Bun B On Marriage, Manhood & Love: What It Really Means To Be A Protector

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And listen on iHeart radio stations across America and the free iHeart app. When I found this woman, I was at the bottom. I had nothing to offer this woman. And this woman took me in. Well. And it's my duty to take care of her. I don't see any other duty. I start there and then everything else. If I can make sure that's intact, we can get through anything else like those. We've done it already. Thanks for watching, guys. Today's episode is brought to you by Boost Mobile. One half of UGK, the duo that defined the soulful blues driven sound of Southern rap and put Texas on the map in a whole new way. And he's built the wildly successful Trill Burgers brand. He is a pillar of Southern culture and artists and educator and entrepreneur, a devoted husband, a father who's carrying his Texas pride into every chapter of his life. Yes. He is the incredible Bumpy and he is my guest. Thank you so much. And what's up, man? I'm good. I'm good. It is an honor to be interviewed by the media queen. Oh, that's very sweet of you. You have an interesting life, man. And we've had interviews over the years, but I feel like it was album-mold. It was always promo driven. Yeah. I don't feel like we have ever had a moment to like, I don't know, to dig a little bit. Let's do it. We got today. Today we should dig because your life is, man, the chapters of your life are so interesting. You seem to be thriving and well. Like, are you happy and... I'm very happy. You are. I am because a lot of what I had to do in the past was out of necessity. This is the part of my life where I actually get to plan things out, you know what I'm saying? And live a life by design. I was just kind of going with the flow for many years and we would have to move a certain way just to survive certain situations. And now it's like, I get the house with the picket fence. I got the wife, the kids. I got the grandkids. I got six grandkids now. Let's take them back. Let's go back a little bit to... Let's do it. ...early, early inception of just the moment when you thought, okay, I might, this might take me somewhere. Yeah. I remember when we, when we really started first single, we were part of a radio contest in Houston that they had for independent artists. But who were you at this time? Fresh out of high school, working in the store in the flea market, the record store in the flea market, that the guy who signed us, oh, very broke. And just trying to make it happen. But I'll be honest, Angie, I didn't feel like a rapper until we got that call from the label to come to New York and sign a deal. But even when that happened, my relief turned into despair within like five minutes of signing my deal. Like we go up to Drive Records, we sit down, they pull out the 70 page contract. They show you seven yellow tabs you signed on that. You don't know what the other 60 plus pages got. Isn't that crazy? And, but we're thinking we made it because here's the thing, right? The way they entitled you is that they put the check on the table. So you're looking at the check in the envelope the whole time. So you're like, I just want to get that. Let me hurry up and sign it and then show that. Wow, it's dirty. That's dirty. That's dirty work. And then we come out to celebrate. We see Karris one walking down the hallway in the record company. We're like, yo, what's up, Karris? He's like, what's good? What are you with y'all? Like we're Underground Kings. We're from Houston. We came up here to sign with Jive. He was like, did you sign yet? And I was like, yeah, he's like, damn, well, good luck. And in that moment, we realized we went from thinking we had reached the high. You had won, yeah. Yeah. And realized like we might have done the worst thing we'd ever done. And part of that was true. We had to fight that contract we signed in 1992, all the way up until 2006. We were doing revisions, amendments and all of that. It's crazy to people probably now, especially young people in the business. They owe people like you so much because all the mistakes everybody made, even about business. When we were young coming up, people didn't even, we didn't, this was a new business. So nobody even knew how to navigate the waters. I didn't even know what my publishing was like realistically until about maybe signing in 1992, probably finding out in like maybe early 2002. So a lot of my career was not really about any financial success because we never got a check from that record company. No, never about financial stuff. It was about surviving everything that they put in front of us. And hoping that eventually once we got past all of that bullshit, we would be a profitable group. The people took care of us for many years. We would tour a lot. We would tour a lot because that's where pretty much our revenue was coming from. If it wasn't coming from that, we'd have to do other side things to bring money in. And we were trying to get away from as much of that as possible. So we eventually got to where we wanted to, but pimp passed shortly after. So I felt like he achieved everything he wanted to achieve, but he never got to really enjoy it. But keep in mind, I don't know many people that lived like he lived. Like pimp died respectfully at a young age for a human being. He wasn't very old. He was in his 30s. Oh, still 30s. But I would argue that the life pimp see lived in that short time, I could live twice as long as that and probably not have a full, yeah, no, not at all. The audacity that that man had for everything. And I say audacity in a great way because there were a lot of things that we achieved only because we didn't believe that what people told us about not being able to achieve because we were from a very small town. So to believe that he could come out of that kind of environment and actually become impactful and successful in the music industry at that time was really unheard of. But this dude, I didn't think we could do it, but I believe he could do it. So I put my belief in him. He believed that I could be impactful in helping him get from A to B. And there was a lot of us around at the time, but at the end of the day, it ended up being just me and him. And it took a while and we went through a lot of shit to get there, but we eventually got where we wanted to go. I know that you credit to pimp for like letting you see that your wife was the person for you. Absolutely. He was I didn't, I didn't pimp and I were different people. We lived different lives. Pimp loved the attention of women. I'm not saying I didn't, but I really wanted to be who I needed to be for her. And pimp always loved that I put my wife first. You know what I'm saying? I would always show everywhere we go to this day, typically where I perform my wife's there. You know what I'm saying? We've been doing that basically since we've been together before we got married because I don't I don't like being away from her like right now. My wife is looking for things and I'm not home. She called looking for the keys. Yeah, yeah, you know. Yeah, well, you talked about that moment of big pimp and you know, you come from that lifestyle. I just wonder what that pivot is like. Was it her who made that pivot in you or would you as a man making that pivot of like wanting something else in your life? No, and it's all these things come from my wife. I'm very like focused. I have tunnel vision. So I really only see what's directly in front of me. My wife, that's why I bring my wife everywhere because my wife understands nuance. My wife understands how to read a room. So I may go on a meeting to meet with two people, but there's six people in the room. So while I'm talking to the two, I came to engage with my wife is watching the body language of other people in the room. My wife recommends artists to collaborate with artists to perform with all of these types of things. And I give her that space to do that because I'm very logic minded, like two plus two has equal four, right? She's common sense kind of a thing. She's like, you can't do that because that's just you can't do that like that. You guys are like an old school couple. We really, really are. And it works. There's a lot of times where I have to sit back, be quiet, take her advice. Because in certain situations, she's more informed than I am. You know what I'm saying? But that doesn't make me any less of the man in the house. I'm still allowed to be the man. But every now and then, my wife will encourage me. My wife will give me advice on my wife will see a situation clearer than I can. You know what I'm saying? And it took me a while as a self made man to allow other people to have a say in what I do. Right? And I was like, okay, well, let's try your way. I remember the first time I heard, let's try your way. Are you dating at the time or is she your wife? No, she was the wife. She's already your wife and you're still testing her. Yeah. Yeah. I was just like, I just don't, I didn't understand what her perspective was came from. And she's like, I'm a consumer. I'm a woman. We're the ones that buy all the music. We're the ones that decide what's a hit record. You haven't done a song about this. You haven't worked with this person. It's not going to be what people expect from you. I have to be, because I always want to push the ledge, right? I want to try something different and go further. She's like, no, you stay right here where you are. Yeah. Be comfortable right here and give these people what you've always given them. Don't overthink it. 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Because a big key of this podcast, I try to like, we talk to people about their lives and I try to give people lessons that they could use in their own lives. So when hearing you and hearing the way that you found the partner, created a life with her, trust her to make decisions in your career, what do you think it was about either your decision making or her decision making that allowed you to kind of form this type of partnership? You know how they talk about girls mature, faster than boys? That definitely exists in my relationship. I was still very young minded in a lot of things and my approach was my way or no way for a while. Did she let you get away with that? She would make it known that she didn't agree with certain things, but if that's how I felt I had to deal with it, she let me do that. But after a while, it was just like, look, I don't think you need to do this this way. I really think you should do it. Try something a little different. It's not going to hurt you. And I was like, all right, I'll give it a shot and it worked. Then I was like, okay, what else you think? You know, she would give me advice and inform me about certain things as I progressed. And everything led itself to better in our situation because there were things that she was taking into consideration in certain times that I really didn't think it through in that way. In business and work and stuff. Absolutely. And she was right. She was right. I always said that if I'm wrong and she's right, it works a lot easier in my house than if she's wrong and I'm right. You know what I'm saying? We don't like to be wrong. It's a lot easier for me to just try it her way. And if not, we can go back to my way. But eight times out of 10, her way is actually going to work. So I just stopped fighting against it. And I was like, what do you think? What do you think? How do you think we should do it? She'd give us some thought. She'd give her input. And we'd give it a shot and it would work. It would really work. My wife's been... This is great advice for men to take. Just do what your wife wants to do at the end of the day. It's a lot easier to maintain that stuff. So I've been really blessed with a great partner to go through life with. I couldn't imagine going through this life that I've lived without her. And I hope I never have to. Yeah. What have you had to change about yourself to be that type of husband to her? Be quiet. Quiet. I had to be quiet. I had to literally just shut up, let the woman say what she said, get her full thought out, and at least take it into consideration. Because in the middle of her telling me what she would think I should do, I would start arguing. I just don't general principle because for many years I felt like you're not a rapper. You're not... You don't do these things. You don't understand this. And then she would be like, yeah, but you know what? We went to this meeting, you was talking to this dude. Every time you said something, this guy would tap that guy and write something down. And you're not seeing none of that because you're tunnel vision. You're looking only at the people you need to look at. I'm looking at everybody else's body language. Wow. And that was something I... You're like, I love her. I didn't know that was something you could do. I thought your attention should be focused on who you're talking to and all of that. But it's been surprising the kind of things that she's been able to pick up in these rooms. Amazing. And we've been able to utilize in these negotiations to further where we're trying to go. She's been a God sent to me. My wife has really been a God sent to me. You know what I'm saying? I try to make sure that I'm living up to my part of the deal because she's locked in. She's where she needs to be. Anytime I need her input on anything, she's exactly where she needs to be for that. So I'm trying to make sure that I'm where I need to be for her as much as possible. And you said that the key to that is mostly shutting up. Just shutting up and listening. Quite frankly, doing most of what she tells me to do. And it typically works out. Is this advice you'd give like young men? Young married men. Yes, I would. But it depends on what they're marrying for because people nowadays marry for different things. Okay. You tell me about that. Well, I mean, most people are looking for women that everyone wants. They're on social media that are looking at how many follows, likes and all of that. And they want to be with a woman that everybody wants. But what is that about? I think it works both ways. I think men, women want to be with a man that women want because he's a provider. He's a good looker. He's got all of these things. Same thing with men. Men want a woman that everybody wants to be with. But the reality about those things is that everyone has a ceiling. And if they're looking for a certain thing from someone, once you hit your ceiling and you're not what they want, they're going to continue to move on. And we have a lot of, I will say this, I will say this in the entertainment culture. We have a lot of people that want what they believe other people have. So you'll have a dude that's looking at this girl that gets flown everywhere and she gets purses and she gets dressed and all this type of stuff and all these things. And you're like, I want a woman like that. I want a woman, but you got to be able to afford a woman like that. You got to be able to pay for those things like that. And you don't know if that's what she wants. She may want more than that. Most women want to be provided for, but they also want to be provided for by a man that they want to be with. Right? Some people don't need that necessarily. I just need what they can afford to give me. That's men and women. I'm not picking either side. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So you got to be very clear about what the fuck you want before you get out here, choose them other fucks. That becomes a problem. Because then you'll just be like, well, I want to be at the same level of fame that this guy has. He's fucking her. I should be at least fucking her or somebody close to her. And the same thing for women, women like I want a certain quality of life. His dude looks like he tricks off and buys all these purses and takes women everywhere. I want that life too. You know what I'm saying? But there are things that come with that. You know what I'm saying? I was very lucky that I found somebody that wanted what I wanted without compromising each other. Hey guys, today's show is brought to you by Hard Rock Bet. 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Like if we're not enough to get where we're trying to go, then we're going to have to wait. We're going to have to wait, figure it out and try another path. What was the thing you wanted? I wanted the White House with the picket fence outside. You know what I'm saying? I wanted security. Like all my money, I didn't make any money from the record company. Jive Records still to this day has never paid us more than in advance for the next project. Right. Well, but it was about making sure that my family could consistently have what they needed. Let's go. Our iHeartRadio Music Awards are coming back Thursday, March 26th live on Fox. Watch as we honor the biggest stars from all genres of music that you loved listening to all year long on your favorite iHeart radio station and the iHeart radio app. Hosted by Budakriss. Icon award recipient John Mellencamp. 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Then my wife would offer some advice. Like maybe we should instead of focusing on it, I know you think that's probably what's going to cash out, but I don't. I think you should try this. It will take a little longer, but this little money is guaranteed and we can work with it and build it up to something else. You got to be open to that. Like wife has to be open to her husband's dreams and the husband has to be open to his wife dreams or else you're going to have a problem in the house. Yeah, and then how can you have a future if you're you're going to be stuck in that moment chasing whatever the short-term goals are? Now, my thing is if I don't think it's for you, I can voice that. I can express that. If it's something that you still think you want to do, then I have to look at how could this potentially compromise the family. This is how my wife would look at what I want to do and advice versa. You really like a partnership. It's really a partnership. It really is. Marriage is a partnership. There's no, a successful marriage doesn't run one way. It has to go two ways. You know what I'm saying? You have to be there for them. They have to be there for you. You have to be willing to hear them tell you you're wrong and vice versa and then not go want to sleep on the sofa or anything like that. We don't do that. Like we don't go to bed. Are you going to bed angry? No, no. We don't do that. We got to talk this shit out and sometimes we're up very late talking this stuff out. So that's like a rule you have? Yeah, because if you go to sleep with it, you wake up with it. You automatically on the wrong side of the bed, you're not open to things the next day. In my opinion, at least go to bed agreeing to disagree. Try not to be mad and be like, well, I just can't see it today. Let's try another day. I've heard that rule. I didn't know anybody that actually has applies it all the time. Well, again, all the time it don't work because we're human beings. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And sometimes somebody's like, no, it's got to be like this. And sometimes you just got to let that sit. Like if you're arguing bad on a Monday, we'll come back to it on Thursday. You know what I'm saying? We don't need to wake up, focus, concentrating on that unless it's something super pertinent. Let's let that shit breathe. Let that bitch breathe for a little while. You calm down, I calm down, you might come to some realization or I may come to some realization. But typically, no, we need to address this shit. Now we need to talk about my wife. When my wife has issue with me, my wife doesn't talk to me about it until it's bedtime. Like as soon as I get in bed and get comfortable or whatever. That's what she like so about today. And then and that's where we are. You know what I'm saying? Because it's something that she doesn't want to go to bed thinking about or worrying over. She wants to put it to bed. Literally. Literally put it to bed. I love that. 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And I'm realizing something is very wrong because my wife is scared. And my wife does not live a life of fear. I protect my wife. No, she's going to be protected. So she doesn't walk around with that. She doesn't use that tone in her voice. So I could hear her hear her saying, just take the car, just take the car. And I'm like, my car is paid for. I didn't have somebody in my house. Now, for years, for years, I had been waiting for someone. I knew it because of my life, the way I move and where I'm at in the community. I felt like somebody at some point might try it. And it wasn't until that day where it actually happened. And so I ran out the bathroom. I went out and got my gun. But what I didn't know during that moment, that whole time was my wife was trying to stall him out so I could get to the gun to come down and protect her. And the gun was put, the gun was literally on her forehead. Like the muzzle was on her forehead that whole time. And her rationale in that moment was, if I die, I know one, you're going to kill him. And then two, you're going to make sure this family is okay. And so she had to come to terms with dying in that moment and what this family would be after that. But she was secured, for her telling me, she was secured in knowing that one, I was definitely going to come down and do something in that moment. She knows that's going to happen regardless. But should something happen to her before I can get there to save her, at least she knows her husband will take care of this family. How does she know that? Like what is, I mean, I guess just the history that you guys have. Yeah, no, we like you being a protector. Yes, absolutely. We've had that before, you know, not at the home, but we've had incidents before where I've had to stand in and be like, you know, what does that mean to you as a man? Because it's top. It's top. Provision is number one for sure. Like providing for your family is number one. Now, everybody's not going to provide the same way, right? Some people are working class, some people have other employment that will force them more money. But at the very least, they should have a roof over their head and the bills, the lights, the water, all that shit should be taken care of. That's provision. Protection, there is no, it's 100% all day, every day at your worst, whatever it is, it's 100%. And I'm the one that's supposed to stand in front of the gun. Right? That's the job I took is to stand any threat to my family. I have to see it and meet it first. That's the way I've tried to live this life. And the fact that she had to meet that threat first, but had already come to terms with the worst case scenario of that situation and found strength in the idea that her husband would do what a husband should do in that moment. But she also said that she felt like a glow around her. In that moment to her like, this is going to be okay one way or another. That she's protected. Yes. Wow. I can't imagine that moment for you, that fear, because it's just fear of what's happening. But then it's also, I don't want to say burden, the responsibility of being the provider and the protector. I was prepared for all of that. None of that was a problem. My only issue was, can I get to her before something happens to her? That's all I cared about. Can I get to her in time? Because I'm coming. Because the guy was like, who was that upstairs? She's like, that's my husband. She was like, you better tell him if you come down to her, I'm going to kill you. You know what I'm saying? And she's like, Bunt, don't come downstairs. I'm coming. Her fear was that we'd get into a shootout where she's in the middle, I'm upstairs, he's downstairs and she gets hit in a situation. When she started telling him, don't come downstairs, she said, she said, Bunt, don't come. He told her to tell him don't come. She said, Bunt, don't come downstairs. When she called, when she said Bunt, because he had a mask on the whole time, she said his eyes got big because there's only one Bunt, right? So he realized where he was in that moment. And so he started asking for the keys to the car, give me the keys to the car. So he went out, she'd let the door up and then she would put it back down, right? And she did that twice and he said, put that mother, he pointed the gun at her again, he's like, put that mother fuck up and leave. And so by this time, Why was she doing that? To try to stall him out so I could get to him. The whole time she's like, Smurfucker came in our house. I know what he's going to get. I want him to get to this man. So by that time she was coming back in the house, I was coming down the stairs and she's like, don't go outside. He's got a gun. Don't go outside. I'm like, I'm finna go outside. I'm going to meet this guy where he is and the confrontation happened in the garage. Shot him in the, well, shot into the car because he was in the car, but he couldn't figure out how to start it because I had just bought her like a new Audi and the newer Audi's the ignition is, the gear shift is here and the ignition is to the right. So he's all up here looking how to start. So he never got the car started. So when I got in the garage, he was still in the car. So I put five shots in the car I started walking to it to see if I hit him. I heard a pop. I realized that's him shooting back at me. I put five more in the car. I put five more shots in the car. He jumped out the car and said, please don't kill me. Now on my way down the stairs, I cocked the gun to make sure it was loaded that took one shell out. So the 11 shots that I put in the car, the 12th bullet was the one that I copped out. So when I put the gun in his head, it didn't go off. There was no bullets left. You were prepared to do that? No, I was, I have to say, yeah, I don't, I didn't want to have to kill anybody, but nobody's going to kill us. You know what I'm saying? And you had already done far worse than anything anyone had ever done to my wife at that point. So I really wanted to do something to that man, but I couldn't, I couldn't kill him. So I hit him a couple of times with the pistol. I believe his nose broke. And then my wife, because she heard the gunshots and my wife came in screaming and I looked back at her and he, he burned, he jumped out and jumped up and ran off. Now I'm half naked because I was in the bathroom. So I'm windy to poo. I'm like top on, I'm bottomless at this point. So I ran back in the house. My gun was empty. I got her gun, put on some pants, got in the car. Where I live, there's only one way to go when you leave. You can either go out this way, turn right or turn left. He's on foot. So I go, I turn, I turn right. He's not there. I turn left. I can see him running on the street. So I go down there. My first mind is to run him over, like just kill him right there. When you tell that story, does it take you, does it take you right back there? Is it like hard to talk about? Not at all. Really? Not at all. Not for me. For my wife, it's excruciating for her to talk about it and deal with it because quite frankly, she dealt with the majority of the threat. And my wife had been dealing with a level of anxiety for a while and we had just gotten rid of it. Like no medication, everything. She had just gotten back. What she needed to be, I should say. And this not only knocked her back, it knocked her back further. So we were literally- But she was dealing with some anxiety before the incident. Yes. So not only did we go back to where we had to start with her initial anxiety, now there's this on top of it. So it pushed her back further than she had ever been. How could it not? For that type of thing. So it took a while for her to work herself through that and get out of it in the right way. Because we tend to just go to church and smoke a cigarette and we'll be fine type of thing. But this took a little bit more hard work for her. And I'm glad she did the work. I supported her through it. And we're just starting to get to a place where the anxiety isn't as big of a situation as it was before. And she, for all intents and purposes, she's the wife I've always known. No. She wasn't for a while and that took some time for us to deal with it. But we had to give her a grace to work through that. Was that fear? She was sitting in fear or trauma? It was very hard for her. I'll tell you this. When it happened at night time, well, let's say it happened in the late afternoon. It went into night time and we slept in that house that night. But she was still obviously in the state of shock from the whole thing because the next morning when she woke up and because we lived in a three-story townhouse at that time, we slept on the third floor. And so she went to the kitchen, which is on the second floor, to get something. Then she realized she needed something from the first floor. And once she went and looked at that stairway and saw the bottom of those stairs, it was an immediate trigger. It was a trigger. And literally she came back upstairs. She was very, very upset about it. And I realized in that moment, we got to move. Now, we had our townhouse, which is for our home, and we had another apartment, like closer in the city. So we just moved into that apartment. We had to literally walk her out with her eyes covered because she couldn't look at that stairwell anymore. And her mom and I did most of the packing and everything for her. Again, we moved into the new space. We had to find a completely new home after that. And it just took her a while to get out of it. So we found a house with a nice big park across the street. So we could go out, take walks and just enjoy. But what about you as a husband? So you're the protector in that moment. But then it isn't just that moment. It's like you have to also protect her through the trauma that came after. So how do you do that? How do you support your wife or your partner in a time of what she's dealing with? You don't leave unless you have to. Because you can't get it. There's no gun. There's no gun. There's no level of anything that can take her out of that initial moment. And the things that someone that goes through your mind when you think you're about to die of a violent death. There's a lot of things that she had to work her way through. And so I just wanted to give her her space. That was a bang thing. Because there were going to be certain moments that I couldn't console her through these things. All I could do was maybe hold her hand or something. But we had a back porch with a big backyard. So she spent a lot of time out there just trying to process this type of stuff. But we got her the help that she needed to get through it. And then as soon as we get through it and get into house, COVID comes. And now we're stuck inside. But my wife and I have such a great relationship that we didn't really care about being around anybody else. We didn't like the fact that our family couldn't come and see us. Because my son and his wife had a baby during COVID. And they both caught COVID in the hospital. So we had to go and get the baby from a newborn for like the first two weeks. Wow. Oh my gosh. And I think that moment really reprioritized everything in the way that you don't continue to think about yourself. You think about the children. You know what I'm saying? Like for us, it was about making sure that doesn't happen again. Making sure we're protected, getting her gun lessons and different things like that. But when the baby came, we realized that it's not about us right now. We've got to protect this baby because we have been so concerned about protecting ourselves. And now we have to protect this baby from an invisible threat catching COVID. And so it took two weeks for the parents to get clean and clear and we could bring the baby back. But it also reminded us of having this little baby that we're responsible for and we're completely prepared. Isn't it crazy how God gives you what you need? Even if it just seems weird and left. That baby changed everything. I will say that baby. She's my youngest grandchild, Zoe. And she changed everything for us. God bless. That's amazing. I wonder, I don't know how to frame this question. It's like, I find that men in relationships sometimes, the provider, the protector is the easier thing for men to, it's easier to like, okay, this is what I gotta do. I gotta make the money. I gotta do this. I gotta, the emotional part of the support, I think is challenging for some men. I don't think enough men talk about the pressure they find themselves under once they take on a family. The idea of providing the essentials is one thing, but then kids get sick, cars get in wrecks. Parents, need help. Life gets in the way is what I like to say. Life will eventually get in the way. Even if you have the majority of this thing kind of figured out, life will still get in the way. And it's these other factors that come into play that really define how your house holds together. Because I can go out and try to find a job that will pay all of the bills, take care of the car, if she wants something, if we need to go somewhere, do that. But there's things that money doesn't really give you an out for, you know what I'm saying? And then we just have to kind of band together as a unit to get through it. Because if you're a billionaire, and you're on the highway, and you have a flat tire, if you're not, if you're like, I'll tell you a story. I do this thing called Gunball 3000 every year. Oh, you do Gunball? That's the car thing. Eve's husband. Eve's husband. I did their marriage. I married them. You married them. I had her on the pod. She's so happy. They fell in love. We got to get back to the Gunball story, but tell me that. Well, the Gunball references, we were driving from LA to Vegas. And that year, Lance Hamilton, the racer, the F1 racer was there. He was in a very expensive car. And these Bugatti's and these Pugatti's and all of these supercars, they operate almost like an airplane engine in the way that, if I was told that if you get into Bugatti with a full tank, and you put foot all the way down, your car will be on E in like 10 minutes. Wow. And so this guy was out in the middle of the open and thought he'd open it up and ran out of gas, where him being Lewis Hamilton, I said Lance, I'm sorry, Lewis Hamilton, doesn't help him. His money doesn't help him. He needs a friend. He needs someone, a person to come and stop and help him. And someone did. It doesn't matter, right? Yeah. No, at that point, it doesn't matter. I don't care who comes. I just need help. So wait, I'm all over the place, but did you go to Gunball regularly? Yeah, this is my first year and I've been doing it in several years, but I've done, I started in 2010 and I've probably done it 12 times. Oh, the wedding though. Tell me about that. We had Eve on the pod. She seems really happy. She's very happy. Could you tell that in that moment of bringing two people together? I knew before. And how was that your job? How did that even happen? So we, even I started doing the rally, the Gunball 3000 rally, the same year. Got it. She didn't know anyone. I didn't know anyone, but we, and we had never met but we were familiar with who we, who we each other were. Of course. So we were like, I don't know what's going to happen. We're going to stay close. You're my friend. Yes. So at the same time, the guy that owns Gunball was going through a divorce during that race. And I remember the first night, because he always escorts the talent, like whoever's performing, whoever's a celebrity, he escorts them to the parties. That night he escorted everybody, including Eve. The second night, he only brought Eve. And then the third night, you could just see something was happening with these people after the rally. And I don't want to tell all their business, but after the rally, he invited her for a date to come to London to meet him and go on a date. And she went and she never left. She never left. I love that. He loves every single part of her. And I'll tell you how much I, when I knew he loved her, he called me one day. This is before he asked me to do the wedding. He called me, said, Bun, I've got a problem. I said, talk to him. He was like, I touched Eve's hair last night and she was not excited about that. He's like, he's like, is that a thing? I said, that is absolutely a thing. Yes. Like black woman's hair. Once it's done, you leave it. You leave it. You don't touch it. You don't caress it. You don't run your fingers through it. It's not that kind of a situation. And he was like, good to know, good to know. But he wanted to make sure that he wasn't doing anything that would mess this up. He really, really wanted to do this. Right. And then I remember we were in, this is the same time we were in Las Vegas. He called. He says, Bun, I need you to go somewhere with me. Can you come with me? I was like, yeah, sure. Let's go. And so we get in the cab and I'm like, where are we going? And he's like, we're just taking a ride. I was like, so even I getting married, he says, I propose she accepted. We're getting married. But the wedding, the actual ceremony, the wedding has to be done legally in London or it won't be recognized. He says, but I want to marry her at the end of the rally in Ibiza. He says, and so we put, so the legal one is the one we're doing at home. So this one is more like ceremonial kind of a thing. He says, so we were like, who should marry us? So I wrote a list of names and she wrote a list of names and you're the only name that was on both lists. Oh, that's amazing. And they were like, we're going to do it next year on the next rally. And we would love for you to do the wedding. I had to get ordained. So you got ordained for the service. I got ordained for, even though it didn't mean anything, right? Because legally it wouldn't even be recognized back home. But I wanted to do. Took it seriously. I took it very seriously. I bought clothes that I would never wear before. I bought like this linen, this very long linen set. I didn't want to put on a suit because it was a very relaxed ceremony. So I dressed what I thought a pastor would wear at a beach wedding, right? Kind of a thing. And we had paparazzi on boats shooting from the ocean. It was, it was amazing. But they were only at the wedding, maybe 15 people. It was his children and her family, her grandmother came and her grandmother had never been on a plane before and they flew her all the way to Ibiza. It's just amazing. It was a beautiful ceremony. His children got up and they were talking about how happy they were that their dad was happy and have her. And she braided their, they never had their hair braided. She braided their hair and played with it in their room with the dolls and everything. And they love her. They call her mom. Hey there. This is Josh from Stuff You Should Know with a message that could change your life. The Stuff You Should Know ThinkSpring podcast playlist is available now. 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Watch live on Fox Thursday, March 26th, Eddie, 7th Central. And listen on iHeart radio stations across America and the free iHeart app. Why do you think they wanted you to do it? What was the connection? I don't know. I think I was the only one that they were, like a lot of people do the rally, right? A lot of people pay to do the rally. But certain people he likes to have on the rally because he actually likes them as friends. Like they're actually friends when they're not rallying. And so I became one of those people and I mean, I just know one else that he would know more on the rally than me. And as far as getting married on the rally, that least common denominator between them was me. There you are. And I was, I couldn't believe, I couldn't believe they'd say that. What an honor, huh? It really, it really was to marry them because I knew these people were in love. I wanted to be a part of this marriage, you know what I'm saying? So them asking me to do it cemented my place in their family. And I just, I love how they love on each other. I love how when she's got concerts, he goes, when he's got business, she goes. Like they are inseparable as much as they possibly can be. The only time I ever saw them separate was when their child was born. And for the first year, they didn't think it was okay for the wife, for the baby to come on the rally because it's, it's a lot to do this round. But from two on up, he's been there. He's from two on up. He's been there. Oh, he's adorable. He's so cute. Oh, you should see how he's, he has a big brother at Cash and Cash loves, because everyone else is girls. So it's Cash and three other girls for years. And now he has a brother and he loves being a big brother. I love, he lives in New York now too. He actually goes to NYU. You are so invested in this family. I am. So cute. I do because I feel like I'm a part of it. I feel like I'm a part of bringing this family together. Yeah. But I love to watch them in real time. Like at home online, I see him and her and the boy and maybe the girls are for the holidays, they all go out to the family. The family has a nice house in the English countryside. They'll go out there and see the parents. And I just love being a part of bringing these two worlds together in a very genuine and authentic way. Because these people separately had everything they needed in life except a partner. And now they, they both found their partner and now they're building this family together. I love it for you. You are really like, you believe in love, huh? Like, yeah, no, I know what love can do to a person. I know what a lack of love can do to a person as well. So I'm always for love. Like just go for it. Try it. You know what I'm saying? See if it works because a relationship built around love is so fulfilling and it's so satisfying. Because when you don't have everything else that the world says you should have, if you have a person that loves you and that you love back, you can build anything from that. I've seen it. I've seen it. No wonder they wanted you to do the ceremony. I do believe in love, though. I do believe in love because I've been in relationships where I thought I was in love and I realized I wasn't. I've been in relationships where I thought people loved me and they didn't. But when I found this woman, I was at the bottom. I had nothing to offer this woman. And this woman took me in. And it's my duty to take care of. I don't see any other duty. I start there and then everything else, if I can make sure that's intact, we can get through anything else life throws at us. We've done it already. We love how you believe in love. Everybody believes in love, but people get it wrong. You have to be in love with the worst of a person. You have to be willing to see a person at their worst and be like, dang, man, that's even worse than that. I've seen worse than that. You know what I'm saying? Me and my wife do not get along all the time. And most of our arguments are in tone. If she thinks I talk louder than I should have, that in itself will become a problem. Watch. Are you talking to me? Yeah. In vice versa. Like, why can't you really believe you needed to tell me that? That way? Kind of a thing. But in spite of that, in spite of seeing me at my worst, my wife still loves me. And I still love her in spite of everything. That's beautiful. You know what I'm saying? Obviously, she's had a lot more to deal with me than me with her. But yeah, love is the only thing that gets us through everything that we've been through, as a family. It's the single most important thing. Message. I feel like that's a thing. Like, we're going to need that as a thing. But you got to work to that, though. Like, you don't meet someone and fall in love and immediately get rid of all your bad habits. You've got to constantly work at yourself to make sure that those things don't consistently come up in the relationship. Because it'll drive a wedge, especially if it's something that you can work on, but just choose not to. That's going to be a problem. And when your partner has something that they need to work on, once they start working on it, give them encouragement. Keep them lifted up. You know what I'm saying? Work with them. If somebody needs to get in shape, if one person is in shape and the other one is in shape, we still both got to go to the gym. We still both got to go to the gym. It's a real partnership. Absolutely. Yeah, because... You're like one of those old school, like, grandparent couples. All of this seems like wisdom. This is just from fucking up a lot as a younger man. And growing up and living through these experiences and bettering myself because of these things. That's where I'm at now. All right. Listen, love is going to be the theme of this conversation, but we do have to talk about some of the quickly, the reinventions and the evolutions. What's happening? Well, we'll get to Black Cowboy, too, which I want to talk to you about that, too, but also just Trill Burger. First of all, I feel like every cool golf event that I go to, there is a Trill Burger spot. And every time I get to it, I don't get one because they're gone. I feel like I don't know. It's like a hot commodity in every tournament. We try to bring every tournament or any event we do enough food. We try to bring enough food. But every event that we do, we were going to be like, okay, who's golfing? How many people are golfing? And we try to set aside two burgers for each golfer. I need one side for me. But it's just been beautiful to try to chase this thing. I got to find myself constantly chasing this thing. And the reason I chase it is because it keeps growing. It's getting very hard for us to keep our hands wrapped around this thing because it's dying to grow. It is dying to grow and being in more cities and more communities and have more customers come in. But we have to keep it manageable for us. I get approached every week with people wanting to buy franchise. I've been offered millions of dollars several times just to be a part. We're not selling, but just to be a part of this company. When I do the golf tournaments, like CaliT, most of the people will be like, man, this is a good burger. This is a really good burger. I really like this burger. But those golfers that are also entrepreneurs and businessmen, they'll be like, you got something. Like you got something. Are y'all taking any investment right now? Are y'all taking any partners? Not right now? I'm not saying we won't eventually, but right now it's manageable. And right now we're scaling at a pace that we can control. Congratulations. Close. But it takes everything just to keep it contained. But we're at a space now where we think we can control this for a while. We're about to have our third and fourth door within the next three months. And then next year, we're going to slow down and work on the culture of the restaurants because we've expanded so quickly that we've just had to have warm bodies that can cook. But now we're not just one store. We're not two stores. We're four stores. We're going to need to we have a regional manager, but we're going to need people that can lock in on locations and just be your that guy for that door. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? This is the challenges of any growing business, I think, right? Right. How does a man with this level of business and this level of family and this level of just everything that you have to do, find time to do a high horse? How don't you even? High horse worked out because I was already in the Black Rodeo space. I'd been performing at the Houston Livestock Show in Rodeo in Houston for the past four years. It's a 21 day event that gets over, I would say, 2.2 million people through those 21 days. Every night has a concert in the football stadium. But the doc's not about that. No, no, no. That's your entry point. Yes, absolutely. So me being involved with this rodeo from the Black Heritage perspective has given me a totally different view. One of what rodeos are. Two of what a cowboy is. And three, how contributed Black people have been to this world for years. Yeah. Start doing the deep dives and realizing how bad it was for Black Cowboys prior to this time. And that I'm a part of a new age and a new wave, but we still have to be clear about what came before. And so because of this new awareness, I started to talk differently about the rodeo. I started to talk differently about Black representation in country western spaces. And because of that, I was asked to be a part of the documentary. Oh, that makes sense. I see that. Yeah. Okay. So we have a new segment. It is presented by Bruce Mobile's called Voice Note. So this is where either listener, a commenter, or a friend of the show sends in a voice note for you. Wow. See the love, a story, usually a question. Sometimes people want advice. There's all kinds of different things. So we're going to play this note. Somebody sent to the voice note. Yes. Wow. Oh, he's from Texas. Of course he's from Texas. I love it. Yo, my boy, I got a question for you, bro. Let's go. So I just got married. International players anthem was actually my way to walk out song. But I keep a G, bro. I ain't gonna lie. I used to be a player. Now I'm trying to walk the straight line and avoid the gunline. What type of advice would you give me on being a solid husband and trying to do right type shit? Like, what advice would you give me? No, I love that question. You asked the right question to the right guy, didn't you? Oh my God, you didn't even know what our conversation was going to be today. I love this. Will, first of all. You kind of answered it the whole podcast, by the way. But I'm gonna give a specific, what's his name? Will. Will, just rewind this whole episode. No, I got specific advice for Will. Okay, good. I got specific advice for Will. Will, I'm gonna need you in the next, I'm gonna need you by the beginning of the year to get yourself to a place where you can leave your phone with your wife for the weekend. I'm gonna need you to get to that place. How do you get there? Explain that. Break that down. Well, you got it. The first thing is you shouldn't have the numbers in the phone anyway, if you married, you should have done, you should have done this before. But let's say you don't want to be tempted anymore. That's not gonna happen. You're gonna be tempted. You're gonna find women that are prettier than your wife. You're gonna find women that are built better than your wife. You're gonna find women that are gonna do whatever you tell them to do. But they're not gonna protect you. They're not gonna love you in the way that your wife does. They're not gonna care for you. They're not gonna know what you need. They're gonna assume a lot of things. And basically what you're gonna have to do is try to teach and train somebody to love you in the way that somebody already does. It's not worth it, it's not worth it, bro. If you loved enough to marry her and to give her your last name in front of all those people and God Almighty, least you could do is keep your phone and your life clean. That's it. The idea of marrying a woman is saying to the world, I'm done. I found the one. I am complete. It won't be perfect, but it'll be perfect for us. That's it. If you're not there, bro, don't get married. Don't move in. Don't even do none of that shit because it's already toxic at that point. It's already problematic at that point. Take some time. If you have any women in your life, my brother, now's the time. Get it done. Get it done. Get it, get, erase everything that you need to be done with. And I hope your wife is watching. I hope your wife is watching because she needs to do it too. I was gonna say, I wonder. She needs to do it too because the idea is not just leaving the phone at home. You should be in a marriage where y'all can trade phones. Right? And if somebody calls her phone for her, you can tell them she has your phone and vice versa. That's the test, but you got to do your part first, Will. But you chose Pledge Anthem, so sound like you're on the right way. You're never going to, again, you're never going to want to stop being a player because a lot of people around you are going to be single. They're going to be actively dating. They're going to be going on vacation with women, single women that can do what they want, not like you because I hope that you and her are building a family at some point. Marriage is a great thing. A wedding is a beautiful thing, but you need a family. You have a full family. It'll put life in the perspective a lot better for you. And you won't have to ask me these questions. But yeah, man, clean that phone out. And to whoever will marry, God bless you for marrying him. Clean your phone out too because at the beginning of the year, y'all going to get some swapping going. The fact that he reached out is a good sign because it means he wants to be a good husband. Yeah. And people, I'm known for being a married man that takes his wife everywhere and that kind of a thing. So I want him to be able to have that type of marriage, but you've got to have that level of transparency. You've got to be fully transparent. She got to have your email passwords. You got to have your phone password because you're going to be somewhere with your wife and her phone going down. She's going to need your phone. So if you're hiding something, it's going to come out, bro. 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That is our in real life bowl. Let's see. Where you get a real life question for you bounce. One thing I'm no longer apologizing for. One thing I'm no longer apologizing for is not being a virgin to me that you thought could help me. And why say that as an entertainer? Because I don't have a record company. I don't want a record company. I don't want artists calling me at three in the morning because they got kicked out of a hotel for smoking weed. I don't want artists calling me because they're in a high speed chase because they got into it with some dudes. I don't want to have an artist that represents one color that's prominent in a certain city. Then they fall out with the other color in another city. And now because this guy is my artist representing that color, I represent that color. Now I am no longer welcome in the city. I don't have any gang affiliation or any ties like that. I don't represent anything. My gang is UGK and represent that for life. But those are the type of things that you have to take into consideration. If you're looking to, you know, being have a record company, signing artists, there's a lot of things that you have to navigate. I don't want to have to navigate that stuff. It was no longer available for or no longer? What was the question? No, no. Oh, one thing I'm no longer apologizing for. Apologizing for. There's not being a version of me that people expect to meet. I can only be me. You know what I'm saying? I can only be who I am. My job right now is to be authentic and intentional. So whoever you meet, and that's been the beauty of being me. I've been very lucky that if you met me in 92 and see me again in 2005 and then see me again in 2025, outside of my clothes and my weight and maybe the drugs, I do because I just smoke a lot of wet. I'll be very honest about that. But you've met the same person every time. As far as how I look at life, how I move, things like that, you've never had to be like, damn, what the fuck happened to him? I've always been that same person. Souls and tech. And that's, and I'm going to be that person whether or not it benefits me in the moment. All right. Our final question. In real life, Bumbi, what are you most proud of in your life? It's really a two-part question because it's two questions I'm squeezing into one. In real life, what are you most proud of about yourself to this whole journey of life? And then what do you hope people take away from your experience? I think the one thing I'm most proud of is that I haven't given a reason to the most important people in my life to not like me. Like, most of the people that I've been able to count on in my life, I can still count on because I haven't done anything that would make them question the choices that I make or the trust that they have in me. That, that for sure. And what's the second part? What do you hope people take away from your experience? You know, like even this guy who called or people who admire your career, maybe watched you from afar, even this legacy that you have, like, what do you hope that legacy is? What do you hope people take from your life? I hope that people try to be a better version today than they were yesterday and strive to be a better version of today, tomorrow. That's it. Because I've evolved like a motherf***. Like, I have not been this person. I've evolved. So I try to do those things as publicly as possible. When I have, you know, great achievements, I celebrate that publicly. When I have things that, you know, when I lose people, I have bad things happen. I try to share that with people. Because people would look at my life of various aspects of my life from the outside and assume that I've got it made. I've accomplished so many things. No, I've accomplished a few things. But those things have been public. And they're things that other people want to accomplish. So that's why it gets glorified and lifted up a little bit. It's almost like it's a beacon to people. Be like, see, he did it. You can do it. Do kind of a thing. But that's 15% of my life. I'm most proud of the other 85% of my life that no one else sees, but the people that I love and that they're proud of what I do when I'm off the clock. You know, I remember Will Smith talking about he won the Grammy and the first hip hop Grammy and then he went home and he showed it to his grandmother. She's like, that's nice. Go take the trash out of trash day. That's my wife. That's my life. I'm not saying that we don't celebrate achievements and we don't take pride in our accomplishments, but 15%. Get back to the 85, my God. Get back to the 85% of your duties. Get that trash taken out. I have to take the trash out the morning and I'll let put it on the curb. I believe you. Well, I will tell you the 15% and the 85% have been really inspiring to hear. Thank you. I'm so glad I did this. We've never had this kind of conversation. I'm so grateful for that. Thank you. I feel like I got to know you in a whole nother way. Absolutely. That's the thing. That's the game right now is to make sure to dispose of any misconceptions, any miscommunication, right? Or anything that they thought they knew. Even if they liked it about me, I got to come clean about these things. I got to leave everything I've learned, Angie. I tell this to everybody. I got to leave everything I've learned that's helped me or hurt me in life and get that information out of me to the world before I die. I don't want to die with game that I didn't give to nobody. That's a bar. We'll leave that. We'll leave it right there. I can't wait to hear the music. I'll watch the documentary and I'm going to get me a chill burger this year. The documentary is going to be cool because they're going to release all three episodes at one time. It's not like most where you got to watch one this Friday. I hate that. I have no patience. You'll be able to sit there and just watch the whole thing at one time. I'm going to get me a chill burger. Absolutely. It's a perfect holiday watching too. You'll love it. Thank you, Bumby. Thank you for having me. Bumby, everybody. Yo, what's up? This is Bumby, Rebbe UGK for Life, co-founder of TrillBergs and TrillTenders, and you're watching me right now in real life. Hey, guys. Thanks for watching. Make sure you subscribe, like, comment, and check out all of the other episodes we have on Angie Martinez's IRL podcast. Let's go. Our I Heart Radio Music Awards are coming back Thursday, March 26th. Live on Fox. 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