By Order of the Faithfuls: There’s a Snake in Scotland (Traitors Recap)

Hi, it's Jill Winterstein, host of the Spirit Daughter Podcast, where we talk about astrology, natal charts, and how to step into your most vibrant life. And today I'm talking with my dear friend, Krista Williams. It can change you in the best way possible. Dance with the change, dance with the breakdowns. The embodiment of Pisces intuition with Capricorn power moves. So I'm like delusionally proud of my chart. Listen to the Spirit Daughter Podcast starting on February 24th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. Ready for a different take on Formula One? Look no further than No Grip, a new podcast tackling the culture of motor racing's most coveted series. Join me, Lily Herman, as we dive into the underexplored pockets of F1, including the astrology of the current grid, the story of the sport's most consequential driver's strike, and plenty of other mishaps, scandals, and sagas that have made Formula One a delightful, decadent, dumpster fire for more than 75 years. Listen to No Grip on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Amanda Knox, and in the new podcast Doubt, the case of Lucy Letby, we unpack the story of an unimaginable tragedy that gripped the UK in 2023. But what if we didn't get the whole story? I've just been made to fit. The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapsed. What if the truth was disguised by a story we chose to believe? Oh my God, I think she might be innocent. Listen to Doubt, The Case of Lucy Letby on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton Eckerd. In 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor. But here's the thing. Bachelor fans hated him. If I could press a button and rewind it all, I would. That's when his life took a disturbing turn. A one-night stand would end in a courtroom. The media is here. this case has gone viral. The dating contract. Agree to date me, but I'm also suing you. This is unlike anything I've ever seen before. I'm Stephanie Young. Listen to Love Trapped on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everybody. Welcome to another episode of By Order of the Faithfuls. And I'm so excited to be hear this was a great episode with my bestie, Tam. Hey, good morning. Good morning. Have we talked since you went and met, walked with the monks? No, we haven't. So I need like an update. Like I saw some pictures. I'll make it quick. It's amazing. Yeah. So I'll give you a quick rundown because it was so overwhelming. You know, I went there by myself because I've been obsessed with seeing their journey after the one monk lost his leg. It came up. That's how I found them. So I'm like, I go to Washington, D.C. by myself, not knowing where I'm going, what I'm doing. And I just went to the concierge desk and I'm like, can you tell me where the monks are? She's like, hold on, let me look it up. My friend, Danielle Trulio and Frankie were really trying to help me get to them. And they forced me to go real good friends will force you to do something you're worried about. But you were there alone. Alone. So I needed to go alone because I didn't want anyone to take the experience away from me because it wasn't going to be an easy, cushy trip. And I knew that. So, well, it wasn't like their journey. They walked most of 2,300 miles with no shoes on. I stayed at the Four Seasons and was just worried about my coat was too heavy. So anyway, I found them. And when I found them, I was like, oh my God, I just pulled up to some church, walked through the crowd, got as close as I could. Wait, were you like in a car driving around looking for them? No, I took an Uber to where they were starting their walk-off. And on the way there, I'm like, oh, I don't know if I'm going to walk with them. Maybe I'll just meet them at their next stop. And when I got there, I tried, there was a lot of security. I tried to get close to them. And I started talking to this one guy and I was like, wow, they're so beautiful what they did. And he's like, yeah, it's pretty amazing. and he was kind of working there. He had a thing on and he said, I know who you are. You're from the Housewife show. My wife, Maria, watches it. Oh, buddy. And I said, well, give me your phone. I just want to tell her thank you. And so I did. And then he came over to me and he gave me a bracelet. He goes, my wife's working with them. And this is a bracelet one of the monks had made. Oh, my gosh. And I was in there five minutes and I never thought I'd get a bracelet. And I was like, almost started crying. Like I got all choked up. And I was like, oh, my God, thank you. Tell her thank you so much. And then they started walking. And the one monk was there who lost his leg. He started the walk with them. People started singing. Was he in a wheelchair? Yeah. And I and I saw that, you know, the head monk walking and they had no shoes on. It was freezing. And the woman next to me goes, I think I'm going to try to walk with them. And I said, well, I think I'm going to do that, too. And we walked through the streets, probably, I don't know how many miles it was, over an hour walk. Uphills all the way to Lincoln, Lincoln Memorial. So you made a new friend too? I made a new friend on the way there. She was so cute. Her name was Jenny Tog, I want to say. And, you know, we were like two old biddies holding each other up through the walk. And then when they got to Lincoln Memorial, he was emotional. You know, to see all the people walking, you could hear a pin drop. people meeting each other with maps on where to go. Thousands of people just walking up to hear them speak. And, you know, it was basically about being mindful, focusing and finding your own peace. Every day, wake up and write down, this will be my peaceful day. Say it, write it, and then think it. And no one can take that from you. He goes, we're not going to change the world. We can't, but we could change the world within ourselves. Yeah. So that was basically, it wasn't political. It wasn't religious. It wasn't, everybody was accepted. Even people that were chanting against them, you know, you have your crowd saying things. And he said the, the biggest thing he found along the way was so many people came up to him crying. Yeah. And he says, he remembers their face. And a couple of people said, I would have killed myself if it wasn't for you and your journey. And I'm still here because you gave me hope. And so many people need this right now. So yeah. And then later on, I went to meditate with them and it was a whole room of meditation. And now they're coming over for dinner tonight. No, I didn't get that close. But I, when I showed up to the meditation, the line was wrapped around the block three times. And I'm like, I'm not going to make it here. I'm not going to get in. And the people around me, they're like, oh, we'll make it. Don't worry. Like this is the kind of people, first of all, nobody, there wasn't too many people in that crowd that knew watch TV. The guy in front of me, I'm like, you have a backpack. They're not letting people in with a backpack. He goes, I have a feeling when I get up there, we'll find a way. I go, so you're going to wait on this line over an hour. Just to see. And guess what? He got in. They said, you could leave your backpack aside. Might get stolen, but he's like, no problem. So yeah, it was amazing. And you know, I couldn't think about that word for might the year. Like you, what was the word you thought of? Was it unbothered? Is that what I said? I don't think that's what you said, but whatever it was, see, you're supposed to remember. I know. And while I was meditating, the word forgiveness came to me. And it's about forgiving myself because I've always held it against myself for letting other people do wrong to me. I always said, it's my fault. I allowed it to happen. Well, to a certain extent. And it kind of follows through with everything else. Well, if I think that I should punish myself for things and let people do things to me because I let it happen, then I'm always going to have that happen to me. So it's about forgiveness for me. I love that. I love that for you. And that's what I got out of my meditation. An amazing person. Oh, thank you. You really are. I was talking to Paul this morning about you and I was like, oh, I'm so looking forward to my podcast. And he goes, you really should send Tamara and tell her a note and let her know how much you appreciate being with her. Don't make me cry. I said, okay, Paul, I never sent anybody a note about that, but that's kind of, I'll just let her know. I appreciate this Tamara. So anyway. That's so sweet. I appreciate you guys. So yes, yes. It was so nice spending time with you and Eddie and then, and then the monks and I'm in a good place. Just want to let you know. And I want I love it. I'm going to be in that place with me. I am getting there. I am getting there. I will call you later and tell you, but it's definitely happening. I have turned a corner. I wanted to hear that. Yeah. I wanted to hear that. And you know, when you're ready to turn that corner, you do it. I know last season we started this same conversation and you weren't ready. I don't think you were ready, but I feel like you're ready now. Yeah, I'm ready. I'm ready. I need some happiness, some forgiveness, some mindful thinking. Let's have our word. Let's start this over. Our word is forgiveness. Forgiveness. I love that word. Yes. And there's nothing worse than holding on to stuff that just does nothing for you. He said, don't take it with you. They don't get attached to anything in this world. Nothing. And they don't bring things with them. even when the dog had to leave for surgery he's very close with his dog aloka and the dog got hurt along the way as well and people said to him how bad did you take it when aloka left you he goes i didn't think about aloka one more second after aloka left me wow he said we do not get attached to things in this world we should do a housewife show about that yeah nobody can attach anything. Nobody brings anything. Well, you know, that might be a good cast trip idea. Jersey comes back. We're going to talk about that. Yeah. That might be a good idea. So, well, you know, what was not a good idea was losing Candace and Lisa Renna. And now I, I miss them. Have you lost your, have you lost your, well, you know, we did talk about this. We said when you lose the personalities. It got a lot, a little boring. And what about Dorinda? Dorinda too. That's what I'm saying. Dorinda's gone. Everybody's gonzo. Yeah, this is gone. I think Rob's going to win this. I could see how he could. Did you see that Alan said he was one of the best traders? Yeah. He said he's playing the game. He used a word in, on watch what happens live. And he likes them. Yeah. He said he's going to be his ex-boyfriend. Would he say something like that? I didn see that but I can see that I can see him saying that So it Rob is strategically playing this game like no other We had other traders before like our girls you know and they were so witty Our housewife traders are smart. They're witty, but they're not game players. Not, but they're not like him. They're not strategic. Sorry. They're not. He's charming. He's strategic. He's, conniving. He is everything wrapped in one. Commiserating. Wrapped in a snake. He is speaking all the languages. He's speaking the language. You know this is going to change his life. Oh, I'm sure. This is going to change his life. He is going to get a TV show. He's going to get so many commercials. Of course. But is he going to get Maura Higgins? No, he's too good for her. oh girl he's got too much substance you know what I mean like he's smiling she's falling off the chair Mort doesn't even talk like no I mean I hate to say like no disrespect but I think I just did it all in one sentence okay I'm gonna put my shovel down I am going to put my shovel down right now you don't have to talk You are the MVP. Dead. I could close it. I do love the window open. It's fanning me. And the air conditioner on. Oh, girl. Oh, my God. But you know what? So, you know, Eric being so quiet, I wasn't quite sure. Like, you know, he doesn't really talk much. He's a great trader. Pick. because he's going to get eaten alive by Rob. I know, but he was smart enough to say like, like, holy shit. When he took the hood off and he revealed to Eric who he was, he was like blown away because everybody thought, you know, Rob was a faithful. And then Eric was saying like in his confessional or something, he's like, how do I know he's not going to turn on me? He is. So he's like, he turned on every traitor in the turret. he is gonna turn on and you know i don't think eric was he was so overwhelmed i don't think he was going over his head yet in his head who who rob really threw under the bus i think he was just thinking oh but he could turn on me too wait till it hits him wait till he goes home and he goes back to his room and he lays his head on the pillow and the day of him becoming a traitor is going through his head and he's like, but he turned on everybody. He's the scorpion traitor. He's the traitor that's going to, because it's going to, he's going to kill you because it's in his nature to be this traitor. Even the way he was like talking to Eric, you know, saying like, you come with me or you die. Like, he's just like, he's going to kill you. I'm going to kill you. He's like in the role. Like he's in, he's just so good. I mean I don't know that Eric was the the perfect choice I don't know I like it you do like it I'm gonna tell you why because Eric's not vicious Eric's not inherently a gonna be a good traitor so he's gonna be used as a shield or he's going his first day of being a traitor he already got suspected by the end of the episode yeah so but that's good because that's getting you know it's Rob, Rob, pick somebody who can't outsmart him. I feel like in this game, I don't know that. I don't know that anybody can outsmart him. And I don't know about if they took a, like a math test between next to each other. I'm not going to, but I'm saying like, this isn't my, this isn't my, my stick. I, I, I never, kids like me don't get to do this. So by the time he could become a bad guy, he'll be killed. Well, when they're in the breakfast room, you know, Eric, you could see like he's so nervous and his energy has shifted now that he's a trader. And I'm like, somebody is going to pick up on this. I mean, and then we see that somebody and it's Kristen. Kristen. I like her so much. You know, I met her at BravoCon and she was so lovely. I like her so much. I've never met her. Oh, she's lovely in person. A doll. So nice. She just has like her energy and everything and something about her. Yeah. And she's smart. She is smart. But, you know, this episode, Natalie is so stuck on Steven. I don't see Steven giving traitor vibes. Either do I. He would not be on my radar. Most of them are so off on who they think a traitor is. They're so off. They're so off. Even at this stage of the game. That's what I was going to say. This late in the game, you would think you would know more. Steven and Tara? I know. I don't get Tara either. I love Johnny and Tara's relationship. I do too. They're so cute, how they hold hands and hang out. Obviously, they bonded about the Olympics, being in the Olympics. I mean, he's like, listen, I'm competitive, but after all, I am an Olympian. How many people can say that? Many. I'm a f***ing Olympian. Wow. He's got cool energy too. He does. He really does. I'd like to hang out with him. Well, skaters are pretty cool as far as I'm concerned. And I used to make believe I was a skater in my room with my socks. Ice skater? Yes, an ice skater. But I've been watching. Did you see the last, the kid whose both his parents were killed in a plane crash? Oh, the Olympics? Is that what you're talking about? No, but my makeup girl, Chelsea, she was a skater, ice skater growing up. And she said she was watching it crying. So we didn't really get into it. I'm assuming that's what it's about. I could still cry because he was crying. He was holding their picture, kissing their picture. I was dying. Oh, God, Dolores. How long ago? Last year. Oh, God. You think of the parents that get you to that. And how old is he? How old is he? Like 16? He's young. No, he's not 16. I don't think he's that young, but he's young and he's a boy. Boys break my heart. Oh, yeah. I think a little Frankie. Hi, this is Jo Winterstein, host of the Spirit Daughter Podcast, where we talk about astrology, natal charts, and how to step into your most vibrant life. And I just sat down with a mini driver. The Irish traveler said when I was 16, you're going to have a terrible time with men. Actor, storyteller, and unapologetic Aquarian visionary. Aquarius is all about freedom loving and different perspectives. And I find a lot of people with strong placements in Aquarius are misunderstood. A sun and Venus in Aquarius in her seventh house spark her unconventional approach to partnership. He really has taught me to embrace people sleeping in different rooms, on different houses, in different places, but just an embracing of the is-ness of it all. If you're navigating your own transformation or just want a chart-side view into how a leading artist integrates astrology, creativity, and real life, this episode is a must-listen. Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. Ready for a different take on Formula One? Look no further than No Grip, a new podcast tackling the culture of motor racing's most coveted series. Join me, Lily Herman, as we dive into the underexplored pockets of F1, including the astrology of the current grid. Lewis Hamilton, Capricorn Sun, Cancer Moon. Wouldn't you know it, Michael Schumacher is also a Capricorn Sun, Cancer Moon. The story of the sport's most consequential driver's strike. We have one man who, upon hearing that he was going to be fired, freaked out and apparently climbed out the window of the bathroom? And was Daniel Ricciardo's illustrious F1 career a success story, a cautionary tale, or some combination of both? He started getting all this attention, and he maybe started to think, I'm bigger than this, I'm better. And plenty of other mishaps, scandals, and sagas that have made Formula One a delightful, decadent dumpster fire for more than 75 years. Listen to No Grip on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton Eckerd, and in 2022, I was the lead of ABC's The Bachelor. Unfortunately, it didn't go according to plan. He became the first Bachelor to ever have his final rose rejected. The internet turned on him. If I could press a button and rewind it all, I would. But what happened to Clayton after the show made even bigger headlines. It began as a one-night stand and ended in a courtroom with Clayton at the center of a very strange paternity scandal. The media is here. This case has gone viral. The dating contract. Agree to date me, but I'm also suing you. Please search warrant. This is unlike anything I've ever seen before. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trapped. This season, an epic battle of he said, she said, and the search for accountability in a sea of lies. I have done nothing except get pregnant by the f***ing bachelor Listen to Love Trapped on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast I'm joined by Luke Combs, award-winning country music artist and one of the most authentic voices in music today Luke opens up about success, self-doubt, mental health and what it really takes to stay true to who you are when your life changes overnight. I hate fame. I hate the word celebrity. I hate those words. They make me uncomfortable. But I think when you get to a certain point, the fame or the success or the influence, it just accentuates and exacerbates the inherent person that you are. The guy that says he's always going to be there and that will do anything to be there is the only guy that's not there. I'm in Australia when Bo was born. My whole identity is that no matter what, I'm going to prioritize my wife and my children over my job. I dread the conversation with my son. What do you think you'd say? Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you feel kind of like without The Housewives, the entertainment value has gone down? So, yes. I think Rob now is our entertainment The big personalities are gone Yeah We only have like two more episodes Really Yeah I think it only like a couple more episodes left He's going to, I'm going to guess that what I can tell is I feel like Natalie's going to get murdered because she's a good player. And Rob knows that. Rob knows he's got to get rid of her. Well, it's down to the wire now. Yeah, he's got to get rid of the good players. He's got to get rid of, Kristen's going to get murdered. Natalie's going to get murdered because they're like, you know, onto things. Maura, he'll save for last. I don't think she's going to get banished. How has she been on for so long? I don't know. I don't know. What do you think? I mean, I'm surprised. What do you really think? I think I've told you what I really think. No. I'm shocked that, you know, sometimes they do like confusing murders. Like let's just do it for random, whatever. I'm surprised she hasn't been one. Maybe it's because Rob likes her. I'm not sure. He has a hot story. Let's keep her around as long as possible. You know what I want to see? I want to see at the very end. It's him and Maura. And then he stabs her in the heart and takes all the money. i'm so mean i'm so mean this is so funny oh my god but okay so you know after breakfast the uh the group splits up to talk steven is sure that johnny is a traitor um has anybody ever thought that rob was the traitor has anybody ever like suspected him um yeah of course you have i can't remember because I'm like, this guy is just skating by. Well, no, I was going to say Candace. Candace tried to put it, but nobody really went for it. Nobody. Right. No. And I think because Candace went for it and she was a traitor, they don't suspect him to be a traitor. She did him a favor and he's underestimated. Did him a solid, yeah. Him and his overalls and the dumb look he puts on his face. I need to see him in his overalls with no shirt on again. I could see right through that. Once that bitch quoted Hulk Finn. I'm like, yeah, no. And correct. No. Early in the game when he corrected Michael Rappaport for using the wrong verbiage, I'm going to tell you right now. We ain't messing around no dummy. There's no way that was getting by me. No, I know I would have been I would have honed in on him from the first correction. Yeah. So they're all talking. Tara tells Johnny his name was brought up last night. Johnny is after Steven, after seeing him and Candice alone in the room. I could see that. This is a little sus. Rob's just laying down on the couch without a care in the damn world, just lying there, smiling with a twinkle in his eye. While Maura's sitting there with her hat on, right? I know. I'm like, this guy is going to win this game. Listen, right now, he's playing he's playing to win he is playing to win what did you think about this mission these boxes you ain't get me in a box that's what i was gonna say phobia me too me too you know what if i hit that that top and it was locked that's when i would lose my mind that was like i think sitting there for a few minutes like a minute i'd probably be okay but with when it was locked hell no hell no i mean it's it's a step up from being buried alive 20 steps up but however the fact that they rambled everybody's mind with putting tara there for so much that was smart see i would have never thought that that was so smart they gave up money to do that too and then at the end the you know the group got smart they're like let's get some money. You know, her name's coming up again. Except for, except for who? Who was it? Johnny? Johnny, of course, because he loves her so much. He's not going to vote for her again. I will tell you one of the takeaways from this whole game is their friendship should, should definitely, they've already got a commercial together. Yeah. They have a capital one or Delta something. There's been a lot of commercials. In fact, I see your commercials out all the time, Dolores. Oh, you did? I didn't see them. You haven't seen them? Yeah, I've seen them. Well, I watch on Peacock on my, just my laptop, whatever. And Carolyn. She was so fun. Was she? And West. The Taco Bell commercial makes me want to eat tacos and I don't eat tacos. You have another commercial too. Garnier, my cellular water. By the way, I buy it all the time. It's amazing for makeup remover. I need to get some. It's very good for removing your makeup. Get that. I promise you. You'll be happy. So they climb in the boxes and I'm just thinking, no, no, no. Then the traders have to climb out of the boxes and be quiet and decide on the answer, then climb back into the box. This is really cute. That was scary. I know, but it was kind of a cute thing. So Eric is getting really thrown into the pit, the torrent, with having probably the hardest traitor challenge I have ever seen, or not the hardest, I'd say the most incriminating. This one? Mm-hmm. You think so? I feel it, yeah. So Rob's name is written down. Rob and Eric go by the strategy of trying to confuse the faithfuls. Tara is the answer to all the questions. And the Faithfuls are not the smartest group of Faithfuls we've seen so far. They should have kept voting Tara since it was a pattern. Well, they did at the end. They did at the end. Yeah. And then four players are shortlisted for murder. Natalie, Johnny, Tara. So it was Kristen, I think, that was like, son of a bitch. Like, are you kidding me right now? she's she's and natalie was like be careful get me out of here i couldn't do it i could no no no i like natalie i think she's so sweet i like them all um the group gets back to the castle and discuss what they are thinking the names going around are steven and johnny well i i i mean i think it was a bad choice. I really do. Well, it wasn't a traitor. No, it wasn't, but they better get going. I didn't think like Steven did that much for the show. Like he was pretty quiet. And I probably, that was his strategy to stay in for as long as he could. Sitting around the round table, Johnny and Terry reveal how close they are. They explained that they are after Stephen. How did nobody realize that Johnny and Tara are BFFs? They're not paying attention. They're like, go ahead. You know, I'm not voting for him. So just like, get me out. Do what you want. But Tara and Johnny, Tara gets stumped by Maura. Maura says, how can you promise? How can you promise? So she goes and she gets stumped. And then Johnny, being the good friend that he is, jumps in and says, we've been through a lot together. We've been through the trenches together. We've been through the Olympics together. I know there's no way she could lie to me. And then Mark jumps in and debunks that and goes, well, I've worked with a lot of people too, very closely as an athlete. And I can tell you that I would look at them differently on this show. Well, not these two. Maybe you, Mark, but you are not at that close, I want to say, with anybody as close as these. These two have a different kind of friendship. This is a loyalty that is not going to be compromised. Yeah, you could see it. Regardless of the game. And I think, and I'm going to tell you this, there's almost a part of me that wishes one of them was a traitor, not to see the other one hurt, but to see the surprise on the other one's face. Because this does change you for life. If you're that close with someone and you go through a whole time finding out that they lied to you, if you are that truly close with someone, we could probably ask Sheree this, right? Kind of kicks you in the stomach a little bit, unless that person protected you the whole time. Now, when you're a traitor, you're not allowed, even if you have like a best friend on the show, you're not allowed to tell them you're a traitor, right? No way. You can't. No way. Yeah. Uh-uh. Hi, this is Jo Winterstein, host of the Spirit Daughter podcast, where we talk about astrology, natal charts, and how to step into your most vibrant life. And I just sat down with a mini driver. The Irish traveler said when I was 16, you're going to have a terrible time with men. Actor, storyteller, and unapologetic Aquarian visionary. Aquarius is all about freedom loving and different perspectives. And I find a lot of people with strong placements in Aquarius are misunderstood. A sun and Venus in Aquarius in her seventh house spark her unconventional approach to partnership. He really has taught me to embrace people sleeping in different rooms, on different houses, in different places, but just an embracing of the is-ness of it all. If you're navigating your own transformation or just want a chart-side view into how a leading artist integrates astrology, creativity, and real life, this episode is a must-listen. Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. Ready for a different take on Formula One? Look no further than No Grip, a new podcast tackling the culture of motor racing's most coveted series. Join me, Lily Herman, as we dive into the underexplored pockets of F1, including the astrology of the current grid. Lewis Hamilton, Capricorn Sun, Cancer Moon. Wouldn't you know it, Michael Schumacher is also a Capricorn Sun, Cancer Moon. The story of the sport's most consequential driver's strike. We have one man who, upon hearing that he was going to be fired, freaked out, and apparently climbed out the window of the bathroom. And was Daniel Ricciardo's illustrious F1 career a success story, a cautionary tale, or some combination of both. He started getting all this attention, and he maybe started to think, I'm bigger than this, I'm better. And plenty of other mishaps, scandals, and sagas that have made Formula One a delightful, decadent dumpster fire for more than 75 years. Listen to No Grip on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton Eckerd, and in 2022, I was the lead of ABC The Bachelor Unfortunately it didn go according to plan He became the first bachelor to ever have his final rose rejected The internet turned on him If I could press a button and rewind it all I would But what happened to Clayton after the show made even bigger headlines. It began as a one-night stand and ended in a courtroom, with Clayton at the center of a very strange paternity scandal. The media is here. This case has gone viral. The dating contract. Agree to date me, but I'm also suing you. Please search warrant. This is unlike anything I've ever seen before. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trapped. This season, an epic battle of he said, she said, and the search for accountability in a sea of lies. I have done nothing except get pregnant by the f***ing bachelor. Listen to Love Trapped on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. I'm joined by Luke Combs, award-winning country music artist and one of the most authentic voices in music today. Luke opens up about success, self-doubt, mental health, and what it really takes to stay true to who you are when your life changes overnight. I hate fame. I hate the word celebrity. I hate those words. 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What are they doing? Robby feeling that he has a dagger only made the faithfuls not want to come for him even more. There you go. God, he's good. He's so good. Uh-huh. Why do you think he's so good? Did he like study the game? He's got an upper hand like. What does he do for a living? I don't get it. He doesn't just go get snakes, does he? I mean, he's too smart. He does not just catch snakes for a living, does he? I don't know. Well, now he's an influencer. Now he's going to have his own TV show. He's going to have something. I'd like to see him and Dylan together, but Dylan's- Oh, I would too. I love Dylan. He's so sweet. Now, you know, there was some rumors out there that there was a Traders All-Star cast being put together. And they put Gabby, Wendy, and Dylan, and I didn't see my name. I know. Well, it was debunked. Oh, I knew it wasn't real. They're not doing that yet. You know, Paul made a very- It's too soon, right? Too soon. Paul made a very good point. He goes, they don't do that now. They're not doing that yet. No, it's too soon. They have too many reality people and athletes and all that gamers to go through. Yeah. They'll run out of people eventually, I'm sure. Of course they will. Okay, so the group splits up to chat after the roundtable. Kristen asked Eric why he was so quiet at the roundtable. She is suspicious of Eric. Ooh, she's honing in. Yeah, but Eric is always pretty quiet, don't you think? Yes, but he's nervous. So that's the energy she's picking up on. Not that he wasn't talking, just that he looks nervous. Well, then Kristen telling Rob and Mark, if I'm murdered tonight, it's Eric. she did say that but what about she also told tara how she felt about her too she's like i thought i used to be you i thought the thing is they can't murder her they're not going to be able to murder her after that statement yeah but happen they don't have a lot of choices yet well you know whose choice they didn't it's rob his name was not brought up at the round table again well rob threw this guy into the mix and got it off of him like he you know he was smart. This was a really good choice, but I got to be honest. I probably would have picked him too. I'm not trying like, oh, I'm smart and I would have been a good trader. I'm just saying like, I think he was a really obvious good choice because he was the most quiet. Well, back up the turret. Good old Rob and Eric up there with their hoods on. And what did he say? He goes, you look like Harry Potter. He was funny. Do you think Rob is going to set Eric up? Eventually. I mean, only two more episodes. He's not even going to think twice. Now, let me ask you, if two traitors make it to the end, let me ask you, can two traitors win? Two traitors can win. Because if two traitors are standing there. Yeah. They'd split the money then. But Rob did tell Eric what Kristen had said. So he could have easily not said anything. And then Eric, they could have voted for Kristen. And people would have went, oh, oh, it's Eric. And he would be the next one to go. So he had an opportunity to throw him under the bus. He still needs him. He still needs him. He's not done with him yet. He would have had to recruit somebody else. oh my god so close to the end you think you'd have to recruit yeah i think so so the shortlist if you remember what we got a trader out at the last round table who was recruited britney was recruited by danielle that's right and they did not they took away the they said that they took away her being able to tell us if she was a traitor or not when she was banished so now we were still left with the four of us going to the end not knowing if one of us was a traitor well they all the the shortlisted people got letters they had to go in and i could imagine they're like oh my god am i murdered like when your first thought would probably be There's that letter. We've all seen it on TV. I'm murdered already. But no, they have to go out to the boxes again. Who do you think is getting murdered? Tara, Johnny, Kristen, or Natalie? Tara. Yeah, I think you're right. They're going to pin it on Johnny. Then Johnny's going to get banished, I feel like. That would be a tough one. They can't murder. Hard to tell. Hard to tell. What do you think? I don't know. I mean, it's not Kristen. It could be Natalie. She's a strong player. And I think it might be time to get her out. I think, okay. Okay. Right? Yeah. I think it's a toss between Natalie and Tara. I just feel like Tara and Johnny are like nothing burgers. Like, I think everybody knows that they're, they should know, like, that they're faithfuls. But I don't know. I don't know. But I think they still need Natalie at the round table because she's a strong player and she's not going for Rob. So why not have Natalie say who she thinks is the next one, use her as the shield and then murder her? Yeah. Well, I don't know. We have to wait another week to find out. Well, they did shoot the reunion. Andy was in L.A. yesterday and they shot the reunion for two years. I know. Can't wait to see the looks and all that. Let me just tell you, Dorinda's outfit when she was murdered, holy shit, lovely, beautiful. I think it was Gucci. She has a lot of Gucci in her wardrobe. She loves Gucci, but what a way to go out, girl. Well, that was a great episode. We have to wait another week to see what is going on. But thank you guys for tuning in to another episode by Order of the Faithfuls. I hated to say goodbye to our last housewife on the show, but she lasted a long time. We don't have housewife energy anymore. No, that's okay. Let's see. Let's get it going. Let's see how this ends. But yeah. All right, guys. See you next week. Bye. 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