Mackenzie Undercover: The Prenup

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We were not with you three years ago, so it's been so cool to grow and expand. Yeah, and we've grown together. We've grown with Molly. Like, we all didn't know each other before we came together for Dating Detectives. It's been such an amazing friendship and amazing sisterhood and amazing family and community. And we are so grateful for you guys listening. So thank you. And we have big news that I know you guys have been waiting for. We have three live shows coming up in three different cities! Okay, so let me tell you where they are because all the tickets are on sale now. They're in the episode description. So if you live in the Chicago area, we're going to be there on July 16th at the Den. And then August 5th at Orlando Funny Bone. And Mackenzie, where's the third show? In Tampa! At the Tampa Funny Bone! Finally, some Tampa show! We have two! So that's August 6th in Tampa, August 5th in Orlando, and July 16th in Chicago. The tickets are on sale! And it'll be so fun. We've done one live show before in Los Angeles, and it sold out, and everybody was so sweet, and we got to hang out with you after. It was such a good show! Yeah, we did a Mackenzie undercover, and then we got to talk to the audience about your dogfish stories. Oh my god, what a great connection opportunity. So we're excited to do it again. I cannot wait! I'm so excited! This is all my Florida girls, or find us in Chicago, but we are so excited. I can't wait! I can't wait. It's going to be the best dating detective summer. Who knows what the show will be? Maybe we'll do another Mackenzie undercover, because we love those. And guess what? We have one today. Oh my god. Yeah, they're all a doozy, I say, but whatever. This one is really good. Real quick, don't forget Crime Con! The last weekend in May in Vegas. We're going to be on Crime Con, we're going to be on Creator Row, we're going to have a booth, come by and see us. It's going to be amazing. Some of you have already gotten tickets, and I happen to know. I know! I've gotten to meet some of the Vegas listeners, because we did a self-defense workshop there, so I know you're there. Oh cool. Also, it's Vegas. Let's just go hang out in Vegas. Wow, we have so much coming up! Let's get into today's Mackenzie undercover. Take it away! I love how excited you get for the Mackenzie undercover. It feels like it's been a minute. We need one. I know it has, but I wanted to share this story, because it's a little bit controversial. You'll see. I'll just get into it. We love controversy. I know, we love controversy. As a private investigator, typically what happens is someone calls you, it's usually word of mouth, and someone says, hey, if you want a good PI, call this person. I get a call from a woman who is the mother of a young lady. She's in her late 20s, and she says, I need surveillance. She starts to tell me the story. Basically, she says, my daughter's boyfriend just proposed to her, and he won't sign a prenup. First of all, I wanted to know from you, what are your thoughts on prenups? I was just talking about this, because I was at a bachelorette party. We were all talking about prenups. Really? Yes. I don't know that that couple is doing a prenup. The conclusion there was, none of us have that much money, so we're all kind of like, it's fine. We're not too worried about it at this stage in our life, but I think it depends on your situation. If you have built an empire prior to your marriage, then sure, if you're just starting out, maybe it's a little more unnecessary. What do you think? Right. Okay. I think it's obviously case by case, but I can see both sides. If you don't want somebody to sign a prenup, because you don't want to start your marriage with distrust, but at the end of the day, anything could happen. You still want to be protected. I think if it's important to you and you're a good person, based on hosting this show, I definitely am like, security is okay. It doesn't mean you don't love each other, and it doesn't mean you don't believe in your marriage to be like, Right. I've listened to the data detectives enough. I'm putting some protections in place. Right. Yeah. What was your thought when she came to you and was like, I want you to find out why he won't sign the prenup? Obviously, this is case by case, and it's personal preference, right? So there are some people that are really into it, but in this case, she says, our family is wealthy and our daughter thinks it's fine. She's not worried about it. And she tells her mom, she's like, what kind of marriage should be started with a lack of trust? I don't want to go into it like that. She wants to make a point that she trusts him. And the mom's like, well, it's not really your money. I mean, I guess it is, but they have this business anyways. It feels like it's also by signing a prenup, you can make a point that you're trusting as well. You're like, we're not going to need this. Exactly. So it could go either way. So it's no big deal. So the daughter and her boyfriend are the same age. They're in their late 20s. The boyfriend has a pretty decent job at a bank and she helps run the family business, which has been super successful. And it's in their family for generations, which is where her generational family wealth comes from. So they have a lot to protect. This goes back a couple hundred years of business, whatever. So the mom says, I really want to protect the family and the assets. And that makes total sense. And I get that. And 100%, like you're like, this is not her money. This is our family's money. This is just her. So it's not her going into the marriage with trust. It's her protecting us too from this guy. Like you never know. But she said that the red flag for her, and this is why she's super concerned, is that her daughter and her fiance met in college and they both graduated together with business degrees. In college, he cheated on her and they broke up for a spell. And then a year later after graduation, they get back together. So he's done a little bit of soul searching, grew up a little bit, hopefully grew up a little bit. He's done with school. So now he can focus more on her, whatever the case is, they get back together. And she's like, it's different now when we're in school, there's a lot of stress, there's a lot of pressure. And now that's gone, I feel a little bit better. So they get back together. But when they got back together, the mom said that the boyfriend became very love bomby. He's super apologetic. And he's treating her really well. And he's lovey-dovey all over her daughter, saying everything she wants to hear. And the daughter's always ecstatic. Which is bad. That's like an ick to me. Now I'm just like, get off the floor, stop apologizing. You cheated. Get over it. He's trying to prove his worth to her. And the mom even admitted she was like, any mom would want that for her daughter. But this guy, there's just something about it that just doesn't feel right. And you know your mom tuition, we talk about them tuition, we talk about man tuition, but also there's mom tuition. Like when you know, you know, and they had been talking about moving in together, the daughter and the boyfriend. And she was a little bit hesitant. And she said she didn't want to move in until she knew they were going to get married. So now they're together a couple of years. And mom said that he turned the love bombing up to level 6,000. And now he's sending flowers, he's showing up at her work with gifts and just saying everything she wants to hear to make her feel so, so special. And she's like, it makes my daughter feel great. But every time he does these things, it makes me sick to my stomach. Something is wrong. I just don't like it. I don't trust him. So within a couple of weeks of them having this conversation about her saying no to them moving in together until they get engaged, he proposes to her. Wow. He's like, all right, but yeah, she's been waiting for this for years. And he's been avoiding it skating around at dragging his feet, whatever. And the daughter's been like, gosh, I just want him to propose. Every girl wants that. She has her little princess fairy tale dreams of a wedding. So he proposes he has a beautiful ring. And she's like, Oh my God, I love you so much. Okay, let's move in together. So they move in together to her condo. And she lives in Tampa. And this is a higher income type of neighborhood, of course, because she's wealthy. And this condo building is gated and surveillance is difficult within gated communities. But I could still get a pretty good view of the building. It's a nice community. They move in together. It's a nice little condo building right on the water. So they get all moved in and she invites her parents over for dinner. And they start having a conversation about this prenup. And the daughter is adamant. She said, mom, I've discussed it with the fiance and we're not going to do a prenup. I don't want to start my marriage with this trust. We've known each other since college. I feel comfortable around him. He wouldn't hurt me. We broke up and even came back together. She has no qualms about it. Oh, I'm imagining this like a drama, a movie scene, like Meryl Streep is like, you're getting the prenup honey. Like Valerie Burton-Elly. So then the parents are clearly upset and they're trying to talk her into a prenup as she starts planning the wedding. So she's going dress shopping and all this. And they're like, Hey, how about that prenup? Well, one day the mom goes on social media, not looking for anything. She just happens to be on social media on her computer and she sees a picture of the daughter's fiance where he was tagged in a photo with another woman and she couldn't see really what the woman looked like. But she said it was pretty friendly. She wasn't super worried about the picture, but she knew it was him. And mom tuition. She was like, I'm going to clock that. Yeah. She clicks on it to see what it was. It's a woman about his age and he had his arm around her. Nothing crazy or sexy. It was just kind of a friendly picture. So she's like, I didn't know if this was just me being extra because I'm already on guard. On guard. I was preying up thing. Yeah. So she's like, I don't want to make a big deal out of it. Well, her husband comes home later and the wife wants to show him what she found. So she goes to pull it up again and it's gone. It's totally wiped off. She can't find it again. And she's like, huh, weird. Okay. So now she can't find the fiance on social media. Nothing. He wiped his accounts. So the dad goes on under his account and he's not blocked. Oh, so she got blocked. It wasn't deleted. It was mom got. She's like, why would he block his fiance's mom, but not her fiance's dad? Especially if she didn't like the photo. She didn't comment on the photo. Well, that's the thing is that she tells me, I don't know if I accidentally liked it where it shows the heart or if it shows who viewed it. No, maybe she did accidentally like it. We all done it. I wonder because you know how when you sometimes you be accidentally clicking. Yeah, you know what you got to do? You load up the profile and then you put it on airplane mode. Yes. Hack. Sleuthing, researching hack. You're welcome. Keep going. So she tells her husband to picture that I saw. I know where that was. I saw the background. It's the gate around the daughter's gated community. It has a very specific gate around it. I know that that's where they live. And so this girl who I know is not my daughter. It's a picture of them together and they're in front of the gated community. So her spidey senses are tingling, but there's no proof. There's nothing crazy. She's just like, I don't trust this guy and I want to protect my family's wealth. So she doesn't want to look bad to the daughter. So she doesn't go to the daughter and say, Hey, I'm not feeling good about this. Let's do something about it. Hire a PI. That's not going to work anyway. Yeah, because she knows the daughter loves this guy. And so instead of thinking with reason, she's going to think with her heart. She knows that about her daughter and a lot of our guests here on the dating detectives, when they're in love, you can't see you're airing on the side of love. You don't want to believe. Yeah, you think somebody coming for your relationship is the enemy. That's what every love song in 2010 told us. Dawson's the world. Yes. So the mom and daughter were going to a baby shower for one of their family members out of state. So they were going to be gone for three days over the course of a weekend. So mom tells me this is a perfect time. Do surveillance. I want to see what this guy's up to. I just want to get a feel for what he does when she's not around. I'm hoping that something happens and it just makes me feel more comfortable or see if he's going off with his friends. Is he really going off with his friends? He had told the daughter, his fiance, he said that he was going to go out with his buddies. So she wants me to do surveillance that weekend and I start on a Friday night. I follow him home from work and that night he goes off with his buddies. They go to a town called Hyde Park, which is here in Tampa and it's a preppy college party village situation. Little preppy. Yeah, preppy. So this is a lot of medical students and law students. So Friday night, he's with his guy friends the whole time. I'm in the trenches with him. Like I'm partying. I'm in there. I'm seeing what he's doing. He's not flirting. He's not talking to no girl. What are you doing during the party? It's like this little like bar. So I'm sitting there. You're just sitting there. Nursing the same beer for three hours. And so I'm videotaping the whole time. Just getting covert video showing what he's doing and I'm like, this is looking positive. Girls are talking to him like he's a human, but it doesn't seem to be flirting anything. I didn't think nothing like that. So Saturday, I get there early. He sleeps in his car is there. He's not moving. Later in the afternoon, he goes and he runs errands. He goes to Walmart. He goes to Home Depot. But what I found interesting was that I would pull up next to him at a red light and the whole time he's out, he's looking at his phone, like he's video chatting. He's smiling while driving. You can tell when someone's talking on the phone and holding it in front of them like video chatting. Totally. He's video chatting the whole time, but I don't know who's video chatting to. So I'm just videotaping when I can and he pulls into one shop and he sits in the parking lot, but he was by himself. So I'm just sitting there waiting to see what happens. Well, he's in the parking lot, but he doesn't get out of his car. And I see that he's pulled into a parking space and he's video chatting still. Okay. And some part of me was like, Oh God, I'm busted. He's calling the cops because usually if they pull in somewhere and don't get out of the car, sometimes they're calling cops. Based on the stories you've told, my parking lot instinct is always, uh-oh, someone else is getting in that car. I know, me too. As he's video chatting, a car pulls into a parking space next to him. And I can from my vantage point where I'm doing surveillance, I could see his whole car and I could see that he hangs up the phone, rolls down his windows and he's talking to the person in the car next to him. But the thing is his vehicle is an SUV. So it sits a little taller and the car that pulled in was lower. So I couldn't see who's driving. I could just see that it was a sedan. So he's like looking out the window and down a little bit because it's a car. But you could totally see that he's talking to someone in the car next to him, but I couldn't see who's in the driver's. So I leave my surveillance position where I'm at in the parking lot and I drive behind the cars in the aisle they're parked in and I take note of the make and model of the car and the license plate, but the windows are dark. It's Florida. So everybody has dark windows here because it's hot. So the windows are so dark. I can't tell who's inside this car and without literally walking between the cars and looking inside, I was not going to be able to tell. For anybody who's new to us, can you remind everyone all of the info you can get just from a license plate? Because it seems like that is the key to everything. A license plate will tell me your name, address, who the vehicle is registered to, who owns that address, and then from there it just explodes this big family tree of name. Man, you can get down to when people had a hotmail email. Yes, you can. And people still have AOL.com. So anyways, it's Florida. Windows are dark. I can't see who's in it, but I did have the tag, but here's the problem. In Florida, when you run the tag and the registered owner of the vehicle is in law enforcement, it does not give you any information. They can register under law enforcement and it'll say, no law enforcement, no information provided. Except that you know they're in law enforcement. Yes, maybe the car is owned by her dad and he's in law enforcement. You don't know. And so I don't have any information and this pisses me off because I'm me. Sure. No information. Oh, okay. I guess that's it. No, that's not going to work for me because I have ADHD. I am nosy. I'm a PI and it's not going to work out. So I document it and the other car leaves, he goes inside, does some quick shopping, comes back out and heads to the condo again, video chatting. Huh. So he's been home for a few hours now and I'm parked outside the community. There's no need for me to go in and risk getting busted by trying to sneak into a gated community, which I would never do anyways. Because I don't want to go into private property and trespass. You would never. So you can see the condo from the gate across the street. So there's no need for me to go inside. I am watching the front door and you just wait for your subject to leave or see what they're going to do next. And it had gotten dark out just like eight o'clock or so. And I see the same model car from the parking lot pulls into this condo parking lot. Well, again, I don't know who's in it. I don't know if it's a guy. I don't know if it's a girl. I have no idea. Maybe it was one of his buddies. We have no idea. I can't prove anything. 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Use code dating at Monarch.com for half off your first year. That's 50% off at Monarch.com code dating. So I see the exact same car, pull into the parking lot, except where they parked was on the side of the building where I'm looking at their passenger door. And because it had just gotten dark, I couldn't tell who the person was. I would have had to really be right there in the community. And so they walk inside. I'm pissed. I'm like, damn it. Why? I can't tell anything. So now I have to go into the community because I need to know more about this car. I want to look inside. I drive to the front gate. No one was driving in or out. I couldn't sneak my way in, which I would never do anyways. Let's be real. So I was getting impatient and I need to find out who this person is in case they leave together. I don't want to miss them. And what else am I doing? Just sitting there like Mackenzie has a hair rubber band in her hands and she's stretching it so far. I can feel your tension of like, oh, it's one of those telephone cord ties. It's about to break girl. So I parked my car and I enter the community on foot. Okay, that's all I'm going to say. You don't need to know no more information. I would never jump a fence or anything to get into private property because that's illegal. So I would never do that. Anyways, continue. I won't ask any questions. So I go in on foot and I walk all the way back to the side of the community and I see the car, but it's dark outside. And even when you put your face to the glass, I can't see in this vehicle because it's dark out in the window, whatever. And because it's me, I decide my ass is going to jump on the hood and look the front windshield of the car. No, you're not because I needed to look inside. What was your plan if she walked out? You're going to be like, oops, I thought this was my car. I would have been like, I locked my keys. Oh my God, this isn't even my car. She's such a good actress. I would have made something up on the spot. I don't think of that stuff beforehand when it comes down to it. I'll start crying and people are like, Oh my God, what's wrong? I don't like this woman is what happened to my car and then my coffee broke and it fell down and spilled everywhere. And so you just start doing that and people are like, okay, I'm done. I don't want to do this. Especially if it's a dude, they panic when a girl cries. Anyways, so I try to bend over and I see that there's something hanging from the rear view and I'm like, this is a girl's car. And I can see there's a tumbler in there. You can tell it's a girl's car. You can just give me a sense for it. I use my flashlight from my phone. I can see that it's a sheriff's office name tag hanging on the mirror. Oh, and it's tilted a little bit. It's not facing forward because of course they can't make it easy. So I have to pull up my phone, do a video, zoom in with the flash on so that I can see the name and then go on your phone and look smart on my phone and look so that way you can see it better. I end up looking up her name and she works dispatch for the sheriff's office. Okay, so she is sheriff's office. So now I'm like, crap, man, she's got some hookup. And thank God I didn't call in because if you're doing surveillance, the local law enforcement, they like it when you call and say, hey, I'm an investigator. I'm working in this area because then they let dispatch know so that if anybody calls in and says, Hey, there's a weird car. They're like, okay, don't worry, we'll check it out. But then they already know that I'm there. So then they don't send, they don't send you in it. How interesting. Do you do that most of the time? No, I try not to, although law enforcement hates it because why send units out if they don't have to. So if they know you're there and they can not waste a unit coming out to look at you, then your goal is not to be visible in a way that somebody's going to call and be like, there's a weird car here. You're good enough to not have that happen. Don't get me wrong, a lot of people will call and they'll say, there's a weird car parked here and most of the times dispatch will tell them they'll send a unit out, but they know that I'm there. So they don't actually send a unit. But sometimes they don't know to do that. And so they'll say, oh my God, and they'll send someone lights and sirens. Sometimes you get busted doing that. So I try not to do that, although law enforcement is like, it's a courtesy. You should do that. And I'm like, yeah, but it's not the law. So I don't have to. So I try to judge it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm glad I did at this point because like, she would have picked up her phone. Yeah. So I'm like, no way. Turns out I'm on the Google machine and this girl has gone to college with both of them. So she was friends with both of them at that college time. And she matches the description of what the mom had described me as the girl in the picture with her daughter's fiance. So now I'm thinking, is this the same girl that was in the picture with them? Well, it makes sense that she lives in the same complex or she's visiting him. Whatever. So now I have this girl's identity and the story is starting to come together. And little by little, you start getting these pieces of information, which a lot of people ask me, if someone visits a subject home while you're doing surveillance, why do you need to know who they are? It's because everything that happens contributes to the puzzle. And you can put it all together and you can paint a bigger picture. Surveillance isn't just sitting there with your thumb in your ass. You're actually doing an investigation. So the story is coming together. It's clear that he's spending time with this girl. And also he didn't mention anything about a friend coming over. So the fiance thinks he's just home chilling by himself, but he did tell her on Friday night he was going out with his guy friends. And that's exactly what he did. When he had the girl come over, he said nothing was happening that night. Nobody was coming over. He wasn't going anywhere. He said he was going to be alone by himself at the house. So anyways, I was disappointed they didn't go out and party together so I could get a video of them, but my job is just Observing Report. I am basically Paul Blart. So I go back to my car and I start to see movement in one of their windows for their particular condo. And the light is on and the curtains are sheer material so you can see silhouettes. Very cinematic. They're on the seventh floor, but you can tell they're in the living room and they're sitting on a couch. You can see the backs of two heads side by side. One's taller, one shorter and you can see the top of a TV. They're sitting inside the heads. They're close. They're both in the same window view. My legs might be touching. You might have a little brush happening. So you can see the curtain moves like the wind had blown it. And next thing you know, I see the silhouette of a shirt coming up off over the arms. Like, imagine watching a shadow where the shirt is coming up over the arms and over the head. So somebody's shirt is coming off. I don't know who's it is. I don't need to know who's it is. I know enough. I know enough. Now mind you, I'm seven stories down and I'm using my camera to zoom. So I'm just videotaping at the window and I'm using the pop out screen on my camera to see what's going on. Because it's a 90 time zoom. Like, it has some really good zoom on my little surveillance. Yeah. So then I decide I'm going to open my sunroof on my car and I'm going to stand out the top of it videotaping that really good shot, which what you're doing is allowed. Yeah. You're on public property. I'm not doing nothing wrong. Obviously, there's no expectation of privacy if you're doing something outside of your home. But where it gets a little tricky and this is where the ethics and the morals come in. If you're doing something in front of a window, is there an expectation of privacy? No, I don't think so. I might be wrong. It's not against the law. Voirism is against the law. You can't just creep into someone's window. Sure. As a licensed private investigator. If I am licensed to be there and you are doing something in front of a window where anybody walking down the street and see a murder through a window, I can use that in court. Yes, because there's no expectation of privacy. Even though there's a curtain there, if the curtain is sheer and you can still see movement, you can document the movement. Now, clearly, you can't tell who's who, but we all know who's in there. We don't take a rocket surgeon. And as far as I'm concerned at this point, there's no real anticipation of litigation. So I'm just doing what I'm paid to do as a licensed private investigator and seeing what I can see. So I open my sunroof and I have one foot on my driver's seat, one foot on my passenger's seat. I'm standing up straight out of the sunroof and I'm just videotaping because I don't know if you noticed, but your windshield is curved. And so whenever you try to zoom in through windshields or through curved glass, it distorts. Yes. And especially when it's tinted, that's even worse. So I was like, I'm just going out the sunroof. So I have a clear shot. I zoomed in so much, you could basically see them doing the deeds. You can see her sitting on his lap, facing forward. Oh my God. And moving back and forth. So who am I to presume they're doing the nasty, but I mean, it don't take a rocket surgeon. Maybe they're just doing a fun new dance we've never seen before. Playing twister or something. I don't know. All you have to know is that this guy has shirts off in his apartment, which he shares with his fiance and it's not his fiance. This is a done deal. We know for sure she's out of town and he's got a weird girl in his apartment. She knows that she went to college with them. Like, she knows them. I hate when people do that. She's not stupid. She knows that they're together. But then you see just like in a movie, if you've ever seen Titanic where she's like, draw me like one of your French girls and next thing you know, they're making out and doing it in the car and her hands on the glass. Of course we all remember the hand on the glass. Right. So she's like bent over the couch basically looking out the window. Her hand is pressed against the curtain against the glass. Are you worried she's going to see you? No, it's dark out and if she does what is she going to do? Come down seven flights. I'll be gone. I have the video. So she's like bracing herself on the window. Y'all know that they are getting down with the get down. You already know. So I document the whole thing. The whole thing. I mean, I'm sad for this poor girl that thinks she's in love. I know. So she ends up staying the night and the morning she leaves. Wait, you might have already told me where's the pionte? Her and her mom had gone out of town for a baby shower. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. Sorry. For one of her family members. So they were not getting home until Sunday night. So this girl leaves Sunday morning. Did you stay in the party a lot all night? No, no, no. So once they had turned off the lights, I pretty much knew I'm not going to waste this lady's money by staying all night, but I got there at six a.m. and by eight or nine and she had her big tote bag. So I don't talk to the mom yet. It wasn't until Monday that I talked to her. I tell her everything that I saw and I give her a play by play and I send her the video. I give her the breakdown. I give her all the information, right? Is she sad or is she like vindicated? Vindicated. She's like, I knew it. This motherfucker. Yeah. So once I sent her the video and the name and everything, she tells me that girl is the same girl that he cheated on the fiance with back in college. Good Lord. And she said that when he cheated on her daughter back in college, that this new girl was obsessed with him and she basically ruined their relationship and she kept threatening him. If you don't break up with her to be with me, then I'm going to ruin your life. So that's why he ended up being with whatever. So this is the same girl and she's like that's God. Yeah. If you're going to be a dick, just be original at least. Honestly. So she ends up telling the daughter and the daughter doesn't talk to her for a week. Like the daughter's like, I need time. And she's like, I can't believe you did this. She's mad at the mom. I think that makes sense. And I don't blame her. I think initially your reaction is I need to put this somewhere, but she'll come around. She's mad at the mom. And so she's like, you're making that up just because he won't sign a prenup. The mom sends her the video and everything and she just doesn't want to believe it. And I think we've talked about this before. I've had a lot of clients who are like, no, that's not real. And so the daughter's like, you're just making that up so that I won't be with him so that you can protect your money. All you care about is money. She's basically taking it all out of her mom. So when I talk to the mom again, she tells me that the daughter asked her fiance straight up, did you have a girl here? And he's like, no, I did not. Your mom is so full of crap. Your mom is just trying to break us up. You're going to hold this cheating thing over my head. And then he sends flowers and he cries and he. Yeah. And then she's like, you know what, let's just do the prenup thing so that my mom feels safe or whatever, because she wanted to test him. And he was like, I'm not signing a prenup for anything. So if you do catch me cheating, I'm just left with nothing. Yeah, exactly, buddy. Yes, that's exactly how that works. That's pretty much correct. So the mom said that the next weekend, they were over there moving him out and they're done. Nice. All right, you did it. You cracked the case, girl. She broke up with him. But I want to make a point that a lot of times my clients, they want to see it before they believe it. But even when they see it, they still can't believe it. And that's because your heart is so strong and your heart is so overwhelmed with these feelings that you can't let yourself believe it. I have a question. When did this take place? Was it recent or a while ago? Several years ago, about 10 years ago. Okay, so AI nowadays, videos are getting more and more real. Yep. Do you think that's going to change your industry? People will be able to say, no, this is a fabricated video and I have a lot more reason to believe that now that AI is so prevalent. So that's why, in my opinion, anybody who gets into the private investigation field, that's why I appreciate states like Florida who have licenses where you actually have to get licensed. You have to go through a background check and all this stuff. Not all states have to have a license? No, there are some states that are like, Hey, you tracked down a missing gumball one time. Sure, come be a PI. Every state governs their own private investigators and some states just don't require you to have a license. Oh, God. But when you actually go through the process of going through the background check and the state that you live in has said, okay, we trust you to do this. Not only is that part of your credibility, but also whenever you work as a surveillance investigator, a lot of investigators are lazy and they lie. And because it's you have to trust somebody a lot. Remember the guy that you followed and he was watching porn in the car? Yep. The other investigator, I did surveillance on him because he said nothing was happening. But I found out that he just wasn't paying attention. He was just working hard in another way. He was not paying attention. He was hooking up, doing drugs, watching porn, whatever. That was awesome. I hated it, but it was a good one. But it just goes to show you that when you work for someone, you have to really set the standard and you have to create a good reputation for yourself. So over the course of 20 years, anybody in the state of Florida, any investigator has probably heard my name and they know your integrity. Yeah. And anybody that you call and say, Hey, I want to hire Mackenzie Folz to do an investigation. She said that I could call you for reference or whatever. They're going to say, yeah, she's good. She knows her stuff. She gets the video. And so that's when you have not only a video or not only a picture, but you have the credibility of someone who is licensed to get this information. That's where you really have to build your network and build your reputation as someone who does the right thing. Someone with integrity, someone who has a moral compass. And that's the only way we're going to combat the AI because anything can be made up now and it could look real. I don't like this world. And then also I'm curious if anybody works in court systems that have to now navigate evidence being, I mean, we've had to deal with screenshots for a long time and Photoshop and stuff. I've never trusted a screenshot. No, I don't either. Unless it's coming from subpoena Verizon documents, then otherwise I'm like, I can make anything and I barely know how to use Canva. You can chat GPT in a car, entire conversation right now to say whatever you want. It's hard to recognize when it's happening. And yeah, I'm just thinking about how we have to really trust our investigators more and more. But that's what happens now. If they were to take that to court and they wanted to check my credibility, I've gone to court several times for my cases and they want to know not only did I get this video and turn it into whoever to show in court, they'll play the video in court. They will also put me on the stand and say, what is your name? How long have you been a PI? What are your credentials? What's your background? What's your history? What's your education? They want to do everything they can to show how credible you are to a jury. You got to get people to trust you by doing the right thing. That's the only way we're going to combat this AI thing. It's scary, but it's true. Sometimes you just need to see stuff in order to believe it. So I'm in sales. I sell makeup online, right? And I hate when I see other influencers like using that don't know. Number one, the filters, but number two, you can see that what they've done is AI. And Ryan, my son, he's 12 and I'll look at a video and he'll be like, oh yeah, that's AI. That's AI. Like he can spot them like that. They know. Thank goodness. Yeah, they know. Also, the apps are so advanced. Most people are editing their photos so much that we don't even realize. I don't even realize and I feel like I'm pretty well versed in it, but nothing is real. Like truly nothing online is real. And it's so easy to forget that. I always say, even on my social media, don't trust strangers on the internet. Don't even trust me. Trust but verify maybe. Yes, you can have a connection, but you still don't really know. Anybody, trust your friend tuition. That's the only thing you should trust or your mom tuition, because this mom knew what was up. She knew. And even though she faced the wrath of the daughter at the end of the day, she got the information. And the daughter's better off for it. Who knows what could have happened. You said it was controversial at the beginning, just that you filmed them getting dirty. That's not your fault. Well, not only video taping through windows, but also the prenup because there's just so much controversy around prenups. It's really a preference thing. It's really about what are you comfortable with? If I say, hey, I have a lot of money and I really want to protect myself. If anything happens in the future, will you sign a prenup? If they say anything other than, yeah, whatever, I don't care. I just want you. I'm done. Yeah. Sorry. That's just my take, but that's because I don't trust anyone. Anybody who loves me for real is going to be like, I don't give a shit. Yeah. And they're going to love that about you, that you are discerning and that you have your experience. If anybody ever were to ask me to sign a prenup, I would want to show them, hey, yeah, you can trust me. I'll sign. I don't write whatever. I'm not worried about this because the two sides of the same argument, you could say, I don't want to print out because we're not going to need it. Or you could say, I'll sign it because I'm so confident that we're not going to do it. Exactly. And I think who that affects the most is when a woman marries a man who they decide that she's not going to work, that she's going to stay at home. I think that's where it gets complicated because if she's not going to work, that means she has no income. And a prenup basically means if we break up, you don't get nothing. Obviously they're all different. So it would need to be worth her time. If something were to happen, I would want some kind of protection. I'll sign a prenup. Just can you make sure it says that I get something reasonable if we break up? There's a book that I just sent you called Strangers that I just finished. And if anybody has read it, it's all the rage right now. It's a memoir about a woman who was dogfish, spoiler alert. But the prenup conversation comes up a lot because she had one, but somehow it got lost in the storage. And she basically just got complacent with it because she was so trusting. And as you can imagine, it comes into play in a way that is not good. And I don't want to spoil too much, but it's one of those dogfish stories where you are left speechless and with so many questions. Whatever was going through this man's brain, I still don't know and I don't think anybody will ever know. But I do recommend it. I think it was a really well done book and it happens during COVID. So she's kind of navigating COVID and raising kids. And they come from a pretty wealthy world. So some people are critical of her complaining about her bad situation because she has privilege, but it's like she's pretty good at about acknowledging it. And we know these stories are devastating no matter your situation. Even if you can financially navigate it, it's like the effect on your kids, the effect on your self worth. It doesn't really matter who you are. It's a good one. And the prenup conversation definitely comes up in wealth and navigating that into worse. I'm glad the mom did this before they got married, before there was an unsigned prenup. You just never know. And this book is one of those where you're like, there was no red flag. There was no red flag. The other thing I want to point out is that I think that we were lucky and that we were able to see what they were doing, even though the curtains created a little bit of a visual block or whatever. Honestly, it's for your, I think it's good there was a little curtain because you didn't need to see all that because he could say, oh, she just came over. We didn't actually do anything. But the fact that I actually got them, he couldn't say, oh, she was just having a hard time and just needed a friend. There was no excuse. There was no excuse. Do you have any update on any of their lives? No social media? Peekin? I know that the business is still thriving. So that's good. Good for the family. Good for the fam. And hey, if that were my mom, and I think she has the right to do it, she would for the rest of my life be like, don't doubt me again. I know what I'm talking about. Mom always knows. It hits your pride when someone says, this is happening. You're like, no, and they prove it, first of all. Sure. Second of all, it's your mom. So it's like, mom told you so again. Mom always knows, but you don't want to admit that. Hey, she dodged a bullet. And I really do think it sounds like 100%. It was too complicated, even without all of the case that you went on. If it's that difficult at the beginning, any lady listening that's in their 20s, that's with their college boyfriend, I'm not saying it's not going to work. I'm just saying that it shouldn't be this hard. It's only going to get harder. Honey, he's just tall. That's all. He's just tall. Exactly. And his cool frat, it's not going to matter that he was in Pike or whatever the fuck, in two years when you're near him. It's not going to matter. No one's going to remember him. They're all going to be selling kitchen sinks next year. He sounds like such a loser. And I hope he and his dispatcher have a mediocre life. Not even bad. I just hope it's boring and gray. Yeah. Nothing fun happens. Wow. Okay, I love it. I love imagining you just out the sunroof like, oh, I'm curious. Has anybody who's listening ever seen a PI in action? Because I never have. No, I'm sure that I have, but I'm sure that I wasn't aware. That's my point is that we probably have seen it many times and just simply don't notice it. Don't realize it. But if you have, because there have been people who have talked to you and you're like, I'm on an investigation and then they get really into it and they're like, you know, I'm helping or Ken, can, Ken, you got some some ladies to help him when they recognized him. That was so cute. We need to bring him back. I'm sure he's got another story. Got it. I love him. Our audience really loves PI. Barbie and Ken. We're going to have to bring him back for sure. That was so fun. Hey, thank you for this amazing story and for sharing your craziness with us. And I'm glad that you got to the bottom of this one and got some closure and the prenup conversation. We haven't really talked about it as much. We haven't. And I have another one too, where I want to talk about prenups, but that's for another day. Oh, boy. Well, if anybody wants to marry me, just know that this will be a conversation because you will find there will be a background check because I'm me. Yeah. This dating detective's empire. It's protected. Hundred percent. And we have an army behind us. It is so funny. Oh, okay. I love you. I love you too. Thank you for listening and we love you guys so much. And as always, trust your mom and femtuitions. Yes, trust your femtuitions and your mom's tuitions.