02-06-26 Part One - Return Of The ShamWow! Guy

Now, it's Red Eye Radio. Gary McNamara and Eric Harley talk about everything from politics to social issues and news of the day. Whether you're up late or you're just starting your day, welcome to the show from the United States. America Studios. This is Red Eye Radio. All across America, we are Red Eye Radio. He is Eric Harley and I'm Gary McNamara. Good morning. Thanks for being here this morning. Well, interesting day yesterday. First off, some of the polling out there. Some of the polling shows that Kamala Harris says a big lead in what? Wordal. Kamala Harris is a big lead for 2028 right now. She was a 34 30% new sums at 24%. Wouldn't hers be wordless salad? Sorry. I got to get them all out of the way. No. I'm sorry. Those repeat those numbers again. She's that she was a 30 and he was a 24 from the poll I saw yesterday. Okay. All right. What I say, she was a 30 new sum of 24. Well, they say. Yeah. Now, now I am, but he's embarrassingly handsome. She's just embarrassing. Right. Right. Now, we know we understand why because that's the best the Democrats can do. The Democrats cannot do any better than Kamala Harris. Right. Even though they've got years to find someone new, they cannot find anybody better than Kamala Harris. But please Republicans, you can do better. Now we're not talking about your presidential candidates. We're talking about a candidate for Congress in Texas in the 31st district, which would be central Texas. Right. Right. Whereas we told you the shamwau guy back a couple of months ago has announced that he is running for Congress. He put out his first official commercial yesterday. Are you ready? All right. Here we go. And by the way, I posted this on my ex page and people were messaging me saying, well, this isn't true. This is a parody. I went, no, this is actually true. He is running and this is his ad. Here we go. OK. Hey, it's Vince. I'm running for Congress against this guy. Stop having a politician that's worse than Biden. For a deaf discretionary funding. Instead vote for me. A guy who's not half dead. I'm going to soak up the swamp, clean the house and pick up those liberal tears at the same time. I'm going to slap chop the nuts out of the woke, making less blue head commies and more red blooded Americans. Both for me. So I can represent you and the ones that can't stand up for themselves. The official. Before by offer, Vince Shamwau, slow me for Congress. He's rolling with it. And he's he's zoning it. He's got the headset on everything. Yeah. If you want to check it out, Gary at red. I won on my ex page. He's running against I think is represent of Carter who's 84 years old. Shamwau. Shlomi. Yes. He's he's rolling with it. He's using that as his identifier because that's ever you already got to build in brand. I guess you go with it, right? Yes. Yeah. I'm glad he worked in the slap chop though. I actually own one of those. I don't think I don't think I bought it off TV. I think I bought it at the store somewhere. But the funniest thing is the people writing me going, that's a good parody. Is that in the Babylon B? And I went, no, this is real. No, it's real. No way. I go. Yeah. It's real. It's real. So yes, Sham, Shamwau. Yeah. Well, he could get it and he could get out of slap chop thing and say, we're going to cut spending, you know, and then do it. You know, the whole thing. He's basically what you just heard there is kind of like an abbreviated version of his info martial that he used to do. That's basically what you just heard, you know, and you kind of keep doing that. I don't think it's going to go anywhere, but at least it's entertaining. I have to find the polls to see if there's a poll yet in the district. I see a lot of jasmine crockets ads on digital. I see a ton of them on digital. That is becoming a zoo. Yeah. You know, when I saw it, when I saw Tallariko, we mentioned this just briefly yesterday. Yeah. Tallariko out there trying to, you know, one of his major points he's trying to make is that the Bible approves of abortion. Yeah. And I'm thinking to myself, so nobody's attempting to be the moderate at all. No, no. No, it's like a competition. Who's the craziest? Who's the most insane over the top radical between those two? And that's what they're doing. And then the one poll yesterday, to see the other poll for the Texas Senate primary, the JL partners. Now everybody's questioning whether this is a legit poll or not. But it was a Paxton 27, Corning 26, Wesley Hunt 26. Everything is in the margin of error. There was Wesley Hunt in that in the one. The Emerson poll going back, and this would have been likely voters. This goes back to the 10th of the 10th and the 12th of January. Paxton had 27, Corning 26 and Hunt 16. Yeah, I was going to say it was in the teens somewhere. And all of a sudden boom. Yeah. Now the again, they had one poll, the coefficient poll. This is from early December. And I'm like, that's early December. But it was the biggest number of people twice the number, poll of likely voters. And Paxton had 27, Corning 28 and Hunt had 19 at that point. But look, you know, when you look at, when you look at Corning and you look at Paxton, among Republicans, they look at it and they go, Wesley Hunt's really good. Yeah, I appreciate it. He, the way he presents himself, when he's on, I think looking for someone who will actually do what Republicans want, the image that the projection of authority and confidence and Paxton who's been around a while for Republican voters to know and Corning too, they look at him and go, well, he's the new guy. Give him a chance. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Less baggage. But also less of the, how do I want to phrase this? The legacy battle, the type of baggage of the back and forth, because you know, Paxton has a strong following, no doubt. As AG of Texas, there was a strong following for him. A lot of us not happy with Corning. And that's been the case for a while. It's just a, he's just a blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, I mean, I just kind of, in some ways, he does it, he has the, he has the passion of Susan Collins from Maine. You know what I mean? They don't have the exact same voting record. But you know, you know, I'm going, it's like, it's like, are you willing to fight? You know, I mean, are you willing to, and I think that's what Paxton really wanted to take advantage of because Paxton's shown a record of, you know, the bulldog approach. Right. And, but, but, no, but that's, you use the word, is he willing, let me put it this way, is he, is he willing to fight, but not over the top crazy? Right. You mean for, for Corning, for Wesley Hunt, for Wesley Hunt, for Wesley Hunt, is, is, is, he's could be, he could be the, he's the best of both worlds. We know somebody who will fight, but he's not need the bulldog, but, but he's not viewed as a radical. Right. He's viewed as a solid conservative. Right. Right. And, and we've talked about that before. And the fact that he's getting that message out, and if that polling is correct, if he is moving in, in that direction, that would be a huge, huge jump in, in a short period of time. And so, one of the things is name recognition, and I, I can't, it's impossible. I can't look at how I view things or you view things and say, well, yeah, we all know who he is. He's got great recognition with us. We don't count. Right. Right. Yeah. Because it's all we do is look at all this stuff and, and see where it is in the average person, just doesn't. And that's not an insult. It's just, you know, it's, when you talk about, you've got, you know, three candidates or a congressperson from this particular, well, we've seen how many people in the country, for example, cannot name major politicians. Yeah. Right. And it's really amazing when you think about it. If you pay attention to talk radio, our listenership, our listeners, our great listeners, for example, probably know who Wesley Hunt is, especially if you live in Texas, you know, who he is. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter with anybody knows you outside of it. Wesley Hunt has gone viral on a number of videos over the last couple of years, which if you're a Republican who pays attention, even outside of Texas, you know who he is. Yeah. Oh, I did get it wrong, though. I've the, the latest poll. Harris, it's the raspy son pole. Harris has 34 news, new sum 20, but a judge 10. A Cassiore Cortez 7, Shapiro 10, Kelly Pritzker and Spartacus 6, Bashir and more three. Why is Spartacus on there? I don't know. I don't know. So yeah, when you, so I just thought some of the polling was interesting, especially with Harris, still solid. Think about that. Newsom has to be pulling his hair out, but the fact is it's even effective. It's, it's, it's effective in even Democrat circles. Newsom heads California and Democrats say, well, if he, if he's representing California, he can't win a national race. Right. Why if you were a Democrat and look, we know they're insane on the issues to begin with. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you look at Harris and you go, she was a man, you metal favor. Right. I do Democrats actually are they buying into her book? Well, if I would have had more time, if you give me a lead up of three years where I can do more intense interviews and maybe a Joe Rogan podcast this time. I think so. And so I think the, it's, it's the, you know, Biden didn't do any, you know, didn't do any good by what he was doing at the time. I think, I think with there, because again, you got to put yourself in their delusional mind state. You've got to understand where their mind is. I wouldn't recommend putting yourself there. Stay away from it if you can't, but you have to understand where their mindset is. And if you look at it, there's no doubt that I think a number of people do buy into. Well, she had a real campaign. Then beyond that, she would have if not for Biden's incompetence, she would have been better as a vice president. Now for debt, completely, the fact that she failed drastically in the 2020 race as a candidate when she was running for president. And by December 3rd at 2019, she was out because her campaign was imploding and the money was gone. The organization was imploding. And if you can't lead an organization, if you can't excite an organization, you know, your organization, your campaign, and you can't also can't get money, then something's very wrong. I think on the larger scale, it's one thing for respondents to be there on the larger scale, you're going to have to see money going her way. You're going to have to see a number of things. You're going to have to see some, again, organization of a campaign, the boots on the ground for her and all over the US, that kind of support because that is going to tell you where the confidence is in the true confidence is and not just responding to a pollster, but it may be there. I do by 28 or by 27. I know no, but there's no doubt to answer your question. There are people that believe that if she had more than 107 days, you know, if she had a full real primary season to run and everything else, well, she had one and she botched it horribly. And of course, nobody wants to live in the bubble. But but she wasn't, let's put it, let's put it, she wasn't an unknown that just happened to come in with 107 days. She was not vice president exactly United States. Well, no, that's that's the delusional part. It should have been because if something happened and president Trump, you know, had decided to stand down and not run again or whatever and let's say JD Vance, you know, was going to go, JD Vance would have momentum. She didn't have momentum. She didn't have any because within the Biden administration, we know the back and forth and that they just didn't really care for each other, but there was no confidence in her. And that was widely reported. Did you see, I think it's on the NBC interview for the Super Bowl. Trump was asked and all he's he didn't pick a particular person. This was interesting. He didn't say in the clip I saw maybe said another clip, but he didn't say he said, well, I think JD Vance and Marco Rubio would be great through Rubio in there. Right. Yeah. He said that before. Yeah. I know. Yeah. There's a few months ago. Yeah. We are right. I radio brought to you by hot shot secret. Hi, I'm Jen Lumis, a transport safety expert at JJ Keller. 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We are Red Eye Radio, he's your chrony and I'm hearing McNamara coming up on the bottom of the hour, the latest on the abduction of Nancy Guthrie and what we learned yesterday. Also coming up the the the blowback now on the radical transgender movement. I mean, it's just it's growing every single day. And we'll after that civil lawsuit. So we will get to that and I love this headline. The Middle East politics comes to New York City. The homeless dying in the streets. Garbage not picked up all that and the still the fallout and just some of the response still in the Washington Post layout yesterday and it just to mean it just gets to be fascinating. It's like enough already. Yeah, people get laid off all the time. Well, it's look if you're losing tons of money then something drastic is going to have to change. You're going to have to change really the approach of the Washington Post all together. You know, the New York Post, it was the former editor of the I mean, New York Times. 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Now, we mentioned Rashmusson because yesterday we mentioned Mark Mitchell from Rashmusson reports, who was at the White House telling the president back in December, I think it was or November, I think it was November, I think saying, look, you've, you've got it, you've got it, you've got to solve these things. Otherwise, you're in trouble and talked about the, you know, 42% I was looking at CNN today saying Trump and the Republican Party, the mega movement is stronger than it was in 2016. It doesn't matter. You need more than the mega movement, need more than the mega movement in order to, in Republicans need more than the mega movement in order to win. In 24, by the way, more than the mega movement, whatever the mega movement is in, in 2026, and I don't know what it is. Or I think we have to include the possibility and or how much of the mega movement is still solid based on certain moves that he's made. Well, what they're saying that this is CNN, that's what I was just saying. They were saying he's more popular in the mega movement now than he was beginning of 2016. Well, again, it gets back to defining what, what the mega means and and house because the question would be, all right, even if if the mega movement, let's just say the mega movement is fully intact, there hasn't been any erosion of the mega movement whatsoever. How many of them are motivated by members of Congress that are that they're going to be voting for in November. He's not going to be on the ballot, but he's he has to lead the party. This is, you know, the whole point. Can he convince them? Because that's your uphill battle. And then the bigger battle, you've got to win over independence in order to get them there. You know, you need your party on Capitol Hill for the second half of your second term. You know that and you're going to have to do everything you can to appeal to a broad group like you did in 24, a much broader group than just the mega base. When you know, you and I talked about that there's been a change, obviously there's been a change in the last couple of days with how the administration has reversed itself on a number of different areas. And Mark Mitchell brought that up. He brought up. They've got to do this. I got to do this. You can't be doing this. Everything that we had mentioned, even affordability. I don't think he focused enough Mark Mitchell in the article yesterday and we said it on affordability, but everything that we have brought up of the challenges that this administration has that we've been criticized for. Mark Mitchell has told the president and the president apparently now is listening, especially in the last in the last week now and affordability. Don't know what he's going to do because that really comes down to comes down to the tariffs, which is something that he's still struggling with Republicans. Right. But Republicans are going to stand by him, obviously on on the border. And I think that Republicans are smart enough to look because you don't hear any criticism about putting home in there. Do you know, because there is a part of the Republic of of mega that looks at a part of the Pambondian says you didn't deliver that looks at a, a, a, a no man say, look, a, a Christie no man says, look, we understand what you're doing. But if this can be done, you know, we need to do all these things and get them done, but still keep the poll numbers high. You've got to be able to do both. As we've always said, what Republicans have to do is promote conservative principles. We think it's not too hard to convince the independence that it's a lot better than where the insane Democrats are. Now, the one, the one light that I see two lights actually, you've seen the president now start something happened in the last week with the, with a bunch of different things. As we talked about starting with home and, and other things out there where it's like, okay, they know they're getting heard in the polls right now. They know it. But the light at the end of the tunnel is the fact of the Democrats are still as insane as ever, watching Chuck Schumer on yesterday. I think it was CNN. I'm not going to, I'm not going to miss NBC where they said, look, 71% I'll find the audio. 71% of Democrats say this needs to be done. Why are you going for it? Because it's Jim Crow 2.0. Like that's not going to cut it. You've cried the racism for decades on voter ID and it hasn't worked. And if you do this, if you do this right, if you focus on the voter, the, the voter ID, if you focus on fraud, if you focus on the, the, the, tie in sanctuary cities to fraud, where money as we've seen the fraud going, for example, to so many Somalis who came in, when you bring up the fraud, sanctuary cities, when you bring all of it up, when you bring up what Biden did, yeah, when you bring up how success you've been at the border, it works. You also have to talk affordability because it's killing people. I was looking at, I've said the other day, my natural gas bill, highest it's ever been, highest it's ever been by probably 75 bucks for last month. Now it's been a little bit colder than matter. You see it, you see even in these, but then again, you look at in these liberal states, like New York, do you see the poll? The, you know, locals doing better. Hocles doing better in the polls. Yeah. So what you've got to also realize is in many of these blue states, they wish to destroy themselves. When you look at Minnesota, those politicians wish to destroy their communities, those activists wish to destroy their communities and a significant portion of the Democrats also wish to destroy their communities. Yep. And so when that's the case, you look at it and you go, all right, you got to hit independence because you've lost the Democrats that are left in the Democratic party promoting the insanity of so many of the ideas that they propose are not going to stop supporting the Democratic party. So you need to get the independence and I don't believe it's that hard to get the independence. I don't either on things, especially that are happening when there's, when there's a greater increase of crime in their community, when there's a greater increase of a presence of foreign criminals in their, in their community, then it changes hearts and minds pretty quickly. And if you're creating these, these blue cities and blue states creating these ice-free zones, inevitably, you're going to see more foreign gang activity in those zones. And it's not going to take the wall. This is how the cartels and the gangs play it. They know. They need distribution for their drugs. They care nothing about life, they care nothing about the law. They believe they're under the radar, not only are they under the radar, but in these sanctuary cities and sanctuary counties and sanctuary states, they can get away with it all day long. That they themselves can play the victim and the activists on the left will help them do it. And that's a very dangerous situation given the history of the cartels and these dangerous gangs. Now, the interesting thing is with the, with Schumer out there, I see another article, it's like, Schumer's out there promoting this stuff, but everybody hates Schumer, including the Democrats. Well, in fact, that was just, here's a story from Axios. One quote from a Democrat in the House, he needs to get the hell out about Schumer. House Democrats found themselves, again, this is from Axios. House Democrats, and hold on, I'll tell you why it matters in a minute. House Democrats found themselves in the familiar position this week of seething at Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer for negotiating a deal with the Republicans to keep the government funded. Why it matters. While his caucus remains behind him, Schumer is becoming persona non grata for much of the progressive wing of the Democratic party. It was Deelia Ramirez out of Illinois. She's a Democrat in the House. She says, I'm going to continue to tell you that Schumer needs to get the hell out over and over and over until he does. He continues to demonstrate to us that he can't meet the moment. And again, as they point out in Axios, this is nothing new. He's been putting the cheese on raw burgers for quite some time. He's not getting the job done. But it's not because the Democratic party looks at Schumer and says you're too, excuse me, that you're too radical and we need to moderate. Yeah, it's quite the opposite. They look at Chuck Schumer who is as freaking radical left as you can get. Yeah. And they're saying you're not radical enough. Right. When you look at the, you know, Jasmine Crockett, you know, Talleriko, primary here in Texas, they're trying to one up as to who can be the most crazy. Yeah. And when you got Talleriko out because you think about it, if you ask anybody, if they know of Talleriko, what they're going to say is, well, yeah, he's a guy that says that the Bible allows abortion. Yeah. Well, that's not a winner in most places. And it's definitely not a winner in the state of Texas. Right. And so he was viewed, remember, well, maybe he can be viewed as a moderate over a radical Jasmine Crockett and it's been going in the opposite direction. Yeah. Yeah. Or I saw she had to leave the other day in one of the new polls that was out. And her ads are filled with, you know, abolish ICE and impeach known. And Texas, of course, a massive border state. But, you know, again, it's the battle to prove who's more radical. And it keeps going on the left. This is the future, these, these people of the future of the party, whether she wins the Senate seat or not, she's not going to go away. The radical faction of the Democratic Party is going nowhere. It's growing. And they'll, they'll go anywhere they have to in order to gain power. They'll, you know, it's, it is going to, it's, it's going to be never ending. As we said and have said now for years, they're not done. The fight isn't over. It wasn't over in 24. After Trump won, again, it's not, it's certainly not over now, especially with the economy. And you've, there's an uphill battle at the Republican Party and the president by the way, you know, the president said, it was a couple of weeks ago, yeah, I'm going to be campaigning for the midterms. I'm going to be going out there and campaigning really hard and the whole thing, which is great. That's fine. The Republican Party, each of them is going to have to pull their own weight. And I don't know what you do. I have no idea at this point what you do. We're well into February now. I don't know what you do on affordability. I have no idea what they're going to try and promise or make happen between now and November. Everybody, including us, was saying we were saying it about a year ago. You know, you need to get that game going now. So the results start doing the heavy lifting for you and start working for you. A year later, we're still saying the same thing. And I think it's, it may be too late to enact anything because anything that you enact is going to, first of all, take time to do that. And then it's going to take time for those results to actually realize. Well, you've got two things that could possibly happen. It's a supreme, but the Supreme Court may not do it till July. Supreme Court comes out and says tariffs are all gone. That might, I don't know whether it would do it. How long it would take would lower prices a little bit. Yeah. Then the other thing would be the only thing they have left is to give the American public more money. Right. Some kind of rebate or something. You know, more tax rebate. I don't know, I don't know where they go. A boven beyond your taxes April 15th. Right. That's not going to happen. I don't see that happening because you know, we can do that is to increase the debt. They're not going to, they're, they're, they're not going to pay for it. Right. And then the increasing the debt more puts more pressure on inflation. Right. Yeah. And then your new Fed chair is going to have to do something about that. Yeah. And the new Fed chair isn't going to have, if he gets in, is not going to have from what we know, easy monetary policy. No, we are running radio. Coming up more with Gary McNamara and Eric Harley. It's red eye radio. We are running radio. He's currently not during McNamara. So someone has asked me to, you know, in less than 50 words where we are right now for the midterm election. It's Republicans need to do something on affordability and, uh, uh, Demar, you know, and Democrats are just going bat soup insane left even more. Yeah. Yeah. And so what does that mean for November? I don't know. I have no idea. And outside of their primary, I don't expect the Democrats to try and moderate at all, you know, pass their primary, which historically you would do back in the day. But now there's really it's about becoming even more radical getting closer to November. Out to the hour news is brought to you by How's products. Visit How's products.com. This is Red Eye Radio on Westwood One. Now it's Red Eye Radio. Gary McNamara and Eric Harley talk about everything from politics to social issues and news of the day. Whether you're up late or you're just starting your day, welcome to the show from the United America studios. This is Red Eye Radio. All across America. We are Red Eye Radio. He is here. Carlian. I'm Gary McNamara. Hello. Good morning. Thanks for being here. Happy Friday to you. All right. I just saw the cable news rankings have have come out. It's like wow. They're all in last place. Well, Fox News seems to be doing okay. Oh my gosh. The Fox News has the top 16 shows. Let me put it this way. The top 16 hours because they go by they go by the hour. They don't go by the entire show. Right. Right. But the the five number one, the five at five PM, 4.1 million. Yeah. Jesse Waters in, got fell to 10 at 10 PM, 3 million at 10 PM. That's great. He's crushing it. That's unbelievable numbers. And it's very funny. By the way, he's very funny on that. Brett Baer at at 6 PM, then Hannity at 9 PM, Ingram, America reports with Smith and Roberts, 2 PM in the afternoon. Wilkins show America reports with Smith and Roberts. Story, the story with Martha McCallum out numbered is number 11. America newsroom with Perino and Hammer is is 12. That's the 10 AM hour. They also have the 9 AM hour, which is number 14. The Faulkner focus at 11 AM also is number 13. Fox and friends number 15. Fox News at night with trace Gallagher number 16. And so there you go. The top 16. Then you get MS now. Wow. Just so tough to say, MS now. I'm not used to it. What are they? That's right. MS now. Lauren, so Donald is the top show, the last word number 17. Yes. At MSNBC. And then you start going down. And I start looking at some of the other shows out there. And I'm like, Oh, where's Abby Phillips? Because that's where Scott Jennings is always on. And those little clips go viral. Yeah. So, you know, where's where is she here? So I start scanning and scanning going, okay, where's Abby Phillips? Number 30. No, she's not there. Let me see. We go number 35. No, not there. Number 40. Not there. Number 47. Is where Abby Phillips is. Wow. The lead with Jake Tapper. 48. Wow. The situation room with Wilblitzer 50. And but you go down and you look at it. And then the interesting thing is I don't see any newsmax in the top 63. Yeah. News Nation. Nothing. And I will wait a minute. Did they exclude them maybe? I just did the research here over the, you know, I go, did they exclude them for some reason? You know, because we see, for example, see Chris Cuomo, especially talking on news nation, right? And so you wonder. Yeah. And now the, the, let me just get back to it again. I'm going through a bunch of different windows here. The repeat with Anderson Cooper at 1 a.m. 184,000 people watching. Okay. Now that, that's a repeat of the show. Right. At at 1 a.m. So it's like, okay, you're telling me nobody from, for example, newsmax beats that. Uh, newsmax is currently the 37th most popular channel on TV watched by a total number of 156,000 people down 13% from December of 2025. Hmm. Hmm. So you look at it. You go, they're doing nothing. Yeah. To get a hundred thousand people, you have to have just basically a signal. Right. A signal with anything on it gets you those kind of numbers. And then, uh, when I was looking for what happened in news, I had news nation would be safe to say the Shamwile commercials had more viewers. Probably. Yeah. But it had, of course, more placement on different channels. So yeah. Uh, yeah. And where did I, I was looking for somehow news nation was like 108,000. You know, I, I look at the business model that, to me, the overall business model of cable news, again, Fox news is chugging right along, uh, assuming everything's going fine on revenue. I don't know. I can't tell you that. But uh, you and I have friends over at Newsmax. I saw something from Chris, El Sato posted the other day. Typically, when I see things from news nation or Newsmax, it's on their social media or YouTube page. I don't have cable. So it's, it's in fact, always on social media. Uh, if we're watching something from Chris Cuomo or something that's posted and it comes across. And that's about timing too, or depending on how viral it goes, how wide it goes on social media, it may rise to the top. But that's the only time I see either of those two, anything from those two channels. But cable subscriptions being, you know, down further and further and further, you know, Fox launched their, basically they're all in one app, which is, I think the top tier is 24, 95 a month. You get all of it. You get Fox news. You get your local Fox station. You get, uh, Fox nation. And I don't remember what else. But you can watch it now without cable. It, which is going to be the trend. But if you look at like the late night talk shows, Kimmel, even Fallon, uh, Colbert, the most, the largest audience collectively comes from the clips landing on social media after the show airs. And they're on network. They're on free TV. And I'm wondering how much, you know, cable news gets a benefit, you know, from that. I, I follow all of them. You know, so I see their clips, but I'm wondering because that can be monetized. Their YouTube channels get monetized the same way. An original content creator does. And so all of that can be monetized. But you're looking at a collective audience, a collective reach, basically, you know, with all of that involved. Because if you don't have a streaming game, right now, especially in cable news, with the exception of Fox news, your futures limited. And I think even with Fox news, they realize that. And that's why they launched their app, you know, allowing people to get Fox news now outside of cable or satellite subscription. And I, I just think that's the business model going forward. We're seeing that with everything sports and everything. It's you're going to have to have some kind of streaming outlet, or even creating your own proprietary streaming outlet. Were you telling me the bills were creating their own. Yeah, teams are doing it now. Yeah, the, yeah, the Buffalo bills have left the radio station that was carrying them. And they're going to do their own broadcast and do everything on their own. Yeah. And then maybe attempt to sell it to other radio stations and do streaming. Yeah, that's where you kind of have to be on all the above, you know, yeah. Well, one of the things is when you look at that, all the NFL teams out there, look, the NFL keeps up in the price on everything. But radio has changed completely for the NFL. Because when I worked for radio stations, it carried NFL teams before in the past going back, you know, 35, 40 years. Remember in the 70s, every home game was blacked out. Yeah. Yeah. So you got huge numbers. Radio stations, we get huge numbers for the NFL because there was no television option. Right. Now every home game is being shown even in the 90s. Remember they had that 72 hour rule. If you didn't sell out, if they're all the teams used to be scrambling, they're trying to get somebody to buy the tickets, you know, by Thursday night. So the home game can be shown on TV. Well, that changed the dynamics completely. Yeah. Of, of radio because everybody's watching when the whole when your home team is playing and the NFL, everybody's watching it on TV. Right. Your audience probably was cut. I don't know 70, 80%. Right. And so, yeah, so streaming NFL teams selling all their own ads to, you know, or the vast majority of the ads instead of the instead of selling into the radio stations. But a lot of radio stations have said, no, we're not going to do it anymore. A lot of radio companies, the major radio companies have said, right. Right. The return. It's too expensive. Well, when, when they used to, when, for example, at a home game, for example, the you're carrying it on the NFL. And you've got these stations that start the pre game show at seven a.m. Yeah. And the game might be at noon or one o'clock. Yeah. And they start the pre game show at seven a.m. The games over at four. They keep the post game show going till nine a.m. And they're just pumping everything they can because they're trying to keep that audience right that have clicked that radio station there for Monday morning. And when you had such a huge influx of people on that Sunday, you know, listening to that, that home game, they stayed during the week. And you can see, especially in the fall rating books, where that, where that would show. Right. And it's not, it's not the same. So the return on the investment for the local stations aren't there, which means the return on the investment for the NFL teams weren't there. And they're all about with, you know, we, we see what the salaries were in the NFL 40 years ago compared to now. Yeah. What are they? 100 times more. Yeah. I'm not kidding. Yeah, they weren't making. They weren't making that kind of money. In the 1970s, you still had NFL players working second jobs. Yeah. Oh, yeah. In the off season. Right. Yeah. And I'm not, we're not talking about doing commercials. My, my uncle with friends with Bob Lilly. And they went to college together. And I got to meet Bob Lilly came to a radio station. I was working at to record a commercial. You know, I was like, Hey, you know, you knew my uncle. And he's like, Oh, yeah, well, tell them hello and the whole thing. And, you know, and then someone, I think it was our, it wasn't our sports guy. It was, it was a guy that worked at the station that was heavy in sports. Actually, I think it's our friend Tommy. Tommy Daniels, I think that is the one who told me this. Oh, that, you know, back in his day, they made nothing. You know, they weren't making anything. And this would have been the late 80s, early 90s, actually, I think, uh, when, when Tommy and I were working at the same station, I think, and he said, you know, those guys didn't, they weren't making anything. It was the late 80s, early 90s when it started Sky ride. That's when, that's when it started. That's, that's, yeah, that's, but it was making the news. All these new salarists come in. Now, you see these deals with players and it's like over the top. I mean, it's massive amounts. 200 million, yeah, 100 million over a particular time period with the, now the only thing that really matters is the guarantee because if you let go that you get the guarantee, but you don't get the rest of the money. Right. But the star players get the majority of those guarantees. Right. But looking here, for example, I wanted to see Chris Cuomo at news nation. What did he doing? All right. And this was from IMBD. Cuomo was struggling to replicate the same success he found at CNN with his news nation series. The ratings for Cuomo are reportedly down 90% overall and 95% of the 25 to 54 age demographic compared to his time at CNN, according to Nielsen rating numbers shared with the New York Post. This is last August. I don't have an updated trust right now. But the journalist self titled series reportedly averages around 164,000 total viewers and 15,000 in the 25 to 54 age demographic in comparison. His former show on CNN, 1.4 million listeners, watch reviewers and 374,000 in the 25 54 demographic. So that's why they don't appear. And what I find interesting though is because you and I don't know how to qualify this, but I just find it interesting. Trump has rejected Fox News as we know. Yeah. Don Jr. We don't watch Fox News anymore. We don't watch it anymore. Remember after the 2020 election, don't watch Fox News go to Newsmax. Remember that push? Yeah. Right. Never worked. No. You know, I'm looking at at one example of someone who's no longer in the media. He's certainly been in the news lately. And they're doing it on their own. They're doing their own YouTube thing. Don Limit. So just as an example, because his name's been at the top of the mind, because of everything going on with them lately. But he's got 1.2 million subscribers. Now, if you look at it, his videos aren't getting 1.2 million views. You know, they're getting tens of thousands, but they're not getting, but still, if you look at it, I mean, some of the videos have, you know, 100,000 views. Are all the videos after the church? I'd have to go back and put them in chronological order, because, you know, they organize them differently. I have to look at that here and see if they'll, if they have that available. Let's see here. Let's see. So the ones after the church, let's see here. 56,000, 22,000 on one 139,000. And so in some of these videos, he's outperforming some cable news shows. Yeah. You know, and everybody says, you know, it's, it's, and we've made fun of Obermann and others. And, you know, they're all now in their basement in their bedroom or whatever doing their own thing. But if they do it right, they can monetize. They're not going to monetize the way they did and back in the heyday on cable news, but they can monetize and get more viewers than some of the cable news channels. 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Yeah, the top 16 shows are all Fox News, which is pretty amazing. And then the drop off is just huge. And you know, the interesting thing is Eric, when you when you look at Trump's first term, remember in Trump's first term, Fox News ratings went down in MSNBC. Remember how they went up and CNN's ratings were up. Yeah, yeah. And this is to me, this is I don't know what it means. But it's really interesting. And I don't know how what this means for the midterm, but you've got Trump. Now in his second term, you've got the numbers his his poll numbers, not where he wants them to be. Affordability still a problem. Uh, on the issue, so in this is the one thing on the actual issues. If you take the Republican party and Trump's name off of it, the vast majority of the American people agree with Republicans. And but it's very interesting to see Trump who possibly, you know, could be a lame duck president by November, right? That's a possibility. The Fox News is through the roof and the liberal media is crashing. The cable networks are absolutely crashing. And I just I find that I just find that fascinating. Well, I wonder if you know, I mentioned earlier that the one of the former editors of the New York Times mentioned that every time Trump, there was a story about Trump, subscriptions went through the roof. That was during his first term. I wonder if that's still the case now. But that's a good that's a good point, but it was the fact that they were criticizing Trump. I think they're still criticizing Trump. No, no, well, remember the Washington Post would not endorse last year. Well, then and they and that's that's view. I mean, the the people that were reading the Washington post and I do think that after they didn't endorse last year, they're not looking for news. They're looking for political activism. Well, that's what the Denver, yeah, and New York Times would be the same. Right. And if you know, if they were if they were going up during the first term and they're not going up now and it's like cable news, cable news was the liberal activism cable news was going up during the first term and not so much these days, I have to believe a lot of that though is based on the issues and what Trump pointed out what, well, what was obvious to to most of us, but during those Trump years and then during the period when he was not president during the Biden years, how they went after him. I think there's a lot less tolerance for that except for the radicals, the very strong radical base outside of that, your general audience really doesn't tolerate that kind of garbage. Now, and you know, you get into law fair and everything else in that discussion, but now things are different and and once they migrate away from what people viewers leave those channels, they leave that experience, you're changing what you're doing is you're changing their routine. You know, the audience for Fox News seemingly based on the ratings is loyal. That loyalty is key because you're competing not just with other cable news, you're competing with everything on every streaming any form of information and I wonder again, all right, did habits change because they believe they're not being radical enough at CNN. They're not being radical enough at MSNBC, even though joy read gets fired basically for being too radical. Well, I think, but that could have turned off some of the radicals from watching MSNBC, you fired joy read, but I think one of the things that is that is going on is, for example, I forgot who wrote the article last week, he was Jonathan Turley talking about, look, they're not changing at these networks. These people would rather that the network would die, or than a newspaper would die. Yeah. Then, then actually try to be fair. And he talked about the CNN meeting where they were saying, you gotta let you got a fire Scott Jennings. These are people at CNN saying, Scott Jennings has to go. And I think the thing is what they don't like. They don't like it. There's a couple of audio cuts that I have where CNN and actually MSNBC daring to even challenge the politicians. They don't want that. Right. They don't want that. They don't want a Scott Jennings. They just want the propaganda. But they have gone so insane that even the anchors, you know, that's one of the problems, even with Morning Joe at times, is a look at it and they'll go, well, I mean, this is just ridiculous. This is ridiculous. This is ridiculous. This is ridiculous. This is, you know, it's sort of getting to be, if you want to look at the barometer, the barometer would be Bill Marr. Yeah. Well, yeah, I'm still a Democrat, but he questions everything. They don't want to, they do not want to be questioned. It's either you're a board or you're not. And I think that's what's hurting them. They want pure political activism. They believe they were getting it from the Washington Post. And when the Washington Post said, Hey, we're not going to endorse anybody. That was it. Yeah. And I think when you're not going to commit, if you're not going to, again, silence this violence, that spirit of silence is violence is very much a play in that scenario. If that's the case, because you're not willing to, again, fight, you're not willing to radical enough and go the full measure. That's what we're looking for. Well, when you, when you see, for example, the Kamala Harris is still leading by 14 points in the last polling. For the next, you know, for the Democratic nomination for 2028, Newsom can't get any inroads. Think about this. Josh Shapiro is not really a moderate. As we brought up as, you know, because of the whole ice thing last week, where's like, okay, this is a, they can't consider him, but he would be viewed on other issues as a moderate for Democrats, not Republicans, for Democrats, but they reject him because he's Jewish. Yeah. Anti-Semitism leads, we all know it. You know, we saw, I mean, when you wrote this book about what Kamala Harris's people asked him whether he's a double agent for Israel. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, my God, I mean, these people are bad, soup, crazy, and they only want bad, soup, crazy. And if somebody challenges them like a Scott Jennings, think about it. The one reason, you know, we play the audio cuts of him, but nobody wants to sit through the insanity of the left. Right. Right. But the left would. But then when Scott Jennings comes on, they turn off because he's making a point that they can't argue with and what infuriates Democrats as I found out many, many times over my couple of decades doing this. Many decades doing this is right now you cannot criticize a, if you make a salient point against a Democrat point, you will infuriate them. Oh, yeah, they'll go bonkers. Yeah, they'll change the topic. Yeah, you know, you see even in these hearings that are going on, you know, in the, the president's when Besan has been on whatever Democrats, Besan even said the other day, he said, you know, I'm here to talk about this and you're talking about something completely different. Are we ever going to get to why I'm here? They don't want to talk about why he's there. They only want to talk about what they believe is they don't want to talk about where they actually are on the issues because they know independence won't agree with them. And they know they need independence. They may need independence more than the Republicans need independence. Yeah. Because at least Republicans agree, I would vote even though we've criticized Trump. I would vote for Trump again over any of the Democrats because do I disagree with Trump on things? Absolutely. Do I think the things he says at times are inappropriate for a president? Yep. Do I think he always tells the truth? Of course not. But he's better than the option. Yep. Way better than the options, the other options that exist out there because the other side has shown no sense of moderating at all. In fact, they've gotten more radical and more radical and more radical. And that is the, I don't know, ray of sunshine in terms of the possibilities of November, of where it goes. Is the fact that yes, the radical and what they're fighting for right now, look at the shift in recent days since the lawsuit on on transgenders. The lawsuit came down and when it landed, you had the American Medical Association and one other association come out and say, no, we have to rethink this. We can't be doing this. If that's the case and it's funny because I said that night when the when we were talking about the lawsuit that the medical community is going to have to come to terms on this. But as those things are happening and you see that more and more the case, it is proof. You shouldn't need proof. It's common sense to all of us. But it is shutting down a major driver for the left. Now, they're still pushing against it. They're still going to campaign for it. They still want open borders. They still want all of these radical things. And if you look at it, you know, the Jasmine Crocket thing, basically is pointing to we need open borders. Do away with ice and impeach. No, you know, she didn't say open borders in the ad, but that's what they're pressing for. And then voter ID, Jim Crow 2.0, sorry, Chuck, it's 3.0, 2.0 was the Georgia bloating law. Always taking the burger off too early. But those, you know, that's what they end. You know, they're looking at, you know, the Axio story, the radicals in the house and the Democrats, what Chuck got. Yeah. He's losing it. He doesn't know how to be radical enough. And he's radical. Yep. He's become as radical as you can get them. And it's like, and I think another perfect example is the Talariko Jasmine Crocket race here, where they're fighting to try to prove to Texans who is crazier than the other one. Exactly. I burst out laughing. I know a lot of conservatives didn't, but when I saw Talariko trying to make the claim that the Bible justifies that abortion is correct. Oh my God. That God wants abortions. Yeah. I burst out laughing. Like you're really going there. Viral and and and he stands by it. I know. My gosh. We are red eye radio. We are red eye radio. He's her. Cronin. I'm gerry McNamara. So I can actually say that I think the Democrats are trying harder to lose in November than Republicans are. But I mean, seriously, the whole the whole Talariko thing against Jasmine Crocket when he came out and I don't even know how they got to that point. But the fact that he even delved into that area, it's like, don't go there. Yeah. If I'm a political consultant, I'm going to tell the Democrat you're you're running in the state of Texas. Yeah. Do not try to make something up that the Bible endorses abortion. Don't try it. No. No. Don't try that lie. If you're going to lie, lie about something else, which is why I could never be a political consultant because I don't know if I can tell someone, you need to lie better. Yeah. Here's a here's a better lie. I recommend a better lie. I don't think morally I could do that. I just can say you need to lie. Look, could you lie about this better for goshakes? Well, I can't start anything that's on that kind of foundation. Well, lack of foundation, you know what I mean? If it starts if it starts with a lie, I can't honestly say and that will work for you. Well, but abortion is really not the issue anymore. No, you know, it isn't we looked at what they said. Remember in the 2024 election, well, abortion's still going to be the biggest issue for women out there. And the biggest women's issue was what the radical transgender move. Yep. Yep. And and so that but this shows you how radical they are where their mind set is. Their mindset is not the actual problems that people face. It's their far left radicalism. Yeah, it is to the point of how can I justify this? Okay, I'm going to try to justify that the Bible and God endorse abortion. Yeah, really now. Yeah, okay. Wow. This is Red Eye Radio on Westwood One. The Dan Bangeino Show. Dan, I missed you all. I've got so much content bottled up my head. I got a lot of stuff. This is the kind of stuff. It's real. May not have you this anywhere else. Hard truths. There's a lot of stuff to talk about that. 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