No gloss, no filter, just stories, spoken without fear. Varsan, who is not generous, cannot be an artist. The world will be at peace only when it is ruled by poets and philosophers. Listen to my weekly podcast, the Pooja Bhachu on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Come for the honesty, stay for the fire. Yesterday, that I had no idea existed. At first I didn't get it, but I think I do get it now. I don't think I could watch it. I don't think I'd want it. When I say want to watch it, not like it would be boring. I'm afraid of what I would see. Okay. So there's a whole part of the world that watches people. So you go to the doctor for whatever reason, and they run tests. And those tests could be anything from blood work to biopsies. And when people get their results back, they videotape themselves, opening up their portal, and reading the results. So it's like unboxing for their medical records and unboxing video. Yes, exactly. You know what is in the box sometimes. They compared it to people who were doing college admission videos. Where it was like, oh, let's see if I got in or not. I applied to Clemson. Or I applied to Clemson. Yeah, either way. I didn't know that was a thing. Yeah, college admission. I don't know if it's as big as it was, but that was a pretty big thing for a while. So now it's people who will go outside and, well, they'll go anywhere. They'll sit at a table. They'll go outside and sit in a backyard. Like whatever background they want. And the videos generally pick up with them saying, I just I just got the results for my fill in the blank in my portal. I'm going to click on it and I'm just going to read the results. And they do. And these are live streams. A lot of them are recorded and they just posted. Some of them are live streams. Some of them they'll record themselves and post them. Is the aim? Obviously, the aim is to be healthy and have the result you want. But if it is not the result you're hoping to see, do you then have this built in community that in the comment section can build you up and support you? That's exactly it. Like that's where I was like at first I didn't get it. I was like, why would you want to do that? Not for like medical privacy reasons. Like who cares? I mean, it's your stuff. You want to say what it is. That's your own HIPAA. The, um, but I was like, why would you want to do that? But they go back and they talk about, hey, Kristen, will you see if anybody's watched these? Will you find me somebody who's watched these or done one? What's the hashtag? Um, you know what? I don't know the answer to that. I don't. The hashtag benign. I have no idea. But I'm just like, if we're trying to search this review medical reveal medical revealed. Just write that. Yeah. Okay. This video picked up. Oh, Kristen, will you see if you can find me somebody that's watched a video? If you can find me somebody that's made the video, that'd be amazing. 866 to Elliot 866 235 5468. And these things are running up views like crazy. But you see what I mean? Like there's a whole part of like the internet world that is obsessed with these. I see here in an article about some embedded examples. There's one where the person's very excited. Great. There's another where it looks like the video cuts off before you even see the result. But the person is so nervous. It makes me uncomfortable to see that. Okay. But you don't know what it's what it was for. It could be for something. I think it's for medical results. The no, no, I know that. And you don't know what she's getting ready to learn. This video starts. I just need to click view results, but I'm starting to feel a little sick to my stomach. No evidence of localized disease recurrence or mystastic disease in my abdomen or pelvis. Yeah, it is serious stuff. Yes. Well, it's just I'm trying to some of them are just blood tests. Some of them like there was one that was like, girl, I wish I had that a one. See. I could have done my test to see if I had white coat syndrome. But I didn't even want to bring it up after you read that last one. Yes, Sarah. I have white coat syndrome. I don't even know what that is. Oh, he's afraid of doctors. No, no, no. Yes. You get scared when you go to the doctors. I don't. But it's not an outward emotion. I don't know. They tested your heart. That's that your heart rate spikes. I had to know my blood pressure. It's the same thing. I had to buy a monitor. Yeah. I did to check for about four, three, four weeks after my physical. So I could bring in my log and then also bring in my machine and check it and see if in the presence of a doctor. It's spiked. My body unbeknownst to me just is anxious. And it is around doctors. It is. So now every time I go in for a physical the month before I have to start logging my blood pressure again. Gotcha. But do you see this woman? This is what I'm talking about. I don't want to watch this. I told you, I don't know if I should mess. You know, I don't know what result she's waiting on. But you see clearly is stressed. No, no, I'm saying. I don't know if she is waiting to find out. I mean, this is going to sound bad. I don't know if she's waiting to find out if she has cancer or if I'm waiting to find out if she has high A1C's. She's way too upset for this to be something minor. She's freaking out, wringing her hands. Look at her. Her brow is all frowed, frowned, whatever. Furrowed. These videos are the unintended result of a law passed in 2016, which mandated that providers give participants or patients rather full access to the entirety of their medical records as quickly as possible. The law went into effect in 2021. And ever since, raw test results have arrived on screens, the instant they're processed by the labs gone are the days of having a live conversation to get the results. So people are getting the results and then that community of people. And I'm telling you, it's everything from, oh, I mean, it's horrible. I had that type of cancer. I had this type of cancer to, I wasn't kidding. There was somebody who was like, girl, love your A1C's or like, oh, good blood pressure. Like, I mean, it's all kinds of stuff. But that's their only community of either support or celebration. You know what? When I think back to that November, December blood pressure issue, put that aside, you have to at my doctor, you have to get the blood test ahead of time. And it was because historically you discussed the results with the doctor. When I went in this past November, and I understand you mentioned a few years ago, this law passed, they asked me, so did you already look on the portal for your blood panel results? And I said, no. And they were surprised. They had them yet. Yeah. Yeah. Why wouldn't you? Because I don't know how to interpret all of it. That's what the internet's for. You don't have to. Oh my God, you don't want me typing in symptoms and all this stuff. You don't have to. It'll tell you on there, like it'll give you your number. Yes. And then it'll say, this is a no, well, it may say- So you literally do this. I've done it. You don't wait to interact and hear the interpretation of the doctor? Remember, I don't get it done ahead of time. So I'll do it afterwards and I'll read through it. And if there's anything, I text them. But it'll say like, this is low or this is high. And then there's usually a descriptor underneath it that says normal range is between 67 and 70. And then you're like, well, I'm 69. I guess I'm good. So is the doctor, in my case, my internet audience? Yes. I'm finding out in front of her. Yes. It's almost like I don't want to learn by myself. No, because nobody's there with you. Truth be told, I didn't even know that they posted them. And I told you that it was shocking that my doctor's office even was allowed to put medical records online because they told me when I first joined the practice that they would never pass any sort of clearance because it's a little bit backwards. No. I mean, every, I mean, it's in your portal. I check. Well, now it is. I have to go to a doctor today. I'll find out what the portal is. If I have stitches in here tomorrow, just pretend you don't see them. The stitches or a big bandage over stitches? It could be either one. Oh, yes. Yes. Just pretend you don't see it. I'll have Casey take a picture. Make sure that sunlight. The sun will blind you. No, no, I want it spotlighting it. Where am I going? 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I was just calling in because when you were talking about this, it honestly reminded me of everybody doing their pregnancy test reveals. That's another good one. That's another good one. Yes. Yeah, I know because I will see them all the time and I'm like, oh my God, they're pregnant or you know. But yeah, that's all. I got you. I appreciate it. Thank you. This seems to me like half the time these tests are probably bad news. Yeah, I mean, if you go on odds, probably. But as a viewer, you're willing to say, let's be 50-50, but I want to tune in. Yes. Because you're hoping for it to be good or you also find some pleasure in their pain. I couldn't. I could not watch these. I think it's people that are either a. Going to be a very comforting person. Like, I don't think somebody's going to post on there. Oh, I got my six month scan. Guess what's back? I don't think there's somebody waiting to go serves you right, a whole. Like, I don't think there's that. I think it's people who are being very like it does say a potentially quite lonely experience is transformed into a communal one. The individual is no longer alone with the screen and the data. They're in a community with people all over the world who chime in with comments celebrating good news or lamenting the bad or worrying ambiguous, worryingly ambiguous. Your blood work is amazing. That was a comment. Yeah, that's the one I was like, girl, you're a one C. But then it could also be like, hey, you know, it could be it could be a it could just be an internet hug. But remember, like this woman who we have no idea what she's wringing her hands about in in the whole thing. But she she she's checking the the answers in the backyard while you see her dog running around by the fence. Well, she's at home. That's my point. There's nobody if she if she's getting if she's getting bad news, she's not sitting with her doctor who can wrap his arms around her and give her a hug. So is this with a doctor or is this somebody looking at their results in the portal? What do you mean? So no, no, like that that woman's at home just looking at the portal. Right. So my doctor isn't going to let me videotape me watching him. Well, you can just videotape yourself as the doctors. Hey, hey, Elliot, you need to have surgery. If I were a doctor, I would never allow for that to party state. I would never. Well, no. No, I would if I were a doctor, I would never allow for that. I would never allow for that. Is there a face to this trend? Is there someone who's been going through a lot of treatment of an illness that has a lot of updating? So this person has, I don't know, kind of become the most famous to be doing like the Kim Kardashian of medical reveals. Well, like Olivia, as Olivia Munn came out with saying she had breast cancer and was very vocal and like shared the journey, that kind of thing. Yes, on Good Morning America, not in her backyard with let's click the portal. But I bet a lot of these stories do start with just you being intimate on Instagram or TikTok and saying, OK, well, I just wanted to update you. I got the news today. My test results were positive and I had breast cancer. That it didn't start with her going on. Like your blood works, good girl. I don't know. I don't know. I couldn't watch him. I couldn't see somebody get bad news. I only like good news. Yeah, this isn't for me either. Definitely not. I just also then. But people are getting millions of views, millions of it. So are they like monetized? No, no, no. It's not the Paul brothers who are out there doing it. What are they making money to help with their medical bills? Oh, so I got my results. RIN Voke and then it goes back. I'm not putting ads in there because then I'd be concerned that as for Big Lu, he's got he's got cancer to people lying. Absolutely. And saying I have to pay for this surgery. I can't believe my results are positive. I go fund me. Yeah. I just did it with some cats. And then my dad got in trouble. We're going Chris in line four. Hi, Elliott, the morning. Hey, is this me? Yeah. Hi. Who's this? This is Janet from Charlottesville. How are you doing? Great, Janet. What can I do for you? Well, I was just going to share. So I'm a cancer survivor and I have to go get regular tests. Right. And to what you were saying, like about the immediate results, they actually have a choice. The organ is the hospital or the testing center can allow you to have your results instantly, or they can say you have to wait to see the doctor. And so like I go to UVA and I go to Martha Jefferson in Charlottesville. Right. Cancer treatments. Sure. And UVA has theirs turned off. So I don't get mine instantly, which I don't know how I feel about it. Because I go get a CT scan like every three months. Right. And there's a lot of anxiety that goes with that. Of course. You want to know the results, but at the same time, I'm not really educated enough to read that report and I could misread it. So sometimes I really do like the fact that UVA says you can't see it immediately. But Martha Jefferson, I see it immediately and it can be really anxiety producing because you just don't know what this means. If I in in in in if given an option, if I don't mean like the option that you have, but if I had to vote, on on whether to have it go immediately to your portal or it comes from your doctor, I would vote all day. I'd rather good news, bad news. I don't understand it. News go tell me my blood work is fantastic. Tell me I'm getting stitches. I'd much rather do it talking to my doctor. So if I had to vote, I would have voted the law that way. But because I know it's in the portal, I'm just going to go look. So you can't help yourself. The. Yeah. What is that? What are they called? The forbidden fruit? No. I don't know. Well, you know what I mean. But yeah, no, that's like notifies you on the app. Like immediately when the result comes in, you get a notification and all of a sudden it's like you got results. I'm like, hot damn, let me set up a computer. Right. Right. Yeah. It's really compelling because you want to know, you know, but at the same time, you're going to be reading that result and not have the context. No, round the result. Well, not having Diana Rossini, the not have the context, but and also not have any contact. Like if it is, you know, by, and by the way, it could be great news. It could be, listen, I'm nothing makes me happier than to hear that, that, that your, your scans come out great and your survivor and you're doing well. But I would imagine if it's what you say, it's every three months, that first time that, you know, after you went through and you rang the bell and you did all of that, the first time you had to go in for three months and you took that scan and your notification popped up and it came back that you're clear. I bet the first thing you wanted was to just hug somebody because you were happy, not because you were sad or scared, but just because you were happy. And what are you going to do? Hug the kitchen table? Well, my story doesn't work out that way. I actually, my first scan after my surgeries and my chemo came back to the cancer had come back and spread. Can't you just play along? I was just done. I just made a smile on the face with open hands emoji. David Elliott. No, but I was trying to make a point and not like, oh, I got, you got cancer. I got that. That's the situation, you know, like, you know, in my case, I was like, I was going and expecting I'm done. I'm free. You know, I'm going to be in a good spot. And I go in and I say, no, it's spread to my liver. And that was, oh my God. She didn't film this. But it all turned out fine and I was good. But like when I read that, like immediately, you know, it was a real, real bummer. It was obviously a really depressing moment. Probably still wanted to hug probably more than ever. I have to be honest. Right. Right. Right. All right. Hold on for a sweatshirt. Let me get you a hoodie. Let me get you. No, I'm just uncomfortable. All right. Hold on one second. Hold on one second. All right. Was she helping or hurting? Just play along. Like, please. You're telling of the story. Well, I think I did a really nice job telling the story, but then she kind of came in and like messed up the end. It was a plot twist. But they should also make it like if you're going to do it, like let's make it fun. Like good news, I get like the balloons and everything. Bad news. I get the sound effect of John Wayne. So and I know you are a huge fan of gender reveals. I hate gender reveals. Is this one day going to be that? Yes. Like where people have. Yes. I mean, it's going to grow into that. Have the the moment learned when they cut into a cake? Probably instead of just a flipped up laptop screen. Hey, you have cancer. No, no, we don't. You don't have to say it. You don't have to say it. I've got a cancer. I have it built right into the app. That's one of those cards. No, I'm why wouldn't it? Why wouldn't it? You're right. You're right. Everyone's got to take it to that next level. Well, but the gender reveal, it's only good news. Not if you want a boy or girl and don't find out. We've seen those clips where like one of the parents gets pissed. Yeah, that's normally like when they kick the thing over and it starts a brush fire. Like you cut open the cake and they're like, oh, never mind. It was a false positive. You're not pregnant. Or how about when like the grandmother makes it all about herself? Where am I going? Oh, were we supposed to wait to pull the little string on the confetti? I'm so sorry. Hi, Elliott. The morning. Hello. Yeah. Hi. Who's this? John. Yes, John. What can I do for you? I've had kidney cancer and or bladder cancer, other lung cancer. I get news on my portal. I have to go in for CT scans like every three months. And do you get the results from your doctor or do you get them on the portal? I get them on the portal. Do you like that or would you rather it be delivered by your doctor? It's fine getting them on the portal. I know quicker. If there's something that needs to be addressed, based on what you told me, there's a lot. Hey, what is the but can I can I ask you this? Honestly, like I understand that you get them. You get the results quicker, right? I do understand that and it's immediate. Listen, I would vote to not make it an option, but I still do it. I look at it. But even if you get if you get bad news, let's say you get it, you know, 10 days earlier, that's a long time, a week earlier. And you find out that something is bad. If it's bad, you know, the doctors calling you soon anyway. It's not like you've got to get the results and then call and schedule an appointment if you've got some really bad news in there. So does getting it that much faster? I mean, honestly, does it make that much of a difference? The answer is no. Well, you do get by getting your results quicker. You can go ahead, send a message to your doctor and go ahead and say, yeah, I can come in any time here. Because when I found my lung, it was like a small legion and all of a sudden it increased in its size. So I said, all right, I guess I need to get an appointment scheduled and got one within like two or three days. No, that's great. That's great. Right. Like I am happy to hear that. So I guess there is in your case, there was a was a benefit. You sound like you're doing pretty good now. Oh, yeah, I'm doing great, except why I have to go in for another Cistos could be here in a month. Well, what's a fist? I know, Cistos could be. You know what that is. Wait, what is that? What is that? Do you want to tell him or do you want me to tell him? I'll tell him. Go ahead. Well, you know what a colonoscopy is. Yeah. Oh, they ain't going in through your wing. Yes, they are. Ding. It's like jeopardy. Hey, did they numb that thing? Did they numb it? Well, a lot of times they'll do it as an office visit and they just take a Q tip with lidocaine and try to numb you out. It don't work. I'm sorry, but I am a real pee when it comes to that. I get them to knock me out. If they're going to knock me out for a colonoscopy, they're going to knock me out going up my wagon. Amen. No, I'm with you. I'm a big pussy. I'd be a big pussy about it, too, dude. I am right there with you, right there with you. Hey, Black or Camo, what kind of hoodie do you want? I'll do a Camo. Good idea. Good idea. All right. Hold on one second. Oh, my God. You've definitely had I blocked that out. I blocked that out. I'm not surprised. One day you'll probably need one. I doubt it. Why would you? Why would he need one? I don't know. What do you get them for? You get old. Any sort of cancer, bladder cancer? Maybe he's never going to get it. He's going to get cancer. Why? I don't know. Plenty of smokers don't get cancer. I don't know. Maybe the weighing is not necessary. Your words, not mine for the lungs. The no, but you'd be fine. You don't necessarily have to get that. I am not getting that. Hi, Elliott. The morning. Hi, good morning. This is me. Yeah, hi. Real quickly. What can I do for you? Yeah, I'm thinking that the reason why people go to the portal and announce their result is because they are missing that human touch that doctor is telling them. Absolutely right. And that's what they believe. Started this is that when when people are getting those results, being good, bad and different, it is all stemming from it's on your portal and you're opening them literally sitting at your kitchen table by yourself or on the couch by yourself or you're not you're not surrounded by, you know, a doctor or some nurses or anybody in the office sitting there by yourself. And so at least that way, there is an online community who can either, you know, give you praise hands or or, you know, 100, you know, whatever it is, but you're exactly right. You're exactly right. Thank you. Yes, Tyler, two things. Yes. There's a DM saying you're going to need one of those for your stone. No, for a kidney stone. Don't you have one they detected? Well, yes, but it hasn't moved. But they can tell that it's called. They get to dump that. What's the scope of this? Stoscopy, scoscopy. I'll tell you what, if I have to get it, you know, how did they find my how did they find my kidney stone? I got the locker exam. So who do you want? Locker, minister. Locker. And then from Bruce. I put the biscuit in the basket. Go ahead. Oh, you know what? And then I'll just be there with Joe B. Sound effects. Oh, it's intended. And then Bruce writes on X. A lot of states delayed patient access to results to avoid risk of patient self harm. Yeah, I can see that. Wait, say that again. Say that again. A lot of states delayed patient access to results to avoid risk of patient self harm. If you get very, very bad news, you freak out. And so they do something. But if they're delaying that, OK, but what does delaying access have to do? Like until after you talk to your doctor? This was an argument for not posting things online. So come and sit down so I can tell you you got the results and they're really bad. So they delayed it until after you talk to the doctor. Yeah, no, I listen, I'm all for it. I'm all for you not being able to find out from anybody but your doctor or a nurse in the office. Some some medical person should be the one who tells you good news or bad news. And as Bruce writes, what if it was a misunderstanding of the information? Oh, like I read it wrong or I just don't understand it. Mm hmm. Yeah, that's a problem. But I think they had to start doing this because doctors time of telling you, hey, by the way, your results are negative. You had to have an appointment to do that. Doctors time could probably be used elsewhere for something that's just like, hey, you're all good. Correct me if I'm wrong. Preport like pre as much access to portals as there is now. So maybe it was during an overlap where it was some that had it or not. Yeah. Wouldn't wouldn't the office say we'll call you with the results and that you would either get the. Hey, it's Elliott. I'm in Dr. Goop. His office just want to let you know all the results are good. Thank you. You know, have a good day. Or you would get, hey, it's Elliott and Dr. Goop. His office. Why don't you give us a call back? Just we just got your results. Why don't you give us a call back? Talk to you soon. Hurry. And then. That's why I always say no to voicemails and certainly don't call Lindsay. No, no. But you know what I mean? Like, yes, I do understand that takes time. But if you're concerned is that there's going to be a patient that's going to harm themselves, misunderstand it. Like a lot of that, a lot of the medical mumbo jumbo I don't get. No, I think Bruce brought up a great point. And I don't even think it was for a sweatshirt. The no, but I'd give him one. I'd give him one. I'm comfortable. That was Summer's favorite exchange of the show today. Caller, you're so sweet. Elliott, no, I'm just uncomfortable. No gloss, no filter, just stories, spoken without fear. A person who is not generous cannot be an artist. 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