Dianna Russini, NFL Combine Week In Indy, A Big Dom Peace Meeting, Hot Seat/Cool Throne And Guys On Chicks

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We got hot seat cool thrown. we have our very good friend diana rossini on the show to talk to us about what the stories that are buzzing around indianapolis we also do a little town forum with him which which which was very funny and everyone got to ask a question with her with her sorry uh thank you hank and we're gonna finish back in the studio with our leftover olympic takes and some guys on chicks mixed in and it's brought to you by Chevy football season might be over, but you know how it goes. The minute the big game ends, we're already talking about what's next free agency, the draft, who's getting paid, who's grinding because for football guys, there is no off season and that's exactly why they roll with the Chevy Silverado. Silverado is a truck that shows up every time built to haul tow and take a beating, but smart where it counts with modern tech that makes life easier, big screens, available camera views that help with towing and parking and a cabin that feels right. 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Yeah, it's like the first day back from summer vacation. What did you do? I don't know, won a gold medal. Now I'm here, ready to talk football. Pretty good. So we are in Indianapolis. We have Diana Rossini on the show. Awesome interview with her. And let's talk some football. What do we got buzzing around? I have a couple stories. A couple things going on right now. It looks like Kirk Cousins might hit the open market. He is. They said it. The Falcons said it. I think they said like a 3-11 release date, which took me right back to high school. And he's going to maybe be a Minnesota Viking again? Maybe. I think there'll be a couple teams that might be interesting, a guy like Kirk Cousins. 10. We also had... What's that? 10. 10 what? 10? 10. What do you mean 10? 10. Is that a 9? Oh, his number. Yeah, 10. Nice. Yeah, that was good. You know numbers. Yeah, what would 9 think about 10? seven eight nine seven eight nine i think he'd be like whoa uh we have in other quarterback news to uh everything's on the table which we knew everything's on the table so all the gms talk today a lot of the coaches talk today everything's on the table for the dolphins we also have a word on aaron rogers that it's a fluid situation that should be resolved sooner than later i feel like i've heard that every single offseason about to Sean though yeah yeah but this is Aaron Rodgers for yet again we're just gonna wait yeah well real quick go back to the Tua thing yeah everything's on the table I love that phrase like everything everything because we don't know what is going to be on the table but it's all gonna be on the table Tua could be a fullback like what would you what what do you think the Dolphins would say yes to for a trade for Tua anything everything like anything right like if it's a pick Yeah. Like a sixth round pick for Tua. Yeah, a jugs machine. A seventh round pick for Tua. Probably. I don't know. What the hell would Tua's market be? That's what I don't know. It might be Tua plus. Because what? The alternative is they just cut him? They could cut him. Or they could. I don't know how that works. If they trade him, that probably saves them money with a cap. This is why we need a cap guy. Max, you were supposed to be our cap guy. Che, look up. Che, Che's here. look up uh what the options the dolphins have for tua in terms of cutting versus trading and then report back to us because they might have to do a tour plus where they go we'll trade you tua and we'll throw in jill and wall a fifth round pick ah yeah with tua and then you can determine whether or not you want to keep two on your own and then you can cut and then you can cut him yeah and take our fifth round pick so two is on the table kirk cousins on the table everything's on the table the um aaron rogers situation's fluid the big story though was trent williams is the 49ers and trent williams are struggling to come to a contract so he could be a potential free agent which would be quite something that would be big time um i think every single person in every fan in the nfl said i want that you can you can find room on a roster for trent williams I want that bad. Trent Williams is a joy to have on your team. He's just a fucking bully. Yeah. He's the best. He's also the rare offensive lineman where you have fun watching him play. And that might just be because I watched him on the Redskins for so long when we didn't really have anything else to watch. Like after the ball was snapped, my eyes would just go to Trent Williams. Yeah. Because it's like this guy, we might throw an interception, but Trent Williams might punch a guy in the throat. Yeah. But he's a fun player. and I feel like every single team should want, even me, like the commanders, he probably would never go back to D.C. and we have two great offensive linemen at our tackle position. I still want Trent Williams. Oh, I want him on the Bears bad. Yeah, he's the best. I want him on the Bears bad. He's got long arms. Of course, everyone wants him. Really long arms. Hank and I had, we had a really good ride to Indy. We drove together this morning. Did you almost lose your phone, Hank? We had a couple hiccups. What were the hiccups? I left my phone in my bag, and I put my bag in PFT's trunk, which is located in the front of his car. They call it a frunk. So there was like an hour where I was pretty confident it was in there, but there was an hour where I was like, I don't have my phone physically with me, and we had to wait until we stopped to check the frunk. Oh. It's really no different if he put it in my trunk, but it just happens to be in the front of the car. It happens to be in the frunk. Yeah, in the frunk. Frunk is a flex. It is kind of a flex. we had a couple minor hiccups on the way here. I just said that people are going to be talking about arm length at the combine. And then Hank got very offended by that for some reason. Why Hank? We used to talk about hand size. I feel like arm length is more of a discussion point right now. Is that triggering for you, Hank? I don't... I'm interested to see this arm length discussions because it felt like it was a direct personal shot. At who? Will Campbell. Oh. Does he have short arms? He does. Oh. Is that the reason why he did not play well at the end of the season? No. I didn't say that. He was hurt. Correct. That's a good way of saying that he got killed in the Super Bowl. He didn't play well at the end of the season. He didn't play that great in the playoffs either. But he was hurt. He was very hurt. He was hurt. He was a warrior. I just feel like the arm length because you have an example of a guy that didn't have his best game in whatever the last game of the season was, you have more people who will point at an offensive lineman that does have short arms and be like, it could be another Will Campbell situation. You know the media's very lazy when it comes to that. No, I don't. You're lazy. That's true. That's true. And then what was the other hiccup? We got into a little back and forth about windmills. Oh, okay. What happened with the windmills? Lots of windmills on the drive over through Indiana. Che was very enamored with the windmills. He's like, holy shit, that's so many windmills. A lot of windmills doing nothing. Yeah, he pointed out the ones that were doing nothing. Hank was disgusted by the windmills. And then I wanted to talk to him more about his point of view because I'm always trying to learn. And I'm not, you know, some people would say I'm a lazy thinker, but I don't think that I am. I'm always looking to grow. So I was asking Hank for his reasons why he doesn't like the windmills. Well, we did talk about the original windmill take was because of Indiana. Yeah. It was. Memes. Because of Indiana. Sauce Gardner. Memes is upset with Indiana Colts fans. Yeah. Indianapolis Colts fans. Yes. So, yeah, we just went back and forth a little bit, and Hank explained why he doesn't like them. And really, it all does boil down to one windmill in particular, that it fell into the ocean off the coast of Martha's Vineyard. and then hank i was like that sucks so like ships couldn't get past it and hank was like no actually i think like uh i think the fish were like eating the windmill after it fell into the thousands of pieces but that's hold on that's the fish's fault why would the fish eat fiberglass because it's it's it's in the ocean they thought it was they thought it was those bait yeah the giant well they're dumb fish are dumb yeah survival of the fittest but yeah i i we in this discussion which was very not heated whatsoever it i did come to realize like i have no issue with the land windmills yeah it's just the ones off the ocean so we kind of we kind of grew a little bit today yeah a lot of growth my my drive was great i just had steven chay in the back seat just randomly saying you know weird things and we'd be like huh and then kadek in the front seat who is mike kadek who uh is in some of these interviews with us uh we've had him show his past set the reason why i love kdick people don't know he played in indiana he's been working with us for a year now um he's just basically like a six-year-old where everything is the sweetest so it's like he's like what happens at the combine i was like there's gms and coaches there he's like oh that's so sweet and then i asked him you know what he there was a moment we were talking about you max and he was just like it's it's just so fucking sweet drinking beers with max i was just like yeah dude it's an awesome compliment that rocks yeah everything you say in life he's just like that's so sweet so it was a great drive i like to picture steven in in your one of your kids car seats still yeah he was he was i buckled him in i will say that the uh quitting nicotine thing has gone swimmingly it's been awesome haven't had too many problems the road trip is hard the road trip is like the final boss i think you got to slay when you're quitting when you're battling something like that because i had a breakfast crunch wrap on the way and following up a meal on a road trip yeah no nicotine that's it right i got some scars from today that's it but i made it warrior but we made it through warrior yeah was hank uh also going no nicotine oh wow hey hank and i were road dogs today besides the whole windmill thing and then the front set when i just talked about i don't understand what you guys fought about with the windmills no that women wasn't the only thing you guys just described was that you agreed well no honestly no i was getting defensive i was He was getting defensive. Sounds like you were defensive the whole car. He was getting very defensive about the windmills. Yeah. It was a learning experience. I was getting defensive about the windmills. Like, windmills are bad. And then PFT was explaining why they're good. And then I was like, you know what? You're actually right. You're correct what you're saying. I don't know why I have an issue with land windmills. It's just the ocean ones. Yeah. And I stand with Hank. I hate the ocean windmills, too, because the fish eat them. Land windmills, good. Yeah. Did you ever figure out why some of them don't move? I think those might be broken. They could be broken. and it is true when they get broken there's nothing they can do with them and they create more waste and it takes them like you can't you can't dispose of a piece of a windmill I also learned from because of the material I also learned from Landman which is just one entire commercial for the oil industry that windmills actually take a lot of oil to build because and so it's it's actually stupid that was in between Billy Bob Thornton and Allie Larder fighting over dinner for the 7,000th time it's a great show I think everyone should watch it I think I saw that one scene. He's like, you know how much it costs an oil to build this one windmill. That was a great scene because it didn't talk at all about like, what if you built more than one windmill? No, just one. Just one. And then they had tacos for dinner and Billy Bob Thornton got a plate thrown in his head. That rocks. And they made up by the pool. Yeah. And then had sex. Good show. Yeah, great show. That's the show. But yeah, windmills. We made a lot of progress about windmills today. Okay. I have a couple quotes for you guys. You want to hear them? Yeah. Tell me which one do you think is more. more, I don't want to say dire, but it's like, okay, that's a weird quote to have said. The first one was, play calling is my superpower. So that was, you would probably think that's like Sean McVay, Mike McDonald, Ben Johnson. Yeah, whatever. That was Aaron Glenn. Aaron Glenn said, play calling is his superpower. Yeah. That is his superpower. Superpower. Memes. What kind of. Do you guys ever see that documentary about the people who dress up like superheroes and try to vigilante justice? Aren't they all in Seattle? I think San Diego, maybe? Yeah. Aaron Glenn could be with that crew, like the fat Batman, and just calling different plays. Superpower. What does it mean? I had quotes. There's quotes. Why does it mean? This might be his superpower. What? Call him defense. You're trying to say he can't call defense. No, I didn't say that. I just said the quote. You're making fun of it. No, I'm not. When does the superpower become a good thing? Week one. It starts now. Starting now, it's a superpower. No, week one. Yeah, but this is going to be his first game with that as his superpower. He got bit by a superpower spider this offseason, and now he's got the superpower. Did he call plays last year? No. So we're pretty much going through the same cycle. as they had with Bob. Bob didn't call defensive plays. He let everybody handle it on their own. Woody intervened with Bob, said, you should just call the defense. He was like, no, I'm going to trust my guys. So now they're going through the same cycle with Aaron Glenn where – Oh, look, he's here. Oh, Big Dom's here. Hey, Big Dom. Hey, how we doing? Big Dom's here. So Big Dom came. We were obviously stopped the show to talk to Big Dom. Some things have to be off the record. Yep. the beef has been squashed, Hank. Going outside was mentioned, and I was like, this is one of those situations where I just have to just go outside and maybe just chuck knucks until I die with Big Dom. So I was ready to do that. I'm happy the beef was squashed. That was awesome. I mean, I said it. I don't think Big Dom knows me as well, but it's like I have talked a lot of shit about Philly. and Italians, so it wasn't as personal with Big Dom. I don't really – I stand on everything I said, but he was squashed. Well, it's like a Venn diagram. I was just about to say that's a Venn – you can't say – Yeah, you did Phillies and – That's what I'm saying. He was taking it personally, but it wasn't as personal as he took it, but we squashed the beef. The look on your face was pretty funny when he first walked in. You were not exactly pumped. Well, I was like – and then he was like, we're going to step outside. I was like, all right. I think that Big Dom took the situation. I think I stood up pretty well for myself. Yeah, he did good. He took the situation more seriously than Hank anticipated him to take. Yeah. Big Don was not joking around. And Hank also was done no favors by his good friend Max. Yeah, no, Max was the LVP. He jumped up and sprinted out of the room. He left the room. He did not have your back at all. No, no, no, no. No, I did not have your back. It was Alex Stein coming to the office. I could have died and you would have come back and be like, oh, Hank's dead. You said some bad things about Big Dom And I wasn't going to take it This is all your fault No we're good We are good You're good with Big Dom Let the record show it all started because of Max Fact or fiction There's a little We don't know all sides Will you Hank Will you be besmirching Big Dom in the future Now the beef is squash He's family I don't think I've besmirched him This is a show where opinions are given. I have given my opinions. You guys have amplified those opinions and said things for me that I may or may not have even said. So I will continue to give my opinions. No, no, no, no. No more. I've made faces, and then you guys are like, oh, this is what you think. And then that's what gets back to them. That's good. If he says no more slander, you have to know more poking of slander. Yeah, that's the thing. You guys are both pokers. You guys force me. You guys force me into things. Let me ask a question, just a simple question. We'll just get face reactions. You don't need to say anything. Big Dom is one of the most important pieces of the Philadelphia Eagles organization. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know how that organization works. And we also- What do you want me to- I don't want- I can't- What am I supposed to say? Am I supposed to now just be like, yeah. Big Dom is- His family. Big Dom is a good guy. I like Big Dom. I respect the fact that he showed up. I like that he was standing on business. He's the man. I think he really wanted to hurt me at one point. That's like funny. I respect that. But then if I'm now like I love Big Dom, it's like I'm super fake. How fake is that of me? But no beef. There's no beef. There was never beef. It's just a show where we give takes. There's a little beef. Nope, not for me. Max, can you explain? You're just as bad. You poke and you make him say shit that he shouldn't say. That's true You say shit you shouldn't say Max you're doing this gaslighting 101 right now No but you make him do it You made Hank do those things I make him say shit he shouldn't say Max can you just tell us What went through your mind when Big Dom came in Why'd you leave? I ran away I got scared I got scared What were you scared of? Because I love Big Dom He's the best He's arguably the face of the Eagles Right now don't make a face Hank I agree and obviously I love Hank Hank's my boss I didn't want to get I didn't like to see mom and dad fight so I went and played outside who's mom and who's dad in this situation Hank's for sure mom I don't know Hank you're kind of dad Hank was willing to throw down like Hank said it I was willing to go outside what was your question to me I was going to ask you the same question you asked me but obviously you're going to say yes. What? Is Big Dom the most important member? Yeah, easily. I know. Like Big Dom is, yeah, he's the thing I feared the most about the Eagles by far. The good, the good. Me too. I want Big Dom. I would love to have Big Dom. The good news is, the good news is Big Dom has accepted an invite to Max's bachelor party. Wait, what, Max? I was doing that thing where you always yell at me when I get nervous, I itch my balls. I caught myself mid-itching. Yeah. I was getting anxious about this conversation. That was a Max hat trick. He was itching his balls, caught himself, and then got mad at himself and yelled at himself for itching his balls. Max, Big Dom's coming to your bachelor party, maybe. Yeah, maybe. I would love for Big Dom to be there. The track suit you would have at the cabana would be incredible. I would love for Big Dom to be there. Yeah, it would be. It would be sick. I like Big Dom more after that interaction. Yes. He's the man. Good, good, good. And beef squashed. Beef squashed. Beef squashed. There was never beef. Hugged and dapped. There was just whites. You have to have a beef to squash the beef. There wasn't a beef. Big Dom also said he'd come on the show. He had beef with me. Big Dom also said. Join the club, Big Dom. We said that. It's like, he hates me. Join the club. Big Dom also said he'd get Max some of Vic Fangio's meatballs. He did say that. I felt like it was stolen valor, but he did say that he would do that. Yeah. Maybe just eat them and spit them out so you can taste them. No, that would be the most disrespectful. But eating them, swallowing them, you can't poop out. But as soon as it touches your lips. Yeah, you got to swallow them. Maybe just smell them. maybe just hold them you just hold Vic Fangio's balls Max got so excited from Big Dom he gave himself the hiccups I've never seen someone run away faster than Max ran away Hank stood here Hank stood on business Big Dom stood on business Max just I had to say out loud where did Max go I left the room I'm happy that Beef is squashed I did say to him I have talked more shit about the city of Philadelphia and their scumbag fans, and honestly Italians, than pretty much anyone else. So it's like Big Dom, I respect the fact that he took it personally, but I don't think it was as personal as he took it. Well, you just described Big Dom. No, I know. I understand that. But that's where it's like I was trying to explain to him, it's not that serious, at least from my side. That was beautiful, though. It was good. My memories of the combine. Did you really think he was going to come? Did you really have no idea? I had no idea. I'm interested to see about it all day You know who set it up K-Dick K-Dick K-Dick That was sweet dude That was so sweet I don't care I mean It was good It was funny Hank apologizing is kind of a superpower Yeah That was good Yeah It was fun Did I apologize No I think you just It wasn't as funny as It wasn't funny I thought he was going to beat up Hank I thought it was hilarious But credit to Hank, he was just like, all right, if you want to go outside, let's go outside. Chuck some nocks. Dude. Oh, God. And Maxwell ran into the bathroom. Beef squash. Beef squash. Beef squash. Beef squash. Max, did you ever put your hands over both your ears? Oh, yeah. For sure. I went outside. It was me, Kadic, and Big Dom's guy, Cole, and I was covering my ears. I was like, think of how uncomfortable I feel when you guys talk about Big Dom. I couldn't see it in real time. It did get to an uncomfortable point where I just threw out just to try to break some ice. I was like, Big Dom, that LaBubu was awesome. Just trying to get the boys on the right page. We ended up at a good spot. We did. We all hugged it out. It's great. I mean, that's the thing. Big Dom will do anything for you now. That's a fact. I don't think so. No, I think so. But I also never ask him for anything. Yeah. I think they're at the point where the beef is squashed, but I wouldn't say Hank is in the Big Dom family. No. Yeah. But it's neutral. He feels neutral about you now. Maybe bachelor party things could change. Yeah, bachelor party could be the best friends. Yeah, bachelor party could be important. I want him to come so bad. He would be the one one. He's the one one. And we also have a Big Dom translator and security guard Mike. we just have them them just kind of hang out together man big dom and fanta at the blackjack table together doing shrooms oh my god just fanta no fantasy no he listened to dare he listened to dare all right before we do some more combine stuff uh draft kings draft king sportsbook put you right in the middle of basketball's biggest star driven moments the moments when the ball finds the superstar and the game turns in a heartbeat stars heat up Stars take over, and with DraftKings, you're ready to move when they do. Bet player props, bet live from the opening tip to the final possession. Every bucket, every dime, every takeover matters in DraftKings Sportsbook. Keeps you connected as the action unfolds, and when a game turns fast, DraftKings has your back with early exit. If your player gets injured any time in the first half, your bet stays alive, and once it settles, you still get paid in cash. 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I will say, like, you do got to give credit to Hank because before the beef was squashed, that was a beautiful thing. When Big Dom said we could go outside, Hank didn't miss stride. So he would, like, no matter what his fate was going to be outside, he was ready to accept that fate. Like, all right, we're in the convention center, I guess. It would have been a hell of a story. I guess I'm going outside. In the hospital. I kind of love the idea. That's the thing about Big Dom. He would have put you in the hospital and brought you cannolis. He would have stopped by. Yeah. It would have been good, though, if you guys went all the way outside. So you had to traverse through this entire convention center. Before it was like, all right, now let's get physical. Yeah, it's a long walk to get outside. I mean, things really would have escalated from Jordan Schultz and Ian Rappaport last year. Yeah. To now it's Hank and Big Dom. Max just wailing like a baby watching. Max gets put in a foster care for podcasts at that point. I'm not safe. It's hard forever. There's another on the table. Oh, okay. I had one other quote, too. Okay. Yeah, go ahead. There's another thing where everything's on the table. That was so awesome. That was a great PMT moment. It was great. Holy shit. It was awesome. Listen, I don't know if I can truly explain how kind of awkward and a little bit scary it was, but also awesome. Awesome. Every second of it, I was like, this is the best. A hard disagree. The whole time, I was like, this is the best thing ever. It was great, but also there were some times when I thought maybe it would be the worst thing ever, but then it was back to being the best thing ever again. I thought the whole thing was awesome. I would describe it as like when you like and it's like when you like commit a crime you commit a crime and then the cops like come to you and you're just hoping that they let you off but you're like if I go to jail for this like I committed this crime and I just have to hope it works out that's respect that's respect okay the quote I had was Joe Shane GM of the Giants said I'm still the general manager of the team and my role has not changed. I feel like that's not great when you have to say that. Yeah, if you ever have to describe the fact that, like, by the way, I'm not fired. Right. You're pretty much fired. Right. I'm still the GM. Nobody has ever said, hey, just so you know, technically I'm not fired. And they got an extension after that. Just a heads up, still the GM over here. But the other, everything on the table. There's two on the tables. Okay. There's the two, everything's on the table. The Cardinals, all options are on the table at quarterback. not just with Kyler Murray Austin Font their GM who by the way he's around here somewhere had a beer with him last year I like him cool guy he said we've got Kyler Murray Jacoby Brissett Keaton Slovis all under contract as it pertains to that position and we're going to continue and go through that process it's all on the table so everything's on the table with Kyler including the Cardinals maybe trading for Tyson Bajan That's been a big story of – I mean, not a big story, but the Bears might trade Tyson Bajan. Is that true? Yeah. Cardinals are one of the teams. I feel like that is – Kyler in Chicago? Why? What's he just said? No, Tyson Bajan to the Cardinals. For – Would they trade? No, I think we'd probably trade for a draft pick. So Kyler to Chicago. Yeah. That's what I heard. I do not think we'll trade for Kyler in his contract. That's what I heard too. City big shoulders. Okay. I feel like Kyler Murray. yeah um yeah so i feel like malik willis florio speculates malik willis as well but i speculated before i pre-speculated florio nice weeks ago regarding malik willis to arizona okay so we'll we'll keep everyone updated on comment we have more combine talk with uh diana let's let's before we do hot seat cool throne should we talk about um the usa um hockey team controversy because i'd like to address it so there's a lot of people who are talking about it and the national anthem at 11 last night. 11 is not a strip club. It is a club with strippers. So let's just get that clear. Okay? Because a lot of people were upset about it. And I'm not going to stand for it. You guys agree, right? It's a club with strippers. Well, I thought that's a big difference. I thought the controversy was like, was everyone singing or did everyone just have their hand over their heart? I think you can do whatever you want. Yeah. If you want to sing, that's fine. Yeah. And if you sing, I don't think your hand has to be over your heart. It would be nice if it was. but if your hand's over your heart that's good enough if you don't feel like singing your voice is gone so like maybe just everybody chill out because everyone shows their patriotism in a different way there were some takes flying around that they sang the national anthem at a strip club and it's like guys I don't know what's wrong with that but again put some respect on Eleven it's a club with strippers I think every strip club should have the national anthem before they start the pole work every performance I agree You got a problem with that? That looked like the best party ever. You can get the fuck out if you got a problem with that. Yeah. That looked like the best party ever. And, yeah, if you have a problem with the 11 takes, just know Twitter's not real. A lot of Twitter's the real world, but it's not. Because those guys were having a blast. They were fucking. It is the best time ever. It is the best time. It's the greatest place on earth. Imagine the scaries the players are going to have when they're just in their regular uniforms. Like Wednesday. Yeah. Going to play. Yeah. And, like, they just have to go play regular game. I don't think they're going to play right away. They're going to get a little bit of time. But, yeah, it's got to be a tough wake up. There also was a residual Canada cope that I loved. Some guy was like, I feel like if Canada had won the gold medal, they would have just gone back to their NHL teams not celebrated because that's what we do in gold medals. And you don't. You didn't this year. Yeah. So you didn't. Also, yeah, Canada doesn't celebrate is a weird take. But Canada is now in the Cope spot where they're doing, like, the SEC football hypotheticals. Like, if we had won this, we wouldn't have celebrated at all. Yeah, but I'm pretty sure that Canada – Canada doesn't have an 11. They don't have 11. They've got – Montreal's got some good strip clubs. But they're not clubs of strippers. 11's not a strip club. That's true. What's that place out in Vancouver that they got? Where you get the flu, the Roxy flu? Yeah, the Roxy flu. They got the Roxy, which is pretty nasty. Yeah. But Canada, when they lost the Stanley Cup, when it was Vancouver, didn't they riot after a loss? Yeah. They burnt the city down. They burnt the city down. So, like, yeah. Maybe they only riot when they lose. Maybe. Who knows? It's so great that we have it for four years. Like, that's got us things. We should just. Because the Four Nations, yeah, okay, but it's not the gold medal. Let's try to just get. Let's just try to get hockey canceled in the Olympics. So it just stays ours. Yeah, we should. From now on. like honestly it's not good for the health and safety of the nhl players like it should go back to just being amateurs oh man i fucking love that we won the gold and we are like the the takes that we talked about on sunday like being like americans are just gonna move on to the next sport yeah bill self big monday we said it he's just that's all he does is win on big monday and we're already we're at football is back and then i saw the one guy doubled down and he's like all these america Don't even worry about America. They're just going to be busy filling out their brackets in a couple weeks. That's sweet. To quote Mike Hadick, sweet, dude. You're going to have to be more specific about which brackets because we have so many brackets that we're going to fill out. We might do a bracket for the NCAA tournament. We might do one for the NIT. We might do one for the CBI, the Crown. We might just fuck around and just do fast food brackets and then get mad about those because we have so many different kinds of fast food that we can literally make a 60-14 bracket of fast food restaurants. Yeah. Listen, buddy, it's not easy bracketing all the time, but it is something that will be our cross to bear as Americans. We've got to win the World Baseball Classic. And the World Cup. Yeah. Can you imagine how awesome it would be, though, if we did? We're not going to win the World Cup. But the level of, like, fuck yous that we could give to the world if we took over soccer. They might cancel all sports. I think every other country would agree to bomb us if we won the World Cup. Yeah. Max by the way I told you off air but I'll say it on air I have we have an in With the Italian team in the World Baseball Classic our guy Vinny He was on your team right Yeah so my Tino Was carrying for most of the season Yeah that guy's a stick We're in preliminary talks With him I'm in preliminary Talks with him to get Max to go to a game Dressed as a meatball I accept It would be awesome for the vibes I will join Team Italy if they need me to be a meatball. I'm still a little shook, so my words are not working great, but I will do it. Just touch the balls again. Your words are not working great. I'm nervous. I'm still anxious about what happened. Check in at home. There you go. I'm texting Roan right now. What did Roan say? Also, Roan fucked me. That was so dirty. Big Dom was like, yeah, your guy at the party was like, that guy's a piece of shit. Roan's the best for that. It's like one of my best friends. Oh, we do have Che got to the bottom of Tua. Che, are you here? Here he goes. Our cap expert. He's our capologist. I would also like to hear, what was Steven doing? Yeah, Steven, where were you when the big dom was going down? Come over here. Come to a mic. Here's Zach, get up for a sec. I'll go where Max is. Did you were you worried for Hank Yeah you weren around If things got dirty i would have stepped in he knows yeah chay knows karate um so tua signed a four-year 212.4 million dollar deal in july 2024 including 167.2 million dollars in guaranteed money. The deal expires after 2028, so three years left. Cutting Tua pre-June 1st this year incurs $99.2 million in dead money. That seems like a lot of dead money. If released after June 1st, they can spread that money over two years. But you can also release a guy and then designate it as post-June 1st, which doesn't really make that much sense. So they ideally would like to find somebody to trade for Tua to take on that cap. Yeah, but his salary is $56 million this year. So you'd have to throw in, like, hey, we'll give you Tua, and then maybe a good draft pick. Yeah, but that's still a lot of money for a team to incur. Who can absorb 56? So they're going to have to cut him or play him. Yeah. Everything's on the table. Everything's on the table. But mostly it's cut or play. Okay, thank you, Steven. Great work as our capologist. Okay, before we get to hut seat, cool, thrown. By the way, reminder, we have Zach's 36-hour stream coming on Friday. We've got a Max Top 18, me and Max, and then I'm 18 on the back end, one man, yes. Okay, and we'll also have a tracker on screen with Microsoft. So we're going to have a QR code, a tracker on stream with Microsoft Copilot. And what we're going to do is people can download Microsoft Copilot, And once the downloads get to every like X amount, we'll figure it out before it will trigger a wheel of four challenges, four rewards, four punishments for Zach and Max to complete. So that's going to be fun. And the more you download, the more Zach gets punished. Tune into Zach's 36 hour punishment stream Friday and download co-pilot with the QR code on screen. Yeah, there'll be a QR code on screen the whole stream. It's going to be great. The punishments are the, there are four sections of the wheel that are all 2.5K in the booth. Oh, love it. I want to see the 10K in the booth. So there is an out if people just don't do that. So if everyone downloads Copilot. 10K in the booth. 10K in the booth. It's going to happen. It's roughly only 4,600 down and back. One way. One way. So 2,300-ish. 4,600. That's not that many hundreds. Because the booth is bigger than we first thought. It's 158 inches. So we got like a decent run. I think it's 312 down and back. Like down and back is one. You have to do that 312 times per wheel slice. Oh, that's not that bad. The worst part about that is going to be keeping count. Yes, it is. No, we have a pitch counter. Okay. Down and back is one? Down and back is one. 312 times. 312 times. So much. That's not bad. I think my biggest worry is getting dizzy. Yeah. Zach's also... We'll see. Maybe we'll take Airborne or something. For motion sickness. Maybe we'll get ahead of it. Then he might sleep in too much. We could drem up. Can't sleep in too much. That wouldn't be entertaining at all. Okay. Hutsey Cool Throne, brought to you by Pizza Hut. Have you heard about Pizza Hut's Big New Yorker? It's Pizza Hut's biggest pizza. Massive 16-inch slices. so big you have to fold them for just $10. $10 doesn't go as far as it used to, but the Big New Yorker, it's an XL pizza with fluffy New York style crust and Parmesan oregano seasoning. That's a lot for $10. What more could you want? The $10 Big New Yorker is a big deal. You can't argue with the math for a limited time. Only order a $10 Big New Yorker and solve dinner with six XL slices on New York-style crust. Hank, your hot seat, Cool Toronto. My hot seat fanatics, Nike, back in the hot seat. They thought that Canada was going to win the gold, so they just did not make enough USA jerseys. And so by the time USA won the gold, they were already sold out. It's probably like, you know, everyone was fired up. Everyone was feeling their patriotism, wanted to buy a jersey. They just could not. That's brutal. It's disgusting. Drop the ball. That's brutal. We should be allowed to make our own. Like, they shouldn't be allowed to copyright strike us or say it's knockoff. If you didn't make it. Until you produce enough. Let the free market fill in. Let us do it. I agree. I agree. My cool throne of this is true. The first time I read it, I just assumed it was fake. But then I saw enough sources. I think you're going to steal mine. Heat 2? No. Heat 2, Christian Bale, Leo DiCaprio. Oh. Okay. Hell yes. You think it's real? Yeah, disgusting film. Disgusting film? Disgusting film? Disgusting film. Disgusting film. It's a Bonnie Blue. And this guy, Jake Stakes, who is an Emmy-winning entertainment anchor for Good Day Chicago. I'm excited about that. Oh, Jake Owen. Jake Hamilton. Jake Hamilton, I meant. He is the best. So he's a real guy. Jake Hamilton, yeah, furball. Yeah. So he reported it. Yeah, okay. I trust Jake. Heat is one of the best movies of all time. And Christian Bale, Leo DiCaprio, Heat too. Yeah, I'm in. Awesome. In. Awesome. I hope there's guns in this one too. All the way in. Also, Jacob Bridgman. What about him? He won the Riviera last week, and there was a clip on PGA Tour posted from his wife that said he's a better person than he is a golfer. Nope. Not true. Not true. Not true, dude. You just won a PGA Tour tournament. Like Scotty Scheffler, he even admits, way better golfer. I don't think Bridgerton is a better human than Scotty Scheffler. You're a better golfer, dude. You are top 50 golfer alive right now. You're not top 50 human being. Sorry, buddy. Yep. Seems like a nice guy. Wrong. Facts. Also, by a source much? His wife? She's got to say that. She might not like golf. That's true. She might not like him. I think she does like him. Yeah. She doesn't like the fact that he plays golf. He's gone every weekend. She's trying to get him to stop golfing, to go out and be a person full time. Yeah. By the way, we're God are up, guys. Yeah. Just a fact. Hutsey, Kulter on PFT? I'm a Bridgman guy. You're a Bridgman guy? I'm any golfer. I'm a golf guy. Just any golfer. So anyone who wins, that's your guy? If you're on a tour. A tour? Tour? What did you say like that? You're a Patrick Reed guy? Yeah. Uh-huh. Just any golfer? Any golfer. Ever. Basically. Okay. All right. We'll find some golfers. O.J. Simpson loved golf. I was about to say O.J. golfer. Loved golf. Not professional. But he loved golf. You said any golfer. No. Was he on a tour? He was not on a tour. All right. My hut seat is going to be, because Hank took one of them, the NFL rule book. I only had one. On the hot seat because the UFL just unveiled their rules today. A little bit gimmicky. I'm just going to say it. Mike Rappoli is now in charge of the UFL, the body armor guy. We love Mike Rappoli. And Noble. And Noble. But it seems, and Hank, you might enjoy this take or this angle on it, seems like Dave assembled just an Italian football league because it's Mike Rappoli, it's Dean Blandino, and it's Mike Pereira all calling the shots for the UFL now. And they've changed some of the rules. So they're doing a four-point field goal for long field goals. You're not allowed to punt inside the 50-yard line. And then they've got one, two, and three-point conversions after you score a touchdown. I don't like the banning of punting inside the 50. That's going to be tough on some of the older coaches like Mike Tomlin. Wait, this is UFL or NFL? It's UFL. UFL. Yeah, it's Rapoli's league. Okay, yeah. Yeah. So I don't have to learn any of these rules. You don't have to learn any of these rules unless they try to bring over some of the rules. Got it. The four-point field goal, I think, is one of those things that's been the league leader in stuff that you say when you're watching football with the boys that you don't actually want in the NFL. It'd be cool if there was a four-point field goal past 60 yards. But nobody actually really wants that. No. Field goals are worth three points. We don't want more field goals. Extra points are worth one point. Two-point conversions are worth two points. Three-point conversion could be fun. It could be worth three. I disagree. Yeah. A nine-point game being a one-possession game. If you're up nine points, that should be two-possession. I do see the rules getting floated around again. Instead of an onside kick, you have to convert a fourth and 20. I'm all for that. I like that. All for that. That's good. Yeah. And then my cool throne is Darren Peterson. Yeah. So Kansas back, time of the Cougars. I was pissed off. Houston didn't really drop that much in the futures department after this little stretch that they went through. But Darren Peterson gave an interesting interview after the game. He said, somebody has had something to say probably after every game. I don't really pay attention. I kind of have been an antisocial loner my whole life. And that's how he handles some of the criticism. Not like the greatest thing to hear from your star player being like, I'm an antisocial loner. but I think it's probably for the best that he's like he's saying it out loud I think that's progress right as opposed to just being an anti-social loner and not talking about being an anti-social loner team game though now he's kind of being a teammate now I feel like he's being a social loner we have gotten into a weird area where now the kids are getting paid a lot of money we're like well they're getting paid but they still like he's 18 yeah so he his brain is like half formed that's what is your your brain forms fully in like 25 until you're 25 so it's like i cut him a little slack yeah just kids he's 18 now i i do think that like yeah if you're 18 years old having millions of people that have an opinion on you is not something that a human was ever meant to absorb as an 18 year old like until what 100 years ago 200 years ago the most people that knew about like an average 18 year old in the world was probably like 5 000 what's up memes 18 was like life expectancy what's up memes are you laughing at max he just keeps texting me calling me a pussy and i say yes i am a pussy oh about running out of the room yeah running out of the room but yeah so i think i i feel like the college kids are in a weird spot right now because like the human brain is not equipped to handle correct people like a million people being like this guy's a bitch yeah like it's fine if your boy is like hey you're a pussy and text you that but imagine if you're a young kid and you've got a million people right like hitting up the dms but it was it was still weird to see that from uh it was weird to hear that in a press conference but i do feel more optimist about kansas after uh yeah after last night if they could play all their games on monday night with with bill self okay my hot seat is uh boxing i actually thought this was fake this is what i thought was fake when you said heat too mayweather and pacquiao are fighting again finally i why who wants this who asked they were washed the first time yeah this is now there was like 10 years mayweather's 49 pacquiao's 47 why this sucks it sucks no one wants it no one wants it and i'll watch it but i don't want it like it's two guys that have the most boring fighting style when matched up against each other when they're young yeah and now they're old but you didn't say where it is where is it sphere yeah it's oh fuck i'm in i'm so in i'm so fucking in that's awesome yeah the first morning that's so sick that's so sick i'm so in all right my cool throne is uh i have two the first is we have our march madness gear now in the store store.barcel sports.com we got the new positive vibes hat i got the just cover hat i love this just cover hat we got just cover sweatshirt everything so go right now buy it get ready for the best month of the year with march madness coming up and then my other cool throne hank i have something for you i i'm i'm such a good friend i came across a tweet uh and i bookmarked it you ready for the tweet I'm a good friend I have not fact checked any of this tweet I'm just going to say it to Hank and we can just go from there 314? The length of Jason Tatum's documentary is 314 I didn't even know he had a documentary Jason Tatum was eligible for a $315 million Supermax but signed for $314 million St. Louis area code is 314 Celtics play the Wizards on 314 I love this Yeah. So I think he's going to come back then. Wow. It's also pie. It is pie. It's pie day. Pie day. 3.14567823. You're just making this up. I made it all up. Yeah. You know what, Hank? I believe it. There you go, Hank. That's big. I believe it. I feel like Tatum's coming back. Definitely. And I feel like the Celtics are the team to beat. I did cash out of the future. Why? Because I didn't want to be right again. Yeah. I saw how angry that made Hank. Wait, but you were wrong. No, I was right. You bet on the Patriots. Yeah, but I wanted them to lose. And you were wrong because you said the Patriots weren't going to go to the Super Bowl in five years. I was wrong about that. That part I was very wrong about. But no, I didn't want to do it to my boy Hank. I wanted Hank to enjoy this postseason in the NBA free from my trolling. I wanted to let nature take its course and let Jerry O'Connell step back in to the role that he was born to play. Okay. Jerry does it better. I want the Knicks. Okay. You want the Knicks. You want them. Why? Because I want a bing bong in Jerry's face. Okay. Revenge. You'll have your shot. Not scared, yeah. You'll have your shot. Zach? These aren't scared either. Oh, there you go, Zach. Way to go. Stand up for yourself. No, dude, he was cocked and loaded. I love that. I swear to God, he was ready to go. No, it was just a high-stress environment. I didn't know what was going on. Yeah, yeah. I think, did you have a knife? I think I saw you taking a knife. All the way weaponless. It may have been a portable charge. He just stabbed Big Dom while we were trying to do peace talks. Maybe the portable charger. Peace squashed. Peace squashed. All right, Zach, your Hudson Cool Throne. My Hudson this week is going to have to be a friend of the program, Terrence Scooble. Did you guys see? Yes. He is going to have a roster spot for the baseball classic, but he's just going to pitch one game. We didn't pitch him one game. Why is he? He's pitching one game against Great Britain. It's because he's in a contract here. Oh, that makes sense. He definitely said that he wanted to pitch in it, And then Scott Boris definitely was like No fucking way you're pitching in this And then they probably came to a compromise That was like alright you can pitch Three innings against Great Britain So that you can say It's bullshit Scott Boris let him fucking pitch on the team We know Scoogle would do it Absolutely he's a hoss You don't just stop being a hoss It's bullshit though It sucks You hate to see contrast get in the way of country You know And then my cool throne this week is going to be... Wait, do you do emojis on your cool throne? Yeah, I do. I separate a little ice cube and then we do the heat. That's awesome, Zach. Emojis are the best way to categorize... Wait, let me see. You had a lot. You come prepared. You had Tush Push, UFL, United Football League. Don't bring up Tush Push. Max will get mad. The NFL is quiet talk, but UFL won't stand for... Oh, so you had that and then you had Scooble. kind of lame for taking a spot and only pitching one game against a team like Great Britain. I tied to it, but I didn't say it. Okay. Okay. Go ahead. My cool thing this week is going to be guys who game. Yeah. You guys into studies done by accredited colleges and accredited medicine libraries. Hell yeah. So 30 minutes of cardio, all we need, could drastically change performance in virtual worlds such as video games. So are you going to start? So I hit the treadmill last night. I did have a losing record for the evening. I was 2-3, but that's drastically better because the previous evenings I was like 0-6, 0-7. Where's your KD ratio? I'm more of like a hold the point. I'm not on the point, but I'm watching the cut. He's trying to get time in the point. I give the guys time on the point. I kind of make some separation between P1, P2. Hold the hills. What kind of games are we going to play on Friday? I think there's a possibility we play a couple of games. Maybe we hop into – me and you hop into a chain together. That could be fun. A lot of doubters think we couldn't beat it, but I think me and you could beat it. We're not going to commit to beating that because that will take the entire stream. Yeah, we'd never commit, but we'd give it a shot. I think it could be fun. Maybe we'd go up in the skies, PFT, maybe. That could be kind of fun. We do our Tai Chi workout before. I set Zach up with the flight sim last week. Put him in the goggles, VR. Zach is a natural. I believe it. He's a natural in everything. I feel like if I gave Zach two days flying a plane. autopilot. Zach is already well on his way to being a better pilot than me. No, PFD's ability to fly the plane from the back of the plane is the only reason we made it off the ground. We're going to compliment off. No, Zach is like, I'll tell you something. Zach, I went into this guy with the wrong mission. First chance, first opportunity to land the plane. Wait, Hank, he landed the plane. Hank's going to show, Hank, show us again. All right, this is how I do a flight simulator. Hold the joystick, tilt it up, get it in the air, autopilot. That's just not true. That's not true. So we don't use autopilot. You don't respect the skies. That's not cool. Hank's just being a hater right now. I mean, I respect real flying. Flying real planes is beyond respect. Beyond respect. Until you're in Syria under attack. This is really simulating flying a plane. By Russian fighter jets. Zach landed his first attempt. And then PFT ejected me. You're arguing against yourself. No, I'm saying that Zach's different. Zach is nasty on the stick. He's different. I think anybody could be decent in disguise, but we've got to have respect for the skies. at the end of the day. Respect for the skies, Hank. Respect for the skies. I respect for real skies. Okay. Okay. Okay, let's get to our interview. Great interview with Diana Rossini. And then we'll finish up back in studio with guys on chicks and Olympic takes. Your arms have to be long enough to touch the autopilot button. And sometimes guys don't have long enough arms for that, Hank. Before we get to Diana Rossini, she's brought to you by our great friends over at Twisted Tea. Twisted Tea is a refreshing hard ice tea made with real brewed tea, 5% alcohol. Twisted Tea is a perfect drink, Keeps the good times going all day, all season long. 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We needed an extra episode every week. That also tells me that your bosses don't listen to Pardon My Take, because if they did, they'd be like, hey, they would be like, be less like Pardon My Take. Don't spend 20 minutes talking about Le'Veon Bell's tweets. on a show i will say even sometimes like i'll see like the length of your show and i'm like who has two hours it's usually a flight and then i'll go through i'll listen a little i'm like what is like it just goes off the rails it just if there's something that happens or or some kind of story and then we just go down a rabbit hole it's like oh shit we just wasted 45 minutes on that we had to do a little debate about which kind of grocery store you would fuck which kind grocery store you would marry which kind of grocery store would be your second wife is yellow you just get you get lost in the pod sometimes that's a good question though to start off like you're a reporter you're in the news how old is Le'Veon Bell 36 okay close well close and far sources say he's anywhere between 34 and 45 yeah he keeps saying he's 45 but he's 34 he's he's he's not said he's he's multiple times he said he's 45 45 he on his birthday he said 45 trips around the sun. It's whatever. We shouldn't do this again. Remember Ryan Lockheed's dog? Ryan Lockheed's dog. Nobody had any idea how old it was. He turned four like seven years in a row. Yeah. Is he still alive? We'll say yes. No, Le'Veon Bell. All right. Let's bring it back to focus here. Combine week. Three biggest stories in Combine week. I mean, right now, I'd say the biggest stories are A.J. Brown. Okay. What the Eagles are going to do. I think Max Crosby is still the biggest story and probably what Minnesota is going to do, a quarterback. Like to me, those are like the three outside talking about the upcoming draft and free agency. Like I think that's where everyone's kind of putting all their energy into. So that last one, Max Crosby and A.J. Brown, we all know is like, you know, could be traded. I think A.J. Brown probably going to be traded. Max Crosby, I actually would go gun to head not traded. Huh. Vikings, though. You can ask me what I know. Oh, okay, yeah. What do you think? You think he is or no? I think that it's going to, in both situations, do you want to start with AJ? Yeah, yeah, let's start with AJ. I think AJ's been pretty open about wanting to move on, right? So I think it's just going to come down to whether or not Philly's going to be able to move him to a team that would make sense for AJ Brown and his camp and how they want to do it. But I think there's hope from some Philly fans that they can maybe make this work. But I don't know. I just kind of look at it as, yes, you know, AJ is a great player and the team is better with him on it. They've been to two Super Bowls, but sometimes like it's just better like to just split and go in separate ways and separate directions. They've got so much to manage and handle anyways, you know, with all these new coaches that I think it's probably better that they do split. So I expect a lot of that to heat up over the next few days. We'll probably have an answer very soon. Oh, wow. It's going to be that quick. Because usually that's how it works. Because what happens is all the teams start chatting and, you know, things start getting done, you know, and then we have to wait for it to become official. But I think people start talking about it. When you say that people like stuff gets done when they hang out here at the combine, like how much gets done just out at steak dinners? Just like two GMs happen to get drunk together and they're like, yeah, fuck it. Let's do this trade. Yep. I've stood next to them. Yeah. I've had a lot of stories break in bars. And I had one last year. Whereas remember when the Giants were interested in Matthew Stafford, we weren't sure if Stafford was going back. And Vegas gave him that huge offer. And York was really hoping that he would go there. And I think we all were like, yeah, he's not doing that. But the Giants had hope. And I was at Prime. And it was probably like 1 o'clock in the morning. And I was like, okay, I got to go home. I have a flight in the morning. and I just saw some people who I knew would know about the situation walk in and I just did a loop went right back in and found out that Stafford was going into the Rams facility in like four hours to tell Sean McVay that he wanted to be there and that he wants to do a deal and so I just wrote the story from the airport when I wound up taking I never went to bed so you just you're like instead of going to bed i'm just gonna hang out with peter schrager no i beat schrager on that story okay so i want to go just listen to her podcast and she'll tell you everything yeah yeah it'd be great i i want to i want to do the max strousby and vikings as well but i have a side question here um doing like in in the combine you know going to the bars having you're a big j journalist we're two idiots so we can go and and talk to people we don't share secrets that we hear at a bar we might like joke about it but we're not we're not trying to gather information is that tricky though having that like hey i'm friends with you we're sitting at a bar but also i'm doing a job like where's that line forget the bar situation it's every day right right of you wind up talking to so many people because you have a great relationship with them and and there are some relationships where you're talking so often and and you're sharing life stuff as well like family and you get to know each other and I'm like, wait, did he want me to know that? Is that he's training that player? Like, I'm not sure. I got to go circle back. I think most people in football are pretty savvy to know what I do for a living. So I like to think that they're not saying it, you know, with, I think they trust that I'm going to handle the information well. Right. But most know what they're doing, especially combine week. There's reporters everywhere. Right. Do you respect retroactive off the record? If someone says something to you and you have a shocked face and they go, actually off the record. I hate that, actually. I get offended. Okay. I'm like, everything's off the record with me. Right. Until it is. Until it's on. And then I say, okay, can I go with this? Right. That's actually probably how I work more than ever now. I just talk to everyone and then I will call them back or shoot them a note or an audio message and be like, hey would you care if i go on my podcast and say that you're trading your quarterback tomorrow yeah yeah yeah that feels like it's a good way to do it like you probably get way more information if you're just like you know that it's always off the record and then at some point i'll be like hey can i report this you know what the hardest thing is when you do know so much and you can't say it and you guys have had me on on shows before you when you know i know but i can't say it right and everyone's like you know up in arms about well she doesn't know what she's doing like and i want to scream like oh my gosh if they only knew you know yeah you know what you're doing i over talk sometimes what about what about the i overshare audio message i hate that i hate that moves the most annoying thing ever is audio messages just text or call but don't call just text text works perfectly fine why does the audio message bother you because i have to hit play and i have to play it out loud and it's like it's so annoying just enticing so i just i just hit it and you know how it transcribes it i just read it as a text i don't really listen to it you gotta listen you gotta get the inflate when i see the audio message i i think to myself like this is some good shit because the person was not willing to write it they didn't want it to be screenshot right and then it'll be normal so like jerry o'connell and julian edelman those are the two biggest jules is big the two biggest where you'll just be texting back and forth then they'll just pop an audio message in and it won't be anything you'd be like dude you could have just kept on exactly i had i had a weird situation on the walk over here i had a player send me an audio message about his situation and then at the end of it said thumbs up this if you if you if you're down with this you know oh but i didn't listen to it all the way through i didn't realize until i saw the font i'm like oh good thing i said good thing i read it did you thumbs up it yeah i did okay okay so then he emojied it back to see that he saw the thumbs up i'm like this is so much work It's like spy games. What emoji did A.J. Brown use back to you when you thumbs up it? Crying face. Okay, so with A.J., you mentioned something earlier about what's good for him and his camp and what they want to accomplish. Yeah. How does that factor into what the Eagles are going to do? Because I feel like Howie's going to do what Howie does. Howie's going to do what's best for the Eagles, but I like to think that he's going to want to work with Jimmy Sexton, that's A.J. Brown's agent and put A.J. at a team that has a quarterback that he probably wants to play for. Can I throw a couple cities out there to you? Sure. New England. If A.J. were here right now, you want me to talk about the city? What emoji would A.J. Brown use to respond to these cities? New England. Smiley face. Oh. Buffalo. Smiley face. Okay. Washington, D.C. Thumbs down. Tennessee Titans. Poop emoji. Okay. That's a good city. Yeah. Los Angeles. Which one? The city. No, which team? The Lightning Bolt. Oh, that would be an interesting one. Smiley face. Smiley face. Good quarterback. Okay. What's the deal with – By the way, I'm answering these just based on the quarterbacks. No, we're interviewing – We're interviewing – Oh, so you don't like Cam Ward. Okay, print that. The wide receiver wants to play with a quarterback that is very good. And you're naming teams that have very good quarterbacks. Jaden Daniels, you said thumbs down. I don't think Washington would be a place he'd play. Why is that? I mean, if the opportunity is there, I'm sure he'll listen. But I don't see him going there. A lot of people are forgetting about Jaden Daniels. That's all I'm going to say. A lot of people are forgetting. I'm keeping a list. And now AJ's on the list, even though it just came through. Diana should be on the list. You're on the list, too. Yeah. memes you're good you're good with memes now now i hate you yeah what pass the diana file over this is every time i come on i'm growing just more enemies when we started it was like we were like a family and now it's like i'm on the outs with every person just pass you dan it's just me and you baby yeah i'm fine we're good we're fine can we talk about the bears yeah max crosby because spy tech just said that they weren't going to trade him i know that you've talked a lot to max crosby oh my gosh what are you guys doing to me today well you've said you've you've shared news about max crosby you text him every day in the very recent past you have you have discussed max crosby's his desires how he feels and we have max max's back because he's been no one's going to accuse max crosby of not being a good soldier right like he's going out there he's he's gave his all for the raiders for years on some pretty bad teams when they were clearly you know trying to throw the towel in and max is always going to play well he's going to try to be a good team player but it seemed like something changed this season yeah so what changed well i agree with you that max is the type of player that every team wants him in their locker room on their field and he did put in a lot of years and he's in his prime right now and he hasn't won anything and has been through tons of change i think the frustration he had was how they managed him and his injury this year and this is someone that wanted to be on the field for every single game his legacy is important to him the type of player that he is he wants to be able to reflect on his career in a way that he put maximum effort and i think when they shut him down that went against what he's about when he's like i do everything to make this place great you should allow like let me have a voice and a say in this right and this regime decided to to say no you're gonna sit but now it's a new regime i know john spitek's still there but like yeah you know p carroll gone tom brady's still there yeah tom brady's still there mark davis still there shout out mark davis we love you come on the show uh i i feel like he's not gonna get traded i know i can feel that why why do you think that do you think this is all just max being emotional and then he's gonna chill out and be like you know what i don't want to go anywhere no i think i think he's not to the point of an aj brown or even i mean miles garrett didn't get traded but like he doesn't feel like he's demanded one publicly didn't attend the new head coaches press conference that's right but But that happens to a lot of guys. Max is the classy, take the high row guy. I think it's more about the Raiders being like, why would we trade Max Crosby? Because you know in the NFL, you can go from worst to first pretty quickly. I know the Raiders have a lot of holes, but they're going to hopefully get their QB1 with Mendoza with the first pick. And it's like, it's the opposite of NBA. Where NBA, it's like, oh, we're tanking. We don't want this guy. In five years, we'll be good. He'll be past his prime. The Raiders could be good in a year or two, and Max Crosby, you'd want him on the field. See, I don't think they're that close. To take the Raiders, let's say the Raiders were open to doing this and want to move them. They're rebuilding. Think about what you can get back while they're trying to build this up. I don't think it's back. They might not be that close, but they also, like, there's teams, I mean, the commanders, Jaden Daniels, like, when they weren't that close, they got Jaden Daniels. He stinks, remember? And then they were in the NFC Championship game. Like it does happen in the NFL where you can, if you hit on the quarterback, it can be that quick that the turn can happen. But can you hit on the quarterback? Yeah. I want Max Scroggie on the Bears. I'm just saying I feel like there's, I feel like everyone's going to talk about him going somewhere and then he might not end up anywhere because the Raiders are like, why would we trade a guy this good? Let's play the game of where would you see Max? The Bears. I don't think they have the money. Yeah, probably not. Right? And so it's going to be a Micah Parsons-like package for the Raiders. So what does that look like? Who has it? I think that's the problem. Who has it? I don't think a lot of teams are going to have that available. New England could do it. The Ravens could do it. I could see him on the Ravens. Could you imagine? Yeah. Doesn't that just fit? Yeah. Okay, so you think he's going to get traded? I I will not be surprised if that winds up happening okay and then the last one which what are the Vikings gonna do i didn know that was a debate i feel like they got to go with jj mccarthy he nine are you anti you anti okay all right no no i not i i i don know if you kidding no are you anti-nine jj mccarthy's a winner i think every level he started 10 games it was tough for him to stay healthy it's also tough to pull the plug on a quarterback this early However, Minnesota is a team that could have possibly been in the Super Bowl this year if they had kept Sam Darnold. I don't think that's off the table. Their defense isn't as good as Seattle, but they're still really good. And they obviously made that decision because they believed in J.J. And I think we saw that it is a work in progress. So they're going to have to bring a quarterback in. Kirk Cousins. Who's now going to be a free agent. Right, so you think that's going to happen? It feels like it's destined. I don't think it's off the table. What about Aaron Rodgers? I don't think they're going to go back down that road. Because remember, they had that opportunity. Yeah, how close was that? Close. Very close. I remember when it was going down, there were a lot of people saying that, like, I guess Kevin O'Connor was publicly downplaying the likelihood of that happening. But it was so weird. Coaches are lying about things that are going on? The way that the Vikings approached their entire last year at the quarterback position has been really, really strange. Why? Well, they seemed like they kind of kicked Sam Darnold out the door because of two bad games, maybe three bad games. The backup quarterback situation that they would bring in and bring out, almost like they wanted to protect J.J. as the unquestioned starter. They didn't want to bring anybody in around him that had outside starting experience. I guess with Carson Wentz as the exception. Yeah, but he came in late. He came in late, right? But it seemed like they were going out of their way to gas up JJ, being like, you're a guy. But at the same time, they were flirting with Aaron Rodgers. So how serious was it with Aaron and how close did he get? I can tell you read my stuff. I read some of your stuff. I don't know. I'm sure. Before you developed the anti-Jaden bias. That's not true. I have never written about that. You have a Jaden bias. You hate the guy. It's fine. Never mind. I was about to say something. I'm not going to take that. So I agree with you. Well, you agree with your column. I agree with my reporting. No, I noticed it actually just observing it. It was no reporting. I was like, why is everyone going so hard on this quarterback that we don't know anything about? And, you know, it turns out that I actually understand what the organization was doing. They were trying to build his confidence up because this team did win 14 games the year before, you know. And I do think the building loves Sam Darnold. So to have to manage that emotionally for a young guy coming off an injury, I think Kevin's thought was let's give them as much support as we can. But what happened, unfortunately, I think it bit them in the butt a bit because they almost overstated his ability. I remember Justin Jefferson during camp. It's almost like he slipped and went off script instead of being like, he's the guy, he's awesome out there. Because remember they just kept saying how good he was in practice. he was like, I mean, it's a work in progress. It's going to take time. He's still really young. I was like, finally, someone's saying the truth. So look, I think they learned a lot about J.J. McCarthy in the offseason and then how to make a decision as a team. All right, we let Sam go. We let Daniel Jones go. And when I say we let them go, other teams obviously came in and paid them more money. And they didn't want to invest that much. And they believed in J.J. The Aaron Rodgers thought was, can maybe Aaron Rodgers come in and help J.J. McCarthy develop as well as a quarterback? Because Aaron, as you've seen now in the final years of his career, I think he's done a really good job with his teammates of being a bit of the mentor. So I think that was the thought. And then they pulled the plug on that. Is J.J. McCarthy Kevin O'Connell's guy? What's the closest thing to the truth to how this all went down? It's the hardest thing to figure out because when I've worked on this story with Alec Lewis, our Vikings reporter, we've shared notes on it. And it's unbelievable how many different answers we've received from. Because there's a lot of. I bet you if he panned out, every single person would be raising their hand. Sure. You know, be like. It's the old like victory has a thousand sons and. Yes. And defeat is an orphan or whatever. Yep. But look, you have a coach that was coach of the year and has developed veteran quarterbacks very well. I have a hard time believing that he sat in a draft room and had no say on who the quarterback was going to be. Like that's just like so much of this is common sense. Like even like sometimes when PFT like texts me questions, I'm like, you're so dumb. Like just use like it doesn't you don't have to be a journalist. like it's just it's right in front of you I'm so dumb but like even I read your column too much you're such a mimbo you're like no one ever calls you dumb but sometimes your stuff is your questions about I get most colored glasses sometimes yes you do your questions about football get bizarre if they started like assigning whose draft pick it was like when they pick it's like this scout that was his like Terry Pagula did yeah right he was like you know he said that Brandon didn't Brandon didn't It was something like that. Yeah, Kieran Coleman. That was bad. Yeah, that was really bad. I mean, sometimes you can't assign... That broke code. Like, you don't... Yeah. It's tough to assign blame to a GM if he's having kids all the time. He's never in the office because he's taking paternity leave. Right? That story was wild. That is not what the story was. The story was about... The story was that Kwesi had sex, which is against the rules for the Vikings. And then during training camp, he wasn't there and that pissed everybody off. You're like an aggregator as a podcaster. Yeah, yeah. No, I'm being dove climbing in real life. It's ridiculous. I know, and the Vikings fan base has a lot of aggregators. There's a lot of them that do it. Yeah. And it's funny, like half of them will always give me the benefit of the doubt and read what I'm reporting and then reflect that, and then the other just, they're doing what you do. They just immediately go to the false part of it or just try to make it up so it makes me look bad. um no the queasy thing was like the first of all the paternity thing was like the worst kept secret in football and i would argue that i dropped the ball by never putting that out there all these years like i should have probably just mentioned it one day like this is interesting i don't you know in a casual conversation about i've never seen this before but a general manager has taken paternity leave twice like this is crazy like great cool um but i included it in the article about his firing to point to the fact that he was unique and he did manage differently than other general managers in football before him um but you picked up the paternity thing and you guys made it a whole big thing that if you want to spend time with your kids and you're a bad coach a bad general manager and and thank you i think we just said yeah you need to either uh hire a gay general manager would be great or get a vasectomy before you work for my team if i'm an owner just do it the combine yeah that's a that's a great idea like have a snipping room back there yeah uh but yeah no i i think that it was interesting the article about quasi because everybody was kind of shocked because he just got an extension a year before right and then it seemed to anybody with an actual brain like this is very much tied in with the quarterback decision is that how quickly it happens it's like you you whiff on a quarterback or you appear to whiff on a quarterback while the old guy has so much success and it's like that's it we're done with you i don't think that the Vikings fired Quacey because of JJ McCarthy that or because of the quarterback situation because he had to manage all of that right because those are all those contracts with whether it was Daniel Jones or Sam Darnold he obviously was part of it it was because the kids he was a thousand percent because he was home you know helping his his wife change diapers no um I think there was a lot of um internal relationships I like him and Kevin O'Connell get along great like that was the one I don't think I even observed it when I would go to their practices. They were cool with each other. But I do think the way he manages is just different from what most coaches are used to. And it's hard. And if it works, great. But most of the time in football, guys like to do it the old way. And the way they know. And the way they're comfortable. And you look at that coaching staff, where most of them come from, it doesn't really line up with where Queasy comes from. Right. Who of the new hires where you say, like, you talk around the league and everyone's like, they nailed that. Like, this is going to be big. Jesse Minter. Okay. That's the one. I like that. I hear that a lot of just, man, they got a winner. I'd say the Eagles OC. Just kidding, Max. Oh. Oh, God. I like you again. You're the best. You're the best. I love you, Diana. He's fist-thumping off screen. I'm totally kidding. No, I don't know. I don't even know. Max honestly gave you one of these. Yes. I don't even know the truth. Here's what I do know about him. The second it happened, I had some people in Philly on the team call me. It was like, hey, what's the deal with this guy? Is he good? What do we know about him? And I was like, let me go dig on it. So I called around and I heard amazing things about him. And then the players heard about it. And so now everyone's all in on this guy. So I'm excited to see what this is going to be like. Everyone's all in. What about David Blau? A lot of people talking about the Blauer movement. you locked him up fast yeah the blower people so fast were you surprised about the cliff situation blower power i was not surprised about the cliff situation yeah i remember you texting me about it i think yeah really annoying you were you were surprised that i wasn't surprised no i'm hoping for more surprise for me i told you before i broke it i said cliff's getting fired and you're like what that's not this is not true what happened i need to know everything we can apparently just lie on podcast now and that's the thing i'm gonna look it up and i'm gonna tell you exactly what the reaction was text off your phone because it's from max no it's me texting about max so i like this i'm enjoying this very much because i i i like to hear the news just when it happens i don't like to like when i get inside yeah i don't really want to know you yeah there was something i told you and your reaction wasn't like eric's whereas he's just like i was just like i don't want to know i don't know yet i need to know send me voicemails like anything again i don't want to know if i know too much then it's like a bad thing where i just i can't sit on it and also I just want to know what everyone else knows. This is a wild misinterpretation of all our conversations. By the way, the fact that you're... The Cliff thing happened early January. That's where I'm at right now. Okay, hang on. I'll ask a filler question while you do it, okay? Who'd you vote for in MVP? Was it Josh Allen again? Drake May. Okay. Oh, did you see... I didn't vote for Josh Allen last year. Well, last year. You didn't. That's right. You voted for Lamar. That was the problem. Remember what happened? I forgot why I was mad at you. Did I tell you the story about that? No. So. Yeah, you voted for Lamar. I see Josh. I see Brandon Bean. I see all the Buffalo people before I cast my vote. I tell them I'm voting for Josh. Oh. Right? That's dirty. Then I vote and I was going through it and I have a weird style of doing it. I call players. Okay. And I ask them, like I tell them who I'm voting for and then I get their reaction. And then I kind of collect all their thoughts because in my opinion, the players know better than me. Who is the best player on the field when you're playing against them? Actually, the answer I got the most and I regret not voting it. And he and I have had a conversation about this and Max Hill appreciated it. It was Saquon Barkley. This was last year. The year they won the Super Bowl. Everyone was like so many players like it's Saquon Barkley, but I did not vote for him. I voted for Lamar. so then they revealed the votes and who we voted for so i just look like an ass because i'm like i obviously lied to josh allen yeah you do look like i know so but you did also vote for shuck for rookie of the year which i appreciate yeah that was good do you remember in the draft when i told you that he's like a stud like he's gonna be really good yeah yeah you're right again one thing we didn't we didn't listen to you are you listening to this as men we didn't listen to you and we came to that conclusion on our own about six months later. And by the way. We were like, that was our idea. Tyler Shock. Good job. We were right. We were so right about it. We fucking nailed that. Tyler Shock. All right. One thing you were wrong about, Monday, January 5th, 8.32 p.m., you just texted me out of the blue, I'm shocked you haven't asked me about my Cliff Kingsbury reporting. Okay. No way. I told you the night before I broke it. No, there's nothing there. You said, I'm shocked. It's a little thirsty that you're asking me to be shocked about something that I was not shocked about. But I wasn't shocked about it because I was okay with moving on from Cliff. It felt like things were kind of like, you know. Yeah, it was off. It was weird. Things were off. The way that he was using Terry didn't seem like it was always the most creative ways. There were button heads sometimes with, I don't want to say the GM and him were butting heads, but they didn't have the best things to say about each other. Usually if you have a great young offensive coordinator, number one, you would like that person to be in demand to be a head coach from some other team, right? Yeah. So it kind of says a lot that Cliff didn't get that opportunity. I thought he was a good offensive coordinator, just not a great one. Yeah. No, and now he's with the Rams, so we'll see how he does there. I also just think what they captured in the year that they went to the NFC Championship game, I think Cliff actually did a really good job of masking a lot of the flaws your team had. and obviously your your quarterback was also like a superhero no it was a shot at the entire roster which I agree was that a shot about Jaden? no not at all I love Jaden I found where I opted out of getting news from you it's because you said that Ben Johnson was going to the Jaguars I literally was like I'm opting out I was like I want no more updates from you I think it was a Saturday morning yeah i was like i do not want i'm opting out of this news source i do not want bad news because you know what happens too it's probably why i tell you guys stuff is because i can't report it i want to tell someone right right and i'm like who would appreciate it oh yeah these guys except what is bad news i don't want it and we we actually will never tell your bad news because we'll just forget it right i think we forget most of the stuff people tell us so it's not like We have a big file of off the record stuff that we can divulge. I think the last time I texted you about a story that I knew you would like, because it was so weird was when I did the, the Mac Jones body story. Yeah. The Mac Jones dead body. Yeah. That was the weirdest thing. So how really like that just never had a followup. How did you find out? Nobody cared. I was like, this is kind of, they just want to see him eat bananas. He eats so many bananas. It was after that game. Yeah, I know. It was the Thursday. It was like dead body, bananas, bananas. It's all good. you know somebody like tipped me off on it was like you want to hear a weird story I'm like yeah he's like Mac Jones saw a dead body this morning and I'm like what? The substation claimed another yeah so it was a Friday morning and I probably spent more time on that story than anything else I've done this year which is ridiculous because it's a body it's a human so I have to go confirm that it was A a body so I'm on the phone with the you know Marina Del Rey police and they're like wait who are you why do you care i'm like well the san francisco 49ers at the hotel there's a body just and they had no record of it was a it was a mess see that's where you go wrong with like the athletic and scoop city you should have just spent 20 minutes talking about mac jones eating bananas on your podcast that's what we did there are times um where it was 14 by the way i have a big story but i know it's gonna take so much time and effort yeah to to pull it in and sometimes I just get lazy. I'm like, I don't want to do it. Right. Especially if it's like, you're like, no one's going to care about this story. Well, most of those I know are good. Like any big story I've ever worked on usually takes time and you know, at the end it's worth it all. But when you first, it's like getting an assignment, you're like, I'm going to have to make so many calls and deal with so many annoying agents and fight with head coaches about the stuff I'm going to put out. It's going to be rewarding, but this is going to suck. But climbing back up the mountain sucks it sucks because it's taking phone calls in my driveway yeah you know it's it's it's always at weird places like when when thank you for your service you're welcome first amendment's important i know i do sound like i'm like poor me no i have to work like there's obviously we we joke about it because there's definitely some times where you're like there there are some sports journalists who come across as like dude come on you're you're covering sports but you have to wrap all these people who do this business like we would be screwed without reporters beat reporters i always tell the beat reporters like you guys don't get thanked enough because being in a locker room every single day and getting the vibes of a team if they if there weren't beat reporters we would have just so much less information on how a team operates yeah but the other part of it is it's like a marriage for these people they're stuck with these guys every day seeing them and looking at them it gets so old so quick that's where i always feel for them like oh man it's january they're still going to practice on a thursday oh that's the worst yeah like zach rosenblatt who covers the jets like i i just feel for him yeah towards the end of the year where i'm like hey dude you got you know two more weeks you can do it you said about the jets uh in their hiring and firings in the offseason what a mess was your quote and then uh memes posted a gif of lebron James giving you the finger. I didn't see that. Oh, no. I think I did see that. I did see that. Do you have that meme on you now, memes? I remember where I was actually when I saw it. So is it as much of a mess as you said when you said, quote, what a mess? No, I said what a mess. I think the reason why it caught memes attention, obviously, is the Jets, but I don't usually weigh in on the situation. I give you the information. but at this point I had known how ridiculous it was behind the scenes in terms of not telling guys when they're getting fired not allowing them to go get jobs and then changing their minds on who they were going to hire based on ownership and and the head coach's difference it's just the whole thing so I'm like this is just a mess what a mess so memes is at the microphone right now I think he'd like to address you uh i would say that we just found out everybody found out at the same time because nobody had any sources inside the building oh yeah memes thinks you've lost all your sources no they're better than ever they're oh the messier the better like the the bad teams are the ones that have the leaks max make sure to get hank in the shot okay okay go ahead go ahead Looks like he's proposing. Hank's not a troll. Yeah, Memes is convinced that you lost all your sources. No. Was the Gruden thing real? Yes. Wow. You want to elaborate the Gruden thing? He said not interested, and then the next day Gruden said, I don't know who reported that. And what? I never said that. Man. Give some context to Memes. What were they asking him? You're doing a very bad job of explaining this. If the Jets offered him a job. Okay. Yeah. So the Jets did offer him a job? Yeah. No, no, no. They talked to him about the job. He said not interested. Yeah, he was not interested. Okay. So what's the dispute here? What's the problem? It was reported that he was offered a job. Was it reported that he was offered the job or that they talked to him about a job? They talked to him about a job. What's the fucking difference? There's a big difference. There's a big difference. It's the same thing. No, no. As Max, they went through 17 interviews for their OC. Yeah. 17. 17. Wait, are you serious? The Eagles interviewed 17 guys? That's crazy. That's a lot. Did you know that, Max? So Mannion's their 17th choice? Max, did you know that? No, no, no. He was like... Wait, no, no. Switch. Means and Max. Wait, Mannion 18th choice or 17th choice? He was... Just because it was 17 interviews doesn't mean that it was 17th choice. No. He was like 6th, actually. Okay, there we go. Oh, okay. That's pretty good. So they just wanted... But they didn't like the other interviews. So he was 6th, but they wanted to do 11 more interviews to make sure he wasn't the guy? Well, this is always what happens. Look at Tennessee, right? everyone thought Matt Nagy was getting the job. Right. In fact, my colleague, Mike Silver, he calls me one day, he's like, what are you working on? I'm like, oh, I'm just working on the Titans head coaching search, just trying to nail down some of the guys to get on the phone with them to see how the interviews are going. He's like, oh my God, you're wasting your time. It's Matt Nagy's gig. This is such a ruse. They're just interviewing people to interview people. I'm like, no, they're not going to interview all these people if they know they have the guy. Right. And then, of course, Robert Sala comes in and closes it and gets the job. Right. And now Maggie's with the team. Hank, you go up. I got one for you. Hey, Hank. In Super Bowl week, you had the quote, people around the league view the Patriots as not that talented. Yeah. Hank? Hank? We were in the Super Bowl. Right. No, she did it Super Bowl week, so she was saying, like, they're not that talented. That's just hate us because I don't think that's Diana. She's reporting what people are saying. I think that's also maybe Mike Rabel trying to get some rat poison out there, some bulletin board material. Diana, I don't have you muted, unlike some other people on this show. Thanks, Hank. I appreciate that. I think the reporting I do on the Patriots is solid, and I try to keep it as objective as I can. And they don't have leaks because they're good. So are they not that talented? I don't think they have a great roster. I think they're going to get better, but they play in the Super Bowl to Hank's point. How bad could they be if they got there? We made it to the Super Bowl with a bad roster. Imagine what we'll do with a good roster. Good point. Good point. I do think that this is going to be a challenging offseason for the Patriots. Because, first of all, the bar is so high now, right? Nobody expected. I thought they'd win six, seven games if this first season with Mike at the helm. But now it's they got to make a lot of moves. They need to get more. It's obvious what they need to do in terms of players. But I just think the pressure is just going to be on. And this is like a true, even though this regime was there last year, I feel like this is their first real one in this offseason coming off Super Bowl. Quick break from our interview with Diana Rossini. Talk to you about McDonald's. 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I mean, you could do like the Jaguars or... Oh, yeah. Was it Jaguars? Yes. Liam Cohn? Liam Cohn's a great coach. Great coach. Okay, all right. Thank you, Stephen. I agree. Yeah. All right. Wait, what's your question? He was mad that Liam Cohen left the box. Do you have a question, Stephen? I do. I have one very... Kate, are you ready to be next? I have one very biased question, and then I have a general question. Very biased question. Where's Mike Evans playing next year? Ooh. Tampa Bay. That's not a biased question, by the way. That's a biased question. No, that's just a question. He wanted music to his ears. Yeah, he wanted a biased answer. He wanted a biased answer. The question is just the question. Okay, fair, fair, fair. What is the confidence level of these teams at quarterback? Rank them one to four. He's producing a segment. Four being the highest, one being the lowest. Wait. Hang on, hang on. Okay, hold on. Does he know I'm home? On a scale of one to four? Can we go one to four the natural way? One being the highest? Okay. Why is it one to four? I only have four options. Oh, you're ranking the teams. Yeah, he's ranking the – So this is the – Can you translate? This is the team's confidence in their quarterback. Yes. One to four, one being the best. Yes. Why would you do four being the best? Cardinals, Falcons, Panthers, Texans. Okay. Texans, one, most confidence. Okay. Panthers, two. What were the other two? Falcons and Cardinals. Oh, then Falcons and then Cardinals. Cardinals. Interesting. Yeah, it is interesting that – I didn't like that game. That was hard. He made a face when he said the Texans. Yeah. He made a face. I think the face, if I could translate the face that Shane made, it was like, little bro ass. Yeah, do the Texans know C.J. Stroud's ass? I don't think C.J. Stroud is ass, and I don't think they think he is. I think they still believe him. I think this year is going to be really important, you know, because he's going to be up for a very large contract. but why are we forgetting that C.J. Stroud was once really good yeah but he's also been okay but they also have a weak offensive line new play calls there's like a lot of transition I think there needs to be a little bit more patience with C.J. Stroud what about Zach? I like Zach yeah Zach's got a question this will be good this will be good let it rip Zach what's going on Diana how are you today? quick question with the talks about how Liam Cohen left the Tampa Bay Buccaneers would you consider him A better coach or a better person? Good question. A better coach. Yeah, he's a very better coach. I mean, he's a better coach, right? One of the best football coaches in the world. Yeah. Thank you for your time. I appreciate you. Thanks, Zach. Good question. Good question. I rest my case. Way to go, Zach. Real quick with the Cardinals. Kyler probably not going to be the quarterback there next year. Do you think Kyler Murray, gun to your head, is he starting week one somewhere? Yeah, I do. Where? Who would be in the Kyler Murray sweepstakes? I'm curious to see if Minnesota checks that out. That could be interesting, right? He looks so short and purple. Are the Cardinals going to trade for Tyson Pagin? That's the rumor. Who told you that? I've just been hearing it. Why? I'll work on it. I'll let you. Oh, I can't let you know. You don't want to know. No, I don't want to know. I don't want to know. Max, you have another question? Oh. Yeah, well, that reminded me. I saw something about the Jets are interested in Tanner McKee. Oh. This is great. We just have to ask our very hyper-specific questions about our backup quarterbacks. Yes, I actually think that's something they're going to be exploring. So that's a good question. Memes? What are the chances Nick Sirianni gets fired this year? Good one. Oh, so I see what they're doing. They're giving shitty questions for each of their teams. I think this is a big year for Nick Sirianni. Is there a hot seat? I'm not doing the hot seat. Who does the captions on the show? You don't. Memes do not put out Rossini says Nick Sirianni hot seat 2026. It's a big year. It's a big. The seat's warm? Could you say the seat's warm? Yeah. How could it not be? It's Philly. The seat's warm. It's always freaking warm there. Always sunny. What do you say? I'm not putting him on the hot seat. No, Max. Respectfully, this is about the answer for you. Max, I've never asked you this. Do you think Nick's a good coach? Yes. Excellent coach. No, just making sure. Excellent. Super Bowl winning coach. Okay. Highest winning percentage of all active coaches right now. How are you going to feel if A.J. Brown gets traded? Like, how does that make you feel? Are you mad about this? Depends on the package. Oh, okay. So you're cool with him not being an Eagle anymore. I would prefer him to be an Eagle, but I think that there's – I also understand that there's times where it's better for both sides. Yeah, what I said before. It's like this relationship is probably done. They probably need to go – Best case scenario, we mend the relationship, but if that can't be mended, I'm okay with it. I'm okay with him. Stay there, Max. Do you have any concerns about your quarterback? Well, I was going to say, is there a world, Diana, that they trade A.J. Brown and then they're like, whoops, we traded the wrong guy. It should have been Jalen Hurts. I thought you were going to say, is there a world where they trade A.J. Brown and then bring him back when they get rid of Jalen? No. That's a good question, too. Let's wait for whatever. Max is pretending there's sound going on in the hallway because he doesn't like the way these questions are going. Yeah. He just did a fake pause of the show. I think the A.J. Brown situation, the thing that we're not doing enough of, and Max, I'm surprised you haven't tried to dig on it as a fan. What is A.J. Brown frustrated by? What is he upset? And why is anyone having that conversation and being real about it? Good question. Because I think the answer is one they don't want to have. so you would rather your team ignore a problem because they don't want to i don't understand how it could be that big of a problem when it wasn't a problem the year before when they were the fucking super you said you weren't getting mad anymore i'm not mad but i don't understand how it's that big of a problem when they just won a super bowl and they were there two years before how all of a sudden is it now a problem sometimes when quarterbacks win super bowls they they develop a bigger ego and they don't want to run the same plays that they maybe ran before or do the same type of offense or listen the same guys that they were listening to before because now they've got all figured out first of all the offensive line the year you won the super bowl was magnificent saquon had the best season of his life jalen played incredible in the super bowl everything lined up well right so then and by the way i'm not pushing back on your hopes and dreams that that I believe Jalen is a really good quarterback. I just think if your best weapon on offense, not including Saquon, is voicing concern about something, maybe there's more there that they're not owning up to, that they need to. Everyone's talking about it. The entire world's talking about it. Everyone likes to say this is some big secret that Jalen Hurts and the Eagles are not in a good spot. and everyone talks about it. It's not a big secret. So it's there, but how is it going to get fixed? Coaching. I have an idea. We've got to have a new offensive coordinator that can bring everyone together. I have an idea. There was a time where Jalen Hurts was struggling at quarterback and the team went in a different direction and brought in Tua and they proceeded to win a championship. Is another team going to look at Tua this offseason? Is Tua going to be traded? Yeah, I think there's going to be teams looking at him. I don't think – look, I think the Dolphins have made it pretty clear that it's on the table, that they're going to probably move forward without him in some form. But we've seen how many quarterbacks in football in the last few years have a resurgence in a different program. Literally, that has been the story of last year, whether it was Daniel Jones before his injury, the guy that just won the freaking Super Bowl. if you can just put them with the right team the the right organization sometimes it can pan out what about a percentage uh give me a percentage i'm not going to hold you to this joe burrow gets traded because there are at least some rumors out there well it's because because joe's not happy and we know that and when i say he's not happy he's frustrated that they stink right and that they're they're not doing enough to improve the roster and the The pushback is, well, look, they paid his receivers. What could he possibly be upset about? The defense has been trashed for a few years here. Yeah. So I don't believe the Cincinnati Bengals are going to trade Joe Burrow. What I want to pay attention to, though, is after this season, will Joe then start voicing, look, I don't want to be here anymore because we're not winning. Right. Because talk about his prime years, the window's closing there. Yeah. How old's Joe? He's like, what, probably late 20s? Yeah, I want to say like 27. I'm going to look it up right now. I'm going to say 28. 26, 27? Because he was obviously older when he won the Heisman and everything. He does have the maturity of like a 40-year-old, though. He's 29. Yeah. He's 29. So he's going to turn 30 this season. Oh, my God. How was Josh Allen? Josh Allen, I think, just turned 30. See? I would have thought Josh was older. Well, he is because 30 is more than 29. Thanks. Yeah. Good point. What are you hearing about Joe Brady? Joe Brady? Oh, actually, Josh Allen's 29. Oh, he didn't even care. Yeah, yeah. So they're the same age. Same age, yeah. Good point. Both 96, yeah. Yeah. What are you hearing about Joe Brady and the Bills? What was the coaching search really like for Buffalo? Was it just, hey, we'll interview some people, but it's ultimately going to be Josh's call? What about when Phillip Rivers went in there? Yeah, Phillip Rivers. Wild, right? He will be a coach one day, right? Yeah. High school. Well, we were saying Jason Fitz had the idea, but we were joking about it. There should be a loony rule that every team has to bring in just a crazy off the wall. Like a Condoleezza Rice kind of? Yeah, right. You just have to do that just so that we have something to talk about. Story is not talked enough about. Yeah. Yeah. Agreed. It is my, like, I remember. Yeah. Agreed. It's the best news story. Actually, make that your first question to Schefter. Oh, it always is. What's up with Connor? It's that and the where's the Des Bryant tape. We need to see the Des Bryant. Yeah. But wait, wait. So what was that process like with Joe Bryant? Did they actually interview a bunch of people or was it like, Josh, who do you want? The backstory I heard was they weren't completely out on firing McDermott. It wasn't like they said, if we don't make the playoffs, he's out. Or if we get bounced in this round, he's out. If anything, it was kind of pointing the direction of keeping him. So actually the Saturday before they lost was the first time I caught wind that if they lost, he was out. Like, and they had made that decision pretty, like, within those days. It wasn't, like, something they were sitting on. Right? So, they obviously lose. They fire Sean. And I do think it was a bit of a shock to the system up there because they weren't ready for it. So then they were scrambling around trying to figure out all right we got to get the remember then they had the press conference which was not great Which actually made us give more credit to Sean McDermott Because you like wow he really Yeah, good job, Sean. Yeah, he was the one running the show the right way. Yeah, the mistake they, the mistake I think they did in that, well, there's a lot of mistakes they did in that press conference, but they probably should not have had the owner sit with the GM. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Especially a GM that that was getting crucified at the moment for keeping his job. And then they put out at the same time that didn't they put out the same time that they fired Sean and promoted Brandon? Yeah. It was like one had nothing to do with separate those. Right. Yeah. Wait a day. And I like being a lot. I feel like he's done a pretty good job. But whenever you know, if if you miss on a pick, it doesn't help your case to have your owner sitting there like saying to reporters. Now, be nice to him. This wasn't his idea. It puts off a weird vibe and it makes me think that, like, number one, I want to hear more owners talk to the media. But number two, they shouldn't. Like, if they were smart, they would never talk to the media. I have a group chat with Jeff Darlington and Mike Silver where the only discussions that we have in this chat are about the PR that we would recommend to teams. Like, a player or an organization. Someone that does something stupid and then obviously the team reacts to it and it's usually stupid. Yeah. And then we will be like, they should have done it this way. You could do that every day on this show if you really wanted to. Yeah, that's probably not the best way to do it. That's a good segment. PR 101. We can call it PR 101. It's a good idea. We've been doing it for 10 years. Okay, so what do you tell Puka Nakua? He does a live stream. You swear you do this? What's your PR? We stopped doing this segment, but yeah, that was the old segment. Maybe change the title. Just bring it back. Yeah, PR 101. We might bring it back. Any surprises this week? No. I mean, what do you mean surprise? I just want you to break, give us a scoop. Can you give us a scoop and we'll bleep it out? And then if you get it right, we'll retract the bleep in a video that we put out later. Whoa. Okay. We will bleep that out until she gets it right. Oh, my God. And then we'll put it out. Yeah. There was another question I was going to ask you about the comment. Are there teams, since you talk to everybody. You guys have never asked me this many questions. Yeah, we're having fun. You want to hear a good question? We're having fun. I've asked you a lot of questions in my life. I don't think I've ever asked you about this, though. Are there teams that are just like, that are annoying and thirsty? That like hit you up and they're like, hey, I've got some more information. Like trying to give you, overload you with information to make you like them? Yes. Every team operates very differently. That's what's funny about it all. They all have like our own style of how they manage the reporters and the insiders and how they want their message out and who they give it to. Like you don't have to know football that well to know which teams like to go to who to be their mouthpiece on stuff. Right. Like you can see it. Like it makes. Traeger in the Rams. He doesn't even break Rams stuff. That's why I'm always like Traeger. Like you know everyone there. Like you should just. He's that close. He's part of the Rams. He's probably making the decision. So he couldn't really break the news. He's like sitting there doing it all. But that's, Shrink is probably a great example of where you're too close to it. Yeah. Right? Like, I've had that problem before where, you know, you get close to a player or an agent and then you're like, oh, wait, I'm not going to report that because, like, I don't want to make it weird because, you know, it's kind of like how we started this conversation about the boundaries of what you can go with. um but when i come to the combine my thing is like i always like kind of think of like three or four people in football who i don't know that i need to know and just try to find ways to either find them or just kind of break the ice with them and so last night i was practicing my breaking the ice routines with some people in football because i was sharing the same story to them i'm like hey i gotta go see this guy what should i talk about and someone suggested i just start telling jokes yeah but i i realized i am not a good joke teller tell us a joke make us laugh wait who are you trying to break the ice with this is important well okay i'll be mike mccarthy oh that's a good one you don't have a neck my new quarterback will hard i mean it i only know dirty ones yeah go ahead tell us a joke yeah you can tell a dirty joke okay so this guy walks into a bar with a penguin and a bat and he sits at the bar and he asks the bartender for four shots takes four shots takes the bat starts beating the penguin and the penguin starts going down on him goes up to the bartender it's funny just you know goes up to the bartender says can i get four more shots guy's like all right and everyone in the bar is looking around like what what is going on here he takes four shots does it again takes the bat starts hitting the penguin penguin goes down on the guy again everyone's like what this is weird what is happening disgusting so then the bartender was like hey man i'm gonna do some shots with you he's like all right so he does four shots he's like all right my turn's next just don't hit me so hard with the bat i like that okay that was a good joke but i i did it probably eight times and i kept forgetting the hook it was so everyone's like you're awful at that like there's like six people watching me yeah yeah it's a long joke it's a long joke it's not very good it's disgusting it's got penguins sucking people off it's really bad and i should probably cut alcoholism for the new york time yeah bird sex yeah but i think it's appropriate and penguins are also going extinct this whole thing is bad now you're sexually assaulting them all of this yeah and cut it please cut this it's so annoying um there is a reality though like it is awkward sometimes to go up to people in football that that you don't know and just be like hey because you're like you probably know who i am but i still have to do the song and dance of hey i'm diana you know they know who you are yes and it's funny because that conversation came out last night because one of the coaches was like why do you always introduce yourself as a reporter right everyone gets it and i'm like i understand but i think it's very presumptuous of me if taylor swift introduces herself as freaking Taylor Swift, but I guess she doesn't say singer. No. So, but, but yeah, always trying to like come up with ways to connect with people in it's, it's sales. It's like, how can I, it's in, I know you guys do it too. It's like, how can I get this person engaged in what I have to say in two seconds? And I strike out a lot. Yeah. Okay. Last question. This has been awesome. We love having you on Diana. Rowback question, RHOBACK.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, Roback.com. Button-ups too. Look at the new button-ups. Yeah, the button-ups are awesome. Roback.com, promo code TAKE. This actually isn't a question. I just wanted to say I am very happy for you because it feels like your jump from ESPN to Athletic has worked out better than you could ever have imagined. Well, first of all, happy anniversary to you guys. Thank you. More importantly, it's tremendous. I can't believe. Yep, the sex is still great. This is crazy. It is crazy. How did this thing get so big? We're never going to stop. It's kind of stupid when you think about it. We just started doing a podcast, and then our lives changed. And the craziest part to me is that there's no reason for us to stop, so we're just going to do it until we're just a punchline, which I'm fine with. I know, but you guys work really hard at it, and the best part of the show outside of you guys and the team, it's actually your listeners. I love the part of my take of listeners. They're loyal as all hell. I was in the pool on vacation, and my husband went and got me a drink, And the guy next to me was like, hey, is that Kevin from part of my take? I go, wait, no, no. Wait, like, do you mean Max? He's like, no, Kevin, that's your husband, right? I'm like, yeah. So Kev comes back over. I was like, dude, that part of my take listener was more excited than he was you. That's awesome. Kevin from part of my take. You just did a very good job of reversing a compliment into a compliment for us. That was nice. But seriously, Scoop City going to three times a week feels like it's getting bigger. Also, half the listeners are female. So what's up to them? If any of them are listening to us right now. But it's awesome. I know that was when you were going through that. It's a daunting and kind of scary thing to be like, ESPN is ESPN. And you made the jump and it feels like you're just crushing it. Thank you. I hope, I know you were talking before about it's not that serious. I always hope that that's how my vibe is as a reporter. I know what I report is serious sometimes, but I freaking love it. And that's you guys. I think we do different things, but we have so much love for what it is, which is why I think we've been doing it so long. Yeah, but to Big Cat's point, I know that there's a lot of people that don't leave. They never leave ESPN because they think to themselves, this is safe. It's secure. This is sports. If I leave that on my own, I don't have the mouthpiece of the Disney network behind me. And it's a scary thing to do. You left. Now, I don't know what your contract situation is, But I would assume that whenever it's up, ESPN would probably pay like double what they were offering before after you left. Let us negotiate for you. You did a really smart business move by meeting, growing your brand, growing your profile to now like you have the power to be like, I don't even need to go back to ESPN ever. I'm doing great out here on my own. I don't know about that. Yeah, I've been at The Athletic. This is my third season. So it went fast. And I remember making that decision. And I did think everything you just said. You guys are obviously my friends and you knew it was a big decision because it's scary. But when you just go back to the basic of just do what you do well, you can do anything. Not to sound all motivational and inspirational, but if you're good at it and you work hard at it, you can find success. Someone is going to hire you if you are doing it. And I would probably be a big star if memes didn't tell the world I was a bad reporter. I'd probably be, I would probably be back at ESPN with Schefter, but he's destroyed my credibility. He's happy that you said that. You're good. And also congratulations on hopefully becoming a New York Times bestselling author because you wrote a chapter in our book. Yeah. I did. Which is going to be coming out. And I don't want to spoil anything, but I learned something from reading what you wrote in that book. What do you want? Are we allowed to give this away? No, no spoilers. We're going to try some books. Yeah, no spoilers. Go on Amazon. But one of your children should be named after me. You think so? Based on what she wrote, yes. Oh, I know what you're talking about. Yeah. But you know my kids' names are like basic Jersey kid names. I can't. Eric doesn't really. Maybe middle name. PFT. Yeah, it should have been a PFT middle name. Yeah. You can pronounce it like that. No, it doesn't work. It's a sound. Okay. All right, Diana, you're the best. Everyone subscribe to Scoop City and read The Athletic and read Diana's reporting. Thanks, guys. Yeah. Good to be here. Rossini was brought to you by our great friends over at Morgan & Morgan. A lot of power moves going on recently. When Big Dom came in here, that was a power move. When Max left, that was not a power move. When Zach stood up to Big Dom, that was a power move. Just like how hiring Morgan & Morgan is a power move too. Morgan & Morgan is America's largest injury law firm. If Hank had to get his jaw wired shut, the first call he is making is to our good friends at Morgan & Morgan. They have over 100 offices nationwide, more than 1,000 lawyers. Over $30 billion were covered for over 500,000 clients. 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Bill Walton doing cross-country skiing would have been the best thing ever. Yeah, I could see Charles Barkley filling in on just about anything. Yeah, although people would be pissed because he just makes fun of all the athletes, which I would have loved. Which is fine. Yeah, totally fine. Totally fine. But yeah, that's a good call. We need guys like that who could just talk extemporaneously. Yeah, nailed it. Nailed it. You ever get into a word and you know you're going to go for it and you're like, oh boy, let's hope I land this one. That was actually- I need to talk to myself. That was basically me landing a sick- You did nail that. Yeah. There's a lot. I just nailed the 360 snowboard cross perfectly on my feet. Something spoken, performed, or composed with little or no advanced preparation. Damn. Mm-hmm. Damn, that feels good. I'm going to walk around with my chest puffed out for the rest of the day. Does that make temporaneously something that is performed with a lot of advanced preparation? Maybe. No, you don't really hear about temporaneously. No. Is that a word? Well, extemporaneously, I think. Temporaneous is an archaic or rare adjective meaning temporary, lasting only for a short time, or provisional. Oh, rare adjective collected. I love provisionals. One of one. I take a lot of provisionals. Hey, boys. Golf course. Isn't that what you say? Yeah. Speaking of golf course. What? What, Max? I actually think you guys are in a good spot. We were doing some testing for the screen. Didn't go well. I actually, it went better than I thought. Tickly golf? What is better than you thought? Itchy golf. Itchy golf. What's better than you thought? I thought they had no chance, and Max was being a little bit cocky. I now think they will do it eventually. Well, we're doing a... It has now turned into one of us to get a birdie. We're doing a scramble to get a birdie. Yeah, okay. Because... You guys will get a birdie. Yeah, with a scramble? We're not very good golfers. No. I can't even close my eyes and see Zach. I just had. All I can see is Zach throwing the ball into the bush and then Hank being so upset at him. That's my experience with Zach and golf. I forgot about that. Oh, the best throw ever. What did you do? There were six different people saying directions on one shot. There was only one. That was bad. You kind of did a mix of everybody's direction. Yeah. So satisfied none of the directions. Yeah. But I think Max can sack up. He can hit far drives, get lucky with an iron shot, and then I think Zach could hit a putt potentially. I think one of the two of you could hit a decent shot on a par three, and then he got two chances to putt. See, Hank keeps saying par three. I can't hit an iron. So I keep saying par five is my best shot. You would have to hit at least like two or three good shots. Yeah. Par three is the best shot. But again, it was. Which is why some are saying that getting an eagle on a par five is harder than getting a hole-in-one on a par three. A lot of people say that. Do they? Yeah. We'll see. We'll see. It's going to be... I hope it's... We'll see. We'll see. You will see. Hey, boys. My boyfriend and I have been dating for four years, and just recently he has really gotten into chick flicks from the 2000s. Almost watching one movie a night. More specifically, ones with Matthew McConaughey. Should I be worried, he may dump me and come out of the closet. Not that there's anything wrong with being gay. Just didn't see it coming from my boyfriend. No. Chick flicks are great. Liking chick flicks is wrong or gay. Yeah. Yeah. Then I'm gay. Yeah. Consider me really, really gay. Don't clip it. Memes is just sitting there laughing. All three of us just box ourselves in for a long time in the memes files. If watching Love Actually twice a year is homosexual, then I am the biggest gay person on planet Earth. On my Netflix for you, it's basically all rom-coms. They're the best. Before I go to bed, I like to watch something light. Yeah. And rom-coms are the best thing to watch right before you go to bed. And I watch them before I go to bed every night. So Netflix basically assumes that I'm just 100% rom-com guy. You just turn your brain off. You enjoy it. Fool's Gold? Is that what it's called? Fool's Gold for sure on there. Does it have to end well, though? Does it always have to have a good ending? No. It doesn't even have to be a good movie. It just has to make you feel good. I love the breakup. Oh, breakup's good. Yeah. Zach said that's his one-one. We were talking about that yesterday. It was one rom-com. Breakup or 50 First Dates right there. Yeah, but breakup's funny and it's got the rom-com. Would you say The Wedding Singer? Wedding Singer's a good one. Is that a rom-com? Yeah. Or is that just a com-com? That's a com-rom. That's like Wedding Crashers is a com-rom That's a sand rom Those are good rom-coms I like bad rom-coms I like really cheesy Hallmark Street Home Alabama The other woman Kate Upton You just did breasts? Just go with it? The one with the Brooklyn Decker The boobs The chick that's got the boobs The fatty natties. The Dougie girl. The Dougie girl. Let's see. Yeah. Let's see. Being really good at technical events like figure skating is more impressive than running really fast. I'd agree with that. I'd agree with that. In a way, yes, but also. But would you rather be Usain Bolt or what's the kid's name? If you're the fastest person. The quad guy. Yeah, if you're the fastest person, that means that you're objectively faster than everybody else because everyone runs. So it's like you're dominant over more people on planet Earth. If you're the best technical figure skater, it's harder to do to learn that skill. The barrier of entry is way higher. Yeah, the barrier of entry is way higher. And you'll always have people being like, you know, if I had grown up figure skating, I'd be better. Right. You'll never hear somebody be like, you know, if I had grown up, if I had learned how to run when I was a kid, I'd be faster. But I would say this. I think getting silver or bronze in figure skating is more impressive than silver or bronze in a race. Because silver and bronze in a race is like, yeah, you just weren't the fastest. Like, there's only one fastest. But it's also judge. Like, you can always, like, figure skaters can always be like, oh, you know, Russian judges, whatever. Running is just. But if someone walked in here like, yeah, I got silver medal in the women's figure skating. I'm like, holy shit, that's impressive. Someone walked in, like, I got silver in the 100-meter dash. We're like, huh, you're not the fastest. Now, if somebody says I got silver in 100-meter dash, the correct response is, oh, man, that sucks. Yeah. I'm sorry. You're just not the fastest. Because everybody, the only sprinter, the only fast guy we know is the guy that finishes first place in the 100. Correct. It's also not fun. You're just running. Like, figure skating, if you're really good at figure skating, that would be fun. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, it would. Yes, it would. It would be fun. Not getting, like, getting good would not be fun, but once you're good, that would be fun. Yes. You just, like, sick skater? Yeah. It'd be really fun. It'd be so technical. Yeah, but you'd get to just, like, go out there and chop it up. We're talking about after you get good. Yeah. It's still so technical. Right, but that's fun. That means you could just skate. The little things, like, you could just do a twisty. It's not even that technical, and everyone would be like, whoa. I'd say the same thing about gymnastics, too. Like, gymnastics would be better than, like, running. And even if you're not on the ice, like, Alyssa Liu, She went out there and threw that first pitch, and she did the jump on the land, on grass. That was awesome. That was almost more cool than it was on ice. I'd rather be a sprinter. I just imagine. What did you say, memes? Talking to the mic. Hank, you would rather be a sprinter, but you'd rather be a sprinter so you'd be better at other sports. You'd rather have that speed for other stuff. Yeah, you're thinking about it, not just straight line running. That's boring as fuck. What do you mean? Just being fast for the sake of being fast is boring. You're thinking about how sick it would be to be fast. So like playing basketball, you'd be faster than everyone. No, you're putting words in my mouth. So you just want to go on a track and run? I would much rather be the fastest or second fastest person in the world rather than the best figure skater. Okay, but you can't use it for any other sport. Yeah. So just running fast. Yeah. You just love being out on that track. How often would you run fast? every four years. Zach just made a great point back here. What? No one goes on a date to the track. Everyone goes on a date to the ice. Yeah. Good point, Zach. Yeah, but what if someone steals your date's purse? Are you going to be man enough to then confront him? Yeah, give my head start, too. But wait, the guy steals your date's purse on a track? No, just on the sidewalk. Well, you can't use it for anything else, just for being on a track. That's the rule. You said other sports. But you're saying you want to be fast just to be a fast friend. Okay, then you can't use figure skating on a date. At an ice skating rink, you can. Yeah. Got it. If you went to a date on a track. You could do it. You could get the purse back on the track if they stayed in their lane. So yeah, we'd go to like a football game and be like, oh, watch this. Being super fast kind of peaks at like age 12. That would be kind of cool going to like a high school football game and just going down onto the track and sprinting and then having everybody that stands be like, who's that guy? That's not cool at all. Who's that guy down there? No, everyone would be like, why the fuck is that guy doing that? The best case scenario is you get caught by the freeze in a Braves game. You can't do it in your made-up rules. But if you're at a free skate and you see some guy just do a triple axel, you're like, holy shit. You can go ice skating with your friends. Just going to the track sounds lonely. Yeah, and listen, being fast would be awesome for other sports. I give you that. It would be so sick. I agree to disagree. I don't think being like, I'm a man, really good figure skater is that cool. Yeah, maybe when you put it that way. Whereas if you're like, I'm like. He's kind of made a good point there. Yeah, but I mean, if you're like, hey, I'm a man, I'm a good figure skater. Yeah, you're right. But you're probably also pretty good at hockey. But we can't do other sports. But it's on the rink. I'm now on Hank's side. You're on the rink. You're on ice. I'm now 100% on Hank's side. All he had to say was being a man, being like, I'm a good figure skater. No, you can do whatever you want on the ice rink. I liked Big Cat Max and Zach saying, why would you ever go to a track? Yeah. Yeah, never. Ever. Unless it's a horse track. The tracks suck. You could be Ashton Hall. The guy's got a bajillion followers just running fast. But then everyone's asking, like, oh, you're really fast. Why didn't you just play football? Yeah, why weren't you awesome? I guess you could say the same thing. Why didn't you play hockey? Why didn't you play hockey? Yeah. I'm on Hanks. I think the correct answer is neither one of those things is particularly cool. I disagree. Usain Bolt's a fucking man. Yeah, Usain Bolt's great. There's so many. You could name more sprinters than you could figure skaters. What if you finish like eight places? Johnny Weir. Who else? Elvis Stoico. Quag God. Tanya Harding. Tanya Harding. Not women skaters? Tanya Harding's awesome. What's the guy? Oh, no, that's Lipinski. That's a woman. Johnny Weir is the guy. Johnny Weir's the guy. Mm-hmm. And he, yeah. Chaz Michael Michaels. All I got is Alpha Stoico. Now, if you're saying Johnny Weir, he's a gay man. Now, if you're saying I'm a gay man, back to the previous question, as a figure skater, I think that would maybe rock. That'd be the best sport. Yeah. Just being like, watch me flip. Watch me flip on these in a sequined uniform. And I'll rock out. Speed could be good for, like, survival. But you can't do it unless someone steals your purse on a track. In which case, chase them down. Like an Ace Ventura. All right. Whenever my fiance goes on trips with his friends and I text him asking how it's going or ask him to call me, he just responds, send nudes with a Z. I never send them, but he still asks. Do you think he actually wants them, or is he trying to just get me to stop talking to him so he can enjoy time with the boys? I think he's probably showing off to the boys, being like, look, my old lady wants to talk about how the day's going. Look what I just wrote her. Send nudes. You also got to understand that when we're on trips with the boys and you ask for an update, there are no updates. The update is drunk again. That's it. There's no gossip. There's no tea. There's no, oh, my God, I can't believe this person. It's drunk again. Nobody did anything really kind. No. We're not making big plans. Yeah. We're just drunk again. Drunk again. Drunk again. Drunk again. Also, he probably just would like to see nudes. Yeah. You should just send for an update. You should just send a sheet that just says drunk or hungover. He just has to check which box. That's the only two states. I'm trying to think. I mean, here's a good one. Okay. To keep the Winter Olympics entertaining, we should have one random person from the crowd lose your skeleton just to see how they do compared to the pros. Yeah. That's a good point. Wait, say it again. Yans is up my ass right now. He's texting me because he says there's no chance we could make that Nathan McKinnon shot 10 times out of 10. Oh, well, guess what? We have a goal, so we can try it. Yeah. Memes already did it. Yeah. Did he make it? And he's saying it was a one-timer, but he didn't. Didn't he? I understand a one-timer, but he wasn't. I would make it 10 times out of 10. If I could get on the skates, I could make it. Probably with my eyes closed. If football is an Olympic sport, neither should soccer. It doesn't make sense when we have the World Cup and the Stars don't even play during the Olympics. Is soccer an Olympic sport? It is, but it's not the same. Yeah. No one cares. It's not like best on best. What was the previous one? Was that it? No, the previous one was just where you should have a regular person do Olympics to see how they would compare. Yeah, we've discussed that. Yeah. We would suck. But football is going to... I curled. It was terrible. Listen, football is going to be best on best. Yeah. It's going to be our NFL players. Yeah, we better not lose that. Last one. My take on the Winter Olympics is they should add big game hunting as a sport and winter survival as a sport. Love that. I log hours watching Luke from Outdoor Boys survive in 15 feet of Alaskan snow with nothing but a shovel. If they added that as an event and had 24-hour feed running on survivalists on a random channel, that would make up the Winter Olympics so much more watchable. I do agree with big game hunting. That would rock. It's like you go out in the wilderness, and then you just have to weigh. How much bear did you come back with? An Olympic sport of just watching dudes in the middle of the woods in the winter who can start a fire faster? I'd watch that. Yeah. John Kruk announcing? That would be an awesome one. So the idea that we had a couple- Who can make John Kruk a sausage first? Cooking. You can make the fire, cook the sausage, hand it to John Kruk. I think just cooking in general should be an Olympic sport. It's like who can make the best steak in the world? You get the same ingredients. Who does best? Isn't that just Top Chef? No, it's a little bit different. You think you're like chopped. Yeah. No, I mean, you all get a ribeye. You get salt. You get a little bit of oil. You get a fire. And you got to kill it. Well, you have to kill the ribeye first and then cut the ribeye. There is actually a sport that we were talking about a couple days ago, which is like on the skis, you just go up and back down the mountain until somebody stops. Yeah. Just like for time. Like, who can keep moving for the longest period of time before you have to quit? Sounds awful. Yeah. There we go. All right. Yance just said, yeah, you score 100 out of 100. I just watched it again. All right. He might be fucking with me, but we score that every time. 100 out of 100. Yeah, 100 out of 100. Nathan McKinnon, he should probably never play hockey again. Okay. Numbers. Five. Three. I'll do six. 56. 26. 75. I just got to be able to stand on the skates and I'm there. I just don't know if I would be able to stand on the skates. Yeah, that part would be tough. I would probably slip as soon as it got to me. But if I knew how to skate, 100 out of 100. Everyone said their number? I'm not sure what that means. Lean six. Oh, there's a ball caught up there. Zero's caught up there. 98. 98. Oh, wait. Oh, wait. 86. Oh, 86. Oh, all right, boys, come in. We'll do one more. All right, we'll do one more. We'll do one. Yep. Yeah, it was. You were going to say 86? Wait, are you wearing a jersey that's 86 right now? Oh, no. That sucks. You were going to say 86? That's a sick jersey. Shane. He said he's guessed it every single. You've guessed it every time? That's a Shane. I've guessed it like every single time this new machine. That's a Shane. That's a real Shane. Are you fucking with me? What's it? What's it? 86? 86 right here, buddy. Oh, my God. Oh, no. That's tough. 86. Damn. All right. Well, Shane, you can guess first. Go ahead. Numbers. 86. Oh, me. I can't guess first. No, you can't. Well, you did, but you paused. You paused. Do you want 86? I mean, it's not going to be 86 twice in a row. Could be. Same chances. Might as well try. All right. 86. Yeah, you got it. All right. I'll go six. That sucks. This is a setup. It's not a setup. It's not a setup. It actually happened. It's not a setup, dude. 56. It's not a setup. That's so funny. You're wearing an 86 jersey. Yeah. I'll go five. You go 99. 43. 41. What's your guess, PFT? 75. Six. Oh 86 Back to back There you go Shane Was it? No it's 58 Anybody else get it? Damn That's fucked up 58 no one said 58 Yeah I didn't know I was gonna do that Shane There was no way No way Also, we got to pick zero. Sold it pretty good. Zero stuck up there, yeah. Love you guys. If you would have came in on time, you would have got it. Love you guys. Happy birthday to maybe the biggest draft bust of all time, Christian Ponder. Yes. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.