Father Knows Less with Bobby Bones: Lauren Alaina's Crazy Birth Story & Kickoff Kevin on Twin Chaos

This is an I Heart Podcast. Guaranteed human. No gloss, no filter. Just stories. Spoken without fear. A person who is not generous cannot be an artist. The world will be at peace only when it is ruled by poets and philosophers. Listen to my weekly podcast, the Pooja Bhachon on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Come for the honesty, stay for the fire. All right, another episode of Father Knows Less, and because we don't do this as a real podcast, this is two different YouTube videos that we did. But the first one you may have seen with Lauren Elena, and we talked about her and her birth experience and how crazy it was. You'll hear the umbilical cord story. Pretty wild. Always loved talking with Lauren. And then after that, we talked with one of the guys that works here with me, Kickoff Kevin, and he had twins, first babies. And we talked about what that's like for him. And so here is another, let's say episode, but yeah, you get it. And if you wanna watch these, they're up on at Bobby Bones channel on YouTube. But here is Father Knows Less. All right, wanna welcome Lauren Elena to the Father Knows Less show. Thank you, Lauren. Of course. Did you ever feel completely clueless when you had your kid? Every single day. I feel like I'm learning every day how to take care of a child. My question about being a new parent, and you're ahead of me a little bit because your baby's over a year now, right? No, she's 10 months. Well, I saw a picture. I thought it was your birthday party, like Hardy and all those other people. Everyone thinks that was Rosie's birthday party. Everyone thinks it was my daughter's birthday party. That's why I thought it was a year because that picture. A lot of people have told me that they thought it. It was Hardy's daughter's birthday. Okay. So your daughter's 10 months old. She'll be a year old, June 11th. What's the deal with traveling? Because we haven't traveled, our baby's just a few weeks old. When did you start feeling comfortable traveling with your child? Like on a plane? Yeah. I have not. You have not went with her? I have done it. But you said that I feel comfortable. Oh, you haven't felt comfortable. I feel comfortable. What is that? What's the protocol? No, actually, Benny is really great. She's a really easy traveler. If my husband's with me, or someone is with me, I feel comfortable, but it would be really hard to do it by myself. Because what do you have to do extra with a baby that you don't have to do when it's just you? Well, figuring out where to feed her, breastfeeding. And then you have to travel with so much stuff. That seems to be the thing everywhere we go now. It's just so much stuff. Like, it's not just a, I mean, we are now at the age where it does get better because we're at the age now where I feel like I can take the baby and a change of clothes if she poops all over herself or spill something. And diapers, essentially, and get away with it. If we're going to a restaurant because she now eats food too. She's not just taking milk, but... It is a total adjustment. I mean, if you fly with your child, you have to take a pack and play because they're gonna have to have somewhere to sleep. I mean, you take a lot of stuff, but you get used to it. It's just your whole life change. Like, you start taking less stuff for you and you take everything for them. Like, I'm re-wearing the shirt a couple times. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not gonna take 18 outfit choices. She has 18 outfit choices. I have one. Have you had a situation where she's crying in a public place? Where I'm like feeling really bad about it. I'm not gonna lie. My daughter is not a fussy baby. She's a, like, it's hilarious if you know her parents. I think we are soaking up all the energy and she's just hanging out. But I have had some situations where she's crying and I feel bad, but I will tell you, everyone's really nice when you have a crying baby, especially when they're really little. When people feel bad for you, worse than they feel for themselves, I think. Cause, especially the mom. Cause you can just tell, like, the mom is frantic and like it is piercing to a mother's ear when the baby is crying and needing something and we're trying to figure out what it is. Like, I mean, mostly my maternal instinct kicks in and I don't really care in that moment about everybody else. And then if she continues to cry, then I would feel bad for everyone else. But it would be like on a plane where you would feel bad if the baby cried the whole time. But even then, it's like, you gotta get where you're going and it's a baby. Like, what am I supposed to do, you know? I feel like my wife has some sort of like echo location where if the baby, she can sense it. I could hear my baby cry if she started crying right now when we're across town. I mean, I literally, it's crazy. It initiates something in you, like my husband. Me too, I mean, that's really what I've been like, yeah. I mean, if it were up to Cameron, Benny would cry all night long if something was wrong because he would not wake up and I, I mean, I don't even need like a video monitor. I can hear her across the house. It's done something to my ears. It's crazy. We're so early in. It's again, we're just a few weeks in and... How old is she now? A little over three weeks. Oh my goodness, the snuggles. And she doesn't do a lot, right? It's awesome. Snuggle her as much as you can because then they get busy and they don't love to snuggle as much. Like, I know people say you can like spool your baby, don't hold your baby too much. Hold that baby from morning to dark if you want to because it goes by so fast. I know everyone says that, but it really, I could weep about it. I mean, we're in a really fun age. She's crawling, learning to walk and she like knows us and says mama and dad. That's crazy to think about our baby saying words to us or even... That are you. Yeah. Like to recognize you, to know you. That will happen sooner than you think where she will recognize you. Because right now... They look like, they're like a little potato at first that, you know, eats in poops. And then all of a sudden they're like, this is my person. Like you, especially with your wife, I think she, the baby will recognize her probably first. And then, I mean, but it wasn't long after, but she like Benny knew who I was. Like, I think she knew who I was immediately, but I was more like the person that carried her and fed her, you know? And then you become their person that they trust and they recognize. And that is the most rewarding part of being a parent to me. My wife will be crying sometimes. And I'm like, what's wrong? She's like, nothing, I'm just so happy. Did that happen to you? Oh yeah. And your wife's body just went through the most miraculous gift and crazy shift of all time for a woman. So yeah, the emotions are very heightened at that time. And yes, I still look at my daughter and cry. Like I took these pictures of her with these blocks that said 42 weeks, because I went way past my due date. I went 12 days, 11 days past. Wow. So I almost carried her a full 42 weeks. Were you doing? And so I took a picture of her with blocks that said 42 weeks and the way she held her little hands in the bow and her hair made me cry. So yeah, the crying doesn't stop. Just out of pure adoration for her, I cry. Like I love her so much. We were doing things like curb walking. Uh, yeah. Were you trying hot, spicy food? I did every trick. If you've read a trick, I did it. The only thing I never did was castor oil. I never drank the castor oil. I was like, because my doula told me that some people take, drink the castor oil and they have contractions, but it doesn't actually get them into birth. And I was like, well, we're not gonna do that. I don't wanna do that. How did you know? But a lot of women do it in it. Like immediately they have the baby. How did you know you're having the baby? Like what was your... I had to be induced. I ended up getting induced. At four, even though you were two weeks late? I had to be induced, yeah. I mean, it started being, it started, I really didn't wanna be induced. Like I wanted my body to do it. And at some point I was like, getting kinda scared. That she was still in there, you know? She's about to graduate high school, she's still in there. Yeah, she came out reading. That's crazy. She's driving a car. For me, there have been certain things that I've learned in the past, even month. One thing is how important the labor nurses are, labor and delivery nurses. If I were to see ours walking down the street, and again, she spent a day with us. So we're just another person coming in and going out. But to us... Same. I would hug her and go, what can I do for your life? Yeah, can I pay for your kid to go to school? What do you need? Yeah, same. So valuable. It's such a crazy experience, isn't it? Just like, I mean, I was the person that had the baby. But even for my husband, and Cameron's the life of the party, he's Mr. Jokester, he's not a super emotional person. And when Benny came out and he saw her, he shopped. I've never seen him cry. I mean, when someone passed away, he cries in appropriate situations, but like, shopped. And it's just such an out of, it's otherworldly experience. And those people, and it's so hard on the mom, like there's a lot going on. And those women that we had, like there was one nurse we had specifically that same. Like I love her. I love her. I'm very close to feeling that way about ours. I love her. Yeah, because... I don't want her to be there when I have another child. She was there, and she was there for most of it before our doctor got there, because the doctor got called in. So it's like my wife started going into labor and she's in all of it. When they started pulling out the trash bag, I know it was getting real, by the way. Do you see them do that for you? They start pulling out the plastic. So we had like kind of a wild birth, because when I would push, Benny's heart plummeted, and they couldn't figure out why. So her umbilical cord was wrapped around her head twice and up under her shoulder and then between her legs. So when I would push, it was pulling. Wow, did you know that as it was happening? No, but I knew something was not right. So I was very scared. It was very scary. It happens a lot, I think. I can't imagine. She was fully wrapped. She was like... And I think, and part of me thinks, you know, there's, I never knew anything about childbirth until I was getting prepared to have one. And basically the way like your cervix and all the things, like the way you dilate and stuff is the baby's head like burrows down. So I'm wondering because she was so wrapped up, if that's why I went so far past my due date, because she wasn't able to do what she needed to do to like prepare my body for birth. But they basically told me not to push until the doctor got there. I wasn't like, I did not push. And I pushed, and they, the doctor came in and told me all these things that we were gonna have to do to get her out. Like not, like four steps. And there's like this vacuum that they can use. And they're telling me this. And I look up at my husband and I'm just like scared to death, you know? I mean, it's scary anyway, but then that started happening. And I was like, oh my gosh. And I was like, what, and then they were, and she was so far down in the birth canal that they would have had to push her back up for a C-section. So they said that really wasn't the greatest choice at that point either. So then we're like having to pick the best of not great choices. And I'm not kidding. It scared me so much. So for them to do any of those things, you have to push for the doctor to kind of assess. And then they would do like bring in the force. And she was also sideways. So he said he couldn't do the vacuum. So you push and then they like clamp on her head and pull her out, which is so graphic, I'm sorry. But it scared me so bad. He said, well, we're gonna do, I want you to push as hard as you can. And I just kind of wanna see the position of her head. And then you're gonna relax. And then we'll do it again. And we're gonna get her out. And I looked up at my husband. I will never forget it. Something happened to me and I pushed her out. Like they did not have to use anything. Like something happened to me. They scared me so bad. You know, you see those videos of people like lifting cars off of their children. I had that experience because I was like, because they told me everything that if they use that stuff, which I had a friend who had to use them and the baby was perfectly fine, but it can hurt them. Like the best option is to not have to use anything. And so it just scared me. And I pushed her out. I pushed twice and she was out. No gloss, no filter. Just stories, spoken without fear. Addiction is a disease. And it should be looked upon as any other disease. How did you cope with a reckless father like me? Join me, Pooja Bhatt, as I sit down every week with directors, actors, musicians, technicians, and beyond. You don't need to work with the biggest people and the biggest sound to have great music. I have gone through the sub-CD hutchaker. Reach the pinnacle. Stung by the snake and I've fallen down again. I am not writing actively anymore. And when I see my old work, it kind of saddens me. I'm only as good as the last shot that I gave. Mom's gone, but don't shut the theater. The show must go on. Listen to my weekly podcast, the Pooja Bhatt show, on the iHeart Radio app. I'll put podcasts over wherever you get your podcasts. Come for the honesty. Stay for the fire. When you heard her cry, were you like, oh my god? It, that right now will make me weep. Because I was so scared that she wasn't going to be OK. And I heard her, well, first thing, I watched like I see them pull her out. And he's doing this to my baby, like untangling my child. Like I see the doctor untangling. He was like, she's really tangled. And I'm like, is she OK? And my husband is hysterically sobbing. And I'm like, look, and they laid her on me. And she didn't cry immediately. They like suctioned out of her mouth. And she went, and I literally like have never heard a more beautiful sound. It, that my life changed instantly in that second when I, I mean, looking at her just like, yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, so it was scary. And then that the reward of getting, I literally like never wanted them to take her away from me. I was like, where, I didn't even want them to weigh her. They were like, well, we have to weigh her. And I was like, no, you don't. I was like, because I was so scared, you know. Whenever they laid the baby on my wife's chest, well, what's crazy was she immediately went from the intense pressure of having to have a child physically, mentally, emotionally to, she just started going, I love her so much. I love her so much. Oh, yes. I've never seen anything like that before. Where as soon as it touched her, she was like, I love her so much. And she was obviously crying and emotional. Instantly. Yeah. It's the craziest, I can't, inexplainable feeling. Like, it's, yeah. How long until you could sing again after you gave birth? Because it didn't hurt? Singing? Yeah. Because. Yeah. I know, I know idea that it was that. I did not sing right at first. It actually really scared me. It actually really scared me because I couldn't control my voice in a way that I'm able to do. That's a great question, Molly. How long do you think it took? Couple months? Yeah, I would say like two months before you started filming. Couple months. Well, I mean, you think about it. You have like a gaping wound in your, and so I was like not able to, it was because I had no core left. So I could not control. I was still able to sing, but I could not control like flipping my voice and stuff. And it wasn't a voice thing. It was all like a control. It was very interesting. Like I did some like vocal therapy and stuff to try to fix it. I was very ignorant as to what it does to the female body. It does a lot. Because I've said before, I thought it was like, OK, rub some dirt on it. Get to raising. How is your wife doing? How's she feeling? Great now. But I mean, it's, you know, we read the thing five days in a bed, five days around the bed, five days. And it's more than that. It's way more than that. Yep. Shout out to every woman that has to go through this. There's a new respect if I haven't gone through it. Like you guys rule, we suck. We are the superior. Women are superior. I agree. I agree. When did you go out and start singing again on the road? I had my first show. I think she was about three months old. Did you? Were you there physically? No. But it was contractual. I actually, I don't even know if I've talked about this, but I saw it hysterically that I had to go back to work. I was not ready. And I thought, I mean, when I was like looking at the calendar, right, I was like, oh, I'll be so ready by. It was end of August. She was born. I literally think it was maybe the last day of August that was my first show and she was born June 11th. So it's actually sooner than I thought now that I'm thinking about it. What also blows me away is that we don't have full paid maternity leave. Well, and I don't have paid maternity leave at all. Our government doesn't like. Oh, right. That's what you're saying. Yeah. Like in some countries, it's like three months paid fully maternity leave. Ours is like, you had a baby? All right. You do it at 9 AM, get to work. There's just a whole new respect from me because I've not gone through it. I have so much respect for just mothers in general, too, because I am very fortunate in that my job, she goes with me mostly. It's starting to be like I have the whole month of May is going to be a tough month for me. She'll be fine because I'm going to leave her with her dad. But I have West Coast runs and I'm just not. I'm not doing that to her. So I now I'm at the stage where I'm leaving her. But I think, you know, but a lot of mothers have to go back to work way sooner than I did. And they're gone from them all day long. I guess the real difference is like when I'm gone from her, I don't come home at night. You're gone for a few days at a time. Yeah, I'm gone for stretches of time. But this May will be the first time where I've left her more than like 48 hours. May 2nd, you're doing the I Heart Country Festival. I am. To Luke Bryant. I'm going to leave her there. Kane Brown. Wait, you're going to leave her in Texas? Is she coming to Texas? No. That's not her home. Don't leave her there. At least leave her here. I'm going to leave her at home. I believe. Well, we haven't talked about that one's a quick one. So in Texas, it's a little bit easier. So we're figuring out, sorry. Yes, I'm going to Texas. I interrupted and talked all over that. It's a big show. Everybody should get tickets. Ticketmaster.com. One final question. You were gifted a Bronco by Rascal Plads? Yes. I saw the picture. It's real. They blindfolded us and took us out to the garage. And I was like, maybe they got us a golf cart or something. I don't know. And then they cranked up these cars. And then a seal was like, they're going to put us in these cars and take us somewhere. And then I realized that was my car. They were giving you the car. They gave us the car. Shipped it. I mean, we didn't drive them home from there, obviously, because we had more shows. So they shipped the cars. Like, just one day I walked outside and it was in my driveway. Is that the greatest tour gift you've ever gotten? Yeah. I mean, that's insane. Well, I appreciate you talking about all that stuff with me. Oh my gosh. And I'm here if you have any questions. And my wife says the same thing about you. She's so grateful that you've reached out and been. She's asked me a couple of questions. I'm like, there are no dumb questions because you know nothing. You have this baby. You get back to the nurse thing. You have this baby. And these people help you bring this baby into the world. And then they're like, here's how the car seat goes in the car. Good luck. Then you go home and you're like, where did I put it? Where does it go? You're like, where did it? Yeah. But they're, you know, and I told her about this little thing that we laid Benny in. I told her about it. It's like a pillow. Do you all have it? Probably. We have. There's like a little indentation in the center of it. Oh, we do have that. Yeah, I told her to get that. We do have that. I'm trying to think of what it's called, but I center the link and stuff. Final question. What's the best thing about being a mom? Oh, man. There's so many wonderful things. The way she loves me, just the most pure, innocent love. The way she looks at me and needs me and just, yeah. There's nothing like it. Just to know that I am and my husband too, but it's different with the mother a little bit. But I am the number one person in her life. And I don't like just, yeah. Oh my goodness. And she says mama. And that was her first word. And that was pretty good. Thank you, Lauren. No gloss, no filter, just stories, spoken without fear. Addiction is a disease. And it should be looked upon as any other disease. How did you cope with a reckless father like me? Join me, Pooja Bhatt, as I sit down every week with directors, actors, musicians, technicians, and beyond. You don't need to work with the biggest people and the biggest sound to have great music. I have gone through the sub-CD hachakar. The rich, the pinnacle, stung by the snigger, have fallen down again. Yeah. I am not writing actively anymore. And when I see my old work, it kind of saddens me. I'm only as good as the last shot that I gave. Mom's gone, but don't shut the theater. The show must go on. Listen to my weekly podcast, the Pooja Bhatt show, and the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Come for the honesty. Stay for the fire. OK. On this episode, we have kickoff Kevin, who has twins. Congratulations on that. Thank you very much. Dude, that's crazy. Wild. But you don't know the difference. You don't know what it would be like to have one, because I have one. Yeah. You just had two. I think if you had one, then you had two, like my friend, Ben Rector, had a baby. Is it a girl? And then they were going to have another baby, then they had twins. So they know what it's like to have one, but then they had two. And does he talk about how much harder two is compared to one? Yeah. And I know it's going to be really hard even for you, but I don't know that you know the difference and how easy it could have been with just one. Yeah, I don't. We always, like my wife and I, always hypothetically talk about, imagine if we just had one. Like you spread them out, one then one? Yeah, one then one. But then we always say, but imagine if we had three or four at the same time. So you can always go either avenue, I guess. But yeah, we say that all the time. Like, hey, at least we started this way instead of having one and then two. Now I just hope we don't have another set of twins. Does that ever happen where people have multiple sets of twins? Yeah. You had them in your family? Hers. And she has a lot. Of twins? A lot, yeah. Was she a twin? No, no, she wasn't. I made a list of things because ours is still considered a newborn of really important items that I'm glad we knew of. And if you have any, you want to throw in that you can, but there's something called a boppy. You familiar with a boppy? No. You probably are. Maybe the brand name, I don't know. It's like a thing that wraps, it's a pillow that kind of is a half circle. And so it's used for a lot of things. For if I'm setting the baby up, if our baby has like, at times like some reflex stuff, like the boppy is legitimate as a pillow that goes around your waist for the baby. Yes. Do you guys have that? Now I know what you're talking about. And that could also be the brand. Yeah. I think we just called it the horseshoe pillow or something. That's probably a good name for it. There's also, and I've mentioned this, there's a rubber duck that we have that has the temperature on the rubber duck, what you put in the water. That's legit. Oh, it's the greatest thing I thought everybody knew about this. Oh yeah, it's a rubber duckie, a yellow rubber duckie. And on the bottom you just flip it on, and then you put it on the water and it tells you the temperature of the water so you don't burn the baby. My, our temperature is just a finger. Well now I'm getting good because of the rubber duckie, I'm getting good. But this thing's like six bucks. I encourage everybody on Amazon, if you're wondering how, even for me, I take a bath at 114. You know your temperature? Well, could I put the duck in there? Ah. But once we had the baby and we, because I, Well before that you didn't know. No idea, had no idea. Okay. But chat GBT was like, hey, if you're going to give a baby a bath, it should be around 99 to 100, which is just kind of warm, it's not even that hot. Okay. Body temperature. Okay. So you gotta think we're 99, 98.6, whatever. Right. So it's basically body temperature water to give the baby a bath in. And then obviously I'm curious about my own bath, so I would run it to how I would normally have it. And it's at 114 to 116. Interesting. I think that's pretty hot for a human, because my wife will sometimes forget that I've run the bath, and then she'll just turn it on, and then she'll put her foot in, and I hear her go, what the heck man? It's so hot. Dude, we're opposite, or my wife is super hot. And I'm opposite where I like cooler. The boppy, the rubber, you gotta get a rubber duck. I was going to say the rubber duck is awesome. Do you, like your kids are how old now? Ten and a half months. So what do I have to look forward to? Like what are the cool things between like one and six months? Well right now, you're still early enough, I think, where you're just basically trying to keep her alive. Not to be dramatic, but at the end of the day, it's kind of what it is. I'm basically trying to keep my wife alive, to keep the baby alive. That too. That's really weird. That too. And then so now you really have to look forward to, and even like my kids at ten and a half months are changing every day, but really like after six months, or so you start to see these personalities, Six months is when that happens. Yeah, like big, even before that, but now it's really, really starting to come through after six months. And the difference, the good thing about twins is, you see just how different each one is. So like my girl is just wild. She's a wild child, just wants to go, go, go, yell, scream. And then my boy just kind of sits back, puts his fingers together, that kind of stuff. So it's really cool to see the personalities come out, and like which one might be more like you. Or if she's going to be more like you, or more like your wife. And then as they get older, like legit every day, it's a little bit more every single day. Once you hit that little bit of personality in a few months from now, and then from then on it just goes so fast. It's just me reading stuff, but it says it's a big shift around three months where they start smiling regularly, and baby really smiles now, but it's usually it's from gas or something. Yeah. It's mostly a muscle thing, I think, unless she's just delighted with me while she's pooping. I think so smiling regularly, the first laugh, stronger neck, that's around two to three months. Is that pretty cool when the baby starts to react to you? Yeah, that was just going to say the best part now. I mean, I walk in the door, and both the kids, like they'll hear their door open, and they'll kind of pop up, they're like in the playpen, and they'll look through the bars, and they'll see me, and just these big smiles. And I'm telling you, like, there is no better feeling. I've heard all about that growing up, but that is the best part, getting home. Even if you had a crappy day at work, crappy day of doing whatever, you see that, and they don't care, they don't know about anything, but you see that smile, even at this young of an age, like it'll change your entire day when you see that. Any items that I haven't mentioned that you guys live by? Dude, diaper genie. I don't know, you have one? It's a pediatrician, they have one, but it always stinks. Ours doesn't. Oh, okay, so the reason that we didn't do diaper genie is because it smells like poop, coming out of that thing, it's a pediatrician, but maybe that's just because people are reckless, because it's not theirs. Yeah, probably, because we've had ours since day one, and we still use it literally every single day. Does yours have a hole in it, and it turns? Like, you throw it in and it turns? Not a turn, like, you kind of shove it down, or you toss it down in there, and it has, like, a little, like, contraption where, you know, when the diaper goes through, it shuts back up. Okay, yeah, yeah. And I mean, it's in our living room, and we don't even smell anything. Something that I knew nothing about, and you guys are double-timed this, how many diapers a baby uses? Oh, my gosh. So much so that it's affected me in a way of we donate diapers every week, because I don't know that if you're just getting by, like, week to week, like, if you're living paycheck to paycheck, and you also got to buy diapers, that's so much money. It's insane. Luckily for us, shout out my father-in-law, we've only had to buy, like, two boxes, I think, because since day one, he's been all by your diapers for you. Man, that is awesome. It's the best thing. That's like a scholarship to college. Yeah, every time we run out, especially with two, we go through so much. Every time we run out, we text him. Next day is on our doorstep. No way. It's the best. In wipes. In wipes. A lot of wipes. What about cloths? Like baby cloths, like, wiping cloths. So, like, burp rags? Yeah, I couldn't think of the word. There are times where I'm walking around the house, and I just look in a mirror, and I've got two on me. I don't even remember putting them on me. There's, like, one on a shoulder. It's like a back of my shirt. It's almost like when you take clothes out of a dryer, and there's, like, a sock attached to your pants, and you didn't realize it, because the static cling. Like, I have burp cloths just on me. I'll go to work in the morning, and I got to do a burp cloth check to make sure nothing is attached to me right now. Yeah, they're everywhere. And the fact that you grow out of babies, the babies grow so fast. And again, I'm only three, four weeks into this. But she's already grown out of so many onesies. Oh, yeah. It's insane. What a racket that is. It's insane. And, like, I let my wife do whatever, you know, get her clothes, but she's learning as she goes along, like, why do we need all these clothes? Because half of them they'll never wear, because they just grow out of them so fast. Especially the onesies at that little. And then you just start buying, like, when they're six months, you buy nine months, because they're just going to grow into it, even as big now. So you put them... Ah, that's good. You put them in something a little bigger so they'll have it longer. Yeah. Yeah. Especially if you're buying something nice. We've got rules, no nice clothes. Good. Right now, I mean, I... Who knows? But, right, it's all generic. Good. I'm not sure what my wife gets it, but there's no name brand. The fact they make name brand baby stuff is crazy to me. I know. That's only for Instagram, right? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. And kind of like a lot of other people where you go out and your baby's wearing this nice whatever brand, and it's almost like, this is for other people and not really for us. They don't wear this unless we go out in public, so we can show other people we have this nice brand on our baby. Did you guys have a wedge pillow? No. It's something that we use now. It's basically a pillow that's a wedge, so if the baby needs to, like, not stand up, but be elevated, so not laying down. Okay. The pillow is great for that. Interesting. I haven't seen that one. Yeah. Just wait till the baby can hold herself up, though. That's a relief. What do you mean? Like, is she strong enough to hold her neck up quite yet? She turns her head over. Okay, but she can't, like, sit up. She does a mile on the treadmill, Max. Dang. She's already there? Yeah, she doesn't mind. She's a little ahead of ours, so that's okay. But no, when you don't have to, like, support her head in every little movement, and she can start to support herself, like, if you just move her just even from, you know, sitting here to sitting here, and you don't have to, like, hold her head as you move her, it's just a nice relief, just internally, so you don't feel like you're going to break a baby's neck. I was talking on an episode prior where the car seat was actually a lot easier than I thought, because people had built that up to be, you never get, like, a 10,000-piece puzzle with no picture on the box. You're never going to figure it out. It's actually quite simple. Yeah. And I put a mirror on that headrest of the seat so you can see in the mirror end of the kit. And then I got a lot of messages going, hey, you can get cameras that are pretty inexpensive. And you, so, because I don't, my vision's not good, and also I got to look in a mirror to see a mirror to see the baby. Mm-hmm. What do you guys have to see the babies? We have a mirror. I didn't even know they had cameras. We just ordered one. We haven't opened it yet, but I didn't know if you had done that at all. No, but honestly, I can't stand the mirrors because those are harder to put together than the car seats, ours are the ones that we have at least. We should probably get new ones. But like if we go from my wife's car, which is the car seats are normally in there to my truck for whatever reason, I'm like, I don't even want to take the mirrors off and put them back on because it's that much of a hassle. You go blind on the baby. I just go blind. When you get there, you just cross your fingers and hope, oh my God, help the baby a lot. I just pull down and I just take a peek if I can't hit a red light. Okay, we're good. All right, keep going. And that's about it. But no, we have the mirrors. What's been the best part about it? Man, this is something that I've looked forward to since I was little. I have a great relationship with my dad. So I think just looking forward to this my entire life, but not rushing it at the same time. Like, thank God I found a great woman and a great mom and a great wife. So I think the best part has been like it's been everything I've wanted my entire life, but then even more. What's been the hardest part about it? Sleep by far. Because we have our little boy, he's still not sleeping through the night. So we wake up at least once a night with him and then he wakes her up sometimes. So then it's like you get the double whammy, then you're up for an hour instead of just being up for 15 minutes and then you try to go back to sleep and the other one wakes up. So just a lack of sleep and like the inconsistent sleep schedule is definitely two. And it would take an hour, when they were a little, little month, first month or two, it would take an hour and a half when they would wake up in the middle of the night to feed them. Could feed them, burp them, change them, all that would take an hour and a half to get both of them done. I get so excited when there is a big bar type belly fat man burp that comes out of her. Oh, it's the best. Dude, it's the, it's like. Because you know how good it feels. Yes. And also it's like, you know, you get an iPhone, you used to peel that plastic off and you'd be like, that's so satisfying. You're like, this is stupid, but it just, that's kind of when, if I'm burping her, like if my wife's done and I'm, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah. Because at first too, like they're so small, you really don't, you can a little tight, a little tap and then you realize these babies are built to be burped. Yeah. That's a pretty satisfying part of being like that so far. Did your wife, like, was she ever telling you like, stop hitting her so hard or anything like that? No, because she was doing it before me because I was scared to death. I'd never, I'd ever held one baby ever in my whole life prior to our baby and it was for like 30 seconds. It was my nephew because I think they were like, hey, hold this baby for a second. So anything, any of my relationship mentally with the baby was I'm going to break this thing so do not touch. So mine was always like one finger tap and she's like, no, no, no, you're not going to get anything out of her unless you really, but the other thing that I've learned is like the rub up on the back. Oh yeah. Yeah. That's been good for me to get some burps out. Like your wife does it to you? No, I wish. I wish you would do like, because you did like bicycle legs to get poop. I tell my wife, I want to do some of this stuff. Like do some of this stuff to me because I have stomach issues. So what do I have to look like? What's the best part about the next few months coming up for me? Just the drastic change of like not her, not you just, you know, trying to keep her alive. Like I said earlier, now you're really going to start to, she's going to start to notice you. She's going to, to your point, she's already kind of seeing you and noticed you a little bit, but then she'll start following you. She'll start laughing at things you say. You'll make her laugh. Then the little giggle. I mean, there's nothing like a baby's giggle, especially when it's your own baby. So I think just seeing that come through so fast and it's going to happen like that. And then another week goes by and she's going to have another new personality come out of her. So all of that rapidly happening so fast is probably going to be the best part. What is your advice to new dads? Like if they're just about to have a baby. Be there for your wife. Number one, because we've talked about this before. You don't really know what they go through until you see them go through it. Then it's like, okay, well she just went through nine months of all this and then labor and then all this. Now you just need to be there for your wife, making sure the kids okay of course, but also just being like, Hey, what do you need? Let me support you. And how can I make your life easier for at least the first couple weeks until they can get their feet back on her. And they can feel normal and she can feel good again. That would be my biggest thing is just be there for her and just take a step back of like your own role. Don't even think about yourself and just really be unselfish. I remember whenever you told me you were having twins, this is months before you excited baby like, we're having twins. And you're like, I'm going to be gone for a while. And I did. I said, I didn't know the benefit of paternity leave. I now do. And I was just like, dude, I didn't know. I mean, I just always want the people to work for me to feel like they have full support for me regardless of what they're doing. And I was like, dude, don't even answer the phone from us. Take off as much time as you want. Like you just let me know when you're good. And you're like, no, no, I think I'm going to work a little bit. I didn't know. I didn't know what I was saying, but I was like, no, no, you're not going to want to work. You're going to want to. And it turns out this is one of those times where I was randomly really right. And I'm glad I've been through it now because it's so important for your wife, your partner to have somebody there with them. It's crazy. Like what they've been through physically and now what they're expected to do immediately. It is wild. Yeah. And so anyway, I mean, you were immediately like, go away, turn off your phone, whatever you need to do, your email, everything and thank God for that because internally we always want to be like, I want to help where I can and work where I can. But to be able to have that like space of separation with work while dealing with that is a game changer. I didn't even really know what I was saying. I just want everybody to feel supported who works for me. And you were like, I need time off. I'm like, well, take it. But now if someone were to come to me and say, hey, I need some time, double it. And I'll see. I was going to say, what do you feel like? Like do you feel like two weeks is it depends. Everyone's situation is a little bit different, I guess. Yeah, I feel I took a week, but I made sure the show was still fully covered. And the second week I worked from home. So I was working fully, but I was a stone's throw. And there were times where we'd be in the studio and I feel like, hey, can you help me? I would because I was close in a perfect world. First of all, I would in our country kind of sucks at maternity leave. Like there are laws that protect women from losing their jobs, but they're not getting paid. I think if it were me, I would try to mandate six months paid maternity leave for everyone. And that's probably not enough because there are countries in Europe that do way better than that. But I would do six months paid maternity leave government covered. And then if possible for the dudes, three weeks. I think it's a sufficient amount of time to fully be dedicated. And if it's a little more than that, it's less than that great. But I think three weeks is a number that we should not scoff at if a dude wants to take off time for their wife. Because I think uneducated to me would be like, paternity leave. You didn't have the baby. Suck it up. I could not feel more. And I never said that out loud. As dudes were kind of taught that, like why does a dude need to leave? But now that I've been through it, it's needed. I would three weeks to a month for a dude, you must take off. It's not even that you get paid. Like you have to take off three to four weeks so you can be there. And we're going to come and look in your window and make sure you're supporting her. Like that would be part of the... Yeah, you're not going on vacation over here. Yes, that would be part of the rules, part of the law. Yeah, thanks. I often use you as a source when I'm like, man, I think it's crazy for us. What about if we had two? Yeah. That's crazy. That's what a lot of people say, like I can't believe you do two, but to your point, you don't know the difference. At the start, you don't know the difference. And thank God we don't know the difference. And hopefully there's just one from here on out. All right, there he is. Kick off, Kevin, on Father Knows Less. 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