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Go Birds! 2026 Draft Preview: How high would Eagles take a safety?

34 min
Apr 13, 20265 days ago
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Summary

This episode previews the 2026 NFL Draft with a focus on safety prospects for the Philadelphia Eagles. The host analyzes whether the Eagles should prioritize the safety position early in the draft, examining top prospects like Caleb Downs and Dylan Thiena Min, while discussing the team's defensive needs and draft strategy.

Insights
  • Safety is unlikely to be a first-round priority for the Eagles despite being a significant defensive need, due to poor salary-to-production value compared to other positions
  • The Eagles value versatile defensive players who can line up in multiple positions and create turnovers, reflecting Vic Fangio's defensive scheme preferences
  • Current safety roster depth is uncertain with Andrew McCuba as the only locked-in starter, creating a need for developmental prospects in later rounds
  • Elite safeties like Caleb Downs would require trading up, but the positional economics make it unlikely the Eagles would invest premium draft capital
  • Turnover creation is a critical evaluation metric for Eagles safety prospects, as the secondary struggled with interceptions in the regular season
Trends
NFL teams increasingly value positional versatility in safeties, with preference for players who can play slot, box, and deep coverageScheme fit and coaching ability to develop players is becoming more important than raw draft position for defensive back evaluationTeams are more analytically sophisticated in evaluating draft value, reducing the likelihood of reaches on positions with lower salary-to-production ratiosTurnover creation metrics are becoming primary evaluation criteria for secondary prospects across the leaguePhysical traits and athletic measurables are weighted heavily when positional value is uncertain, particularly for safetiesLater-round safety selections are increasingly viewed as developmental investments rather than immediate contributorsDefensive coordinators' scheme preferences are driving more specific prospect evaluations rather than generic positional rankings
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Philadelphia Eagles
Primary subject of draft analysis and strategic planning discussion throughout the episode
Ohio State University
Alma mater of top safety prospect Caleb Downs, discussed as major college program
University of Oregon
College program of safety prospect Dylan Thiena Min, discussed as source of NFL talent
Texas Christian University
College program of safety prospect Bud Clark, discussed for his interception production
University of Maryland
College program of safety prospect Jalen Husky, discussed for elite physical traits
University of Miami
College program of safety prospects Jacoby Thomas and Keyonte Scott
Louisiana State University
College program of safety prospect A.J. Halsey, discussed as prospect with pro-ready traits
University of Southern California
College program of safety prospects Kamiah Ramsey and Bishop Fitzgerald
University of Texas
College program of safety prospect Michael Taaffe, discussed for interception production
University of Arizona
College program of safety prospect Genesis Smith, discussed for athletic traits
Penn State University
College program of safety prospect Keeley Wheatley, discussed for unique physical traits
Kansas City Chiefs
Referenced as opponent where Andrew McCuba made significant plays in his rookie season
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Referenced as opponent where Andrew McCuba recorded an interception in his rookie season
NFL.com
Source of scouting reports, athletic scores, and prospect evaluations cited throughout episode
People
Caleb Downs
Top-ranked safety prospect in 2026 draft class, discussed as unlikely but possible trade-up target
Dylan Thiena Min
Second-tier safety prospect with elite athleticism, discussed as potential trade-down option
Andrew McCuba
Current Eagles safety with locked-in roster spot but uncertain starting job for 2026 season
Vic Fangio
Defensive scheme architect whose preferences for versatile, turnover-creating safeties drive prospect evaluation
Emmanuel McNeil Warren
Tall, physical safety prospect discussed as potential complement to McCuba's undersized frame
Bud Clark
Six-year senior with 15 interceptions, discussed despite age concerns due to turnover production
Jalen Husky
Elite physical traits prospect with 11 interceptions, discussed as strong fit for Eagles scheme
A.J. Halsey
Young prospect with pro-ready traits and ballhawking ability, discussed as ideal Eagles fit
Reed Blankenship
Former Eagles safety referenced for interception production and depth chart context
Quinyon Mitchell
Young cornerback discussed as foundational secondary piece alongside potential safety additions
Cooper DeJean
Young cornerback discussed as foundational secondary piece alongside potential safety additions
Tariq Woolen
Young cornerback with upside potential discussed in context of secondary development
Jalen Carter
Referenced as example of Eagles getting pro-bowl production on rookie salary in draft strategy
Jordan Davis
Referenced as example of Eagles getting pro-bowl production on rookie salary before expensive extension
Nick Sirianni
Coaching philosophy referenced regarding player evaluation and preference for effort-oriented players
Elliott
Co-host of the podcast episode discussing draft strategy and safety prospects
James
Co-host of the podcast episode discussing draft strategy and safety prospects
Quotes
"They've gotten pro bowl play out of Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, Quininian Mitchell, Cooper Dijine, Jalex Hunt last year for sure, right? Those guys have given them pro bowl play on rookie salaries"
HostEarly in episode
"The issue with safety is, safety's don't get paid a ton of money. Now look, if you're a top five guy to position, yes, you're getting paid, but read, blank and chip has provided pretty good safety play for them over the past few years"
HostMid-episode
"Caleb Downs is an alpha who brings immense juice on each snap. He's at his best when deployed near the line as a box safety or big nickel back"
NFL.com Scouting ReportProspect discussion
"Mr. Gimme that is a throwback safety with a compact, densely muscled frame and a pro feel for reading the field. He's a rare blend of ballhawking and enforcer"
NFL.com Scouting Report on A.J. HalseyLate in episode
"I think they would like to take someone late to develop. I think they will prioritize unique physical traits and hope Fangio can coach him up"
HostConclusion
Full Transcript
What's going on everybody? Let's go. Let's get into it. Let's go on the clock with another edition of the Go Birds on the clock 2026 draft series previewing, a draft that is now less than two weeks away. So excited to talk today as today is a big shift in the draft series, right? Last week focused on the offense, every position on the offensive side of the ball. And I think that's the position the Eagles will focus on or the side of the ball, I guess, I should say that they will focus on in the draft. I do think that they want cheap starters on offense after they've had cheap starters on defense the past few years. And if you listen to the mock draft from yesterday, went all offense focused on the offensive side of the ball. But today, Monday, a fresh start to the week, a fresh side of the ball, we're going to look at what is probably the biggest need on the defensive side of the ball safety. Now, the interesting thing about the safety position is it's probably not going to be the first pick that they take in the draft. It wouldn't surprise me actually if they didn't address the position until later in the draft or if they don't address it at all, right? Because if you look at the safety position, they have, well, let's take a look at the depth chart and where they are. So right now, they have Andrew McCuba. We know he's coming back second year, really up and down rookie year, made some big plays. The Chiefs game is one, certainly you'd think of, I believe he had an interception against Tampa Bay if I'm not mistaken. So he had those big moments. And that was kind of what he was projected to be, right? He was an undersized safety that created turnovers that was around the ball. And that's what he proved to be. Now, the injury concerns coming into the draft also proved to be true as he ends up missing the end of the season with a foot injury. So they go into next season with Andrew McCuba as really the only locked in guy that day one, you know, is going to be getting starting snaps at safety in training camp. Will he definitely start? I don't think his job is locked in. His roster spot is locked in. But if they add a safety infrage and see if they take someone in the draft, if Marcus Epps out plays him in camp, I don't think Fangio is going to play someone just because of draft stock. We've seen that, right? They benched Shahad midway through the season to put Nicobi in there. So I don't think McCuba's job is locked in, but his roster spot is definitely locked in. So you have Andrew McCuba locked in roster spot. After that, Marcus Epps, so I think is a good chance of making the roster didn't get a lot of guaranteed money. I think it was only a little over 100,000. So his roster spot probably not locked in stone, but I think he'll probably make it. Michael Carter is going to try to make the transition from corner to safety. I think they believe he can do it, but unproven. And then you have the bottom of the roster guys, Andre Sam, TJ Gray, who's more of just a special teams player in Brandon Johnson out of Oregon, who kind of moves all around, but is I believe going to compete at safety this off season. So going into the draft, they need, they need safeties, right? Because really similar to the tight end position in the way where how many of those players we just named, do you think will definitely be on the roster in 2027? McCuba has the best chance, obviously, but Epps, Carter, Sam, Gray, Johnson, they could all be gone. So I think they need someone at safety as well, even not just, not just like to start an impact, but like to develop and potentially have as a contributing player in 2027. Now, the tough thing about drafting a safety early is that a key of the first and second round to the third round two, to an extent, but really that first round, you want to get a player that is playing at an all pro slash pro bowl level on a minimal salary, right? That's been the benefit of the Eagles defense. They've gotten pro bowl play out of Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, Quinian Mitchell, Cooper Dijine, Jalex Hunt last year for sure, right? Those guys have given them pro bowl play. You could argue Moro Jomo's given it to them on rookie salaries and the money they save by getting that level of play over, I mean, look what they're paying Jordan Davis now, right? Look what they're going to pay Jalen Carter. Look what they'll eventually be paying Quinian. They've been paying that on the offensive side of ball to get those type of product, that type of production on defense. They've been getting key positions playing well at cheap rates. The issue with safety is, safety's don't get paid a ton of money. Now look, if you're a top five guy to position, yes, you're getting paid, but read, blank and chip has provided pretty good safety play for them over the past few years. Read, blank and chip got a eight and a half million dollar deal. I think if you're drafting somebody at 23, maybe you're moving up, we'll talk about Caleb Downs and Dylan Thiena, man out of Oregon. If you're moving up for one of them, you're really not paying them much less than what you're paying like you would have paid read, blank and chip. That's the issue with taking safety early, as you're not getting the bang for your buck that you are. If they were to draft an edge at 23, let's say they do go defense in the first round. If they were to draft an edge at 23 and he plays at a high level, then you're really saving money off of production versus what you're paying. You've seen that at corner, obviously with Quinn, Yon and Cooper. That is why I think taking a safety early is just not something they would like to do. You don't want to say never the board breaks your way. Let's say for some odd reason, Caleb Downs is there at 23 and you go, okay, this is a guy that can be the best safety in the NFL. You are getting some bang for your buck, but I think ultimately they would not reach for a safety if Caleb Downs is off the board. I think early, unlikely, and we'll talk about some of the early prospects either way, but I think most of the guys we're going to talk about here are guys you're targeting in the fourth round, fifth round guys that I think there's, look, there's some intriguing safeties in this class. Tall safeties, safeties that create turnover, safeties that can play corner, that can move from a deep safety to an in the box safety. There are intriguing safeties. I just think they're going to focus later in the draft than they are early on. What are they looking for in a safety? Right? Like where do they line their safeties up? We know Vic Fangio likes to use a lot of too high safeties. Of course, after the snap, he'll rotate one down sometimes like they're, you know, certainly he gets creative, but you look at where they lined up their safeties last year. So Andrew McCuba last year lined up 487 snaps at free safety, 119 snaps in the box, and then 66 snaps in the slot. Reed Blankenship also much more primarily deep, 814 snaps deep, 58 snaps in the slot, which I don't remember any of those, but I'll take pro football focus as word for it. And then 190 snaps in the box. So they move their guys around. So when I'm looking at these safety prospects, kind of like with offensive line, how I need an offensive lineman to be young, I need them to be athletic, and I need them to have played multiple positions ideally, right? I love an offensive tackle prospect that has played guard or guard that is kicked out to tackle, right? So I think with safety, when I was going through the list of guys that I thought would interest the Eagles, you're just not going to see a lot of guys on this list that played 85% of their snaps at one spot. I like guys that can go up and play nickel if needed, guys that can go into the box if needed. And then of course you want a guy ultimately now they do play a lot of split safeties. So sideline to sideline speed is maybe not as important. You do want a guy that has lined up single high and has shown the ability to get to the sideline and that sideline to sideline speed from a single high look. So a lot of these guys are going to be playing multiple positions or multiple parts of the field, creating turnovers. And then as always, because we know the Eagles really value this, you're looking for unique physical traits, right? Like a tall safety, a super fast safety, those type of things. So with that being said, let's get into it. Let's start to look at some of these safety prospects. So even though, like I said, I think it's unlikely they will take a safety in the first round. The cream of the crop in this class at safety is Caleb Downs out of Ohio State. We got a four emoji player here. He's young, not even 22, just over 21 years old. He plays all over the field, 240 snaps, 241 snaps in the box, 146 snaps at slot. So almost 30, 30, 30, 30, in terms of 33, 33, 33, 33, in terms of where he is lining up, right? So he gets the versatile emoji. He gets the nickel emoji, because I think he could line up in the slot and play nickel corner at the NFL. And then, so the turnover emoji, I was thinking of like an apple turnover, like a pastry for some reason, because what do you put for a turnover, right? I was thinking a robber, but they didn't really have those type of emojis. So I'm putting the pie emoji for a guy that creates turnovers, right? Pie is good. You like it. And turnover, you know, a bit of a stretch here, but it's what I came up with. So a four emoji player there with Caleb Downs, but he is somebody that they will likely have to trade up to get, right? I can't imagine him falling all the way to 23. Now, would he fall in two distance where they could trade up for him? Maybe, right? You never know. Like I said, all those things I just said about safety and bang for your buck. I mean, GMs are smarter now than they used to be, right? There's not as many David Gettelmans out there. So I could picture where will Caleb Downs falls, but he is an awesome, awesome player. So 256 tackles last year, 16 tackles for a loss, one and a half sacks, three force fumbles, six pass deflections, six interceptions, doing all this in three seasons. So while six interceptions is not a uniquely high number, you'll hear safeties on this list that have more than that. I do like to each season, like constantly taking the ball away. So the scouting report, according to NFL.com, quote, productive high effort safety with three years of starting experience at big games at Alabama and Ohio State. Downs is an alpha who brings immense juice on each snap. He's at his best when deployed near the line as a box safety or big nickel back. He'll gamble a little bit as a runner, a run defender, but he makes more than enough disruptive plays near the line of scrimmage to make up for it. He's fluent in man or zone over the first two levels and is rarely fooled by play action or misdirection. While he's quick to close and strike underneath, there are hints of caution that prevent him from making more plays on the football. Downs isn't the biggest, fastest, or most versatile player, but he constantly put his stamps on games, end quote. So that just screams like a Nick Siriani, Vic Fangio player. And here's what I'd say about the chances of the Eagles drafting downs. I think they're obviously very small, right? But let's go through this world. Right? Like the mock draft that I did on Sunday in the mock draft simulator, there was a run on receivers, right? Like a lot of receivers went early. Let's say Ty Simpson makes his way into the top 15 for some reason. So there's receivers, there's quarterbacks, offensive linemen go, Kenyan Sadiq goes, is there a world where, and this is no defensive guys really yet, right? Like edge players, April Reese, right? Like there, I do think there is a world where Caleb Down makes it to 15-ish, right? And if he does, if you're the Eagles, do you sit there and debate if you want to trade up for him? Now the argument to trade up for Caleb Downs is imagine a secondary with Quinyan, Cooper and Caleb Downs as your foundational pieces, right? Like you're going to be paying Quinyan and Cooper a lot of money. Caleb Downs will get paid if he's as awesome as he could be, but it's not cornerback money, right? But a tone setter on the defense, a difference maker, you get like a stud guy in your secondary there. I mean, you're talking about having one of the best defenses in the NFL and certainly one of the best secondaries, if not the best secondary in terms of like elite young talent. And we're not even including Tariq Wollin in there who we've talked about a bunch, could be great, could be not, but certainly an upside there. Would you, if you see a run at receivers, let's say that, you know, Kaden Proctor is gone, Monroe Freeling is gone, and you're sitting there at 23 and you're saying a lot of guys we like are not going to be there. So if we don't trade up for Caleb Downs and we sit at 23, maybe we're talking about trading back, would you trade a third to move up six spots and get Caleb Downs? I think ultimately you end the first round with a stud player, a personality that like is a foundational piece for your defense. I can see it. I just don't think they would do it. So as much as Caleb Downs would truly be like, I mean, a difference maker for them on defense, I just think the position, the cost, the likelihood doesn't seem likely Caleb Downs will be an eagle. So next up, a potentially more likely eagle, maybe this is a trade down from 23 player. I don't think they would just straight up take him at 23 reading mock drafts. It seems like he is kind of in between that end of the first round early second, but you know, some drafts have him top 20, some drafts have him at the bottom of the first round, Dylan Thiena Min out of Oregon. So first of all, you get the exciting whites back together, right? You get him and you replace read blank and ship with Dylan Thiena Min, but terms of snaps all over the field, not as much in the slot as Caleb Downs, 240 snaps deep, 434 snaps in the box. So much more in the box than he is deep 118 snaps at slot corner. So 21.7 years old. So he'll be 22 by the time the season begins, but still relatively young. He gets the baby emoji. He gets the versatile emoji, although not as much as Caleb Downs, but he did still line up all over the field, the nickel emoji, 118 snaps in slot, and he also gets the pie emoji for turnover. So the exact same emoji set as Caleb Downs. And interestingly enough, nfl.com had him as the number one athlete in the draft at the safety position in terms of athletic scores. So super athletic, young crates, turnovers all over the field, 306 tackles, 10 tackles for a loss, two sacks, two force fumbles, 16 pass deflections, eight interceptions. So more interceptions, same amount of pass deflections, more sacks, more tackles than Caleb Downs. So what do you need to know about Theanamon? Well, Scouting Report, according to nfl.com, quote, savvy three-year starter with nfl size, speed and alignment versatility. Theanamon is an extension of his defensive coordinator, aligning and adjusting the secondary to motion and pre-snap chefs. He's an instinctive, instinctive, rangy safety who can roll down into big nickel or robber positioning. He has a good feel for play design and route concepts and zone, but his average change of direction to match breaks in man. He's not a big dump or near the line, but he rushes into the action with a relentless pursuit that should allow him to keep stacking high scores in the tackle columns. Theanamon checks important boxes for teams looking to add versatile playmakers in the secondary end quote. So a lot of the same things with Caleb Downs applied to Dylan Theanamon. I don't think they would take him at 23. I like the player. You watch him and you can see how he does impact games. I think that part in there is very true about it. It felt like a lot of his highlights. He's just flying in and he's an effort guy. And Siriani, as we know, likes guys that run to the football. And I guess I should say Fangio too. And I think Caleb Downs and Theanamon both check that box. Caleb Downs would impact Eagles defense in a big way. I think Theanamon would as well. But I don't think you're trading up from maybe if you trade back and like there's no one else there, like you just take them because he feels like a, I think Caleb Downs and Theanamon both have high floors. But I don't see the high ceiling of a kid with Theanamon that Caleb Downs has. So those are the two safeties that seem to be going early. Definitely Caleb Downs unlikely to be Eagles, but in a world where they shock the world, I wanted to talk to you guys about. So next up, let's talk about that second group of safeties, right? I think that this guy also potentially a first round guy, but I don't think viewed as going as high as either other two. So let's talk about Emmanuel McNeil Warren out of Toledo. And when you talk about special physical traits, he certainly brings that six, three and a half, almost six, four, 201 pounds. So tall, lean, long gets the tree emoji just turned, he just turned 22. So it gets the baby emoji in versatile as well as he lined up deep. He lined up in the box, lines up its slot, not as much, so not viewed as a guy that can go up and do that, but can play in the box and can't play deep. So like I said, six, three and a half, 201 pounds stat wise, 214 tackles, 11 tackles for a loss, one sack, nine force fumbles, love that force fumble number. Like that's taught, you're talking about a guy that gets to the ball, punches it out, you know, Nick will love that 15 past deflections and five interceptions in four seasons. So it gets the turnover emoji as well because of all those force fumbles, not as many interceptions, but does force the ball out. So the scouting report on him quote, long downhill safety capable of bolstering a team's run defense and playing enforcer over the middle. McNeil Warren is a most is most valuable when playing near the line of scrimmage or in a robber positioning. He anticipates well in coverage and is quick to close on receivers, but will need to be protected by scheme to prevent speed mismatches. He's urgent in run support and has a feel for slipping blocks slash meeting runners early in the carry. He's a rangey tackler, but needs to quiet his feet when diagnosing and flowing downhill to tackle McNeil Warren might be pigeonholed schematically, but he's good at his job end quote. So for me, again, love that he gets the ball and forces it out. Five interceptions for a season isn't amazing, but you know, he is getting the ball away. You look at that. That's 14 forced interceptions or forced turnovers in a way in four seasons. I think an interesting question about Emil Emmanuel McNeil Warren is how much are you drafting based off of macuba and how much are you just taking the best guy because clearly with macuba size, and I know this isn't exactly like receivers where you don't want two small ones, their safety is not the same, but like you got to love the idea of the size of Emmanuel McNeil Warren next to, uh, next to macuba, just in terms of getting some big enforcer out there. I know macuba is a big hitter. He likes to get in and do it, but he's undersized and you can see that he's gotten hurt trying to be that enforcer. Emmanuel McNeil Warren has the body size can clearly put on muscle, but has the body size to be a true enforcer for them over the middle of the field. So I do like the idea of putting him with macuba. I think physically they play well off of each other. Macuba can come up and play the slot if needed. Emmanuel McNeil Warren can't do that as much, so you still have that skill set at the safety position. So like the idea of pairing him with macuba in terms of them complimenting each other. Uh, next up, a guy I really like as a player, but the only issue is he is on the older side. So bud Clark at a TCU 160 snaps deep, 250 snaps in the box, 303 snaps at slot. So he can certainly play man coverage. Uh, so he gets the versatile emoji. He gets the nickel emoji in a big time way because he could definitely go up there and do it. Six, one, 188 pounds gets the tree emoji, 15 interceptions in five seasons. I literally wrote that down and went back to check to make sure I got that right. 15 interceptions. Like he gets the ball right and 21 past deflection. So he's around the football a ton. The only issue is going to be 24 years old. I mean, that's just, that's a old guy to draft in the first round. Like it just is, and I think how he would stay away from it. Now six year senior, uh, so I guess it was actually six seasons, but regardless, uh, here is the scouting report on bud Clark quote, a six year senior Clark's traits won't pop, but his tape most certainly well. Clark is a coverage versatile safety in a cornerbacks body with the talent to range over the top or man up on the slide. He plays with an overriding desire to do everything all at once, which produces spectacular takeaways and occasional breakdowns, but the good outweighs the bad. He triggers downhill and run support and tackles with proper technique, but a lack of size could lead to broken tackle slash durability concerns. He might need to acclimate to the speed skill of his opponents, but his instincts and ball skills give him a good chance to punish mistakes at the next level as an alignment flexible option. End quote. So it's the interceptions like that is what stands out about bud Clark. One thing the Eagles struggled with last year in the secondary was creating turnovers. Quinn, Yon and Cooper for as awesome as they are. They don't come away with a ton of picks. Obviously Cooper, pretty big one in the Super Bowl and Quinn Yon's done it in the playoffs, but in the regular season, they don't come away with interceptions. Reed Blankenship, while he maybe was not the special talent that Cooper and Quinn Yon were, he did come away with interceptions. He did. Now the concern with bud Clark is do they feel he can, he can play safety all the time because again, he does go up and play slot quite a bit. We know that Cooper is going to be in the slot and they don't need that and we know McCuba can do it. So at the end of the day, does he fit with McCuba? That's something they would have to decide, but the amount of interceptions he has definitely, definitely noteworthy. So bud Clark added TCU in on him as a player. Don't maybe love to fit with McCuba and concerned about the fact that he's 24 years old, but the interception number that's hard to ignore. So on the other side, we're going to get into some more of these safeties. Talk about one of my favorite prospects and keep looking at a position that again, later in the draft, they could address. So that'll be on the other side, but first a word from our sponsors. Okay, let's take a look at some other safeties in this draft class and start off with the prospect I really like because he has a elite physical traits, six to 201 pounds and B, he forces the ball out with 11 interceptions and that is Jalen Husky out of Maryland. So lines up all over the field, 349 snaps deep, 211 snaps in the box, 111 snaps in the slot. Almost 23 years old. So don't love that a bit on the older side, but again, six to lines up all over the field, complain nickel. So he gets the nickel emoji, um, diversitility emoji, the pie emoji and the tree emoji. That's a quality set of emojis right there. But again, 11 interceptions, that's a high level number, especially with only three years as a starter. So the scouting report on Husky quote, three years starting split field safety with adequate size, but deficient speed. Husky piled up interceptions showing his ball skills and instincts. However, he's slow to accelerate from transitions and lacks quality makeup speed. So receivers can get open and stay open while he's forced to match them. He's not a thumper, but does his job near the line of scrimmage as a run defender. Husky's ball protection and willingness in run support will be a counter, will be counterbalanced by his lack of speed, short area, quickness and coverage. A back end roster spot could be his ceiling. So again, has the size, speed is an issue there, but the amount of interceptions there just stands out to me and his size. So I'm very interested in him as a player and if he's going to be a later round pick, I think he could be someone that you wills are very interested in. Next up, Jacoby Thomas out of Miami, six, one, 211 pounds, not super athletic, 20th in the NFL.com athleticism score. And he's someone that now later in his college career was better taken care of the ball or taking away the ball, has nine interceptions in his college career, five of them coming last year. Now he did play quite a bit of college football. He'll be 23, 23 when the season begins, which is a concern, but again, tall forces of ball away. Those are qualities I like in a safety. Scouting report, quote, a productive 50 year safety prospect. Thomas is wired to play forward and race into action wherever it is present. He overflows pursuit and has too many miss or broken tackles on his stat sheet, but his impact against the run is a net positive. He has good ball protection, but is fairly average in coverage. He can be way too quick to overlap or bite on bait, which allows receivers to get behind him from single high and split safety alignments. Thomas has the potential to develop into a starter as a likely middle round pick, end quote. So again, plays deep, gets up into the box as the, as the scouting report says there, and there are definitely some things that you would hope can, you can coach out of him, right? Like his, his willingness to bite on eye candy, right? That's something Fangio and, and Joe Caspel have to work on him. We'll have to work on it with, but I like his willingness to hit. I like his ability to get the ball away and then you coach up the rest out of him. So I like him. Now this next player is viewed as a hired drafted guy. Now the issue is he plays mostly slot and some people think he will just end up there and he very well could. And if he does, then it's not a great fit for the Eagles. But let's talk about Keyonte Scott out of Miami. Almost 500 snaps in the slot last year, 196 snaps deep. He is viewed as a nickel corner by most people, but I'm talking about in the safety position because that is, you know, he, he, he is projected to potentially play there as well. So an issue with him, he might be, he, I mean, not might be, he will be 25 years old when the season begins, which is wild. I mean, that is, that is an old player there. He played six seasons of college football. So 511, 193 pounds, three interceptions in six seasons, doesn't take the ball away. But 197 tackles, like I said, 19 tackles for a loss, six sacks, two force fumbles, 17 pass deflections. He played a lot of college football. So the scouting report on Scott quote, according to NFL.com, Scott's play style and tackle production resemble that of a will linebacker. He's edgy and urgent near the line with an ability to slip or play off blocks. He can snuff out run plays before they get started. Scott lacks ball production due to inconsistent break anticipation and route squeeze, but he can twitch and trigger to close windows, wrap and finish. He keeps yards after contact to a minimum. Scott's blitz talent off the edge makes him a value added rusher. He's an older prospects and needs to play in a scheme that allows him to keep his eyes forward, but Scott's football character should make him a team favorite as a starting nickel back. End quote. So it will be how the Eagles view him, right? They liked macuba, who many people thought is a nickel, playing at safety. Maybe it's too similar to macuba to draft, but on a team that does need guys that are ready to contribute. And I think this is in some ways a flawed way to draft, but he played six years of college football, big time programs. You hear in there, right? He's good football IQ and he's 20, 25 years old. So if they view him as someone that can just be on the field and maybe a number of different roles, maybe you put him out there when you're going heavy with defensive backs, maybe you do try him at safety next day, Andrew, macuba, again, an older player, but I like him as a, as a prospect. Okay. Next up, a J Halsey out of LSU just over 22 years old, almost 500 snaps deep, 134 snaps in the box, 68 snaps at slot corner, and then six snaps at corner. So did line up all over the field, a six foot, 215 pounds, 10 interceptions in four seasons. And honestly, like, I, you know, we've talked about this enough yet, right? Like, I like that he, I like that he has his best football ahead of him because he's still young. I like that there's upside because of that. I like that he takes away the ball. But what I love is this nickname. They give him on NFL.com. So the scouting report, quote, Halsey, AKA Mr. Gimme that you hear that? I like that nickname, Mr. Gimme that is a throwback safety with a compact, densely muscled frame and a pro feel for reading the field. He's a rare blend of ballhawking and enforcer who can scurry into passing lanes for takeaways or run through a receiver to break up a pass. His pattern recognition and instincts are top notch and he's decisive in his reactions. Alaka sustained top end speed could create mismassage in man in man coverage. He's more effective playing forward than he is at guarding large spaces and deeper coverages. He's rock steady as a finisher, but sees the mistackle total tick higher as an open field tackler. Halsey's frame and gamer pro ready though, he projects is a good NFL starter in a zone heavy scheme. I love that. Like this feels like an Eagles player, right? Takes the ball away, big time college program, good football instincts, good in zone, you know, maybe not a single high safety, but the Eagles do like to play a lot of split safeties. So I think he fits for the Eagles and at only 22, just over 22 years old, you know, I think he's a good fit for the Eagles. So I like him a lot as a player the Eagles could target. All right, next up, let's talk about Kamiah Ramsey out of USC. Just over, or just over 21 and a half years old, six foot, much like a lot of these guys played deep, played in the box, but 164 snaps at slot. So you like that. Only two interceptions doesn't get the pie emoji, but 13 past deflections does show me he is around the ball quite a bit quote, scouting report, versatile safety prospect with solid size. Ramsey saw a heavier workload at Nickelback in 2025 after splitting time at all three safety spots in 2024. He plays with average eyes and space and good break anticipation when matched up in man. He was adequate covering the slot in college, but might not have enough short area burst and athleticism to do the same in the pros. He needs to close downhill and run support with greater urgency when playing from depth. His tackle finishing saw a massive improvement in 2025, but with multiple games missed in consecutive seasons, Ramsey's draft stock could take a hit due to durability concerns. And that's the concern there, right? That's why he's got the ambulance emoji. He just, he has trouble staying on the field, which obviously is going to be a concern for the Eagles. But the fact he can do multiple things could be a backup at a lot of spots. You get them late in the draft. I think there could be some interest there. So a few other safeties I have interesting, we won't dive into his deep, but Genesis Smith out of Arizona, six to 202 pounds. I really like that ultra athletic lines up all over the fields. A key Wheatley out of Penn State, six three. So it gets the tree emoji has that unique physical quality. Michael, Michael Taff out of Texas, you know, seven interceptions, 14 pass deflections all over the field. So, and then I will actually, the one more, I will name Bishop Fitzgerald out of USC, 10 interceptions in five seasons, five of which last year. So, you know, the safety position, like I kind of started out by saying, I don't think it's a, it's a situation that I think, don't think it's a position they will heavily prioritize in this year's draft. I think they would like to take someone late to develop. I think they will prioritize unique physical traits and hope Fangio can coach him up, but ultimately you're not getting your bang for your buck at the position. So that's the question I would ask you, would you trade up for Caleb Downs? Would you, would you give up a third to go and get them? Or would you consider taking a Dylan Thiena Min or an Emmanuel McNeil Warren at 23 trading back top of the second round, that type of thing, or are you just focusing on offense fully? So that's really a question they have to ask themselves with the board breaks a certain way. They don't have the guys that they like, are they willing to just go for a high end safety and just stack up on young talent in the, in the secondary. All right, that'll do it for today's NFL draft podcast. Thank you guys so much for listening. I'm going to be exciting week talking about the defense edge rushers, linebackers, they don't really need those. We'll talk about them either way and the draft is ticking closer and closer. So thank you guys so much for listening. Until next time, he's Elliott. I'm James talk to you guys later.