Hey, Saints Breeze, have you got anything to help me save on my lots dinners this week? Well, we're always matching and lowering prices, so hundreds of Saints Breeze fresh fruit, veg and everyday products are price-matched to Aldi, and every week with nectar you can save money on thousands of the products your family loves. So we can help you plan your dinner and your budget. Saints Breeze, good food for all of us. Selected products, Aldi price match not in an eye. nectar prices require nectar recumb. Terms at Saints Breeze.co.uk, slash Aldi price match and nectar.com slash prices terms. I was coming home one day, it was in the summer, and we had a basement, of course. You know, and the freezer was down there, and I parked my bike on, you know, street level, and I came down the stairs and I saw my mom bent over with a hacksaw trying to take the chain off, and you know, her hair's all long, and her teeth are all broken. I mean, she's her clothes are all ripped and torn. I mean, this is like the woman of a Ganesh Reem, you know, where you see the man coming out of. This is the exact same thing we're looking at here. She is uncapped, she, you know, and I can down stairs, and the only thing I could say was I yelled at her, I went, hey, I yelled at her, and she was all bent over like this, and she just caulked her head to me and looked at me like this, and this is what gets me like just like in the exercise. She caulked her head like to me, and she growled at me. The history of our earth is so different from what we can imagine. Joy to join us. The Smithsonian, and if they found out about large skeleton somewhere, was to go get it. I'm going to assume at least one person is right, because if one person's right, it busts the paradigm. It all goes back to the fallen chair, and the problem with the modern-day church, they had a very truncated view of the supernatural. This backdrop is just pregnant with all kinds of meaty associated with this Mount Herman of the end. And this guy defects from the kingdom. That's a big deal. We're just here in the basement, and we're ready. And today's guest, I'm going to, hopefully I say this right, Michael, gagliardi. That's a, that's a maybe. You have to be Americanized. How do I say it? Geliardi, it's Italian, it's Geliardi. Yeah, I'm just going to leave. We're going to put some accent on that stuff for Gingers. It's not, it's not. There you go. Not a lot of Ginger Italians. Yeah, we don't have the great accent, but you have a crazy story, 12 years surviving with the demonically possessed mother, terrorized the neighborhood, your family, I'm in a small town in the 70s and mid-A's. This is perfect for our setting here in the blurry creature's basement. Welcome to the show. We kick it off here just to have fun. We've been doing this for years. What are your thoughts on Bigfoot, Michael? And then we can get into the beginning of your story. You wrote a book called The Devil Takes the Hindmost, and I'm sure we're going to talk all about that today and start from the beginning of your story. Okay, well, the Bigfoot question. In 1976, a show came out called In Search of Noah's Ark, and that just, that opened up my mind, like, wow, okay, so you're saying this is real. And then right after that came In Search of Bigfoot. And soon as that came out, I went to the library. I got the Bigfoot book, which had the famous patty shot on the front cover, and it was in black and white. And I read that and I went, oh, I know what this is. I know what this is. So I started researching it right back in 1976. I was eight years old. And if you give me five minutes, I can really give you an in-depth detail of what I think this is. Are you ready? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay, well, Jesus said there's only two kingdoms, right? He said, if you're not with me, you're against me. So everything is divided into two kingdoms, the kingdom of darkness and the kingdom of light. Right? And I've studied a lot of ancient manuscripts, and there's two glimpses that are given to us in ancient manuscripts. One of them is the Epic of Gilgamesh. When you look at the look at the character vanquidu, the wild man created by the gods, they send Shumhat to subdue him. Shumhat is a Middle Eastern woman. She's also known as a sacred prostitute. And this is what's really interesting is that her identification is with a word called Harimtu. And that word Harimtu means a woman not under patriarchal authority. So what that means? That's rebellion against God. She's not married. So she has no patriarchal head above her. She's not honoring her father and her mother. So you can see that she's breaking commandments here. Of course, she is the cohort of vanquidu. And I believe that that's a glimpse of where you're getting because he's the wild man, right? And quidu is the wild man, you know? And he lives in the wild. And that's a whole another story when you understand what the wild is because the garden of Eden when God sent the angel and kicked them out of the garden, everything out of the garden was ascribed to Azazel because remember he's the scapegoat. The Israelites were to send the goat with the sins out into the wild to Azazel. So that's Azazel's abode. So we're getting a demarcation here from the garden of Eden and what's outside the garden of Eden. So there's a little glimpse for I'll try to make this really quick. I love it. My ego's prepared. Yeah, it's prepared. Yes, I've been studying this for 30 some years. So the next glimpse we get is from the Greeks, which is really cool. And we get the origin, we get a glimpse of the origin of the chimeric species. So we have Ixion who's King of the Lapids. The Lapids are an equine culture, right? So he has a union with a Nepheli and they produce a blood, a flesh and blood creature called the centaurus. And the centaurus, when he grows up, he roams the foothills of Mount Pelion in Greece. And there are equine area, a Thessaloniki, which today is still equine. He meets with the mayors of the mountain. So the mayors are the wild horses and they produce the centaur race. So here you go, you've got the lineage of how it comes from Nephilim King because King of the Lapids, of course, he's a Nephilim King, right? So he's a first generation mating with God or a priestess. And then they produce a flesh and blood. And then that flesh and blood mates with one of its own kind. And I think this is where we're getting the big foot from because, yes, and I believe that you will find when they get the DNA for a big foot, you'll see that the mitochondrial DNA is going to come from a middle Eastern woman and that the male DNA will be unidentified. They won't be able to tell what it is. So this is why you get with the big foots, you get this, depending on the cross purity, you get big foots that some are black, some are reddish, some are blonde, some have a conical head, some don't have a conical head, some have human features, some have ape-like features, some are a cross between them. You hear different body types from massive to skinny, but long arms and big. So you're getting this cross, this cross purity from muscular frames to skinny, but tall. So you're getting all these different, all these different, and that's what you would get generationally speaking when you cross these species. So that's my answer in a small nutshell. That is probably the most well-prepared, most well-prepared frame. For a non-big foot interview. And according to some ladies, some of them are very beautiful, my friend. Yes. One lady was seduced by bigfoot, and that's another story. And we know some big foot researchers that want to seduce. So dude, that's a great, this is kind of like off of that joke trail, but this is kind of, I think where a lot of this show is gone, right? I mean, you have to have a supernatural aspect to these creatures because there are so many stories that you just can't throw out. Yeah. This sort of go beyond the pale when it comes to this being, you know, a relic ape as the, well, all the classifications and the differences would, would allow us to continue to like, throw out all these new theories because like you said, they're, they come in all shapes and sizes. Right. You know, and we've got a lot of, there's been a lot of practical researchers in this space that are Dr., the late Dr. Jeff Meldrum would just say this is a relic ape, then he's collected 10,000 foot, you know, but he couldn't see the wound. Right. But then you, but see as, you know, as we talk about on the show, Michael, like there is, if one of these wild stories, whether it be Dr., Dr. John Redberg Dover and tracking Bigfoot and footprints disappearing to anything we've done early in the show where people have these sort of woo experiences where you get mind speak or disappears, like really disappears in front of you sort of like, you know, like star track. Why think that beams that gets beamed up and it's gone or it's like predator? The telepathic communication seems to be the most prevalent like woo story. But what we're getting to though is that like, is Genesis 6.4 all flesh was corrupted. It was the Nephilim story, right? And so we've, we've gone down the Chimeraqil path and said, perhaps this is what we're looking at whether it be the mythological creatures of Greece and, and you know, the Chimeraqil creatures of whether the goat man and, yeah, that's the first time we've heard Centaur story with the Bigfoot story. So congratulations. You win the prize. Yes. Well, it's, it's all the same, it's all part of the same kingdom, right? That's why I preface at the beginning that there's only two kingdoms and Jesus is the one that identifies that. There's the kingdom of darkness and there's kingdom of light. There's nothing in between. And, you know, I've done a whole bunch of studies on, you know, the spiritual nature and why the Bigfoot exists too. That's another biblical thing of why it exists. And, you know, we probably don't have time to go into it today. But I've done the research. And the way I've done my research is just like a detective does it. You know, you put everything on a, on a board. And so you can see it all at once. You put all of the characteristics, all of the, the, the stories, the things that you hear. And then you start to cross reference and see how where this is coming from. And that's the real way to do an investigation, just like they used to do in the 50s and 60s. You know, they put a poster of, of, you know, suspect A, suspect A's time, his, his timeline and all this kind of stuff. And then you begin to see the cross references and you get, because there's truth and there's everything else. So there is truth. It is something. And the way to get the closest to it that we can possibly get without having divine intervention is to do that, do that investigation and cross reference everything. And that's when you get the purest, the purest form of what's going on. Because I've heard on your show many times that you guys have said that there's no wrong answers. And I love that. I love that. But there is a true answer on the flip side of that. Yeah. There is truth. And we can know that truth or get close to it where we can make, you know, because the Occam's razor thing, you know, if, if this is what it seems to be, then it must be the closest to that, even though we might be a few degrees off, you know, with, with some of the things, I think we're able to pinpoint what this is and where it comes from. Because the guys that wrote all the ancient texts and stuff like when you look and you read the the Iliad and Homer and Josephus and all this good stuff, you know, they, they stylize that as poetry. But that's the way they, that's the way they interpreted their history. You know, you could go to Greece today and you can talk to people and they said, well, we were taught that his as history. Because it's funny when you look back and you get, when you get beyond like the 15th and 16th century BC, all of a sudden it's not, it's not history anymore. It becomes myth. It's like, it's like really all of a sudden you deemed it myth after a certain period, you know, and it's like what's going on here? We were, we were told that we were presented with that narrative. So that they could dispel the truth of the past. I love that. I think that I've two sent our questions for you. Just their opinion, of course, because we're looking for better answers, Michael. But, um, do you think there's any centaurs that are horse on top and human on the bottom as opposed to what we normally see? That's a great question. If we go by the ancient writings and I've studied all them, we see that and I have some in my notes here. Some of them were described. There was a, eyewitness accounts that some had the front legs of a man. Right. Some of them had long mains. Some of them had short mains. You know, so they're once again like with the big foot, there's a lot of similarity, a lot of differences. So you're going to get, like I said, the generational purity of the crossbreeding, you're going to get different, different ones. But one, one thing that remained through all of the ones that were witness is that they were all carnivores. That's wild. It's the horse that a horse man that eats meat. You got to wonder like, if he's going to wear pants, that's the other question. What set a leg do you put the pants on? If you're a sense of, Michael, I love it. This is, you're, I mean, your story, I want to get to your story because this is, you wrote a book, Devil will take the hindmost to the harrowing true story of Canada's worst demonic possession case in history. You had 12 years of living or I witness to a, to an end dwelling to a demonic end dwelling. Terrorize your family, neighbors, small town on terror, Canada. And would love for you to start and tell your story written a couple books about this experience. This is your story. You growing up. Where do you want to start us with with the story? Well, I can always say that it started in 1971. I was three. And that's where I had the biggest, the beginning of something was wrong. You know, growing up as an Italian kid, we had this, this soup that we had for lunch called pastina. And my mother would make it and she, you know, bring it to the table and then call me to the table. Well, this one time, she called me to the table, but it wasn't on the table. And she came up behind me and she dumped the pot of scolting hot soup on my shoulder, all down my shoulder. And of course, I was, you know, screaming. And she took me to the, she got a taxi and she took me to the, to the doctors. And the whole way there, the whole way there, I can remember, you know, crying and screaming. She never touched me, never comforted me, never did anything like that. We got to the doctors. I don't remember the doctors appointment, but I remember coming home, coming home, she never nurtured me, never, never touched me, never did anything. She never did anyway. And from that point, I was, I was very wide eyed to her. That was the beginning that something, something was wrong. 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