You're listening to After Action Report at Savage.move. Hey there, pre-averts. Welcome to After Action Report. This week I'm going to be talking with an Australian couple that found a service that would set up their fantasy, make their fantasy happen, and their fantasy, a gang bang. And what they got was a bespoke gang bang. I was amazed you will be too. Welcome to After Action Report, Ruby and Bruce. How are you? Very well, excited. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you too, Bruce. So who are you both? Tell us a little bit about yourselves. We are cisgender, heteroflexible Australians. We've been swinging for about 10 years and together that whole time. That's I guess, that's a O about you need to know about us. Those are all the relevant. All the relevant things. You tell. How long were you together before you moved into swinging? Well, we met via our professions. So we worked within the same sphere and it might be fair to say we were adversaries. So there was an interesting dynamic that was present from the start and the inevitable overtook us. So it was a heated rivalry, as we say now. Indeed, yes. Okay, so what is it that you tried? Why are you here on After Action Report? What's the new thing that you did you wanted to talk about? Well, we had, I guess, what we're calling a bespoke gang bang. Bespoke gang bang. So a tailored order. Absolutely. Very specific. Okay, so I assume this was Ruby's fantasy? No, I would beg to say it was probably my suggestion and my urging. It didn't take too much to encourage me, I guess. Okay, so why did you want to do this? What was the turn on? Ruby's sexual energy is truly magnetic and extraordinary and she's this amazing combination of savage independence and extraordinary sexiness. And the thing that has always excited me most about her is how strong her sexuality is. And I just have always felt that she needed more than a single man was capable of delivering. So, Bruce, is this like a kucky thing for you or are you more of a stag? But you enjoy watching Ruby with other men? Enjoy watching and participating. It definitely not a humiliation type thing. Although there's some appeal to that, of course, as well. And whose idea was it to get into swinging in the first place? I assume Bruce's. Is everything Bruce's idea? No, that was my idea. When we got together, we'd both come from very conservative relationships and I said, good news. If you're going to be with me, you get to do everything. So we decided to jump into everything immediately. Whenever we meet anyone in the lifestyle, Ruby's first question is, so who corrupted who? Because she wants to tell everyone that she corrupted me. So how long have you been planning this bespoke gang bang? It came about accidentally almost. We were traveling to another capital city and we started googling and looking for swing activities and came across a fellow who was part of the lifestyle but now is solely in the business of organizing bespoke gang bangs. Wait, so there's somebody whose business, who hung out a shingle, who sells this as a service, who's kind of a gang bang sommelier or gang bang. What is the person who works in the lobby of the hotel and gets to do the concierge? A gang bang concierge. Yes, exactly. So he has 200 or 250 gentlemen on a roster or in a register and you say how many gentlemen that you would like and what characteristics you would like them to have. Height, weight, cox size, anything you like. Oh my God. Yeah. And then he will send you a series of photographs and you can say yes, no, maybe and you just assemble yourself a little fantasy football team if you like. So one of the questions I'm supposed to ask is like what appealed to you about this and like I'm a dick fan. Like I assume you are Ruby and like the more dick the better. Sometimes not all the time. Sometimes one dick at a time is nice too. But specifically there's a lot of talk out there that gang bangs are this male fantasy that are projected onto women and that no woman would want a gang bang but you wanted a gang bang. So what about this fantasy appeals to you as a woman, as the center square in this gang bang? What was it? What was it for you besides tons of dick? Well, I mean, you can't go past the tons of dick, but I'm like, I'm a 40. I actually, for the purpose of this, I was a very late 30s lady and you can often feel a little invisible, I think in your late 30s, early 40s, but being absolutely the center of attention and the, but not just that, but the subject of all of this desire, you know, being there with all of these guys, super excited to see you touch you be with you, with you was really exciting. So there are different kinds of gang bangs. There's the gang bang where the woman is just being thrown around. There's the gang bang where the woman is like directing things, grabbing the dick she wants, ordering the guys around. What kind of gang bang was this? Well, because I was a first timer, I had what my host described as a vanilla gang bang, which I thought was hilarious, but you can order whatever kind of gang bang you like. So you can, if you want something a bit more physical, you can get slapped around, you can have your hair pulled, whatever. But he was telling me at one stage, he had five men climbing through a window naked for a lady who had a ravishment fantasy. And they weren't worried about the neighbors calling the police, seeing five men climb through their neighbor's window. And it sounded like it was, well, I mean, no one was under arrest at the time that I was there. So. And what was it like to look through the photographs? What was it like to order men for a gang bang like you were ordering, I don't know, Topos in a Spanish restaurant, you're ordering small plates or big dicks. What was that like? Well, I mean, it's really empowering because you can be as specific as you like. You could say I would like six men who are all over six foot tall, who are all gym bodies, who all have eight inch cocks and above. And I mean, you might have to wait a little longer for him to put it together. But it was nice to see that there are like all sorts of attractive men with all sorts of different, you know, age ranges and body shapes and sort of assembling all of that. So I had, you know, the young, nervous, cute sort of 20 year old and I had the, you know, sexy daddy types. And then there was like this whole range in the middle. And what did you choose? Oh, I like, I mean, I went from a little, I had a like a variety pack, I guess. OK, so were these guys volunteers or these sex workers? They pay a fee to be on a on the roster. And then there, you know, there's a website saying this lady is playing at this time and they can apply and say I'd like to play. You get vetted. You have to share STI results within two weeks of playing. And everybody's got references and the parties that they've been to before. So this fellow will tell you this person's been to eight of my parties. He's always behaved. It was just really safe and just easy and a lot of fun. So, Bruce, set the scene for us. So the men have been selected. The top has been ordered. The selection of different types of men are there. Where are we? Where did this happen? And what was it like to walk into that room? Well, we arrived first and it was at an apartment, private apartment in the city that we were visiting. Perhaps a little lower budget than we would have liked. This is a romantic. There's gonna be something romantic about a Sceezy apartment or a hotel room, right? Yeah, it was. I think it was somewhere between Sceezy and romantic. So it was functional, shall we say. And really got dressed first and looked absolutely stunning. I mean, everyone who saw her as they arrived, their jaws dropped. But she sequestered herself into the bedroom while the men arrived. And we had a soundtrack that we started and I really could hear everyone arriving and talking through the door, which she reported to me later. She found rather oddest parts of it and was gradually introduced to people. And then we started. And was it a big everybody altogether? Everything everywhere all at once? Or one at a time joining Ruby in the next room? No, everywhere all at once. Yeah, it was a lot. Another thing that people talk about when they talk about gangbanks is that like, this is no woman's fantasy. We know that's not true. There are women out there who have gangbank fantasies. This business wouldn't exist in Australia if there weren't women out there who had gangbank fantasies. And I think it's really interesting in telling that the guys pay to be on this roster, that they're not paid if they're on this roster, that they pay for the privilege of being on this roster. The other thing you hear about gangbanks is it's a way for men to be sexual with each other, that there's sort of this kind of bank shot homoeroticism, which is not to say like all men are secretly gay or all men want to get with each other, but there is a kind of like homoerotic camaraderie for the dudes, the straight dudes at a gangbank because you're all there, you're all naked. You all got your dicks out. You're all putting your dicks in her, but there's something about the vibe that's a turn on for all the guys and the guys are part of the turn on for all the guys. Bruce, is that true? Is that true for you? Oh, with that, yeah. I'm pretty straight, but this as Ruby likes to remind me there's something distinctly queer about swinging generally in this sort of experience specifically. We really liked it because actually in swinging, there's a lot of men who want to have sex with as many women as possible, and they sort of tolerate the other men. It's not part of the experience for them. But in this, as you say, it's part of the attraction, the closeness of the other men and being around a series of men who are comfortable touching each other. And not in a sex, but like if, I mean, without being crude. Be crude. It's the savage love cast and after act of being fucking crude. All right. Well, if you're going to put three dicks in someone, you've got to get close to each other in order to do that. Right. And you might bump dicks. That could happen, especially if there's a dick in a pussy and a dick in a butthole. And it's the same person's pussy and butthole. Those dicks are going to bump. Yeah. And people people who are into that rather than tolerating it is fabulous. OK, so how did it go? Like Ruby walks in, she looks amazing. The room isn't there. The apartment is as glamorous as you would have liked it to be. But like the action gives us a moment of the action. I mean, there were seven guys and Bruce, so you probably can't give us the play by play. We don't have enough time. There's not enough space on the internet for that. But just give us like the peak moment. There's always a peak moment at a sex party or even like a vanilla sexual experience. There's always a peak moment. What was the peak moment for you, Ruby? And was it the same as the peak moment for Bruce? I think at one stage, Bruce was taking some video, which everybody was very happy with as long as there was sort of non identifying, not showing anybody's faces, but I had, I think, two cocks in my mouth and one in one of my awesome one in my kind and it was fabulous. I want to say Ben there done that, but like I'm one cock in me short. So Bruce, what was your peak moment? I think if anything, it was perhaps just a very start seeing all of these men desiring, really looking the best. Yeah, that's there's that famous Casanova quote that maybe somebody might have made up, but the ultimate moment is climbing the stairs. It's getting to us and like everything that's about to happen. It's like being on the roller coaster and you're just right there before the ride starts. And that really often for me, climbing the stairs is the hottest moment. And then you wanted all to live up to the how hot it was climbing the stairs. But I feel you, Bruce, like everybody's standing there ready to get going, excited about what's about to happen. That's the climbing the stairs moment. Yeah, yeah, I thought like, but it was a 60 minute roller coaster and it didn't kill me. So I'm assuming this was a good experience. Yeah. It was wonderful. And what surprised us was how friendly and like those just sort of genuine camaraderie because no one's fucking the whole time. People are chatting and I love that some of these guys had seen each other at other parties. They're like, Hey, how are you? Blah, blah, blah, because it was really nice. Did these guys have wives or girlfriends? Is this like almost certainly. And they're doing this on the down low or they have hall passes for this specific roster there on or do you think that you facilitated a little infidelity that day? Possibly. But it's not your job to regulate other people's relationships or please. Sure. Other people and how they moved through the world with their dicks. Indeed. You came Ruby. Many times. Bruce, did you come? No. Were you worried that if you came, you'd kind of fall out like that post? Not regret, but just like the falling away of interest. Did you just want to just stay like super excited the whole time? And that's why you didn't come? Probably that that's my general experience anyway. Yeah. And the other guys come. Oh, yeah. A lot on you. Were there condoms everywhere? No, no, we had a bare party, but we all tested and shared results and did the whole thing. So much fun. Ten out of ten would write again. So you would do it again. I loved hearing about how it started. I want to hear about how it. When did you know when to call it? Like you had lots of orgasms. Was it just like when the last guy who wanted to come came? Then it was over or when did you like, when did the buzzer sound? When was it over? Well, I think I think most of the guys had come. And I sort of checked around because I'm a nice host. I was like, does anyone else want to come? And they, you know, everyone was sort of having sort of a little break. And we so we had a break and we had a chat. And then there was an invitation about, you know, do I want any more? And I'd been fucking for over an hour at that point. And I sort of said, no, that's probably enough for me. And it was great. Everyone was fine. Gang bang one off experience or do you want to do this again? Oh, I definitely want to do it again. I mean, I'd like to be an advocate for all women in their 40s, 50s beyond have a gang bang. Like you will. If you want to have a gang bang. If you want to, I mean, carefully consider it. And can I ask how much it cost? If you're just paying the organizer to facilitate and he makes money from the guys who pay him to be on this roster, was there a charge for you two or was it grottis for you and a charge for the dudes? Oh, it was a hundred dollars just to make sure that we were serious about turning up. But he paid for the apartment and the snacks and the drinks. I was going to say, does he do this for gay dudes? A hundred dollars, he's perfectly reasonable. But like, gay dudes don't need any help getting seven naked guys to fuck. Well, exactly. I mean, one of the killers of gang bangs are the logistics and somebody else will just take care of that for you. So any advice for anybody thinking about doing this for themselves besides get on a plane and fly to Australia, because where else does this kind of business exist? Well, we hear that he has international funds. So who come in? Is it for this? For this service? All right. So besides getting to Australia as quickly as you can and maybe getting an Australian passport and getting the fuck out of the United States as quick as you can, any advice for people besides go for it? You already gave that advice. Any advice, maybe logistical, emotional? What was your aftercare like? What did you need after it was over? But any advice in those areas? Oh, two things. Have a great conversation with clear conversation with your partner beforehand and make sure that we agreed we are both deciding to do this together. And we can call it whenever we want for any reason. At any point, if one of us stood up and said, I don't want to do this anymore, then it's clothes on bags out the door and that we wouldn't hold it against each other because we both decided that we'd gone to do the thing together. And then two hours after the gang bang, I'd booked a restaurant that served amazing Chinese food and we just went and drank beer and ate dumplings and felt like felt like rock stars. So do that too. I really want to put a pin in that like anybody can call it because people get in their heads if I'm having that first threesome and I give my partner permission to call it, I have permission to call it. But if my partner calls it, I'm really upset because when am I ever going to have a threesome again? And the answer is if you don't let your partner call it, if they don't feel comfortable, you will never have a threesome ever again. But if you empower your partner to call it, to end things, if they're not feeling comfortable, you will very likely have a threesome with that partner again because they trust you once things are going to respect their feelings, their comfort level. And you're likely to have another gang bang if if things had gone south and you had wanted to call it of one of the guys or a couple of guys had made you feel uncomfortable and you just wanted to end it because it wasn't the right group. You might have set this up again in the future. But if Bruce had had a meltdown, if you tried to call it, you never would have trusted Bruce with this ever again. That's right. There's plenty more dick in the sea, Dan. Dick is not a vanishing resource. That's right. There's an abundance of dick out there. And I got to say, I love that it was only 100 bucks because if you had paid $20,000 to set this up, then you would have felt like, oh, my God, that's all money wasted if we have to call it. But it being just 100 bucks. Absolutely. And our philosophy is always it'll be a funny story one day, right? And comedy is just tragedy plus time. Ruby and Bruce, thank you so much for coming on After Action Report. I'm really glad it was a good experience. And I hope you have another one soon. Thanks so much, Dan. Thanks, Dan. Love you to me too. Thanks again to Ruby and Bruce. If you have an amazingly adventurous and perverted story to share with us something new that you just tried and you need to talk to someone about it, who better to talk to about it than me? Write up your new experience and send it to qatsavage.love. We are reading all of your emails and we will be getting in touch with the folks we want to come on the show. Thanks for listening, everybody. Have another After Action Report for you next Friday. After Action Report. This episode of the Savage Love Cast is brought to you by Load Boost by VB Health. 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