say the minions are really fun back in the day I caught a despicable me without having children really fell for the minions yeah they're very funny very physical sort of three stooges type comedy great comedy rhythms and my wife and I went to the premiere of the Minions movie and we were the only adults without children there. Wow, great. But proud. Yeah. Very funny and now with a kid we just reached the age where he seems to be interested in Minions and we put it on and we watched all of them really quickly. Wow, that's great. Very funny. You've never seen any? I've never seen because I think I just missed like the window. I was sort of too old and I guess I didn't have I just I never went. You weren't a 39-year-old, you hit that 39-year-old sweet spot of looking for those cartoons? Yeah, I love, I love, I love a lot of animated, I've seen a lot of Pixar movies as an adult. I guess I just never, and, but it's not, I, there's a lot of children's content that I was like, I'll just watch this when I have kids because I'll probably have to watch some of the things a hundred times. Yeah. So that was, that was despicable me and Dominion, but they do seem very fun. All this to say, this guy got the rights to the music finally so he could... This to me is like, there's a lesson here. He was shot down by the Universal Corporation and then he was like, I can't dance to the Minion songs because they've said no. And the world came out and through collective action and bitching, Universal was like, we will give you the song for the Olympics. Wow, that's great. See? So it's like, you can, guys, as a group, we can move mountains and or let a Minion skate at the Olympics. That is great. Yeah. And I'm like wondering if he, does he, do you think he's doing it ironically? Or do you think he just genuinely loves Minions? Or is he, where is his head? I think in the world of figure skating, I'm guessing, I think we're genuinely loving Minions. No disrespect, but it doesn't feel very tongue and cheeky. No, yeah. It feels playful. You know what? I would say Minions is the type of property that is like, oh, this is a, let's call it cheeky, is my guess. It's like a cheeky way to move through it all. Right. Yeah, I wonder. I mean, at that point, they should just have everybody be sort of IP-related. Imagine if there was a Miss Piggy ice skating. Imagine if there was a Pikachu. Oh, my God. Imagine if there was a Melania. Oh, a Melania ice skater? Oh, my God. Just the hat? Big glasses. She flips and they spin with that hat? Oh, my God. Come on. Suddenly, they're like, what are the scores? And instead of tens, they all get $40 million paychecks. and Jeff Bezos is up there with a big smile and thumbs up. It's like, way to go. That would be great, yeah. I'm pulling for him unless anybody has better IP. I was going to say, yeah, I don't know what soundtracks they're using. Like if somebody does the Inception soundtrack, like that is a really moving one and maybe they can use that. Wasn't there a guy that, yeah, I think the music choice is actually pretty huge. I'm trying to remember from the last Olympics. Do they tend to use movie soundtracks? Can they? I don't know. What would be your song? Not to put you on the spot. Probably Kid Rock because you're from Detroit. I would love Kid Rock. No, I would do the Tenet soundtrack. Just like the wah. A lot of that, a lot of skating backwards. People would be very confused. What is going on here? Why is this person on the ice? What's happening? Right. Were you ever, being a Michigander, was winter sports ever in your life? This is what I fucking love about being the Michigander here in New York City. Everybody treats me like I'm from the North Pole. What is it like to make maple syrup every year? We got skate culture, a lot of hockey in Michigan for sure. My sister was a skater. Oh, nice. She did like synchronized skating. Oh. Which was. You're with? You're with like 13 other people dressed the same, skating the same. Wow. What was it called? It was called, sorry, Casey, if I'm, yeah. But it was a team-based skating sport. Wow. So I watched a lot of skating as a kid. Yeah. Yeah. I could not skate. Still can't skate. I'm too tall. I'm like a giraffe out there. Yeah, not ideal. Yeah, I feel like I, we're like in Prospect Park, they'll have like those little, hey, we put up a little ice rink. And I did that for the first time years ago when it was not great. And there's lots of just, there's so many kids that are just flying into you who are skating for the first time, so it's like, it's dangerous but fun. You kind of have a, you got a hockey body. Thank you That very hot right now Run that by HR Yeah no I grew up playing a lot of roller hockey You did But never got to I mostly focused on soccer I was a big soccer player. But I could have – yeah. But I'm also not tall enough. We should combine bodies. Again, you have to stop these texts. Enough with the Wiener documentary of the combined body pitches. It doesn't play. We should just combine bodies. How come you can't tell a coworker that anymore? I've got HR. There's HR here. Alan, can you get HR on the phone, please? Alan. Please? HR's out today. Don't bother. Speaking of Alan, our podcast producer, Alan, we are trying a new segment because there's so much awfulness happening in our country. Alan is Canadian. And so we're going to check in with Alan just to see what news is happening north of the border. Alan. Hi, guys. Hey. So, yeah, north of the border, you know, people are stressed out. They're looking south. My mom's not happy. We picked a headline for this today that combines some of the stuff you guys have been talking about. We got the culture wars. We got the Olympics spilling over into pop culture. Tate McRae, pop star Tate McRae that you guys are both very familiar with. Pop star Tate McRae. We're both McRaniacs, yeah. Tate McRae sounds like something a 14-year-old would say to me about something wild that happened that I wouldn't understand. Oh, that's Tate McRae. That's totally Tate McRae. Oh, yeah, it's totally Tate McRae. Oh, that person is Tate McRae. She participated in an Olympics commercial for NBC for Team USA, and Canada has branded her a traitor. despite being Canadian. That's stolen valor, too. So I'm pissed now. I don't know. I'll pile on Tate McRae. You shouldn't have done it, Tate. Wait, what? Everybody's mad at her and I'm piling on. Okay. I'll get angry at her. Why not? Yeah, sure. Come on. You know what? Why are you doing that, Tate McRae? You're a Canadian. You need to love the Canadians. I'm sure, what, you're going to do this for a paycheck? Is that what everybody does now? Anything for a paycheck? Sell out their own country. True patriotism. You do it because you love your country and the things your country stands for. And it's crazy to do it for America at the same age. It's David Cray to do that. Boy, that is David Cray. Wasn't Catherine O'Hara Canadian? Yes, she was. Rest in peace. I was going to say, we lost a great Canadian. Some of the greatest comedians of all time. Martin Short, all the SCTV people. There was, at the Westminster Dog Show, a moment where they showed clips. Oh, I was going to ask about it. For Catherine O'Hara, which was heartbreaking to hear that. That's one of the funniest movies of all time. She's one of the funniest people of all time. Yeah, I think she's a comedy actor's Mount Rushmore. Right, yeah. Right? I think that's, I mean, she is up there. Totally. And she's, yeah, just seemed so lovely and came out of nowhere. So gutting, really. Do you have a favorite Catherine O'Hara movie? I mean, best in show is a, I mean, any of the Christopher Guest, movies are and i i i mean i did i saw beetlejuice for the first time um like a few years ago like it's just like unbelievable that movie a it was made and b like had all these stars in it and was a like really big hit it's it's such a it's such a strange movie um but and but she's like so incredible in that um i don't know any any big ones for you i mean i yeah i love them all schitt's creek it's such a like perfect distillation of like like that's just her hitting home runs yeah every that's that's like right over the plate for her which was always so fun to see i watched home alone with my family a bunch this holiday and she's just such so glue there that scene with her and john candy is just just perfect and lovely and knowing that they knew each other but like it's just it's just so simple poca poca poca yeah that is like that that is such a classic I love my all-time favorite, though. Waiting for Guffman is one of my all-time favorite comedy movies. And, again, her and Fred Willard are so funny in that. But there's that classic audition scene that makes me laugh so hard. I watch that every year a few times. But the scene where she plays drunk at dinner is one of the best comedic drunk scenes I've ever seen. It's so funny. She's had too much to drink. she can't stop talking about how Fred Willard had a penis reduction and Eugene Levy is so awkward at it. It's just, oh, I could sit in that scene forever. She is a, she's on the Rushmore. She's so, such a wonderful, hilarious, beautiful person. Yeah, yeah, Best in Show. I need to re-watch some of her movies. Go to the Westminster Dog Show, re-watch Best in Show. This world is going to the dogs and that's, that can be a good thing. Home Alone is just like one of my favorite Christmas movies of all time. I think it's played on TBS 24 hours a day for a reason. When you watch it as a little kid and you're like, I just want to be home alone so I can booby trap my house and like hurt robbers. I remember watching that as a kid and like that being the thought. But then you watch it as a parent and you're like, you can kind of like you, she humanizes it in such a way of like, okay, like I've made this really bad mistake. and I will do anything I can to help my son. It's so beautiful. It is a wild thing to watch as an adult. It is still such a beautifully made film, and it's so funny. And it resonated with my son so much. It was really fun to watch a five-year-old watch a movie well laid out, and then the last third of that movie is so funny. It is such a Bugs Bunny thing at the end. It's so well done. It's so funny. But after I showed Home Alone to my son for the first time, He got in a little fight with me the next day, and he made the home alone wish, like, kind of under his breath, which is what I think is, like, I want to be alone. I wish my family would disappear. I wish my family would disappear. He made that wish. He threw it out there. I was like, whoa, whoa. And I let it dangle. I was like, okay. All right. I hear you. I hear you. Is the part of you want to, like, hide the next morning? No, I think out of sheer fear that if I hit the next morning and he was so happy, it would break me for the rest of my life. It would backfire. One euro per month trial and start selling today at Shopify dot NL. That's Shopify dot NL. It's time to see what you can accomplish with Shopify by your side. All right, Klepper, time for something we call the Daily Show and Tell. This Daily Show and Tell segment is brought to you by Ninja Luxe Cafe, the three in one machine that makes espresso, drip coffee and cold brew. No barista skills required. and I'll combine all three into a super drink. Really? Yeah, cold brew, espresso coffee, and I got a real heart issue because of it. That's going to make your heart just jump right out of your chest. That's no fault to the Ninja Luxe Cafe. That's just something I do. I just have a problem. Yeah, so we're not besmirching the brand. My idea for this daily show and tell was inspired. I was thinking about Super Bowl performances. So many great halftime shows over the years. If there is a... But I wanted to broaden it out. So I was going to say... My idea was to ask you what your favorite live music... Like if we put up YouTube right now, we're like, let's watch some classic performances. What's a favorite Clepper live music performance? Because I know you're a big music guy. That's a great question. You know what I would do? First thing that jumps in my head, I would do Death Letter by the White Stripes. Under Blackpool Lights. Ooh, okay. I think one of the greatest live shows I've ever seen was a White Stripes show down in Santiago, Chile. It was like, it was incredible. I saw Jack White perform the song Death Letter, which is a Sun House, an old blues cover. Okay. And it's this really gritty, great blues standard that the White Stripes does, and they just rip shit with it. It was amazing. And so that sort of lived large in my head as this live performance of... this great blues cover. So I always search for, they do it, they used to do it live. Jack White rarely does it, I think, as a solo performer, but the Under Blackpool Lights, I think if I have it correctly, that version of it to me is gritty and beautiful and awesome. A man gets a letter that this person that he loved is dead, and he goes back to carry her coffin and bury it in the ground. So it's like this deep, dark blues, heavy thing. and it's jack white singing this on stage with his ex-wife and and there's just always a tension and a drama between those two there so much of that is projected and what have you and performative but there's just something about like this is a couple who's performing this raw dirty blues song on stage together and there's a dance that's happening and there's already a dance that's happening with like the blues and garage rock but jack white is just in this space performing the song and there's like a moment where he he he chooses to vamp and more often than that when he did this song live like in traditional blues culture you would pull bits and pieces of other songs and throw them in the middle of a blues song they were they were folk in that way they were like they were temporary and modular in that sense and so a lot of times he would in the middle of this song throw in old blues songs and then and then turn to meg and see them i believe in this This one he uses an old, what's the song? Is it like John the Revelator? I forget what it is. But he basically takes another blues song, makes it into a spoken rant that he goes from performing to the audience to performing to Meg. That's, I believe the line, it's so hard to love someone who doesn't love you that he's fucking singing to his ex-wife. Wow. On stage. And he's like chanting. He's emotional. He's sweaty. and he like drops it and then he like turns, drops to his knees and then goes into the guitar solo, which is just like to me, it's kind of everything all in there. Like you can read into it or not, but this is like a couple creating music, borrowing blues and storytelling, like chopping it up and making it about what's happening right here and now. Oh, it's, I love this. One of my favorite rock songs and rock performances for sure. Great. I'm going to watch this whole version after. I love it. All the live versions of this are great, but this is one of my faves. What about you? The Super Bowl makes me think of the Prince Super Bowl performance, which is great. And then also there's a maybe Rock and Roll Hall of Fame performance that he does. I don't know if it's the Beatles are in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame or George Harrison, but they do While My Guitar Gently Weeps with Tom Petty. That's often considered the greatest guitar solo of all time. Yeah, it's like, I feel like I was thinking about it, like, guitar solos can be sort of so, like, can be cheesy and eye-rolly, but, like, or they can be the fucking coolest thing you can do. And, like, I feel like that is, like, yeah, that, I mean, that's classic. That's not too much of a deep cut, but I was at my brother's 40th, and we were just deep in a YouTube music sesh. and someone put on um uh letterman performance tv on the radio wolf like me dude i haven't seen that it's it's great that's just like when an all-time song for me and they just perform the hell of it and then you know letterman comes on it's like hey how about that like that kind of thing but the uh the performance is so good we like watch it like oh it's like just like 20 guys drinking beers nodding their head to this song at this party it was it's such a good performance I highly recommend. There may be no better experience than hanging out with pals and just like YouTube hopping back and forth between like favorite live song performances. Yeah. That to me is, I don't need a Super Bowl. I don't need your fancy tickets. I just need a YouTube subscription. Is that how it works? Maybe with a subscription? Yeah, you don't even think you need a subscription. You can watch ads. Yeah, I'll take the ads. I'll be fine. I'll be fine with the ads. I'm not going to pay extra for it. Just watch me some deep cuts. That is so good. I didn't mean to hijack The Daily Show and Tell. I don't know if you have any other things that you'd like to plug. Do you have any shows coming up? I do have a show coming up. I'm doing my show, Suffering Fools, in North Adams at Mass Mocha on Valentine's Day. Yeah, so I'm going to celebrate Valentine's Day with giving people my stories. Beautiful. The thing that I love most about Valentine's Day is getting the validation of live performance in front of my audience. Yeah, that's the real relationship. That's the real relationship. I'm sure my wife will be happy about that choice. Thanks, Klepper. This Daily Show Intel segment was brought to you by Ninja Luxe Cafe, the three-in-one machine that makes espresso, drip coffee, and cold brew. No barista skills required. Okay, that's this week's pre-cap, and we've had a great time. It was enjoyable. A delight. I'm Zach Galenzo. Catch Jordan Klepper hosting the Daily Show this week on Comedy Central, Paramount Plus, and right here in podcast form on the Daily Show Ears Edition. And Klepper, have a great weekend. Enjoy the Super Bowl. I'm looking forward to you hosting next week. Me too, Zan. We'll have fun next week. All right. Explore more shows from the Daily Show Podcast universe by searching The Daily Show, wherever you get your podcasts. Watch The Daily Show weeknights at 11, 10 central on Comedy Central. And stream full episodes anytime on Paramount+. This has been a Comedy Central podcast.