Super Bowl Preview: Darnold's Destiny, Underdog Patriots, and Motorcycle Jousting

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I've kind of been in a dungeon for the last three hours, and I emerged seeing the Giants are associated with the Epstein list. Can somebody tell me what's going on? You know what? I would also like someone tell me what's going on. Give me a rundown here. Tish, I see the name Tish is involved. Is that the guy from the NYU Tish School of Arts guy? Yes, that's the family. So the Giants are owned by two families. The one you hear about mostly is John Merrow, the Merrow family, and then the Tish family, on the other half, they actually sold a piece of it to the Koch brothers, one of their widows. So those are the three others, but the Tish is and Merrow is on the team, and I'll give you the two long don't read. A lot of tech. A lot of recommendations. Too long don't read. Don't don't read. I'm reading from the New York Times. This is from the New York Times, baby. The story ends with a email that Jeffrey Epstein wrote to Steve Tish that says, quote, I am happy to have you as a new, but dot, dot, dot shared interest friend. Holy moly. You know, so that, you know, that happened. You know, I'm feeling pretty good about Mike McCarty to the Steelers. I feel like we're a solid organization. Right. So I have to just pass the Giants. I think, yeah, you know, we're possibly strange day. All right. You know what? Otherwise. So yeah, TK, you're feeling better about the sea hawks. I don't want to hear anyone complain anymore about their teams. I'm feeling pretty good about the sea hawks. Yeah. Sea hawks are in Super Bowl 60. That's pretty cool. Still really hasn't sunk in for me quite yet. That the sea has are in the Super Bowl. Do you wish you were going to the game? Is any part of you want to go to the game or no? Not really. I think I would be too nervous. I like this is like how I am as a fan. I like watching from afar. I don't really usually it's actually too stressful for me to be around people during these games. I'm kind of a miserable jerk when talking off. Watching your favorite teams play sports when it matters sucks. It's the worst experience. It's like fun and theory. But watch it. I do. I've never watched an important Giants game with other people that were rooting for the Giants. And I would continue that by saying attending a game, an important game involving your favorite team is even worse. There are people like STS you made the national championship. And my buddy was like do you want to go? And I was like hell no. Hell no. The upside of being there for them winning is not worth the misery of being there with them losing. And they lost by like 20 to you. I'm like that would have fucking sucked my flight home. What is sucked my hotel that night would have sucked not worth it. Why rather watch it home. It is so nerve-racking watching your team. You think about the X-TCs like what it's over. But like yeah it's it's it's it's it's it's so it's pre pre-loss clarity here something. Pre-loss clarity yeah. All right let's get into every Super Bowl 60. But I want to start with the relevant piece of news which there's a lot of news around the NFL too much if you ask me. But I want to start with the Vikings fire the general manager, Quessia Delfamenza, which was pretty shocking timing because again the season ended three weeks ago. And we don't have to get into Quessia's whole tenure as the Vikings GM. The too long don't read again is the the kind of sucked the Vikings have missed a ton of picks. I frankly just not many picks the Vikings GM has made that are still on the team. Not many guys not as many as they should be still in the NFL. But let's be honest the Vikings fire their GM because Sam Darnold's in the Super Bowl. Right. And the fix matter. Well the Vikings owner came out was like this wasn't about one decision. Well the timing was certainly about one thing that happened which was that Sam Darnold won 14 games for the Vikings left in free agency for nothing. One another 14 games with the COX made the Super Bowl again the list of quarterbacks who won 14 games back to back years for two different teams is just or two different teams ever is just like paint manning Tom Brady and Sam Darnold. So I don't want to spend too much time in the Vikings we'll get to all these other teams in the off seasons we have all season for that. I think it's worth remembering that well it's easy to dance on the grave of like Hojul and Sam Darnold go when I saw this headline in DK I thought it was worth remembering how unlikely this whole Super Bowl is between Seattle and New England. And I think Sam Darnold is merely the unlikely face of a very unlikely Super Bowl matchup. Yeah I mean this and I saw this from Mike Sando actually athletic this is the first this is the Super Bowl where two teams under the season 60 to one or worse odds this is the first time that's happened since I think 80 90 said I have the Celix to win the Super Bowl at 70 to one. I can't believe that first one that's awesome. Good for you. I'm not good at betting so that that's not a brag that's a that's probably a bad bad. Right but yeah this is the longest odds for for two Super Bowl teams that we've ever seen so this is a highly highly unlikely matchup between two teams I think most people were kind of thinking would be I think if you go back to the beginning of season the Celix had just traded away the starting quarterback they had just traded away their superstar receiver and DK Metcalf I think there was a open-mindedness that Sam Darnold could kind of continue to do what he did with Minnesota but the way that he finished last season was really critical here I mean he completely fell apart in the playoffs and so I think there was open-mindedness but for I mean for speaking for me I was like pretty critical of the move I thought it was a really risky move to kind of do that get rid of your starting quarterback and bring in a different guy who'd kind of just melt it down I thought against the Rams who were your biggest rival in the division along the night and you know credit to the Seahawks that these that move in particular looks like one of the smartest moves we saw this whole year I mean truly with the way that things went for Gido Smith in Las Vegas compared to what how it went with Darnold I mean it's one of the best moves of all time maybe like truly I mean the Raiders have the first pick in the draft and the CXI have the last it's crazy with the Super Bowl it generally it truly is on the short list of the best decisions the teams have ever made in any sport they can any team could have signed Sam Darnold I cannot stress that enough it's the other not much money the other wrinkle to this whole thing which is kind of ironic and funny is I I at the time was like you know they're bringing in Clint Kubiak who had a solid first half of the season with New Orleans and then everything fell apart we don't really know that much about him so to me on on the whole it was basically you're bringing in this pretty unproven offensive coordinator with a quarterback who has a history of completely melting down I don't know how this is going to go I'm scared that was kind of like my sort of position at the time now Sam Darnold coming off one of the greatest performances we've ever seen in an SC championship game to send the C-hawks to the Super Bowl Clint Kubiak is going to be coaching the Raiders probably next year who are the first overall pick in large part because Gino Smith completely melted down like the parallels in the sort of the sliding doors are pretty crazy about this whole situation we don't know yet where Kubiak is going to be but I can't stress enough and Darnold he makes 33 million year which I know that sounds like a tremendous amount but considering how important quarterback is if you take out the quarterbacks from rookie contracts because those contracts are pre-negotiated on if you just look at starting quarter there's only 20 quarterbacks in the NFL that like are on veteran contracts Darnold even as a free agent has is the 18th highest paid quarterback of the 20 the only quarterbacks actually paid less or Baker Mayfield who basically makes the same amount of money and then Justin Fields the other 17 quarterbacks are paid more than Sam Darnold and so anybody really could have had him if they wanted him but including the Vikings including the Vikings can't stress enough including the Vikings especially the Vikings I mean it's it's amazing but if you just well it's also one of those things or we hype it you've talked about nature for snurcher and the Sam Darnold is a great example of that Sam Darnold landing in Seattle I would say is is part a large part of the reason why Sam Darnold is good if Sam Darnold left Minnesota and went to back to the jets or went to the Raiders or something like that he might have been terrible and he could have his career could have fallen off a cliff for a second time you know these the ones see it in Super Bowl if he signs with the jets I'm just saying it's like it's so it's funny that we're like oh Sam Darnold one of the best contracts now a quarterback that is true but that is also true because he's on the Seahawks not just because he's Sam Darnold it's a reminder that like the best thing you could do is have Patrick Mahomes and just have the best and most clutches get like the Michael Jordan of your sport or have Tom Brady or something but the reality is it also works to just build the best roster and be at the cutting edge of scheme and then have a quarterback who's good enough and that's what the Seahawks have done with Mike McDonald where they have this defense that's incredible all pretty freaking healthy and then they have an offensive quarter that's maximizing talent everywhere and honestly everyone's pretty freaking healthy on the Seahawks and I mean they've just hit a lot of picks I mean honestly the Vikings GM got fired because they haven't hit any picks the Seahawks have hit like they've hit like almost all their picks over the last few years so it's amazing every super bowl team has that in common as much of we talked about the chiefs almost three-peating they hit every defensive pick they made for four drafts in a row for Kansas City that's how they made the super kept making the super bowls and like that is every super bowl team it's like have the best quarterback or hit all of your picks it's not that different from the Seahawks 10 years ago it's like no the Legion of Boone with Russell Yomrosa Wilson and there are similarities there it may be one ask you DK which Seahawks super bowl winning team is better this year's super bowl or this year's team or the team that beat the Broncos I mean I probably would take the team that beat the Broncos DVOA would tell you it's the opposite though DVOA tells you this is one of the greatest teams of all time actually um according to the DVOA history this is the fifth they're tied for the fifth best team of all time in DVOA uh including playoffs so there's the 91 redskins the 85 bears the 2007 Patriots 1989 49ers and then they're tied with the 96 Packers for fifth on that list so I gotta be honest it doesn't feel that way I know I totally agree I love I agree with that too they're gonna win that's not the case I think what it does tell you is a couple of things number one I think if you look at that's for nerds watch if you look well first of all they're very balanced I think that's that's one thing that is captured here is on special teams a de offense and defense they're very strong in all three phases I think that's really important um but the other thing here is if you look at the Seahawks schedule and I don't have a pull up in front of me right now but they had a murderous row of playoff teams and they won almost all those games they they had an incredibly difficult schedule the season and they just mowed down almost everybody that they played and even when they lost it was at the last minute kind of one you know the way the ball bounced or whatever there's a few really weird games in season and so I think that tells you and again DVOA is just giving you context for how good a team is relative to the to the teams that they played you know what I mean and so um I think I agree with you it doesn't feel like they're the fifth best team of all time it just doesn't feel that way but like I would have said the Eagles last year were the fifth best team of all time right that felt right to me the 2013 Seahawks felt like a team of destiny the Seahawks this year just feel really really good but that being said I mean that I you know let's the stats so I it's like anything else though it's how it ends it's like everyone's a medic and it surrounds because it ended poorly everyone those Harry Potter because it ended great and it's the the Seahawks are not considered a great team if they don't destroy the Broncos of the Super Bowl the Eagles are not considered an all-time great team if they don't obliterate and embarrass and pants against the city chiefs in the Super Bowl like that is the essential part and I do think that's why DVOA is factoring it is because they destroyed the nighters in the divisional round so I want to get into I want to I kind of thought it would be interesting to look at the lens of these games of just how if Seattle won what happened and if the Patriots won what happened and what do we think might happen but first I wanted to just reiterate how unlikely it is that these teams got here and to deacate point about like the 60 to one I got six and 70 to one to win the Super Bowl the Patriots are 80 to one and I guess there's so much talk about the Patriots being frauds and they're scheduled and everything which I do want to go through and read which is but I just want to remind people it's not just the schedule thing and people picked the Patriots to make the playoffs because they had the easiest schedule we knew that in January when their opponents came out we knew that in May when the schedule came out with everything just because of the lineup but it's worth remembering Drake man and I mean just to look at the Patriots starters Drake may was a second your quarterback would have one win as a starter the quarterback had won one game right their left tackle was a rookie the left guards are rookie the question with New England entering the offseason last year was do they have the worst offensive line in the entire NFL their number one receivers to fond digs who'd been on three teams in three years is 32 years old coming off a tornado ACLs on a snap count Mac Collins was thrown off thrown overboard by the Buffalo Bills receiver core Mac Collins was not brought back to the bills receiver core K. Sean booty is a sixth round player with a gambling addiction in college that he's spoken about you have like that like this team is you go through every single position remantor Stevenson led all running backs and fumbles in 2024 and then fumbled five three times in the first five weeks of 2025 like every part of the team was a weakness and it is weird that they're here and so I just it's all the other frauds it's like no this team is a lot unfortunately in common with the 2001 Patriots where it's kind of weird that they're here and I don't want to be like Patriots fans should be grateful but yeah no one expected this to happen and that's okay and we're calling you frauds because it's like what else are we going to say yeah you're the greatest team ever and here you are again it's the only thing we can freaking say to cope that you're back. There's a perfect example of why the NFL is the most unpredictable sport I think yeah if you look at the sea I've said this a couple times on the show the Seahawks had the same over under total according to Vegas as the Cardinals who won how many games they win this year three like nobody knows anything. So fucking idiots that the ringer picked the Cardinals to make the playoffs and said the Seahawks. Can we find those people? I'm not going to name names but I remember seeing that factoid and I was saying that. I don't know some moron I think. What if you add the Seahawks wins of this year to the Cardinals wins of this year 14 and 3 that that is about eight and a half each that does work out so Vegas was kind of on. Right. You know what I mean? True. You can't really be upset about that. No it's true. Well I'm a little upset I want to do she'll show and set the Cardinals to make the Super Bowl. I think I said the Raiders and they can play us it's all fine. And I pick Pete Carroll to be the coach of the year so. The Patriots lost to the team that has the first pick in the draft in week one. That's so crazy. I stopped the count after week one man. Pete Carroll's coach of the year. The Patriots lost to the Raiders they beat the Dolphins by six and then they lost to the Steelers they were one and two and then have gone 16 and one since against and we should go through this list. Not exactly a gauntlet. Oh please. Craig will you do the viral post that went to please read the Patriots I have L70 right now. You see that? No I think I should have it. This is if you haven't seen this yet I'm going to read the Patriots schedule in terms of what happened to their coach or what division they ran you'll get the gist of what I'm doing. Patriots strength the schedule week one a coach that was fired this year week two they played a team whose coach was fired week three a team whose coach was fired week four played the NFC South team week five they played a coach who was fired week six another NFC South team week seven eight nine all teams who fired their coach week 10 NFC South week 11 the jets week 12 the Bengals is out Joe burrow or Jamar chase week 13 15 and 16 coaches that were fired week 17 the jets and week 18 team that fired their coach. I mean and then you can keep I mean and then they go into the playoffs and they play Justin Herbert with no offensive line C.J. The semifistering left tackle for the true. C.J. Stroud disaster and then Jarek's did him. So it's it's it is an all time run. Every team gets lucky but this is crazy from from Doug Claeson the 2025 Patriots 11 games versus teams who did not return their head coach following season tied for most of any team in the NFL history which seems obvious the 1925 Frankfurt yellow jacket also had 11 not including teams that folded the fight the following year they just stopped being a team. Well the jets went told next year so that would hold on let me fold the fret 19 20 were you joking about that? No, no, this is from Doug Claeson the 1925 Frankfurt for the L.A. Jack Frankfurt. Oh God, they had a wide back named Tex Hammer. Oh my god. We see as related to Dick playing wide back. One M Tex Hammer. Bull Beaman. That Tex Hammer. Bull Beaman. Guy Chamberlain. They got someone named two bits homin. We've talked about the guy. Two bits. Wait, I wanted them to bow. What do you mean? Bull? Bull's name's bull. Not bull like bull like a bull. Bull. Bull. Yeah, yeah. Bull and then two bits his name his name's two bit. We've talked about him before I've it's I know I would remember two bits. He was born in 1898. Well, he was so bad he got a coach fired. He was 545 pounds. That's like Benson Boone. Yeah, two bits homin. Flippy boy. That's a little flippy boy. Flippy boy. Five. One bigger than that. Five five is like separate of carpenters like five five. I guess she's five. Oh, that's incredible. I okay, so I don't remember. Oh, yeah, so can we just not pretend that the pay every team gets lucky and every every team that's everyone the championship in any sport has got lucky along the way and at backup quarterbacks hit it. It's all we can also admit that this Patriots thing is like a legendary easy run. It's kind of like fantasy football every year. There are sites you can plug your like you can plug like an app extension to put your lead data and there's some people want to I know someone has showed me that they won their league. And they're like I'm the ultimate fraud because if they had played anyone else's schedule they like wouldn't have made the playoffs. Eleven of the schedules like just the order that they had played the other opponents they would not have made it. But they're scheduled they won the championship and that's a little bit this having said that. I also stand by the fact that I think Mike Frabel is the best week to week game planning coach in the NFL. Well, because like all these things keep it true. And what you outlined is like it's not like their talent is Super Bowl Warby. So you have to give Frabel credit for him elevating the floor of this team even though they've played a lot of bad teams. The fact that Frabel has not allowed them to slip up pretty much once this entire season is extremely impressive. That's the thing and that all these things can be true. The Patriots talent wise are not a Super Bowl team. They're barely a playoff team they need. But Frabel dude, we don't again the Patriots lost 14 games last year. Did they not like and they're the Super Bowl. That's crazy. But Frabel brought in some of the free agents they brought in are create Milton Williams. The defense that we're going to talk about. I think he's really good at the entire game. Like if the Patriots win, they need him to be Chris Jones in that first Chiefs 9 or Super Bowl. They need him to be like Kirkland brand air and Donald. And I think Milton Williams and that he's the key to the game. I think but they brought in like digs because they wanted Chris Godwin and he went back to Tampa Bay to rehab. So they got digs as their second choice. They brought in Roberts. All these guys who played under Vrable just Harold Lanjou. He was a Titans cast off and then like Roberts playing and like these weren't highly valued guys. They were high character guys that Vrable had specific visions for about how they would play. But um, yeah, I'm like, yeah, the Patriots shouldn't be here. But they are here because Mike Vrable is fucking incredible. And he's like the new Vrable is the new Mike billpark salesman. I really feel that way. I want to I got to say though. After kind of, you know, talking about how great the CXR according DVLA. It is notable that the Patriots are peaking at an exact right time. This is the in terms of weighted DVLA which takes into account more recent games. The Patriots are the number two team in DVLA. The CXR number one Patriots are number two. This is this team is playing really well and DVLA by the way takes into account strength of schedule. So this is a team that's playing really, really well at the exact right time. This is in terms of the difference between their DVLA at the beginning of the season versus the difference at the end of the season. This is according to Aaron Schatz. The the widest gap in terms of performance early season to late season of any team since 1978. So they are they have whatever it maybe this is just the the Vrable thing. They've completely bought into what he's what he's coaching. The defense has gotten so much better from the beginning of the season to the end of the season. We've seen what they've done over the last couple of games. And yeah, I mean, this team is playing really, really well at the exact right time. So I feel like we can talk about the schedule and everything, but this is still a team that's playing extremely well right now. Despite, you know, I guess they're what seems like a lack of the talent disparities pretty pretty dramatic. It feels like between the two teams, but they are the way that they're playing right now. Anything could happen. This might go without saying, but I don't know if we've actually said this on the podcast. Have we said that if the Patriots witness game they'll have seven Super Bowls, which will be the most of any franchise in NFL. Have we said that yet? No. Well, right now the person, the team with the most Super Bowls in NFL history is Tom Brady, who is more than any individual team, which I don't think gets talked about enough. That's to me. That's Brady's case over Michael Jordan. Tom Brady currently is more Super wins than any individual team. Yeah, Brady is seven, but the Steelers and Patriots are tied with six. Yeah. So I kind of feel like we haven't just discussed that at the Patriots witness. They'll have the most in NFL. And all of them will be in the last 25 seasons. They'll have seven of the last 25. I mean, this Patriots run started, I think eight or nine months before Drake Bay was born. For Drake Bay had been conceived and this entire thing is in his fucking life, which is crazy. Like they just have basically like a Super Bowl every three or four seasons for the entire 21st century. Yeah, they were the best team ever as he was growing up. And then the second he like went to college, they sucked and he got drafted by them and never could. What a lovely little situation he fell into there. No, it's it's pretty. This is why Patriots fans should understand that we yeah, we're not all happy for you. Sorry. No, we're not. And also on the other side of things, the same Donald story is just so good. Like, yeah, this is a remarkable story. This is like one of the all-time career comebacks. Like I he's going to go down in history. Like same Darnell will become a verb. People are going to talk about like the Darnell where the guy comes in this talent that everybody thought was good, the bus to who comes back from the dead. So I feel like everybody. It's going to be hard, I think, for the average NFL fan to not root for Seattle. I would say overwhelmingly, people are going to want Seattle to win the Super Bowl. And the because of Darnell and also the one of the Patriots. Yeah, the sinkoast game. Yeah, it's which. Which I had forgotten was against the Patriots. That was a 2019 Monday Night Football game. Jets, Pats, the Jets lost 33 to zero in that game on Monday Night Football. It was Darnell's 16th start in the NFL. Do you guys know his stat line from that day? I don't even want to put this out into the world. I do because I wrote a blog about it for the ringer that I reread. And it's the game was as bad as it's like worthy of having a game. It's actually as bad as it gets. I mean, the fact also they did him so dirty catching him on Mike saying that, airing it is just I know it was like from a like from the Skycam or whatever. Hey, wait, Craig read the stat line. It's actually worse than I remembered. He was 11 for 32 86 yards. Four interceptions. A lost fumble and an intentional safety. So intentional safety. Oh, they had to not about prevent a defensive touch. So he kicked Darnell's passorating the game. He had a 3.7 out of 158, which is the lowest ever versus a Bill Bela chick defense, which goes back basically 50 years. And then in a nutshell, Darnell had four interceptions, four, three in outs, and then took a safety. And then that was the game. And then he was talking to himself essentially like he was like, man, I'm seeing ghosts out there. So pretty much he was kind of talking to a coach, but he was like, I've seen ghosts out there. They're going to keep coming. And it was your Halloween and it was it was brutal, man. But I again, he got mono. Well, the Patriots, that's an all-timer. That we're going to, I mean, how many people are going to, how many memes are you going to be? I've seen probably 15 of those memes just today. You could be a super bowl champion. It's just like with them. God, I think it's also, it's a great story too, because Darnell seems very just laid back. You know, he's kind of been through the ringer in terms of his career, going to all the different places that he's gone. Being known as this, you know, mega-bidraft bus that kind of turned his career around slowly, but surely. But he just seems super chill. Every time you see an interview with him, he's just, you know, I just love my teammates just trying to win for my teammates. Well, he's like, I have a bird app. Every time I hear a bird, I can turn on my app and figure out what kind of bird it was. Like, he just seems like the most genuine sort of low-key guy. That's the only app he should be using. I hope he's not on social media at all. He's better than the other bird app. Right. He's just him and Ben Solak on here talking about red-rested not hatches, or whatever. It's just crazy, man. I mean, third pick in the draft. The fact that he's the first quarterback from the 2018 draft to make the Super Bowl, and that draft had Josh Allen Baker me a field of the Mar is insane. Yeah, awesome. First USC quarterback to make the Super Bowl is crazy. The fact that in Simd Arnold's sixth NFL season, he threw two touchdowns. Not because he was hurt, not because they didn't, but because he sucked, was a bust and was a backup. And he sixth season, he threw two touchdowns. The next season, he throws 35 and wins 14 games. The season after that, 25 wins 14 games and is in the Super Bowl. I mean, I just like, you'll never see this. This will have once every 50 years. We'll have to rename the, it's so over. We're so backward after Simd Arnold, if he wins the Super Bowl. The other only other person, Deontay Lee pointed out, the only other comp for this is probably Brad Johnson, who was like in the European Football League, before he won the Super Bowl at the box, that box team, I think we don't talk about enough. All-time NFL story that never gets mentioned is John Gruden being traded from the Raiders to the Buckeneers and then they played in the Super Bowl, which is just an all-time thing. I can't imagine. I mean, if that happened now, we would be like, oh, I don't know. And then they destroyed the Raiders and the Super Bowl. The other similar, but I think it's obviously still has to play out. Darlal has to kind of prove over the next few years that this is a legit. But Steve Young did not turn into a full-time start. Well, first off, he flamed out in Tampa Bay. Well, he didn't even go to the NFL. He went to the USFL out of college. They moved him to safety when he was at BYU, because they didn't want to teach a lefty quarterback, the offense. He went to the USFL, played for the LA Express for two years, and then I was picked in the supplemental draft on the box and went three and 16. Yep. Bill Walls traded for him. He was a backup behind Joe Montana. Yeah, he was a backup for like five years. There's a great story about Bill Walls trying to trade for Steve Young, where he basically goes to the team. And it's like, you know, it's like the Brady thing. It's like, when do you move on from Joe Montana? And then he wants to do it on, and we get the backup. And which Joe Montana is like not even over now. And he goes to the staff, he's a should be trade for Steve Young. And everyone says, no. Bill Walls is like, oh, what do you guys know? Fuck it. And he just does it anyway. He traded the 50th and the 106th pick for Steve Young, I believe. Because he's, it's, that's the accurate. So once every 20 years, you see, Steve Young didn't start. He didn't really start for the 49ers until he was 30 years old. And obviously, I'm not comparing Donald to Steve Young. Steve Young is a Hall of Famer. So that's obviously a very different thing. But the parallels are like both of them have their breakout seasons in their seventh season, which is really, really late to mature. Yeah. Late, late, that's like me. I was a late bloomer. You know, I was five years old freshman year. I was the Donald. You were two bits home in size. It was a five. These two bits of world. Dude, I would have killed two bits. Five more than 45. My freshman year. I remember one. Two bits of world back. Five, one, one, ten. You were sap cars. I was Sabrina Carpter. You were sap cars. I ain't nice. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my god. Okay. So the Donald thing, yeah, it's, I don't know how you would get startled. But that's the thing is like, I don't know. Do you guys want to start with the pages to see auction terms? So like, let's just pretend how they, if they won the game, and then we're like, what happened? We should start with Seattle. Yeah. What are we doing? This is a Seattle podcast, right? Also, I like that when we do ringer 107. There's no conversation when we pick the game next week that we're taking the COX and we're not putting ourselves in the position to root against Danny Kelly's team. No, we're in first, by the way. Yeah, we are. Yeah, we're going to, we're going to win. Don't worry. We're going to put us a little thought and energy into that as possible. We're going to work on a way. I already have one pick. Do we have to do props? Or is it just a spread? I think the spread and three props. We'll talk about that later. Better your story. To have to make a lot of quick decisions. So check back each day for a new daily boost because Fandals giving everyone something extra to cheer for during football's final week. Play your game with Fandals. Official Sports Book Partner of Super Bowl 60. Must be 21 plus and present in select states. Or 18 plus in present in DC. Kentucky or Wyoming opt in required bonus issued as non withdrawal of a profit boost tokens. Restrictions apply, including any token expiration and max wage or amount. Restrictions apply, see terms at sportsbook.fandals.com. Gambling problem. Call 1-800-Gamber or visit rg-help.com. Call 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org slash chat in Connecticut. So DK, what about the CX fan here? You're the expert. You're the wise man. CX win, what happened? They were just the far superior team in every aspect. To me, this is the CX. I think why everyone is so worried about it right now is because on paper, they're just a lot better. You know what I mean? They have more talent. They're more balanced. Their defense is absolutely freaking demolished. Every team that doesn't have Matt Stafford at quarterback this season. And so I think you look at this matchup on paper. This is why everybody has picked the CX so far. And it's actually starting to make me very nervous. The Patriots are in that zone. I know Bill's going to be all over this. There's nobody believed in us team. The Patriots are. So, you know, but on paper, the CX are the better team. I think the defensive, what they can do in theory to the Patriots offense is going to make this like the CX are not going to have to score a ton of points to win this game. That's kind of how I see it. The CX defense is playing really, really well this season. The best defense in the NFL. They're going to make it really, really hard on the Patriots. They have a really good special teams unit. And this is kind of what we're talking about with the Rams the difference on special teams could make a big impact. But I just look at the CX defense. If Sam Darnold can play relatively mistake free football, I think the CX will be fine. I agree. I mean, it's funny because it sounds really basic. But I just think whichever quarterback Pan X less and doesn't turn the ball over will win. And that table win because I think if you just look at both sides of the ball, the special teams on both sides are actually really good. The kickers are both really good. Both teams are really good at punting. I mean, you know, I'm honest. You could argue the best two point returners in the whole late or in this game. Rashid Shahid and Marcus Jones. But if you look at it, the weakest part of the entire Patriots is the offensive line. And the worst matchup for the New England is the CX front seven. And the tackles will cable has just been destroyed in these playoffs. And you know, the, you know, the left tackle left guard for the Patriots are rookies. And frankly, the interior, I mean, the CX biggest strengths are Byron Murphy, Leonard Williams and the interior versus like the center's care Bradberry. And Mike like like the. The tear Bradberry give me a break. Yeah, that guy. Well, but guess well, just saying like when he was with the Vikings, Vikings, fans, interior offensive line, they were happy to see him go. Look, I don't like what I've seen at a Bradberry on the tape this year. I'll just go. Yeah, he's like your 18th or 19th highest ranked center, right? Yeah, he's top 22, 23, I'd say. I don't have to revisit. It's been a couple weeks, but yeah, a year. But I just, I don't know. It's like every time you watch a game that doesn't go. He thinks doesn't know. It's just like, oh, there's defense. Attackles way better than that guard. And that's like this game. But Milton Williams too. The best player in the page and the CX are in the field. Milton Williams. Grace Able has played great. It's the guard for CX. He's good for rookie, but I'm like the Patriots. Milton Williams just feels like he's a lot better and stronger. So I don't know. I just feel like in both sides. But that's the thing is the interior pressure was the issue for Darnell. All these games, we melt down. If he doesn't do anything stupid, I feel like Seattle will win. That is a big qualifier though. It's a big scary qualifier. Well, it is interesting because if you want to speak from a narrative perspective for this game, the Patriots going in, if you're Mike Rabel, this is easy. Everyone's discrediting us. Everyone says we have the schedule of all time. Nobody thinks we deserve to be here. Everyone thinks we're a year or two years too early. We don't have the roster. We didn't play anybody to play off. It's so easy. This is gravy. This is like, hey, if we lose, we were supposed to lose big deal. But if we win, this validates everything. And on the other side, the Siocs are a little bit more like you're supposed to win. Darnell, you're still not out of the woods yet in theory. He just played probably the game of his career against the Rams. And yet, if he has a bad game against New England and they lose, that kind of gets lost to history a little bit. So in terms of the pressure scale, it is obviously so much more on Seattle because they're expected to win. They're the better team. And this Darnell story is so good. You don't want it to end up like Game of Thrones. You wanted to end up like Harry Potter. And so that's the only part of this game where it's like, the Patriots have nothing to lose, which is always scary coming into a game like this. Craig, I've already had a game of Thrones Super Bowl experience. Can we please not fucking do that again? Yeah, we were coming off a win. You were going for back to back. I know, but everybody compared the Siocs ending in the Super Bowl against the Patriots in 2014 to the mountain versus the Viper. Like, truly, it was the parallels are horrifying. So let's not say that again, please. No more games. Game of Thrones. I almost put that picture online this week. And I looked at it. It was like, it's just, I can't actually put this on the graphic of like, it's been the hands on the skull. Oh, it's brutal. It's so brutal. I don't want to get too deep in X's and knows here, but I have a strategy thing. I think I want to run by you guys. So I watched the the Affleck Damien movie, The Rip on Netflix. Oh, yeah, I watched it too. I thought it was pretty good. It was, I watched 40 minutes of it. And then I just started doing stuff that I can't do. I watched 40 minutes of it. And then I looked up the plot and I was like, eh, I thought it was like, you interviewed enough, but you watched half of it and then stopped to read the rest of the Wikipedia and bailed. Yeah. Because I was not really feeling the movie. I was like, what has this in? I don't really care. I do. Yeah, I know what you mean. I mean, look, it's not going to win any Oscars. I thought it was enjoyable. I liked it. I had a good time. Honestly, shout out Netflix. The Netflix little trailer, I was like, I want to watch this. And I started watching it. And then I skipped the first nine minutes. And I watched it. And then I was like, I don't have time for this anymore. But the point is, in the movie, they find like, I don't know, like $40 million, $50 million in the walls of this home. And then all these cops are like, what do we keep this? What do we do? And the first thing that they'm saying is like phones, phones, everyone, give me your phones right now. And I think that's what Mike McDonald should do with the CX. 100%. You have your like phones, phones, you make the championship game. Get on the bus. You're not on the, you know, variable to the Patriots that you're not on the bus. You're not going to the game. You want to give the bus phones. And no one is the phones for two weeks. I 100% agree. That's a good, that was a good reference, I fits. Well done. I've only seen the rest of the movie. I could have landed the plane. But don't tell you what happened. I hope it was a good move. I won't spoil it. I won't read the Wikipedia. It works out how you think. Yeah, I think. Yeah. Yeah. I think all I saw was a lot of good memes about Ben Affleck smoking indoors, which I really appreciate. That was going to go shaded into his contract. He's like, I'm not going outside. Look, I'm not doing this. Oh my god. Yeah, I will say, other stuff. I agree, though. The CX, I mean, the CX are favorite for reason. We're going to take them for a reason. If you look at the players, they're better in every spot, more or less, except for the, I don't love that. I do think the Patriots interior line of like, Milton Williams and all of them are better up front. Lincy Outel. But everywhere else Seattle should have the advantage. And frankly, the other person, frankly, is Mike McDonalds, who has been the best coach in the NFL this year, probably, along with Mike Raeble. These are the two coach of the year, guys. Like they should be the coaches of the year. And McDonald is like, everything he's done with scheme and everything. And just he's at the cutting edge of shutting down all these modern offenses and everything. And confusing it. But the difference is Raeble, I just don't think is going to be the moments too big for him. But Mike McDonald, the other day, is he's still the youngest coach in the entire league. It's like Sean McVeigh took the league by storm, got there versus Belichack and like, what is Pan said? It gets also important that Mike McDonald, Wilson doesn't, he has to be calm as well. Like, you know what I mean? Like realistically, his sideline management, his timeouts and everything. Like, he hasn't managed to gain perfectly the conference title. Games and so the way he uses challenges, the way he uses timeouts, he's the play collar. Like he also has to be like on it. But other than that, I think like pretty confident in him on all that stuff. What did he screw up? I think there was maybe I missed him. I think just like one timeout thing in the second half, but it wasn't like a big deal. I think just he just he's been doing a good job. I think he's just the moment should be too big for me. No, I agree though, because I don't think we would have said, I mean, coming into the Super Bowl with McVeigh against Belichack, I wouldn't have thought he would not be able to make any adjustments the entire game. But I think so many milled in that asked to stay anonymous, but they said they were on a very, very, very junior level person on the Michigan staff that make McDonald's on the gym harboh. And they said they were talking and like all the staff was there and they were losing, they were drinking, they were bowling. It was like a bonding thing. And they were asked Mike McDonald, like, are you good at bowling? He's like, no, man, I haven't bowling years. And then McDonald had like a 260. And they were like, it wasn't like in a braggie way. They were like, he genuinely is just amazing at everything. And I read that and I'm like, yeah, he's probably good. He's competence porn for football for me. I'm like, I have full faith in him to get everything right. I do too. At least that's under his control, you know? So I, yeah, I know in the same way that you can, we can be upset about and the Patriots went from Tom Brady to Drake May. DK, not bad that you went for Pete Carroll, the mic is not. I know. I was actually, I brought this up with the CX group chat the other day, man. Probably kind of sucks to be Pete Carroll right now, just because he was such a legend for the way that he turned the team around and turned the CX into a perennial, you know, championship caliber team for a long time. They were one of the best teams in the NFL. If you look at the records for that decade, one of the best teams in the NFL. And I think there was some, I don't know if animosity is the right. There's maybe too strong, but like when he got forced out by Schneider and then Schneider replaced him, I remember Pete Carroll, it is going away. Press conference was like, all right, it's on you now, buddy. You know, like good luck. And then immediately McDonald is like turning the CX into one of the greatest teams we've ever seen statistically. So yeah, that's, I mean, obviously doesn't, it doesn't furnish anything that Pete killed it, but I'm like, man, that make it kind of. Well, it does a little because this is the ultimate knife twist is think about the different carnish amendment in the AFC championship game outcome. Because it's the Patriots, all the things you see this week are about the Malcolm Butler interception and like the worst until the, you know, Falcons is a different kind of collapse, but that was the most knife twist like sudden shift in a Super Bowl, it's the most painful single play in Super history, no offense decay. But if the Broncos were in New England and the Broncos were in the CX Super Bowl, all you'd be seeing is the Legion of Boom dominant, so for Denver all week, and Pete Carroll could go to radio row. Pete Carroll will be like, yeah, we're going to beat the crap out of these guys. And like literally one of the best defensive form formances ever and then were the worst coaching moments ever just because of the other team they're playing. And it's like the pain that Pete Carroll's feeling this week instead of pride is also kind of sad. I mean, dollar check too. It's crazy. The, the perilous for that game. It is, it is weird. Brady's probably not at Brady picked Stafford over May for MVP, which felt a little pointed. Maybe it's just honest, but feels pointed. Bell check is that, I mean, God, what a week for Bell. Bell check. Bell check. Actually had a good week. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, we have to talk about the end of the day. Yeah. Bill had a great tweet about Bell check. Did you guess you that? No, I missed it. What do you say? So Sal got hacked on Twitter. Oh, I did see that. Did he get that corrected or did he acknowledge that? No, maybe he just made a lot of money off the crypto scan that he was, but I don't know. Maybe you know, and Bill tweeted, honestly, it was worth Bell check waiting a year for Bill pulling to be properly commemorated as a petty, why need not honest hypocritical self-serving, score-settling dickhead. He's already given out two versions of his vote. We all know the truth. I'm glad this happened. Pullion, pullion following up with, I don't remember with 100% confidence who I voted for if the Hall of Fame. And I'm like, well, that's weird. His first story was I voted for. That's disconcerting. His initial story was I voted for him. And then the interview again, he was like, I'm pretty sure I voted for him. Yeah, I mean, honest, in all seriousness, you should probably be, you should probably not, they should rescind his vote for not knowing who he voted for three days later. You can't even tell, can't even pretend you know he voted for three days later. Kind of a basic cognitive test. You have to know who you voted for. Did you vote for Bill Bell check? I can't recall. You're fired. Right. Why would he even do it? Like, you can't, God, at least lie with more confidence. What do we, you have just like, all the things you're talking about are really weird. It's been a weird week. Sam, Sam Donaldson, the Super Bowl, Bill Bell and she couldn't make the Hall of Fame. I open up the Epstein files and the Giants are there. I'm like, what the fuck is going on? Jesus Christ. The times we live in. The times we live in. I, whatever man. You think John Harba is like, God, what? What did I walk in? I could have the bills job. All right, let's just say from anything else in Seattle Victory DK, they're a better team. They should win. I think it's in terms of matchups. I saw this from Aaron Schatz. He did a great preview of the game. Donald has been one of the best play action passing quarterbacks in the NFL this year. But the Patriots have been one of the best at defending play action passes. So that could be really interesting to see how that chess match kind of plays out. I do think the Seahawks are going to need to run the ball in this game. And they've been a lot better over the last four or five weeks, Kenneth Walker. They've been getting him outside more on like toss plays, wide zone. They've been getting him involved in the passing game, which I think will be really crucial in this one as well. So there's a lot of interesting, I think, matchups. Again, this is a good, a very good Patriots defense. And I think the Seahawks are going to have to have some answers for it. Well, let's transition to let's say the Patriots win this game, which again, we're 14 point underdogs to the Rams 25 years ago. And they won that game like, I mean, think you nailed it. The two things right there, which are that Seahawks need to run the ball. But the Patriots are kind of good and situationally kind of getting the stops. They need sometimes it's like, they're not great and third and short and stuff, but they can get soft and they're really good against play action. Yeah. The Patriots also have been blitzing a lot in the playoffs. And that's been a big part of their defensive game plan. The Seahawks and Darnell in particular has not been great against the blitz. So the Rams went out. The Rams should have blitzed Darnell. They were so passive and so conservative. And it's I just can't give him time, honestly. And he's really good at finding the open man. And when he's pressured and when he's rushed, I mean, this is the same with pretty much any quarterback. But I think Darnell especially, he believes so much in his arm and his ability to fit passes into tight windows that he will force a pass. And that's where a lot of his turnovers have happened this year. So that's something that's going to keep me up at night, kind of thinking about this game on Saturday. And I think, you know, the Seahawks have to have answers for kind of mitigating this past rush. It also doesn't help that Kenneth Walker is going to be the main running back out there. Zach Sharvene was the best pass past protecting running back that they had all year. And they really trust him. That's key point. You can't say that enough. Ken Walker as a pass blocker is going to come up in this game. He had a great pass block in the Rams game and the Rams win on one of the crucial plays. I want to say maybe on one of the touchdown plays. But generally speaking, Sharvene has been the better pass protecting back. The more trusted pass protecting back. And so again, that's another variable that is going to be kind of happening in this game. Again, I think the Patriots match up pretty well with the Seahawks. All things considered. And so this could be one of those games that's low scoring, grind it out. You know, the like kind of the Seahawks first win over the 49ers a couple of weeks go, whereas I think 13 to three or whatever. Seahawks blew a bunch of opportunities they had and it came down to the end. I could see this game playing out that way. Yeah, it's super, it's super boring. But underdogs, I think usually win because the players you've never heard of. And it's like, Grazable, Anthony Bradford and Jalen Sundell. And it's like how much have we talked about them this year? But like that's the middle of the Seahawks offensive line. And I think that the Patriot again, how many times have we talked about Milton Williams, Christian Baramore and Cory Durdon? But that's the Patriots in theory defensive line. And like, those guys are probably better and they're going to do a bunch of weird stuff. It's done something. But it's weird because every time I keep talking myself into this, it's not enough for the Patriots to basically they have to turn Sam Darnold and make him go full CJ Stroud. Yeah. But Drake May has to also not do that. Like Drake May is also going to be under fire. And Drake May has to not match Darnold like turn over for turn over. He has to play like it. And it has had some slow starts in the playoffs. I mean, it has taken him a while to get going in kind of every game. And he's done a really good job with his legs. But he has not been as kind of rock solid as he was in the regular season for the last three games. I mean, correct to that. The numbers against the Chargers, Texans, Broncos. Passing yards per game, 177 passing yards per game, 55% completion rate, 6.9 yards per attempt in an 84 pass rating, which is like way, way lower than all his regular season numbers. I mean, dude, you know, you can make the case. Oh, this is because the Patriots played fantastic defenses in the playoffs. They've averaged 15 offensive points per game in the playoffs. 15 and guess what they're playing. Once again, one of the best defenses in the NFL. So when you look at that, you know, you start to think of a number in your head of what is he had to let to get to where you can feel comfortable winning this game? 16. Get it 21 points. 24 points. You probably feel pretty good. Right. Okay. So we're going to have a big prop at show. We're going to be in Los Angeles next week. We're going to be all together for the Super Bowl. We're going to be in person doing a bunch. It'll be fun stuff. Falson, Instagram. It's funny that DK just outlined how horrible the experiences of watching a game with other people. Yeah, you're going to be watching the sea. Off with like 30 finger employees. Yeah, that'll be super fun for you. And they're going to be recording me. If the game, if the game sucks halfway through, let's just Wikipedia and turn on the rip. That's a good idea. We can see all that ends. We're going to have profits. We're going to go through a bunch of profits next week. We'll have an episode we're going to do like a nether preview with, you know, five more days to marinate on it. And we'll win the run at ringer one of seven. And obviously, what we going, we're having an episode right after the game ends. And so we'll go through all that. The commercials have to show everything. And DK will either be inconsolable or the happiest we've ever seen. Have been person. So we'll see what that'll be fun. So then yeah, and then often, super will stick with us because not only DK in person, after the Super Bowl, we'll have that unspotted by Netflix and everything. But we're covering the whole off season draft, free agency trades, all that. We're going to the combat and Indianapolis. Going to the combine. Eat as much shrimp cocktail with horse riders as we can possibly take. Yes. I've made yes. Okay. So do a couple of emails and get out of here. Couple of the news. And then yeah, we can get out the first. I just want to DK, but before we go report and just seeing now this happened while we recording this report. That according ESPN, Jody Allen, who is controlling owner of the sea ox, is planning to put the sea ox up for sale after the game after the Super Bowl. Is that right? That is reported by Seth Wickershimm and Brady Henderson is the sea. Wow. ESPN reporter. Yeah. So Paul Allen owned the team and he died in 2018. He obviously like mega billionaire Paul Allen. And then he signed like that. I think the giving pledge that whole like we're going to give everything away, but it's hard to give away $40 billion. So his sister is on the team for like seven years. So why are they saying this right now? Thanks a lot. But that has been kind of wanted that. I don't know. Classified. It has been, it has been something that's been on the dock. And I guess like people have been expecting this for several years. I think according to Alan's will. And again, I don't I didn't. I don't remember exactly what it said. But I think he stipulated that she had to sell the team. So it was kind of like the fact that she's held on to it for this long. People were like, okay, so what's going on here? And so yeah, that makes sense. It'll be very interesting to see who kind of steps in and wants to buy the team. I think obviously people make the obvious connection. Jeff Bezos or Bezos, who owns Amazon and is a Seattle, you know, linked to Seattle in a lot of ways. So that will be weird. I don't want to think about that right now very much. But yeah. Maybe if we win ring or one oh seven, we can try to pull some money together. Sure. Maybe we'll have minority. Do you like the great thing? We're waiting ring or one of seven. We're like, we would like to see ox please. Maybe a minority stay. It would be nice. One sea ox please. Okay, other thing, do we care about Todd Monk and go and become in the head coach of the Cleveland Browns? Sure luck. Were you surprised by that? And high fits? Well, I mean, we said it that when John Hubbard was hired, there was a report that basically Todd Monk wouldn't be the giant softens accorded or unless he gets the browns head coach and job. And unfortunately, he got the browns head coach and job against his essay for the little browns SATs. He wrote was really good. I mean, a little he got a name on his essay. Got a name is essay congrats. I mean, we all I mean, it seemed like it was him and if not him, Jim Schwartz, I don't think Jim Schwartz is going to go back as the defensive coordinator. It's kind of humiliating to basically be turned down by like a dozen candidates and still not get the job. I think Monk and took it because he's in their 60s and frankly, these guys in their 60s don't have a lot of options, honestly, unless you're Mike McCarthy. But did you see the video of Shadour meeting Monk and Monk and it's like, we tried to drive your ass last year. Didn't work out though. Underrated Shadour's essay, I won't go to Baltimore. I won't be a backup quarterback to Lamar. Like, kind of would have been a good idea. Good luck to Todd Monk and the Browns. I don't know. I don't think Shadour would have been a pro baller had he backed up Lamar this year. That's a good point. We should also shout out the Browns this year to pro ball quarterbacks. Joe Flacco also has been added to the pro ball roster. People doubted the Browns trading Joe Flacco. Maybe Andrew Berry is smarter than Mike Tom. Because Mike Tom is not in the NFL right now. And Andrew Berry had two pro ball quarterbacks to the Browns. Why is it Aaron Rogers and Pro Baller if Shadour and Flacco are? What are we doing? What are we doing, Craig? Is that rhetorical? You never made the pro balls entire career. I know this is his first pro ball. What? Good for him. Joe Flacco and Shadour Sanders are pro ballers. Who combined played why? I mean, this when I say this, I never want to talk about the pro ball ever again. I'm fine with that. I know it's going to radically change it or unless I become a pro baller, I don't want to talk about it yet. You know what's funny? I was thinking about the pro ball and all those suggestions because you were saying we could fix the pro ball in an hour. The NFL kind of did all the stuff people yelled at them for what they're like, right? Have them do stuff the whole weekend. Have them do like dodgeball and stuff and you know what they did and no one watches Tuggle or sounds cool. The timing of it is not ideal. It's because the NFL extended the Super for two weeks and it's like it should be the I think it's as simple as if Patrick Rones won the Super MVP and then went to the pro ball. You would just be more likely to turn it on. None of the players in the Superl are in the game. Yeah, I just think inherently it doesn't make sense for the NFL for football to have like an all-star weekend. It just doesn't work. It's just physical sport. Nobody wants to do it. Everyone's been eliminated. They don't want to get hurt. There's no stakes. No, also honestly, the NFL is not a personality driven league like the NBA is. It's like nobody knows anything about these people. I just don't know what they look like because they're all wearing helmets all the time. They'll bring it back when again, when your football is over and this is the last bit of football you get, people will turn it on because that's all you got. You know what they should do? You know how like in a boxing match, there are different cards that lead up to the main event. Super Bowl Sunday, there should be like a game before that's the undercard. It's like the puppy ball, but instead of the puppy ball, it's like you should really counter program the puppy ball. Yeah, I don't know what it is. Hold on, hold on. Do you think we could make one of our ringer one of seven props to puppy ball? I don't know why they wouldn't allow that. I mean, Sal is probably already gambling. All right, I mean, come on. I made some money on the puppy ball in the past. I think Sal tweeted about it, but maybe that was his partner. Maybe that was he got hacked, yeah. That's a good idea. The pro ball should be the day of the Super Bowl. Yeah, I don't know. That's a fun programming day of. Oh my god, it's like your worst idea. Idol money lies in your current account picking crumbs out of its belly button wondering, should I eat them? 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We're going to try to pick you off two times and end the game. So, I kind of like Sam Dornell over 250 yards for like, I don't know, it's like one and a half to one or one plus one 30 or something. I'd rather that than Drake May. I feel like Drake May is more likely to have 90 yards than 300. What if we just take the unders? Can we do that? You want to just take the unders? What are they? We can take Drake May under. So, under for Drake May, we can do that. And then what about rushing? I also kind of don't want to bet on Ramon Drake versus CXP. Kind of like with Drake May rushing. We do Drake May rushing. Oh, Drake May rushing over Drake May passing. Yeah, under. There we go. That's kind of nice. Okay. We'll do that. Head to Fandals and celebrate the last call for football every day leading up to Super Bowl 60. Email? Emails. Email or at once. Email. Email. This one's from Turner. T-Boom. Hooch. Pirates of Carabin. Turner. Will Turner? Turner. Hooch. Strap's. Breakfast is 16 ounce black coffee. Dude, a lot of people just rip 20 ounces of coffee to tell you I respect it. Same. Uh, Turner says I went to school with Wisconsin and our entrepreneurship professor owned for loco. Whoa. Get out. What you see why we beat it Lee was like that is incredible. Turner says he ran a major brewery in lacrosse with content, which is best as I can tell it's true. And they manufactured for a loco. We would constantly give him shit about the blackout night he's subjected us to from this fine mul spirit. After for loco was changed forever, his next big idea was flavor droppers. Deuce with caffeine to add to malt. I guess like me over liquor. I don't know. Anyway, um, I don't know if this is literally true of like just one guy owned for loco, but it does seem like for loco was made was map manufactured like brewed and lacrosse Wisconsin. Anyway, I have contacted Turner and been like, give me disguise email. I want this freaking guy. I want to talk. Obviously, if we can get this guy in the show, I want this professor. Oh, for sure. Do you think he still has like private batches at home? Of course, he's going to age like what's worth war? Some bottle of run James has in his cell. Like my grandpa with all the RC Cola. Yeah, it's like real moonshine. He has like real four loco in the tub. Agen is like 2000 seller. The 2009. This is a fine vintage Craig. This is our sour grape vintage from 2008. 2008. You better. It's our best year, I think. Parrot with a 2018 mango jewel. Oh my god. Yeah. Okay. This is our 20 2008 blue raspberry limited addition. If anyone else can put us in touch with the guy who owned for loco, please, please immediately put us in touch. Blue raspberry is the best flavor because I don't understand it. I don't know how what is blue raspberry? I actually have never thought about that. I got to think blackberry really, right? Yeah, but why did they come up with that? I don't know. So is there a thing that if like your color influences how you perceive the taste? Like if you just took red raspberry but made it blue would it change? You perceive it? You know what I mean? Definitely. I my psychology class in high school, I did a study where I had people try different flavors of jello that I changed the color. And I had to meet like green red, like kind of like a cola colored. And it was the same flavor jello. And they thought the brown one tasted like cola, they thought the green one tasted like apple and they thought the red one tasted like cherry. Well, that was high school, right? So you got an egg because you get a 4.1 GP in high school, right? You damn red. That was an AP class too. So even if I got a B, it was competitive end intelligent. It is weird how the brain works. Like it's just weird that I don't know. But also, you know, someone said how visually influenced we are. Well, yeah, I forgot where I saw this, but someone I didn't invent this, but someone was like they were talking about there's no American food, right? Like pizzas from Italy and you know French fries are from France, hamburgers are from Germany. And someone's like in America, colors are flavors. Red. That's very true. That's our cuisine. God. Sure. I mean, says a lot. What's your favorite Gatorade? You see a color. That's a marriage. Probably orange. By the way, the red gatorade to be dumped on the coach is 12 to 1. But does no one do red gatorade anymore? Stains the most. I have no idea. I think that is the thing. What do you guys think? If we spent two minutes here, what is the most American food that you can you can make the case that America invented? Oh, barbecue. That's not barbecue. Oh, bar most American food. Yeah, that's good. Because it's genuinely like the history of like the southeast, but also just US agriculture. And it's like it doesn't, it's like actually an American thing. Did they invent it? Did we invent it? I believe I mean, other people have done slower, but like barbecue, there's a very good argument that like, like there's a board day in episode when they argue barbecues like the most, which a lot of people would argue other things, but even like I feel like you'd say cheeseburgers and fries, but hamburgers are from hamburgers or barbecues. I know. I'm trying to think I feel like a lot of fried stuff like I feel like a chicken tender is very American. That is like if you go to Europe, that feels like our actual export is fried chicken and fries. And like just chicken tenders fries and cheeseburgers like mass produced is like our vibe. Like breading chicken and frying it. Is that American? I think I think yes, it is. I think it was the best way to take it. That's another like Southern thing where I think the idea was fried chicken would it stay longer if you fried it for like multiple days that have never refrigerated. I believe I know. I'm trying to think of what else is just like a really classic American food that you can't easily trace back somewhere else. But it's weird though that like real long people live without being able to use a sick risk. No, I said cereal. Cereal. Probably. Maybe no other country coming up with fucking no one fucking eating cereal. Dude, I gotta tell you cookie crisps is fucking crazy. It's a bag of cookies. No, but Craig it's healthy because you put milk in it. We talked about Girl Scouts in a day. They should just pour it in a bowl of milk cause cereal. I just Google where it was cereal invented. Yeah, United States guy invented cereal. We did this. The whole breakfast most important meal today was invented by the Kellogg guy. Whoever. I know, it's all advertising. Do you guys ever have your head grape nuts? Yeah. Just like it's a magic food that you you can never get to the bottom of the bowl with those things. What? No matter how little you put in your bowl, you can never get to the end of it. It's a magic food. I don't understand what you're saying. You're talking about it's the most dense thing. Yeah, imaginable. I like cereal because I prefer eating large like I like quantity. I like volume. It's why I love popcorn is my favorite snack. I love just like the giant bowl of popcorn. Yeah, I love popcorn too, but my issue is popcorn. The kernels who gets stuck in my how do you with your esophagus thing? Not you don't get curls stuck in your throat constantly. My esophagus thing has nothing. I mean, a small kernel is not an issue for my esophagus. It's like like chicken. A dry piece of chicken. Breast is an issue, but I just love I make popcorn at home. And I will make it entire vat and just have that for dinner and this is your thing popcorn. I just love pop. I just like I always get the stuff in my throat and then I drink water and then movie theater and then I have to like drink so much water because I don't really get a cut in my throat that much. Also, it's a good excuse or every time you eat popcorn, you have to floss after. So it's actually a good excuse to actually get for you have to tell you flossing the key to flossing if you want to floss, but early is like ignore the dentist advice of like you got to use the string. Get the floss picks because it like it'll get as most of the job. Yeah, it's like 70% effective, but I agree. But it's like you have to get in there with the little and it's like ridiculous. Just get the floss picks and doing the floss picks every day is so much better than feeling the guilt of having to do the string and not. I like the string. I like the string. If you like the string, keep doing it. Yeah. Strings are right. It's annoying. It's just it's a lot of work. It does the job. How do you feel about the water pick? I have a water pick also. Do you feel like a scam? No, they were they were great. Do they massage your gums? Yeah, I just feel like there's no way they're getting something that's actually lodged between your mullers, but they're doing better than nothing. That's fair, but if you're like, it's kind of fun to spray water in your mouth, it's like you make it whimsical. I think it's isn't it? Hi, if it's your dad's a dentist, isn't it all about stimulating your gums? I feel like that's part of the deal. Yeah, stimulating might be the wrong word. I don't know. No, no, that sounds right. Massaging the gums. Okay. Craig, what are you thinking? Get your mind out of the gutter. I don't know. All right, please email us so you can put us in touch with the four loco guy. Email us about flossing the teeth, not the dance. Can you see that Catherine O'Hara past away? I was going to I was going to very sad. No, yeah, I said, very sad. 71 years old. She's amazing. I mean, legend for a meal. I mean, best in show. She's the mom and home alone. She's what I mean, she's been working up until I mean, she was in the studio last year. Shit's Creek. Fantastic. I was going to say I feel like she has a more or less uninterrupted, I guess bill would use the word relationship with like, I don't know, like everyone between like 10 and 60, totally 15. It's like shit's Creek is I mean, again, the studio like, I mean, she in season two of the studio. I know they just started shooting recently. So I don't know. But yeah, I feel like between shit's Creek and what, a home alone, like that's like 40 years. Yeah, best in show, Beetlejuice. I mean, she's done so much. People will probably, I mean, there's probably like eight different projects that people would say is their favorite Catherine Oh, Hera. Yeah, show or movie super sad. It is. It came out of nowhere. She's great. Really fun. We just did best in show in the rewatch was last year and I had never seen it. So I Oh, best in shows. It's great. So great movie. Jackie was upstairs and I got the thing on my phone. And then she loves shit's Creek. She's like one of the, she loves it. So she comes on stand. It starts. Yeah, it has a very strong following. Yeah. Yeah. And so she comes down and she's talking about something else. And I'm just like, I don't know. I'm like waiting for the moment to tell her this. So then I just kind of don't she picks up her phone. She just starts like weeping. Yeah. Yeah. It's terrible. I mean, 71 these days is incredibly. Yeah. Well, in that note, RIP for real though. She's awesome. Thank you, DK. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Cam. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you, Kai. Thank you, Austin. Thank you, Catherine, and I'm a hero. And of course, thank you, Lord. Lord. Thank you, Iggy Pop. I think I learned who Iggy Pop was by you doing that like six years ago. I don't really, I don't really have a strong relationship with Iggy Pop. I don't either. I know the passengers are very, very famous song that's been in a bunch of movies and stuff. So I kind of have a relationship with that song. Is it a band or is it one guy? Oh, it's one. I had a list. It's one guy. I have a list of bands that sound like one guy and one guy that sound like bands. Of course. Tame and Paula. Good example. Who? Tame and Paula, Iggy Pop. The other one was I didn't realize nine inch nails started. It's just one guy. Oh, Trent Rezner. Yeah, I didn't know that. It's just him at the beginning. Well, he does a bunch of soundtracks now. Yeah, Trent Rezner, Atticus Finch, do a lot of good shit. I feel like what? Atticus, Atticus Ross, sorry, Atticus Finch. Atticus Finch is the Killamockingbird. He was laying down beats. Damn. That would be sick. To Killamockingbird with a score from Rezner and Atticus Ross. Oh, Atticus Finch is closing argument. It's just like fucking ribs at guitar. So now we got a stew going free, but free mockingbird. Just like mock. Yeah, ing. Yeah. Bird. Great. That was good. That wasn't as good as the Girl Scouts should have a show like the wire, but that was pretty good. That they should retroactively. Let's get AI on this. Go back and re-score old movies with modern scores. Oh, kind of like that. It's like a cool or like awful. It's like basically Bridgerton didn't Bridgerton come out this weekend's base what they do is put old violins to like, you know, or got a ground A. My local grocery store does that. They only play like classical style music, but the songs are modern songs. That's sick. I got to tell you, the college football new video games, something they nailed is all the music in it is like good songs, new songs, but they're all marching bands doing them. They're all marching band covers of like songs you want to know. Yeah, that's cool. I like that stuff. Yeah, it's awesome. So it's like the, you know, Georgia state or Ohio state band or whatever just doing like dochi. It's phenomenal. What do you guys? What is your take Craig? Because you're the movie guy. What's your take on shows and movies that use that are period pieces, but they use modern music. So for instance, Peaky Blinders is one. Yeah. A night's tale, I think was like very famous for using like a bunch of modern rock music. Yeah, what a pull. That's a great movie. Yeah, I don't know probably that I think it's cool and innovative. They use queen like we will rock you. Oh, yeah. Oh, and low rider. I have to use low rider in that movie too. It has to be well done. I think there are sometimes in Peaky where it's phenomenal. Sometimes it's distracting, but I will say like Bridgerton's spoiler for all the also if you're a man you have a partner you have a much Bridgerton with your spouse. You need to do that. But like Bridgerton, there's a scene where they kind of do and they do wrecking ball and it's like when you realize that it's a cover, it's pretty sick to be like, oh my god, this is wrecking ball. Dude, the actual straight song sometimes is distracting. Well, I'm looking at the night's tale. Well, we will rock you low rider taking care of business. Take care of yourself. It's like an Applebee commercial. I want to take you higher by I can Tina by sliding the family stone. Then Lizzy. Then Lizzy. Hell yeah. What is this movie? The boys are back in town. Oh, you don't know a night's tale. Oh, this is the Heath Ledger movie people told me to watch. It's gonna move. Oh, yeah, watch it. Yeah. What is this? It was a it was like a night movie. Obviously about him trying to become a night. It's basically like the new game of throw and show. I was gonna stop reading the movie. It's just what the new thrones is. My only memory of that movie is the awesome jousting scenes. That's like my core memory of that. I think it's actually a pretty funny movie, pretty good movie. jousting is wild. Yeah. Should that be the Olympics? Why did it go away? Because a lot of people get killed doing it. But I feel like you're really dangerous. I mean, fucking UFC. We can't have just fencing. Yeah. We can't figure out a way to do jousting without that's probably the horses can't get hurt. That is true. I get out of the horses. Have them on like have AI motorcycles. Yeah, motorcycles. That's awesome. I'm jousting. Wait, that's awesome. Cut. Stop. Cut this from the show. We start a business. Motorcycle jousting. I wish we had a compilation of every time I was going to go stop. Cut this. That's a business. You can't deal with your league. We're not allowed to steal our idea. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm sure that we're like zins, but they taste like junk food. Cut that. Yeah. Kairan right now. You legally cannot take this thing. It's illegal. Motorcycle jousting. Motorcycle jousting in the Olympics. And we'll sponsor it. And all the motorcycle guys are using our Taco Bell zins. The zins that taste like Taco Bell. And now they say that you'd have all these different kinds of motorcycles and all the different motorcycle cultures like you'd have like choppers or crotch rockets or to represent their country. This is great. You do Red Bulls going to do this. The three-wheeled motorcycles. Someone's going to take this idea. Doesn't that bother you guys? This will happen. No, it doesn't bother me. Also, it'd be cool to design like modern nightswear, like chain mail, how cool is that? It's good. I love battlebots. I know you guys are battlebots. Yeah. And the design of our battlebots. We're not going to have like a brown swan designing chain mail. That'd be crazy. Chain mail. Chain mail. Dude, my buddy has a chain mail, like a piece of chain mail for I don't know where he got it. Just costumes and whatnot. That shit is so heavy. Have you ever worn chain mail? It's like 30 pounds. Lord of the rings. That's second, the two-wheeled. Peter Jackson actually commissioned one family New Zealand. They got three years and they had to make 2,000 pieces of chain link armor. And I saw that. I saw that recently and someone was like, oh, it takes three days to do one person's costume. I was like, what the? Oh my god. Talk about something that we just never, ever, ever happening. Yeah. I think you just wouldn't never allow that. Oh, so also wait, where are all those chain link armors? Because like we must be able to, it's not like Joe Burrow at the Batmobile. We probably get one for how much do you think one costs? There's so many. There's thousands of how much could a chain mail cost, Michael? $10. $10? We'll give you 20. Depends on the quality of the mail. We're gonna try to pay DK 40 bucks to Foucault Pits that are sleeper-less than you would take. That's so funny. And that would be the number two tight end and he was also kind of right, which is weird. I saved you'll I saved people a lot of trouble. God. DK, will you, you know, it'd be a funny fantasy punishment is the loser has to do a podcast in chain mail. Oh, that's good. That's right. What about just you just have to go larp. You have to go larping. No, that's that's too much. It's it's rubber dump dump. You should have to do like a peanut. What was that movie with Paul Red? Roll model. Roll. Roll. Roll. Roll. Roll. Roll. Rub it. I'm dumb. I love you. Nothing like a fantasy football podcast. I'm like dude, I'm kind of larping. Where in chain mail? Yeah, I know. In the night's helmet doing the pod with the helmet on. You can't see the face. I kind of like this. That would be awesome. I'm into this. I'm kind of into this. Yeah, that's there's some good bar on my buddy's mail. Or imagine if you had to wear that to the next year's draft. So I got last. I just wear it in a nice costume. Chain mail, the helmet, the whole thing. And I'm just sitting there at the desk live on whatever. Oh, yeah. Traffic. That's pretty good. That's really good. Right. My ass off with the motorcycle. Yeah, there's like a jostling chain like our costumes. What kind of metal is it made out of steel? Probably. I don't know. Man, that doesn't breathe very well. I feel like no. I don't know. Pretty heavy. Iron or steel? Wow. Iron. How do they make iron into steel? Do you guys know? No idea. Oh, we're competing it. I think you should. I think if I just had to guess, I think you like reduce the high carbon content. Oh, wait, you want to guess right now before it's an alloy of some sort? Yeah, alloy. Is that two different metals? How? Yeah, wait. We're going to get emails people telling us how iron becomes steel. But right now, if civilization's been wiped and we have to guess, what would you think the processes? Well, I was joking. I googled it. I said you have to reduce the high carbon content in the molten iron to to a lower level using oxygen to burn off impurities. You know, I hope this speaks to how highly I think of you, Craig. I actually believe you just kind of off the dome. We're like, reduce the carbon. Reduce the high to high. 1.1 GPA in high school. He must know that. I was good at science. I mean, 4.1, baby. GPA. That is a good GPA. I don't know what you guys are saying. It's better than I can tell you Craig. It's better than it was literally possible when I was growing up. GPA is going over four. GPA is the most. This is the most kids these days thing is now you can get more than a four point. I know. It's like more than it's like, what's that mean? It's a piece of paper. So you had a 4.9 day. You could only get four. That was also it was such a scam. Like I had a 4.1 because I like did my homework, studied for a couple hours before the test. That's it. I just like was competent and you can get a 4. You just have to like pay attention. Here's the problem with 4.1. High bar Craig. What is it out of? Because like is it out of like I don't understand. 5.5. But yeah, I can't get a 5.1. Well, it has to do with the amount of classes that you can take that allow you to get 5 credits instead of 4. Isn't it extra curriculars? No, no, it's about AP credits. You can take an AP class and that allows you to earn a 5. If you get an A, it becomes a 5 instead of a 4. And so if you take all AP classes and get all A's to your average, that's a 5.0. It's a 4.0. So 4.1 is not even that good. Not really. That's why he's trying to go to the college of the redwoods. How dare you? That's for my athletics. My GPA is not getting me into college of the redwoods, but my volleyball prowess will. My setting skills. He's the best. He's an 8 at a 4.1 out of 5. And I won't hear any San Diego State Slender. I wasn't going to say anything. Craig loves San Diego State more than anything in the world. The smartest thing anyone could do is I'm going to go to college in San Diego. That's the highest IQ movies ever pulled. I know. That school is one of the most applied to schools in the country. Yeah, you have surfing classes. I mean, I can see why. My roommates are sailing. God, San Diego really is the best. Austin and Craig went to San Diego State. That's right. The vibes on the show are out of control. Good. Yeah, you know, I went to college in Tacoma. Not exactly the same thing. And you had a shitty GPA. Well, I had like a 3.8 or something like that. That was good. That was a 5. Yeah, no out of 4. I could eat anything. Dude, my dad. Right. The participation trophy if it used to be out of 4. Dude, my dad always jokes. He was like, he was like, I like took high school half seriously, whatever. We had like a 3.4. He was like, I got into Berkeley, Pepperdine, UCLA, UCSD, UC Santa Barbara. And I'm like, I had a 4.1. I got wait listed at Cal Poly. I did not get into Santa Barbara. There was not enough people back then. No, the boomers, like the boomers being able to go to whatever college for like anything. And it's like $200 a semester or whatever. And then you could go and get a house and like, you know, it's you get a house for $85,000. You get a starter home at 23 or whatever that flock. And I'm like, I it's a single income household is more than enough to be a middle income. Dude, whatever. This stat rocked me. I know we're getting too real. Maybe we'll cut this. But the when the millennials were 35 on average was like COVID. And the millennials, when the baby boomers were 35, it was like 1989 or something. And like they had as a percentage of GDP. They had 19% of America's wealth. Well, it's well fifth. And the millennials had 2% of America's wealth at 35. Yeah. What is Jen, what is Jen Zee going to have? I don't know, but I know Jen Alpha is going to get back to 19% because not I'm going to determine his name. Sure. I don't know. What's your Alpha's? Jen Zee doesn't give a fuck. They're just they're just vaping. They're just doing taco bells, Zins and watching motorcycle. Just have fucked the lemons and bail. I can respect that. The least we have the four locos. I'll remember them fondly. Shout out Mickey's. If you can, if anybody has one, and we send it to us, we'll drink it. If anyone has, yeah, dude, if anyone has a stash and emails us, is that like transporting paraphernalia across state lines? Like is it actually illegal to have four local nowadays? We'll send it to South to pick it up since he already got hacked. Yeah, don't bring it. Okay. Do you care what drink went if the sea ox lose? Oh! Oh, what's drinking up to the Super Ball? That's a good idea. I'll drink what if they win, too, Craig. We'll be in Los Angeles. Is anyone going to say that? I'm going to go to your sorrows or you'll celebrate like a man. Everyone has a blue raspberry 20. I'll bring my ski goggles. Do some like, you know, champagne stuff. 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