Hour 1 – Super Bowl Champion Seahawks, Bill Cowher

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Play of the day, poll questions, stat of the day, all of that forthcoming. Congratulations to the Seahawks who dominated the Patriots 29-13. Although it's an interesting way to say dominating the Patriots, because it certainly felt that way. But it was only 9-0 and you kept thinking, golly, if they get a pick 6, they get a fumble, they get maybe a long run, something here. And we kept waiting for something here and then we had an exciting fourth quarter. But it was one of those games where I kept thinking, is New England going to steal this? This great defensive performance by Seattle will be wasted by a couple of plays. But give credit to Seattle, they came up with big plays when they needed to. Drake May was sacked six times. Sam Darnold played OK. Drake May played OK in the fourth quarter. Kenneth Walker Jr., the third-named most valuable player. After the game, Sam Darnold talked about what this moment meant. Sam, what does this moment mean? It's unbelievable. You know, just everything that's happened in my career, but to do it with this team, I wouldn't want it any other way. So proud of our guys, our defense. I mean, I can't say enough great things about our defense, our special teams. I know we won the Super Bowl, but we could have been a little bit better on offense, but I don't care about that right now. It's an unbelievable feeling, man. I'm just so happy for the guys in the locker room and the coaches. That put in so much effort throughout the whole season. That defense was spectacular. They were wonderful. And, you know, I think we all thought during the year that New England was going to be there a year earlier because it's a very young team. They got cap space. They got draft picks. I mean, they are set up for the future and they did look like they were a year too early there. Seattle? Wow. That was impressive. Really from start to finish. And I thought Chris Collinsworth brought up a great point. New England's defense in the first half was so aggressive, overly aggressive. As if to say, we have to win it with defense. We don't have enough offense. And that's why I picked Seattle to win 24-13. I didn't think New England could score 20 points. Therefore, it came down to could Seattle score 20 points? They ended up with 29. But Mike McDonald, a lot of praise. He was calling the defensive plays while being the head coach. And that defense was everywhere. Swarming. And even New England's Christian Gonzalez, he made some big plays. But you had too many players on Seattle making too many plays. And Kenneth Walker, when you're around running backs like that, because he's not tall, and you go, how is he so fast? But he's so good. And there's one play in particular. And Collinsworth even pointed this out. He was kind of walking up to the line of scrimmage. I mean, Levy on Bell created a whole new running style. And here was Kenneth Walker just kind of walking up and then boom. He sees his moment and takes advantage of it. They had enough plays to be able to keep New England's defense on us. But it doesn't matter the stats for Sam Darnall. And I know you can be really picky. Well, go back and look at Tom Brady's first couple of Super Bulls. Okay? They won with defense. They didn't ask much. Kate managed last Super Bowl. He didn't do anything. Sometimes you're along for the ride. But what you did to get your team to that point where you can be along for the ride, gives Sam Darnall a lot of credit because you get kicked to the curb, you've played for five teams, and now you're a Super Bowl champ. The Seahawks head coach, Mike McDonald, on the decision to bring Sam Darnall to Seattle. John deserves a lot of credit for that process. It's kind of uncharted waters that you have to navigate. And to the outside eye, it probably seemed like it happened fast, but he did a great job of guiding us through all those decisions. We're on record with it. Clint had a relationship with him. There's a lot of people in our building that knew Sam that could vouch for who he was as a person. The tape backed it up. I think people made too big of a deal with him of the last two games in the season, which I thought was his dumb. Watch the whole season. The guy played great all year. He came into Lumen and beat us. They won 14 games. So Clint knew he could do the stuff that we wanted to do in our offense, and then it was rock and roll. I think it's kind of sloppy take if you say it was not a good football game, because then you're missing out on the dominance of that Seattle defense. I mean, you can go back to the 85 Bears against the Patriots. You might say, that wasn't a good game. You're missing the point. You're watching a historical performance by the defense, and that's what you had with Seattle. The fourth Super Bowl team in history to allow fewer than 14 points, get six or more sacks, and score a defensive touchdown. The Broncos did that in Super Bowl 50 when they dominated the Panthers. The Bears did that when they beat the Patriots 46-10. And then the Raiders, going back to the Jack Squyrik, picked six on Joe Thysman. That was 38-9. That's pretty good company there with some great defenses. And I know, and it comes down to, as I tell you every single year at this time, if you can run the football and play defense, you can win the Super Bowl. If you get to this point, this game, and given all the tension, and how Super Bowls get out of hand, one mistake, and then it leads to another, if you can run the football, be as close to turnover free and play great defense, you'll win. And that's what happened again last night. So all the fanfare for throwing the ball, wide open offenses, it came down to Kenneth Walker running the football, and that defense being unbelievable. All right, Seton, poll question for hour one is going to be what? Got a couple options here for you. Sort of off that topic, which unit deserves most credit for Seattle's win? The pass rush, secondary, run game, or special teams? Special teams. Special teams. I mean, everybody was really good that you mentioned, but when you, they play such an emphasis on special teams in Seattle. And when your field goal kicker and your punter are changing the game, they're making their field goals and their punter inside the 10 yard line. Huge, massive. And what that does psychologically, when you had the ball at the 20 or 25, or you have it at the one and you're not moving the ball at all and you have no big play capabilities, I thought that was just devastating for the Patriots. But that, that pass rush, if you don't have to blitz, man, is that an advantage. And Tony Dungey talked about that. We've seen these moments where you go, they don't even have to rush another guy. They just have four. And that allows the secondary. If you got four going, you got a bunch of guys back there and you had nobody who was going to beat you over the top. Seattle never worried about getting beat deep. It was all right in front of them. Yeah, Paul. Michael Dixon, the punter for the Seahawks. Seven punts, 48 yard average. Three of them down inside the six yard line. Two returned for a total of four yards. He also was the holder on all the kicks. And he got a couple of bad snaps. But to be able to pin them back, I don't think he had a touchback in the playoffs. Seattle didn't have a turnover in the playoffs. I mean, those things don't happen. And I think with Sam Darnold, you were probably waiting for now. He didn't play good in the first half. And I thought New England had a couple of chances. Certainly for interceptions, maybe a pick six. But that Seattle defense was fun to watch dominating. And that left side of the Patriots offensive line, two rookies over there. I was fixated on that side of the ball. For the first, I was just, I kept watching. And those guys were drowning. They were drowning there in Seattle green. And you could tell Drake May, I mean, that's where you see ghosts. You, Sam Darnold famously said he saw ghosts. I'm going to guess Drake May saw some ghosts and will continue to see some ghosts. And I know afterwards he talked about his shoulder. There was talk about the shoulder during Super Bowl week. He got it shot up to play. Might be one of those where he gets it cleaned out in the off season. I don't know how much of a factor that had. I don't, I don't know if it would have mattered if he was completely healthy. Just there was no time to think when he went back there. All right. So we got a poll question on the, the part of the Seahawks team that stood out the most. Yeah. And then this is sort of cut from the same cloth though, but what actually decided last night's game? Was it the Seahawks pass rush and the Patriots offensive line, special teams or coaching? And you got, I mean, it's all of the above. Like that was total team, total. And the only dip was really JSN. It wasn't a fact. I mean, imagine that if I said, yeah, they won and JSN wasn't a factor at all. And he wasn't. And Sam played sub par, but they ended up dominating, you know, to win it in double figures. And you kept wondering if, you know, is there something more that New England can do? And here's Josh McDaniels who has more experience than any other offensive coordinator in NFL history in the Super Bowl. And I kept thinking, I want Drake May to get the ball and get it out of his hands like right away. You know, almost a Brady like playbook of just get it out. I don't care where it's going, get it out because if you go back and you're seven steps back and you got that rush coming off the edge, you're going to have a lot of company all night long. This time we're going to stop them. Yeah. Let's just run again. This time we'll stop them. What the hell dude? What are you doing? I think we're tiring them out. Now we can throw that pass. And then you're going, okay, who's their deep receiver and they don't have one. And it goes back to it wasn't a great offense and Drake May, what he did during the regular season, I still would look at him as the MVP because of what he did during the regular season. And that's what the vote is. You know, they tabulate that before the postseason starts. He did not have a good postseason at all. Sacked fumbles did not play well at all. But they somehow got to this point. Give credit to Vrable. He did a wonderful job. He's your coach of the year. But man, oh man, Mike McDonald had a game plan. Yes, Seaton. I do. I love the Sam Darnold redemption story and it's unfortunate that Drake May had a terrible postseason, but really played a terrible game. And I do think it's funny though that Drake May threw for more touchdown passes last night than Sam Darnold. And Sam Darnold resurrected his career off of this run and Drake May has got to go back to the drawing board. Well, it's like things that don't add up when you look at them on paper. Yeah. Got to get some weapons. Yeah. Got to get some weapons. And I thought that they were going to be able to run the football. I really did. And then all of a sudden Drake May sprinkles in some passes and that's all you want. Keep the defense honest and they couldn't do that. That defense basically said, we don't care what you're doing. We're coming after you every single play. Yeah, Paulie. I know the first three quarters were rough, but there was a point in the fourth quarter. They were down the Patriots down 19 to 7. They had the ball with 10 minutes and 40 seconds to go. They go on a seven play 40 yard drive. They're across the 50. It's second and three and they took that shot down field that was intercepted. I mean, there's a lot of time left. I think that interception, there was 849 on the clock. If they somehow get that to 1914, the pressure changes quickly. I was wondering and I kept thinking I'd be passing on first down. I would be passing on the non passing downs because I just have to switch this up. And Josh McDaniels did not have a good night calling plays. It just felt like Seattle kind of figured out there was no rhythm with New England. And you know, Chirico and Collins were at one point thought that the Patriots were going to get some rhythm. Then I think they had a turnover right after that. You were just waiting for something where you go. The drive would be like seven plays 40 yards. That would be a sustained drive for New England. And you know, meanwhile, Kenneth Walker, you know, those chunk plays played great. But it still comes down to no turnovers, playing great defense and making them make mistakes. Yes, Tom. I was wondering at halftime as good as the coaches, Mike Vrable is or appears to be. You know, you do it halftime when a team's got that good of a defense. You know, you always say like you got to make the necessary adjustments. Is there anything he really could have said or done that would have significantly changed what they did in the second half? Well, I would have said we're down 9-0. All we need to do is go out there. We get the ball, start the second half. Let's go down there and score a touchdown. At worst, we get a field goal. Now we're down six. Let's put the pressure on them. They just kept waiting for some kind of rhythm there and it never happened. It just felt like they were like, I don't know, what are we doing? I don't know, what do you think? I don't know. Hey, we better block that side of the line. Yes, Eaton. And that second half opening drive, I think is just another three and out. That was crucially important to at least move the chains. Get a first down. All right. We'll get to phone calls here. Also, Bill Cower will join us. 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Clint Kubiak officially taking the Raiders job. And if you're a Raider fan, you're like, alright, we got the offensive coordinator for the Super Bowl winning Seattle Seahawks and we're going to have the number one pick in the draft. 877-3DP show email address dpatdampatrick.com. Twitter handle at DP show that Devon Weatherspoon, he was everywhere. He could have been in the MVP race as well because man, was he disrupting things. But it came down to run the football, play defense, don't turn the ball over. Pretty good formula. Bill Cowher, Hall of Famer joining us on the program. Coach, your reaction overall to the game last night? Well, Dan, I think it was a game to me that you just stated it was a defensive battle. I thought even the New England Patriots for the first three quarters there really, they kept them in the football game. And it was, it was a series of field positions back and forth, not making mistakes. But I think obviously Kenneth Walker had a couple big runs. I felt like New England maybe got away from the running game a little bit in the third quarter when the game was still there. I think a big play also was the end of the second quarter with Christian Gonzalez, made a great play on Jackson Smith and Ajit Gopal. And just dropped that ball near the goal line, which they could have come away with just being down three nothing as opposed to six nothing at the halftime. So it was a game again that I thought two great defenses, probably not a great game for fans, they would enjoy offense. But it was a game that the defense of Seattle was very, very stout. And I think again, Sam Donald, as he's done in these playoffs, did not turn the football over, made good decisions. He was very elusive in the pocket. I think he negated a lot of sacks that Nuno thought they would have and conversely on the other side, Drake May had a very tough time standing in that pocket. What's it like going into halftime? Now you're down nine nothing and it's a halftime that's three times longer than a normal halftime. So how do you make adjustments, keep your team focused and go back out on the field after a long delay? You know, I think that's funny because I think the first Super Bowl I was in 1995, the 95 season, 96 Super Bowl against the Dallas Cowboys. There was the time frame from there. I did not give much thought of that and didn't reach out to anybody. And the national anthem was much later when he came out of the locker room and then all said, you're in the locker room, you're much longer. The second time having been there 10 years later, I made sure after halftime, number one, we took our pads off. I said, take your pads off. We had some fruits and some oranges, some apples. Take some time, get away, get in your locker. You have to have your own space. And then as come back together as we get back and have some final thoughts is what we want to do in the second half, particularly those first series of the second half. I always thought they're the most vital of any football game is the first series of defense or first series of offense because you either reestablish a momentum or you change momentum and you come out of there with a sense of, okay, we got this thing figured out. So I think that's the biggest thing you did to me was we almost treated like two different games. It's our first half and then there's a second half and that's kind of like what we did. I know I'm going against the Seattle Seahawks back in the 2005 season, the 2006 Super Bowl. I was trying to figure out what they were going to do offensively knowing that it felt like the Patriots left side of the line could not handle Seattle. And Seattle knew that, but I like I just kept thinking they would maybe subscribe to the Tom Brady playbook. Just get the ball out. Make sure it throws. Maybe keep running the football a little bit. It just didn't feel like they were making adjustments in the second half. You know, again, I go back and if you watch the New York Patriots through the course of that playoff run that they've had, number one, they've had trouble with their protection. They had five sacks in the three previous games, six in this game. So I think that somehow they got away from running the football or at least let's throw in quick plays screens of some nature where he didn't have to hold the ball for long periods of time. I even was going to think about to me at some point is go no huddle. Try to slow down that rush. You got to do something to try to change the tempo of the game because you were you never could get into a feel or a flow. And I think as a coach, you want to constantly try to tweak some things along the way. It knows that adjustments that you try to make, whether it be with your play column, whether it be the sense of urgency we have coming out of the huddle. Try to do some things differently, whether it's a reverse or two, some kind of gimmick plays. You know, we saw the fleet flicker be the big play that they had last week against Detroit. We saw a little bit that in the first series. I think Josh did a good job with that. I think they kind of got away from that because they couldn't get a first down. And so you don't get a first down. It's hard to get into flow and off. And I think again, I get a lot of credit to Seattle. I think Mike McDonald called a great game. He got a lot of pressure. Both teams blitz very early in the game for both of these quarterbacks, recognizing that for both these quarterbacks, it was our first Super Bowl experience with minimal. I think they wanted to make sure they were uncomfortable. And I think they both did a great job of that. And then it got to the point where the Seattle didn't even have to rush with a blitz. They were able to get there with their four down linemen and Drake may just never felt comfortable the whole game. Mike McDonald calling the defense. How difficult is that to be the head coach but also calling the defense? Well, I think you have a lot of trust in your offensive coordinator. And I think that's the one thing I think with Mike, if you look at the fact after his first year, he changed offensive coordinators. He goes again, Clint Kubiak. And I think that you have to have a large degree of trust while you're doing that because a lot of times when you're kind of the CEO, and I know as I was for my time at Pittsburgh, I'm talking to what are we doing with the other side when one side is calling the ball, I'm talking to the other side. Let me talk to the coordinator before you start talking to the quarterback. That's what we talked about last night. That's maybe we can do this. Can we help our left tackle? Can we do some things? Whatever we need to do adjustment-wise in the course of the game, you at least have an ability to talk to that coordinator to talk about what our options are at that particular time. But when you're calling the game, as Mike has done it, and he's done it for two years, again, the trust he has to have on the other side of the ball that they're getting things figured out has got to be immense. And I think they obviously with Clint Kubiak, and you just mentioned it going to the Raiders right now, and the first pick in the draft, and we all know who that's going to be in the end of this. And I think that that's a good choice. Again, now for Mike McDonald, it's going to be a third coordinator in three years as he went up to Seattle. Talking to Bill Cower, Hall of Fame coach, the NFL Today analyst for CBS. Did the enormity hit you at any point coaching in the Super Bowl? And if so, when does the enormity of everybody's watching? The enormity hits you in the pregame. I feel like the lead up to it, you try to keep things as normal as possible. It's certainly the night before. The day, obviously, you sit there in your hotel, ready to go to get on a bus. At least when you're on the West Coast, it's not as long of a day, but you're on the East Coast, and you have to sit there until like five o'clock or four o'clock. It's like you're looking for a movie or looking for something. I don't want to watch anything else. And so it does become that. Then when you get to the stadium, you can just feel the buzz. There's more people on the sideline. You know the finality that's going to take place, the opportunity, a close yard to make history. And it's real. And I think again, it's real. Particularly, I know for us, when we went into the dome in Detroit, the dome in itself was just a buzz. And so that took another level of noise that we had to kind of deal with. So I think once the game gets underway, yes, you kind of start to play the game and you fall into whatever the feel of the game is. But the lead up to it is real. It's the biggest game of your career. You never know if you're going to get back there again. You may not think that way, but you know that's been the case. We've all seen the history of all the players who says, well, we'll be back and they never got back. And the people who said, yeah, we're so close to being to the Super Bowl and they never get there. So it's an opportunity of a lifetime, a chance to make history. And you understand that particularly as it leads up to the game and as you get to the stadium. Did you see famous people on the sidelines when you were in the Super Bowl? You know, there were so many people. I stayed on the field. It's like you walk between the lines. I mean, I think, you know, again, it's like you walk between the lines and you sit there and you just kind of stay and try to keep things as normal. Try to keep things as routine as possible. And I think that's the biggest thing. I didn't, I never got caught up with that. I tried to get the game going and make sure I look into the eyes of my players. I didn't worry about the eyes of people who are looking at us. I want to make sure I look in the eyes of the guys that we have ready to play that game and try to just tell them to relax, have some fun. We worked too hard to get here and not to enjoy it. And trust what you see and play fast, play hard and make some mistakes. Let it go and just go on to the next play. It is amazing how many teams, what they do to young quarterbacks. It just feels like more young quarterbacks are ruined than developed. And you know, Sam Darnold was supposed to be the safe pick in that draft by the Jets, but the Jets weren't ready for Sam Darnold. And you know, most teams give up on these quarterbacks after two or three years. Here's Sam eight years in and now he wins the Super Bowl, but can you be cautious at that position? Because it doesn't feel like coach's general managers are. Well, I don't know if cautious is the right word. I always thought this thing. I think when you look at the Seattle Seahawks this year, I think they were the most balanced team in the national football league. You talk about special teams, Jason Myers and they got Dixon, Dickinson who's maybe the best punter in the national football league. We saw take play out yesterday with some of the punts he had down in the ball inside the five yard line. Rashid Shahid, all of a sudden as a punt return, they pick him up at the draft. He saw it, saw the defense as we talked about one of the best in the national football league. And then you look on the offensive side of the ball, Jackson Smith and Jigba. I mean, one of the best receiver, offensive player of the year. And then you have a two headed running back with Kenneth Walker and Zach Charbonnet. Don't forget about him through the course that weekend. That helps it off offensive line. So, Sam Donnell became just a piece of that. And I think to a large degree that's where it was on the other side with Drake May. His legs got them there, but there was a defense, it was a running game. It was special teams. They did all the little things that he took to get there. So I think there was ever a message that said, you know, yeah, we don't have the quarterback. We don't have the quarterback to win the championship. I think yesterday proved that it's more about getting a complete team and building a team. And when that special guy comes along, I go back to the same thing that that's what we try to do in Pittsburgh. And we won some playoff games with different quarterbacks. But when we had a special guy come along like Ben Rothersberger, that's when championships come along. So I think that's the biggest thing is along the way, you build that offensive line, you build that defense. You get a special guy like Devin Weatherspoon who can play multiple positions, be kind of an impact player. You get a running game like with Kenneth Walker and then a special number one receiver. So you build the things around, I said, if you build it, they will come and they may be that quarterback that you're waiting for that can fill that void. And for Sam Darl, he was that guy for them this year. And I think again for Drake May, a young quarterback, they got there. His future is very bright ahead of him. What's it like after winning the Super Bowl, that highest of highs, and then you have to go back to just normal life? Yeah, and that's why I said to me losing the championship game was much harder. And I lost that four times. I've lost the Super Bowl once, won it once. But losing those championship games was harder because you know, you sat there for two weeks and you're looking at the team that you had a chance to beat. And you could have beaten them. Look at the Rams and they could have gone there to Denver if they had their quarterback. Do they get there? Do they have a different outcome? So you watch it for two weeks. But after this game, everyone's next weekend, everyone's watching in-state basketball. I mean, so there's nowhere football. There's finality to what you do. And I think that's the thing to me. I know the day after we won a championship, I was in a basketball gym watching my daughter play basketball back in Pittsburgh. And so it was like, okay, now it's off season comes and there's normality. And my wife was telling me where to go and what time I needed to be there, what time's the game. So it's just like, you know, when the season was over, it's like the projects were thrown right in front of me. Okay, I know this is where I go. I do have a combine coming up. I'm so like, okay, but until you have the combine coming up, you've got at least a week of all these things we talked about doing. So it's just this chockin' and it's just start to check them out off the list. You have some projects to do. And oh yeah, by the way, your daughter's playing a basketball game tonight. Gotcha. I'll be there. Thanks for joining us all season long. We appreciate your insight. Your sense of humor. Yes. And can I ask you a question? Like, what's the story behind the bar? This is Green Bay. We went out for the draft and there is a place called the bar. Okay. And we held our, we did our show up there a couple of days at the bar in Green Bay. So what do you have outlined for Pittsburgh? I don't know. You tell me because we'll be there for the draft. Okay. So can I give you some suggestions? Yeah. Well, I can't do it right now. Let me look and see what's available. Okay. And like, what kind of like, like, do you have a good company that comes with you or you guys, you're not a rowdy group, are you? What do you want us to be? Well, I think it'd be good. Like, I think you got to be able to adapt and adjust. I'm not sure what kind of bar I can get you. So are you adaptable and adjustable? Yes. I am a five tool player coach. Okay. Okay. Whatever you need. If you want to get after it and do some, some drinking. Is that what you're saying? No, no, no, no, no. It's just, it's just, just in the feel for the, just in the feel for the vibe. The vibe. You got to be able to adapt and adjust. Like a game, Dan. Like, like, you, I don't know if it's going to be a high score or a low score. And I don't know. We got to be able to adjust. You adjusted to the bar. I just want to know exactly that was what you, what came from. So I'm just, you're going to Pittsburgh this year. So I just want to make sure I get you the right place. And I know that you're very adaptable. So I'm not going to concern myself with that. I'm from Cincinnati. That's just like Pittsburgh. Oh, yeah. Nice sir. Well, well, I, I, I, I love Cincinnati. Check my record. I was really, really, loved you guys. Just loved you guys. We'll, we'll see you in April, perhaps if you're in Pittsburgh there. And you give us a fritzy. We'll reach out to get some suggestions from you. Have fritzy reach out. I'll make sure I give you some, some, some, some locations that I think will fit the buy that you will bring to that, that, that establishment. Paulie, do you have coach's record? Of course we do. 22 and nine versus the Bengals in his career. Did you ever feel bad beating up on him? No. Okay. My last, my last, my last win as an NFL head coach was down in Cincinnati. And it was an overtime. It was a slam pass from Dick Renbrough. It was burger at the San Antonio homes. And we walked off. We won that game. And when they said who day, I said we day. Man, okay. Man picked on my Bengals. Yeah. Okay. Well, I, you know, I, I gave you Marvin Lewis. He was he coach for Pittsburgh for a long time. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I said, Dick, Dick LeBone too. Actually, I got the Dick LeBone for you and sent him back to you. Yeah. And then he came back. Yeah. Great, great man. Great coach. Good man. Really good. Very good coach. Good man. All right. Thank you coach. Talk to you soon. That's Bill Cower. Yeah. I felt like he was challenging me a little bit there. Like, let me see what you got. I'm not comfortable. We can, we can go in, have an elegant dinner. We can go and slum it. We can go to a pub, dive far, whatever it takes. We do it all. Yeah, Paul. But we're hooked up now. Bill Cower vouching for us in Pittsburgh. I mean, scholarship. I got to make sure he goes to Pittsburgh because he's in New York. So I need, I need a hometown crowd there, but that's in April that will be in Pittsburgh for the draft. That's our next road trip. All right. Let's take a break. 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Puts down Seahawks. The Seahawks defense. They have done it again. Seattle's defense like Philadelphia's last season finished with three takeaways. That's your play of the day courtesy of the Seahawks radio network brought to you by True Green. Don't waste another weekend doing your lawn care yourself. Partner with the official lawn care treatment provider, the PGA tour and get a golf course quality lawn the easy way. Sign up at truegreen.com then sit back and relax. Super Bowl odds for next year. Seattle is your favorite. Followed by the Buffalo Bills. Then the Rams Ravens. Packers, Chargers, Chiefs, Patriots, Eagles all at 14 to one. The Detroit Lions 15 to one. Niners 16 to one. Let's see. Any surprises in there? Yeah, so New England's at 14 to one, but Seattle at 8 to one. And Seattle's, I think Kenneth Walker Jr. the third is a free agent, like a free free agent. I don't know what kind of money he would command on the open market. You got Jack, Zach Charbonnet coming back. Man, it had to be tough. You're in street clothes on the sidelines and you're supposed to be, you know, that change up. You go in there. I mean, it's better to be on the sidelines when your team wins than to be on the sideline when your team loses. But they seem to be set. Feels like and they made some real. I mean, that's a great front office. If you've done that with a couple of different incarnations, didn't Russ, I think Russell Wilson said, Go Hawks, was that his message after they won? That was nice. Go Hawks. And I couldn't help but think of the trade and I don't have the exact details. But the draft picks they got when they traded Russell Wilson to Denver, I think it might have been all four of those draft picks were on the defense last night. I think so. I have it somewhere in my phone because I wrote it down as a message to me and then forgot to bring my phone out here. So if you see the draft picks that Seattle had in relationship to the Russell Wilson trade, yeah, Pauley. Devin with a spoon. That's one of them. They got part of that trade. Charles Cross, Boye Maffee, so starters, good starters. Yeah. Depth. Yeah. So Russ instrumental in helping the Seahawks with that defense. Lucas in Texas. Hi, Luke. What's on your mind today? Hey, good morning. Hey. Tariqo had one little comment right at the end of the game yesterday that got me thinking the Seahawks won their second Super Bowl, joining the tier of 17 teams that have won multiple Super Bowls. Kind of made me think though, the NFC West is now one of three divisions that has at least three teams with multiple Super Bowls. So kind of the most historic, best overall divisions. Can you guys name the other one that has three winners and can you name the one division that has all four teams with multiple Super Bowls? NFC East. They're four for four. That's the big one. And what's the other one with three? The other one with three. That they won the Super Bowl? Yes, multiple Super Bowl wins. Okay. Yes, Paul. NFC South. Just the fucking ears there, guys. Marvin, you got a guess. Not the Saints? Yeah, the Saints won. But three out of the four teams have won multiple Super Bowls. Feels like you're yelling at us, Lucas. All right, tell us. The NFC West. Come on, Fritzi. Broncos, Chiefs and Raiders. Thank you, Lucas. It's early. You know, we're tired. There's a little too heavy lifting there. I know. Come on, Lucas. I'm still on West Coast time. Adam in LA. Hi, Adam. What's wrong?���������� love over hate everyone and the worst for me was watching that c-hawk team just dominate i i knew they would uh... drake made me i disagree with you was not the mvp he looked very flawed whether he was injured not easy way to say now after the fact but i just felt like i was that drake may during the regular season was the mvp in my opinion well is that also okay no you saw what he had to work with last night i i staffer was wonderful he was loaded drake may made the super bowl didn't play well in the postseason but during the regular season which the war is based on drake may to me was the mvp i'm gonna get that tap out uh... that's funny and the bad bunny halftime show you know as i tell people they like you're gonna watch the bad bunny and i said if i'm in the room with my wife and two daughters yes i'll watch that it turned it off from you know leave the house if you want to i thought the choreography was great uh... you give me lady gaga and any performance uh... ricky martin was a nice surprise but i thought that it you know there was a lot going on there was entertaining i don't know his songs uh... but i i i was curious about it it's not the end of civilization we all survived it's okay yes ball i nerd out with the production of the halftime show no matter who's doing it how they get everything logistically on the field and off do you see how there's hundreds of trees on the field those are people i didn't realize that till the very end when i saw them from a top shot walk up those are people in tree outfits yeah to make the process faster you put it on your resume you were tree during the hell yeah hell yeah yes twenty one dollars an hour those guys but is it like uh... katie perry when you had the shark like you put that on your resume you were the shark in her video yes dot none of those people have a panic attack inside those tree costume oh my god imagine you in the tree costume but if i said you could have been in the halftime show you're gonna be a tree could you've done that no and i would have i would have wanted to but knowing from past experience i wouldn't want to have to be rushed to some medical center outside the state i don't know if you'd be rushed but they would think you were joking that you can't breathe inside you imagine bad bunnies walking around you here to i'd go on i can't breathe can't breathe mister bunny can you get out of this costume i'm stuck in the branches my i'm stuck in the brad mister bunny mister i thought the commercials were kinda sad kind of really sad i know and i you know my wife goes uh... hey you keep getting up to go get a beer or i was smoking a cigar i choose don't you wanna see the commercials i go now made it's like everyone collectively forgot they're supposed to be entertaining they remember like you guys are supposed to think about these is supposed to be like something you look forward to and that all yes i it's supposed to look like you put work into it like some creativity yeah polly it did feel like the overall tone was sentiment not comedy or shock value yes that's a more sad super bowl commercials or patriots offense i'm gonna say commercials because i had expectations for them not the patriots offense one hour in the books on this monday two more ago ross tucker he worked last night he'll join us coming up let's go! our iHeartRadio Music Awards are coming back thursday march twenty-sixth live on Fox watch as we honor the biggest stars from all genres of music that you love listening to all year long on your favorite iHeartRadio station and the iHeartRadio app hosted by Ludacris icon award recipient john melancham innovator award recipient Miley Cyrus with performances by alex warren kehlani lanie wilson ludacris ray tlc salt and pepper and invoke plus taylor swift makes her first award show appearance this year also gold medal olympian elissa lu nio nick kulsherzinger nickie glazer somber weiser and more watch live on fox thursday march twenty-sixth eddie seven central and listen on iHeartRadio stations across america and the free iHeart app for all the stars and the stars and the stars and the stars��� and this is my friend is much more famous than I am. 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