Jim Cornette Experience

Episode 627: Gravy On My Plate

143 min
Apr 1, 202618 days ago
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Summary

Jim Cornette critiques AEW Dynamite and WWE SmackDown, expressing frustration with repetitive booking, celebrity appearances (Jelly Roll), and unsafe in-ring incidents. He discusses wrestling territory history, ticket sales trends at AEW's Wembley Stadium events, and praises Randy Orton's heel work while condemning Kenny Omega's promos and overall creative direction.

Insights
  • Celebrity integration works only when kept simple, limited, and purposeful—overexposure (Jelly Roll appearing in every segment) creates audience fatigue rather than investment
  • Repetitive match structures and angles across weekly shows (unsanctioned matches, pull-aparts, backstage brawls) dilute impact and viewer engagement compared to territory-era variety
  • Declining first-day ticket sales at recurring stadium events (60K→33K→20K at AEW Wembley) indicate novelty fatigue and suggest vanity projects prioritize spectacle over sustainable business logic
  • Modern wrestling's inability to differentiate heel/face dynamics leaves audiences preferring performers based on work quality rather than traditional alignment, complicating narrative clarity
  • Referee training and match stoppage protocols for concussions remain inadequate; better procedures exist (count-outs, apron positioning) that protect talent without breaking match flow
Trends
Celebrity crossover saturation in wrestling reducing differentiation and fan investment in actual roster talentDeclining attendance momentum at recurring stadium events suggesting event-driven booking models are unsustainableIncreased in-ring injuries and concussions requiring systemic changes to referee protocols and match safety standardsAudience preference for performer work quality over traditional heel/face alignment in modern wrestlingRepetitive weekly angle structures (pull-aparts, backstage brawls, unsanctioned matches) becoming formulaic across major promotionsMeasurement methodology changes in wrestling viewership data creating credibility gaps and inconsistent competitive benchmarkingTerritory-era booking principles (novelty, local promotion, varied angles) proving more effective than modern repetitive formatsBloated rosters and executive decision-making prioritizing star power over creative coherence and long-term storytelling
Topics
In-Ring Safety Protocols and Concussion ManagementCelebrity Integration in Professional WrestlingStadium Event Economics and Ticket Sales TrendsHeel/Face Dynamics in Modern Wrestling AudiencesWeekly Television Booking Repetition and Audience FatigueTerritory-Era Wrestling vs. Modern Promotion ModelsReferee Training and Match Stoppage ProceduresRoster Size and Creative Decision-MakingViewership Measurement Methodology and Data CredibilityMerchandise and Action Figure LicensingWrestling Promo Delivery and Character WorkPay-Per-View Main Event ConstructionHeel Stable Booking and Tag Team DynamicsCelebrity Crossover Booking StrategyWrestling Injury Liability and Performer Protection
Companies
AEW (All Elite Wrestling)
Primary focus of criticism regarding repetitive booking, declining Wembley Stadium ticket sales, and overuse of celeb...
WWE
Analyzed for SmackDown episode quality, Jelly Roll overexposure, Randy Orton heel work, and WrestleMania main event c...
TNA (Impact Wrestling)
Discussed regarding Mike Santana vs. Corey Macklin incident involving unsafe super kick and referee response protocols
OVW (Ohio Valley Wrestling)
Referenced for historical territory booking examples and recent referee concussion protocol incident
Smoky Mountain Wrestling
Cited as example of successful territory-era spot show business model generating $6,000 revenue in small towns
Memphis Wrestling
Historical territory example used to illustrate effective spot show booking and talent utilization strategies
Nielsen
Criticized for repeated changes to wrestling viewership measurement methodology, creating data credibility issues
People
Jim Cornette
Primary host providing critical analysis of AEW and WWE programming, territory history, and modern wrestling booking
Brian Last
Co-host engaging in discussion and providing counterarguments to Cornette's wrestling analysis and critiques
Tony Khan
Criticized for vanity-driven stadium booking decisions, bloated roster management, and overreliance on celebrity appe...
Kenny Omega
Criticized for incoherent promo delivery, slow match pacing, and lack of intimidating verbal presence despite EVP status
MJF
Praised as capable of pulling strong matches; positioned as potential WrestleMania-caliber main event talent against ...
Swerve Strickland
Discussed as rising talent whose momentum was halted by loss to Kenny Omega without significant storyline advancement
Jelly Roll
Primary target of criticism for overexposure across SmackDown programming, appearing in multiple segments and matches
Randy Orton
Praised for subtle heel work, character consistency, and effective promo delivery in WrestleMania program against Cod...
Cody Rhodes
Positioned as WrestleMania main event babyface against Randy Orton; discussed as coherent booking despite audience dy...
Mike Santana
Involved in controversial super kick incident with Corey Macklin that resulted in unsafe match stoppage and referee p...
Jacob Fatu
Discussed as solid performer in program with Drew McIntyre; criticized for speech pattern leading to audience 'what' ...
Drew McIntyre
Positioned in unsanctioned match program with Jacob Fatu; criticized as repetitive weekly angle structure
Sami Zayn
Discussed as conflicted character winning US Championship match against Carmelo Hayes with logical WrestleMania booking
Matt Cardona
Criticized by Cornette for past disparaging comments about action figures; positioned as jobber to Randy Orton
Nick Aldis
Portrayed as authority figure making WrestleMania match decisions and managing talent medical clearances
Dennis Condrey
Mentioned for GoFundMe campaign raising nearly $50,000 for wife Teresa; Cornette expresses gratitude for community su...
Jerry Lawler
Referenced in territory-era discussion regarding selective spot show appearances and scheduling preferences
Owen Hart
Historical reference regarding dangerous piledriver incident with Steve Austin that caused legitimate neck injury
Steve Austin
Referenced regarding Owen Hart piledriver injury and credited with popularizing 'what' chant that now distracts moder...
Quotes
"Their gravy has gone all over my plate. And I'm just... They must be gone. I'm putting them in a cornfield."
Jim CornetteOpening segment
"Life is too short for me to sit here and watch these same people do the same fucking things every goddamn week in the same fucking kind of matches with the same fucking kind of people."
Jim CornetteAEW Dynamite critique
"You have the stadium that needs a match, not a match that needs a stadium."
Jim CornetteAEW Wembley Stadium discussion
"If you're sick and tired of going down the Hershey Highway, when it comes to your drawers, your pants, your jeans, just like Tony getting too big for his britches, he needs the perfect gene."
Jim CornetteThe Perfect Jean ad read
"I would rather listen to a fifth grade science teacher give a lecture on the biology of fungus than listen to this motherfucker speak."
Jim CornetteKenny Omega promo critique
Full Transcript
["Racket Dance of Mind Control"] Like the midnight and the rock and roll He's in a fight for wrestling soul Using a racket and some mind control Like he's Jim Cogniz The keys to the future held by the past And with tag team partner Brian Last He sends this message out by podcast He's Jim Cogniz Well, he's never fake a phony He never backs down from a fight He never wins the pony Because his mama raised him right Oh, it's time to prepare Your mind Get the experience Get the experience Get the experience Jim Cogniz Hello again, everybody, and welcome to another Thrill-Packed episode of the Jim Cogniz Experience Today, our best show ever Because I have almost no idea what I'm gonna fucking say And joining me for all this and more Oh, I and Brian, the podcasting lion, the king of the Arcadian Vanguard Podcast Network Mr. Co-host to you He built a better mousetrap But they made a smarter mouse Be great, Brian Last, everybody Hello, hi, Jim, a pleasure to be here My keyboard reset, I have to get my... What do you... I was about to say, where's the goddamn... Oh, hi. Oh, here we go. Hello, hi. Hi. Hello, hi, Jim, a pleasure to be here once again. You don't know what we're gonna talk about. Imagine the position I'm in. Well, I realize what I've done there, and ladies and gentlemen, I apologize already here right off the bat at the top of the program for bringing your organ back to life. It was just so unexpected not to hear it. I was hoping you were gonna have some sad news, but apparently it's... It's just, it's fine. So I apologize to the people for that. I don't think that needs an apology. That doesn't seem nice. You know, I just sometimes you just don't know what to say about things going on in the world, Brian. I am... I'm gonna tell you what, today on the program, there's a few people and or entities, probably several of them. I will talk about a few today. Their gravy has gone all over my plate. And I'm just... I must just... They must be gone. I'm putting them in a cornfield. I don't know the expression. Is that a popular expression? Their gravy has gone all over my plate? Don't take a lot of his gravy to go all over my plate, is a way of saying that's an annoying motherfucker. That is one annoying son of a bitch. But anyway, before I wanna talk to people that I like, before I start talking about people I don't like, I wanna thank everybody on behalf of Dennis Condry's wife, Teresa, and just everybody that's loved Dennis, because the GoFundMe that we've been talking about is up almost 50 grand as I'm sitting here now, hopefully it's over that by the time that we finish, but I wanted to thank everybody for that. And on Teresa's behalf, who she's, you know, obviously been trying to deal with various things, but she's got some people trying to help make that easier. So anyway, you know, Brian, my new year's, one of my new year's wishes. I don't make resolutions, I make wishes. I like, it's like a notepad I had one time. I got from a gift shop. It was, on the top of it was engraved things I foolishly hope to accomplish today. And one of my new year's wishes was to work half as much for twice as much, but I son of a bitch, I think I got it turned around. I don't know what to say, but we're gonna have a fun time here today telling people how stupid they are. Yeah. And what, what were you, are you gonna speak on my show? Sorry. Uh-oh. I'm sorry, sir. Well, go ahead out with it then, young, young fellow. Yeah, we're gonna tell all sorts of fucking people what we think of them today. That's what I was gonna say. Yeah. Fuck you, whoever you are. Here again, somebody else that I like is Aaron from Hope, Indiana. Aaron wrote to me and you, dear Jim and Brian, my name is not Pismo, but I did recently have hernia repair surgery. I was off work for two weeks of recovery and rest and took advantage of that time to catch up on the gym cornet omnibus cannon. I didn't know we, we shoot it out of a cannon now. I thought it was just available for download. You know, it's one, it's the cannon with one in. So I'm not illiterate. Thank you both for the entertainment, wrestling, knowledge, laughs, the tickling of the organ ivory and the updates on the current happenings in the greater Louisville area, your friend Aaron from Hope, Indiana, because Brian, Brian, Hope, Indiana is an old OVW town. We did a, was it a five or a $6,000 spot show in Hope, Indiana one time? Can you Google Hope, Indiana? Hope, Indiana is not a small loc, I've just said the name of the town and the state more times than there are people in Hope, Indiana. It's not a big town. I'm sure that now these tickets, Brian, that I'm talking about were $8 and $6. The population as of 2020, 2,099 people. Well, in 19, no, in 2000 or 2001, 750 or so of them were at the wrestling matches in Hope, Indiana. See, you gotta be mainstream, Brian. You gotta appeal to people of all ages, young, ladies and gentlemen and children of all ages. That's who your audience is. How did you guys get hooked up with doing a show in Hope? Probably something to do with RIP Rogers, everybody that's ever sponsored a fucking wrestling show in the state of Indiana, but it was like the fire department or the local school group that wanted to raise money for uniforms or whatever, it was a spot show. And we've talked about this before, it's been a while, so we'll just do it again. More babies have been born. The territory days, especially the southern territories, had massive success with spot shows. They weren't regular house shows like Louisville or Lexington that ran on a regular basis. They were just, you'd go to Oceola, Arkansas, or Kennett, Missouri, or fucking Adamsville, Tennessee, or wherever, and they were like, and if the local sponsoring group really got behind it, you could do tremendous business because everybody in these little towns, Smoky Mountain Wrestling did $6,000 in Saltville, Virginia one time at the baseball or the high school football field. It was like a thousand fucking people. Because what else is there to do in Saltville? And here's people from TV. I've mentioned Christine Jarrett in 1981 did a $12,000 house in Huntingburg, Indiana. Look up Huntingburg, Indiana, and then I'll tell you how this breaks down, but there were literally over 2,000 people in their fucking high school gym, which are all big in Indiana because of basketball. And whoever it was, whether it was the JC's or the band boosters or the football team or the police or fire department, they're wanting to raise money. If they provide the venue, the building, and they do the local promotion, they put up posters and they make announcements at the schools and all the other functions and they let everybody in town know the fucking thing is happening, then we will plug it on television and bring you a wrestling show, and you get 20% of the gate or 25% depending on the fucking arrangement. And you can keep all the food and drinks, so of course somebody contributes to the local group, the fucking hot dogs and hot dog buns, they get the cokes from whatever, and we sell the pictures of the wrestlers. And the territory you could make literally thousands of dollars in these towns because there was no, almost no out of pocket expense besides the goddamn, the guys minimum guarantee and a couple hundred bucks for the ring crew, so Huntingburg, Indiana. Huntingburg, Indiana, what year did you say the show was? 1981. Okay, so from the 1980 census, the population was 5,376. Okay, we had 2,000 of them and they spent over $1,000 at the souvenir stand, the merchandise table, when the little color, three and a half by five color pictures were a dollar a piece. So what's the thought coming out of that? Is it always, this spot show did great. You know, we'll see you next time. If there is a next time, does anyone think we should run here again or is it, this is a one time thing because of the population and how much they spent on this night? All of those things, at various points. No, some people then, sometimes it's, oh shit, we gotta go there more often. And the next time it's like, instead of the first time ever, it's the first time since June. And sometimes they realize, no, this is great. We'll do maybe once a year, we'll look to, that type of thing and be conservative because they're looking for the long haul and everything in between. But again, it was the only time that these people ever got a chance to see in person, someone that they saw on television. And it was a, when the fabulous ones went to Booneville, Mississippi, I said this the other week, I think it was like, the stars of Miami Vice coming to Booneville, Mississippi. I think what was the name they've got? And look up Booneville, Mississippi now, there's no E on Boone. Okay, for me? Hold on a second. No, look, is there a Northeast community college in Booneville, Mississippi? You said there's no E? I don't think there's an E. Because there's a Booneville with an E. Well, then maybe there is. Booneville, Mississippi in 1980, the population was 6,199 people. Yeah, but is there a North community college? Booneville community, whatever the point is, I remember doing a fucking 14 or $15,000 spot show off the Memphis TV in Booneville, fucking Mississippi when I first, in 1982 actually, when I first got into business. And at those pride, those were the, I think they were doing $6 ringside then. So $6 and $5, and it was like 14 grand. Jim, the school may have been Northeast Mississippi Community College. There you go. And there'd be 2,500 fucking people in the goddamn place. It was, that was, you know, what you did on your off nights when you had, if you had three or four weekly towns, the other two or three nights the week, you did your spot shows. Have you ever seen a spot show town become a regular town? Well, again, it depends because in what era, when Jared first split off from Gulas and had not taken the entire territory, Jonesboro, Arkansas was a regular Saturday night town because they needed one. But then when he did take the whole territory and they were running Nashville on Saturday, Jonesboro ended up like once a month. And it can also go in reverse sometimes that in the territory days, they might have started running monthly and then decided to run every two weeks or whatever. You know, so it could go both ways with unreasonable parameters, but it only, I mean, you know, if you were gonna run any of these towns on a regular basis, it was because you had no other towns to run on a regular basis. It was nice to dip in and you could, because it all depended on the local promotion and the novelty and the stars coming to town. You've seen them from the Mid-South Coliseum and now here they are in the American Legion Arena and fucking Dickman, Tennessee or whatever. So if you look at something like 1982, for instance, because you started as a photographer ended as a manager, the average amount of spot shows or the amount of spot shows that were in that year from Memphis, what percentage of those shows would actually get the fabulous ones or Jerry Lawler? Well, Lawler was even different than the Fabs. When the Fabs were hot, they were still working a full schedule. Lawler at various points was either working out in different territories when he was going to Florida, when he was going to work with the Vern or whatever the case or he just did what a goddamn, I was like my angle where I managed Adrian Street against Bill Dundee, we were the main event in Nashville like six Saturday nights in a row because Lawler'd rather go to Jonesboro or the spot show at 90 miles from Memphis and be home by midnight. He wouldn't go all the way back to fucking Nashville and blah, blah, blah. So Lawler picked and chose, but for the most part, except when they were running two nights or two shows a night, which happened when they got overpopulated in 83, you pretty much got the whole card unless it was again on Friday night, they'd split it up. But it would be somewhere in the neighborhood of Memphis so because everybody had to do Memphis TV the next morning. But that would be using part-time guys on the Memphis end to fill out the first couple of matches. They didn't keep more than 18 guys, a couple of managers when Jared was booking because he was more fiscally conscious than the king was who had 40 guys and six fucking managers of referees. Spot show. What was the question? We were just talking about spot shows. Well, good. You know what I've worn on a lot of spot shows in my life? Clothes, Brian, I've worn clothing and there used to be many complaints about my clothing, not the lack of it, but the quality of it and the fucking sight of it. But now you can get in my pants, Brian. Or anybody out there can get in my pants. They can walk a mile of my shoes. They can see the world through my eyes. What more similes can I form, ladies and gentlemen? Then to tell you that this Saturday, April 4th at noon Eastern, the big sale commences where I've cleaned up my closet and I have gathered up all my whack and rackets and everything that I've got left, that is. Some of these things have gone by the wayside. I remember there's a pair of pants one time with skid marks but nevertheless, that's when you can go to jimcorned.com Saturday, April 4th, it is at noon Eastern and you can start buying all of my ring worn and ring used apparel and furnishings that have been on the website for everybody to look at for the past week or so or two, whatever. And all the information is there if you'd like to go early and then the sale begins to scope out what you want. I get it. I'm giving the people an opportunity to take a leisurely stroll through what they might want so when the sale begins, boom, they can go straight to it. Without further ado, I'm a charitable kind of guy, Brian. I like to give people a fair chance at everything. What percentage of the people that collect ring worn stuff do you think try the stuff on? You know, I had one guy fucking actually email and said, well, you don't have the sizes listed. I'm like, motherfucker, if you buy an Elton John's goddamn stage jacket, are you wanting to wear it to a cocktail party? What is happening here? If you're, I have been a number of sizes. I think you're aware of this, Brian. I've been a number of sizes throughout my life. So some of this stuff is on the bigger side and some of this stuff is on a smaller side but it's all within, I'm the same height. I haven't changed that. I'm six feet even. And the weight range for these pieces of clothing and apparel before I've trimmed down over the last five years or however long it's been, I would say would have been between 220 and 250 or so, maybe 60. But otherwise, I'm leaving it up to you because whether you can fit in it or not. And I don't have T-Rex arms, so it's a normal goddamn shirt. I don't know what, say about these things. And when you see some fans dressed in gyms, WrestleMania 10 tuxedo, make sure you just take a picture and send it into us. No, it'll be a fake because that one's still on the wall. I'm not trying to false advertise here. You're not getting a shot at that. Over my dead body, which actually I've already tagged a few things for, you know, when the day comes so that Stace knows where to go to get rid of this shit. Anyhow, so that's this, but speaking of speaking, I don't know what to speak about this. Somebody else got knocked the fuck out. Should I have cursed that earlier? Do we really give a shit at this point, Brian? How early I'm saying fuckity, fuckity, McFuck fuck right now. Well, there's always editing. It's preferable that you don't do that, but there's always beeps and blips and all sorts of things. Beeps and blips and what is this tune playing? Fuck McShit, fuck, fuck, McShit, fuck, fuck, McShit, fuck. It sounds like an Irish tune. Well, good, then we can all do a jig. So back to the jig that apparently Mike Santana did on top of Corey Macklin's head or what's his name? It's not that. It's not that, Steve Macklin. Steve Macklin, I'm sorry. Well, rest in peace, Corey. No, that's not a joke, cause Corey passed away, but at least Steve is still around from what we understand, but some way or another, it was the main event of the TNA pay-per-view and Santana's the TNA champion and he's wrestling Corey Macklin. Damn it now. He's wrestling Mr. Macklin in a big grudge match and they go like two minutes and he's super kicked Macklin in the head and just knocked him out. And they had to call it off and before we go into the mechanics of it and or what, you know, we might have done or might not have done in all of these situations, but I started trying to think with taking, I'm just thinking of pay-per-views of places I've been. Where's WCW, WWF? Obviously take out Mick Foley and Mankind and the Undertaker hell in a cell cause nobody should ever try to do any of that shit ever again. And there was obviously the famous incident where Owen dropped Austin for real with the piledriver and he got the stinger and the neck injury and that was doing kind of a dangerous move, but not just, I'm trying to remember when I saw the last person I saw just get knocked the fuck out by just a blow or a strike or a thing of this nature. And then it's happening constantly. And this thing, I looked at the tape of it and it didn't look fake, it didn't look phony. You know, it was not like some of them, but by the same token, the only reason that you would have looked twice at it or just continued watching the match flow is cause the guy went down and didn't get up. It didn't look any, he just potatoed him. He just kicked him right the fucking head, I guess. But that's the thing is I've said before, sometimes these things don't look that all inspiring unless they've come off the top through some furniture and then they're carried off. But sometimes you can just knock somebody the fuck out, but I've never seen it happen this often, have you? I mean, saying knocked out, I guess that encapsulates a lot of things. We've seen a lot of weird injuries, a lot of, I mean, in AEW, I think we've seen a few different occasions where someone was knocked cold in the middle of the ring, the one that sticks out. OVW here. The referee in OVW. A couple of weeks ago. Yeah, I mean, we've seen matches just end, you know, by referee's decision, which in some ways is what would happen in the legitimate world, but still it's a new thing for wrestling and, you know. And that's the thing is they, and the way they handled this thing, again, they aired on the other side of way too much. And before somebody says, coordinates in favor of brain damage, no, if they just think about things logically. It went on still too long before the guy got legitimate attention because he super kicks Macklin. Macklin goes down, right? And they're going to continue the match, but the referee stepped in and was still trying to send the word while giving him a second and giving the X thing in front of him. Like she's still blocking Santana off and you see what she was doing. Yeah, she was like both holding him and kind of stopping him and also putting up the X at the same moment. And giving the, yeah, so, but at that point, there's different kinds of things. Like if you go down in the middle of the ring and it's your knee or your ankle, or you just realize, you know, I ain't getting up. You could just lay there and say, cover me, count it. And in three seconds, it's over and everybody can attend to you. And you haven't, you know, it may not have been what you plan to do, but you ain't gonna get up anyway. So why not remember Mercedes? Moon did that in Japan for another girl here a couple years ago when she fucked herself up. So you can do that. Or if you have the breath knocked out of you, like power slave, whom? You know, you falling as a kid knocked the breath out of you. I'll be okay to think about it. I need to fucking breathe. Then there's always been a way to grab a hold or whatever. If everybody's just thinking of what they're doing. But if a guy's knocked out, he was leaning on the bottom rope anyway. As a referee is given the X and holding him back or holding Santana back and a blah, blah, blah. Just roll out on the apron. If he just rolled over, he'd have been on the apron on the other side of the rope. She can turn around and back Santana. Say he's fucked up. She can go back and check him and start counting. And at the same time, that's where you determine is this because because he was not unconscious. Limp, he was apparently disoriented. So there's where you have to make the determination. Are you getting up or do we need to stop this? And also if the doctor is at ringside, he could come over and check him at the same time. She could even back Santana up saying keep the camera off of it. But within the next 10 seconds, you have not stopped the match. But you have given everybody. You've nobody's touching the guy. You're giving the doctor the opportunity to come up. You're keeping the other guy back and you're still counting the guy out because he's on the apron outside the ropes. Within 10 to 15 seconds. Everybody's where they're supposed to be. And then if the guy says, whoo, shit, I'm fine. Let's go. He beat the count. And if he's still thinking, are you bugs, bunny? Then stop it. And he's counted out. Santana was the champion. The belt was not in jeopardy. Nothing would have been harmed. If the guy was supposed to win. Well, I guess the fucking champion shouldn't have kicked him in the fucking face and knocked him out. But I mean, does that sound unreasonable rather than what they did? Brian, which was once she backed Santana up, Santana goes there. Said he's he's mad, obviously, but they're all conferring for ages. While apparently the match is still going on, we don't know. And by the time that everybody had got to him, it was more time elapsed than that to begin with. And then it just it's obvious it ends in a popcorn fart. It's awkward where they said Edward's out and I didn't see all the rest of that shit, but whatever the fuck. If in the UFC, if the guy gets fucking punched and knocked down, does the referee check him? Yes. But does the referee tell the opponent, wait a minute, you hit him too hard, give him a minute. So in the UFC, they can't roll out of the octagon and take a count on the apron while you assess situation. Does all of this chain of events that I'm saying sound more reasonable than just stopping everything and still not helping the guy any quicker? I don't know if he was. I don't know if he was. Again, I haven't been severely concussed like that in a wrestling match. I don't know if he was clear minded enough to get himself on the apron or stay on the apron or, you know, that get laid down. I was bleeding on the bottom rope laid down, but he kept trying to get up. It wasn't like he stayed down. That's what I'm saying. He was in a state. It seemed like where he wasn't trying to get up because he was still conscious. He just didn't know whether he was on Neptune or not. He was thinking he was supposed to get up and do more shit, which he was, but he wasn't in condition to. So that's when the referee is tell us stay down, push you out. Boom. Lay there. Everybody here, doctor, backing this guy up, starting to count. Everybody mobilize here. I'm just saying to just keep everything in the right place. You get the guy help quicker. If you if they can determine if he can't tell him what time it is and what his mother's maiden name is in the next referee's 10 count and let the doctor stop it. Nobody's touching him, but don't just goddamn everybody's. Oh, shit, we actually fucking hit somebody. See, that's why I'm OK. I almost wish they had right away once they realized something was wrong called the match right away. Referee stoppage. He can't continue. Well, you can do that because then whenever he's better, you could bring it back and you have a natural storyline now. You know, it was a freak thing. They got me in the first minute of the match. I'm not going to let that happen again, whatever it is. That's that's what I'm saying. But the on the benefit of the doubt, there are times when a guy will get rocked and boom, OK, I'm and he really is good. And, you know, that's the old days of grab a hold, right? And then there would be a. Period of rest where, you know, and I'm not talking about like some goddamn submission hold of that. Let's get a wrist lock here and you OK, Fred? Are you bugs, buddy? You're not OK. We're going to go home and we roll up, boom out. Or the guy says, yeah, Jesus Christ, I'm going to get you back, you motherfucker. And they keep going. But now with the. Increased awareness of concussions. No, again, you don't want to fucking get up in a small package or whatever the fuck, but at the same time. There's a way you cannot touch the fucking guy and not everybody just got to go to stop. Well, it's a fight that I won. Why are we just calling a halt to this? Count out disqualification, ref, stoppage, whatever, but don't just everybody stopping, dick around for two minutes and leave everybody hanging. That's what I don't fucking understand. Do you think it helps or hurts the referee in that situation to have people talking to them in their ear while it's happening when they're obviously trying to figure it out, too, in real time? Well, I mean, if it was Tommy Young, it'd be different. But with the average experience of the referees, it's wonderful that someone can talk to them and that's that's another thing that the I want to say the booker, but maybe the who is the commissioner? Who is the general manager? Who's running this place? Santino Morella. Oh, Jesus Christ. And that was silver guy. The fucking clown with the hat because he looks like Paul Schaefer. If Paul Schaefer was air dried. Yeah, without charisma. I was going to say that some authority figure would come at if it was if it was me and one of my stint says director of authority. I would come down to the ring with a few of the referees also because now we've got a fucking pay-per-view with flat ending. So at the same point as we're assessing this, you can communicate some shit to people and then maybe that's when because they did send Eddie Edwards out to have a big fight. But you can communicate that shit to without everybody just. Stopping and then suddenly some shit going on and. It's is that I don't know again. Why that they're that they think that they should just stop the match cold. For in a fight for a guy getting knocked out. Then it's it either needs to be over or it's not. And if it would be inconvenient to the booking or make a three minute pay-per-view, that's where you creatively. Give the guy and the referee and the fucking doctor now that they've got one ringside, 10 or 15 seconds to determine whether he ought to be getting back up or not. And you still haven't broken the goddamn match and then call it or don't. If he's can go on. Usually. Is most of these guys have been knocked out to the fuck where they can go on. But it's just I don't know what to fucking do it. You're not a question for you, but I think I'm answering into my head. As I say, it taking the OVW incident out of the equation, they're going to have to change the way they train referees. To deal with more and more situations where whether it's a concussion issue or. A broken ankle. I mean, we've seen a lot of things over the last five years that we really never saw before. They're going to change the way the referees are trained to deal with it. And remember when Shane tried the leapfrog on the big show? Was it was it WrestleMania years back and fucking just went down and fucking stayed there. It wasn't an actual match and for fortunately Snoop Dogg was there and able to save the day. But sometimes shit happens, but they went on with it. That's why I'm saying with with Owen and Austin. Austin lands on his head and he can't fucking. Move his legs or fucking feel much. And. Owen knew. That. My God, I cannot. Just leave the people seeing the new biggest star on the Ascension and the company. Laying at my feet, they'll fucking fire me. And obviously Austin still needed to win that match down deep in his heart. So Owen did the thing where he stood up and he fucking it right right to people. And he argued with the referee and he backed up over Steve's one good arm and schoolboyed himself. One, two, three, it wasn't very convincing. But at least it was. Oh, my God, Austin, the winner and then he got carried out. But. Oh, God, I'm just it. But nevertheless. You don't need to stop the thing for two fucking minutes. And just everybody just sit there with their dicks in their hands. It's a fucking fight. If the guy needs help, then somebody do something. Without fucking hurting him to goddamn end the match. And and still not. It's like they're stopping a Broadway play. It and it doesn't do anybody any good because then everybody. I didn't see a doctor. I guess the doctors at ringside, right? I didn't see him jump right over there to look at him. It took a few seconds. So. Is that if the doctors at ringside, he may have not got the fucking idea yet. So poking somebody, go do this just quickly. Just don't everybody just stand around quickly, make a decision. I beat that to death, haven't I? You have, but it's an important point that maybe people are going to have to pay more and more attention to as the years go by, because we're seeing more and more in ring injuries happen on TV than ever before. How do you kick somebody that hard and not know that you just knocked him the fuck out? I don't know. Chris Adams never did that. I don't know. But they even Michaels as as much of a dick as he probably could have been at various points, he didn't fucking rearrange anybody's teeth or anything with that. Nevertheless, all right, let's move on to more people doing ill advised things. Did you hear about the first day advance for the big Wimbly Stadium show for AEW this coming? What is it? August 30th? The the tickets went on sale, apparently to to all the sickos out there. And not bad, not bad, not bad. Nineteen thousand eight hundred and eighty three tickets on the very first day of sale, Brian, on its face. That's incredibly impressive. That's that's a man till we it was pointed out that the last time they were there in twenty twenty four, they did thirty three thousand seven hundred tickets. On the first day. And remember, it was some. God, maybe you can Google this because I don't have it on the notes. But when they did the original Wimbly. And set the old time. Mega mega Godzilla attendance record for whatever the fuck all the records they set. Is the first day was like sixty thousand or whatever. Maybe is that information publicly available? I am looking right now because I never see him. Punk was on the first show because that's when he had the Jack Perry incident right before his match with Samoa Joe, which opened up the show. But I just don't know if that was twenty three or twenty four. No, I was twenty three. It must have been twenty three. Yes, yes. So you're asking for how many tickets they sold in twenty three. What was the first day tickets sold when they announced that big wing ding, which I think they announced it a year ahead of that, didn't they? During the pre-sale on May second of twenty thirteen, a W sold over thirty six thousand tickets, garnering four point seven million in revenue, which immediately set a W records for attendance and a lot of gate. They reached over forty three thousand and five point seven million respectfully the next day. And then after sales opened to the general public three days later on May fifth, ticket sales hit sixty thousand. Now there you go with seven point seven million in revenue. Wow. OK. And again, you know, massive numbers. But the trend may be headed in the wrong direction because after the first official general public on sale, which is what these numbers are, we're talking about, first time they were at sixty thousand, the second time they were at thirty three thousand and the third time they're twenty thousand. And now he's just doing it just because he can do it. It's not even about my God, can we make any kind of money on this? It's well, it's so cool for our fans. You had me cool for your fans. Have you got them all in individual blow job? But it would be expensive. That's why it's never been offered before. It's got an expensive. Yes, we checked into it. Well, it's not too expensive. Tony, we were we were brainstorming one day. But anyway. That's what we said when we were talking about the original one, which was it's the same. It was the same concept, but on an even more massive scale with massive expenditure than the original all in, which was it was a worldwide crowd funding movement of the fans. It was the it was the pit of their frenzy. Brian, it sounds like a pole line. It was the pit of their frenzy. The A.E.W. fans with Vince was still around and that shit was just starting to hit. And they still thought that Tony was going to be the savior and all this in the riffing bullshit. Somebody telling the women, bullshit, we'll be over with. All this stuff was going to just take over the world. And they crowdfunded that thing into a Wimbledon Stadium event. It was like. The Beatles were going to get back together and Ringo was going to show us his dingaling. But now the and we said at the time, the novelty, if they try to do this every time. It's gets the the Von Erich Memorial shows all over again. They don't have a match. I mean, that's the other thing. The first one. Again, CM Punk was there. He can't underrate what a big story was for A.E.W. But there was a demand from fans in England to see wrestling at Wimbledon Stadium. It just so happened, it was A.E.W. who did it. A.E.W. had not been over there. I don't think yet. So you had the most diehard A.E.W. fans couldn't wait to see them. You had a perfect mixture of all these things. You had a bunch of drama that came out of the event. And then the next year. It wasn't as impressive. Although again, we're talking about a big stadium crowd. The problem is you have to compare it to the one before it. And then they didn't come back. They did other things. And now they're back. But what's the match? You know, they have a stadium that needs a match, not a match that needs a stadium. I remember a smart guy said that one time. I heard it from someone. You know, you have the same crowd that's been there. I mean, there's nothing. They've gone, you know what they've done, Brian? They've gone to Booneville, Mississippi three times in the same year. Because I'm and I'm not the poo poo and the idea that they've sold 20,000 tickets, but by history, they're not going to double that with actual final sales. They're not probably possibly not going to come close to doubling that by actual history of increase from the big, the big moment of explosion to the actual show. So at what point have they paid five times as much in expenses to run the stadium? To fit. Four or five thousand people in that wouldn't have fit in the O2 arena. You see where I'm going with this. Yeah. And I'm not saying they won't be able to make it look at the big moment. I remember I thought the second year looked better than the first one where they had the bigger crowd. They shot it better. So I'm sure to look great. I don't know if it's good. I don't know if it'll. I mean, they'll only shoot what they have to shoot. But still, it's again, it's the Von Erich Memorial Stadium principle. The first two looked fabulous, even in Texas Stadium, because they had a lot of fabulous, even in Texas Stadium, because there was 40,000 or whatever. And then ours was ours. It wasn't our fault that we weren't responsible. But no, but the 85 was 20 something thousand. And then then 86, 87, it was fucking. You run out of ways. I'm just saying it's. It's it's another example of a vanity project just because Tony is able to do this willy-nilly and thinks it's a cool moment. And nothing looks worse than an empty stadium. Like, even if you saw stuff in the sportatorium that wasn't full and then they went to Texas Stadium, it looks really bad when you just see seats everywhere and there's no one there. And even a few thousand people looked like no one. Maybe Tony will get 30,000 people. Will you consider that a success? That means that one third of the building was filled. Well, look at the other way. Do you think there's anything Tony could do to sell more tickets? At this point, with who he has right now. I don't know. I'll get started on that in a minute. But I'm just again. It's just because he can. It's it's not about I can't imagine what the Wimbledon Stadium rent and expenses and etc. Are that, you know, with 30,000 people, can you make money? With all of the other the payroll of his massively bloated roster, etc. It's just and. But we will. But again, we won't see the books. We'll just have to watch the what plays out in front of our eyes. And according to, again, I'm trying to see anything about this. So I don't know how accurate it is, but according to a few reports on the internet, I'm seeing here. Rent for Wembley allegedly is in the range of $400,000. Oh, but that's that's basic. That's the base. That doesn't cover additional staffing and everything else security, etc. So what's the gate going to be? What was the gate for last for the last time for 2024? Did you have that there? Are you rattling off some kind of numbers? I'm pulling it up right now. Hold on. But the point is you could probably take 650 grand off the gate just to have it in that building. Jim in 2024 they ran Wembley. 53,385 paid attendance, $6 million gate. Oh, golly. So they'll only have five million to work with. Is that $6 million or six million pounds? That's a good question. I don't know because the exchange rate could have fluctuated. Nevertheless, it's just I'll get to them. I'll get to them. I just think Tony's getting too big for his britches. Brian, that's what the problem is. You know what I mean? Are you aware of what I am meaning? I may be. Do you see that? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what I am meaning. I may be. Do you see what I am saying? I think I could possibly see the road you're going down. And of course, maybe it's the road that Tony Khan and many of the listeners need to go down as well. Well, that's right because if you're sick and tired of going down the Hershey Highway, when it comes to your drawers, your pants, your jeans, just like Tony getting too big for his britches, he needs the perfect gene is what he needs. Because that way he wouldn't have that odd look on his face all the time like he does, Brian, because his balls wouldn't be being squeezed like in a carpenter's vice. And at the same time, he wouldn't be looking like he's so constipated because he's got that awful hard canvas double sewn seam up the crack of his ass. It's tantalizing his taint and making him want to poop his panties. Well, that's one of the tough things is finding pants that make you feel stylish, but also don't crush your balls and you could bend over and do stuff in. Yes, he could bend over and Tony bends over a lot for everybody on the roster and he needs to have some movement. He needs to have some. He's constantly picking things up. They've dropped and he needs some freedom of movement in there where when you bend over the jeans, don't just cut you in half like you're decapitated like the Black Dahlia in 1946 where you just cut in half at your waistline. You don't want that out of the pants you're wearing. You have enough chances of being attacked by some random stranger on the street and mutilated by some sharp object before people cause swarms of people can come up and pull the madman off of you. So don't wear those kind of pants. No, wear the perfect Jean. Yes. Yes, where you've got movement and fluctuation in your pants. 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Them, them was the conditions that prevailed. Correct. And for once this was historic, Kenny got even because swerve when he turned heel like fucking, what a month ago or six weeks ago, whatever the fuck it was, he beat the shit out of Kenny and they carried Kenny out, right? And that's when swerve said, I'm a heel now. So Kenny actually came back and he got even, he beat the guy right in the middle of the ring with no ifs ands or asses about it. And so that's over. I don't mean to give anything away here in this, in this match, but so at least he got even, but now they beat swerve for this fucking again and we'll go into it later on when he confronts our champion, but this fucking milk sop, this hunchbacked, stringy haired, droop-eyed shell of a person who has a breathless, sexy delivery of his dramatic readings. And this is the guy that we're supposed to think is a fucking main event superstar in this goddamn company. So this wet dish rag was facing the rising rap star and most dangerous man in AEW swerve's trickling. It looks like he probably would kick the literal bejesus out of fucking Kenny Omega for these terms that he's been doing. What has Kenny been doing as an EVP Brian that increases his power or pull? How has he been throwing his weight around? How has he been developed a video game? Oh, I forgot about that like everybody else, but how has he been throwing his massive power around the company is showing it off, getting favors for himself or other people or any kind of preferential treatment or all his power at swerve once. How has that ever been established that Kenny ever had any of that? And the only time he's ever said anything about it was when he said, I don't I don't want to be an EVP. I don't want to tell people what to do. I don't I don't like responsibility or whatever the fuck. Was that not true? I have a brain tumor? No, that was that's pretty much it. I mean, the only thing you could say that shows that he's an EVP is the fact that he got Kota Bushia 30 year contract or whatever the hell's going on over there. Michael Nakazawa got a big contract and but that's not really. That's not been actually talked about on television. It's factual, but it's not a part of the story until the bucks. Did they're really awful? He'll shit where they were taking advantage of their EVP status. It was never really defined on TV. Why any of these people were called EVPs? It never and nothing was ever really done with the EVP power until they turn heel in which they showed that the EVPs actually seemingly had more power than Tony Khan because they remained on the show after they beat him up. Yes, they beat him up and put him in a neck brace where he had to go to the NFL fucking wing ding and. They were never demoted or punished in any discernible way. So point being Tony just wanted a reason for fucking. Kenny to have a match with swerve so that he could put Kenny over so that Kenny can fight him MJF next and this was the same as every other goddamn match at AEW except slower because a Kenny apparently because we know swerve likes to just go 100 miles an hour. But the first minute they were on the floor. And Aubrey Ed counted to a million while they were on the floor doing fuck all for over two minutes. And then they got in the ring and grabbed a hole. And at point swerve looked like he was trying not to hurt Kenny. But it's hard to tell with a Kenny again now that I see him again. The ridiculous movements in the facials in the body language. But it was. It was kind of he's just he just looks droopy to me. And then they did the spot where it took him almost a minute for them to climb up and foil each other and get down and climb up and then carefully gingerly balance on the top turn buckle and take a bump off that. And then they go to the break and they come back from the break their trading forearms. And then Kenny makes the weird faces again and they struggle on the apron forever. It's the same shit that he does every time. And then they went out and tried to balance on the barricade and they fell into the people in the front row. And then they got back up to try to do it again. And he swerve gave him a pile driver on the barricade. And I get again. I imagine any other promoter in the history of wrestling going you fucking idiots you fell off on the people and you got back up there's you can try have a second try breaking their leg. And they both could have been counted out five times over 10 times over. And this was 15 minutes in and it seemed like 30. And there was finger pointing and nothing happening. And then Kenny just got the one winged fairy boom hit his finish 123 and beat swerve who one would think has at least a little bit more future in the company. And they don't even do it. Kenny doesn't have to work to get the revenge. He does it. It's not a pay-per-view. It's not a goddamn program. He just comes back on TV and beats him. OK now get the title shot. There was no out for swerve. Is this the end of little Rico. I thought it was surprising that the way they've been building up swerve with the heel promos and Nana doing heel promos. It's surprising for him to lose. But I've been saying this for months that direction was MJF and Omega. And they finally got there. And I think you know maybe I think too much MJF because a lot of the listeners get mad when we say positive things. But I think MJF will be able to pull the best match out of Omega. Not that you have to pull it out of him. But you said he was a little slower here. You need pliers. You need pliers. You said he was a little slower here. It's all caught up to him. You know it's all caught up to him the style what he was doing. It all caught up to him. And you know you see it more and more every time he wrestles. But again they were building up swerve. So it's crazy that swerve took Kenny Omega at a commission. He was off TV for weeks. They have to get in the shit kicked out of him. And then he comes back does a couple of promos beat swerve. And now he gets a title shot. Well that's over. I'm not saying you couldn't have put Kenny over in some fashion. And then you would have saved a little grace for swerve to where he could come back and you know have some bitch and or get involved again or whatever the case. But I'll beat you up finish. Okay. Anyhow. Oh. Dick the boozer and Daddy Garcia and Marina Schaefer had a mixed six man woman person tag team contest with Dante and Darius Martin. Remember them Brian. Top flight. What's it. Has it been two years since we've seen them take flight old top flight every few months or so they show up and some member Layla Gray was with them and she got hurt. Well this was Zeta Steel. She whatever Chris Daniels poor Chris Daniels is in the position of having to stand there in the corner. The one Martin brother just said fuck it. I'm not the star of this team. I'm going to eat Cleveland. Did you see him. Like the brother can jump and get all the fucking attention and I'm just over here some fucking I'm a fat fuck now. Well you know on that topic and I'm not calling anyone a fat fuck here in this match. But Dante Martin who from the beginning although he sort of resembles art Garfunkel with that hair. He was kind of the breakout star of the team and when his brother got hurt we got to see him and singles action and tag with other people and then he got hurt. It's been a lot of injuries with the family. But it looks like he put on some weight too and I don't mean in a bad way. I mean he was really skinny when we first started seeing him. He doesn't look as skinny now. I think maybe they may be brothers but one's genetics seem like they're a little different. Maybe they check the milkman do the DNA ancestry test. Anyhow this was not as you would imagine a squash match for Dick the boozers new heel group that used to be a babyface group that after they were a heel group. But this was a jump start and a six way and a fight on the floor and then the biggest indie riff it mess you can imagine from the people involved in this and the reason why the Martins were back because it's their hometown. So we don't see these guys on the main show for fucking months and months and months. Oh but shit we're in fucking Martin Martin's hometown. Let's bring them and beat them on TV. What's the but maybe they were just saving the trance. I don't know what the fuck but they put Baker on TV when they were in Pittsburgh. Well some of these things you got to keep under lock and key. So the heels one and stood around for a while till Moxley got his breath and then he could have promo like he was halfway across Lake Havasoma and said that he's going to wrestle Osprey at the pay-per-view and again they're snarling and they're mean. They were heels pouring bleach down people's throats and then suddenly because they were having matches against the Don Callis family they and Moxley started doing rah-rah promos they became baby faces while doing nothing to instigate that and now the week that Osprey shows up if we fuck everybody again we're gonna fucking kill everybody. What is happening here? I can't explain it. Can you explain why they thought it would be a good idea to have spitball take on Rocky Romero in a match? Well I mean they're not far apart in size so at least it makes sense for that. You know spitball was in a smaller division it wouldn't be as offensive as when he's doing his dancing kick thing to some giant wrestler. I think it should be a Class C felony to show spitball in public where children are present. He needs to walk around in a goddamn burlap sack just cover him the fuck up. He's offensive on site. Nevertheless now we were at nine o'clock and here comes MJF and bro this is this is where the gravy started getting poured. I'm not talking about although MJF has established himself after he had the garbage championship wrestling match with Paige on the same day. He's one of them. Gobble, gobble, gobble, gobble. One of us, one of us. He's a freak. He's not serious. He's had a momentary lapse of reason. But at least he can fucking speak intelligently and project his voice like a goddamn public speaker. And he came out of the is the same MJF promo because unfortunately that's all he's got left in this fucking cesspool of inanity. But he was happy and crowing about beating, hang nail in the easiest match of his career and now Paige can never challenge for the title again and he's still a champion and double dipped his catchphrases and it wasn't too long and it got to point across. And then Kenny's music played and oh god damn it. I wrote it. This has been brief. Now it's going to go south and take forever. And that's what happened. The face off and Kenny gets the microphone and the first thing he says well excuse the way that I'm dressed or that I smell what's your excuse. Jaffee Vernon's got no goddamn fucking shutters in his coffin somewhere. We're like Rodney spinning in his grave. He thinks he's a fucking comedian with that again that voice and that goofy demeanor and that milk soppy douche baggy. Wet dish rag nerd fucking attitude and promo and voice and delivery. He's actually this was a quote. He said even at the height of my bad kindness I never called myself the god of wrestling at the height of his bad kindness Brian. Can I just say one thing here. Yes. That was one of the more coherent lines he had in this promo. I texted someone in the company right after this and I just wrote is he high because Kenny was a mess here. He couldn't deliver. You had to like struggle to understand what the fuck he was trying to say and it was all over the place and then it didn't end and then I thought it was over and it just kept going. Why is he still on the mic? And my first thought was Kenny's high. My first thought which I wrote down was I would rather listen to a fifth grade science teacher give a lecture on the biology of fungus than listen to this motherfucker speak. And the whole point was supposed to be if they M.J.F. calls himself the devil then he's the god of wrestling so why not have God beat the devil. And again as you said in the incoherent breathy babbling. That this took forever and went nowhere except to establish Kenny as a big pussy that can't make anything interesting. It's he's in no way intimidating verbally or even physically when he's standing there hunched over like he's 70 but the verbal delivery you're not you're not cowed you're not scared you're not intimidated you're not fired up you're not ready to go you're like what the fuck. It's a foot and a half away from a goddamn 70s gimmick lisp gay promo. It's just it's over the top with its. Nothingness it's like you have to go out of your way to be that obtuse you have to go out of your way to struggle to say anything coherently he doesn't just say anything in a straight line. Hold on I'm looking that up that's a good fucking word wait a minute Q.R.S.T. you people where is oh oh comes before P. Wait a minute well see there's a lot of P's I bet you didn't know that obverse. Hold on obtuse lacking quickness of perception or intellect. There you go to not sharp pointed or acute in form blunt. Well there you go word of the day everyone obtuse. Well the point is he said gosh darn twice. In his challenge. And after he'd finally gone through all this and indicated that he wanted to wrestle MJF on the pay-per-view for the title MJF said. Okay and walked out. And that took about 20 minutes the whole time that Kenny was rambling and going really slow MJF was in the corner casual he wasn't. He was barely acting like he could follow along himself and he's just staring at him how would you react to that I'm not saying I wouldn't have reacted like that but I'm saying that was the plan I mean what are you thinking was going to happen here did they think Kenny could just park the car or do they think that Kenny was going to go around the block a few times. He was just in the corner casually watching Kenny like the fans for a while. There was nothing to react to particularly but it got a little bit more difficult to react to particularly. But again you know. Then he he did his thing he's well since he's already done his catch phrases I'll do mine and I bid you a do goodbye and good night bang. What the fuck is this. Who who is sitting at home going this guy's my fucking hero. Who is Christ. What is the audience there. It's longtime wrestling fans who found a EW and they're not as young as they used to be and they kind of have a cynical view of wrestling and they like to ironically enjoy silly things and to them Kenny Omega and the matches of moves and kick outs and at least they protect his finish I'll give him that. He's like they're not the God of wrestling that's the wrong expression but you know there's our through stride. I don't know what exactly he is to them but I go try to look that up even though there's not as many Z's as there was P's but you know here is my decision of this. That's what I think of AEW after I saw that there was still about counting the overrun an hour or so to go with his program and life is too short for me to sit here and watch these same people do the same fucking things every goddamn week in the same fucking kind of matches with the same fucking kind of people. So unless somebody either does something spectacularly fantastic and newsworthy or has projectile diarrhea on their opponent in the middle of the rig on live TV just assume that everything that I've said going forward about AEW dynamite is the same every week and will save us both some time. Their gravy has gone all over my plate. So you're done with dynamite? I have it unless you and or the listeners talk me out of it for some goddamn reason and I'm not sure I'm in the mood for hearing any counter arguments. I can't I just I don't know what to think about these fucking I'll be honest my counter argument would be if something big happens you know we'll send it over to you but the show's been a bad show and I know the numbers have gone up but we could talk also about the fact that now I guess they've readjusted again now they're saying that there are more television viewers and less streaming viewers which was like the whole point of why they changed everything to begin with. And wait a minute now we're the they for the for the for the people over on the Isle of Man they is not AEW we're not saying AEW is giving us fucking gimmick numbers in this instance we're saying the other people giving us gimmick gimmick number. Nielsen has changed it again. First they everybody was going along with same old methods and then suddenly they got the big data panel on on board and everything went into fucking chaos and wrestling was sucking high and tit as they used to say and then everybody who got up in arms about that and then they said we're going to change this shit back and then they not only change it back now they changed it again and now there are more people watching wrestling and oh golly we for there's more people watching TV than we ever thought of unless people watching this streaming shit. They don't know what the fuck they're doing I don't I I'm done with the numbers too and the gravy has filled my plate it's ridiculous. Yeah I don't know how you really explain that although it's interesting if they've done a mea culpa and said that television isn't dying as rapidly as we've been telling you that's interesting too. Well but no because it's the same people if they couldn't if they were fucked up before who say they're not fucked up now they have lost all their credibility with me they are maybe with the changing the way they're counting things and then coming up with different numbers imagine that who could have ever thought that if you change the way you do shit you will come up with a different result. The fuck and these people get paid millions dollars to do this I'll tell you that you know what I could have just called goddamn Nielsen and said hey 12,000 people watched OVW last week just put that down I should have known all along. You never thought to have the channel complain to Nielsen that they have to readjust the entire way that they measure the ratings. This he that was the whole problem if I had just taken that easy and simple solution that should have been the first thing I thought of. So you quit so you quit dynamite you know next week's the week they'll do something crazy like Darby'll jump off the roof of the building or something. Well no they did that two weeks ago. I'm talking about really crazy like having a great match or as I did I mentioned the projectile diarrhea. Well this I guess is a goodbye and some friend to AEW Dynamite and they gave me the sour belches. Jim any final words to AEW Dynamite you've been talking about AEW Dynamite for a long time. It's a weird relationship you've had but if this is indeed the final time any final words. Thank you fuck you bye. We're still here ladies and gentlemen that's to AEW we're still here. You asked me if I had any final words to AEW I'll tell you what you know it was it was nipping tuck there as to whether I was going to make it through this interview. It was it was a it was a photo finish it was a close shave Brian is what it was it was a close shave. Come to think of it I would have liked to have taken the razor to Tony Kahn's neck and personally given him a nice clean shave instead of that. Thank you nappy hairy old beard that he's got now. Good save with the deluxe Harry's razor the most advanced razor that I have ever gotten that has ever been it it seemed it did I get the only pearl handled razor that they produced it was this just for me or my God. It's not it's not Pearl Brian it's just good solid American stainless steel it looks like this is a metal razor handle weighted perfectly balanced and on the end of it ladies gentlemen of the Harry's razor handle is Harry's razor blades German engineered blades those fucking German son of a bitch is over there. If you've seen any of their videos you know they're cruel and they want to hone that fucking razor down to a fine point they used to actually engage in razor honing as community fucking festivals back in Germany in Stuttgart and Monheim and Harry's now owns their own world class razor blade factory in Germany. Yeah. So there's no outsourcing and no middleman it's not like you when you go into the store Brian these days and you pay $30 for eight razor cartridges you got to have a crowbar to get it off the diagram hanger thing and boy just try to walk out with some and see what it bells and whistles go off and you get an electric shock because there's a tracking device in those things in the stores they'll follow you home. It's a whole goddamn industry now the razor police but not with Harry's because they got their own factory in Germany and they're smuggling this shit in overnight so nobody knows it's here. They're not smuggling it. 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John Davidson the Hager twins and Monty Rock the third. He just died. Well they'll bring him back he's booked. Is there is there any bigger example of by the end of the night. Jelly Roll got RKO to the people like yes finally what the he's in everything. He's wrestling he's making peace in backstage segments he's conferring with Nick Aldous he's out there in the Cody and Orton fucking angle. And I mean you know I said what I thought of him a couple of weeks ago I saw the picture of him hugging Christy Noem with a big smile on her on his face. And as far as I'm concerned I'm done with him as a fucking human being he's a garbage person because he hugged a soulless blood drinking lying ghoul in public but having said that they portrayed him to their audiences this respectful humble country boy celebrity that's gotten this opportunity. And boy he's just so respectful and humble. And it's gone from that to he's all over the show he's beating wrestlers in matches and he's in the main event angle for the world title. They are running people off of Jelly Roll and I don't think they even know it because they're so thrilled to have him involved because he's a big star. Do you see where I'm going with this? I do you know Mr. T would get physical a little bit but his whole gimmick was he was a physical guy. Jelly Roll beating up wrestlers. Not even this match but in previous segments you know just beating up the Miz or whoever. Just seems like it's placating what he wants more than and what they want more than what the fans want. WWE's in love with Jelly Roll more than any fan is. And I understand that he's getting pops and people cheer. Yay because it's the way he's presented but the problem is going to be that they while they've done a good job on presenting him personally as a sympathetic figure. This just he's in everything and he's doing all this shit. And do they think that the fans are going to be like oh look he can't do this but he's really trying. When he's everywhere or are they is there going to be a backlash is it going to be Die Rocky Die or do we go now this is ridiculous when they hit their papa moment with how much more do we have to watch this fucking guy do. Well let's just say if a top heel did something to him the fans would not have a problem with it. They'd probably pop as we may see another problem is I just forwarded you an email from WWE. This is what they said. Are they on us again Brian? This is what they sent me a few hours before Smackdown the preview but just look at when you first open it up Randy Orton's the first thing you'll see. Look at the wrestler images they use and scroll down until you get the jelly roll. Okay we got the images Cody and Randy are at the top and then Charlotte and Alexa and the Bellas. And then a group poster and oh my God. Jelly roll making a praying motion with his hands while the crosses tattooed on his face along with a variety of other. Rube Goldberg drawings and with like a puppy dog look. It's just yes it's the most ridiculous photo to use. He looks like he's a hillbilly pope trying to bless somebody. And he's going to step in a squared circle for the first time. Wait a minute. This says jelly roll will step back into the squared circle for the first time. Oh since Summer Slam. Okay. It was like back again for the very first time since Summer Slam to take on Kit Wilson. And he's above McIntyre and Fatou and Rhea Ripley and these other people. It just it. I just love the fact that he posed like this. Like someone said all right let's do some shots. We'll use this for the press. And he's like this is my pose. Hold on let me get serious. It goes with the cross tattooed on his fucking face. Anyhow so they were in Pittsburgh. For those of you keeping track. And the attendance was reported at 12,700 plus so. Everybody in Pittsburgh will file for bankruptcy next week. And last week we didn't talk about Smackdown because other things happen. But Ordon did a great promo in the written. And he's like this is the best thing ever. Smackdown because other things happen. But Ordon did a great promo in the ring. First of all Orton has been brilliant in this whole thing because he's just being Randy Orton. And he knows how to do subtle little things to change people's tempo and etc. Even though they're all still cheering him because now he's an icon and he's the cool thing to. To fight Cody. But and I understand the company doesn't care because they knew that was going to happen and they had to know it was going to fucking happen. But in this case it's Orton and it works. So anyway again not only did he do a great promo in the ring last week. But then in a backstage thing they showed some of it he called Matt Cardona a a Mark ass stooge and an indie nerd. And which we'll get to. And then he got a pep talk from Jelly is all last week that he got a phone call and then he kicked Cardona the balls and broke his arm. And there's a big who's on the phone with who do you think's on the phone with him Brian Vince. Who do you really think's on the phone Vince McMahon. If the whole thing is around what was the first thing we heard him say to someone on the phone. The whole. I don't remember. He referenced Cody saying there's more than one. What does Cody say there's more than one. More than one royal family. Yeah there's more than one royal family unless he's talking to Ted D B. Ossie Junior. I don't know who it has to be someone in a wrestling family I would presume. Right. Well OK. Here's the thing here's what I'm going to say and I'm going to say the outlier is it turns out that he's a real. He's not to be cowboy Bob his his dad because he's in a wrestling family. I think he's talking to himself I think he's talking to the voices in his fucking head. And he's convincing himself that the Orton's are a goddamn royal family too. And he's going to goddamn do something about it. We think about them apples. I like it. Let's make him King Bob Orton. No I honestly think that Randy is talking to himself in his head. That's what they're going to do. So mark that down in your little black book wherever you keep it. Maybe not Vince maybe Stephanie. No celebrate Hall of Fame weekend by turning he once again to the somebody's going to get the phone away from him and it's going to be completely dead not even turned on. And that's how he goes they like strapped into a strapped to the Hannibal Lecter thing and fucking Cardi Bop. I'm well they can get the straight jacket from the other fucking guys that used it last week. Anyway the or the Orton entrance and in ring promo was first and the fans are cheering him. They there's some things they won't cheer like if he just you know killed Cody's cat or something but they they are cheering most of the things that he does because he's fucking over and he's got a point he said Cody told me to be the best best version the best version of Randy Orton. He told me to be the Viper. He told me to listen to the voices. Well I've been I've been thinking about number 15 for years and then Cody gives me his blessing. And now that I'm listening to those voices again I'm not responsible for what happens and they cheered yes because they want to see chaos and mayhem because it's all bullshit. And then he even even said it's all your voices that are the problem. He could even turn on him he can fuck you you all suck like when they love to spend a bit of express in Philadelphia but we still hadn't turned heal officially or turn baby face officially yet. And when I one night I said you're the sorryest looking bunch of people I've ever seen in my life and he's yes yes we are. But anyway he said there's one voice that I listened to and we're about to find out. And Cardona's music interrupts and Orton is pissed and out comes Cardona and he's limping and not limping but he's selling his arm and everything with the sleeve on it. They said his arms fucked up from last week and he gets into the ring. And as the microphone it is ready just bops Orton in the in the head with his microphone and Orton rolls out on the floor and we're out. Which was kind of an odd they're going to come back to it. There's more that's going to happen but that was kind of a odd ending but at the same time you could not have Cardona come out and just beat up in some fair way Randy Orton which would be ridiculous. But still that microphone must have made a steal right the order couldn't get up. He was just sitting there watching the way he was. Yeah he was he was stunned he was you know they were going to come in and do the concussion check. So it was a loaded microphone. Possibly the only time that Cardona has ever done anything good on a microphone. Should we mention this now before we get to the match later on because he's going to come back out but this fucking Cardona. The reason why I weren't and called him the Mark S. Indy nerd whatever the fuck Cardona and some friend of his and in all fairness and honesty this is why I'm going to say this. I have never met or spoken to either one of these guys either Cardona or his cohort and he does a little podcast and they make people's action figures I guess out of their garage or whatever they're doing over there. And what was it a couple it was a couple years ago Brian because it was when I came out with the Midnight Express action figures and this fucking guy got on his podcast and said to his partner said well yeah you and me we we ought to be doing Cornette's figures and Midnight Express because the one he's got an hour the shits. This is the way that this knit with this amoeba brain moron chose to introduce himself to me by slandering the fine products that I was currently about to be selling to the goddamn cult of Cornette members and the general public and the fine consumers out there. Because he could do so much better. Overlooking the fact first of all that he's not dealing with some kind of local yokel at the fucking village Kmart I'm an international yacht broker from to line France and I deal in thousands of pieces, which is over above and beyond his meager capabilities as an amateur in the field, but also his gravy went all over my plate Brian with that one state. But fuck you. You fucking Indy Mark ass nerd. The way to do business with Jim Cornette is not to lead with yeah the stuff you got now is the shits. But we have never been officially introduced. Nobody has ever officially come up to us and said Jim Cornette meet Indy Mark ass nerd with a big fat yeah. So I believe the the remark that I made to you at that point in time was I can tell you who for the rest of goddamn eternity will not be making any Jim Cornette action figures. We know that right now that you could do on your own. You have the choice to do whatever you want whatever style of figure work with whoever you want and to be rather honest we hear from people all the time because you're a real man. You're a much requested figure in the world of figures so to speak. Everyone's because of it's because of my my new figure, but everyone's respectful. Everyone's kind. Everyone would love to do something and everyone understands the position that you're in and everyone understands that also what you did with your figures is very different than signing a wrestler to a licensing deal where you could do something with them for a limited run. You know what I would suggest that Cardona can do with his figures. He can take all them some bitches, blow them up, turn them sideways and combine them with all the dildos that Vince used to name after the boys and shove them all up his fucking ass. What do you can do with all them them things there. Anyway, continuing on with Smackdown. The Bellas had a match with Charlotte and Alexis Bliss and somewhere or another Alexa. There you go. Named after Billy Joel's daughter and then the fridge and lash those two parade floats came in and beat all four of them up and they were actually going to try to give Alexa Bliss the Vegematic. My God, I was thinking, oh, holy Christ, please don't try it. But suddenly Bailey and Lyric came in and beat up the the big girls. And what I saw of this, which wasn't much was was quite messy. That's about all I got to say about that. Because then there was some more jelly roll. He was giving pep talks to just various people in the back. I guess he's now a motivational speaker. He's he's a dear Abbey to the talent. He's just come in and made a big difference in everybody's moral outlook on things, Brian. Let's see. I mean, you're not exactly. He's all over this fucking show. Yeah, yeah. All over like gravy on my plate. Rhea Ripley was in the ring. She did a promo, but Jade Cargill and her new stooge is or Kay Fabe and Mia Yem. Remember when she had baddies, Jade did an A. W. Oh, I remember. Yeah. And now she's got she's got better baddies. But her buddies, these baddies are Kay Fabe and Mia Yem and. They interrupt. They take a break in the middle. They come back and Rhea Ripley is in a match beating up Kay Fabe. And within two minutes, they do a DQ because Jade beat Rhea up and Rhea made a comeback and then all three of them beat her up. So they just wanted to get that in there. Can they get that belt off of Jade at WrestleMania fast enough? I think I just Jesus Christ. All right. They just gave her a heel stable. Is now the time. Yes. Cause then she'll have something to fall back on. Then the moment we were all waiting for for the first time ever since fucking August jelly roll enters the ring to take on Kit Wilson and this. There's a germ of classic pro wrestling in here somewhere just enough to just enough to piss you off as Mama Cornette would say about a small portion. If you got the celebrity who could do a couple of things. You could have this match with Bobby Heenan. You could have this match with JJ Dillon. I wouldn't have wanted to have this map, but you could have the match with a referee or that's a. Heal of some description or a manager or just a really a secondary. Well, I guess this is secondary opening match fucking guy. But. A poor old kit. He's settled with this awful rotten fucking gimmick that's as bad as the male model thing they try to do. At least he's trying to go with it. Of course, he's going to have to completely change his name and the way he looks grow a beard. Possibly have transgender surgery, anything to get away from this. If he ever wants to have a career in a wrestling business, but. He worked his ass off here. Because. If they would have a match with the celebrity. With things that are kind of easy to teach. Jella, Kit Wilson had to feed for everything here and still jelly roll. He's not a natural. You can tell he's a regular guy. That's had some lessons. And Kit was bouncing off of him and feeding for him to do his things. But still it's it's gratuitous to jelly roll and this fantasy camp experience that he's having. That he needs to do the catch into the power slam off the top. Or the fun the moves that. Yes, punch. Yes, kick. Yes, body slam. But did he not it got completely off the pale here, Brian? And in your opinion, did you see that when he's doing. He's standing there flat footed like a green fucking guy in the ring, but he's doing. Complicated moves because the other guy's taking him off of it. Was that. Yeah, and that's what I'm just being too fucking critical here. It's what he's been rehearsing. It's what he's been training is those specific moves. You know, if you watch. Like just I don't even remember exactly what if it was a hip toss or just shooting him to the ropes. He either ran out of energy or more than likely just didn't. Like it didn't look right. Like, you know, it just it looked like. Like you said, it didn't know. Good and made it look good for that. But you could tell that jelly roll had a lot of little. Well, what it is, is this is he's never been an athlete. Obviously. This is all new to him. You don't get the movement of being in the ring and. Doing these things that looks natural like the guys that have any idea what they're doing. Without a lot more time training and practice that he has had. And without the athleticism that is somewhat required. But even then that's what I'm saying. I can punch and kick. And later on, I get, you know, I figured I could hit the ropes and do some other things. But if they'd kept it more simple where the guy's just fighting like a guy and trying to make the simple shit look good. And I'm not saying that he's just a guy. Like a guy and trying to make the simple shit look good. Instead of he's catching people with power slams off the top and he's doing the. What was the backslide and all this other shit because then it becomes. Okay, I'm seeing that this guy doesn't have smooth movement in the ring and he's practiced this shit. If Mike Tyson had showed up, you wouldn't want him to start wrestling. Well, that's it. Yeah, I wouldn't have wouldn't have expected Mike Tyson to do a backslide. Or whatever the fuck, right? So anyway, point being. Kit fed him for everything and then there was to flip flopping flies. He's making dusty roads is come back. And it just it just got ridiculous because and because he's having fun. And then his finish was a choke slam. I just because he used to weigh 500 pounds. And now he's a deflated truck stop novelty condom as I've drawn the simile to before with other people. Why is he a powerhouse that can lift this full grown wrestler with one arm? After it seems his arms didn't have full range of motion during the match. Well, I mean, again, it's you can buy the choke slam from the fucking undertaker or Kane or Big Show or goddamn, all these giant guys do. But jelly roll that's his fitted the choke slam because it's cool. And the other guy can jump up in the air and fucking all jelly has to do is move his arm. But it's not plausible or logical. Or lyrical or responsible or practical. An interesting market to decide to do this match in Pittsburgh noted jelly roll hotspot Pittsburgh. Not Nashville or wherever Pittsburgh. You know, I think it Wilson's pretty good. And I hated him like you did when he was with his tag team partner who got hurt. It was almost like that first season of American Idol. They had two hosts. And then eventually they got rid of the other guy and no one missed him. And it was just Ryan Seacrest. Kill Wilson's good on his own. It's insufferable when he has another guy doing the same gimmick to him back and forth. Well, but the gimmick he read jelly a poem from his mother before he jumped him at the start of the match and the whole toxic. Well, yeah. Last week, they had a. A slam poetry battle. It's a cartoon. I'm not defending the gimmick. I'm just I'm defending the guy in the gimmick. I think he's good. And maybe this is his like triple H in a fucking, you know, bunch of mud moment. I don't know. A bunch of mud. You know, there are certain guys that you're like, yeah, there's something there, but they really seem to like. Be booking him my shit like they're covered in mud or they're doing jobs to jelly roll just like things. You're thinking of the pig pen match. That's right. Yes. It's what I've, what you're trying to say. It wasn't actually mud. It was it was pig poop. But nevertheless. It's a say A. W. To me at this point is just insulting to anyone who has ever taken pride in their performance in the professional wrestling game. Because of the. Fakeness and the silliness and the goddamn. Just endiness. This shit ain't any better, but at least they're in the company that's still making money. You can't, you know. You can't get away from this kind of foolishness in the business anywhere these days because they've come to. Have convinced themselves that they're not just a bunch of shit. They're not just a bunch of shit. To have convinced themselves that this is what wrestling is supposed to be or it's supposed to contain. Poor shit like this. But at least they're still fucking selling tickets hand over fist and making goddamn billions of dollars around the world with their top talent. But it's hard. To watch this show. It's hard to watch the other show just because of the. Redundancy repeated redundantly. With all of the indie minded talent and the fakery and foolishness. It's hard to watch this show. Because they've got. Top talent and they've got fucking all the goddamn. Crowds the momentum the tools the financing. And they're still doing a silly ass fake bullshit with fucking formerly fat fucking celebrities. And it's 930 Eastern time at this point this three hour extravaganza. We have seen Randy Orton. Come out and goddamn cut a promo. And get bopped in the head by Matt Cardona's microphone we've seen a girls tag match of a girls brawl jelly roll in a wrestling match and it's 9 fucking 30. This is around the time I fell asleep in the middle of the show either come back this morning and watch it. Well Brian I know why you fell asleep because you were making the mistake of watching this boring television program why you were already comfortable on your Helix sleep mattress tell the truth now isn't that what happened. I went to tell you the real truth I was sitting at my desk and I was getting tired and I said let me go to watch Smackdown in the bedroom on the mattress the Helix sleep mattress and then I just fell asleep. It was on. Exactly. But I fell asleep. But it was on. Exactly. But no I chose to go to the Helix sleep mattress it wasn't like I was already there the choice was let me watch it in comfort for my bed and it was an inadvertent passing out. But once you got on your mattress then you were off into fucking slumber land. That's the point. I couldn't fight it. You couldn't fight it. No because of the secret aromas of all of the chemical effects that the Helix mattress has on you you've heard of aromatherapy. No chemical. Helix just they just go straight to the point they smell so good because they soak them in ether before they leave the Jesus though they do not soak them in ether there's no ether when you lay down within six seven seconds. Boom. So don't plan on watching long mini series or binging the fucking Netflix or anything folks you're gonna know you're gonna have some serious night's sleep on the Helix mattress. And let's just make sure we clarify if any of the nice people at Helix are listening that's a throwback to a previous segment we did all about fun with ether but what we're talking about are great mattresses no chemical anything great mattresses and of course comfort is always first and you pick what's comfortable for you and Helix has a mattress for you. Yes for you. Nobody's going to tell you what comfortable is you're going to have to go to helixsleep.com and pick that out for yourself you're going to have to see whether you like the softer the medium or the firm or you like sleep on your side or your back or in a state of suspended animation in some type of hyperbaric chamber the new hyperbaric mattresses their flash freezing you it's the same process as frozen coffee crystals. We've talked about this please stop making up models that listeners request and they don't know is that still in development they do not have that mattress or the Bellagosie mattress or any of the other previous ones but what they have are great mattresses you can see right now if you go right to the website helixsleep.com of course. Of course a study that they ran found that 82% of those involved saw an increase in their deep sleep cycle while sleeping on a Helix mattress you will not argue with facts like that with the 129 sleep trial the limited lifetime warranty the free shipping the seamless delivery and not to mention that when you are in that deep sleep cycle it will actually prolong your lifespan because your organs will slow down so much more than on the other mattresses that they'll age at a slower rate you'll almost be in a state of ended animation. No you will not almost no no when you when you wake up there is a certain amount of acclimation to be done you're gonna have to learn to speak again. No you won't it'll be just like it was the night before or the afternoon before Helix doesn't decide when you go to sleep they just guarantee the comfort of your sleep and that you will have a great sleep. You can just go crazy and go to sleep in the middle of the morning if you want to and just make sure to set a real loud alarm because you're gonna be deep boy and maybe have the neighbors come in every couple of days. It could be wine in the morning or breakfast at night it doesn't matter Helix is there for you with a great mattress that you could pick Jim you have Helix sleep mattresses in your house and I have them here probably getting a new one here you said you have to get a new one as well the listeners may need a new one. How would they do that? Well there's a great promo code and a great link I'll say it before you hopefully get there soon helixsleep.com slash jce for a great deal but Jim I understand we have a great deal. 20% off is site wide is what's going on right now at that same helixsleep.com slash jce just go take the quiz fill it out give them the names of two neighbors it'll come and check on you every couple of days about 48 hours or so intervals don't need to make sure you come out of it no no you will come come out of what oh you you come out of it you you're what you're just saying there's no hope I'm hoping you'll come out of it we're we're we'll never give up hope Brian they'll come out of it sooner or later you will you will wake up I mean we can't guarantee that even I mean really what are we saying here ladies and gentlemen you know you need to go to sleep we hope for the best you need the mattress you could trust the mattress that Jim Cornette and Brian last trust in our homes yes and you can get it from helixsleep.com what's that promo code uh jce that's right helixsleep.com slash jce now we lay us down to sleep and it's a gamble from here folks okay speaking of fun with ether back to Smackdown well either Carmelo Hayes or Sami Zayn was going to be the United States champion after this next contest and trick Williams was going to watch just to make sure and they went for I would say probably about 20 fucking minutes here with this particular thing they did here did you see the pre-match thing in the back where trick Williams got a match at WrestleMania from Nick Aldis but Sami didn't and that led to Sami getting the match with Carmelo Hayes. Oh yes yes well well because Sami's all conflicted and fucked up right because he's been telling people trying to give him advice but it never comes out right and he's alienated some of his friends and ticked him off and then he feels left out and looked over and then he they didn't have any match for him at WrestleMania then after this match spoiler he's going to win when he went up to Nick Aldis holding that belt up he's like oh you got a spot for me now there Nick Aldis pal fella and Nick Aldis pal fella said yeah you're going to defend the title against trick Williams at WrestleMania who could have seen that coming since Sami had pickled trick in a face backstage earlier and also trick had been out there watching the match so at least the stuff makes sense you can see where they're going and whether they've been it's not like it just comes out of left field out of clear blue sky dropping in out of a helicopter appearing out of thin air it's just scary when you have the thought that there was more creative nuance with the road dog writing the show you can see here that you know people people were picklin of poor old Brian Armstrong well now they've got rid of him nothing changes that's the thing and that's the point that I make is that you can't judge anybody's booking that works in that you know it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not because he was just the head guy. He wasn't all the guys. Now he's the size of all the guys, but you get my point. There it is. That's the one thing about modern wrestling unless it's a company that's small enough that the Booker is the Booker and he has say over everything, you can't judge anybody's booking. I'm sorry, go ahead. No, I guess that's really what it is. You know, previously they were super serving the show that Vince McMahon wanted. And now it's the show that Paula Beck wants, or that Bruce Prichard wants to give the poll, whatever it is. So it's not really, and I'm not defending or putting down the booking of a Brian Armstrong or anyone else. Michael Hayes, who knows who else. They're not booking the show they want to see. They're booking the show their boss wants. And that's why it doesn't change even when the head of creative changes. And I will say one more thing about this match and we'll move on because it's already 10 o'clock. But on the spot that they did to change the title here was they were doing an O'Connor roll up into the ropes, but Trick was on the apron and Sammy did the deal where he ducked and there was Carmelo Hayes' face and Trick nails Carmelo. And I thought that it was supposed to look like Trick had been trying to hit Sammy, but Sammy ducked and he hit Carmelo, but Sammy ducked and then he hit Carmelo. It was like, how the fuck did you not? So I don't know whether the finish was a fuck up of what it was supposed to be or if since they're having, you know, that match, Trick can say, well, it was a plan. I wanted you to be the champion so I can take it away for it. You see what I'm saying here, but it didn't look like the timing was what you would have expected. Or did you pay that much attention? I paid attention. I paid attention. You were on your Helix mattress. You were. I watched this morning. I watched this morning. But did you get off your mattress? I was in the office. No, I watched from the office. You know, one of the studies says that 64% of the people asleep on a Helix mattress can get up before noon the next day and walk again under their own power after some therapy and massage. You closed the copy already. So you're just, I don't know where these numbers are coming from. I've got this memorized because there's. I want to let the listeners know that you can't trust that, there's more smack there. Oh, more of this matter. Yes. No, no, no, no, no more of that. Jacob Fattu came out to the ring. He ain't a happy guy because last week he and Drew had a big fight where Drew pulled Fattu out of the car through the windshield and they fought everywhere and then they fell off the top of a fucking building and. And then there was some nasty paper cuts exchanged. But nevertheless, Jacob Fattu came to the ring and did a promo. And he was again, he was selling after last week's big fight. He was all beat up and he was, you know, selling like he was having trouble talking, but he's there. And he started talking about what Drew did to him and the people, even though they like him, they're whatting him because his speech pattern leads to being what it. He's he speaks in short bursts and that's easy to what and sometimes he's been able to work with it to where it seemed like it fit and then he made a point of they all cheer. But when he was trying to. To still be selling a little bit, it was distracting from what he was trying to say and. Again, I've got to think that if Steve Austin has any regrets about his wrestling career, it will be starting that fucking thing. But nevertheless, Drew can't keep him down. He had plenty of emotion and he was fired up. He's still standing and every week. From now on, he's got a dog walk drew Mac and tires punk ass. And that means that Drew's music is going to play. He comes out. He's beat up to it is arms wrapped up or whatever the fuck. And here we go again. Fatou's not the victim drew is. You're funny. You're just a criminal and you did the time. And ever since you got out, you've stolen my title. You stole WrestleMania. You stole everything from me. And whereas Fatou had been talking about drew taking food from his family and food out of his kids mouths. He's like your kids foods crew your damn kids. What about my food. And then Nick Aldous interrupted because neither one of them was cleared to medically compete tonight, but they ought to be okay by April 18. I like the people involved and they're doing a good job. But God damn it, Brian, do we not see this same thing every week now. Did did the wrestling shows of old wherever they were from. Whatever territory they represented whatever talent roster did every week the same basic angle or situation occur over and over again. Not like we see today no way. I mean matches occurred over and over again because it was a program about wrestling but the angles the interviews when things got out of hand or, you know, broke the format they were all in completely different ways every week and then you did something. Again that you did two or three or four years ago. So they're going to be okay by WrestleMania and WWE is not responsible because the match is going to be unsanctioned. Which is no DQ anything goes. Which would be nice if that was different from any other four matches on every fucking show. I mean, you're part of the problem. You're saying they did a good job here and you're saying the pros and the cons but are the fans buzzing about this. I mean they're doing big things like falling into mystery ditches or whatever happened last week. Do you feel like the fans are really into it. They're wanting Jacob pop to part of that's because they don't really. I don't think they're really invested in this feud. It's just because they have the opening series all the way when it talks like this and it talks like that and it talks like that and it's perfect so they fall into it but Roman and punk has buzz. Cody and Orton has buzz. Sound like some they've got some buzz. Brock and oboe has all the buzz. And oboe had a lot of buzz. They got all kinds of buzz. They're practically vibrating. This not so buzzy. But also again, whether you the people are still buying tickets and spending ridiculous amounts of money whether it's because they're interested or invested or whether it's just by habit. And that they're like this is a thing we do now or we've got to do or we get whatever. Those are so similar you see so much of the same shit happening over and over again it's just driving me out of my mind. And then jelly was in the back given Matt Cardona a pep talk about his match up coming backstage pastor. Please let me confess to you my sins father role. So then Randy and Cardona is the main event. And he's already broke fucking Cardona's arm last week and it's in a stylish, you know, black colored cast. And you know he's going to need to sell my action figures if this is his wrestling career at this point. Orton the whole idea is to get heat on the new heel orton of course they're still going to cheer but it is to show the his new heel attitude and oh my gosh Cody's going to be in trouble so again this was perfect with what Orton does. He destroyed the arm that he injured last week. He gave Cardona some hope spots but he mostly beat the shit out of him and worked the arm and when it was by the time it was finally over there was no more hope spots and he just fucking beat him RKO 123. So Orton knows exactly what he's doing he's perfect in all of this. But the problem is he can't stop the fans from cheering them. Well but you in this instance we they don't need to because it's going to be a big time big buddy WrestleMania main event and the match because they're both smart workers the match knock on wood that nobody gets super kicked and knocked out is going to be fantastic and I think they're going to put it on Orton. I think I think Cody's going to get boot out of the building at WrestleMania against Orton. I think he will also but he still at least has not done anything that Cody wouldn't do unless they're going to turn him which I know some people said well he told rock to go fuck himself and he should have because he shouldn't have turned he old then. It would have been insane for him to turn he old then. Now I don't know. Orton the Viper is the champion to take on a new and fresh prospect. And you know have one more run before he rides off into the sunset and Cody gets bitter. And embraces the golden boy side of himself. But he doesn't have to paint himself gold I'm talking about the chosen one golden boy type of thing. If you can get a cameo out of the rock. Finish that story Cody finally took the deal. Now I think I think I think Cody's gonna stay far away from the rock as possible and hope everybody else will too but nevertheless. Orton one. And then you look at the screen and Cody's bus pulls up. It is 10 minutes to goddamn 11 Eastern on a show that goes off the air at 11. He must have gotten caught in traffic. And as he pulls up in the bus he gets out they go to the break and the picture and picture during the break had Cody make the entire walk from the parking lot. All the way through backstage and out while Orton is in the ring tossing security guys out like I'm staying here. And when they come back they play his music. We got like six minutes on here here we go Cody comes the ring. All this insecurity or trying to stop him he says I just want to talk. And he gets in the ring and immediately starts kicking Orton's ass. And again subtly Orton wasn't running and backing up like a heel like a chicken shit but Orton was the one that would bail to get space Orton was the one that needed some respite Orton was the one that shoot up here amongst us because one of us needs some relief. And then there's subtle healishness but still not out of character for Orton because it was it was something you do this guys all over you you're going to get the fuck out of there and try to get some space. And they did a long pull apart where they were all into the ring and back out on the floor and had 15 security guys and Cody would do a break loose and then Orton would do a break loose and then Orton would bail and Cody would catch him and he'd fight on the desk. And then Cody do a break loose and finally they're holding both of them. And here's again 15 officials in the ring holding these two guys in opposite corners. And here comes that fat basset hound faced fucking jelly roll to get into he all settled things down. Like he's fucking Kissinger. And he says something to Orton and then he sees trying to talk to Cody. And Orton breaks free and jelly's looking behind him kind of trying not to look but looking like oh shit is he here and Orton turns him around and RK osing. And that was the biggest pop I think of the fucking night. Because I don't know about the national audience but I think by that point Pittsburgh was tired of jelly. And then they were chanted Randy Randy Randy Randy. Yeah they got a baby face heel it's like almost like the Steve Austin dynamic not to that level obviously but the fans are not ready or wanting to boo Randy. Even though Randy is doing all the heel stuff against technically the top baby face and technically a baby face celebrity. They prefer Randy. But this is where it works. Because it whether they're reacting traditionally or not they're reacting and they're fucking over and the shit makes sense for both guys. They haven't done anything out of character. But at the same time for the reasons that I said before Randy's an icon at WrestleMania everybody will see the belt change they want a moment. This is new and fresh. They know it's all bullshit. So they don't particularly have to goddamn. Choose between all I hope we're like in the old days I hope. The heel you know really it's his ass kicked and doesn't hurt the baby face now they're not like I hope the heel doesn't hurt the baby they're not worried about the baby face they just want to see shit take place. So yeah fucking he's a bad guy now this is cool. But they're they're paying millions of dollars to do this and the performances make sense in the in the overall scheme of it so this I ain't got a problem with. If you've got two guys who aren't two of the biggest stars in the world that don't have a goddamn coherent reason for wanting to have a fucking fight then you've got an issue but. You've got that here. But they also got jelly roll. And I don't think it took much for people to say thank you Randy for RKO and jelly on this particular night he just he was everywhere everywhere and I don't think anyone saw that match and said you know I really want to see him wrestle again. You've seen it. You didn't see anything that may just say I need to see more. And again. You shouldn't expect more because he's not Logan Paul he's not even bad bunny. He's a fat guy that's never been athletic but keep it simple and keep it short and limited quantities and yay. But when it's ridiculous and it's sees in everything and he's just suddenly started injecting himself as the father confessor of the company. He's going to get on people's nerves quick quicker and he's got on mine. That'll smack down that's that's a list of most of the people that have got on my goddamn nerves this week Brian I didn't cover everybody we're going to wait on a couple and see whether they come back or not. Sounds good and we will come back on the drive through in a few days. Are we are we still going to do that. Oh come on you can't you can't leave that up in the air you're going to disappoint people. Well I don't want to do that that would be too much like jelly so yes we will be back on the drive through in a few days and back here on the experience to talk about fun stuff. Maybe I want to take up golf what's Tiger Woods doing. Anyway, talk about something fun next week on the experience and until then, folks, thank you to a specific number of people out there. Fuck you. And everybody else. Bye bye.