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this is an i heart podcast guaranteed human you are listening to the dan patrick shawan fox sports radio what's up to jason garrard uh... bc's football night in america next hour also drew breeze will join us a first ballot whole of famer i think a lot of attention on the patriots and the fallout after an incredible year was boy they got exposed and mike vrayble in particular talking yesterday at the patriots press conference about his left tackle will camber we sign up to play left tackle you sign up to play corner you sign up to play quarterback side of the head coach uh... you get judge you get scrutinized here was twenty two years old is their left tackle you'll get better and get stronger moments where you played well moments where you block the guy there's plays he'd like to have back without moving well to to guard center to tight and there anywhere else rock to tell you and then will camber who didn't speak to the media after the super bowl loss spoke yesterday swan tonight to sleep on things hopefully y'all can forgive me and we can move past that i know myself and if i were to spoken after i would assess something that i didn't need to say obviously you know i was picked high paid a lot so people expect a certain thing and i expect more myself uh... so whenever i don't perform i don't expect you know everyone to be like it's okay buddy i mean obviously it sucks uh... but it doesn't suffer anyone more than a source of my mike reese covers the patriots espn nfl nation reporter house morale how would you sum it up and i agree to be with you this morning i i think there's two parts to this there's the short term morale which is the acknowledged they got their butt kicked in the super bowl uh... will camber was asked what it was like to review the film of the game and he said terrible you know i said they didn't deserve to win based on the way they played offensively so that's the short term morale i think mike raveald did a really good job as he did all year in terms of messaging with the team about the the big picture morale and he he kept citing the number three hundred seven three hundred seven and he was saying this is the the three hundred seven day of our program since first year as the head coach no one thought they were going to be here so i think he was able to zoom out with the players and sort of allow them to see that they had a great season just a very disappointing end to that great season okay but let's take it into next season with will camber uh... it's gonna need surgery and was that really preventing him from getting any kind of uh... stance to hold up to the Seattle defense and then drake may with his shoulder going into next season so let's start with will on the surgery i i don't know the answer to that question then uh... but my my hunch would be no just because he he had an mcl injury november twenty third at since an adi he went on injured reserve you missed i believe it was four or five games before coming back and he said that that was no excuse for his performance and so i'll follow up on that to see if any surgeries required but my sense is no coming out of that and drake i i know for sure because i asked him that question yesterday with the right throwing shoulder does he anticipate that it would need any surgery he said no just a rest for that you look at his regular season and i said i i would have given him the mvp because i didn't think the patriots were gonna score twenty points in the super bowl i mean i had them losing by double digits uh... he did a lot for them during the regular season and in obviously brable that defense was wonderful but we saw a different drake may in the postseason and i don't know what you attribute that to because he was obviously under duress uh... a lot of turnovers there and really wasn't very threatening even though it came up with the most passing yards in one quarter in the history of the super bowl so and and that in that great example of how stats can be misleading because in the fourth quarter i think i counted thirty one dropbacks and you know they were down nineteen nothing so if i'm getting that right and i think start with what drake said yesterday he acknowledged that he did not play as well down the stretch as he wanted to and he said he's committed to make the promise that he's going to work hard to try to get back there and to write that wrong if you will so that's the first thing with drake i think who they played has to be part of this conversation those were for if we're talking about the playoffs for the best defenses in the NFL so i think that is part of it uh... in this conversation about his play tailing off in in the postseason you go with a last place schedule to now a first place schedule and nobody's going to say they backed into the super bowl or the playoffs next year what do you make of uh... what's ahead it's exactly what drake said yesterday he said that that everyone's going to be coming after them next year so they have to have the mindset that they haven't arrived that there's more work to do uh... to maintain their standing then they're gonna have probably six prime time games and uh... you know i think i think i have with the seventeen games and they're gonna have one more road game and home game and and let's be honest you know that it's some people talked about the schedule they had this year in some of the breaks they caught as if it was like a demerit to the team i i think two things can be true they did have an easier schedule this year they still went nine and oh on the road that's not easy to do so i think two things at the same time can be true but it's not gonna be like that next year the way it looks right now talking to mike reese we uh... he works for the mothership the NFL nation reporter covering the patriots how much damage did brady do last week in terms of him saying he didn't have a dog in the fight yeah i i think it was more um... with some of his former teammates i think that hurt some of his former teammates to hear him say that because uh... there's also a statute then out here outside i'm not far from it i'm down here at the stadium right now if i walked outside and went about two hundred yards away i'd see a big statue of them and so i think maybe it just chip the way a little bit at some of the the but why not take a stand who cares what for tom i think it may be yeah maybe maybe because he feels like as uh... the broadcaster that it's called he's not partial he's not impartial he's not covering the game that's why i'm just like just say hey i'm always gonna be rooting for mr. craft in the patriots and and you know i but i'm gonna hire their offensive coordinator i'm rooting for him as well nobody would have cared until he made us care about this now i i think that's fair and i think he tried to clean it up it was probably a little late right then on the instagram story when he said you know robbercraft go get the seventh ring so we can both have seven but at that point it's sort of spread right i will say this with the present team there was one player robert spleen the linebacker said it made him sick to hear that but but honestly and they've done a good job sort of separating and saying this is a new era like we have respect for the old era but they're not really clinging on to to what they did in the past oh man nevis i mean it was a gift for us during the super bowl week because there wasn't a whole lot to talk about leading up to this game so i do think tom for providing that mike thank you for joining us we appreciate it and thank for having me that's mike reese of the mothership covering the patriots in between tom you know his social media calendar he is busy he these party in his dance in exchange in phone numbers he's on yachts he's you know got commercials here although when i do see the pizza hut commercial i do think it's clever the problem is tom doesn't eat pizza hut that's the problem like subway like i laughed when i saw it i'm like dude you're not going to be at subway you're not going to be writing in a subway let alone eating a subway sandwich here but the pizza hut i had i did laugh the first time i saw it but then i went he did not eat pizza hut it was like when when tiger was doing the buick commercials and i'm going all right might have one parked in the driveway but i'm going to guess there's a Mercedes or something of Ferrari that's going to be in the driveway or in the garage yes even i don't know when he crashed that car well that was a rental uh... that was a rental and he has to be seen pulling up to be golfing event in a buick product placement yeah yeah but if he's driving around didn't didn't a shack do a buick commercial and i'm going unless they they manufactured a brand new buick just for him i can't imagine shack getting into a buick yeah poly tiger woods when he had that crash in twenty twenty one memories going to the golf course he was driving a genesis gv eighty now that was a courtesy car from the tournament and then the other accident had the thanksgiving night was a catalact escalate okay just journalist yeah that's when the seven iron came through the uh... the window cranberry sauce all over the place uh... got busted being on his phone texting thanksgiving dinner that was a sign run into the car oh my goodness how about a couple of phone calls here and we get there uh... what time ready to get on the pizza hut uh... carderan Seattle carder you going to the parade today uh... begrudgingly down get this i am born a race in the out of hate the sea hawks can't stand on the packer pan my boss however i'm a bodyguard my boss is going so i get to attend the trophy ceremony and the parade yay wait you're a bodyguard i am yes and i am uh... yet some i wait to uh... do the trophy ceremony do the parade and i cannot stand the sea hawks can you tell me who you're guarding uh... will be that one out okay and that's my thank you thank you quarter and go pack go give us the target and the location yes dot carderan's very intimidated i don't want any part of that yeah eric and michigan i eric what's on your mind today uh... yes i remember like pretty saying the nation that the kid out to the experience that's the public parade i find that ironic when you know that he said that when he would not go to the simple mobile parade when one miller and right now i know we still crush him over that and he goes out with the only game you want to get a good bring my son yes i i think it's a good idea to have the opposite actually they got some kind of test or quiz they better off going to school you skip the game and the parade i did that taking a stance because there was only one ticket off it in his generous as that was i was a package deal with my son and i was only going to go if there was like two tickets i didn't want to go for just goodbye myself that's i felt i stand by them did your son say don't go take a stance dad didn't even ask his opinion i was my call and i'm like i'm following the sun thinks he was an infant we were screaming at the tv together rooting for brachos i'm not going to open it mark in virginia high mark what's on your mind today a dp four-time long time i'm gonna pull question for you guys possibly today okay uh... poll question would be um... what is the best high school athlete teammates but one entry would be randy moths and jason williams the other one would be current one that staffer and clinton kershaw well they're both going to the hall of fame but if you're talking about teammates one was really good in baseball and one was really good in football whereas randy moths and white chocolate were uh... on the state championship team in west virginia i'm sure there's a ton of marvin this is right up your alley yet but a lot of those guys their prep school guys i can say all these guys were on oak hill academy in my verdict hope please you guys are all state and you guys went to these prep schools oh you know what reggie louis reggie williams and mugsie bogs roll in the same high school team it was done bar yet so like public schools maybe local private high schools but do not give me oak hill or any of these big time i'm g academy that doesn't count is oak hill academy still exist they do but they're just that my birdie now has taken over as the top prep school like if car mellow was you know playing now he'd go to my verdict not oak hill okay but mount vertie pays better i'll get me out of that i'm not sure no i and everything's for sale now true i mean these kids going to high school and you get the shoe companies giving the money and you get merchandise i mean there they're trying to get you as early as possible and i don't know what a high schooler gets but i would imagine you're getting something yeah pulling we're looking up this high school thing then simmonds and d'angelo russell played basketball together at mongverday academy and pretty high-end then simmonds back in the day yeah you see i don't come no i know and you know what did i say when i first saw him play i think he's shooting with the wrong hand i did come in and say he's shooting with the wrong hand and people went well what are you talking about go he is not a natural left handed shooter in my opinion and then all of a sudden the story came out where i think he admitted that he's not a natural left handed shooter i don't know if he's a natural right handed shooter either but i watched him in l.a. shoe and i went that dude can't shoot like we did i mean he he looked like he was going to be the next magic or lebron or whatever i don't know if he loved the game but he couldn't shoot which is remarkable to get to that level to be that good and nobody said uh you know you might want to work on your shot a little bit i don't need to yes marvin well that's the thing about basketball those guys are genetic lottery winners so if you see somebody that six ten play basketball it's in his dad was a professional i think also so the genetics are there so it's not like if you play football you play baseball you generally like you love the game but basketball you don't know if that seven footer really loves basketball he's he's tall but it didn't take long for you to go uh... we're gonna work on that shot if i see it during a game and i go he can't shoot uh... then maybe somebody else saw that it seemed to be doing pretty well up until you got to the mba well now you can get by with with talent and height being able to score around the basket but i would have been five feet off of him i just go go ahead if you if you make those shots you're like angel Reese if you make those shots good go ahead i would like to see angel Reese against ben simmons in a shooting content i tune into the for like where zero zero half fifteen footers fifteen footers and then we'll have a bonus round where we take it out to eighteen feet and i just tell the ballboys where 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company live so listen to stegatsu company live and our original podcast please subscribe rate and review stegatsu company and god bless football tailors livelihood depends on it do it today and you can check all those out on the i heart radio app apple podcast for wherever you get your podcast former head coach in the NFL joining us i watched the pregame and you were pretty confident where you thought Seattle was going to win by double digits why did we use so confident i just thought there was so much better you know when you watch the film of them all year long you know there's something about the gauntlet that they went through in the nfc west that was interesting to me you play San Francisco three times you play the rams three times you know they they win 14 games in the regular season they're impressive in the playoffs the defense is dominant sam was clean throughout the playoffs and and you know i don't want this to come out the wrong way because it is hard to win a game let alone win 14 games but buffalo's road all you excuse me no one goes wrote all year long was not nearly as challenging you know buffalo was the only team they played with the winning record and um you know i just feel like at the end of it Seattle was they went through the gauntlet they were more impressive and i just think talked about in their better team help me understand knowing what Seattle's doing your left tackle is drowning and it doesn't seem like you're changing your offensive philosophy at all why uh... i was surprised you know no winglands approach uh... you know the challenges were going to be up front we set up before the game that i just don't know of no winglands offensive line can block Seattle's front and they couldn't block them when it was a four-man line and they didn't handle the pressures very well at all and what was interesting was they were not challenging pressures it was a single db coming with her spoon uh... it was strong dog meeting a mike in this and nickel sam coming these aren't complicated pressures and it just didn't seem like no England had any answer for it and and for me you go into the game and it's okay let's try to do this and then it's not working i was just surprised they didn't try something different hey get an empty get the ball out of his hand quickly that's something they've done certainly chipping those guys and and and changing up protections is something you could get to and and Josh McDaniels is as good as they get i mean trust me he's in his tenth super bowl but but as that game moron i was surprised he just didn't try something different to to alleviate it and i was also really surprised they couldn't handle what appeared to be pretty basic pressures they looked a little bit lost out there yeah i'm surprised and of course you know you have forgotten more football than i know and i'm going can't we just bring some help over there if if you're going to go back to pass then have the opportunity to pass you know i don't know what's going to happen after you throw it but at least giving the opportunity to be able to throw the football and i really thought they would subscribe to the tom brady playbook where it's just out of his hands quickly and therefore you neutralize that and then maybe you get you know five seven ten yards you keep some drives alive i thought they abandoned the run way too early and if i'm noticing this and i'm a novice i mean saddles probably going uh i don't think they're going to change anything let's just keep doing what we're doing yeah the number one thing when you're putting these plans together and again Josh knows this better than anybody it's what's your protection plan okay that that's every week but then particularly when you're talking about their offensive line going against that Seattle front and you said it you know what are the answers let's get it out quickly part of what new England's DNA has been for 25 years is let's use empty and let's get the ball out of his hand five protectors but we're going to give you quick answers boom figure it out throw it to the best matchup and let's see if we can move it that way the other thing to do is you start bringing people in you have a tight end you have a back you chip and hammer on the issue for them was particularly the left hand side you know rushing on Campbell but you know you do those things by bringing extra people in you have seven protectors eight protectors in some cases nine protectors where you're just you're loading it up that way and just didn't seem like they did a lot of that and you said it the best way to alleviate the the past rushes you run at them you make them be run defenders first and they weren't able to do that either but you know let's give Seattle credit you know they've been really really good all year long and you say okay let's run it the third best run defense in the league you know they cover really well in the back end they pressure yet it was going to be a challenge and that's why we said that going in Seattle is better but again I'm not so sure New England did enough to adjust and give their quarterback and their team enough chances in that game and and we saw it we saw throughout the game Jason Garrett from football night in America would you rather have a good quarterback for 35 million or a great quarterback for 55 million great for 55 oh not even close yeah ready for 55 you know you those guys make such a difference you know what why did the Rams have a real good opportunity to beat Seattle because they paid Matthew Stafford he's just an elite player I mean this this is a rare rare football player and so all those things we're talking about getting the ball out of your hand quickly handle the pressures identifying the looks I mean this guy does it in his sleep and then he can throw the ball like it's nothing so go back in the history of football there's been 60 Super Balls now look at all the Super Bowl winning teams typically typically they have a great quarterback look at all the dynasties in the history they NFL it's great head coach oh by the way elite quarterback is in the Hall of Fame so to me it's a no-brander if you got one you pay him the worst thing is your paying 55 million dollars for a guy who's not a lead that's where you're running the issues any names you want to name no but you know you get you get to that point where you say he's our guy and oh hell we've got to pay him that that's where you make the mistake you got to believe deep down that this is an elite player who's gonna make a difference for your team but why do these teams I never would have extended Kyler I never would have extended to well these are all things I said in real time CJ Stroud I'm not extending him I mean I'm gonna make him prove that he is an elite quarterback here we just jump early why no doubt you know you start to feel this pressure you know from the outside oh you got a guy you're reflash for you and you really got to be in your building and you have to evaluate it and you have to evaluate it hard and say okay is this guy really the guy we want for the next 10 years leading our franchise and just because they haven't done it yet doesn't necessarily mean you say no to that you know a lot of people say oh he hasn't done it hasn't one yet well okay you have to pull back an independent of those results say is this our guy has he demonstrated the intangible quality great leader tough all of that does he have the physical ability to make a difference you know the great Ron Wolfline on Brett Farb does he tilt the field you know if you're gonna pay a guy 55 million dollars he better be a difference maker he better represent everything you want your organization and I agree with you I think they jump the gun too much on these decisions yeah and you start to look at the offseason here is Pittsburgh gonna bring Aaron Rogers would you bring back Aaron Rogers if you were coaching the Steelers well if I were Mike McCarthy I think I'd be better applying to answer that question you know he was with him for so long as we all know so I think that adds a little bit of a wrinkle to it I thought I thought Aaron did a great job you know helping that team get to where they were but again when you're bringing in a new coach and it's a new regime okay do we want to start over you know maybe it's Aaron Rogers for a year but you draft the quarterback high and say okay we're gonna do this Patrick Mahomes thing you know like Alex Smith was gonna was gonna keep the seat warm for our quarterback who's coming in the future maybe it's that decision but I don't say automatically we're kicking him to the curb he's been too good throughout his career he was too good this year and then the connection with McCarthy is an interesting wrinkle to it but you have to have a plan going forward but I look at Miami I don't know what their plan is is it Quinn yours until they maybe find their quarterback is is Bryce Young is he a big time let's extend him quarterback in Carolina Minnesota that seems to be a mess Pittsburgh big question mark there Arizona big question mark there and there's there's a lot of things that need to be answered here I don't know if they will be but that's just a you know a few a handful of teams yeah I agree with you completely and like I said you know the only thing worth to not have in a quarterback is having the wrong one that you're paying a lot of money to so it's probably better to take a breath on some of these decisions and and and let them prove it to you if they come back and prove it to you again okay you know the evidence is there but I do think you have to be careful because the obvious question and the reason you asked me in the beginning is if it's 55 or 35 what are you doing with that 20 million dollars and are you are you able to build a defense like Seattle bill because you put your resources over there you need to put your quarterback in an environment where it can have success so if he's taking all the money and you're not paying linemen or playmakers or defensive players it's going to be harder for him to have success so you better believe in the guy we got Drew breeze coming up next hour I pay him well you can't pay him now because that that arm is gone but I know you cross paths with him you spent a lot of time with Drew breeze at certain points didn't you yeah we did you know football history could have been different if Drew breeze came to Miami when I was when I was coaching down there but you know things all work out the way they do but how close was that that he was going to play for saving oh I think it was really close you know we went to we went to New Orleans on Wayne high zenges plain and you know he and his wife came back with us we had an amazing dinner you know it's easy to say now but we all we were in on on Drew breeze obviously and you know ultimately came down to a medical decision where they said he had a 75% tear of his growth tear cuff and he wanted x number of dollars guaranteed and you know I'll never forget we're not going to do that you know and you know who's the one that said that same who said that say it again who said we're not going to do that our coach was the guy who ultimately said okay so Sabin said you're not we're not going to give him what he wants well I just think it was a bigger decision you know he probably discussed the discuss to with the doctors and with ownership and where he was physically and all of that and you know my content and all along is I get it I certainly understand it but I I bet on certain guys coming back from injuries more than others and and even though it was a severe injury to Drew the fact that it's Drew breeze makes you think this is the kind of guy is going to do absolutely everything possible to get himself right and cheer it off he only threw it for 60,000 yards after we got those discussions. 62,000 to be exact but but you guys took Dante cold pepper wasn't wasn't he a medical risk as well he was he was and and that was the tricky part of it and it's a little bit toward discussion that we're having right now about quarterbacks you know just because we weren't able to do the one thing didn't mean we necessarily had to do the other thing and Dante was an amazing player but such a big part of his game was his movement you know he threw 39 touchdown passes two years before that but so many of them were him knocking guys away and running extended plays rocking to the ball down the field and he had a severe knee injury and he was not able to move like he was earlier in his career and he just wasn't the same player and so you know in that situation you say okay we can have breeze we necessarily have to do this maybe it's better to keep the slate clean for now and then go make the best decision going forward and we chose not to do that. Yeah, a great season I enjoyed the Super Bowl coverage as well thank you as always for your contributions. You're the best thanks so much for having me. Thank you buddy Jason Garrett football night in America and former Calvary's head coach or Notre Dame football as well. Sam Donald's in that sweet spot you don't have to worry about that for another year at least but hey if he has another great year you have a playoff run now all of a sudden Sam will be 29 years of age and Sam would probably be saying how about 50 55 million and he will have earned that that's where I think people we give up on quarterbacks really early and you know for a variety of reasons a lot of times that quarterback goes to a bad team you get bad habits bad results and confidence is shot then all of a sudden you get kicked to the curb then you got to rebuild your confidence then you got to show that you can be a good team player then you get your chance and then you go and then you get that 35 million dollar contract I mean Baker Mayfield did this obviously Sam Darnell has done this and I hope this is a pattern for other quarterbacks who get kicked to the curb get that opportunity don't price yourself out of being on a good team I mean Sam on a good team I can have a beat quarterback and I can have an a defense and my special teams were a plus and I got a coach the first coach and NFL history to call all the defensive plays while being the head coach Mike McDonald he's not even 40 years of age so almost the defensive side of Sean McBase offensive genius you get that with Mike McDonald getting that coach I know we talk about getting your quarterback but getting that coach really really important we know that but I don't think we spend enough time on did we get the right guy like New England got the right guy everybody would agree Seattle got the right guy and there's other coaches around the league where you go you know drawd Mayo didn't get the right guy yes Marvin so if Sam Darnell goes on a run for the next maybe four or five years people won't even remember that he was a jet they're gonna remember me remember Sam Darnell played for the Seahawks safe thing make it to another super bowl and he plays good football for the next five years in Seattle no they'll remember because jets fans will lament the fact that they let him go so it'll still be there was they won't remember that he was a backup in San Francisco or he was on the scout team in Carolina but they'll remember that he played for the jets because we won't let the jet fans forget that yes ball you're all you're kind of both right there because it'll be a footnote that he's a jet but the more success that Darnell has the more the he came from the jets and overcame the jets will be replayed and replayed with every story about him all right let's say break we'll get to more phone calls coming up do breeze in the final hour we're back after this Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation catch all of our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app search FsR to listen live Drew breeze first ballad hall of famer and joining us on behalf of a stretch zone a brand new research study that we'll talk to him about how important was first ballad to you you know what I think all of this is still pretty surreal you know I I don't think as a kid you necessarily sit there and think about you know hall of fame I think at that point you're just thinking I just want to play this word for as long as I can I love playing it I love being a part of the team maybe I can play in college someday maybe I can play in the NFL someday and then all of a sudden you play 20 years and the numbers add up to the point where you know people think it justifies you'd be in a first ballad hall of famer so I mean honestly I just have such such a respect and a reverence for the game and to the opportunity to play it for so long and try to make my mark on the game and be even better than when I found it but you define the odds because if I said hey he's not 6 4 not 6 5 in an era where everybody had to be 6 4 6 5 in college you're 6 feet and you're not a runner I can't doesn't add up like how did you beat the odds to be able to throw for 60,000 yards well if you recall you had me on your show about what 10 years ago at the Super Bowl and I think we went through my draft reading where it did say I was a runner it was saying I would run through people I didn't know how to make a mess a top it's that a top runner a top runner that was you know 20 pounds ago you know and I was playing in the big 10 had the bulk up you know you know honestly I I think pride in that I I take pride in being you know call it a 6 foot quarter back you know maybe being a little bit undersized I always felt like I had something to prove I had chip on my shoulder I mean I don't know what it's like to be 6 5 you know do those guys have better vision do they can they see up over the line of scrimmage and you know it's like a whole new world up there I bet in that stratosphere I'm not I always felt like honestly this is a way I've always described it is if you close your eyes so you take away you know your your your visual sense all of a sudden your sense of hearing it is heightened in your sense of smell and you're just sense of awareness and feeling of what's around you that's probably the best way to describe maybe playing the quarterback position in the pocket amongst a world of giants where at times maybe you can't necessarily see exactly where you're throwing the football but you can feel what's around you and you can sense the depth of the linebacker and then the safety over the top and you know that that receiver is going to be rolling that in cut in at 15 yards and your feet are telling you it's time to turn the ball loose right and you let it go and you just lay it to that spot and then it's like poetry and motion it hits them in the hands and it's you know first down and then you're on to the next play to do it again so like I can't tell you many times that was playing the quarterback position where you wouldn't necessarily always see it but it didn't mean that you couldn't feel it or that you couldn't visualize it. Let me put you in Drake May's position on Sunday and what would you have done differently as far as protections or philosophy of when you get the ball out like what you know what are you doing differently when you see what Seattle's doing? Well first off that defense was as good as there was in this league you know all your long that Seattle defense they could rush the passer they had a ton of skill on the back end as well I can't give enough credits might be Donald and kind of just what he built with that system with that team. At the end of the day when you're playing a pass rush like that there's a premium to fighting ways to get the ball out just trying to get the ball on the perimeter to guys where it's one-on-one maybe they have a chance to just get you three four yards I think you just have to be okay with the fact that you may not get a ton of explosive plays because you're not going to have the chance to hold the ball very long then you mix in a put you got to run the ball effectively you got to get on the perimeter and then you kind of pick and choose your slots to throw in a play action to try to push the ball down the field but you have to be okay with more of a ball control there's a premium on not having negative plays not giving up sacks because you get a third long against that defense like you're done you know and so play the field position battle a little bit look early on your defense was playing really well too they were holding the Seattle to a bunch of field goals so you you were keeping the game close but they just needed to cash in a few more times and just not give up so many negative plays talking to first ballot Hall of Famer Drew breeze when were you told you guys we're going to open up your Super Bowl the second half with an onside kick so so Sean Payton had nicknamed that play ambush and I'm literally the first meeting of because it was you know two week lead time from you know NFC championship to Super Bowl literally the first meeting we come in and it's like hey here's the practice gradual bup bup bup and oh by the way we have this onside kick it's called ambush it's not a matter of if we're going to call it but when so get ready and it has to work so it wasn't score it wasn't score dependent you're opening up the second half yeah it was it was all look and and and this is this is part of the greatness of Sean Payton is just the instincts and just feeling the flow of the game and the momentum and just knowing the right time to to call it and again he said it wasn't matter of if it was when like when are we going to do this we're going to call it and if you recall the way that game started with the Colts you know they came right out scored on their first two possessions they were up 10-0 and then we called it down a little bit in the second quarter we got to feel goal two field goals before half and and so Sean felt like okay we now have the momentum we're kicking off in the second half they're kind of resetting themselves on the other side because we had you know staged a little bit of this comeback so he's like this is this is when they'll never expect it so much of an onside kick is you do it when nobody thinks you're going to do it right in the Super Bowl biggest stage coming a half time you have all the momentum you know and and and and it was the perfect time to do it and it could have gone wrong it could have gone really wrong but again again a great sign of leadership is instilling confidence right in belief in in your team and making it feel like it's work of me told us again very first meeting we are going to call this and it has to work it will work but you knew going out the start of the second half that ambushes on well and here's a great thing too is he intentionally kicked the ball the direction he kicked it knowing that here Thomas Morstead is going to kick this thing and it needs to happen at our sideline right like again you're thinking about the human nature element of all of a sudden there's a scrum on the ground for the ball and all the officials are over there prying bodies away trying to see who has the ball and if they're on the same sideline and everybody's going Saints ball Saints ball you know if if if there's any type of a you know a question it's a it's white ball right as opposed to that happens on the opposing sideline and they're just getting it from the other side maybe you know the results different we uh... speaking of results different we talked to Jason Garrett last hour and he said that uh... he was there in Miami and having dinner you and your wife thought that uh... you were going to be going there what I didn't understand is okay you had a shoulder injury but they decided on Dante colpepper who also had a damaged knee and they kind of bet on his knee over your shoulder yeah you know I I remember everything about that trip to Miami again like on paper you know I'm coming off of the the short the major shoulder injury not sure if I'm ever going to play football again but but hopeful and it's the normal in Saints in the Miami Dolphins on paper this was the easiest decision in the world it's the Miami Dolphins all the way Nick Sabin's the head coach has done an outstanding job of that defense one of the best defense of the league Zach Thomas Jason Taylor like they had finished that last season the previous season winning seven in a row really the only question mark for their team was quarterback the head skill position guys Jason Garrett was the quarterback coach Mike Malarkey was the OC they were running the same offensive system that I was coming from in San Diego on my recruiting trip there we're eating uh... dinner on Wayne Heizingas Yacht and he said they're talking about how every summer we're going to go to Scotland and play golf me you and Dan and like Dan they're like yeah Dan Marino I'm like I was like my mentor now you know me like this is the greatest day ever you know state of Florida no stating like this is a no-brainer right but but also on that trip they put me through like this this rigorous you know health you know inspection basically like six hours of testing contrast MRI to you know where I'm in the MRT literally literally for two hours and they're trying to assess just the damage that was done to shoulder and the chances of me being able to come back and be the same remember sticking these big needles in my arm to test my nerve endings I mean it was nuts um and and at the end of the day Nick Saban looked me in the eye and said you know our doctors think you have a 25% chance of ever coming back and planning it um and I'm like well okay I know what they say but what do you think you know he's like I you know I gotta believe what the doctors are telling me you know but you know we still want you but you know it's just letting you know kind of you know what's been said and and so I just really didn't get the feeling that they had a ton of faith or confidence in my ability to come back so despite how good that visit was and how much respect I had for them and the organization and everything you know the saints was a totally different story from the perspective of look I mean we know that city was destroyed you know but Sean Payton and Mickey Luminous had just this unwavering belief in me to be their guy and and to be a leader of that organization it was gonna be this collaboration and I was gonna have so much input they were building this thing around me and um it was just that moment where I felt like I had a chance to be a part of something so much greater than football felt like it was God's calling in my life to be there and so that's why we chosen worlds did the saints not have an MRI machine they didn't put you through the same test that the dolphins apparently not it was down you know for you I think it was a little bit maybe it was like you know ignorance is bliss it was like we don't want to know we would rather not look at the images or just gonna you know maintain a ton of faith and hope that that you're gonna be okay tell us what you're doing with the stretch zone effect yeah so so stretch zone is a practitioner led stretching brand the fastest growing largest in the country um it's been around since 2016 I've actually been a member since 2018 it was a big part of my routine towards the end of my career just to help with my flexibility and mobility which which helps to generate power as a throw in a rotational athlete all the things that you would lose with the aging 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overall better quality of life good for you uh congrats again always appreciate you joining us thank you Drew you two damn thanks man great seeing you Drew breeze now you can say first ballot holo famer it would matter to me now I know you want to get in the holo famed but getting in with the first ballot designation that all of a sudden like Drew walks in six five not six foot yeah see Drew breeze first team all dap guy one of the strongest daps uh in the league for sure really yeah yeah watch any video of him after a play or like in the locker room with some dudes super strong dap game never a miss always licking his fingers though yeah yeah yeah but that's true the lick in your fingers did your wife ever say we stop it yes yes she's like do you know where your hands are here as a quarterback does our yes i'm sorry i just it just it just became habit you know did you ever do it around that shelf you guys bugle their chin straps you know like to lock in um um uh figure liquor okay did you ever do it around the house yes that's the thing that's messed up when i get in it when i get in an environment where i have to like flip the switch and go super focus mode like you will see that and i can't help it i'll tell you i can't lie to the point where yeah my wife will be like did you really just randomly lick your fingers like walking down the street like she and she should go like what are you thinking about and i'm like i'm thinking about that she's like when you get laser focused you just immediately go to the the finger like that's like your that's your mechanism how did you not get a Kentucky fried chicken deal uh you know that's a great question Dan um we're we're we're gonna we're on yeah more more McCain's more of a canes guy but but okay yeah what about for breeze uh yeah well for breeze we got breeze airways yeah um there's there's there's a lot of there's a lot of a lot of directions we can go here i'm trying to help you i'm trying to help you okay i know you're you're creative creative director all right i'll let you go that's uh i'll lick my fingers here drew breeze yeah yeah he would always you could tell like they'd be getting a drive and you know game on the line all of a sudden he'd be licking his fingers i remember i'd always clean the bottom of my converse when i was playing yeah that's a big one yeah yeah that's yes Todd i love when the interview is over in the guest fix around now he's over here what we're saying and then all of a sudden there's a part two of the interview afterwards no mario does a great job that he'll he likes to keep the guests there just in case we need to come back to them this is an i heart podcast guaranteed human