MBMBaM 801: Bad Idea Blanket
55 min
•Feb 16, 20262 months agoSummary
The McElroy brothers discuss moon landing conspiracy theories, the ethics of holding 'bad ideas' in modern society, penguin interaction strategies, and review Buffalo Wild Wings' T-Pain collaboration song and sauce-filled vinyl records.
Insights
- There's a cultural shift where harmless conspiracy theories (moon landing denial) are now treated with suspicion due to bad-faith actors using similar rhetoric for dangerous misinformation, making it harder to tolerate fringe ideas socially
- The distinction between holding private bad ideas versus acting on them or promoting them publicly has collapsed in modern discourse, creating social friction even for low-stakes misconceptions
- Brand partnerships with musicians are becoming increasingly explicit about product placement, with T-Pain naming specific menu items and prices rather than subtly integrating them into lyrics
- Parasocial relationships with mascots and fictional characters can feel more authentic to audiences than celebrity guest appearances when the character has consistent, recognizable traits
Trends
Conspiracy theory normalization through mainstream media exposure making it harder to distinguish between harmless cranks and coordinated misinformation campaignsDirect-to-consumer brand collaborations with musicians shifting toward transparent, transactional messaging rather than artistic subtletyLimited-edition collectible merchandise (sauce-filled vinyl records) as brand engagement tools targeting social media virality and collectibilityPodcast sponsorship integration becoming more conversational and personality-driven rather than read-from-scriptQR code and social-forward video strategies in fast-casual restaurant marketing targeting younger demographics
Topics
Moon landing conspiracy theories and historical revisionismMisinformation vs. harmless conspiracy theories distinctionSocial tolerance for fringe beliefs in modern discourseBrand mascot authenticity and parasocial relationshipsCelebrity guest appearances on podcasts and interview dynamicsFast-casual restaurant marketing and Valentine's Day promotionsMusician brand partnerships and product placement integrationCollectible merchandise and vinyl record marketingPersonal finance app features and subscription managementHome furniture e-commerce and customizationPenguin behavior and animal interaction strategiesCarpal tunnel surgery recovery and gaming limitationsPodcast sponsorship and advertising integration
Companies
Buffalo Wild Wings
Featured in extended segment about T-Pain collaboration song, limited-edition sauce-filled vinyl records, and Pick 6 ...
Rocket Money
Personal finance app sponsor offering subscription cancellation and spending monitoring features
Wayfair
Home furniture and decor e-commerce platform sponsor mentioned for customizable shelving and office renovation
Spotify
Streaming platform hosting Buffalo Wild Wings' limited-edition album with five original songs
DoorDash
Delivery platform where Buffalo Wild Wings is listed as a 'gastro pub' according to episode discussion
Apple TV
Streaming service mentioned as home of 'Severance' show discussed as potential penguin conversation topic
People
Buzz Aldrin
Apollo 11 astronaut referenced for his angry reactions to moon landing denial conspiracy theories
John Mellencamp
Musician discussed in failed impression bit; brothers debate whether 'Cougar' is still part of his name
Ed Harris
Actor mentioned for roles in 'The Truman Show,' 'Apollo 13,' and 'Westworld' in conspiracy theory joke
Neil deGrasse Tyson
Astrophysicist referenced as credible source on moon landing facts in listener question
Quotes
"You used to be able to enjoy bad idea people for their bad ideas because there wasn't some worry that someone would be like, yeah, I'm not sure vaccines work. And someone would be like, hey, I heard that. You want to be in charge of vaccines?"
Travis McElroy•Moon landing conspiracy discussion
"It's a little weird we haven't gone back in like 50 fucking years. Nothing's changed there, though. Like, if I went to a movie theater and saw a movie, in 50 years the movie theater was showing the same movie. I'm not, like, a dying to go."
Griffin McElroy•Moon landing discussion
"I think the moon landing is real because of how mad Buzz Aldrin gets when you say it is not."
Griffin McElroy•Moon landing conspiracy discussion
"There should be a cycling. There should be a cycling. That's all the shuffling of the roles."
Griffin McElroy•Social media comment discussion
"Buffalo Wild Wings, the amount of money that you had to pay T-Pain to be this enthusiastic about your product, you could have paid me so much less, and I would have been enthusiastic about it, too."
Travis McElroy•T-Pain Buffalo Wild Wings segment
Full Transcript
The McElroy brothers are not experts, and their advice should never be followed. Travis insists he's a sexpert, but if there's a degree on his wall, I haven't seen it. Also, this show isn't for kids, which I mention only so the babies out there will know how cool they are for listening. What's up, you cool baby? One, two, three, four! It's the start of something beautiful. A small acquaintance has blossomed It's ripened into a precious friendship I could have never seen what was coming for me Hangs at the skate park, hangs by the beach My life, it feels like My life, ah, it's better, it's better with you My life, ah, it's better, it's better with you It's better with you. This is true. It's better. It's better with two. My life. It's better with you. Hello and welcome to My Brother, My Brother and Me. It's an advice show for the modern era. I'm your oldest brother, Justin McElroy. Love is in the air. Whoa. Everywhere I look around. What's up, Tribe Nation? It's me, your middle-est brother. Travis Big Dog, Wolf Wolf, Vroom Vroom the Heater, Cupid McElroy. Everybody's kissing on their dates. Huh. Going to the hot dog restaurant to kiss my girl. John Mellencamp? So, hi, everybody. I'm Griffin McElroy. Oh. The youngest brother and also John Mellencamp. Sorry. Do you guys want to do a bit where I'm John Mellencamp? I don't know. I'm super good. Have you always been John Mellencamp? No. I've never seen you and John Mellencamp in the same room at the same time. Yeah, I don't know much about him except the middle name thing. So if you guys want me to be him for a bit, I can try. Like for a bit, I can try. But I don't think I would do a very good job of it. Well, let's try. John, what kind of stuff goes through your head when you're writing a song about America? I can't fucking do it. Okay. I can't fucking do it. Hey, Mr. Mellencamp, what's your... What is Griffin getting up to today? Well, Justin... I can't fucking do it, guys. I don't know how to fuck. I can't fucking do it. You can't even talk about yourself as... No, because what's he do? What's he sound like? I know you had Cougar, but I don't want to do a joke about that. In your head. In your head, when you go to do an impression like that. Yeah. What I see is, and this is true, I see the person who I'm doing the impression of seated in an uncomfortable stool in front of me, staring at me, blank face, like, well, what have you got? What do I sound like? In that instance, it felt a little bit more like it was my birthday and I had been anticipating that my friends and loved ones were going to throw me a surprise party. Yeah. When I got home and then I opened the door to my front house, to my front door to my house, and then there's no one there. And that's what it feels like when I try to do an impression like John Cougar Mellencamp. I don't know him. I don't know anything about the guy. Yeah. I don't know either. I think he prefers John Mellencamp. I don't think he does the Cougar thing anymore. No, I think that's, again, the only thing I know. It's an implied Cougar after the Mellencamp, I think, at this point. I think he kicks ass. It's a silent Cougar in the middle. It's a silent Cougar. All Cougars are silent. I don't think it's particularly funny because again, it's like a thing. Like he did this in like 1997. But I do want to say like now it's 2026. Like it kicks ass that you can just put the name of like a big mountain cat. I've been doing it. I put big dog right in the middle of my name and no one said shit. Yeah, just toss it in there. I just feel like with our audience, eventually if someone hasn't done something in 20 years, we should stop talking about them. Absolutely. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, for sure. it's nothing personal against Mr. Mellencamp I know he has his fans but I just feel like we're not winning for those points this should be about Bad Bunny Super Bowl commercial with John Cougar Mellencamp where he's like and we're bringing back the Cougar and maybe it's for Cougar Town reboot that come into ABC's Cougar Country was Cougar Town the name of the real show or was that the parody that community came up with Cougar Town was the real show. Hey Griffin, those were the same thing. They talked about the real show Cougar Town on Community. I get it. Again, it all gets mixed up in there. Empty surprise party. I love you guys. I just wanted to say. I love you guys. We're recording this the day before Valentine's Day. Well, I don't feel that kind of love for you guys. I have so much love for you guys. Obviously, I built my life around you guys. There's a huge amount of love there, but not this kind. I don't think it has to be a romantic love to say I love you to my brothers. Well, but you tied it to Valentine's Day, which is the romance holiday. I would get Valentine's presents for my kids. It's like when people wish me Merry Christmas on Christmas. It's like, yeah, obviously. Why aren't you saying this shit in April? Well, no one says Merry Christmas anymore. You know what I mean? Have you guys noticed that? Justin, spin me a yarn because it feels like you're ready. You've got the yarn sort of tangled up in your hands and you're ready to present it. Like a kitty cat? like a kitty cat. What are you talking about? Oh, it felt like you were about to launch into a story and then we started talking about some bullshit. What is it that people keep doing with me? You know, it's very confusing. Oh, here we go. People have been doing this with me the whole time. Why is everybody trying to guess? Why does nobody just ask? You know? Sydney was talking about going to the store earlier and I was like, yeah, sounds good. And she's like, well, you're not going because I have my arm thing. And it's like, why don't you ask? See if I want to go to the store, you know? And then you're like, tell me about this yarn you got spinning. I don't do that to you. I don't say, do your best John Cougar Mello game impression. You know what I mean? You did explicitly fucking say that. You completely and totally said almost those exact words in that sequence. As a result, there's been light memory loss as a result of some of the painkillers that were used. There's been light memory loss and mood swings. I cannot be held accountable. Wait, do people know what you're talking about? You can't just talk about the arm thing. This is not a big deal. I had a carpal tunnel surgery. It's a mild carpal tunnel release and a cubital tunnel release. I had a surgery on my arm and my elbow so that my body would work the way it did before. To open up all the tunnels. What? To open up your tunnels. To widen the mouth. Yes, my tunnels are open. Honestly, I haven't been able to game. I haven't been able to game in the way that I need to. if I game for more than 10 minutes my hands fall asleep you used to do 48 hour sessions I used to poop sock through fallout I used to be the master chief's number one guy but now I'm rebuilding like a lot of the great athletes I hit the showers I'm taking some time to recuperate physically and then I'm going to be back out there I'm excited for you I'm happy you've had this done and I hope you have a quick healing and great results. What a normal thing to say. Thank you, Griffin. I am a bit grateful that maybe this will spread out some of the comments that I largely get in our social media posts and video contributions to culture where, you know, for Juice, it's always like someone give me my bib, Big Bro's looking like a snack, yum yum. And Travis's is like another great bit because I'm unappreciated by his brothers. and mine are like, doesn't he look so tired? Look at his old gray hair. If he has old gray hair, that must mean that I am also becoming older. So maybe we can, I just have heard from some people that we should spread those around. So Justin reminds people of their sensuality. I remind people of their humanity and you remind people of their mortality is what you're saying. Exactly. And I'm hoping again, we can do a more even- There should be a cycling. There should be a cycling. That's all the shuffling of the roles. Let's help somebody. I've recently gotten to know another dad in my neighborhood because our children play together outside. While our children play, we stand in our driveways and just BS about random topics. Recently, we got on the topic of aliens, cryptids, and conspiracy theories. And while on this topic, he let me know he isn't fully convinced we walked on the moon. And there's a lot of interesting points suggesting it's all fake. Brothers, how do I convince this guy the moon landing definitely happened without him realizing I'm trying to educate him on one of mankind's greatest accomplishments and that's from Neil deGatilow to this guy in Austin. In Austin fills in a lot of blanks for me. I do feel like maybe the per capita moon landing denier rate is slightly higher there. Well, what are these good points? I want to know what kind of interesting points. I want to hear the evidence. I want to hear what this guy has to say. The flag waving, I've never heard a moon wind, have you, Travis? And there's no explanation for that. Oh, fuck. Yeah, so there's no explanation for why the flag could be up. Because there simply is no moon wind. Let's put some parameters. Okay. We definitely walked to the moon. The moon landing was real. I mean, we didn't. There's no question about that from the three of us, right? Yeah, absolutely. We definitely walked to the moon. I will say. No, see, I do want to get the- I will say. Let me get these guardrails in place. Sure, sure, sure. Let me get these guardrails. Yeah, go ahead and get the guardrails. Definitely walk to the moon. There's no question about that from any of the three of us. No question, for sure. I mean, that's assuming the moon's even real. Well, okay. That's obviously, that's very silly. And I do appreciate you making it all so silly. Oh, really? Have you seen Truman Show, where Ed Harris is up in the moon, and he's watching Truman? Oh, and what movie was Ed Harris also in? Apollo 13? The clues are all there, Griffin. Yeah. No, you got a good point, Westworld. Westworld. Thank you. What a storied career that man has had. Truman Show, True Moon, The Truth of the Moon. True Moon. Real Ed Harris up watching us jerking it always. Yeah, Herbert. That's the mnemonic device I used to remember. We absolutely landed on the moon. When I go to the Air and Space Museum here in Washington, D.C., a tear comes to my eye every time I even think about the moon. It's a little weird we haven't gone back in like 50 fucking years. Nothing's changed there, though. Like, if I went to a movie theater and saw a movie, in 50 years the movie theater was showing the same movie. I'm not, like, a dying to go. Folks, you don't have to hit. I know there's reasons why. But it's a little suspect. 50 years, don't you think someone would have accidentally landed on the moon at some point? I think it is. The only thing that I think is weird is that, especially now, all the other countries just kind of trusted us to say what's up there. I would want to go up there myself not to say you didn't but I want my own butchers up there look around for rocks maybe get one huge rock that I'll name after myself do we know what the moon smells like well there's no air but we have brought the moon back to earth and it's probably huffed it good like you know there was probably a lot of experiments oh yeah what does moon smell like let's see if we can get fucked up this is going to take me so long to google because I only have one hand so be patient here's my thing even if i didn't know any of the science or history about the moon landing yeah i can tell you it's real because it's been like 50 years and that would be an exhausting conspiracy to have to keep denying and explaining 50 years especially as you passed it like to different like generations of people like now it's your job to keep lying about this thing we did, please don't tell anyone. It's acrid, like ashes in a fireplace. Whoa. That's cool. I wouldn't think that, because I would think the moon is cold, and so I wouldn't think fireplace. But I love that smell. That's awesome. Yeah. It's cool. It'd be cool to have a piece of the moon, I think. Well, yeah. A glowing piece of that radical rock? No, I think it's obviously probably not ethical, because it's like you're not supposed to pick up rocks in nature and bring them home, Yeah, the moon is like the most natural thing that there is because only two dudes have been on it. I think the moon landing is real because of how mad Buzz Aldrin gets when you say it is not. Yeah. I don't think that anger could come from such a pure place if he knew it was all soundstage, no moon wind, phony baloney bullshit. That's true. He wouldn't have the guts. He beats ass. He's beaded ass before, and I don't know if he's alive or not alive. Juice, can you Google that for me real quick? Buzz Aldrin alive or not? Yeah. But he gets so mad and he's like, it's ass-beaten time. The two Zs next to each other are a big help because I don't have to go. And he's old enough now that if it was a lie, he'd be like, yeah, fuck it, whatever. Yeah. Who cares? Oh, for sure. Who gives a shit, man? We were in Pasadena. The moon of the earth. California's moon. He's alive right now, 1930 until question mark. Ooh, there's like a fun, No, that's like implied. He 96 Oh okay I thought Wikipedia said tell question mark which had this had this sort of enigmatic No it an implied question mark that we all Yeah, I mean I think that it's- You know, this is- this is why I wanted to put these guardrails on here because I do think it's okay for everybody to have a little- For this kind of stuff! Specifically, this is borderline. Not anything. Don't you think this is about as far as it should go? Well, because, yeah, I'm just saying that they're not out there. They're not out there crowing about it. They don't wear a shirt about it. I think we need to have in our hearts room for that. Because I think that everybody, there shouldn't be forced into groupthink just because it makes other people uncomfortable, right? but you also if you have a bad idea you shouldn't tell people about it but i think you have the right to hold this person let you get several conversations in before they showed you their one little thing that they know isn't right and they know it's wrong like i know it's wrong like anybody who brings it up has never said it with the confidence of a fact they're like and i think and I guess what I'm saying is. I'm leaving the door open too. Yeah. You know. It's cute. It's like everybody can have a little one. I don't know. Just don't know what I'm talking about it. A little, not any, again, I must stress, don't have a little one that's worse than this. No, I have feelings about ghosts that maybe aren't mainstream. This is the problem. But it's fine. Let me talk about the problem with the government. Sure. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can I turn my camera off while you do it? No, it is fine for you to have these bad ideas. What we have done accidentally here, like this person, it says, I don't know about the moon thing. What our current government presupposes is what if we take that person and put him in charge of moonshit? And this is where the breakdown is, right? Because there's all these bad idea people that are in charge of things now, which has turned us all against bad idea people. You know? You know, you used to be able to, all I'm saying is you used to be able to enjoy bad idea people for their bad ideas because there wasn't some worry that someone would be like, yeah, I'm not sure vaccines work. And someone would be like, hey, I heard that. You want to be in charge of vaccines? Like, that's the world we live in now. It used to be okay to have bad ideas. You used to be able to enjoy them. It used to be people were just cranks. You know, that's wrong. You can just do that. That's hard. That's cranks. Wrong headed cranks. That's Todd. He doesn't believe we landed on the moon. Ha ha ha. What a character. it doesn't have to be and he doesn't believe vaccines are real and he's also in charge of the DHHR and it's like why that's not the fun part there used to be a decent dragnet that would catch bad idea folks from running the organizations but now they just have hearings for him and it's like I saw you say this bad idea on X the everything website that is specifically about this thing you're going to be running do you feel that and then they'll be like nope and then all of us would be like, sounds good, you're in charge now, and then they're like, pranked. Pranked you, gotcha. I just think it's a bummer that people can't have bad, wrong ideas anymore just because those have gotten us into such hot water. You know what I mean? Sure, just quiet, harmless, bad ideas that they keep to themselves, and it's like you get a drink in them, and they're like, yeah, but the moon thing, and you're like, Todd, Todd, Todd. I feel like moon landing is a kind of bad idea that you can have that then isn't necessarily a gateway drug to like 50 other bad ideas that I suddenly now know that you have. Flat Earth is one where that's interesting because you would think it's about the same thing. But when I hear that you have that bad idea, I'm immediately like, oh, I know nine other bad ideas you got. You are sorted away. That's very true, Griffin. That's a good point. And there are lines and there are borders. I am just saying it is the fact that this person has a wrong idea doesn't intrinsically hurt you. What's hard is that we've been so hurt by so many bad ideas lately that we're all so gun shy about people who possess them. It should be okay for people to hold and treasure bad ideas that they do not act on. That's very sad that we don't have room for that anymore. But I understand it, right? Because as you say, Griffin, there is the fear that this one little thread, you pull at this one bad idea thread, and eventually- And there's a whole bad idea blanket that falls out. Yeah, sure. Oh, no. Oh, boy. It's weighted, too. Oh, man. Oh, no. Send him to me. Send him to the Air and Space Museum with me for a day trip. Griffin will set him right. I'll set him fucking right. I'll teach him all about the Wright brothers. Griffin will make him smoke a whole pack of the moon. You know what I mean? I'll make him smoke a fucking fat blunt with me in the bathroom at the Air and Space Museum. They are- Just talking about bad ideas. Getting buzzed Aldrin smoking a huge blunt. Getting buzzed Aldrin in the bathroom of the Air and Space Museum. It's the one museum they let you fucking blaze. It's the one museum where they let you blaze. You've seen that shit at the portrait gallery. You've seen that shit at the portrait gallery. You have some air. Yep. Absolutely. You know why people get that way about the moon landing, really, though, right? Because they're not allowed to go. Yeah, it sucks. Yeah, it's fair. If you're mad, you want to think, you want to decide that nobody went because it sucks so hard that like eight guys went that sucks right it would be better if nobody went that's more fair but i'm sorry it just didn't shake out that way apologies how about another question should i like that yeah i i would i would have liked a little bit more enthusiastic yes yep i have gotten the opportunity in a few weeks to go meet some penguins the event description says the penguins have personalities and will choose who in your group to interact with independently. Brothers, I desperately crave validation, especially from our animal friends. How can I become the favorite human of these waddling little guys over my friends and family? And that's flightless in February. Other than touch 100 sardines. Like that one's pretty obvious. Sardines in your pocket is good. Sardines in your pocket is good. Sardines in your pocket is not good. I bet they search for that. Yeah, because they will check you. If you already got the stink on your hands, there's nothing they can do about that. but they will check you for small food. And you don't want to get swarmed either. Like suddenly the penguins eat your pants off. Oh my God. Yeah, when rock hoppers trying to gobble my balls off. Have you guys seen the videos? They pop up on my For You page because I love aminals. Of like, we had an adoption event where the dogs chose the people. They would go and they let like a dog into like the lobby of the auditor and there's like people sitting around and the dog, like they go up and they get excited about one person and they go home. And I always think about, They never show the opposite side of that, where there's like one guy left at the end of the event and no dog shows, and he's like, well, I guess. Mr. Beast will get him. Mr. Beast won't let him go home hungry. Maybe they found a cool rock on the way home or a stick he can raise. Maybe he can have a pet rock. And also there must be something wrong with that guy. If 100 dogs decided they didn't want to go home with them, they could probably sense some justice. Sense danger. I put a hundred dogs and a hundred perverts into one circle. Is there an attitude that one could project? Because you don't want to be too eager for it, obviously. Yeah. Right? And you don't want to seem like you're making fun of the penguins because they smell that on you just like sardines. Yeah. But you also don't want to be too aloof. That's their thing. Yeah. They're among our most aloof birds. That's why everybody likes them so much. They don't need us. Yeah, if they were hungry for it, if pigeons were constantly trying to get your attention, you don't want that, right? You also don't want one of those crazy looking penguins to come for you, right? With big eyebrows? Oh, what is that, a rock hopper penguin? I think it's an emperor. Is that the emperor? I thought the emperor was just sort of the thick lad, the big thick, tough lad. Oh, if you have a kid, bring the kid with you and kind of sit on top of your kid. And then the penguin sees that and they're like, that's what we do too. That's my jam. I love that. We got something to talk about. I do it like this. Show me how you use it on your kid. We have eggs. You seen Surf's Up? We didn't like that one. We thought that that was bullshit, actually. I prefer Happy Feet. That's real. Happy Feet rules. We do do that in real life, but Surf's Up is fucking Hollywood bullshit. And I want an apology. If I was a penguin and you showed me Happy Feet and you showed me Surf's Up and Happy Feet results in a penguin dancing to make human beings happy versus a movie where a penguin from the arctic follows his surfing dreams yeah uh griffin i think you've got history wrong here i think i know exactly as a penguin which film i would support i bet every fucking penguin has a story about a relative who is in march of the penguins right yeah oh yeah every penguin's like oh yeah my brother dave you know the one guy who falls off the ice flow at the one point then comes back up and everybody's like yeah all right that's my cousin dave actually it's crazy the one that dropped the egg and was like oh fuck that's dave that was my that was actually my uncle dave that was my brother-in-law dave he's in that flick when you meet the penguins if you said and i mean i watched march of the penguins do you think the penguins like that or not it just seems too hungry you're trying you're trying to understand their culture but it's like you did it in the most lazy lazy fed way possible they don't know if they're in march of the penguins they don't have movie theaters you know what i mean yeah yeah that's That's our thing. Talk to them about Severance. I bet penguins love Severance. Now that's cool. You guys haven't seen this. So like, I'm not gonna tell you about some movie that's like about you and your life. Yeah, you don't wanna hear that. Like surfs up. But there's this kick ass show on Apple TV. It stars Apple Scott. I feel like though, if you, it's gotta be a show that's done. It's gotta be a full arc. Cause if you get to like where they're at in Severance right now, they're gonna be like, and? And then what? I don't actually know. And don't start with Supernatural, that's 15 seasons. There's no way you're getting through that. Yeah. You went two tops, in and out. One of them Netflix dramas that they didn't give much of a shot after that. Just get in and out. Penguins would love that shit. I think you could do Walking Dead, and then that's fun, because there's like spin-offs of that, that if they're into that, you're like, and I'll be back. If you guys want, I can come back. If you want more, there's more we can produce. I can tell you more about the Walking Dead universe. Lay down on the ground on your stomach. Hmm. Lay down on the ground on your stomach and look down at the ground. If I was a penguin and a bunch of humans, anytime a bunch of humans walked in the room, I would be like, what the fuck is going on? These giants who are six to ten times bigger than I am. What do they fucking want from me? I love that they, the small fish they bring me, he kicks ass. But like, I don't see any. By the way, the penguin may not think of it that way. because they're so small oh they want big fish? well they don't see it as a small fish oh to them a sardine is like a big fish it's not a big fish it's just like a fish it's just like to them because they're so much smaller that's like a good fish if you brought out a normal fish to us to them that would be giant and ridiculous to them it's like a sardine is like a tilapia fish you don't have to I feel like by introducing that comparison you're inviting a lot of like flavor and texture stuff. But it's just like a size thing. It's just like to them, it's a regular size thing. And it's reductive. I think you could bring in a video of you like beating up a walrus or an orca or something. And I think that penguins are gonna love that, right? Yeah. Like I'll tell you, Travis, the first half of that sentence, I could not remember what this question was. I was on pins and needles. Awesome. Like it was crazy, man. That's cool. You really pulled it out though. To be fair, I couldn't imagine where you were going for a second. It would work in a lot of social situations to make you at least very interesting to people. I kick this walrus. Yeah, the only situation it would do bad for is if you are trying to impress a walrus. Although even a walrus, I think, if you beat the shit out of a walrus and you show that video to a walrus, they'll probably be like, whoa, damn. I mean, pocketful sardines is probably gonna make you some friends in most crowds, right? Like, that's a good one to have no matter what. They will check you. They will check you. We did establish at the top that they will check you. No, Justin's saying in a variety of social situations. There's a lot of social situations where a pocket full of sardines if it was just your natural sort of like, it's sort of like Tom Baker doing with Jelly Babies, just like having them as like a, some people call it a what's it, just like a something that'll get the conversation going. Yeah, but you don't want a stinky what's it. You don't want a stinky soggy what's it. Tom Baker wasn't walking around with one bulging, stinky, rotten pocket and people were like, what's your fucking deal? He's like, I'm an immortal time space traveler and they're like, that's cool, but man, holy fuck. Do you like a sardine? No. Oh, is that what that is? Jesus Christ, what do you have? Do you need those? I got these sardines at the dawn of time. Gross. That sucks, dude. That's gross. They're all the rage on Gorblon 5. Okay, that's fine. This is earth. I have an earth nose. That sucks, dude. If you're telling me that like in space, she's so topsy-turvy that like no one is clocking your stinky lenses. It's basically just on Gorblon 5, actually. I don't wanna go to space, I don't think, if people are cool with your stinky whatsafe. This is the TARDIS, it's stinkier on the inside. Yeah! It would have to be yeah if you keep wow He had to store these somewhere presumably on ship You not flash freezing them or something I should get a refrigerator for the TARDIS Yeah, man, you don't have that? Why, of all the things you don't have. I have a big closet full of whimsical clothing, but you don't have a refrigerator? That's great. That's wild, man. Weight limit issues. Okay. Okay, can we go to the money zone? I would love nothing more. It's better. It's better with you. Money. No one knows how it works. Where does it come from? Where does it go? Nobody knows. Money. It's a blessing. That was a haiku, Trap. Thank you. The money flows away. That's five. I guess. Yeah. Good start. But rocket money can help. That's good. up today. You're not going to get the URL. No, you can't get the URL in a haiku, unfortunately. Yeah, that's fair. But Rocket Money is a personal finance app that helps fine and cancel your unwanted subscriptions, monitors your spending, and helps lower your bills so you can grow your savings. I've been using it this year as I try to be a responsible adult for the first time in my entire life. I've used it previously, too. That's not fair, Trav. What? That's not fair. You're a good guy. I'm trying to be a consistently responsible adult instead of a sporadically responsible adult. When you absolutely have to become a responsible adult immediately. Yeah, no, for sure. That's the way I do it, and it's not advice. It's very stressful. No, so I'm trying to be responsible, and man, does Rocket Money make that a lot easier because they'll be like, hey, this thing's coming up. Do you really want to do that? You really want to do this? And it's incredibly useful, and the fact that they will take care of canceling things, which oftentimes I'm aware of the expense coming up, but the idea of having to go through a process where I might accidentally have to talk to a human being and tell them I don't want to use their services anymore terrifies me in such a way that I cannot describe with words, and that's what Rocket Money's for. How can I get it? Well, that's a great question, Griffin, and I'm going to tell you. Let Rocket Money help you reach your financial goals faster. Join at rocketmoney.com slash mybrother. That's rocketmoney.com slash my brother. Rocketmoney.com slash my brother. I've got so much Wayfair in my room. I can see just from spinning around like six different Wayfair items in my office. A lot of which is new, brand new stuff for the latest office reno that I've done. I cannot vouch for this service enough. They've got furniture, decor. They've got everything. Wayfair is your one-stop shop for everything your home needs. Did Jeremy Renner do a renovation show? And if so, was it called Jeremy Renner? I have- I think it- Or Renervations. Renervations is the name. It would be better, I think. Renervations? Jeremy Renner. If you're working on some renovations yourself and you need to fill an area with furniture that fits your fucking exact specifications- Trav, it's called Renervations. It's on- That is better actually. Wait, is that real? Yeah, it's on- I knew that it was something. I don't like that I didn't remember that it existed and I thought that that was like a clever thing that we ginned up and then it was real and that made me feel small. It follows Jeremy Renner who travels across the world to help communities by reimagining purpose-built vehicles. So it's not Jeremy Renner doing your house again. This is still- Yeah, it's still, this is still, there's still meat on this bone. Great. There's still a little bit of meat on this mutton. For real, this thing behind me, this stand, I needed something at an exact height and an exact depth and an exact width. And I was like, and I want it to look nice and I want it to be open and I want it to have three different shelves. Boom, bang, boom, they got me. Wayfair got me. And they got me there. They got this for me. It's the easiest way to furnish a space. Get organized, refreshed, and back on track this new year for way less. head to Wayfair.com right now to shop all things home. That's W-A-Y-F-A-I-R.com. Wayfair, every style, every home. Howdy there. So sorry to interrupt whatever amazing show you were listening to, but it's time for an ad. I'll be so quick and get back to your show. Don't worry. I'm host Austin, one half of a podcast called Secret Histories of Nerd Mysteries that I make with my good friend, Brenda. We talk about the pop culture stuff you like, like Thundercats and Yu-Gi-Oh! Did you know that the Thundercats are cousins with Farrah Fawcett? 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Welcome to Munch Squad It's a podcast with NM Podcast Profiling the latest and greatest In brand eating I watched most of the Super Bowl And I just want to tell you People I'm not going to talk about Your weird Duncan Justin bait With all these freaking 90's people in it That you aired in the Super Bowl with Ted Danson and Jasmine Guy and Jaleel White and Alfonso Ribeira and Jason Alexander and Matt LeBlanc and Jennifer Aniston and Ben Affleck and all those people, I'm not gonna talk about that. Do you know what I mean? But I remember them. I remember all of them. Yeah, I remember them too. And the whole thing's about, do you remember? Can I tell you what's weird? I don't. Like, I think, guys, this might be a Mandela thing where you think those people existed. They never did. No. We never landed on the moon and there wasn't Jaleel White. Jaleel White never landed on the moon this is but this is what they think of you just in case you're curious what they think of you the campaign connects two kinds of 90s comfort the sitcoms people re-watched and the duncan runs people counted on the result is a long buried origin story that feels almost real punctuated by a surprise tom brady cameo and designed to evoke nostalgia curiosity and the hope that the sitcom was real what um so it's like a yeah it's like they're so this is what This is what football Tom was doing instead of leading his team to victory. Yeah, when the Patriots needed Tom the most. Can I tell you guys, I don't know who won the Super Bowl. Yeah, it was the Seahawks in a game that was a largely, from what I understand, kicking-based affair. Mostly kicks, not a lot of throws in this one. Like football. A lot of people were disappointed in that. I didn't watch it. I'm not gonna talk. I didn't watch it. It's called football. I was watching Curdling. Yes. I'm not going to talk about that. Okay. Okay. Because I have to keep talking about, it's hard. When we started talking about the terrible Buffalo Hank and his terrible voice and the terrible way he looks. The voice is cool. I love the voice. The voice is actually great, too. I feel like we kind of entered into this bargain where I have to keep covering all of his comings and goings. And this one is honestly pretty monumental. Buffalo Wild Wings and T-Pain Drop a love song To level up your next date night Awesome So just I got it on a tab I hope he sings Do you suffer from need Let's go Buffalo Wild Let's get a big six meal for two You know I'm a big deal Baby do I have a deal for you I'm talking about two drinks Two sides, two entrees and a cute smile So much love for you What I like about this is that a lot of people when they do songs... No. You must pause it. What I like is a lot of people when they do songs, they're like, we did a collaboration with this person. Yeah. Then usually it's like they did a song and they'll maybe like mention the product in the song. T-Pain is like, he is laying out for you. There is no art here. He is laying out for you exactly what the deal is. Like he's like completely just here's what it is. It's like, this is exactly how much meat you get. With the number of Pepsis included in the deal. With an enthusiasm that suggests that maybe he had already written this song. And he was like, this is embarrassing, but sometimes as practice till my skills don't dull, I'll do like jingles or whatever. And Buffalo Wild Wings, you actually need to hear this one. It's called Let's Go Buffalo Wild. And it fucking hits. Yeah, it's actually, I wrote it for you guys. Let's see if he continues to detail the special. Can I just send a message? You can just send anything you want, Travis. Okay, thank you. Buffalo Wild Wings, the amount of money that you had to pay T-Pain to be this enthusiastic about your product, you could have paid me so much less, and I would have been enthusiastic about it, too. And you would not have been able to write a song. No, absolutely not. But I see this, and I think, I'd like to sell out. Can I please sell out for this much money? Oh, please, please, please. Please. B-Dubs has launched a limited edition six track love album featuring a hit single with T-Pain just in time for Valentine's Day. Buffalo Wild Wings is teaming up with Grammy award winning artist, producer, songwriter, entrepreneur and global cultural icon T-Pain to release Let's Go Buffalo Wild a pick six love song. The catchy new anthem is designed to be the soundtrack for your next Buffalo Wild Wings date night. Can you imagine? Can you take my wife taking my lady love to Buffalo Wild Wings? But not just that Griffin, but like saying like, baby on the way there, have I got the soundtrack for us? The date night soundtrack. If you're curious about what the specials are right now, don't worry because I have my friend T-Pain here to lay them out for you in detail. You don't want to embarrass yourself when you get up to the counter. No, you get there and your wife picks up the menu and you're like, what are you doing? Yeah. The feature song, okay, so the track is so catchy. You'll find yourself craving a pick six meal for two. Yes, of course I do. Yeah, I mean, I would feel that regardless of if I heard a song or not. But also, for one, I want to eat it. Oh. Yeah, yeah. Fans can view the full music video for Let's Go Buffalo Wild, a pick six love song here. Does the buffalo appear in the video? Yeah, wait a minute. Let's keep, let's keep, and then we'll return to the. God damn. They actually, to be clear, they would prefer you not do wild things at Buffalo Wild Wings. despite what Mr. Payne is encouraging here. Okay, here's what I'm hoping for. We're at 120 of a 230 video, okay, guys? What I'm hoping for is a Hank verse. That's what I'm hoping for. The other thing I want to mention is that the video is T-Pain and his, I'm assuming, wife. Yeah. They're sitting at a table enjoying the meal and they're being encircled by what appear to be real cars driving in real circles. Absolutely whipping shitties around T-Pain in his day. Whipping so close. So close. All I can think about the entire time I'm watching this is like, for the love of God, don't let us lose T-Pain in this- To a B-dubs commercial. To a B-dubs commercial tragedy. It also- Please, God. What it proposes is that the perfect- Or his wife. Yeah. Yeah, no, please. Or the Pepsis. The best way to enjoy a fine meal is in a hanger filled with exhaust fumes and burning tires. Okay, I'm really hoping for this hangover, guys. Let's keep digging. Can I say... Okay. Okay, I'm gonna... One last thing. I'm dripping in sauce. I'm a B-dubs boss. That's really good. It's good. It's good, man. It's good. It's sharp right here. Okay. That's a lot, man. That's a lot, man. Hold on. Okay, okay, okay. Does he start out with, does he start out with, Ola, it's Hank? Yes. I think he might have said, Ola, it's Hank, but we are gonna back up and just hear Hank's verse. This looks like Hank is dead. And this is only people who know this guy name He is gonna be on the podcast eventually We have to be a little bit polite this seems like there gonna be a reveal that they spent a hundred million dollars to holographically get dead hank into this video and track yeah like hank is joe c and we've just brought his spirit back for one last verse okay okay so that's awesome Oh boy So here's what Hank does He manages to drop Spanish And then flips it around With a little A-V-E A little slang for everybody Because he's Hank He's a flavor freak He'd be the flavor freak I believe is what he said Trav Okay up in this place stop stop stop me hungry me hungry i don't me hungry so that's somebody else that is not i don't think that's another good thing hank i think you do a lot of bad ones right in a row pal i mean you know everyone has to start somewhere right like everyone somewhere so many artists launch their careers off of the back of a guest verse on a track and uh-huh i do think that hank's craft could use some work could use a little bit more practice but this is how you get it this is how this is how and under the tutelage of someone like t-pain who like has been all over every you know part of this business it's invaluable It's just wild that we're seeing kind of the work take place. Yeah. It is interesting the tonal quality that Hank brings. Yes. As if someone asked Josh Groban to do a guest verse in their song. A lot of interrogative kind of pitch shift upwards like, can I get a drip? And a lot more vibrato than one normally hears in a guest verse. Yes, absolutely. Yeah, that's a good point, Trav. A lot of tremolo coming out of those pipes. Has Beck Bennett always voiced Hank? I feel like at first it was a Beck Bennett alike. Has he always been the man behind the horns? It's possible that they had a Beck Bennett impersonator and then had a great quarter and then paid for the deal. Well, maybe not. I love Hank and I would love to get Hank on the show. Sure. It's a Buffalo character. It's a Buffalo character voiced by Beck. Yeah, but Griffin, he appeared in a song with T-Pain, so how is that? But do you want Beck Bennett to come on the show? Because that would be really fun. I think that would be a great... I am not interested in having Beck Bennett on the show. I am interested in having Hank from BW3s on the show. He plays the role. Can you imagine a duet dropped by Hank of Buffalo and MC Scat Cat together? That would be good. Oh, my God. Partnering with T-Pain to create, can I read the quote? You can, I just like, you said something so wild and it feels like it's wild. Okay, say it for what, Griffin? What did I say that was a Buffalo Wild? Commercial mascots don't do podcast appearance. Like Mr. Peanut never went on fucking Doughboys. Hey Trav, hey Trav, hey Trav. How many seasons has the Grinch's podcast been going? A lot? I don't know. Yeah, like three seasons. You sound so stupid. So that's the Grinch. That's like different. So the Grinch can have his own podcast, but I can't have Hank from B-dubs on my podcast. And what about prime spokesperson, Logan Paul and his podcast, Griffin? Okay, that's different. Neither of those things are like mascots in the way that Hank is a mascot. What are you, okay. They didn't bring the yellow M&M on fucking WTF. Yeah. So you're telling me you think Logan Paul is a real person? No, I'm not saying. I'm saying Beck Bennett would, I would love to have Beck Bennett on the show. We don't really have a lot of celebrity guests and that's by design. It's because we don't really know how to be funny with them usually. Yes. Right? Can we all agree on that? Hey audience, you agree? Everyone's nodding at home. Okay, fine. So I don't necessarily want Beck Bennett on the show, even though I would love to meet Beck Bennett. I'm a big fan of his work. I'm realistic in that. That's not where our skill set is, right? It's not in getting celebrities on the show and cutting up with them. Otherwise, I think we would have climbed a little bit higher up that proverbial mountain than we would have done it by now. We would have done it. Yes, for sure. Hank from BW3s is a riot. And we talk about him a lot on the show. And I'd love to know. I would love to talk about BW3s. I don't think about BW3s as a joke. I go there. I took Tim Batt there. That's true. BW3s go. like I'm a fan okay I'd like to have Hank on the show I don't want Beckman on the show we don't know how to make interviews don't say you don't want I think maybe this is Griffin's hang up it sounds like you draw the line that having Beckman on the show I am saying this is what I'm fucking saying man like who is that Skype call even going to fucking come from you don't want him in a mask but like or a VTuber it could be a VTuber what I'm saying is I would have loved it I would have loved it if we had made the sort of show that had celebrity pop-ins that it would feel funny and natural, right? Where it would be like, part of the show I enjoy is that their famous friends pop in and it's a cut-up and they talk about all the celebrities they know together. That's not the show that, I would have loved that. Travis moved to LA for a couple of years, right? That would have been our moment to be like, this is the show. Don't you pin this on me, Justin. It's not your fault. You were trying. Griffin and I didn't even try. I didn't fucking do anything, dude. But what I'm saying is this is not a show. You remember, like, anytime we've had a famous person on the show, it's a very nice conversation, but we're much more concerned with them liking us than making something funny, right? And Beck Bennett would be the same deal. So I don't want Beck Bennett on a show, even though I'm sure he's a great person. Now, Hank from BW3s, I know everything about him. like you. I'm not gonna be concerned about Hank liking me because I already like his product. We have something in common. Okay. I don't think Hank makes the Buffalo Wild Wings, Justin. I don't think Hank has ever said one unscripted word in his entire life. You think Beck Bennett isn't talented enough to handle it? Now you're being hurtful. I'm saying that. Now you're being mean. The only reason they would let him out to be in something is if it would get more people to eat buffalo wild wings and whack. And it would. I don't think that we could promise them that or deliver them that. You gotta think beyond some of these, like the limiting factors that you're putting up for yourself, Griffin. I'm just saying it would be a great interview, right? Can we agree on that? We would have to do it straight up. Like no buffalo jokes. I would be so embarrassed. Can we finish T-Pain's song? Yeah. It seems like the energy of the video has gone on long enough that it's shifted where his wife is done eating and she is now sitting on a nearby car and watching him continue to talk about how excited she was of the value. Like we're out in the parking lot. We've finished eating. We're going to be late for the movie, T-Pain. We gotta go. We need to go. I would use that hood ornament, by the way. The album? If I could get a Hank hood ornament, I would affix it to my vehicle. So partnering with T-Pain to create a love song devoted to the Pick 6 meal for two felt like an unexpected way to celebrate date night the B-dubs way, said Tristan Baleen, the brand president of Buffalo Wild Wings. whether you're in a relationship or you're just really committed to wings the pick six meal for two is more than just a deal it's a love language and i can't seem to get out of my head the album also features five original and this is interesting mixed genre song awesome mixed genre you know they're not even like it's not like one sound they're kind It's like a world beat. Yeah. You can't quantify these rhythms with labels. To celebrate its release, the album is also getting the collectible treatment with a limited run of sauce-filled vinyl records, each swirling with B-dub sauce as it spins. Each song is accompanied by its own social forward video. Awesome. I'm a human being, and I love when people talk to me like that. I love when stuff is social forward. this is yeah can i i'll show you guys the um buffalo wild wings is listed on door dash as a gastro pub and i don't know how to feel about that it's accurate it's cool yeah yeah it's a sauce filled record it's like a very thin layer of sauce in there it looks cool that's nice to have a reset my account password so i can buy it but they're saying i don't have an account with bw3s which we all know is bullshit i find that hard to believe yeah yeah um the the the Playlist is on Spotify, on Buffalo Wild Wings page that they have. The songs include Let's Go Buffalo Wild, of course. Rinse Me With a Ranch. Rinse Me With a Ranch? Rinse Me With a Ranch. I want to pick six tonight. Buff Dub Dub. That one's probably good. Buff Dub Dub. Picking six with the boys. Hell yeah. And Chewing My Life With You. I lost all my money in a cantina playing Pazak with Dub Dub Dub. What's hard is if I obviously think it would be very good content for our podcast to play all of these. Like I think every single second of all this record would be very good. But I do think that the audience, maybe they're not craving that as much as we are. Like I want to, but do they? I don't know. We could have gotten away with that on episode 800. probably to be like this one's just for us to have some fun a listening party now listen if BW3s wants to sponsor a listening party for this record I'd love to do that for them I'd love to have Hank on the show for that that seems like a great crossover he's not gonna happen thank you so much for listening to our podcast my brother my brother and me thank you to Montaigne for the use of our theme song my life is better with you go listen support enjoy thrive now normally Griffin says that but he's not you know why because he's going off to get ready for one of the many streams we're now doing every single week that's true yeah on YouTube on our YouTube channel McElroy family we do Clubhouse the last Tuesday of every month and the other Tuesdays are Super McElroy Brothers with us doing gaming content all those at noon Eastern time we also do solo streams throughout the week each one of us and if you want to see more of our gaming content, you can follow McElroy Entertainment System on Instagram. We've got a 20 Make It Stick sticker designed by Lucas Hespenheim at mostly based on Instagram. And you can still get the Candle Nights video on demand. You can pay what you want. All proceeds go to Harmony House. It's a really fun show. I hope you'll check it out. Also, 10% of all merch proceeds this month are going to be donated to the Immigrant Law Center of Minnesota, which provides free immigration, legal representation to low income immigrants and refugees in Minnesota and North Dakota. So that is a wonderful cause. We hope you want to support all that and check out all that stuff and buy the merch and see the shows and follow everything and absorb our brand. Please absorb our brand. Yeah. I got, I got a Mickey here that I'm going to throw. Well, you're not on video. Oh fuck. Yeah. Good point. It's gotta be me. Cause Justin's injured. Yeah. I'm on the DL. I got a big pencil. Yeah. Look at the size of this fucking pencil. Give it a whirl, bud. Big old, it's a My First Ticonderoga. Throw that and see if you can stick it in the wall. I'm gonna stick it in the fucking wall. Watch this shit. Give me like five seconds. Hmm. That's a good noise. My name is Justin McElroy. I'm Travis McElroy. I'm Griffin McElroy. That had a nice bounce. It did. My brother, my brother, may you kiss your dad square on the lips. It's better with you