Early Top 15 WR Rankings + Jason FORE!!! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 4/16
68 min
•Apr 16, 2026about 1 month agoSummary
The Fantasy Footballers discuss their early top 15 wide receiver rankings for the 2024 NFL season, analyzing player consistency, quarterback dependency, and team quality as key factors in fantasy success. The hosts debate tier rankings for elite receivers like Jamar Chase, Puka Nakua, and JSN, while exploring how draft capital and offensive changes could impact player value.
Insights
- Top 15 fantasy WRs historically average 142 targets and 8.8 TDs, with 77% receiving 7.5+ targets/game and 64% scoring 8+ TDs, indicating elite receivers require high-volume roles
- Quarterback health and stability matter significantly more than commonly acknowledged—Joe Burrow's injury history creates real risk for Justin Jefferson despite his talent
- Rookie WR consistency scores (like Tate McMillan's 41% above 10.5 PPR points) can predict breakout potential if volume increases, even with modest year-one production
- Team quality and winning records correlate strongly with WR1 finishes; receivers on losing teams rarely finish top-15 despite individual talent
- Contested catch rates and red zone target share are more predictive of sustained elite production than raw yardage totals
Trends
Younger, unproven WRs with new QB situations (Ken Walker, Hampton) being drafted ahead of proven veterans, reflecting league-wide bet on upside over consistencyInjury durability becoming primary differentiator between similarly-talented receivers—ACL+meniscus injuries and concussion history now weighted heavily in rankingsManufactured touches and schematic diversity (screen passes, end-arounds, slot usage) increasingly important for WR fantasy value in modern offensesQB backup quality now factored into WR rankings (Stetson Bennett as Rams backup vs. Joe Flacco as Bengals backup creates different risk profiles)Draft capital allocation to WR position by teams like Chiefs, Rams, and Seahawks creating uncertainty that's depressing ADP for established receivers on those teamsOffensive coordinator changes (Kellen Moore to Saints) creating optimism for WR breakouts despite QB limitationsTarget share concentration (25%+ for rookies like Tate McMillan) emerging as more predictive than historical yardage benchmarks
Topics
Wide Receiver Ranking MethodologyQuarterback Injury Risk AssessmentTarget Share and Volume AnalysisRookie Wide Receiver Consistency ScoringNFL Draft Capital Impact on Fantasy ValueTeam Offensive Quality CorrelationContested Catch Rate PredictabilityRed Zone Target DistributionBackup Quarterback Risk MitigationOffensive Coordinator Scheme ChangesManufactured Touches and Schematic DiversityConcussion History and Player DurabilityDynasty vs. Redraft Ranking DivergenceBest Ball ADP vs. Expert Rankings GapsWide Receiver Tier Stratification
Companies
Kansas City Chiefs
Discussed as having three top-30 draft picks and potential to add elite WR talent to Patrick Mahomes' offense
Los Angeles Rams
Analyzed for Matthew Stafford health management and potential first-round WR draft pick impact on Puka Nakua's target...
Seattle Seahawks
Identified as most exciting draft team with picks 32 and 64 likely to target running back in Super Bowl-winning system
Cincinnati Bengals
Discussed regarding Joe Burrow injury history impact on Jamar Chase and Tee Higgins fantasy value
Minnesota Vikings
Analyzed for Kyler Murray QB transition impact on Justin Jefferson's fantasy production and target volume
Dallas Cowboys
Discussed for CD Lamb and George Pickens dual WR threat with Dak Prescott as fantasy-friendly QB
Detroit Lions
Referenced for Amon-Ra St. Brown's consistent top-3 WR finishes and Jameer Gibbs passing game involvement
New Orleans Saints
Analyzed for Chris Olave's potential breakout with Kellen Moore as offensive coordinator and Tyler Shuck at QB
Pittsburgh Steelers
Discussed as lacking clear QB future and potential draft strategy for 2024 season
Arizona Cardinals
Identified as team linked to Ty Simpson trade-up in draft, impacting Drake London's offensive situation
People
Andy Holloway
Co-host discussing WR rankings and providing analysis on quarterback health and team quality factors
Jason Moore
Co-host providing contrarian rankings and debating WR tier placement, particularly on Malik Nabers and Rashi Rice
Mike Wright
Co-host offering WR rankings and strong advocacy for players like Malik Nabers and Tee Higgins despite injury concerns
Jeremy
Mentioned as golf tournament participant and competitive player in hosts' golf outing discussion
Kyle
Provided historical WR statistics and research on top-15 receiver benchmarks and comparative analysis
Quotes
"Top 15 fantasy wide receivers average 142 targets, 95 receptions, 1,270 yards and 8.8 receiving touchdowns"
Andy Holloway•Early in episode
"You need wins. So it's kind of universal across fantasy. And it's one of those things that it's like, everybody knows it. But if you just kind of follow that a little bit more strict as a tiebreaker, you're going to help yourself more than you think."
Jason Moore•Mid-episode
"If Malik can be healthy enough in the off season or like the training camp and get up to full speed faster, you know, like by game three or so, I think he will be a true difference maker for your wide receiver crew."
Mike Wright•Malik Nabers discussion
"I don't think Jefferson with Kyler is going to finish at number one overall. Like that great year Kyler had with Hopkins. Hopkins was the number five wide receiver."
Jason Moore•Justin Jefferson analysis
"When those things, which should be normal things happen when Jupiter aligns, good. He's so good. And the thing is, as you go, well, shouldn't most games be like burrow, Higgins and Chase are just playing football?"
Mike Wright•Tee Higgins discussion
Full Transcript
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If you know what they're going to do, no, you played fine. We just, I was a little disappointed because the last time I went out with Al Borland and we played some golf, he didn't finish the round and it was really entertaining for us. It was frustrating for him. But today he was fine. Yeah. I'm not going to say good. That's fine. But he was fine. Yeah, it was better than one guy. Which one guy was that? Oh, don't. Oh, I knew this was coming. I knew this was coming. I knew as soon as he brought it up, we're going to get around to Jeremy beat me by one stroke and let the record show. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to do this. Let the record show right now. I'm going to let it. $100 one-on-one anytime you want. Oh, they're playing next week, aren't we? Yeah. Put some money on it. All right. Oh yeah. Put some money on it. $100. Oh, if you lose it. $1000. Oh, it's good. Hello, everybody. We don't play golf that often. I think this is like the second time in 15 years. Maybe this will be a little competitive. Maybe this will be a thing now. Mike Wright is here. I think I only introduced Jason. That's all right. Four. I'm Andy Holloway. The rules of golf? Four. No, the rules of, we don't have time. It's once you hit and you know that it's headed towards a person. I'm saying you're on a golf course. You hear that word. Do you just? You duck. I heard it today. You duck and cover? On the ninth hole, someone yelled four. Me and I think it was Jeremy. We were standing next to each other. We both just basically dropped to our knees and put our hands over our head. Like we're going to die immediately. Like a drive-by shooting? Yeah. I mean, it was, what else do you do? You don't know. You're not going to be like, well, let me turn around and inspect where the ball is coming from. Yeah. It's just a quick warning. A quick word. I think that was baby Jake who hit that ball. But here we are. We've got, we've got far, far too much to cover on today's episode to talk anymore about Jason and Jeremy's rivalry on the golf course. We have our top 15 early wide receiver rankings today to get into. We just did our running back rankings on the last episode. If you want to hear those, some really good discussions, I think, about a ton of those players. I think in particular what stood out to me is the way that you value players like Jacobs, Barkley, Henry versus taking upside of players like Hampton, Ken Walker, anybody with a new scenario, new situation, or hasn't done them before, but seems like they should be able to do it versus the kind of tried and true veterans. It seems like consensus right now is that the younger hotness could be stars or drafted ahead. Yeah. And that is, that's a tough one. In fantasy, you, you kind of know that, I mean, I think you brought it up with, I don't know if it was CMC or somebody else, but it was like, you know that the efficiency over time isn't going to get better. I don't think it would seem so. That was Barkley. It was Barkley. You know, you're not really going to get a better season. And that's where that decision comes. It makes it very difficult. But we'll get into the wide receiver position today. I don't really know where our disagreements are here. I have my rankings. You guys did yours. We have the consensus today. We'll walk through it. Got a quick question as well. Before we get into that, I want to invite you right now. You want to get in on the UDK pre-order. I promise. Some special stuff coming up. We'll announce it next week ahead of the draft, but it will be, everybody that has the pre-order will be eligible for it. So there are two ways to make sure you have the UDK. 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I mean, all of them. But if you're hearing this and you're like, oh, I already bought the UDK, but I would like to be a footclend member, we've got something special for you all off season. You can just use what you paid for the UDK as a prorated discount on the ultimate footclend membership. So if you go to jointhefoot.com and you had already bought the UDK, we'll just give you a full credit for that. That way you can become it's automatic as long as you're logged in. Dramatic. It is. We can't sing the lyrics. I know. Can't sing the lyrics. What from famous kids, musical grease. There you go. So let's jump in. Quick question of the day. Speaking of the draft, what team are you most excited to see make their picks in day one and two? I am most excited for the Seahawks because at 32 or 64, they're taking a running back. They've had a bunch of running backs in. They've got a need. There's no free agents out there. And it's the number one most enticing landing spot. I mean you could argue if you take high draft capital at seven, maybe the commanders are a better landing spot, but this is a super bowl winning team that wants to run the ball. And they have the perfect draft capital to spend like the 32nd pick is perfect. Is perfect to take the second running back ahead of where you expect them to take. But the 64th pick is still great. You're talking about a second round pick. High draft capital. And I do believe that they'll take a running back in one of those two spots. If not, they'll take them in the third round. But if they take one in one of those two spots, I promise the first two picks, they will take one. But if they don't, there's just an expert. I said, I believe. And if you look if they don't take one with the third, the fourth pick for sure. They will have another running back on this team via draft. Fifth pick, six pick. The George Hulani hive is will come for you. Here's what I think Jay. Here's what the actual prediction is. I don't think it's 32. I think it's in the middle of the second round with a trade up. Okay. But let me ask you this. Let's say which is another one of the many ways they can acquire running that trade. If they use one of the first two picks on a running back, would that running back basically automatically be the number two running back in behind? Yeah. No, no, no. No, no. No. No, no. Not at all. No, I don't. I think it will depend. My opinion might change really close to the season if Charbonnay's progression is really poor. But I mean, they did pick up Emmanuel Wilson. This is a team that just won the Super Bowl. I don't know if you hand over, you know, a workload that you're proud of to a rookie right out of the gate. They love Charbonnay to the point where they demoralized Mike on a weekly basis for years. So efficiency is the most. We're going to find out. Efficiency has been proven to them by them that it is not the most important thing on their agenda. Because if it was, can Walker-Rooter even play more? They want somebody in there that does all the dirty work and does the stuff they need done. That would not give me the level of confidence. They need someone who's had 639 career touches and only one fumble. You know, that type of a rookie that could come in as that. Who's that? Yeah, that's true. If it's 32, if it's picked 32, then I think maybe I have a different answer for you because it'll be a name I like, but I do think there's a difference between 32 and beyond. If it's Jonah Coleman, he'll probably be number two. There you go. Because that's just all will be answered in seven days. Stop. Well, Jonah Coleman people really eight days. We need day two. Well Jason needs all three of them. Well, right. Because if they don't take a running back with the first three picks, then on the third day, don't give me start on the 2027 options that have a running back. All right. For me, I'm going to throw out just the, basically the chiefs with draft capital. Yeah, that's fun. It's just kind of exciting to have a team that you, you know, we talk about how much we're like, oh, no, the Browns. Oh, no, the Jets. How about a team that like you could paint some nicer pictures with like some exciting future stars? Yes, Kelsey's going to be back, but he, you know, if they get another tight end, you can start looking to the future. Three top 30 picks, right? I mean, the, the you've seen mock drafts with Tyson or one of the big three at number nine. You've seen mock drafts still with Jeremiah Love falling there. You've seen mock drafts with them taking top 30 picks. Sorry about that with them taking a Sadiq. There's, I mean, there are a lot of offensive weapons that could go to Patrick Mahomes, which is obviously exciting. Yeah. I mean, they had three wider receivers with top 30 visits and two picks in the first round. I'm excited for this Pittsburgh Steelers pick and 21 of the like right now the Arizona Cardinals are just that everyone has linked them to Ty Simpson of either a trade up or whatever, but they're, they're the team to look out for to get Ty Simpson. And it's like the Steelers, you know, we have a new regime. And how, what are they going to do moving forward? Like is McCarthy, are they in crew? Are they content of just being held hostage by Rogers, not knowing if he is or is not coming back, which they may have that information right now and we don't know it. But like this is a, there's no future for this team at quarterback and they're just, there has, I'm sorry, Will Howard people. Like they're just, there hasn't been a clear future for them for since what, since big Ben, I mean, to just like, which is, that's so long. The problem is that keeps being a playoff type of a team to have no future. That's why that's the issue is the fact that like they, they didn't have a plan and it was Kenny Pickett and Kenny Pickett was the late, right? He was the, he was Ty Simpson and I don't think as a franchise, they want to do that again. He was the first quarterback taken that year. I feel like this is a really interesting year for Pittsburgh altogether because without Mike Tomlin, I feel like Mike Tomlin was doing the, the Spider-Man gift of just holding this team at a good record, right? Like they couldn't fail to the degree that they needed to get another quarterback and to rebuild. He's always holding on to eight, nine, nine or nine and eight, I guess. Yeah. I'll call that the Jason Moore NBA finals gift now. Yeah. Yeah. And, and so I feel like it could be the year with like, the Ravens are the Ravens better than the, the Steelers. Yes. Okay. Are the Bengals better than the Steelers? Yes. I just, I could see. The Steelers don't have a quarterback. So yeah. Yeah. It'll be interesting. All right. Let's let's move on. Also Dallas and Cincinnati. Don't worry about defense. No, this draft is really anti-defense. You're in a hard position there though. You want to, you want to keep the Bengals with this high flying offense because they have to score 30 in order to have a chance of winning. Yeah, I do. But you want them to, I know, but I'm just saying, you don't want them to draft a high running back for your team. He's not dropping to 10. Probably won't. He won't. Tennessee at number four. Yes. All right. We have a lot of names to get into. Let's jump right in. All right. Our early top 15 rankings at the wide receiver position here on eight recorded April 15th. It's April 16th when you're listening to it. What makes a top 15 fantasy wide receiver over the last five years? Top 15 fantasy wide receiver average 142 targets, 95 receptions, 1,270 yards and 8.8 receiving touchdowns. I want to be honest, reading those numbers, they all seem higher than I would have expected for top 15 average. Those seem like to me like top eight average or something like that. Well, I mean, you have the guys that overwhelm. Yeah. The super tippy top always, they're really pulling the average up. So over the last five years, 77% of top 15 wide receivers average at least 7.5 targets per game. They are traditionally the alphas of the offense. High target share. We love that. 64% of them have had at least eight receiving touchdowns. So, you know, touchdowns, they fluctuate a little bit, but the big dogs, they get in the end zone at least eight times. And then they were on teams that average 9.7 wins. Yeah. I mean, we talk about it all the time with running backs that you need to be on winning teams if you're not, especially if you're not the past catching running back, but we don't feel that way as much about wide receivers because, oh, well, if you're down, you got to throw the ball. But the truth is they, the top, how they work for Minnesota, the top ones come from the best teams. You need wins. So it's kind of universal across fantasy. And it's one of those things that it's like, everybody knows it. We, you know, we kind of know like, oh, of course, we'd rather have a better offense than a worse offense, a good team versus a bad team. But if you just kind of follow that a little bit more strict as a tiebreaker, you're going to help yourself more than you think. I do feel like the years where I had that as more of a draft day focal point, I've had more success. I just thought, I mean, let's just look briefly before we get into our names. I'm just going to look at the top 10 guys last year, Puka, winning team, JSN, winning team, Amon Rao, they were about 500, right? I think yeah, they were about 500. Jamar Chase, not so much. I elite offense though. George Pickens, same story, not about 500. Chris Olave, not about 500. Zay Flowers, they did it. Adams, Houston and Niko Collins, no. Oh, and yes, sorry, yes. And then Jameson Williams and Cortland Sutton were the next two on the list. So I was just curious. Yeah, Lions were 98. Yeah. All right. Our number one by consensus, number one for both of you guys. I guess he's number two for me on my initial rankings. That's fine. It wouldn't probably happen in a draft, but that's where I have it right now. It's tough. Jamar Chase, he's pretty good. He had 182 targets. That's nice. It's the most since Cooper Cup had 191 in 2021. Yeah. I mean, there's three guys at the top in ADP and in most people's hearts, which I believe you've got Puka one, Chase and then JSN last year's wide receiver one. You can make arguments for them in any order. I think the best athlete is Jamar Chase, the most explosive plays, those huge weak winning fantasy production that comes from Jamar Chase more often than the other two. And then the tiebreaker for me, which I don't know if it's a complete tie enough to need a tiebreaker, but I do like the fact that Joe Flacco is there. You sure should something happen. I mean, we've seen this with, I mean, we saw this with Jamar Chase last year when their quarterback goes down and all of a sudden it's like, Oh, you're not good anymore. If the backup can't come in and, you know, throw enough. He doesn't have 182 targets last year without Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco was at 23 targets in week seven. That was crazy. That's tied for the third most ever in a game. I mean, you don't have to say a lot of things about Jamar Chase. Everybody knows who he is, what he's about and how dominant he can be in fantasy. Number two is Puka Nakua. I do have him ranked number one. The Rams are going to be awesome. I mean, the Rams are going to be great again. You know, I guess the storyline of Matthew Stafford's health is kind of fading away at this point where he's just, they've just managed him well in the off season now. And so at the beginning of that, it kind of felt like, Oh, we're worried about that management. Now it's like this is the plan to get him to play 17. This time last year and not this time, but even further in like getting close to draft it, it seemed like scary. The idea that Matthew Stafford would play a whole season seemed like I would have bet a dollar against it. And then all of a sudden now, hold on. Now it's, I'm saying if I have to bet one way or the other, that's the side I would have put it on. You got to risk the dollar. I don't want to risk more on a golf game. Is that a thousand dollar bet? Is that what that was? It was Jason's out of thousand. I don't think Jeremy's there. Exactly. 100 for me. Okay. I'll win a thousand if I win and you win a hundred if you win. I agree. Yeah. I don't know what we're talking about. Puka? Dude, as soon as you got the golf, as soon as you said golf, I saw red. I mean, I can tell you this before Wednesday, I will be playing golf again before we play next Wednesday. Yeah, we know that because you're in a very prestigious tournament every day. You spent way too much money in the last week on golf equipment. Jason's not helping. It's not helping. More golf. I thought these clubs were going to help. No good. Jason showed up to work one day out of the blue. What is this? This might be last week. He says out of nowhere. He's like, Oh yeah, you did blah, blah, blah. What'd you do? I'm signed up for this golf tournament here. Hold that. Wait, what? You signed up for a golf tournament, a charity golf tournament? And he's like, Yeah, I need to club. Yeah. I was like, Jay, you could borrow my clubs. I'll just go. I got this big. Oh, look at that. He's out on the lane. Look at the magic wall. I feel good. This is where I'm at home. Well, no, here scoot over to the left. Scoot over to the left just a little bit. Just a little bit over. This guy's been in the San Martin, David Hasselhoff. We were talking about, not your golf game, but Pukinacua. Pukinacua. We were talking about Matthew Stafford's health. Obviously it's a, it is a big issue. I just brought up Joe Flacco. I believe Stetson Bennett is currently the, the backup on the roster for the Rams. And that would be a travesty. I mean, that would be taking Puka from potentially the number one wide receiver in fantasy to you would hope maybe target volume his way to be top 10, but probably not. I mean, we saw that with Justin Jefferson. And so the Matthew Stafford health matters, but I agree with you, Andy, they seem like they have a plan in place. And we shouldn't be afraid during the off season when Stafford is resting, when he's not, you know, out there for some of these scrimmages, clearly not going to be playing preseason. At least in the, if you're like in a half point league that I'm looking at and on our site, even with missing a game, Puka was the number one by our scoring system that we have here on the website for last year. I mean, it is splitting hairs with the big names. I want the target insanity that is Pukinacua 166 targets last year. Both of these guys are outstanding. I'll be a little bit curious if my, I mean, my opinion is probably going to change if they go out and they grab, I was going to say, in the first round, what if they had a wide receiver? Yeah. I mean, it'll just probably put Puka at two, probably at two. So the, the, the question for Puka will be, uh, he was sensational and contested catches. He got truly sensational, 71% of them. Like that is a, that's a strong rate. Will he go back to around 50% because that, that will matter. Uh, but we're just trying to find a poke holes right now. I mean, the only holes to poke, I think are the, the health of the quarterback. I, you know, obviously there's been off field things, but those, those aren't actually leaking into games, you know, or, or actual NFL drama right now from a fantasy standpoint. So that's about it. And then obviously JSN is the only other guy, I think that's in this tier. Yeah. It's funny to think that burrow in my mind is more injury prone than Stafford for sure. Like I, I'm more, I would be, if I had to place the bet on who misses games next year, I like a whole dollar, like a whole dollar. I put it on burrow. I put it on the Stafford side. Yeah. I mean, burrow is, uh, burrow, he's been dealing with injuries. Burrow is like 50%. So we got six seasons for burrow year one was the, was that the ACL and then he played 16, 16, then you played 10 games and 23 full season and then half the season last year. All right. We got to take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about that third big name. Changes in sexual performance are more common than most people realize and support doesn't need to feel awkward with MedExpress. Everything happens privately online. Start by completing a short consultation reviewed by UK registered clinicians. If eligible treatment is delivered discreetly to your home with ongoing support whenever you need it, you're not alone in this. Visit MedExpress.co.uk slash podcast to learn more. Which for Joe Burrow is following up on that. How about, uh, an offensive lineman? There you go. Number, what are the number 10? They don't do that in Cincinnati. They should. Big time. Just be boring. JSN is number three on our consensus rankings. Number two for Mike. Number three for Jason and myself. He led the league with 1793 receiving yards last year. He had 12 different top 12 performances. He dominated every quarter of every game pretty much last year. I mean, this was truly a special season for him. They had lost not only their quarterback, but they lost DK Metcalf in the off season last year. They bring in Sam Darnold and some people looked at that as neutral. Some people looked at it as a downgrade and they won the Super Bowl, but from a consistency standpoint, it was unbelievable. 163 targets, 119 receptions, 1793 yards and 10 touchdowns. I would expect JSN to be entering this period of his career where he is doing, you know, maybe not those exact numbers, but something similar for a handful of years in a row. His first read targets were outlandish. He is clearly the focal point of that passing game. It does scare me just a smidge in the sense that if they were to use draft capital, maybe trade up and get one of these higher end wide receivers, I think that's why when we look at the Rams, they're often mocked lemon because they can pull the trigger on him. And I don't think that the Seahawks can probably get one of those top three guys. However, they're clearly looking for that. They need someone else here. Cooper Cup is old. Yeah, I mean, the death chart is nobody horton a lot. I mean, I like a Royal. I don't know if they will spin high capital. And to be honest with you, even if they added Mackay Lemon, I'm not downgrading JSN. I'm not. That's like taking that's a, he's in the tier with Jefferson and Chase where I don't care. Yeah, I don't care. I'm not downgrading the three of them in any major ways. But if you were to say who loses more target share, I think from last year, I would say JSN has the most to lose. Do you have any concerns about the changing of the offense? Because you have, Coops is gone. I mean, honestly, you still have the Shanahan system in place. You don't have the running game necessarily that you right. It may have had less. It also feels like you might need to throw the ball more here. Their success, like I don't have the, I don't have that particular number in front of me right now, but just having watched the games like downfield and intermediate, Sam Darnold to JSN was, was near perfection for a season and even the best of the best. You don't keep doing that every single year. I have a my two, we're trying to ask some questions. Find some ways where, I mean, the biggest argument against JSN versus the other two was that JSN has won MVP level elite year and the other guys have done it for more than one year. I mean, that's, that's what I feel. Number four, okay. This is where it gets interesting. Jason tried to keep them away from number four. I sure did. Mike and I have him. It doesn't belong at four. No. His name is Justin Jefferson. Oh, I'm looking at number five. Sorry. Okay. No, Justin Jefferson, Mike and I have him at number four. I do not have Jefferson at five. Jason's got him at seven. I, you know, this one's a little, the collar is a little tight. Agreed. Last year was, was, was really, really rough. This is the wide receiver 22 last year. Is Kyler actually going to work? We've seen, that's the question. We've seen the Hopkins years. Everything for Justin Jefferson is, do you believe that Kyler works? If you do, then Justin Jefferson can finish as the number one overall wide receiver. If Kyler doesn't, or like if he's average and you're, Did, did, did Sam Donald, did Sam Donald work in Minnesota? Yes. He worked, right? I mean, yes, they didn't make that run, but they had an amazing season. I think it works enough. I think it works enough because what do I trust? I trust that Kevin O'Connell is going to continue to throw the football, even if his quarterback is not necessarily always on. He's going to throw it. He's going to put the trust in that quarterback. They don't have the running game or the running game personnel to take over in that, in that fashion. And so yeah, I, I do have confidence that Jefferson, I mean, it was a down year fantasy wise, but he still had 141 targets. We just read that number about where you need to be. I mean, it was a super down year for him, still over a thousand yards. He just didn't score. This team couldn't score on offense. I feel like, what are these? These are splits with him without J.J. McCarthy. Yes. So with J.J. McCarthy, he was four receptions a game for 54 yards with just, just with non McCarthy. He was about six for 73, which sounds like 10 fantasy points a game, which is still bad. Right. I mean, but that would be a 97 for 1241 year. It's just the touchdown. The touchdowns are the big deal. And that's honestly why like Kyler is going to work out. Kyler will work out for the Vikings. Kyler is good enough to support Jefferson being a top fantasy option. I've got Jefferson at seven and really the next three guys that I've got ahead of them are all up, well, all but one to me are up for debate. The, the issue is touchdowns and Kyler can be very good for the team and throw a lot of yards, but he's never been a major touchdown throw or even when he's having his great fantasy seasons and he was the number two court. A lot of that was rushing, rushing touchdowns. 26 passing touchdowns is the most that Kyler's ever had in his career. And that was when he was better and braver stood in the pocket. Maybe this will be his best year ever. Braver Kyler. Yeah. But assuming it's not the best Kyler we've ever seen, I think that it will be difficult for Jefferson to be the number one overall. Like that great year Kyler had with Hopkins. Hopkins was the number five wide receiver. That's pretty good. So you would take Jefferson out of consideration in your mind right now to finish at one. Yeah. I don't think Jefferson with Kyler is going to finish at one. Like you don't think it's possible. Do you think it's possible, Mike? Yes. Okay. Possible. Yeah. I, I get it. I would say that a lot of people are going to turn to, I mean, five, number five on the list is Almond Raw St. Brown. And I think that's the one in particular that will be a difficult choice for people in terms of offensive consistency. You know what Almond Raw brings to the table. I've got him at five, Jason at four, Mike has him at seven. Yeah. I don't like it. And he has finished as the wide receiver three, the wide receiver three, and the wide receiver three, the last three years. That's that, that's the one where I'd have a really hard time taking Jefferson who we just saw finish at 22 at 22 in a full season with bad quarterback play over the guy that's like, nothing's changing for Almond Raw. You've got the quarterback, you got the offense, you got, he can't finish at one. I would agree with that. So if you believe like Mike does that Jefferson still could, that'd be the case for Jefferson is, Hey, I could get a number one season. Almond Raw, I don't think he could do that. The, but man, he does a lot. The argument for 172 targets, the argument for Almond Raw actually doing it. Number one is the, like over the last handful of years, the only quarterback who's throwing 4,500 yards every year is Jared golf. Okay. And number two is, which I saw a discussion online kind of, you know, got the brain going of like, while we're all either like, Hey, Montgomery's gone. And you're, so you're just thinking about Jameer Gibbs, like Jameer Gibbs, he could be the RB one. Yes, of course. They also, when Gibbs is on the field, they throw the ball more. They do. This isn't, this is not saying that Gibbs won't play, you know, he won't get handoffs or anything, but it's a, he's such a weapon in the passing game. Goal line wide receiver that you can, you can do those types of things. So it's, I wonder if their past percentage goes up just a click or two. And then if it does that, then I'm on Jameson Williams will find me be the guy you want him to be every ounce of their passing game going up helps Almond Raw. He is the, the number one target by a wide margin and he's utilized around the red zone, led all wide receivers and red zone targets last year. So the touchdowns are there. You know, sometimes you old Almond Raw, I was like, I'm not sure if you can flip flopping those. Yeah. I'm not sure. So it's like the touch on Jefferson. The perceptions are going to be there. So much riskier. Yeah, yeah. That's the facts. So, and maybe not that much difference in upside. Maybe you're talking me into before we do stats just mentally. I'm going to do it right now. Hold on. In my head. And I did. All right. Okay. I did it. Now that we get past Almond Raw, if we, if we're going Jeff, Almond Raw and then Jefferson, now is where it gets the next two a little dicey for maybe me not having Jefferson there. CD Lamb at six. Yeah. CD Lamb is 27 years old now. Jason at five. Me and Mike have him at six. CD Lamb. CD Lamb is still very, very good everybody. CD Lamb is great. CD Lamb had a special 2023. A lot of players do this where they have one year that is just their best. I mean, you don't get a repeat, right? This is not a computer. You don't hit the button and get the same stats. That's why people hate fantasy sometimes. They want to see it go exactly according to plan. Let's just say a couple of truths about CD Lamb. Number one, 2023 is going to be the best year you ever had. Yes. Number two, George Pickens is playing for the Dallas Cowboys. Those two things to me, like they take CD Lamb out of my number one overall potential. Yeah. I mean, I think George Pickens is legitimate because George was so involved and great, but they had a wide receiver two in the year that CD Lamb was the wide receiver one that was competent and the not to George Pickens was a Gallup. I don't even remember who it was. Wasn't that, wasn't that one the brand of cooks? No, I don't think he had. I'll look that up. See who curious what the highest ranked wide receiver was in fantasy other than lamb in 2023. I'm on it. I am. I'm now curious, Kyle, get on this. What is the highest ranked wide receiver two for a wide receiver who finished as the one? The that's for Kyle. That's a guy. That's a guy. And if he was wrong, you put him in the sand trap. Well, you were definitely wrong because number two in targets that year, that would have been tight end. Jake Ferguson, for Galicia's great receiver numbers. Number three, that was, that was the brand of cooks. I catch a touchdown every week at the end of the year season. Okay. But he only had 657 yards. Yeah. So not, not a big, not a George Pickens. No, not well, that's, I said he was, he was definitely better. If you take Ferguson and cooks numbers and you smash them together, you get George Pickens. Let me ask you a question, Jason. Okay. What CD lamb a disappoint the last year? Yeah, I mean, for sure. I think mostly because of the injury. I think if the injury did not happen, he would not have been a mostrous disappointment. Lowest points for game since his rookie season. Yeah. I mean, the process as someone who had him and, and, you know, you had a full goose in one of his games that kind of brings down that average game. He got injured. He played 9% of snaps had zero for zero for zero and that's averaged into all those points and the final week of the final week. Why did you do that? Did you ever think about like asking? Yeah, he shouldn't. I mean, honestly, it hurt. You're supposed to get hurt at the end of the game. Everybody knows that. Yeah. And Jay, just a reminder of the final week of the season that gaming is that was like fake. It was a fake game. That played half of it. It was garbage. So, so are you taking on my raw ahead of him every time? Ahead of CDLAM. Yes. Every time, every time. But it just like when you, if you take those games out of the average, it's still not going to, it's still going to be a lower than you were expecting for CDLAM, but it, well here, put it this way. When he came back from the injury, so he's obviously coming back from injury, maybe not be at full strength, the 10 games minus that final game, all of those, uh, George Pickett's was in, right? So this is like the purest stretch of maybe what we can look forward to next year. That 10 game stretch, he would have had 98 receptions for 1446 yards. That's pretty darn good. Yeah. That's pretty good. The, um, I think there's a special six names. I think that you just got to the end of it. I think this is where a line is drawn. Yeah. And you start to be more speculative about your success. Yes. Because my number six, um, or I'm sorry, yeah, my number six, I put it in there, but you're going to have a lot of people disagreeing with that. I'm, which we'll get there soon. Uh, Oh, Oh, I just saw it. Um, by the way, Kyle, did you, did you announce the official, Kyle figured that out? Oh really? I have 2016. Jordy Nelson was the wide receiver one when Devonte was the wide receiver eight. That is the highest. Okay. That's why it gets paid to George. You got your job to do number seven on our consensus rankings, uh, seven for me, eight for Jason, nine for Mike, Drake London. You know, the questions around Jake Drake London have nothing to do with him. It's Kyle a computer. He has a computer. Cause I know he went back to Atlanta and then I'm like, I don't, we haven't seen him in person because he comes up with this stuff. So he did live here for a long time as a human. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm saying posts. You're saying he became maybe someone's replaced the lawnmower man. Um, Drake London is, I mean, to me, it's a similar argument. Like, if you have an argument against Jefferson, then you have an argument against London, except for Jefferson, I think is a better player than London. So in that regard, no disrespect to either player, right? You think Jefferson is great. I think London is great. I'm the highest of the three of us on London, but this is where you go from my, the special six names to I'm pretty sure it's going to work, but I'm not a hundred percent sure it's going to work. He was great. They have quarterbacks and their lefties and they've got a bunch of them and they are going to figure out what they're doing. Is it going to be Michael Pinnick's? Is the Pinnick experiment going to be temporary? Are we going to see Tua start the season? I don't know. Does the team know what it's doing? They lost their general manager that drafted Michael Pinnick. They don't, they don't know what they're doing. I will say this. Um, when Drake London was awesome before his injury in week 12, every single game he played, because he missed week eight, just like Michael Pinnick said, he played with Michael Pinnick. So I don't think it's the same argument necessarily for, we don't know what Kyler is going to bring to Jefferson. Pinnick's might not be that great, but this isn't like hypothetical. We saw what we, what weeks, because you had Drake London started the year horribly for the first three weeks. The first nine games played for Drake London through that. So he was on pace for 113 receptions, 1530 yards and 11 touchdowns. He was a, but he wasn't consistent. If you look at, you take a while looking at these games, he's got four games that were pretty disappointing. And then he was the wiser, she were five, the wiser, she were two, the wiser, she were one, the wiser, she were one, the wiser, she were seven, all those with Michael Pinnick. I understand. But Michael Pinnick's is not a guarantee, but he'd be the quarterback for the year. They could be changing him. So that's the point that I'm saying is that they're trying to figure it might be two at a start the year. It could be. Is that a significant downgrade to you? It's a significant question mark for me versus the top six names. That's all. I don't, I don't, what do we want? We want winning teams. Okay. Are they going to be a winning team? No, I would say that the good offense, top half offense are a better team than the Falcons. Yeah. And look, I have them ranked at seven. So again, we're only bringing up the negatives of the top 10. That's pretty much all we're doing is bringing up how it goes wrong. And I think there's a path for it to go wrong with him because it went wrong for Waddle and Tyreek with Tua. And for the, they're good players. What is this new offense is Drake London, like the top wide receivers, you move them around when you have top wide receivers with a good coach. So that that's where the argument is. Because Drake London was moved around a lot. And I guess that sounds like I'm saying the Atlanta coaches were good. They were, they at least moved them around and they put him in the slot. And he was very successful in there. In the slot only Pook and Rishi Rice had a higher target per route run. When he would run his routes from the slot. Will the new crew allow him to do that? This is a player, I think too, that is the most. I'm saying they have to because they don't have any, they, it's their death. It's the logical coaching fallacy that we fall for frequently. Who missed a lot of time last year and they had nobody else as well. So I wonder if they add somebody. I mean, they have to add someone. They have to. John Dodson is probably their pit second best. I mean, pits is pits is the number two target. But John Dodson, all of these, the Kias, Devin, Tompkins, Dylan, Drummond, like they, they don't, that one's made up. Yeah, I didn't think that. Look, no, they don't draft the wide receiver with their first or second pick. Right. Yeah. What happens then? Then probably their third. But what if they don't get them with the third? Okay. What other options would they have? They will consider using their fourth pick on one of the wide receivers who's left one week. And we'll find out. Number eight is Malik neighbors. And again, here we go. This one's me. My ranking is very aggressive. Yeah. Yeah. Mike has him at five. I've got him at 11. Jason at nine. Mike and I discuss this briefly in the studio. This was two different opinions on basically right now I'm going with, I'm waiting to see that he's healthy. To rank him higher. Mike is like, okay, as if he's healthy. I'm going to rank him here. I am, I'm getting more nervous by the day because the only news that seems to be coming out is not the glowing reports. Not ahead of schedule stuff. Yes. Not though, not the reports that you really want to see, you know, it's like in my initial going through these guys, I put Malik at five because I do fully believe that if Malik can be healthy enough in the, you know, in the off season or like the training camp and get up to full speed faster, you know, like by game three or so, I think he will be a true difference maker for your wide receiver crew. And he's being drafted at wide receiver seven right now and best ball. So the people who are putting money into their drafts are drafting him aggressively because they're, they're sharing the belief that I have of if he's healthy, it's a big if he's going to dominate. Like he, he will be incredible as we've never got to see Malik neighbors with Jackson. We've not got to see it at all because they had one throw down the sideline that he caught and tour his ACL. Like I've, I've personally already seen enough from Dart to go, yep, we can sustain. You give him Malik neighbors. This is the, this is the Jefferson type of player who's going to get a 30% target share and he's just such a strong wide receiver. Yeah. He's a freak athlete, a brilliant wide receiver that he's, he's going to end up in the top three, but the injury, it was in a reminder for everyone. It was not just ACL. It was ACL plus meniscus, which is far more complicated. Nice. Um, this is the meniscus add on our number one wide receiver is Jamar chase. And this is the closest of an athlete to Jamar chase in the rest of the NFL. The ability for him with the depth chart and his freakishness to finish as the number one wide receiver overall, I could see happen, but he does have some major flags against him. Obviously the injury. The other is the team. You know, we talked about, is this going to be a top half team? Is this going to be a great offense? Probably not. It was weird to see the, the one Jackson Dart week where he like did nothing at all in the passing game. What is the identity of the offense look like with a new head coach and offensive coordinator situation, but the talent is there. I'm holding back my enthusiasm until we get better progress reports on the injury. Let's take a break and then Jason's got a surprise. All right. At number nine in our top 15 early wide receiver rankings, it is Rashi Rice. I've got him at 12, Mike at 10. Jason's got him at six. There you go. He's got him ahead of Drake London, ahead of Malik neighbors. It's just a matter of if he's on the field. He's really good for fantasy. It doesn't upset me. We, we miss, you know, last year he obviously was suspended for the first six weeks and then later in the season, they lost Patrick Mahomes. I don't know if that, I think that Rashi wasn't even a part of those. He was out with concussions. Yeah, they're like, yeah, wrap it up. Let's go get that draft pick. Good job. Kansas city. That's, that's how you do it. But when he's on the field, he is the first read target. He is the chain mover. He is the end zone target now more than Kelsey. This is a player who scores a ton of fantasy points in all formats. He led the chiefs in red zone targets and receptions last year. He missed nine games. His pace was about one, one 12 for 12, 13, which makes sense with the low yards per catch and 10.6 touchdowns. They manufactured touchdowns for him. Let me tell you my, my good and bad of Rashi Rice. I don't know if he's as good of a player as he is on the chiefs in actuality. 100%. If he just went and played for somebody else. I feel like there are, there have been players on this team that you're like, I mean, I, again, none of us think McCall-Harvins a very good player. He's had his moments on the chiefs, right? When he's, when he's been a part of this offense, he's not Tyree Kill where when Tyree Kill changes teams, he's the best wide receiver in the league still. Yeah. And I'm not comparing rice with hard men. I'm just saying they draw up special plays. You talk about him being a red zone target. I think it's yes and no, unless when the chiefs, you're talking about him being a, like this is the guy they do the tap pass to. This is the guy they, you know, they do the pitch. They do all this drawn up special stuff for Rashi Rice with end arounds and things around the goal line. He's a weapon. He's their best weapon on offense right now. So that's the argument. Now, do we got a hundred percent of my homes in week one? Do we get a hundred percent of Rashi Rice all year? Those are different questions. Pick nine. Yeah. Like where the other guys are like, Hey, if, if they had a wide receiver to Jamar, I don't really care. Puka, you're like, maybe Jordan Tyson to the chiefs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What would you do then? These other guys, it doesn't matter, but Jordan Tyson at nine, a anyone at nine or lemon or tape any of the big three that changes things. I agree. I mean, that, that pick is monstrous. This is why Andy said at the top of the show, your answer to the quick question was the Kansas city chiefs in their draft capital. It's going to shuffle around what we believe of their entire offense. Now, hopefully it's an offensive lineman. He's wide receiver 11 in best ball drafts. They're taking a wide out. He's a wide receiver 11 in best ball drafts. That puts the, you know, your, your gap puts them in that my guy territory today. Like, you know what I mean? Not that you would pick them. It's just that in the disparity between where players are being taken and where you would take them. That's a guy you have a lot of confidence in. Yeah. I mean, compared to consensus for sure. If, if, if they take a wide receiver at nine, which they very well might, um, I would lower him significantly from the standpoint of he's not the only real asset to lead the way for them. Um, and also I would move him even lower in dynasty because that to me would mark a, he's an unrestricted free agent at the end of the year. Sure. They could franchise him. He wants JSN money. The chiefs don't want to and are paying my homes. You can, he's not going to get JSN money. I don't believe. And so I think that it, and he carries some, some off the field issues from time to time. Now it's worth saying from time to time, every now and again, especially the and again part. Um, it's worth noting that all of the worries of the latest allegation are, have been checked out by the NFL. They said there's no issue and he is not getting a suspension. The commissioner's exemplars is interested in him. Right. They are, they're, they're looking, they're monitoring man. Um, George is number 10. George Pickens comes in at number 10. It was a special, special year for George Pickens. I guess one of the questions I have for you, uh, where do we have it? I got him at eight, Mike at eight, Jason at 13. Maybe Jason answered it with that ranking, but is it, was that just like a combination of that lamb injury with a free agent season, 1400 yards, nine touchdowns, 93 catches. How close to that can he really get this season? I think he can still get extremely close. Uh, he is one of the, like CD lamb has the, the built in if one of the, you know, like if CD lamb misses time, George Pickens is awesome. If Pickens misses time, CD lamb is awesome. So like, and then when they're both healthy, they're both very good. They're both awesome. Yeah. So I mean, you can't have CD lamb and George Pickens both putting up 1700 yards that just that won't happen. But the, the, the consistency of having him with DAC and DAC is just such a fantasy friendly quarterback. I keep my confidence up of what, what I watched George Pickens do on the field. Yeah. I mean, I, uh, I shared it in my CD lamb. I think CD lamb is, is the dominant one here. George Pickens is awesome. He was a my guy for me last year because I thought he was being under drafted and he matches DAC perfect. The things that Pickens does matches what they need for that wide receiver two, but the inflated numbers from last year are in part because of that injury, the injury to CD lamb. Those weeks, two of those three weeks, he was the wide receiver one and the wide receiver two, his 17 game pace from those three weeks would have been over 2000 yards and 22 touchdowns. Like it were monstrous weeks. He got both CD and George's combined stats, but I do agree with Mike. It's not a bad idea when you draft these guys cause should either one go down to an injury, the other will get inflated. Nico Collins at number 11. Oh man. Where's Mike have them 12. Oh man. You hate Nico. So Nico is Nico is weird because you don't necessarily feel good about the offense. You definitely don't. I mean, they have gotten worse in like their yards per game totals. Like in 2023, the breakout year, they were 12th, then they went to 22nd and 18th last year. Stroud really gave people just a lot of hesitancy around the offense, but Nico's awesome. I mean, like in spite, it's a very much in spite of situation. Nico gets it done. He's always a threat for 10 touchdowns last year. He underwhelmed there. He only had six. So I feel like with the physicality that he brings to the table, that's always in up there. He missed some time, couple games, still hit a thousand yards, 71 for 11, 17 and six. It's pretty simple to me. Nico is awesome. I don't want to play against Nico Collins in my fantasy matchup because he can go ham, but this is not a word. I feel like this might even be the first guy. Well, George as well. They aren't the type of guys that are getting 100 receptions. You know, Nico's going to go out there and get probably 80 receptions. Now they're deep bomb shots. Yeah, it's Mike Evans numbers. Yeah, exactly. And I just prefer the volume and the consistency of others, but I love Nico. The fact, so right now, again, everything we referenced for ADP right now is going to be underdog on BestBall. But so his ADP, talking about Nico's wide receiver 10 going at the 302 and George is going at the 212. The fact that a person with an early first round pick can take Gibbs and then oh, look, look who's there for my next two selections. George Pickens and Nico Collins. That feels a bit unfair. I do feel confident. Like we always ask the question every year. Do you like that guy being your number one? Yeah, I do. I'm fine with Nico being my number one. Yeah, he does feel the third round is crazy. That's special. He would. I mean, he's had, what was it? Was it not last year, but the year before he was the number one through like the first 12 weeks or something like that? I mean, before he had the hamstring. Okay, so the first five weeks, sorry, before he went down in 2024, I believe he was sitting at like number one. He was averaging a lot of points. He was averaging 18 points. I mean, he scored. He scored seven times that year and he missed five games last year was an outlier in the touchdown number. I mean, he had, I think he can get to double digit. Let's put it that way. Yeah, I think so, especially with the way, you know, he's got deep shots all the time that can be housed for touchdowns. He had a six game stretch last year, weeks 10 through 15, where he was just dominating deep shots. He was on pace for 1600 yards. I mean, he's great. And I would agree. I would be comfortable with him with my one. He was outscored by this next player in our rankings. We'll have who I don't feel good as my number one will have almost for sure more targets and receptions should they both play full seasons. And I agree with you, Andy. I don't feel as confident with him as my number one. Yeah, I don't know what it is, but it's Chris Olavi. Chris Olavi had the bounce back here. I got him a 14, Jason at 10, Mike at 11, you know, Tyler Schuck opens up our minds. I've seen enough. Yeah. I mean, he's a really good player. It's weird because I don't know if it was the fact he didn't win rookie of the year and took it away from him. I feel like I haven't heard as much buzz about him this off season, but he brings a ton of potential. Kelly Moore, we love that. Tyler Schuck, very capable. Well, he was the season 155 target place, but a hundred, but 15.8 fantasy points per game with Schuck. The season opened with Spencer Rattler. And even with that, they were putting up in terms of passing yards per game. They were at 21, which honestly, that's not too bad for, I mean, that says a lot to what Kellen Moore gives us for fantasy football. Tyler Schuck, I mean, it's just, we're at seven, the seventh most passing yards per game for a second round rookie. I mean, I feel more comfortable with Olavi as my one than you guys do. My only thing is the concussions. It really is. That's it. Because I believe he is, I believe Chris Olavi is a true wide receiver one in the NFL. Like he is such a blood clot last year than two. I don't remember. He missed the, remember, we were like, he's finally going to play 18 games. Oh, that's right. He missed the final game. That was very similar to James Cawd in his lung. Yeah, that's what I thought. In early January, 2026, forcing him to miss the season finale. Yeah, that's what it was. Yeah. I mean, that, the issue is the fear of his body. He is so talented. He's got great hands. What do you have? What's wrong with his body? Yeah, I think so. Really have that? Is it? Is that this? Yeah, that was Christian McCaffrey. How to work out for Mike. How to work out for Mike. We're just leaving that. We're just gonna take that graphic off. We're just gonna, it's gonna leave Jason up. There we go. Took me a sec to find it. That's funny. What was wrong with your? Nevermind. It's a bee. It's a bumblebee stung by a series of a swarming allergy bees. But yeah, what week did Tyler, he almost died, Andy. And he came in and did a podcast. What? Yeah, I know what a guy and then I complained about someone else's body. It's not lost on me. Your allergic reaction lasted years. Yeah, it was a real bad problem. From the original sting. That was a good five years. I'm hoping. When were you stung? 97? The antihistamines just started working the last time. I'm really hoping the antihistamines stick. Oh man. So we used to have a good time. Back to Olavé. If you look at when Chuck took over, he started in week nine. Wasn't a great game. He was the Y receiver 44. The next week it was the wide receiver, wide receiver six. It was the bees. Wide receiver 23, wide receiver 19. These are great games. Down week, wide receiver 51, then 12, then wide receiver two, then the wide receiver two. He was really, really good with Chuck. They are another team, I think at eight that is looking to add one of these big guys. I've commonly put Carnell Tate bringing the Ohio State boys together. Oh man. And he falls there past the Browns. Tyler Shuck with Olavé and Carnell Tate. Yeah, that's thumbs up for Shuck and it probably doesn't hurt Olavé either. It just makes the offense better. I would wonder how we would view the situation with the risk of Olavé's injuries and then the top 10 pick for a guy like Tate. Who would you take? It was nice to see him play up to his talent last year. Yeah, yes. Finally got to see it because this is a guy that when he was coming out was like, it was him and Garry Wilson same year, right? Yep. Same team, same year. I remember feeling stupid because I was like, I think, he doesn't have as strong a body, but I liked Olavé's route running more and I thought he was in the same caliber. And this year, he really, Garry Wilson. Yeah, yeah. Olavé was awesome coming out of college. It's just been a bumpy road. Yeah. Filled with their car and other things. But the Kellen Moore Shuck combo. That's what does it for me because Kellen Moore is great for fantasy. Tate McMillan at 13, T. Higgins at 14. Let's talk about both of them. I've got Tate at nine. Wow, really? Mike Hasen at 18, Jason at 12. I'm the reason he's up at 13 here. Look, it's time. I mean, last year was a good, not fantasy dominant, but obviously a rookie of the year winning, offensive player of the year winning season 70 for 10, 14, and 7. To me, he just profiles as a guy that's going to continue to take the step forward. What we saw in the field last year was a player that at times could be completely dominant, but it was few and far between. It wasn't as good of a, like he was wide receiver 17 last year. It was very hit and miss. He had some really down games. His consistency score was a C, which is 41% of the time above 10 and a half. That's exactly the kind of player that I look at as a potential breakout. Because when you are, if you can finish at 17 with a C consistency score, all you got to do is what? Turn a few of those down games into more consistency and you're in the top 12, top 10. So to me, he is, he's the candidate that jumped out to me in the top 20 of, you know, maybe for Jason, it was that Rashi Rice 11 to 6. To me, it was tech going from four, I mean, he's 14 and underdog. So I'm right there with underdog. It's just, I have no problem with the evaluation of the player. Everything for me is Bryce Young, who is going into year four and last year, four long years, the last, it was like, this is 12 years better year. In year three, Bryce Young finally hit 188 passing yards per game. Yeah, baby. That's the problem for, and he pulled off a wide receiver 17 as a rookie with that. Incredible. That I'm just the, I'm concerned about how far up can he actually go. And it makes sense that I'm sitting in between you guys in the rankings because in here and here at the table, uh, because Ted Arora had, he showed out his rookie year given the bad quarterback play. I'm so impressed. 25% target share, 25% target share, one of only 12 rookie wide receivers in the last decade to have a thousand yards in their rookie season. Right now it feels like, if you don't get that, you're not good. Most people don't get that. The list of guys who, who have put up a thousand in their rookie years. I mean, Mark didn't get it. Yeah, exactly. Is, is usually a who's who of who breaks out for fantasy going forward. The Bryce Young problem is real and he's going to have to step up. But I also don't think, you know, we've seen this with, we've been talking about this with the, the horse child, um, aka T law, Trevor Lawrence. Um, man, the, I don't know, ladies and gentlemen, if at home, if you saw and got duped, oh, I, I did, I know where you're going. Yeah, you got duped. I did. There was a Trevor Lawrence, every off season, there's a Trevor Lawrence cut his hair. There was a Trevor Lawrence cut his hair. Every off season looked so good and he looked so good. Not like a horse. No, like a man. He looked, you're like, this dude's going to be on magazines. Yeah. And it turned, I mean, it was fake. It was fake. Yeah. A lot of haircut things can happen with AI now. Listen, Ted Arora last year, speaking to the Bryce Young problem, but also a rookie also figuring things out. Ken Bryce Young, take a step forward. Guys like Jamar Chase Puka, Nuku, Almanra, Saint Brown, their catch rate, Almanra and Chase, 68%. Puka, 78%. 57% last year for Ted Arora, McMillan. So the targets, I can do, I can do that. I guarantee that was a huge part of the quarterback for those first few guys. The thing is, is if 57% that scales up with the targets go up and 122, you got a lot of room up. He's got it. If Bryce Young doesn't take a substantial step forward, then McMillan has to be up at about 30% of the targets. And I just, I don't know if that will happen. All right. We got to talk about T Higgins. I love Ted Arora, McMillan. I think that him on a strong team, he'd be in the top 12. They could win the division. I mean, they definitely could do that. Ted Arora, we just talked about him. T Higgins, Mike, you are always all about T Higgins. That's why it's so weird that you're the lowest of the three of us. Classic. I call it a classic. Rankin' these guys without the actual statistics was very hard. I mean, this is not a guy I would ever feel comfortable as my wide receiver won, ever. Right. Nor do the Bengals. Play to win. But, you know, it's, don't look at the first six weeks when they didn't have a quarterback situation. Don't look at the two weeks he missed because he's always hurt a little bit. But look at all the other weeks. I mean, this is a, This is Ken Walker. This is Ken Walker of the wide receivers, which is why these are both players beloved by Mike. There are easy statistical narratives to paint as to why he is a phenomenal fantasy asset. He has monstrous fantasy games. His split is really a good player. He's a really good player. His splits in healthy games where you've got Jamar Chase active and burrow active and we've got to throw this one in too. Higgins plays the whole game. Yeah. Doesn't get injured midway or super early in the game because that's happened way too many times. When those things, which should be normal things happen when Jupiter aligns, good. He's so good. And the thing is, as you go, well, shouldn't most games be like burrow, Higgins and Chase are just playing football? Yeah. When that happens, he's great for fantasy. Just doesn't happen a lot. I mean, do you think it's a surprise that he signs an extension that says you get a very substantial per game check if you play and he appears in 15 games, his highest since 2022? Look, I don't want money talks and it walks. Apparently do not love that this man missed two separate games with concussion and also seemed like he had a game where he needed to miss to us on the outside. It looked like he got concussed at least three times in a singular game, but he, he's such a good player. This is, the Bengals and Dallas, they are the same, same. Both wide receivers on those teams, I would love to have them. All right. Our last name. He's still here. AJ Brown at 15 to finish out our early wide receiver rankings. It's crazy. It's crazy. He was the wide receiver 10 last year. He missed two games. He's like, ah, no, I don't want them. The Eagles don't want them either. Nobody like, ah, we're done with AJ Brown. He's pretty darn good. He is an alpha. I'd be, I feel like you could have him as your wide receiver one for your fantasy team and be okay. Does he rank higher or lower on the higher on the Patriots? That's what I was going to say. Yes, for sure. I don't think he'll be an eagle. I don't, every time I see a press conference or a conversation, I think they are perfectly handled with the, he's an eagle, which is a fact. He's an eagle. Yep. We know. Well, he's actually a human. Well, okay. Yeah. I don't think they meant that biologically speaking. I think it's more about, that's their team. Maybe they should clarify and name. Yeah. We just thank you, Mike. Words matter on this show. He was wide receiver 10 in spite of a horse child. To mulch. That one is different. That was biologic. I want to make that clear. I believe he's, in fact, we might have a horse. We might have a picture of him. I'm not sure. But yeah, AJ Brown in spite of, I mean, I think the clock is ticking. I think we all know that. I think in dynasty, I'm not enthusiastic about this situation. He'll be 29 this year when he plays. He also just, he comes across as the dude that's just like, when it's over, it's over. I'm just going to. Yeah. Those big wide receivers have a habit of being done at the end. I don't think he is though. Not done. He could, he could carry an offense. Yes. I think he could carry an offense. Those big broad shoulders. We're all, we're all really excited for the potential of all the rumors of him going to the Patriots. I don't know that that's not team Romeo doves over here, but you do. Of course you're not. Of course you would prioritize Romeo doves over AJ Brown. If Romeo doves were on your dynasty team right now, you would say the exact same thing. Jason, you don't have any Drake may exposure that wants to see him take the next step. I don't own a dynasty that we have. I've got the horse. So get out of your brown. Oh yeah. Weird, weird that you're talking up AJ Brown. All right. Let me, let me fire off these names because we got it. We got to shut it down. Garrett Wilson at 16 Adams at 17 James Sedolames at 18. Say flowers at 19 and Luther burden at 20 on our initial rankings. Devonte Smith at 21. Evans, Ebuca back to back at 22 23. Not on the same team anymore. And Terry McClaren at 24 to round out those early wide receiver rankings. So we're going to shut it down, but we'll be back draft week next week. Join the okay. Oh my goodness. That's a new haircut. Yeah. That's the horse man. He did cut his main. Thank you for listening to another episode of the fantasy footballers podcast. 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