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Yeah, I appreciate that there are other districts that have a chance to be represented by Republicans. Exactly. Yes, existentially threatened right now is the concept of Virginians being properly represented in the House of Representatives. As you know with the gerrymandering scheme that Democrats and Abigail Spanberger are trying to cram down the old Dominion's throat. Joining us right now representing the Republican Party of Virginia and joining the effort to try to get out the vote on this one is John Reed. John, good morning. Always good to talk with you. Good morning. I'm in Virginia Beach this morning and I'm gonna be in Williamsburg a little later and then in Giles County at the end of the week. I mean, I'm really trying to barnstorm everywhere to move these Republican votes. Yeah, a lot of people who live normal lives unlike us don't know about this referendum. Amazing. Every day. Wake up. Yeah, right. Well, or or if they do know anything about it, they know because Barack Obama has been on their television telling you that things have been unfair up until now. And finally, Virginia is bringing things back to fairness. But I gotta ask you, John, most Virginians should remember a constitutional fight a couple of decades ago over this where the voters overwhelmingly said enough, get the politics out of redistricting and give this to a bipartisan commission. So the hypocrisy involved in doing this and trying to amend the constitution again, that's gotta bother people. They've got to recognize where this is coming from. I would hope. Yeah, there's several stories, I think that move the undecided into the vote. No camp. And when you remind people that Virginia did what should be a model for the entire country by saying we're gonna take this power away from the politicians and try to make something that is political as fair as possible. That does it when I tell the story about the speaker of the house who was a Republican in 2013, Bill Howe, who single handedly said, Hey, Republicans, this is not the way to win. We're not going to take advantage of a momentary absence by Democrats to try to redistrict against Democrats. Republicans upheld some sort of integrity and said, let's win the old fashioned way by winning over the people with good ideas. That moves people. I mean, it shows that Republicans in the past in Virginia have stood up for the values that we're now advocating. And when you show the hypocrisy of Barack Obama, who was very much against Gary Mandarin, the hypocrisy of Abigail Spanberger, who just a few weeks months ago when she was a candidate was saying she had no interest in this, then that really angers people too. John, first, as a Virginian, I just want to thank you for being out there and doing the hard work of trying to raise awareness about this and get people get people engaged. You know, I think one of the things that's also just so alarming is the really misleading language that's going to be on the ballots. Do you feel like there's like an education gap that you need to overcome to make sure people know even how to vote on this because it's it's been such a misleading presentation of the issue? Yeah, I mean, this is one of the things that makes me really angry with the Democrats in Virginia. I don't mind being in a fight. You know, if you're in politics, it's always the battle of ideas and it gets kind of rough. But when you deliberately rig the situation and you write language, which is not neutral and you don't offer both perspectives on the ballot, but you lead people to make a decision that they may not want to make. You're doing that very deliberately like trying to get somebody to sign a used car contract that has some sort of outrageous balloon payments in it or for finance charge. I mean, this is not right. And I think people once they go, wait a minute, I thought that voting yes made things more fair. And then they realized that voting yes is actually taking five of the districts and anchoring them in Fairfax County. The reaction I've had once you get to explain that to people is that they really resented. And I think that's why Abigail Spanberger was booed at the opening of the new baseball park in Richmond. Yeah, we played that audio a little earlier. It was really something to see in deep blue Richmond. I do think to be fair, John Reed, her staff was applauding. I did hear that in the background. They want to keep that job by best. John Reed's our guest and we're trying to raise awareness and get the vote out here. No, vote no two weeks from yesterday. Vote no on this referendum, this gerrymandering scheme. John, last time you were on, I gave you a bit of a rough time in terms of the influx of cash that we're seeing over on the other side. And what appears to be a lack of financial support from national organizations because this is an existential threat to the Republicans' chances in the House. I have to say, we've seen a bit of a reversal. We had a $5 million infusion from an unknown source. It's one of the Superpacks last week. And yesterday it was reported another $9 million. It seems like a few fires have been lit. You tell me, what's it looking like now? Yeah, I think money is coming in. The people in DC are seeing motivation from the grassroots. They're seeing the work that people are putting in. Former elected officials are getting out and talking to groups all over the state, which is terrific. And you and I both know, Larry, because I was so happy that you did what you did the last time I was on. You didn't give me a hard time. But so many of the people in DC listened to your program in the morning. So I was glad that you kind of turned up the heat because there's a lot on the line, not just for Virginians, but for national Republicans and for the future of the Trump administration. John, it goes without saying, if the president, if the White House wants to avoid two years of impeachment hearings and investigations, then they need to defeat this in Virginia. November will not matter, Kerry. Nothing will matter in November. If they lose Virginia two weeks from yesterday, it is over. Lawyer up, get ready for impeachment hearings. This is a remarkable moment to test Republicans in Virginia and across the country. And sometimes what happens in other states really does have a tremendous impact on you. And I'm hoping that once we defeat this, this will be a wake up call for people all across the country that we've got to come up with some sense of normalcy going forward instead of the constant battles. John, thank you so much again for doing this. Where are you heading next? Well, I've been Williamsburg today, and then I've got Giles County for the Stafford Morris dinner. So that's about a five hour drive. And I am enjoying getting back out into parts of the state that a lot of politicians and a lot of political people from Richmond and DC ignore, you know, folks in Southwest Virginia feel completely dumped on. Yes. And well, because they are an insult to them. Yeah, it is. This process is an insult to them. So I'm excited about talking to folks over the next two weeks out to the Hastings. As they say, you're being that we need to way overperform in all of those areas. And then we do need to get I'm listening North Virginia, you know, it's it's it's vote rich. There's a lot of people here. And we need to start converting some of the people with a basic sense of fairness here who are not radical partisans. And to that end, if you're looking for no offense, John, because you're a big name, but you're not as big as this one in Rockingham County, there's going to be a a rally on Saturday, April 11. We're talking Speaker Mike Johnson, Glenn Yonkin, Jason Miarez, and Ben Klein all coming out there for a rally on April 11. That's a big one. It's gonna and I love to see that the speaker is engaged in this too, because he knows how important this is. Yeah, everybody is waking up and we're going to work really hard for the next two weeks. And I think we may just pull this thing off. It might be through it might eat through what and what a stunning, stunning repudiation to Abigail Spanberger, the Democrats in Virginia, and frankly, completely stop the momentum that national Democrats want going into November. This could be a huge thing. And I'm glad that national Republican money givers are starting to catch on to John Reed, keep up the great work. 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