Divisional Recap: Rams End Caleb's Miracle, Seattle's Big D, Oh No Bo, Stroud's Meltdown, Josh Allen's Interception, and Michael Bay's Filmography

Well, welcome to the Bringer Fantasy football show. My name is Danny Hypix and I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Greg Coralbeck and the conference championship games are set. Wow, the Denver Broncos and Jared Stittum at quarterback will be hosting the England Patriots and the AFC Championship game and TK. Your Seattle Seahawks will be hosting the Los Angeles Rams in the NFC Championship game and we'll get to all that but I mean Rams bears just ended the Rams beat the Bears in a walkoff 2017 game almost all the overtime is used and honestly we're going to start the losing team. Caleb Williams is fourth and fourth touchdown through the Colt Comet. I thought God was real and that I was witnessing the rapture. Deke, I don't know where to start. I thought that was one of the most amazing football plays I've ever seen at any level of my entire life. I mean, it's the second straight week he's made one of the most improbable throws we've ever seen. It was such a Russell Wilson play. That's what I felt like in the moment like the way he backed up like reverse story. He tried to reverse bed and then he didn't spin and then he just kept backing up. You went almost to like the 50 yard line. I'll tell you. Russell Wilson used to be cool. Yeah, that's true. The ball was snapped at the 14 yard line and he threw it at the 40. Yeah, classic. Classic. So in the middle of that. So again, fourth and four, if you didn't see this play, you have to go watch it. But fourth and four Caleb starts running backward. It was like vintage Russell Wilson in mid 2010s where he starts running backward and running and he does the run backward. Then he does the double back. You know what I mean? Like he makes like an M and when he went backward the second time he lost like 25 yards. I literally said out loud alone to myself. I was like, oh, Caleb. Yeah, no, no, no. Yes, yes. It was the most no no yes play of the entire year. And I'm like, I think Caleb really, especially with the Bears, the one that came. I know. That was two of the best throws in the history of the NFL playoffs in back to back weeks between that and the fourth and eight to Green Bay last week. And then that one was kind of, I don't know if it was better or what, but I, frankly, it's almost deflating that the Bears ended up losing because that was, yeah, they're ruining it for us. They're ruining all the fun. Godless Los Angeles kills the vibes of this magic season. Yeah. If God is real, then DJ Moore is Satan because DJ Moore on that interception in overtime. I don't know. That wasn't the best throw by Caleb, but it also looked like DJ Moore stopped running or didn't know the ball was coming and just like didn't finish that route. And then the Rams guy picked it off. This is a bummer. I love it the Bears this year. And I really, I really wanted them to win this game. I think the right team one, I think the Rams are better. And I think the whole season, the Rams were better. And Ram C.O.X. are the two best teams. It felt inevitable. The NFC, like this is right. Just like Jared Steadham and Drake Mayor of the two best quarterbacks of the FC. Like it feels right. But I can't help but wish that that, you know, the throw is still incredible. I don't know what nickname anyone's going to give it. That throw is so unbelievable. It's a bummer. They didn't win this game. I think I saw, I have to tell you my intrusive thought. And this is the true intrusive thought I had. Watching just the aftermath after that Colt Kermit touchdown, seeing Sean McVeigh like eyes bugging. How many crazy games can the Rams lose, seeing the staff are kind of like stone faced. And I'm watching Caleb and Calcom Caleb was. And I actually had this thought flash across my mind. Like Caleb Williams is my favorite player in the NFL. And that happened. That happened during this game. And we talked so much about MVP. We should give out awards at the end of the season for MFB because I'm serious. I think going next year, Caleb Williams is my favorite player in the NFL. And he's more easily the most fun to watch. And he's new. It's like my home's still does crazy stuff, Josh Allen still does crazy stuff. But there's this something about Caleb. I think also the fact that Caleb is not perfect. And there are a lot of people out there who still think Caleb is not very good, which I think is crazy. I think doing what he has done in just one season with Ben Johnson, getting this close to the NFC championship shows how good and how high their ceiling is. But he does still just like make bone headed decisions. Like the pick on fourth down in the earlier in the game was like, you could call it a mini punt, but he still does things that are a little bit questionable and will miss easy throws. And then literally will make the greatest throw you've ever seen in your life, like back to back plays. But you can already see it really. Yeah. So the beginning of the season to now he has already gone from like it was 80 20 in terms of 80% of it was dumb, 20% of it was great to now it's the opposite. And 80% of it is fantastic. And 20% of it is not. I was talking all season about how the regression was coming for the Bears, which I suppose was true. However, the Bears are so clutch and what they did on that throw right before it went to commercial. So it was fourth and four with 27 seconds left in the fourth quarter. It cuts to commercial. But right before it does, the Rams call time out, everyone goes to sidelines. And Caleb is laughing and smiling, talking to somebody just on the side. And I I noticed man, it's four to four 27 seconds left in the season is on the line. It's like 10 degrees out and he was laughing and it cut to commercial. Cut to commercial. It came back and he has the Colcomet play. And to me, I'm like, that's all I need to see. Like this guy has it. It's like shades of Joe Monti. I think it was Joe Montana. This famous story is like deep in the game, he looked into the stands and said, hey, that's John Candy. John Candy. We should also say, was it Stafford last week against the Panthers? That was like, let's go rip their hearts out. So Stafford also has it. But Caleb has like the next generation coming in clearly has it. Born in the fight like baptized in the fires of Rihanna, like just the Gen Z. I totally agree. I mean, again, I keep broken record. I no longer feel crazy. Caleb Williams is the is the next level of Aaron Rogers. He releases the next version of Aaron Rogers. And I don't feel crazy anymore after watching like the free place. He was getting off the off sides in this game, all the throws. But again, to your point about, all right, you see a finished product yet, like the interception over time, the truth is he had a lot of near interceptions in this game. The Rams were really close to a lot of balls. Like Caleb was probably forcing some throws that all got deflected. But the overall demeanor, I mean, when you won, compared him to where Aaron Rogers was through two seasons in his career, Aaron Rogers never played yet. To me, it's the really looking how Caleb was today versus CJ Stroud. And I mean, Stroud has an extra season in the NFL. Also, how about the diversion ever since the CJ Stroud big road, Caleb, like, even though they both made it equally far to the playoffs. I don't know. I guess the way I'd say it because we should eventually talk about the teams that won. I think it's sad that this bear season ended. It is very clear. Like it would have been just magical for the bears to continue winning. But the reality is like the season is not in vain. The season overall, I want, I can't remember another losing season division around that will be remembered as fondly as this one in Chicago, because even the lines last year, like that was disappointing. The truth is that this season for Chicago reinvigorated football in Chicago. Like the bears have just totally resparked the love of the Chicago bears in this city. And you see that happen sometimes and how it brings people together. Like I hate to say it, but what the Philadelphia Eagles have done the last eight or nine years. Like people in Philadelphia are like closer to people from Philadelphia now after what's happened. And you see that happens when teams get back to being competing. And I feel like people in Chicago, it is so cool to see that team in those state, in the stadium, and how excited people are. It's too bad they didn't keep going, but I feel like, you know, you never know how far to the future. But Ben Johnson and Caleb, it just I think have a totally new thing going on now. Yeah, I agree with that. And I think a lot of times, you know, this is something we've talked about with Dan Campbell. A lot of times teams feel like, oh, this was their shot. Like they got this far, they may never get this far again. With the bears, it feels like they're an ascending team. Like this is just kind of the beginning. I think I said this back in like we 17 that this team just feels like they're still a year away from like truly being a super bowl contender. They obviously got very close here. But they just need to like grow up a little, get a little bit more weapons on both sides of football. I mean, like their defense actually played incredible. It was their first year. They were in total. They were supposed to go eight nine. Yeah. So it's just games that are real last year. We were questioning. It just feels to me like they're the type of team that's just their their trajectory is still going up, whereas a lot of teams are like, oh, man, I don't know if they'll make it back here after yeah, after that, whatever, you know, so that's exciting for them. And then like flipping it to the other side, like the Rams. They I don't know. I didn't I wasn't super impressed with the Rams in this game. I think obviously it hurt that Stafford was had a finger issue. And so like they couldn't really throw the ball very well. It felt like a kind of a strange game plan from Sean McBae who, you know, they were running the ball well. And then they just kind of like abandoned the run for whatever reason. It was just a strange game from the Rams. I do agree with Craig. What you said earlier, I think they're the better team. Certainly as a CX fan, I'm more afraid of the Rams than I would would have been of the Bears. So that, you know, kind of suck for my point of view. I'm like, I'd rather even even with the Pope behind the Bears. I think I was still would have rather had the Bears. But yeah, the Rams, you know, tough win on the road in overtime. Respect to that kicker for making that kick. I kind of thought he was going to miss that. I did too. So, you know, good for them to, to gut out a win even though it wasn't pretty. Have you ever felt more confident about which game will be the late game next week than C. Hawks Rams? I think they already announced it. I mean, I would put everything I own on that thing the night game. Let's see, let's see. You're instead of big slanted football. Yeah, you're right. So DK, you were more, you were more nervous about the Rams winning this game and you were rooting for the Bears for as a Seattle fan. Well, yes. And it's nothing really against the Bears. It's more just that C. Hawks have a long history with the Rams and the Rams for whatever reason have even going back to when they fucking sucked. They were always kind of the thorn in the C. Hawks side. They always just put up really tough games against the C. Hawks. I mean, you're also talking about the C. Hawks here. We also have to, I mean, we'll get to this all week. Sam Darnal versus the Rams in the last. Oh, God. 53 weeks. I'm going to in order here is one when he was with the Vikings. Sam Darnal took nine sacks versus. I'd have to bring it up right now. In the wild card round. Then he played the Rams as a C. Hawks in the first game this year and he threw four in receptions. Then they had that crazy game that Seattle ended up winning. But even in that one, Darnal threw two picks, including I think one at the goal line and after five chances to win the game and all these in probably ways, the so excited up winning. But yeah, I mean, Darnal, I would say three of the worst five games of his career were against the Rams last 53 weeks. Sure. And he has this oblique injury. We should do, I have an idea. We should do this thing where we like guess, we guess the line of what the spread is going to be for the games next week. Interesting. Interesting. Interesting. Interesting. Considict here. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what we call that, but we can do. We can try to guess the lines for next week. Like, do you think? The Rams, Seahawks games this year have been decided collectively by three points total. And like one yard. So you want to say, you say, guess, you want to like predict the spread or something. Yeah, like, you know, like right after the games tonight, Vegas already puts out lines for the games next week. And I was like, what if we should try to guess what those are? I would say right now, if I had to guess that the Seahawks are going to be favorite by a point now. That's exactly what I was going to say, Craig. So it had in my mind. Maybe two and a half, but I would say one and a half is my guess. One and a half yards. That's the line. What is it? It's two and a half and that's just because the Seahawks won an absolutely fucking dominant fashion. I thought that was my guess. I didn't look it up. Yo, you guessed two and a half. Oh, okay. What was it telling me it's one and a half? No, I said, what is it? You said you look like you were looking at it. Why would I supposed to know? I mean, I'm guessing I that would be cheating. I said, what is it? You answer. I was supposed to give a guess before it is two and a half after all that fucking. He knew that. No, I do that. Dude, that's such bullshit. If I looked it up and then you would have a man. It doesn't matter. I got to say, this was a weird McVeigh game. Like, didn't run the ball when they should, when it seemed like they just needed to get things going. They were throwing the ball three straight times in the middle of the field. And then when it got down to, you know, the important moments, they would run the ball and they wouldn't throw it. I mean, there was a crazy moment in the fourth quarter where there's two minutes and seven seconds left in the game. They run the ball and then just put it back to base to their balance. Yeah. It was third and ten and there's two minutes and seven seconds left and the bears had taken a time out. So the Rams would have the opportunity to throw the ball and try to get the first down, which would really, really almost end the game. Maybe they just would get the ball back or get the ball like twenty seconds left because there's no benefits running because if you run on third and ten, it's just going to go seven seconds, two minute warning and you're not going to, and the bears, if between the action of passing the ball and the punt, it's going to go to the two minute warning before the bears take the ball back anyway. So you think the Rams should pass it and instead they just do a draw and get like three yards and they put it back. Yeah. And they forego the opportunity to not give the bears the ball back and then the bears came back and scored a freaking touchdown on tied the game, which would have been a huge issue. But overall, I agree. I think, first of all, we got to go. Dennis Allen, the defensive coordinator for the bears, out coach Sean McVeigh in this game. I don't know how else to say it. Unless you want to put the issues on Matt Stafford's little thingy being her and his back locking up after 20 weeks of it, not locking up in the Chicago cold or what you want to say. But the Rams have a larger offensive line against a very, very, very overmatched bears front seven. Frankly, bear, linebacking units as her and defensive lines as bad as the bears this year. Don't make it this far. And the Rams offensive line, they put a ton of money into bullying, those kind of front sevens. And really like they taught, not calls worth who was doing that game. They were talking about Jacquon briskers. I don't understand what happened because the bears, that was the pivot they made when the packers started like 21 nothing or whatever against the bears. And then Dennis Allen started doing that kind of like secondary, getting the core backs and safeties involved in blitzes. And that's kind of what the packers off. I don't understand how it was so effective against the Rams when they had a whole week to look at that stuff. But Jacquon briskers, but Dennis Allen out coach McVeigh in this game. I mean, there was all this talk during the week about how Stafford is not a cold weather quarterback and like people, whether people trying to convince you one way or the other, whether that was true or not, obviously going back to like his time with Detroit. People use that as an example. But I mean, he was 20 of 42 in this game, less than, less than 50% completions. I think he was super narrative. He was great last year against the Eagles in the fucking snow. Also, who's a perfect in the snow? Like when it's 10 degrees. And it's last it's harder to throw in the stuff. I'm like, who's throwing 80% everyone's worse than the snow? Like, you know, sir, like Tom Brady or something. He's 37 at a hurt finger and it's 10 degrees. Everyone's going to be worse in that scenario. Yeah, you try it. Like people were treating it like it was the golf indoor outdoor stats. Like it's not at all. It's just really cold and it's going to be hard for everybody. That being said, they were offense kind of look like shit. I would say that. Stafford didn't play well, but I don't think it's because like Stafford has never been able to play well in cold weather. No, just everything was a little off, but at the end of the day, the Rams got 85. It's not like Caleb was crushing it. Caleb was also like 20 for 40. I think he was. Let's use 23 out of 42. Yeah, they both sucked. Kind of. The Rams got 85 yards in their first drive. And then they got like 89 yards in their next like six or seven drives. And I. And they have even the run. Mostly. I think what's weird is it took so long for the Rams to get their tight ends involved. I think that's really what's strange. The Rams are trying to chip and block all these blitzing DBs. But that maybe that's really what the Bears key did on it. That was to me, the Rams advantage in this game was that with all those three like 13 personnel stuff, it's kind of like the Niners, the Bears don't want their linebackers on the field. Their linebackers are hurt. And so the backups all suck. And you I kind of thought the rent like like Colby Parkinson and Ferguson were going to dominate. And they eventually did get the explosives that got them that other touchdown drive was like Parkinson a big run down. But yeah, they couldn't do stuff in the middle. But overall. I don't know. It'll be fast considering how much this the sea hawks beat the 49ers ass. Lat like just what a high the CLC defense is on. It is going to be pretty awesome that like this rent see I mean for decades probably going to want to crawl into a hole watching. Yeah, don't talk to me. But it's the ideal NFC championship. I would say it is feels representative of the season. I mean, it's objectively. I mean, according to a lot of different things, the two best teams in the NFC. Yeah. So you know, I think it. Yeah, maybe in the league. Maybe in the NFL certainly feels like it's been inevitable. It feels like since week five, I've been saying like it's going to be the sea ox versus the Rams in the end of this thing. And so yeah, I was one of the things before we move on from the Rams to sell this from Tampa, Zuda. The Rams were in 11 personnel in this game 85% of the time, which is a departure from what they've been doing. They you know that we talked so much about how they're playing 13 personnel and how that sort of dictates terms so that like wondering what the strategy there what why they why they decided to do that. I don't get it because I'm not a smart asshomic. But the whole thing is the Rams, the Bears secondary is their advantage. And again, what we're talking about is when the Rams put three tight ends on, it's either either match with linebackers, or if you put smaller defensive backs out, then the Rams will run on you, which is why they're really effective running the ball. And so the Bears defensive backs are their strength. They're really, really good at defense like talent wise defensive back and Dennis Allen the coordinator that's a specialty. So you think the Rams would want to run more three tight and sets because the Bears line backers are all hurt. And they're all like, you know, third, fourth, fifth stringers. I don't understand why they were doing that so much. I don't know what the idea was. I mean, obviously it didn't work like this was the Rams lost this game because they couldn't move the ball. But you know, they made it. This game just felt like a like a just survive in advance. Both teams were messy. It was all over the place. It was just like everybody was dodging bullets left and right. There were tip passes all over the place that were almost intercepted. It just felt like a you just got a survive. I would not say the Rams outplayed the Bears significantly. And yet I would agree that I the Rams are the are the better team deserve to win. Can we talk about one more thing before we move on from the Rams? So the Rams as we agree were affected by the elements. Do you do you guys think it's weird that the snow and the cold and the wind affected the Rams? Even though it was very clearly reported that the Rams all put Kay and Pepper in their socks to put that during cold. Right. I haven't heard that one before. Is that a thing that people talked about? It is a thing. What do you mean it's a thing? It's a thing in football that people put Kay and Pepper in their socks. In their socks. Not in their jocs though. I texted some friends of mine who played high school football because I only played my freshman year and I was kind of a fifth quarter type of player. But I asked is the Kay and Pepper thing real and they were like, yeah, I got to tell you. I don't believe them. And I know it's a placebo but I think it's really funny. Kay and I have to tell you I think we're we got to try this. I think one of us went for the Super Bowl over together. We're going to have to put Kay and Pepper in our socks. Unfortunately, it's going to be like 75 degrees so that won't be super fun. We're going to have high school sweaty. Yeah. When it mixes with the sweat. Oh, God. I shouldn't have done that tonight but I really want to put my foot in there. Your feet are going to be raw. Yeah. How much Kay and Pepper do you think it is? We talking like a tablespoon? How much? That's what I'm wondering. How much sprinkle? They also bought the Kay and Pepper that they showed. I don't know if they broadcast had one from the Rams or if they bought the Ram but it was the whole food's kind. That's expensive. Whole food's just a lot. It looks full. It looks like a box. If you're the intern at the NFL who had to go buy that, please. They allow smelling salts but they don't but or they don't allow smelling salts but now you can do Kay and Pepper willy nilly. What's that all about? What if you snort the Kay and Pepper is fine? And put the smelling salts in your feet on your feet. You get happy feet. That's not bad. Anyway, I just don't know. Anyway, the Rams are worth like eight million dollars and their players are putting Kay and Pepper in their socks and they're like, oh, those really help. Whatever. DK, yeah. What is your, so CX, we'll get to the game in a second. What is your immediate reaction to CX? What's the point in the Rams other than just dread? I mean, it's just going to be a great game. It's going to be an awesome atmosphere. Like if you look at what the atmosphere was like in Seattle against the 49ers, I imagine it's going to be very similar. I mean, it's great. Play a football in Seattle. Love it. Some of the best crowds. Tonight in Chicago and last night in Seattle. The Niners CX games sounded like a college game. It was rocking and it's going to be super cool. Has some friends that went to the game said the vibes were out of control good. It felt like the 49ers didn't travel that well, which is great. I mean, even going back to years, the 49ers fans traveled really well. And they were going to. They were going to. They all got hurt. Well, you know what? It was the substation brought down all the night. Right. Right. Do you know the CX actually, to your point, this, I think what the CX did is because obviously whether. Just season ticket holders sell their seat tickets or do you go? Right. Oh, yeah, right. I saw what Seattle did. So Seattle emailed them and politely told their season ticket holders. I forget with the exact language, but they were like, Hey, just a reminder, if we think that you're in the season ticket holder business to try to sell them as your primary goal, blah, blah, blah. Basically, like if you sell your seats, we're, we got a whole lot. You're out. We're going to send a guy that looks like big dom to your door. If we get a sense that you might be selling those tickets, they're like, if we, we're going to look at every nine or fan on this camera and the stadium and we're going to be like, what seats are they at? And we're going to get really your tickets. So it worked for the crowd. So I mean, DK, how quickly did you know that this game was over? It's 41 to 6 to see how to beat the Niners BTA as Michael Irvin would say, how quickly did you know it was a wrap? This was one of the least stressful games I can remember. Considering it's a playoff game against what are the, probably the most hated rival I could imagine. I mean, the Rams are up there too, but the 49ers, there's just so much history and bad blood there. Considering the stakes and the opponent, this was one of the least stressful games I can ever remember. Literally one of the least stressful sea outgames I can remember. It was so much fun. Your whole line is always a familiar feeling after a sea ox win, misery. And it's not miserable for one second of this game. In fact, they scored on the opening kickoff. And after that, I was like, this is just going to be kind of this kind of game. Fun fact. The sea ox scored seven points in the opening kickoff. The Niners did not score seven points in the entire game. Why? It was like they were sheet, sheet scores. And then like the second play of the Niners, it looked like it was potentially a fumble return. Or really? And I was like, oh my god, this is going to be bad. And then like, it was zero. Oh my god. Immediately a turnover on downs and the surf's going to feel gold and the surf's going to touch down. And just it was, it was an avalanche. It really was in both first of them. Score margin was exactly the same as the Super Bowl when the Stilx destroyed the Broncos offense. That was like the best sea ox to the best modern defense. The Broncos broke every record for offense that year. And then defense with championships, they kicked a shit out of them. Yep. And this game was in terms of, it was over very similarly. It was immediately over. It felt just, you know, what the Niners never had a chance. I mean, yeah. And if you look at, because look, the sea ox played the 49ers two games in a row. It was kind of weird how the schedule kind of played out that way because they had the buy. But going back to two last, the last two games for the sea ox 54 to nine total points. No touch. PTA. The eight straight quarters against the 49ers without allowing a touchdown. They obviously, like you said, the 49ers didn't even outscore the first play for the sea ox in that game. The sea ox defense had pretty an absolute hell. I think they just came in knowing that they were going to just kick the 49ers ass from the very beginning. And the 49ers really just couldn't do much at all. The sea ox had, I saw this stat. I'm sorry, I don't remember who I saw it from. 47% pressure rate on a 10% blitz rate. So they were just getting pressure without blitzing the entire game. It just makes it so difficult as a quarterback to deal with that. Another, another game with pretty basically, you know, his passing chart looks like something Bryce Young would produce in terms of just like dump offs and small little throws. So another thing, I don't know like exactly what is going on with 49ers, but literally the last two games, the CX played against 49ers, two of the three worst games by EPA for dropback of Kyle Shannon's coaching career with. I think the sea ox, what's going on with the 49ers? They just absolutely freaking dominated. So yeah, I mean, this was this was a very fun game to watch. So I mentioned the nineers. We have to mention, so Christian McCafferty or his shoulder in this game, Jake Tonjes, was actually playing really well with George Kittle torn his killies and then Jake Tonjes himself got hurt. Jordan James, the rookie running back got his first touch of the season in the second half of this game. He played three stamps that they call a year like the Niners, the substate Katie Nolan posted on Blue Sky Katie Nolan was like, we can all laugh about whether the substation, you know, EMFs raise or hurting the Niners, but like whether that's true or not, we do have to figure out what's going on with this team because the Niners just all destroyed. My personal theory is all the players that were hurt six years ago are still on the team on the team and everyone's like still hurt. But the Niners that's going to be a whole off season for them. I got to tell you, I'm curious you guys think I think the team that was exposed in the ox Niners is the Eagles because the Eagles inability to move the ball at all on this Niners team with their fourth, fifth and sixth string linebackers and the ease that the sea ox dominated all three phases of the game. I think it actually makes the Eagles lost look even worse in retrospect. I don't know, I don't know Craig. You feel that way, but. Well, and I'm happy. I texted my dad as a huge nine or fan. I texted him after the game saying like, you know what? Look, I think you have to look at the season as a win. This team was not a super bowl team, especially with how injured they were. But one thing you did do is you saved all of us collectively from having to watch more Eagles football. And thank you for that. I know. I wouldn't have wanted to risk the Philadelphia potentially beating Seattle and inching closer to a possible super bowl, which is worst case scenario. So I agree with you, I think it's remarkable that the Eagles couldn't do anything with that with all the talent. Also, we didn't really talk about it, but the whole Sam Dardled saga. He got injured in practice like two days before the game. And I mean, we talked about a little bit on the previous show, the preview show. But yeah, that was like a whole different dialogue here. How did you think he looked? I think he looked pretty good. Honestly, like he didn't have to do a lot. He only threw 12 or really had 12 completions in this game. But the few times that he kind of had to let it rip, there was that touchdown to J.S. and in the back. Really nice. It was an incredible throw across his body. He's drifting to his left, threw it to a spot in the very back corner of the end zone to J.S. And I thought that was an amazing throw. But overall, like, Kent Walker being able to run the hell out of the ball, like they didn't really have to do a whole lot with the passing game. And they didn't ask a lot of me. I had 124 yards passing. So with the defense doing what it did, the run game, absolutely dominant. So Kent Walker had three touchdowns on the ground, which is hilarious because of 49ers for every reason, love to talk shit to Kent Walker. Lenore, their corner was chirping all year and like, what's his name? Joanne Jennings just, you know, talking so much trash. And then I felt great for Kent Walker to be able to go out there and do what he did. Because I think he was the target of a lot of their trash shock for whatever reason. But yeah, super fun game. And you should say that Zach Sharman, they got hurt, hurt his knee. Zach Sharman, they got hurt. He had a knee injury left for the rest of the game. It sounds like at least what I know right now, the indication is it's not season ending. It's not structural. So that could be a good thing. But yeah, they don't have like a good backup. I mean, Vialis Jones Jr was the guy who came in after Sharman, he went out. So yeah, hopefully he hopefully Sharman, he's not seriously injured for this next game. Okay. Well, speaking of season ending injuries, should we? Yeah, I mean, the Denver Broncos deals game. I there are so many bizarre things to talk about this game. I and we could get into a lot of the refereeing with this game. So the Broncos beat the bills 33 to 30 and over time. But I actually think the craziest thing that happened on weekend was that while the nine years CEO of SCAM is going on, we find out that Bonix has a who gave the post game interview. Sean Payton does a post game press conference and then comes back. It does another one. And then it turns up Bonix broke his ankle on a kneel down. Wild and then I go back and watch. No, he didn't break it on the. It was before the kneel down. You can see the play where it happened. He's like kind of scrambling the left in the defender like yanks his ankle. It doesn't look like anything bad. I think kind of gets up and is fine. So I think you got hurt on that play a little and then he throws the past to Marvin Mims that gets past interference then they move down. And then I think he made it worse on the next play. I don't totally understand what happened. But I neither of them looked that bad. And again, like you said, he gave the post game interview seemed fine. And then but you know, it's so funny. So that was with I think Tracy Wilson and CBS. And then she posted that someone had taken a photo of them talking. And Bonix actually was on one leg, the entire conversation. But I don't think she knew because she's like five feet tall. She's just looking straight up at him. But like he's just on one leg and kind of an agony. There was so my buddy is a Broncos fan and he came over after the game to where we were watching the see hocks game. And he was like, I don't know, man. There was a video of Bonix at the very end of the game where he's kind of trying to like jump up and down a little bit on the sideline. And you can see him wins. Yes. Very, very like extreme pain. And my buddy was like, I don't know, man. You guys got to like look into this because he looked like he was really hurt. And then like a few minutes later, we found out he broke his ankle. That was insane. So you can see it on the you can see it on the broadcast. He had like this moment where he was like, Oh God, something is seriously wrong here. It's a massive bummer. I know that we like blue balls don't make fun of Sean Payton. And the whole thing, but this is such a rugpole for Denver fans. It was such a huge win for them. I mean, the whole Jared's did him thing is obviously depressing for like the larger Super Bowl possibility of like, there's a world in which Drew Lock and Jared's did him or play each other to Super Bowl in three weeks, which is fucking terrifying. Don't say that. I'm just saying that's that is like, relatively, I would take the Super Bowl. I hope you have. But yeah, this is terrible. I mean, that was a great Broncos win in it. Like it was cool to see a new team kind of ascending. I mean, I wanted to know it was that I was running for the bills and it was sad. I was too, but like I wasn't I wasn't going to be upset if the Broncos were in the Super Bowl. I would have been like, this is cool. We have a new team. Yeah, we went. Let's just say we went from Josh Allen to Jared's did him. Yeah, it's a terrible fucking run out for every point involved. No one is happy from the fall to this game. The bills fans are pissed and upset with their own team. They're mad at the referees. The referees are probably in hiding. And Broncos fans are like talking themselves into Jared's did him and they're looking at Nick Folls tweets about being like, don't worry, the Patriots can't be back in quarterbacks. And Broncos fans under 40 are Googling Jeff Haas, Netler and like, you know what I mean? Like it's really it's grim and everyone involved from this. No one really came out that much better. I mean, Broncos Super Bowl odds are lower now than they were before the Phil's Broncos game began. I mean, yeah, quarterbacks are important. I mean, we saw like Richard, sorry, Roger Sherman tweeted this during the last during the last part of the games that I think ironically the Broncos are the only team in the NFL who did not have their backup quarterback take a snap this season or last season or last season. So Stedom hasn't taken a regular season snap since before last season. It's it's it's crazy. We're going to talk about Stedom a lot this week. I have a feeling, but we have to get into this game and bills Broncos and there's so much with this game, but we have to just get ready to do it, which is 3330. Broncos went in over time, but there is a lot of calls that were questionable. We have to get right to it. The interception. Yeah, the Brandon cooks. People are still talking about this. This is a huge thing. I talked to I got breakfast this morning. My waiter was talking about it. Yeah, that's huge. I have a very strong opinion. I lean a certain way. Do you guys you want to just get into? I do. Did you think it should have been a catch or do you think it should have been an reception? I think it should have been an interception clearly. DK. My initial reaction watching the game was that they made the right call and the more I've watched it, it's kind of like the bell curve meme like I went and I watched it a bunch and a lot of people were saying on Twitter like arguing for it or whatever. The screenshots are rampant. It was a catch whatever. I think ultimately it was an interception, but I don't understand why other plays that are almost identical to this play have been called catches in both this. So this bears Rams game. There was the Devante Adams catch. I don't understand how that was any different than the cooks catch. It's completely different. How? How? He came, he recovered or he went to the ground and what is it called? You have a continued reaction like he brought them all to the ground with them and retained it through the play. Brandon cooks. I don't know about that, but here I think a better one, a better example was the Aaron Rogers play from earlier this year against the Ravens where he batted the ball got bad and he caught it and then the Ravens took it away from him almost instantly. They called him down. How was that any different? I also think to be totally honest. I don't think comparing a quarterback catching a pass is anything like a receiver catching a pass 40 yards downfield. It's my point is this is really inconsistently. The simplest way for me to convince you that this is clearly an interception is if there were no defender there and it was just Brandon cooks and the ball came out at the end. It's clearly an incomplete pass. Right. So why wouldn't it be an interception? It's completely grief Craig and it builds fans. I love it. Unfortunately, I would love Josh. I know I just I would love for Josh. Not you. He's like this doesn't make it to the TV that we're all pretty much agree. I see this is something I agree. I wanted to build the win the game, but I was like, look, if there was no defender there and that or if or if neither of them catch that ball, if it ends up at no one's hand, it's not a catch in a funnel. It's an incomplete pass. I agree. I hate. I know people got mad about the screenshot. I implore if anyone's like listening to this being like, how is no one arguing against it? Watch the play in real time and do what Craig said and watch the play at full speed. Not slow mo, not a screenshot. Pretend the defenders not there and look how quick the ball comes out the moment. Brande Cook sits the ground. It's like not instantaneous, but might as well be instantly the second brand of cook sits the ground. The ball flies out. That happens every game in the NFL, a defender, a receiver has the ball hits the ground. It's incomplete. It just looked weird because the ball ended up in the defender's hands that it looked strange. I agree, Craig, if the defender was there, it'd be simpler. I just go in order because I know people were like, oh, 54 yards in the final drive over time. The first pass interference, so after that it goes down the bill's defense. The first pass interference, which was Terence Johnson, a court and a sudden, was bullshit. That was a terrible call. Even that one kind of doesn't matter because Joey Bosa was also flagged for roughing the passer. Very justified. So that was going to be like 15 yards no matter what is the truth is because Joey Bosa totally roughed him. And then the second pass interference, which was the big one, which was the Trudevice White getting flagged for Marvin Minnes. That was 100 percent pass interference. Trudevice White got fucking cooked by Marvin Minnes and he just grabbed him and almost brought it, tackled him from behind because he just was going to give up a touch down in the game. So unfortunately, my take on the whole refereeing thing, the bills, I know people were mad about the referee calls it overtime. The bills would not have been an overtime if Josh Allen did that hand Denver three points at the end of the half. And that totally changed the game. Was the two fumbles in the replays? They had five turnovers. I think that was the worst turnover of Josh Allen's like recent career, like him scrambling at the end of that half there with the ball just hanging out and fumbling that just giving up an extra feel going going into halftime 23 to 10 was unforgivable. And I think the bills have been screwed a lot, obviously historically. But even in the Josh Allen era, I think there are many other games that you can look to and be like, man, they got screwed there. It should have gone a different way. I mean, they changed the overtime rules because of the chiefs bills game. This game, I don't think is one of the the pantheon bills got screwed games. Unfortunately, it's it's shaping up to go down like that though. Craig, like people are I rate no, because people are absolutely losing their mind. Bill's fans who are online. You just see people bills fans that I know in real life understand James Cook fumbled on the second drive and field goal range. Josh Allen through a pick for five yards outside of field goal range. And it can't stress enough. He fumbled like the fumble at the beginning of the second half was like a great play by the Broncos. Still a strip set that led to a field goal. There was two fumbles in three plays that led to six points for Denver and a game that went to overtime. But the one before half is what Josh Allen, I think, is like weeping about at the press conference, which was horrible to watch, which is he's like crying and say, I let the team down, which is terrible for a guy that obviously they would never be there without him. That play people were mad. Well, why are the bills trying to score with like 13 or 16 seconds left or whatever it is? What are you doing? The answer is you're a problem with that. No, you know why they're trying to score because they trust Josh to not do what he did. And here's my issue with Josh on that play. And I think Josh is holding the ball like a loaf of bread holding the ball like a loaf of bread. Why is that expression by the way? He's holding the ball. It's so nonchalant that I think is the problem. It's not fighting for yards. It's not doing it. He was holding it in a way that was so it's very like dad at Thanksgiving, like, like, like, you know what I mean? Backyard football, like it was so nonchalant. It's like when you're going on a run at home, like on the street and you're like carrying your phone, like it was unprofessional. It was unprofessional. And the Hulk reason they're out there is, well, we know Josh, he didn't turn the ball over. And how many playoff games? I think 200 pass attempts, like six playoff games. It was like an NFL record. He had gone 427 snaps without a turnover. And he had two in the next three snaps. And he was like that all game. He actually almost got stripped sack like seven times in this game, but like that one was, it didn't. So I feel terrible for him. But I'm a, the bills did it to themselves. Both teams are sloppy. I mean, Broncos fumbled twice in their first two drives. The bills didn't get either of them. You know what I mean? The Broncos Pat Bryant got the first three catches from Bo Nick's. He got hurt. Broncos offense couldn't really move the same. I mean, also, the bills defense played great because I know they gave up. So 33 points in this game. But I look at this game. The bills, unfortunately, the Broncos got two touchdowns in this game by just a defensive back and Buffle got hurt. And then they came in and Sean Payton dialed up the perfect play to attack the defensive back on a double move that came in. And they scored twice on guys that defensive back just came in the game. That's just smart right there, man. I actually like love the savageness, the brutal, the mercilessness of that doing that. It almost makes me like Sean Payton. Almost. It's sad. This is sad. This was sad loss. I mean, look, Bo Nick's made some in sick throws in this game too. Like that throw to Marvin Mim's for a touchdown late in the game was a dime. Yeah. So I don't know. Yeah. It's funny that we all kind of agree about that play. Oh well. I know that maybe people are screaming and there's something when I think about what I can't stress enough that you're right, though, Craig is if the defender wasn't there, watch it in full speed. He hits the ground. Like it's not a catch. It happened in the interception. It's weird. I just. This is how every catch is like two two-feet in bounds matters. But then you have to continue through the rest of the play. You have to hold the ball through the tackle into the ground. Yeah. And if it pops out, that's not a catch. And people are going to pop out and just put that in no defenders hands. So many screenshots of the NFL playbook the last 24 hours. I'm like literally reading all the five or six things you need for it to be a catch. I got it. This is one I hate being the person who is defending the rest, but unfortunately you need referees. They fix the catch and will think pretty well. There's a lot of pass attempts at every freaking game. I got to tell you that there's always going to be issues at the margins. I think they did a pretty good job from when they were 10 years ago. But the Devonte Adams one from earlier, I knew you brought it up to you. It's he's on ball. He's on two knees holding the ball, like fighting for yardage. And like it's totally different. He survived the ground. I don't know. I don't I disagree with that, but it doesn't really matter. I think ultimately they got that. He's not even bobble in Devonte. I can't caught that. He had two feet down and he survived the ground. How is that not a catch? I would argue that he didn't survive the ground, but it doesn't matter. We don't need to really get that. So I was I just think it's inconsistently officiated, and that's one of the problems with the league in general is and I think that's why people are so pissed. But ultimately it forced Gene Starrator to post like 200 words. He's tweeting through it. Yeah, I actually yeah. It's very jargonny. And well, this is this is yeah, I bristle a little bit about how if it's saying they fixed the catch roll because I don't think they did. Like I think it's a thousand completions a year. What do you want them to do? You want none of them to be controversial? I don't want it to be I don't want to have to fucking talk about it every week, which it feels like we do. What do you want to do? There's always going to be called what it rule is. I don't know what the I don't know what the like solution is. I just say you saying it's fixed is not right. If it I actually totally disagree because if it what it takes for a catch to be argued about for three days is where receiver comes down and a defensive back has to reverse summer salt come out like Willie Wonka and like actually I have the ball and that's yeah. That's a weird play. It like never happens. That's what it took for us to be like. Okay, it also happens kind of is having like at least three times this year, but well there's 12,000 fucking completions every year. It's hard to fucking decide the role. I don't know. I think that the if if we're really getting into the nitty gritty, the football play technically is like too generic. You know what I mean? That's what I think we're I think we used to argue about this. I think when I started the ringer in 2017, it was like there were like eight of these a week. I think if they had fixed the catch roll, we wouldn't be having this conversation. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know that we make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make a make Honestly, the other one is that Josh Allen had the only throw. Josh had so many incredible thoughts. He missed Knox on the seam route. Yes, at the end of regulation, the reason they could still go over time. There's so many opportunities. It wasn't like an easy throw, but Josh makes that throw all the time. Is he should have hit Knox for the touchdown? It would have been bills take the lead in regulation. It would have been like a legacy Josh Allen drive. Or as Tony Ramos says, legacy Mahomes drive. How dare you? How dare you? It's hard to announce a game. There's a lot of names. There's a lot of names out there. Mahomes is always in the playoffs. There's a lot of names. He was playing the odds that it was Mahomes. Most of the time you're right. I actually understand why. Roma in like Back to Back series called Josh Allen Mahomes, and he also got the down wrong. And I understand why he did it both times. My dad can't even get me and my brother right. You know, it's like it's hard. It's a fair point. Yeah, my dad's called me his dad's name. Who's the past for years. But like I they actually had a Josh verse from Mahomes comparison graphic on like right before that play. And then they faded it out. And then he called him Mahomes like while it was still the text was still up and then everyone did a dirty. And then the down they the graphics. They got the down's wrong. Like when he got the down, but then no one they they clip it put it online and no one knows that. I don't know. I'm not going to be the one to make fun of someone for getting a name wrong. I feel like that's kind of my will house. Very brave of you. Even though I guess I did make fun of them earlier. Anyway, anything else in this this bill's Broncos game. I feel like I sound anti bills, which I'm not. I wanted the bills to win desperately. I wanted Josh Allen and the FCJ. I bishop desperately, but I was like, look, that wasn't a catch. And Josh Allen had more mistakes than he usually does. I don't know what to say. He was a little sloppy. Well, here's my question. DK, bills, fins are mixed. Do you think the bill should fire Sean McDermott? Thank you. Oh God. That's a big question. I don't know. I guess make of the presser after the game. Like, he was pissed. Well, sorry, he was right. This is the mistake the rest made. They went through it really quickly. They, the real issue the rest made was they didn't take the time to properly review that catch. That I agree. That was insane that they didn't do that. There was people that said because they went to overtime, the NFL was like trying to hurry the game along so they could get to the sea. I see. See, I see. I think that is the worst reason. It's the worst reason to rush that. I agree with that. And I also think that ends up being why it's so angry. Because if they had done the whole, hey, we're going to look at this four times thing. And then the referees came out and said, upon further review, he did not survive the grab blah blah blah. But the lack of explaining it, I think, then that's what Sean McDermott was screaming about is, or not screaming, but as presser, he was like, how do you never see that? I agree. He was angry. They put the Niners' jokes back in 20 minutes and they're like, we can't spend five minutes on this play. I do think that's real. I think to not to skirt your question, if I was going to fire anyone, I would fire the GM over I would over firing McDermott. If I was in position to run. Yeah. Why? Because Josh Allen is throwing the Tyrell Shavers and branded cooks. Although, cooks kind of looks good in this game. But yeah, I think the fact that you're having to sign a guy off the street or whatever, this late in the season, there's something wrong there. There's something that went awry in the game. Especially when you're yelling at the media for like not drafting a receiver and all that stuff. I got it. Braining cooks didn't look bad. Although, Braining cooks had some tough playoff moments over the last five, six years on like four different teams. But you know, well, you know, the other GM I'm at at? Omar Khan, Pittsburgh. Why wasn't Braining cooks on the fucking Steelers? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't understand. Braining cooks look like he's been in the game for years. What the hell? He's a wily veteran that Aaron Rogers would like. Why would you have to get Mark Ketsvall this game like I'm feeling? Braining cooks was good. I don't think they should get fire, or Sean McDermott. I think you got to run it back one more year. I agree. I think it's the same thing like the floor. Like, like, take a week and realize that you're in a still a pretty decent spot. And you have a great team every single year. And you've almost made this your bowl like every year. You don't want to be out here. No, speaking of which though, we got it. So the Broncos are going to advance with Jared Stidem. And they're going to play the New England Patriots. Any chance they beat the Patriots? With Jared Stidem? Yeah. I guess they're mathematically easy chance. Should we predict the spread? Technically speaking, yes, they could win that game. What do you know? They're 22 humans versus 22 other humans. Sure. So maybe what? OK. The spread? Oh, man. I don't know. I don't know. I'm going to say five and a half. No, I think if Vegas wants people to bet on Denver, they're going to have to give them seven. I'm going to say seven and a half. Yeah, maybe it's eight and a half. It's Stidem. Hi, if you should have followed your first instinct. Is it five and a half? It's five and a half. In the words of Bill Simmons, that's going to move. I was not only seven and a half by Wednesday. Well, before we get to even the Patriots, we have to do that. Can we pick Ring or one or seven right now? I'll take minus five and a half right now. Can we lock that in? Time for first. Ring or one or seven. Aldi can't save you from an unexpected drenching. To note again. But they can save you from pouring your pennies down the drain. At Tesco, Fruason, Bloober is a three pound stand. But Aldi's at just one ninety nine. Aldi, always finding ways to save. I think we need a special emergency session here of America's favorite segment though. We sure. Far, we're short. I like that. I love air horn. Do you think Ted Serrano's knows that that is like on Netflix? It's just such a good radio bit. It's such a radio show from the 90s. I would get kicked off Netflix for that if it meant that Ted Serrano's was 50 minutes into our show. I'm going to take that right now. OK, with that big set, Daniel Kelly, leave me alone. Hey, leave me alone for five months here. CJ Stroud. Stroud. The Texans lost 28 to 16 today against the New England Patriots. CJ Stroud was 20 for 47 for two hundred and twelve yards, a touchdown and four picks. All of them coming in the first half. He was sat three times in this game. According to our friend Matt Harman at Yahoo, this CJ Stroud performance was the 10th lowest EPA per drop pack for a starting quarterback in a playoff game since 2007. The 10th was basically the 10th worst playoff performance in the last 20 years. Yeah. The number one worst is Rogers against the Texans last week. But kind of setting that branded cooks. Where were you? Where were you branded? We needed you. DK McCaff dropped that pass. A lot of people don't remember that. So DK, I bring this to you. CJ Stroud, who has just completed the third season of his young career. And he's three seasons in. Three seasons in entering this fourth. The Texans are going to have to think about picking up that fifth year option on CJ Stroud. Where you at was was was year two and three after a really promising rookie season where he had 23 touchdowns and five picks. He was the next guy in the NFL at quarterback. The next two seasons, he's averaging 19 touchdowns and 10 picks per season. Capping it off with the worst game of his career today. CJ Stroud basically the last two years of his career, I want to ask you. Farther Shart. Shart. This was the moment where I kind of turned on strad. I think obviously it was close last week, but he had five fumbles and five picks in the last two games. And he lost two of those fumbles. And I was actually like, maybe this was super reactive in the moment or whatever, but I actually was thinking the Texans should bench him in this game. I thought they should have gone to Davis Mills. I thought he looked like he was completely losing his mind. Like he was, he couldn't complete a pass in the second quarter in particular. He looked like he could not complete a pass. He was like the darn old seeing ghosts thing. He was completely out of it. He'd lost it. I was like, man, they should just go to Davis Mills. And this was actually going to be one of my intrusive thoughts later, but I think teams should be more willing to bench their starter. Kind of like, you know, in the major league baseball playoffs or whatever, whatever game where a starter just doesn't have his stuff that day. And they go to reliever after one inning. Yeah, like even less than a inning and they just go to the reliever because these guys not got a stuff. Let's go to the next guy. Like they should do that in the NFL a little bit more. I understand the implications around it and what it would create over the off season. We got to like prove that we this is our guy and all that stuff. But man, the way he was playing in this game, they would have been way better off going to Davis Mills. I truly believe that he was awful. He was so awful in this game. It looked like he had actually sharded and was trying to play through that. I mean, he, you know, it's hard to kind of get into the mind of these guys obviously aren't from watching at home, but he looked like he had lost his entire every bit of his confidence was gone. It's funny. He had four interceptions and it felt worse. Yeah. When he was trying, he tried to throw about four or five more in the game and they just dropped up because it was rainy and crazy out. I mean, just incredibly inaccurate, really poor decision making looked super flustered. His pocket awareness was bizarre. The pick where he kind of got hit and the ball went up in the air. He was throwing the ball as if nobody was in front of him. He like, almost like didn't take the defender seriously and got intercepted. It was an incredibly weird game and it being the tenth worst playoff performance in the last 20 years. If you look at all the other quarterbacks on that list, none of them were good quarterbacks, four of them were Texans. It's like all the shitty Texans quarterbacks. Brock Osweiler and things like that. He's given a ton in common with that Brock Osweiler Patriots lost in the divisional round and had a lot in common. Another elite Texans defense of like JGWadden, Tchaikovsky and the team, like an incredible team that like just couldn't keep up. And Stroud looked like Brock Osweiler. Like if you just take away the name, you take away everything about Stroud, you would assume that he was a backup quarterback today. And I think that's what I'm so frustrated. It's bad sign when you hope that the explanation for Cicistress performances, maybe his hand was hurt or maybe broken and or the weather was worse than you think. And he's like, oh yeah, it's from Los Angeles. Those are the explanations. I think what frustrates me is that even if those things are true, even if his hands banged up or maybe the weather, it's like the grip on the ball. It was like kind of like, you know, raining in the beginning and then snow. The problem was he wasn't playing at all. Like it was slippery conditions and you have the best defense in the conference. I know. That what I think was so just putting the ball in danger on like every other play. It was the dumbest version of hero ball I've ever seen. And I think it like because he was refusing to do what his job should be, which is if you're under pressure, don't turn the ball, take a sack. Like I think they said the Patriots, rapes advice to Drake May was every every drive any with a kick is fine. Feel goals and puns are fine. Stroud was playing like sacks, especially with a lot of defense. Yeah, I know. And then straddle was playing like a sack was a turnover and he was trying to turn the ball over. Like he was trying to be hero ball, which was insane. And the fact that the Texans defense was so good makes it worse because somehow he threw stroud through four picks. The Patriots didn't get any points off three of them. The only one the Patriots actually got points off of was the pick six, which I think makes it worse. I think the craziest out of the whole day is that Drake May had more picks and fumbles in this game. Then stroud did. Yeah, which is insane. Shadows 20 or 40, not not if not lost fumbles. No, that's my point is the bounce like the texans defense created so many opportunities. Two, they made Drake Fump. There was four times the one bouncer roller that somehow the 10 yard line the Texans couldn't pick it up and run in the end zone. Oh, I think that Bill Barnow maybe made this this joke early in the game or midway through the game. If the Texans had just punted on first down, they could have maybe won this game. For sure. They legitimately were so good on defense. They had they had Drake May's his like back swing of his hand. What is it called when you would whatever he's when he's going back to throw the football? They had that time perfectly. And they they hit it out of his hands at least two or three times and in like incredibly cleanly like Will Anderson. His strips on Drake May those would not have been called as a foul and basketball. They were so good. Yeah, it was just swiping only the ball. It was cool. It was like a coaching point this week or something because they were on it. I think that's the new peanut punch. I remember like 10 years ago when the guys were just punching the football out for force. Fumble was like novel. And it was like, Hey, we learned it from Charles Tillman. And now it's like a thing everywhere. I think this is the new thing where they're like, you actually don't have to sack the quarterback because you can be engaged with alignment and just kind of bat the ball out. It's easier than I think it's going to lead to more quarterbacks get either fingers hit. But I mean, Dante Coppel was flimming at this stat that players who've had three sack only two players have ever had three sacks and two force fumbles in a playoff game. It's since 2000 and it was both against Wil Campbell and the Patriots this place. It was knocked off the way for the title last week and then will Anderson for the Texans. I guess the match is today. So not good. That's one of them. We're like, all right, maybe we're in the harsh on everyone talking about Wil Campbell's our length at left tackle for the Patriots. They take him fourth overall and the draft and then now it's like, oh, everyone's just bull rushing. We'll Campbell back and then just knocking the ball and drink maze and so effortlessly to the points. Never. No one else has ever done to will in any playoff game what they've done to Wil Campbell two weeks in a row. There was an interesting quote with one minute left in the game. The game was over. And I love listening to Trey Akman because he's like angry Chris Collins worth like Collins worth is usually just positive. Better across the board. And Akman just speaks his mind. And it feels like he sometimes he just says stuff that you know is perhaps coming from conversations behind the scenes things he's heard. He drops his little nuggets. He had a quote at the end of the game that I wrote down. He said, this is with a minute left in the game. The game's over. He says CJ Stroud has been chasing his rookie success for the last two years. He's not been the same player. We've not seen the development from him. And there's a reason for that and it has to be addressed. Hmm. Found that to be very interesting. Muggett. I started a podcast because he had a podcast. Yeah. Because it was because he was big brother. Everybody. So he basically likes to work here. Chevy Chase like one year on SNL. He's like, I'm the goat. Fuck all you. See you guys later. I'm going to do my own thing and then it just completely didn't pan out. I think that is what happened. I don't think it's like the same like level of selfishness, but I do think it is the same level of he is trying to have frankly be a hero and have a more active role. Like he doesn't know he's a game manager. And I can't like that's what's frustrating so much of the first half. It's your job is to not turn it over and let the best defense of the year be like a legendary defense. And he kept and he hears the part that frustrates me about what you're saying. Craig CJ Stroud fumbled five times one week ago. That's tied for the most in a playoff game ever. He fumbled five times versus Steelers. And then what do you think they're doing for a week? What do you think they're talking about? Imagine if you were quarterback and you fumbled five times and you won by 23 points because of the defense. And you're thinking about it. It's snowing. You're like, I can't turn all of it. Just going to say and it's like 20 degrees and snowing. Yeah. This is what bugged me about the game in particular is because so Texans fans maybe will think Nico Collins is out. He missed the game. Dalton Schultz got hurt really in the game. Yes. The weapons weren't there. What do you want on these rookie guys? Terrible. Maybe the worst like right now currently that maybe this was the worst offensive line running back tight and wider receiver collection in the entire NFL. Perhaps what the Texans were. I think that's how it's a valid. That's a valid point and a valid argument. But the decision making was still really not really. Yes. It was just gross. It was exactly what Hyphids was saying. He was forcing it. Stop forcing it. Just protect the football. Your defense can win you this game and you're throwing it away. You're literally giving the other team the game just fucking eat it and take a sack. He just drives me nuts. Bros. He looked like Max Bros. And which on the place he bet the place where he was good. He looked like off brand Joe Burrow or Stroud from rookie year. But the other place he was like Max Bros. And so it's inexplicable. But I don't know. Maybe this is the whole pie needs to get better. But it's tough because the reality is the Texans defense are so good because they're better than everyone. And the problem with that is when guys get hurt, you're suddenly, everyone's not better than everybody. And that's the prop why defense is harder to year over year. It's not to be the whole like depressing person who's like, they probably won't be as good on defense next year because it's going to regress. But like that's usually always true. And it's sad because like it's, I don't know, it's crazy to think that you could fumble five times in round one and then come out through four picks in the first half and round two. If you're looking for a silver lining, which this would be a very, very small one is he did play slightly better in the second half than he did in the first. He was falling apart in the first half and I was like, they literally need to bench him. And he, he wasn't a complete disaster in the second half. I'm just again, I'm looking at very small silver linings here. I don't know if that generated enough momentum to sustain the offseason. Sure, sure, sure. It's just trying to throw him a bone here, you know. We should Josh Allen's like, I let the team down and see just how it said the same thing. We should show Josh Allen CG Strauts game. You like look Josh. It's you're good. You're okay, man. Don't worry big guy. All right, I guess should we actually acknowledge the Patriots are playing. Can I tell you guys something? I think I've seen the future. I know what's going to happen. The Patriots are going to beat the Broncos go to the Super Bowl. No offense decay. The Rams are going to beat the Cocks. They're going to the Super Bowl. The Rams are going to be favorites over the Patriots in the Super Bowl. And then the plucky underdog Patriots with their Chippy sick. No one believed it back and quarterback. The Patriots are going to ask underdogs beat the Rams in the Super Bowl. And we're going to have another 20 years in the fucking Patriots. All times a flat circle the dynasty rebuilds from scratch. Stafford wins the MVP. It's the MVP Rams offense. And then with their you know, and just times a flat circle. Don't love that. You know, how are we collectively as a trio here going to handle what's going on with the Patriots? I actually I'm glad you asked Craig. Can I tell you my intrusive thought? I had an intrusive thought this week while we were texting. My intrusive thought is Craig. Doesn't really hate the Patriots at all. You don't hit the Patriots enough Craig. I don't hate the Patriots enough. I don't hate the Patriots enough. No, you don't. I hate when they had Tom Brady. Yeah, but now you kind of like him. Oh, we haven't done anything yet. And I like Drake May and I like Mike Vrable. I know, but you can like those people. It's still I love Mike Vrable and I love Drake May, but I hate them. And I don't want them to win. I think you're really soft on them. Well, I think there's a difference. Okay. So you guys just talking shit about me behind my back. Right? How about I hate the Patriots enough? Okay. Well, here about how about this? Do I want the Patriots to win the Super Bowl? No. Are they my last pick out of the four remaining teams that I would want to win the Super Bowl? Yeah, they're dead last. Does that mean I hate them? No, I don't hate them. I don't hate them. I don't hate Drake May. What about the three of you? I want the other three teams to win more than them. What about the divisional round? Um, out of the eight teams remaining. Yeah, I don't know. Dinkitt, do you get the sense that Craig doesn't hate them properly? He's not a set. Was I supposed to? I'm confused. I was totally joking earlier Craig. I feel like I don't really hate the Patriots either. I don't know. You know, I of all the people in this group, I should hate the fucking Patriots. The Seahawks lost on that. The most horrific game ending play I've ever seen in my life. To be honest, this is representative of the entire Patriots season. I feel nothing towards them. That's kind of how I feel. Every week it felt like they just beat the jets. So I'm like, I don't know what I think about this team. And then last week they beat Justin Herbert in the shitty chargers and then they beat the shitty Texans. And now they're going to beat the shitty Broncos. It's unbelievable. I don't know what to think about this team. It sucks rigged. I hit the NFL. That's what I really hate. You're going to see it. They're going to. I mean, honestly, the truth is, Jürt's did almost definitely going to play better than Seahawks this week. It's actually incredible. The path that New England will have to the Super Bowl is fucking in. He is a man. I think the Broncos have a shot in this game. I'm going to buy a jersey. We should all buy Jared's. I'm Jersey's midweek next week. We should be probably. To support our guy. I mean, it's the back of the day. Are they actually for sale? Can you buy one right now? I imagine you can't. Would you have to do a costum? You're right. Do I just get like a fan one? You got to go on Etsy. Yeah. I'm curious. Bill right now is live on Netflix. I'm like, what is the move if you're a Patriots fan? I think you have to acknowledge it. You have to go look. We got super lucky. Our schedule is super easy. We've gotten super luck in the playoffs. What are you going to do? I think that has to be. You have to lean into it. Yeah. You're not apologizing. Sometimes it gets lucky. Sometimes it's like the Boston Celtics Championship run. You know, sometimes it's just like a really easy opponent's the whole way through. I think they're going to say they dominated all the trouble. Throw that grenade. Sometimes it's like the 2023 Boston Celtics Championship run. It's just really easy. I don't know. I'm staying away from that one. But I do agree with you that you just kind of have to lean into it. You can only play the teams that you play. Exactly. They didn't choose their schedule. What are we going to do? I'm sorry that I don't hate the Patriots enough. I don't get why you hate the Patriots. You fucking beat them twice in the Super Bowl. I know, but I think when you spend so much time of your life, like, Rudy, I spent a month of my life preparing to face the Patriots in the Super Bowl. And then you like end up hating the team because you spend so much time doing that. And like, I guess it's not about because I, again, I liked it. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. I guess what I'm saying is, okay, so you're also walking it back. No. What I'm saying is it sounds like you love the Patriots. What about the 2024 Celtics Championship? What do you think about that? I mean, we all know. I feel about it. I was, I mean, you know, I think it deserves an actress, really. But I know. I think I guess it's someone made that, honestly, my thoughts were summed up by a meme that, I don't know if someone sent this or they put it at us on, on this guy or whatever, but it was the Kray. It was the red carpet thing where Kreg's give it. It's like someone's giving the interview and they were like, that's Kreg just complaining. Like, I don't want the Chiefs or Eagles fans and the Super Bowl is sure I'm tired of seeing the Chiefs and Eagles. And it was Jason Mamoist thinking of mine. It was Henry Cavill and Jason Mamo. Yeah, yeah. It's like the Patriots, which is the fun being like, we're back to this bitch. You don't want Chiefs and Eagles. All right. Here you go. It's a Patriots again. And how they were the villains all along. How much? So like, let's say the past make the Super Bowl, which I think we can all agree. They probably will. If they beat the Rams or the Seahawks, will that be enough to make you say, okay, they're the best team. Yes. Because the problem is that they're likable. I think that that's the problem is that they're likable. And I don't hate Drake May. And they're like, the fucking Patriots fans get this again. They waited four bad seasons without Brady. And then they have Drake May and Vrable. And they're like, the team in the NFL set up for the next day. That's the problem is that they're good and cool and young and gonna win. That's the whole issue. And also sucks that Drake May is like this soft spoken. Seems like a nice guy. Really nice. Everybody loves him. He's like, he's making fucking Christmas cookies every day. People are obsessed. I know. We'll get to the bottom of this. Someone's going to have dirt on him. We don't have enough villains right now. No. Who is the biggest villain? I would have said that. Yeah, it's my homes, but even he's like not super hated personality wise. He's no one hates him. Yeah. He's got a weird voice. That's like the worst thing you can say about him. Nobody wants to be a villain. I, yeah, God. Rogers is going to retire. Who is going to be the source of all or the target of all our iron? What's what's Rogers has gone? I think there's a chance that Sean Peyton and Boenix could do it. Yeah, they're kind of there. I don't hate Boenix. I don't, I like Boenix. I'm totally agnostic about. I think he was also in late and games this year. And I feel really terrible that he's hurt. Yeah, Sean Peyton. I shot Peyton and talk slower than anyone I've ever seen. That's why that's why Boenix was so mad about the play call. This is something I brought. This is, yeah, totally. This is something I brought up with a combine last year. He fill a buster's by talking extremely slowly. The clockman. You ask him a question and it takes him 10 minutes to give you an answer. Yeah, it's something really. He runs up to the clock in the press. He's like, 10 minutes cool. It'll take three questions. It's like to, it's like the, you know, basketball games when they don't have a shot clock. He just passed it back and forth like a half court for like two minutes. That's like him answering a question in a press conference or before the game. This is what made it thought of his before the game. He got interviewed and he took like a minute to say absolutely nothing. I was just like, man, it's like a 98 year old man. I'm bummed that Sean Peyton and Ben Johnson are out of our lives. I'm sure the rest of the NFL season because they're my two favorite coaches to listen to. Well, he's still he's still Peyton still there. Oh, I guess, I guess got him. I'm ready to eliminate them in your show. I'm getting work. I'm getting broken and broken. They won. They won the game. It would be cool if he doubled down and like kept shit talking with your I'd sit him. And he's like, hell yeah, worry at all. Oh God, he's going to be in sufferable if if Stidham can win this. Oh my God, you're going to hear a lot of a Jeff Haas settler. Uh, giants. All right. So you're kind of think they could win though. Of course, that's the things. Of course they could win. Like Nick Folesman, the Super Bowl. Yeah, but you, you guys are looking at it like a foregone conclusion. I'm not going to say that. But I am. I, it's not a foregone. It's Craig clearly you are. Since he's just said he's eliminated. I, he is Craig literally is. Uh, okay. So you're fucking out. I'm fucking it. Any other, um, any other, um, you guys had clearly because it is Sean Peyton and Craig's dick is, uh, you know, the Patriots not playing any teams. I was shocked that during the Patriots Texans game, it was snowing or sleeping. Whatever you want to call it in that game. Mike Vrebel and Demiko Ryan's no hat. Yeah. What? What? Mike, Mike Vrebel's head at the end of that game was soaking wet. Yeah. But that was sick. It's, it was snowing on his head for the entire game. Just wet hair. You're going to catch a cold. Right. You're right. And so what I realized then switching to the Rams, a Bears game, Sean McVeigh and Ben Johnson, hats and beanies. Yeah. And I realized the offensive guys are softer than the defensive guys. The defensive dudes, no hats, snow on the head, the offensive gurus. Gotta keep your head warm. Gotta keep that brain warm. So you can fire up those plays. The defense is real man. Offense guys just wish they were up in the booth. That's right. What's the difference? I'm going to throw a curveball. You Craig here. What's the difference between the visor cap that so many offensive play callers wear? Because that's not keeping your head warm. No, just designed to keep. To keep letting the rain come down on your head. Well, I don't know if it's designed to let the rain. It's for I don't know why else they took the top off. I think it is specifically designed to for some for some take the top off. It is designed for a sunshine. You had to physically go in and take the top off of the fucking visors. John, answer me that. I bet you know why? I think Josh McDaniel before the game because he had a visor on in the fucking snow. I think he threw on the hat and and variable is like you guys take the top of that hat off. You can wear a hat. No top. There's no top of hats in our building. No one on the sidelines are where allowed to wear it. Wait, you're so right. I can't believe Josh McDaniel's were a visor in the snow. That's unbelievable. A visor in the snow. Yeah. Because I guess it keeps you just know what the most nonsensical piece of clothing. He's like, I don't want it on my eyes, but I do want it on my head. The water can get in your hair and drip down your forehead. I can't stress this enough. Mike Raible was soaking wet. Like he just did the ALS ice bucket challenge. This is something that we used to talk about with Pete Carroll all the time. It would be like raining. The rainiest gave you could imagine Seattle and Seattle rains a lot. And he's just sitting there with a mop wet mop a hair. There was one game I remember this in particular. You wore a beanie and we were like, what's wrong with Pete? Is he okay? We're worried about you. Why is he wearing a beanie? Well, they don't have to see because they're not calling plays. Maybe that's part of it. Yeah, like they're just kind of watching. But I'm like, don't you have to watch the game? Yeah. What would you wear if you were a head coach Craig? I would wear what if it was raining? I would wear one of the, you know, those like personal umbrella hats. I was like, boom, they're in space too. Yeah, that would be good. I would be good. Mike Raibull, it'd be badass. He's like, I'm going to make that cool. I'm going to win wearing that. I want to have my get back coach. Just hold the umbrella over my head the entire game. You know, the get back guys. It's not a leashes with the kid of someone holding an umbrella. Typhants, what about you? I kind of like the umbrella hat. That's pretty good. I don't know. Just like the beer helmet. I would go suit. I'd bring back the Tom Langey full suit with the Don Draper hat. I would go like, see, I can get behind that. Yeah. We're like an old like address like the 50s like an old school raincoat. But I kind of like the idea of just bringing you suit back and just being soaking wet and you're fucking suit. I want to have a coach where like one of those, I don't even know what it's called the coveralls. Coveralls. Yeah, that's it. Coveralls. Just get, we got to get a coach cover all situation going on. You know, the old 80s ski cover all things with like where the belt is a little bit in. I want something like that. Can you imagine if Mike variables is holding in umbrella? I kind of think of he's sick. He's not calling plays. He could do it. I think it was the coach most likely to. That's left. No, just in the league. Um. He's not a coach right now, but Mike McCarthy. I could see him with it. Yeah. You know, McVay, I think McVay might have to do a coach forward. I think he could see the place. I think V and BD was kind of a Nick. The speaking of the rain though. So the other one is the sea looks defense is named the dark side. And one of the reasons is like they're. It's dark and Seattle a lot. I got to say Daniel, I wrote that down as an AC. Yeah, I don't support that by the way. Oh, okay. I don't, I don't think I make something that that's a thing. I was unaware of that until the game. They just made that up. I mean, I just realized that they if they went to the Super Bowl, they were like, oh, we're like the Legion of boom, but we don't have a nickname. And they just really, really scrambled for a nickname toward the end. It reminds me of like the. Not sonic and knuckles thing where they tried to tell people to call them something. Well, Dave, I don't come re-engineering Gibbs. We're like called peanut butter jelly and they thought that was lame. So they're like, we're sonic and knuckles and everyone's like, all right. And it's like peanut butter jelly. You're like, all right. The dark side thing doesn't do it for me. Let it William said the sea looks defense just really wanted to differentiate. It's the difference. It's the Legion of boom. And then fellow edge wrestler to Marcus Lauren said that the dark side signifies the unit cutting the lights off the opposing offense. As if darkness itself was the 12th defender on the field and Seattle's also gloomy weather. It's too much. It's a Star Wars reference. We'll explain it also. If if one of the two defenses were to be called the dark side, it's the Legion of boom. They were they were way more dark side energy. I feel like they were way meaner. Right. I mean, we're meaner. That's a good point. Maybe more than the sea ox defense way meter. Yeah, we can keep workshopping that guys. Let's do something different. My only other Ick was the 49ers kicker on the opening kickoff trying to do it trying to trip Rashid Shaheed with like a soccer takeout, which I know I've argued for NFL players being allowed to trip. But if you're going to try to let me do it. I'm pro tackle. You have to hit the guy. Craig, were you pro that play? Uh, if you would have done that, you would have been pro that. Why not football if he does it. Yeah, absolutely running kick. First of all, if he stopped a touchdown, that changes the game. Maybe, but he you can't whiff if you're going to be like, I'm taking his legs out. If he just kept running, could have got him. Can I ask you a question, DK? Mm hmm. Why don't they use Rashid Shaheed more? I feel like every time he touches the ball, it's like a touchdown. When he was on New Orleans last year this year, he is a good capable receiver with Clint Kubiak last year in New Orleans. He was like a top 10 receiver in fantasy before he got injured. I don't know. Why don't he gets like one target a game? Yeah, I don't know. It's been kind of strange that they haven't been able to integrate him into their offense more. They gave him a reverse and he took it for like 30. I'm like, I don't know whether or not using him more. He's great. Yeah. I think a combination of a lot of things, you know, they're trying to run a lot of two tight ends stuff. And so he's off the field. I think on those plays a lot of the time he's not as good as a blocker as Cooper Cups. Cooper Cups is playing in it. So there's like a number of different things. But it is kind of frustrating that he hasn't been integrated into the actual offense more than a lot of these trick plays. I think you can see, I think Shaheed with the speed. I think T defense has taken seriously and he can impact the game without getting the ball. But I also agree he's been the spark plug for the team the Rams game the one that's the only in a way that CX have the one seed because they beat that. The Rams in that game and like Rashid Shaheed getting like a huge. I think it was a pun return or was one of the reasons that the icon Michael's call. Yeah, it's like that was totally cheating. Shaheed Shaheed. He feels the fun. He feels the pun as Shaheed is like running into the edge of the sheet. Shaheed. Yeah, so I think Shaheed will get the ball board that Rams game. Intrusive thoughts. I got one hit me. This hook and ladder works too well. Why don't defense this fucking know this is coming. There's a lot of of these days. It's a much more common play. I mean, I think there should be way more. I agree. They're like nine for ten success rate every time they use them. But it's like this is what I'm saying. But it's like once a game that peep teams use them maybe it's pretty hard to come. No, but it's always in these situations where they desperately need 15 yards. Well, it's in man coverage. There's no way to stop. There's no way to practice. Why can't they sniff them out like they sniff out screenplays. That's what I want to know. Well, there's more of those. It's too obvious. I'm with Craig that there should just be. There should be a hook and ladder like all every game. You should be doing. I mean, I agree with that. Like the fourth down revolution has come and gone. Now it's like the lateral. The fourth down is laterally. I agree. I agree. I think in 40 years, I think laterals. I think it's like options downfield. I think that just like pros have to do it because you can't do hook and ladders and it not work because you'll get fired. But like if it works in the NFL that'll actually trickle down as most football. It's like starts lower levels and the info steals it. But I agree that working in the NFL is good for a conglaterer. I think it does remind me actually as you guys are saying this. It reminds me a lot of the early days of the read option and how teams when they didn't prepare for it or didn't know is coming. We're just they look so lost. I don't know what to do at the bash point because what am I supposed to do? How would be? It's just yeah. It's also so funny because that's one of them when you watch a game with somebody who doesn't watch football at all. And they're like so why is that so hard to defend? You're like, you know, it's a great question. Do it more. You're like, yeah, every time. We're. Does seem to work all constantly. My my interests have thought is just I feel like the Guardian caps get a little bit bigger every week. Just slightly. It's a bit slightly. Yeah, I think I think Romeo Dobbs should be like the poster child for it. I think he should own it and be like, I'm I am the guy who wears the Guardian cap like that's that's my thing. He's the guy I think of when it's a Guardian cap. Who else is there? The most famous Guardian cap guys probably him. It's HN did it but not for that long. Dobbs, I think was the first person. Oh, that's right. We're solving it. Dobbs, Dobbs is the first guy. Which matters. I think it's not. I think was the first person. Oh, that's right. The doing it. Dobbs, Dobbs is the first guy, which matters because a lot of the concern with doing it was they were like players won't wear it. They think it's lame. But now way more players are doing it now than the beginning of last year. Maybe Vrable could wear that to block the rate. Oh, that's good. The coach is where they're great because you got leadership comes from the top. Millions last week. Millions hit him in the face. If he had a Guardian cap, he would be able to just be in a helmet. I don't think they have a big enough Guardian cap to fit on Vrable's head. That's a good point. 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I think I would I would take Domingo. I mean, he's He's not that much. You're rapes huge. Rable is who else is even in the conversation at this. Yeah, I mean, those are easily the number ones the number two Yeah, right. Who's the who's the third guy third guy? Let me go through this Daniel Sean McVeigh was the was the player of the year. I think in Georgia high school over Calvin Johnson That's the best fake thing that I That sounds true. Wait, it's not true. It's not really true. What are you talking about? What does that mean? I We can look at it. Someone emails we've gone through this before it's not like I don't think McVeigh I don't think that like he was a make a wish kit or something or what? I just what did what did Sean McVeigh do in high school? I don't think I just give me his stats and I'll be sure for it He was it he was his Wikipedia He was also named the Georgia for a offensive player of the year over future NFL Hall of Fame. I received a Calvin Johnson Well, you know what why don't we go back and find the voters who decided that Either way, I'm still not taking Sean McVeigh over oh Dan Campbell would be third, right? Dan Campbell's Dan Campbell's up there Dan Campbell versus dude. I'm gonna throw I'm gonna throw one out for you I'm gonna throw one out for you. Okay. This is just pure physics Andy Reed Fucking punt pass six throw champion punt pass kick champion Andrew Reed I kind of think he would wreck shot like Vita Vaya. He's just there. He's like he's the fucking cool aid man He would I mean imagine him versus McVeigh. He would fucking destroy McVeigh Dude now I want to see I want to see this see Vrable. This is a fun. This is a fun You know category or whatever we got to we got to come up with a bracket for this. Here's the key Obviously 30 coaches never do this Mike Vrable and Dan Campbell would actually do it Mike Vrable loves hitting people in practice He like loves I feel like Pete Carol would do it Pete Carol would do it. He would do it. He wouldn't do well Harbaugh Jim Harbaugh Harbaugh would do it Harbaugh is too old at this point. No, what can you heart surgery? I would be worried about Harbaugh He's guy is one cardiac revelation now you think you can't do it alone I kind of think Mike Tomlin would have done well, but does he count any more because he took the year off or whatever You don't take plays off you just take a year or so This is good email us a room for fantasy football team. I'll come. We'll make a bracket. This is good Okay Mike McDaniel Honestly, you would not do it probably last in the history of NFL. I think like Bella check at 70 at 70 is old with being hired season Okay He plays bell check would play a good pad level. He played with good fundamentals What were you talking about? You know what's another interesting thought of mine It's kind of funny that the refs have to explain the rules of overtime out loud Let's just go to my point. I say it every show. There's too many goddamn rules like what other sport does that It's like overtime and basketball and the refs like hold on. I'm gonna be honest with you Craig I kind of want them to do it because I forget every time Just funny like just explaining the rules to the players to their faces right people still don't understand the rules It's like dodgeball. It is like the dodgeball. Yeah explain the relate to 1288 D or whatever they're like all right Sun death. I will say I thought I think I you know, that's our job. I'd like to think I know a lot of the rules not all them I don't know the rules. Someone was like What happens at the clock runs out? I was like oh yeah They just started over and then like trying to google like if there's more clock Just the possession ended. It's the possession continue And I was like I've never thought of this. Yeah, because the well the phrase they use is it's a new game So it's like that that's why you get three timeouts. You're just starting the game over so it's like they do another first quarter again flip So if it give the first quarter ends the second quarter begins and they to keep saying it's a new game So they would do another coin flip After four quarters after the first overtime period no because it just then goes into the second quarter It's a new game. Are you sure? This is why they explain it That they're like it's a new game. I know I don't think I've realized that that meant that they would go 15 minutes 15 minutes Half-time and then that would end. I wonder if there would be a half-time. I mean if there's they they kept a half-time Three timeouts because they knew game they hit the challenge one day This will happen in some crazy game where it's two four-string quarterbacks in the rain or something. This is gonna happen one day Oh my god, that's funny though. They have to explain it Okay, the only other thing I want to mention for quarter the weekend. We mentioned Tony Ramos saying Josh on's moms I also want to mention his easel Shire the Texans linebacker Talking about since the Texans are gone. They asked him at his mindset for the week And he said my mindset doesn't even matter We have this thing called white boy Wednesdays in the weight room where they play rock music There's this one song. I don't even know the name, but I know the part where it goes like in the end It doesn't even matter and I love the idea that Lincoln Park is just white boy Wednesday weight That shouldle fire you up. Tell you know Some like some 41 Some 41. Where did you pull that from? That's a white boy Wednesday. It's the whitest boy that you can think of some Like balls on parade. They're like this is incredible Uh And in the end it didn't matter for the Texans because it's actually super mattered actually Well, I guess really the beginning matter with these big interceptions But the only other now they're numb because CJ Stroud is saying to himself look what I've done I don't actually know the lyrics or songs titles enough. You know, but I know what you're doing What I've done is the end of the transformers Remember that no not really really optimize prime is like standing on the cliff and he's like looking out And it's like Craig. I'm gonna be honest with you. I do not I don't know if I've ever watched that for you Fucking they're so terrible. Oh You just make it go fixing your car The first one is is good remember that part. Yeah Yeah And he's like a Autobots roll out and it's like what I've done Those are my ringtone Oh my god Oh dude that original Transformers good movie Sam Whitwicky isn't that shy LaBus? Yeah, shy LaBus Oh, yeah, Sam Whitwicky. Yeah, Sam Whitwicky That's his name in the movie. Yeah, it is DK Whitwicky. Yeah, sorry. His name's not Legolas Uh, I can't believe you haven't seen that film film don't call it a film I make your bad boys too John Wick you don't To call that a film it's insulting to other films to call a film you haven't even seen it's a movie Yeah, I've seen enough of it. You saw the first 10 minutes. Yeah, she's fixing the car I've seen enough Michael Bay movies to know that it's up is Armageddon not a movie not a film. Well that one's pretty good Okay, that one's a film. All right Well after I after I saw a Pearl Harbor. I was like nope. Yeah bad boys not a film. No bad rock bad boys too It's like throwing cars. He's like you think I don't see that. That's it. The Rock is the Rock is good. What about ambulance on Netflix? I don't know. I'm not sure what that is It's a Michael Bay movie is it new Maybe five years ago or something What was the plot as an ambulance driver? Just a Michael Bay thing I think or something. It's always said he did that So basically it's a lot of cars in Europe I think I was a you know the the movie uh Team America world police. There's a whole song about how Pearl Harbor sucked and I miss you and there's just like a bridge where he's like Why does Michael Bay get to keep on making movies Because Pearl Harbor sucked And I miss you decay. I think you're greatest song of all time your homework before you come out to LA for the Super Bowl as you have to watch trans God there's so many movies on my list crank that actually are good and worth watching There are worse ways to spend two hours and watch trans farmers You got a live post that sure I think the alternative is if D.K. It doesn't do this We just keep sending your son D.K. We just keep mailing him transformers as gifts until he watch it with him. He likes transporters actually Yeah, watch it with him Is that too inappropriate? It's probably a little scary for him at this point. I don't know Okay Watch that. God there you just you'd call me gonna film Is it cinema crazy? Keeping the format But Michael Blake Michael Bay is the only one who understands what you know are the Michael Bay defenders gonna come for me It'll be Michael Bay himself. It'll be Michael Bay himself. He's listening Michael Bay if you're listening emails at ringer fantasy football gmail.com I love nothing more than to give you a platform I believe he was attached like a year to ago to make the um skimmy toylet movie I rest my case Seems like he backed off Cooler heads prevailed Per harvester sucked. I can't wait to see if he doesn't miss you All right, wait we get this one more quote here. I want to get to you guys I think the best renounce your moment of the weekend um, okay Just I know it's divisional around weekend But we can't let this moment go without passing which is eric Collins and the best announcer in the entire universe um had a great moment with the charlotte hornets and cam if you don't mind playing Okay, cuz I don't think I've heard this one Has eight in the crosshairs Just a blow Great balls of fire he hits a new octave. I've never heard Eric. Yeah, that was like uh he got scared He got he wasn't ready for whatever happened he was frightened by lamellos crossover. Yeah, yeah, we're time Comes quiz eight in the crosshairs Wow, that was good Oh, whatever he's made whatever he's he's making it's not enough double it Oh That was more of a film All right, I don't know what you're doing against Michael Bay I'm taking a stand crave You like I feel like you like bad boys in the rock and Armageddon. No, I like the rock and Armageddon That's fine the rock is amazing. Yeah, rocks great Not the one I won't I will not miss merch the rock or Armageddon Michael Bay usher this into the modern action movie Okay Oh, Optimus Prime walked so Thor could run Okay, I don't have the movie knowledge to to debate you on this but I'm a little cynical that that's correct Well luckily you'll be watching it the next two All right, I'm gonna watch it. Yeah, how many are there like 52 There was like what was the There was another one that was transformers ask that had Rihanna in it You're thinking of Pacific rim. Yeah, it's like well. I just thought in terms of the action sequences and the crazy CGI Let me guys tell you about film, but you guys liked Pacific Rim too. We like that film masterpiece Well, let me tell you something Pacific Rim was phenomenal. I haven't seen Pacific Rim Oh, can points out battleship too. Oh, same Oh, we know battle ship is the one with Rihanna. Oh, yeah, yeah, no I don't know if she was in Pacific Rim, but yeah I can tell you everything about the battleship the movie based on the game we played as kids all you need to know about Pacific Rim Is that right? I don't actually know No, let's do that is true. I think they're probably inspired the bar movie the but the Pacific Rim All you need to know is that they're giant robots that have to fight giant aliens that come out of the ocean and Charlie Kelly Is the smartest person in the world Charlie day from it's always sunny is like the Flexing is acting chops then that's good. It's incredible. So decayed you want to know how many Transformers are yes, I need to know how much time I'm dedicated. You just have to watch the first one So you have transformers the first one and then there's the transformers two and oh nine And then there's transformers three in 2011 and then there's transformers age of extinction where they replace shy LaBuff with Mark Walberg and then there's transformers five And then there's a spin off Spin off bumblebee. I remember there's another one that came out in 2023 called transformers rise of the beast Did you watch all these now? I think I watched the first three and maybe four I think I saw the first wall where they all Michael Bay joints. No, he stopped directing them and they replaced Megan Fox. He was probably executive producer whatever Yeah, they replaced Megan Fox was like simple on chicken and Mark Walberg And I like turn back in my dad like all right What happened to me it feels like you're agreeing with me. She's deep down The first transformers is a class that I turned 20 and I was like all right Ha ha ha Tiki's like oh so 22 here in situated it's juvenile. I was the perfect age when the first transformers came out which was 13 correct Craig and I a lot of things happen when we were 13 but Megan what I'm saying I still like the car and then they released the dark night and those are pretty Seminole things for regeneration. Well, I'm sorry to all the to all the you don't see very sorry really loyal fans of that movie franchise Okay, we'll just do a reminder we do three episodes a week during the playoffs covered all the way through the Super Bowl after the Super Bowl two episodes a week Covering the offseason Danny Kelly our draft expert. We're gonna go through the dreadful draft free agency trades Offseason the whole Chabang and then we do an episode a week even after the draft So we do it all year stick with us all year and obviously preview fantasy football before the season. So stick with us We I think during the week we'll hit a lot of coach news and a lot of stuff the Falcons higher cabinets to Fanski the giants All right John Harbaugh saga. We can go ahead all that this week But the important thing we have to hit before we got to hear is Craig You promised us You would explain what the dish eggs whorel Beck would be oh Yeah, it's Benedict and I talked about this guy named eggs man ski Yeah, invented basketball and when the forward pass And football no, Amos Aloso stag. Oh right was like inventing football and invented the forward pass in the linebacker And then worked with the inventor basketball and they hadn't played in the first pass we can remember and it was 9 out 9 He's like I think Five on five is fine. So this guy just made basketball five on five Then on the 1940 championship 70 zero champion bears Eggs man ski was the last coach football player to play without a helmet right Which maybe he was on to something We actually had a little umbrella on the Yeah, and eggs man ski sounded like a dish like eggs Benedict and then I told you guys some of my friends called me egg as a joke Right, and then we were talking about eggs whorel Beck and how that sounds like a dish And then I decided to come up with what that dish would be and here it is. Oh hell yeah So it's so eggs whorel Beck would be a scramble But it's not with scrambled eggs you know when you order you go to a breakfast place you get a scramble and it's like sausage and scrambled eggs and whatever else It is a scramble, but it's not with scrambled eggs. It is with eggs It would be sunny side up eggs that come with crispy hash browns and maybe a little bacon And then what they do is they mix it all together so the yolk from the sunny side up egg mixes in with the hash browns in the bacon And they roll it up to you and they make it in front of you like a Caesar salad You know what I mean? What yeah, that's what it would be like they bring you to walk emolliet at a Mexican restaurant Yeah, they bring up it's like you have like a cart that they bring to your table Yeah, it's an old Italian man brings it up to your table on your plate You have your hash browns and you bake it and then they slap the two or three sunny side eggs on top And then he just starts going to town What about like doing it Like the Japanese Hibachi grill restaurants or whatever where they all are not any Hana? Yeah, yeah, yeah, where they all cook it and you sit around the grill You know, I just went to a Benihana last week For the first time in 15 years Does it still hold up? From when you were a Lot of butter years old. Okay. Yeah, the problem with the head it's a heavy night The problem with watching people cook your food at a restaurant when your older is like half the joy of going to restaurant It's not knowing what it is in the food. He is salinging knobs of butter on that grill Like they are that's good. That makes it taste good Well, it does and then an hour later you feel like you it's going through you Yeah, you feel like you could compete against any read in the Oklahoma drill Okay, so it is a it's a scramble with sunny side up eggs I think this is craggier man of course and there are no and I I love this dish I do this all the time. I don't do scrambled eggs I do like sunny side up or over easy eggs in like rice. I love having like leftover. Yeah Like a ginger rice Wait, are there no English muffins involved in this? Mussels fucking suck. Oh, I like English. Oh, that's that's a weird take That was very what you talk your English muffins are delicious. I like like there's like the basic English muffins He might the store. I think even those are solid But if you have a fresh English muffin, it's really good. I got I love English muffins. I don't I would eat one every day if I could You could add hot sauce on the eggs. Hold on back. That's fine. I'm into that. That's a cragg. This is a great Can I take us what I think I might do for breakfast tomorrow We expect to you gotta keep reading breakfast when we do emails well, I know So you're slack when you emails emails breakfast put the breakfast in your emails We won't read your email unless you tell us what you have for breakfast. There you go We'll have to answer the policy emails to put your breakfast in the breakfast in the email. We won't read it Give me breakfast. I give you a press Jackie made some duck breasts and we have an extra and I think I might make a Duc fried right now. Well, it's from Christmas and going quite well That's Randy caviar on the side. Yeah, no, it's well Christmas It was leftover and then we like froze and we never cooked you could have just said duck Well, I'm gonna fucking is just so It's left. Oh, it's good. It's good. It's good It's by duck by half duck and I'm gonna go fancy. I'm gonna have duck for breakfast like a fucking king Duck breast in like with some rice and some eggs or some shit. Hi, Fitz is gonna have to gout in no time my no time fly out flat Gout is a more pop more more common thing than you guys would think I have Multiple friends with gout gout. It happens name them. No, I'm not naming them. They know who I am I named someone who I know that had gout on the show and then I really was made a cut it because I guess I shouldn't have announced their have that met Hypnosis right right but I person I know who I care about who's watching this Who's gonna name rhyme with yeah? Got gout while we were together this summer and will go out or the gout. That's what I want to know I prefer the gout the gout sounds funnier. Yeah, and that's what we say in LA the gout the gout. Yeah, right And this person is like 32 And uh, I have the gout so I had to get on the 405 So we do yeah, yeah The best part though is this person's fantasy football team name is Arby's we have to meet so then I just photoshopped it and I just made it Arby's we have the gout You know, it's like the least healthy breakfast of all time that I absolutely adore is it chicken fried steak Do yeah, what what does that mean? What's what do you chicken fry something? It's like a chicken cutlet you you you you You based it in flour eggs and bread crumbs or a batter of sorts and you fry it but it is Chicken fried is like a whole time. It's unreal. It's the best thing you can save it a chicken fried steak You imagine just you're making chicken cutlets and then there's just a t-bone steak. Yeah, it's really really good Like you can't the rest of the day is it's shot you just got to go home and like binge transformers movies but It's a great meal. I chicken fried steak is a once every like five or six years for me Like if you think a hot dog is bad you have you have not met a chicken fried steak You can have two hot dogs eating one of them things is like smoking a pack of cigarettes probably worse. Yeah I mean that the carcinogens are off the charts email us at rearfancy football gmail.com Uh put your breakfasts in the email tell us what you have for breakfast that day shout out to that guy who had um The energy drink in the vape and the big vinegar cheese and pizza um Thank you dk thank you Craig thank you cam thank you Austin thank you kai thank you carless thank you ever for listening Thank you uh ten sarandas because you listen to fart a shard maybe and didn't take us off So if we if we have another episode after this thank you Ted If you're watching this then you know yeah, thank you lord lord thank you link did Sorry That was Wow, I felt like you thinking about that for like five minutes Lincoln Park Lincoln Park Park oh Sorry about that I don't I don't know who to apologize link dinner Lincoln Park probably we apologize to Michael Bay Yeah, you just like now like to kiss like we're gonna need LinkedIn after doing that I can't wait till you get to the final frame and optimist guys epilogue Jesus Christ Were you guys big you Lincoln uh Lincoln park people back in the day? Not really Lincoln Park I feel like when my iPod I got to use a big deal to get it. I like them But you know I feel like also Craig I don't know I feel like this is gonna be our old people story that when we say it's like oh we're old is like having iPods It's like a little trigger and iPod yeah, and iPod And dude yeah Lincoln Park like because you know it would skip some songs the songs that were like Corrupted on lime wire it would like skip And I had actually like we'd actually bought with the iTunes gift cards the Lincoln Park song So I feel like it would no matter what like I would always have the Lincoln Park music along with like Eminem and randomly vertigo by YouTube which is why I didn't know to count in Spanish when I was young But I remember really liking the the Jay Z Lincoln Park Yeah, yeah, those were no man on court that was an on court sick that was really the age to the isa like like the the iso The Jay Z Lincoln Park stuff was where those real collaborations or where they just mashups that so They were official it was an official Jay Z Lincoln Park like mashup they were incredible Does that count as white boy Wednesday? Yeah, I would say it probably but it was like Lincoln Park doing the original Well decay you'll have to tell me what you think about what I've done The Lincoln Park song that plays at the end of transform Did okay Oh, dude, honestly, you know my favorite Lincoln Park song is ever is bleeding out. I know I when I was a kid I knew every word to bleed about I bet you still literally I probably still do that stuff doesn't They don't leave you know the crazy many things you forget and then I could probably if I hear the beginning I could probably It is weird to have like like innate memory about things that you've completely forgotten about or is not front of time like brain pathways And whatnot should I pull up the instrumental and see if I could do it or is that gonna The show or maybe we'll just make you do it in LA Yeah, just point like going. I'll do yeah, no, that's good Craig. That's good. Let's make him do karaoke That's that's not a good karaoke song What is your karaoke song well karaoke the people get karaoke songs wrong karaoke songs are not for you They're for the crowd right so if you get up and you do something that like you like He can't just like exhaling When I've it starts to like tell him why karaoke's all wrong I actually agreed with him though, so I'll let it slide But when you said people get it wrong. I was like if I know it was like I love everybody's wrong about this very popular thing No, I love karaoke, but if I got up and it's like I love bleed it out by Lincoln Park. I'll do it at karaoke I think it's people get stabbed yeah, I would agree that it's better when people know the song that you're singing yeah Because it's fun to sing along. It's no different than being an actual artist people want you to play a fucking hits My my go-tos are Ain't no amount high enough because it's everyone knows the words and it's sure it's like it's like a minute 50 There's not like a minute interlude instrumental interlude in the middle there. Yeah, like drops a Jupiter's great But man that is a less like six minutes and then the other one I love is photograph by nickelback. This is always is funny That's good nickelback look at this photograph like ironically a huge crab pleaser It is you don't stoke and you don't have to sing to do it. Yeah Yeah Nickelback would they were they got screw over I don't I don't even necessarily like their music, but the fact that everyone thinks their the worst band is is total bullshit What's the boulder Pete Weber is like like your hate me you washed yeah They're probably still touring at this point they were touring last year. What's he like springstay a couple years ago and then the riches Show is yeah All right craigs just like what are we doing get the fuck out here? I'm dumb Craigs defending Michael Bay and I'm defending nickelback all right, well, we can end this on core I'm not even like defending Michael Bay, but I'm like transformers is a perfectly good move Goodbye, everyone You