How Did This Get Made?

Last Looks: My Secret Santa

38 min
Jan 9, 20265 months ago
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Summary

This episode of How Did This Get Made? Last Looks features listener corrections and omissions for the film My Secret Santa, includes a clip from Jason Mantzoukas's appearance on Ted Danson's podcast discussing acting and improvisation, and announces the next movie to be reviewed: Monkey Bone (2001).

Insights
  • Script logic issues in films can often be solved through minimal rewrites rather than reshoots, as demonstrated by listener suggestions for My Secret Santa's plot coherence
  • Improvisation in acting requires genuine curiosity and discovery rather than pre-planned jokes, with the best moments emerging organically from scene dynamics
  • Actors experience significant self-criticism when reviewing their own performances, often unable to see their work objectively due to internal awareness of their choices
  • Community engagement through Discord and listener submissions creates valuable collaborative film analysis and strengthens audience investment in the show
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Increased audience engagement in collaborative film criticism through community platforms and Discord channelsGrowing interest in behind-the-scenes actor conversations about craft, improvisation techniques, and character developmentShift toward highlighting diverse representation and DEI content in media review platformsRevival of cult classic films with mixed critical reception gaining renewed appreciation through podcast analysisPodcast cross-promotion and guest appearances becoming standard content strategy for entertainment shows
Topics
Film Script Logic and Plot CoherenceImprovisation Techniques in ActingCharacter Development and Secret RevealsMedia Review Standards and DEI ContentCommunity-Driven Film AnalysisActor Self-Criticism and Performance ReviewStreaming Platform AccessibilityNepotism in Film and TelevisionPodcast Guest Appearances and Cross-PromotionComedy Timing and Comedic Discovery
Companies
Netflix
Discussed as platform for A Man on the Inside season two, featuring Jason Mantzoukas and Ted Danson
Common Sense Media
Media review platform discussed for its DEI content auditing and progressive approach to media evaluation
Amazon
Referenced as platform where listeners can review and purchase films discussed on the podcast
Apple TV
Streaming platform where Monkey Bone can be rented for viewing
Fandango
Platform offering Monkey Bone rental through Fandango at Home service
Hoopla
Free streaming app through public libraries offering Monkey Bone for streaming
People
Ted Danson
Actor and podcast host discussing acting craft, improvisation, and character work on A Man on the Inside and The Good...
Jason Mantzoukas
Actor and How Did This Get Made co-host discussing improvisation techniques and character curiosity in guest appearance
Paul Shear
How Did This Get Made host and creator of Swiftie Dads documentary, discussing podcast production and personal projects
Brendan Fraser
Star of Monkey Bone (2001), the next film to be reviewed on the podcast
John Krasinski
Actor mentioned by Ted Danson as keeping The Good Place twist secret during production
Woody Harrelson
Sometimes co-host of Ted Danson's Where Everybody Knows Your Name podcast
Henry Selick
Director of Monkey Bone, also known for The Nightmare Before Christmas
Quotes
"Stay fucking curious. And that is, and I will say one of the things that all my like all my characters have, it is deep curiosity."
Jason MantzoukasTed Danson podcast segment
"The camera knows whether you are truly in a position to surprise yourself because you don't know what's coming."
Ted DansonTed Danson podcast segment
"I'm so much more comfortable on a set that I can improvise on than a set that requires me to be kind of word perfect."
Jason MantzoukasTed Danson podcast segment
"Somewhere in between is probably true. So better to be there."
Ted DansonTed Danson podcast segment
Full Transcript
Human Nonsense, Ted Danson, and Paul Shear with Swiftie Dads. All this and more on today's How Did This Get Made? Last Looks. Hit the theme! Hello all you hot cocoa lovers out there who are horny for Santa. I'm your host, Hugh Mann. I mean, Paul Shear. And welcome to How Did This Get Made? Last Looks, where you the listener get to voice your issues on My Secret Santa. A movie that Discord user Dove thinks should have had the tagline, It's Not Hugh, It's Me. I love that. That's really good. Why isn't that in the movie? That's like easy pickings. That's great. I mean, by the way, that should have been the tagline of the movie. Well, I guess it would be a confusing tagline because you didn't know. But here's the thing. It's great. Dove, you killed it. You killed it with that tagline. Now, also, I'm having a hard time right here because Dove is a character in a book that I just read tomorrow, tomorrow and tomorrow, which is a great book. Check it out. It's it's beautiful. It's a it's a story about platonic friendship. It's also a story about just partnership and video games. And it was one of my favorite reads in a long time. And I cried multiple times. I haven't cried reading a book in a very long time. It's great. Check it out. And again, you don't need like a PSA from me to check out a book because I believe this book was a hugely successful book of last year. Like when I opened up the paperback, there's just pages of great accolades that this book has achieved. So anyway, I love that book. You should check it out. Also, I don't know if you've heard of it, but Catching the Rye, a pretty cool book. Yeah, you should you like it. You know, I read it. I'm like kind of on the inside. Yeah, I don't need to give you any more book recommendations, but I'm reading the martyr now, which is also a plus. I'm reading good books. You know, I hear here's my theory. You always say I want to read more books in the new year or maybe you don't. I do. And if I can get like the amount of books that I want to read done early, then I won't let myself down at the end of the year when I found that I didn't read as many books as I wanted. But I gave myself a goal this year. Five books. I normally do more than that, but five books. I can I can achieve that. Anyway, that's about me and my reading. Oh, God, she loves talking about his reading. Anyway, a big shout out to latex drool for that opening theme song. Unfortunately, the screaming kittens were too busy to make a song for us. Yeah, apparently the lead singer is in love. And you know what? Honestly, I just don't think that she ever really cared about the band anyway. I mean, she had that kid and just quit the band. I mean, they would never achieve mainstream success with that kind of laxadaisical attitude. So anyway, latex drool, you are way better than screaming kittens ever were. We appreciate you stepping in. Remember, if you have an alt movie tagline or you have a song for this show, it's so easy to get us the information we need. Alt movie taglines, corrections and omissions. That all happens on the discord. Discord.gg slash HD TGM. And if you're submitting a song, just go to our website. HD TGM.com. There's a little button. It says submit a song. You click on that. You upload the song. Keep it short. Keep it nice. 15 to 20 seconds is best. And by the way, manageable. Um, coming up on today's show, we got some really fun stuff to do. Uh, yes, we're going to get to your corrections and omissions on my secret Santa. I actually saw that the lead actress of my secret Santa was, uh, commenting on, uh, on one of our posts, um, which always gives me a little bit of a nervous energy, but she seems that she's really into it and she wanted to explain some of the choices made in secret Santa, but I would recommend this. Uh, she seems like a super cool person. And if you go to her page, she's got some of the makeup, uh, and costume tests for the film. And there's a image of her and her Santa costume dancing around, which just is disturbing and great. And I love it. So check her out. I'm not going to tell you her name because I don't remember it off the top of my head, but, um, you can figure it out. You can do the math. Um, also guess who's coming on the show today. Ted dancing. Yeah. You know, Ted dancing from cheers, from the good place, from the man on the inside. Well, anyway, Jason went on Ted's podcast and we took a little portion of that and we're going to put it on this podcast. So if you've never listened to Ted's show, you can get a little taste of it. Maybe you want to follow it up later, but more importantly, if you love Jason, uh, you're going to hear the two of them talk about the good place, the man on the inside, and so much more. Plus we'll also reveal the movie for next week's episode. Now. I got a big announcement, a personal announcement. Um, back in 2023, I was obsessed with these dads who were hanging out in the parking lot at Taylor Swift concerts. They were in their cargo shorts. They were checking their phone. They were just kind of pacing. Uh, and they were all waiting for their daughters to get out of the show. So I had this idea. I want to go talk to these dads. I thought it was going to be like this funny thing, like these dads just miserable, you know, at this concert, not really loving, you know, Taylor Swift or anything about it, but just having to be there. And I went down to SoFi and within the first 15 minutes, I realized, Oh, I have this all wrong. And I captured something that I think is really interesting. I went there for about two or three nights, talked to a bunch of different people. Um, we were going to make this into a feature film, not this short, but this was a kind of this magical thing, magical. It was this thing that just I happened on because I wanted to do a little funny bit. But then I found something a little bit deeper. We were actually going to blow it up into a bigger movie that had a much bigger scope and that all fell apart. Um, but I realized I never released the original mini doc, the mini doc that actually got us financing for this feature. So I wanted to put it up and I did. And your response to it has been amazing. Uh, thank you so much for watching it. Thank you for commenting on it. If you've not watched it, you can watch it on my website, PaulShere.com or on my YouTube or on the dark web YouTube. It's very easy. Uh, just type in PaulShere talks to Taylor Swift dads. And, um, and if you liked it, share it. Um, you know, I, it was really fun. It just fun to just go out with a camera and shoot stuff and just find something. Um, so yeah, so thank you. Hope you check it out. You don't have to be a Swiftie fan. That's the other thing. You don't have to be a Swiftie fan. People are like, I don't like Taylor Swift. First of all, let's take that out of the equation. This is about. Parents and children. And this is about. Concert going. It covers a lot of different stuff. So if you have been a child, if you are a parent, if you've ever been to a concert, I think it will resonate with you. So, uh, and also. I will say that the, the thing that Taylor Swift did. With this concert, it just blew my mind. I never experienced anything else like this at a concert. So anyway, uh, check out that little mini doc. It's only like 15 minutes. You watch it on your phone. It's fine. I'm not mad at it. I'm not over here like, uh, Christopher Nolan or something. Um, so yeah, watch it any which way you want. And finally, you could check out dinosaur improv back at Largo on January 24th. Okay. Uh, January 24th. We're back at Largo and Jason and I will be together on the scam goddess podcast on January 13th. Woo. A lot of plugs there. A lot of plugs, but all good, interesting plugs. So we're giving you a lot of free content is what we're saying. Anyway, that's all the plugs. Let's get into it. Last week we talked at length about my secret Santa. We had questions and we might have even missed a few things. Here's your chance to set us straight. Fact check us if you will. It is now time for corrections and omissions. Oh, thank you to the brash menagerie for that pop punk theme. By the way, brash menagerie. Love that. Let's go to the discord. Nick's rights. A lot of logic issues in this movie could have been solved if instead of starting the movie showing Taylor getting fired from a place that has no relevance to the rest of the movie, she was getting fired from working in the kitchen at the resort. You don't need to reshoot the scene. You just don't establish an irrelevant place. It makes it so much cleaner if the employee discount plot was part of the reason why she was working in the kitchen, gives herself a reason to disguise herself there to continue the discount. And really the only changes it makes is that Tia Maori threatening her at the end would make sense. I mean, it would be great if Tia was the one who fired her. Oh my gosh, next, you nailed it. Lizard writes, why was Tia Maori so insistent on unmasking Santa in front of all the children? I mean, I know she wanted to make Matthew look bad so she could get his job, but I imagine she surely would get fired from the bad publicity from her going crazy and yelling that Santa is a fake. She seems so determined to ruin the hotel after she doesn't get the promotion. And by the way, who is she fighting against? The owner's son. It wasn't even a fair. Of course he's going to get it. I'm sorry, but nepotism is here to stay. Johnny unusual writes the name Hugh man as a wacky fake name was used in a classic episode of Futurama where an alien uses a flimsy disguise to out with the buffoonish Zapp Branigan. Now, I don't mean to imply this is stolen, but rather my concern is that as a wacky name, human doesn't really work in the context of the movie. The Futurama, the gag is that a alien is taking a ridiculously literal pseudonym, but Taylor isn't pretending to be a human. She's pretending to be a man. Human would work for, you know, maybe a Christmas elf who is trying to be a human or a reindeer pretending to be a person. But for a woman, wouldn't something like manly or mass Q lane or Harry chest make more sense by the way, hire Johnny unusual people manly. Harry chest. I mean, mass Q lane is pushing it, but the other two perfect. Let's go to Johnny from Pittsburgh. Hey guys, I just listened to the newest episode on my secret Santa and apparently you were right about the egg old IMDB review. It looks like his dad is J. Egg old James Egg old. So his dad wrote that really sweet review about how heartwarming film it is. Anyway, love you guys. Bye. Thank you, Johnny. And yeah, we figured it out. That's right. It's his dad. And you know what? God bless his dad for doing that. That is some perfect dad energy. Again, we're kind of tying together the Swiftie dads thing and this. I love it all. Dads get out there and support your kids by getting on Amazon and getting the word out. Okay. Next up is Meredith. Hi, my name is Meredith and I just listened to you. My secret Santa episode and you mentioned comments and media, the website for parents to review media that their children might be watching and you called it like a conservative website. I work part time for them as a media reviewer and they're absolutely not a conservative website. They're actually super liberal. What I do for them is actually audit the media reviews that exist for DEI content. So I add DEI content. I add a new section called diverse representations where I get to talk about if there's a very positive queer relationship. I got to talk about that in a very positive way. If there's great black representation or disability representation, I get to talk about that. If there's a something problematic in the media, like a woman's being called a slut, I get to add that as something negative. And I've been doing this for common sense media for, I'd say about four years. They have a huge program to not only audit every single media review they have, but to include all of these standards and guidelines in new media. So they are actually really liberal and progressive. It is for parents to review media that their kids might watch, but in an informed, educated way and not in a conservative policing way. You might go look at some of the media reviews. Like I did avatar, I did JAWS, I did 51st date. And you can kind of see that diverse representations and how we're able to call out things that are negative in terms of DEI and then also support progressive DEI representation. So it's actually a really fantastic, very positive, very liberal company. Thanks for listening. Have a good day. All right. Okay. I Meredith, I am sorry about that. I thought that they were conservative and I'm happy to hear that they highlight great DEI and call it negative DEI. That's great. And Mark Kiserman comes to slam me as well. It says that common sense media, when you get a 10 plus on common sense media, that isn't a quality rating. That just means it's suitable for ages 10 and older. Oh, oh, man, I really misread the whole thing. And Mark also says, I love every episode. I'm excited to see Jason on Broadway next month. Well, Mark, by the way, there's another plug for you. Jason will be on Broadway in all out, I believe it's called. It's great. Check out Jason on Broadway. Great cast running through there. Kind of like just a who's who of great, funny people. All right. So sorry about common sense media. My mistake. We are now working in a different place. So thank you, Meredith, for correcting me. Back to the discord. Why is Matthew in the locker room when Hugh Mann is taken there by Santa self? I mean, Hugh just got the job in the lobby with Matthew only moments earlier. So why was Matthew naked and putting his work clothes back on after he just met Hugh in the lobby? I mean, did he run into the locker room and take off his clothes just to drop towel in front of Santa? I mean, that's kind of sexual harassment. Steve, you're 100% right. I mean, Matthew is fucking freaky. He is a real freaky motherfucker. I didn't realize it was just right. I thought there was like some time had passed, but I guess you're right. I guess it was just immediate. And you know what? When you got to take off your clothes and show off your schlong, you got to do it. And that's that is the God given right of any Nepo baby. Do not question it. And before we close up corrections and omissions, let's go back to the phone line to hear from a couple of folks calling in about the Howdy Awards. Oh, yes, the Howdy Awards is back. We want to do a new thing now where we're going to start doing the Howdy Awards again, but we want to keep track of it. So when you hear something that could be a Howdy moment, let us know. Maybe we even start a little forum on the discord Howdy moment. Just submit a nomination for a Howdy moment. You don't need to explain it more to say in this episode, this moment. And then that way at the end of the year, if you have a time code, whoo, it'd be great. But, uh, by the end of the year, it'd be way easier for us to do and not, we wouldn't just put it off for nine years. Anyway, anonymous, uh, take it away. I noticed during the latest Howdy's that in terms of international guests, uh, you mentioned many people, but did not refer to Seth Rogan as an international guest. My question is, are you, or I should say, is how did this get made standing with President Trump in trying to make Canada the 51st state? Is that your, your way of signaling that? Just thought I had. Appreciate you. Wow. Wow. Okay. First of all, look, I, I, you know, I'm wrong. I'm taking a lot of hits today. I know Seth is Canadian. I respect, uh, Seth's Canadian heritage. I believe that Canada should stay where it is, should not be part of our country. Now, Greenland, I got a whole different opinion on Greenland. Let's fucking, let's take it. Let's take it. Let's take it all. Let's take it all. No, but Canada gets to stay. I love Canada, love our Canadians. Uh, and, uh, I apologize. And you know what? It's my, my ineptitude of, uh, geography. Uh, and I, I take full credit for this. So I apologize, uh, to Seth Rogen, but I believe that Seth Rogen was nominated though too for that category. He was, I know he was. Anyway, uh, Liz from Detroit. What do you got? Hi, um, I'm a doctor. So I'm answering your call, um, for an answer of where does the butt start? Um, my impression was what you were asking was sort of like, where does the butt start from the front? Like where does crotch end and butt begin? Which is a very good question. Um, and the simple answer to that is that we have, um, this lovely little strip of tissue, um, in our public region is called the perineum. Um, see every genitalia, genitalia stop, then you have perineum or more commonly known, uh, the taint, um, and then you will have your, um, anus. So I would say technically where the butt starts is where the anus starts. Now as to the other end, I think that's where people are getting confused as they were asking where it started on like from the, from the back end. And I guess the answers that you got were, I guess, technically correct. Um, if we're thinking of gluteal region and butt as kind of synonymous, um, your gluteal muscles do, um, originate from the ilium, specifically the iliac crest, um, which is the top part of your pelvic bone. And so, um, I won't go into any more detail than that because anatomists are annoying and anatomy is annoying. But, um, yeah. So I would say, um, overall, I don't know, I kind of have a holistic view of like the, the butt region. I would say includes butt cheeks, um, butt crack or gluteal crust. And but full or enough. So that is where the butt starts. Um, all right. Thank you. Have a wonderful day. So. All right. Liz throwing. Well, where were you? Where were you for the howdy's? We should have started with you. That's a better and less, uh, perturbed explanation. I appreciate that, Liz. I salute you from the top of the head, uh, which is where the, where the salute starts. I don't know. Uh, thank you, Liz. Thank you to our anonymous Canadian. These are important, uh, corrections to get out there. So many great corrections and omissions this week. A lot of them coming after me, uh, which, you know, look, I, you know, I, I get, but I, I think to me, you know, I want to go and celebrate the, the corrections and omissions that really stand out, the ones that do a little bit more of the work. I'm going to say that this week Nixd and Johnny unusual get to split the awards because they effectively rewrote the movie in about eight lines or less. And you know what? I wish I could give you your own, uh, whatever Netflix movie, but I can't. I can only give you this song from the amazing bears and love hit it. If you want to chime in with your own thoughts or the latest episode, hit up our discord or call us at 619 PAUL. ASK that's 619 Paul ask coming up after a quick break. Jason will chat with Ted Danson and I will announce our next movie stick around. All right, everybody. Welcome back. I know that matinee episodes have been a highlight in many people's feeds. We replay old episodes last week. We featured, uh, the movie ultraviolet with Nick Weigar and Mike Mitchell. And next week's matinee will be grease two with Anna Ferris because you asked for it. That's right. Uh, we can maybe even start another part of the discord for that. Ask for what you want back in the, uh, the matinee folder there. I like that we got grease two back out there because a fan wanted it. And, uh, now without any further ado, instead of just chat this week, we're going to play you a little tease from Jason's recent guest appearance on Ted Danson's podcast where everybody knows your name. If you haven't listened to it before, where everybody knows your name is the podcast where Ted and his sometimes co-host Woody Harrelson go deep with the people who inspire them like John Mulaney, Carol Burnett, Quinta Brunson, Dick Van Dyke, and so many more. And today they're inspired by Jason Manzook. That's right. In the clip you're about to hear, you'll hear Ted and Jason talk all about working together on season two of Netflix's, A Man on the Inside and also on the good place, Ted, take it away. Working with you. And the last thing we just did together was just came out by the way. A Man on the Inside season two. Season two. And you are, um, very funny and a little wacky and all of that. But I remember, um, trying to start to leave because we had a little side scene and then the, the, the other scene was going on in the other room. And you needed to go join that I need, my character needed to go join. And so I was trying to get away, but you kept adding a little very funny things. And then I started to walk away. Oh, you're leaving. You know, yeah. Oh, are you, you know, you would call out what you're doing. You know, oh, you know, that's like a classic for me. That's a classic move to just say out loud what's currently happening in the scene to me, the actor, like, oh, are we done? Oh, okay. Okay. Oh, talk to you later. Like, yeah, just like, yeah, all that kind of stuff. Just again, seating, it's what you were talking about earlier of like, oh, some people are chasing a big button. They think like, oh, I'm, and then at the end, I'm going to clobber it with this big line or this big joke or something or other. And I'd much rather sprinkle a bit of weirdness at the end. Like, like something that's just like, wait, what was that? What was that weird little, little aside? But your weird thing didn't come out of nowhere, which is I would argue what Sandy Meiser would hate. And it didn't come for me before it came off of me. It came off of exactly what you were doing, which was you were trying to extricate yourself from talking to me. You, your character doesn't want to talk to me anymore. And so for me to just call that out was very funny. I have my version or actors who aren't good at improvisation have their version, which is I really came up with something, a way to do this last night that I want to show you now while the cameras are rolling. Oh, no. And I think that's, that's, I mean, 99% of people on sets are prepared, you know, or have made choices already. Or have worked on this, you know, I'm only now in life getting better at working on things like really script analysis and really digging in on stuff. That's, that's, I did it in reverse. You know what I mean? Like I am so, I'm so much more comfortable on a set that I can improvise on than a set that is, requires me to be kind of word perfect. You know, that's a much harder endeavor for me and much more daunting. Yeah. For me too. My brain. Yeah. Well, it's, it's, but I will say like watching you, it seems effortless. You know, it is, I have a crap load of psoriasis under my wardrobe as a result of looking effortless. Yeah. But it really is like it's, it is, you know, I've been watching you since I was a kid, you know, whether on TV or on sets as an adult. And it is, it's a cool process. It's cool to watch you slip into these guys, you know, and, and that, like especially the good place, that mischievous evil, that like twinkle, that's, I mean, that's, I had no idea how to play the first season because I didn't know. You didn't want to tip it. No, you couldn't tip it. Yeah. You had to, if people were to look back, which they do because they watch it over and over again, that show, I'd love that. But you have to go, this is real in the moment for the audience watching because they don't know the twist. Yeah. And if you look back, knowing the twist, it has to be real as well. And to the point where I couldn't go because not everyone knew this on the set. You couldn't ask questions because nobody. Yeah. And also you needed to play a character who in success, you could continue to play in season two without having to make it a new guy who now is evil. Yeah. You know, it's no. It's got to be. I heard so many directors who, who didn't know this. They only told the directors didn't know. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. Oh, that's cool. I mean, one or two who were in the beginning of the process. Whoever else got it. Yes. So I would go, I go, Hey, I have a talking to the wrong person. So where's Morgan? Oh, yeah. That what a singular challenge though. Like I feel like actors talk about having the secret all the time. It like, I don't know if that's still a relevant thing, but, you know, like that idea of that, that cliche of an actor has a secret, but like you really did have a secret. Your character had a secret and that is, that is a, I, that the, I didn't see, I think of myself as a very savvy TV watcher, movie watcher. That twist shocked me. Like I was, it got me. I was so, because I was so in on the show. And then that, I didn't, that I didn't see it coming was so incredibly delightful. I'm so rarely surprised that it really, it really got me. I can thank my friend, John Krasinski for not being a blabbermouth, because even before we started shooting, he was going off. I had just gotten a good place and we're about to shoot and he just got in some big movie and was going to go do this huge, probably the quiet place. So you guys were both in the place. You guys were both in places. No, but it's kind of that story because I was slightly, you guys mostly work in place-based things. Yeah. So only. And this is why he said what he said to me when I described, said, Hey, I want him to know that I was going to do something cool too, cause he was going to go, a big fucking movie star. So I went, Hey, I'm going to be working with your friend, Mike, sure. You, you work together in the office. Oh yeah. And yeah, it's, it's, um, I played this architect. It takes place in the afterlife. And I'm an architect who designs this whole, you know, village community for the afterlife. And I could see his eyes go, Oh, okay. Yeah. It's the office, but, but in heaven. And I saw that and I went, no, no, you don't understand because at the end of the first season, I become the, you discovered that I'm actually the devil. And he went, Oh, that's good. Yeah. It's good. And I walked up feeling like, Oh, fuck. Oh no, no, no. Why did I have to, why did I have to be time? But wait, moving back. Yeah. Please. Another thing, another thing that makes you such a good film actor, you, UCB folks is because it's the camera. I love this camera. I think I always want to act for many reasons, but one is to get it right. So it's 50, 50 at best. And I'm giving myself credit to say 50, 50, that I will truly be in the moment. Right. You can get close to the moment, but then you, then you, a part of your brain goes, wow, look at me. I'm in the moment. And then you're out. Right. And the camera sees that. Yes. The camera knows whether you are truly in a position to surprise yourself because you don't know what's coming. Yeah. You know, because you're so lost in the moment. Or no, you're just now giving me a facsimile, something. Yes. Of being in the moment. Yes. And a lot of times I feel like that can look like what you prepared. But if you know, Mr. UCB are part of a group trying to find out where this group is going next. You can't be phoning it in. Everything's going to be discovered. Yeah. It's all discovery. It's all curiosity. Yes. Which is my new favorite. I love that. Word in life right now. At my age, maybe when I approached seventies, gratitude became a very valuable word and real. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, be grateful. Yes. Ted, you know, how'd you get everything you got? I don't know. Yes. Just say thank you. You know, how much more? I don't know. Thank you. You know, just stay there. My new word though is curiosity. Big time. Stay fucking curious. And that is, and I will say one of the things that all my. Like all my characters have, it is deep curiosity. Like a lot of times, like they all want to know everybody else in the show more. Yes. But they're almost always people that everybody else in the show is like, can this guy get out of here? Can we get rid of this guy? Yes. But like, like Apollo on A Man on the Inside, like that Thanksgiving episode, all Apollo wanted to do as far as I was concerned was make friends. It's just there to make friends, you know, Calbert make. I'm making friends with Calbert. There's every, you know, everybody that that my guy meets curious. I want to know more. Your curiosity isn't to then have a one up or have anything that's on a negative or or sad or anything. Your curiosity, the payoff is, well, I'll be damned. Yes. Oh my God. More specificity. More like, yes. And you know what? And this thing we just figured out, I'm into it too. Yeah. You know, and then you're just finding weird little pockets of stuff that a lot of times can just be ephemera that they're never going to use. But then every once in a while, it makes it into the cut and I'm like, oh, well, they use that. Yeah. Cool. I feel like I've graciously gone along with that. I'm 77. You know, like, wow, you're 77. Look at, yeah, you know, I just and then I watch myself on TV and it's like, fuck. Yeah. I'm 77. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's so disturbing. I felt when I turned on the this season of the show, I was like, oh, whoa, I'm so much grayer than I was the last time I think I appeared on television. Yeah. You know, even though I see myself in the mirror every day, my mind is lying to me. Yeah. But when it's right there on TV, I'm like, oh, that guy's older. Yeah. That guy's older than I thought he was. Yeah. You know, my process is that I watch it again. Yeah. And I wipe my tears away going, well, I guess it's not that bad. And then I watch it a third time. I go, oh, fuck, there are other actors in the scene. Oh, you know, oh, yeah. Good. Oh, this is like that thing. You do you because do you do this like, let's say you're watching a scene from a man on the inside and but one of these big group scenes. Do you watch yourself when someone else is talking? I'm trying to figure out what you mean by someone else is talking. To someone else. You mean the other actor? Yeah. The other. But you know what I mean? Like sometimes I'm like, why am I even looking at me right now? I'm not the one talking like nobody's looking at me right now because sometimes I'll be like, in that way that I'm so oftentimes chasing a moment or something to improvise. Yeah. I can sometimes see Jason the improviser there instead of Apollo or Derek or, you know, Adrian Pimento or whatever. I instead see me who just had a clever idea and is now and is now just waiting to unload it. You know, and I'm like, oh, this fucking idiot. Why can't I even cover with a bit of a performance so that I can strike with a with a with a great line? But no, I can see all the mechanics in my mind, but it's almost always happening while someone else is talking. So hopefully nobody's looking at me because that's that's what it is for me. It's that same thing of like, oh, man, I wish I'd done that better. I wish I just wish I wasn't chasing that that bit or that joke or whatever. I can quibble with all of it, you know, I'm confidently there. But when I watch it back, I'm full of self-recrimination. I'm whoever my favorite actor is when I'm working. Yes. But when I watch, I'm just this judgemental dick. Totally, really. Oh, absolutely. I get that. I think we all are. Yeah. And and that's why I think a lot of people don't watch their stuff. Yeah, I do. I don't because I also think of it as kind of a learning experience. I get better because I watch it and it's humbling. Humbling is good. Oh, yeah. And I and God forbid if I was out here not watching it back and just walking off sets being like, yo. Oh, just like Rocky. Look at me. I fucking did it. And then I watch it back and I'm like, oh, God, that's trash. What am I doing? Somewhere in between is probably true. So better to be there. Some and that is how I always feel somewhere in between is the actual performance. Well, welcome back. I hope you enjoyed that snippet of Jason's chat with Ted Danson. If you want to hear the entire conversation, look for the full episode on the where everybody knows your name. Podcast feed. OK, now it is almost the end of the show, which means it is time to announce our next movie. Next week, we'll be doing some reverse evolution as we go from human to monkey. That's right. We're watching the 2001 comic fantasy monkey bone starring Brendan Frazier, Bridget Fonda and Chris Katan. Now, monkey bone has a pretty amazing supporting cast with actors like Jean-Carlo Esposito, Bob Odinkirk, Rose McGowan, John Turturro, Megan Mullally, Dave Foley and Whoopi Goldberg. Now, IMDb describes the plot as this. In a coma, a cartoonist finds himself trapped within his own underground creation and must find a way to get back to reality while racing against his popular but treacherous character, monkey bone, which this is Paul speaking now is a boner. Yep, this movie is about a man's boner keeping him down. You heard me right. Rotten Tomatoes gives this family 21 percent score on the tomato meter and Rick Grown from the globe in the mail wrote, Why do I still have a soft spot for this flick? Because there are glimmers of intelligence in this mess, because it must have driven the marketing department crazy and because it fails so differently than all those run of the mill failures. You know what? Honestly, Rick, I'm with you. I am with you. Next week, we're going to have some very special guests that will fall on both sides of the love it hated spectrum. But before we do any of that, listen to the trailer. From the director of the nightmare before Christmas, Stu Miley was dropped into a whole new world. Hello? Am I dead? Now he has 24 hours to find a way out or he'll lose everything. The woman I love is living with a little monkey that looks like me. Ow! What a lucky girl. Brendan Fraser, Bridget Bonda, Chris Catan, Monkeybone. Be right back. That's right. Shulk my monkey. Bridget BG13. You can stream Monkeybone for free on the Hoopla app through many local public libraries or you can rent it on Apple TV, Amazon Prime or Fandango at home. All right, people, you got your work cut out for you. You're going to listen to Ted Danson's podcast. You're going to watch my documentary about Swiftie dads. You can check out Jason on Broadway. And honestly, if you haven't watched Weapons, I'm shocked that that movie didn't get nominated for more stuff. Like at least a screenplay award, right? I shouldn't have gotten that. Haven't seen it get nominated for too much stuff. But June's in that and that's why I bring it up. Anyway, that's it for last looks. If you listen to us on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, please rate and review us. Also, make sure you're following us and have automatic downloads turned on. It helps to show when we appreciate it. And you can visit us on social media at HDTGM and a big thank you to our producer, Scott Sonny Molley Reynolds and our engineer, Casey Hulford, as well as our social media manager, Zoe Applebaum. We will forever be thankful to the one and only Aval Halley who got us here. And we'll see you next week for Monkey Bone.