Best of March Madness Part 2: Michigan CROWNED CHAMPS beating UConn, Mike Malone isn't ENOUGH! UNC better drop a BAG in the portal!
65 min
•Apr 8, 202611 days agoSummary
Club Shay Shay hosts discuss Michigan's NCAA championship victory over UConn 69-63, analyzing the defensive battle and portal recruiting landscape. The episode pivots to North Carolina's hiring of NBA coach Mike Malone and the critical importance of NIL funding in modern college basketball recruitment.
Insights
- College basketball has fundamentally shifted to a pay-to-play model where coaching prestige alone cannot compete with NIL compensation packages; schools must open checkbooks to attract portal talent
- Portal recruiting timing is critical—coaches must be hired before the portal opens to immediately engage prospects with financial offers and playing time guarantees
- Defensive excellence and experience matter more than shooting percentages in championship games; Michigan's portal-assembled roster of juniors and seniors outcompeted UConn's talented but younger squad
- The modern college athlete is a business-minded professional prioritizing financial security and career optionality over traditional school loyalty or academic prestige
- Coaching style and player management must adapt to professional athletes with existing wealth; authoritarian approaches effective with 18-year-olds fail with millionaire players
Trends
Portal-driven roster construction replacing traditional recruiting as primary team-building strategyNIL compensation becoming primary decision factor for college athletes, surpassing school prestige and coaching reputationExperienced transfer players (juniors/seniors) preferred over five-star freshmen due to reduced on-boarding costs and immediate contributionCoaching exodus from blue-blood programs to emerging programs with equivalent NIL funding and less pressureDefensive intensity and physical play becoming competitive advantage as offensive talent becomes commoditized across programsCollege basketball talent distribution flattening as portal and NIL democratize access to elite players beyond traditional powerhousesCoaching compensation inflation driven by competitive NIL arms race requiring coaches to manage player expectations and egosMulti-year coaching tenures becoming rarer as coaches pursue higher-paying opportunities or exit due to NIL-driven instability
Topics
NCAA Portal Recruiting StrategyNIL Compensation and College AthleticsDefensive Basketball TacticsCoach Hiring and RetentionPlayer Transfer Portal TimingCollege Basketball Championship AnalysisCoaching Management of Professional AthletesBlue Blood Program CompetitivenessFree Agency in College SportsGenerational Coaching Philosophy DifferencesPlayer Agency and Athlete EmpowermentChampionship Game Officiating StandardsBig Man Development and RecruitmentFreshman vs. Transfer Player ValueCollege Sports Business Model Evolution
Companies
University of Michigan Athletics
Michigan Wolverines won NCAA men's basketball championship, defeating UConn 69-63 with portal-assembled roster
University of Connecticut Athletics
UConn Huskies lost championship game to Michigan; discussed as program attempting three titles in four years
University of North Carolina Athletics
Hired NBA coach Mike Malone as head coach; discussed as blue-blood program needing NIL investment to compete
Denver Nuggets
Mike Malone's NBA championship-winning team; referenced as credential for UNC coaching hire
ESPN
Mike Malone worked as analyst before UNC hiring; reported on coaching hire details
Tesco Mobile
Mobile network sponsor with pre-roll advertisement about roaming and connectivity services
People
Dan Hurley
UConn basketball coach leading Huskies to championship game; discussed as potentially historic coach if won third title
Mike Malone
Hired as UNC basketball coach from ESPN analyst role; NBA championship winner with Denver Nuggets
Dusty May
Michigan basketball coach who won national championship in only second season; fifth coach to win title in first two ...
Tarris Reed Jr.
UConn forward averaging double-double; defended by Michigan's Mara in championship game
Donovan Clingan
UConn center; discussed as potential lottery pick and key player in championship game
Jamal Murray
NBA all-star coached by Mike Malone; referenced as example of Malone's NBA coaching success
Nikola Jokic
NBA MVP coached by Mike Malone; referenced as example of Malone's elite player management
Jalen Brunson
NBA player; referenced in discussion about coaching professional athletes with existing wealth
Caleb Wilson
UNC basketball player; mentioned as potential lottery pick for Tar Heels
Jon Scheyer
Duke basketball coach; referenced in discussion of blue-blood program coaching succession
Roy Williams
Former UNC coach whose hiring of Mike Malone was influenced by his legacy and respect
Coach John Wooden
Referenced as only coach to win three championships in four-year span; historical comparison point
Hubert Davis
Previous UNC coach; referenced in discussion of coaching succession at blue-blood program
Mark Cuban
Referenced as famous alumni supporting Indiana basketball program with resources
Nolan Richardson
Referenced as tough coach who stayed on players; example of effective coaching style
Quotes
"You got to pay to play. You got to pay to win. You understand the landscape of college basketball right now and football in general."
Ocho Cinco•Mid-episode discussion on NIL compensation
"If he on you, then he sees something in you. Something. Yeah. But if he come in there, he'll look at you, don't speak to you. Oh, it's a problem."
Joe Thomas•Discussion on coaching styles and player development
"You ain't gonna be yelling at Luca and LaBonne. It's kind of different. But Joe, it's no sense of security in taking a job like that."
Ocho Cinco•Discussion on Mike Malone turning down Lakers job
"Michigan scored 61 of the 69 points, either in the paint or from the free throw line."
Joe Thomas•Championship game analysis
"This is what we expected to see. I'm glad we saw this. I'm like, man, please don't let us see what we saw yesterday in the women's game."
Ocho Cinco•Post-championship game commentary
Full Transcript
Sorry for the voice note, just running for the taxi. Did anyone pack hair straighteners? No, I didn't. I've got hair straighteners, everybody relax, pre-departure drink anyone? Sure you can roam in the EU at no extra cost, but what really matters is friends and family. That's why we're happy to be your second most important network. Tesco Mobile, it pays to be connected. Terms apply, see tesco mobile.com slash home from home. The first game, Yukon tops Illinois to advance to its third title game in four years. This is a case to be made that Tars read 17 points and level rebounds today had been the best player in the tournament. So low ball has also recorded double digits in scoring in three consecutive games. Braille and Mullins 15 points, two steals, four and seven from three. Yukon held the best office in the country to a 34% clip from the field. And they connected on a barrage of three, 12, the most in final four game for the program. The Huskies didn't commit a turnover in the first half. A record under Bobby Hurley. Man, when you look at the way they play, I don't know what it is about this kid. And I think Mullins is a freshman. Yeah, the first half he and and and read got up to this great start. Yep. And then they were cold. But when they needed to get a bucket, man, you see, hey, Hurley got no problem dialing up a plate and the kid hit a three. And he. When it when it matters most, on key did the same thing. He did the same thing last game. Yeah, he was three after three and was missing and missing and miss after miss. But when they needed it most, he showed up in the last game and was able to get them that win. Same thing tonight. Now, I'm not sure I'm not sure if they'll be able to get away with it. Playing a team like Michigan, that that's much better. That can get you behind the eight ball. No, down, down double digits real quick. You know what? When I look at this, Joe, I don't know what people think. I mean, but for him to win three championships in four years, you're looking at something only wooden is done. Man, what you come up? Not not not not, you know, you look at Coach K, you look at Coach Smith and you look at Coach Knight and you look at Roy Williamson. You look at some of these guys only wooden here. He has an opportunity to win three championships. Yeah. In a four year span. Now, I don't know. I don't want to I don't want to get too far ahead of myself. But boy, he'd be in. I mean, you think about when you can say I only only one of the coach will can say they've done this and that's Coach Wooden. Yeah. Who won 10 and I think he won like seven, eight in a row. Oh, damn. Hey, when you got somebody like Hurley. At the helm, okay, oh, Joe, yeah, I think he he he he he drives belief in his players. I take out to him as far as his attitude, his firing this how they compete like Illinois is a pretty good team. And they probably the high score team in NCAA this year. And for them to get held to 62 points, I thought I didn't think it was a pretty game, but I thought Connecticut controlled the game, the entire game. You know what I mean? Pretty much from start to finish, they got up to a pretty good start. Like you say, Mullins got up to a great start, made a couple of threes early. Now you find a rhythm and it's like playing catch up this game. It's one of nine point game. This game was a lot worse than that. You know what I mean? They only lost by now, but I thought it was noise was really they made a little they made a little comeback toward the end. But for the most part, man, Connecticut control this whole game. Well, they control the whole game. Yeah, I mean, Connecticut is tough. I mean, you look at and I don't know if we've seen a program because you look at a program, you look at what a coach Calhoon did. And we know the level of talent that he brought in there from the Rip Hamilton's to all those guys that he brought in there. Yeah, Ray Allen's Rip Hamilton, Bill in the waiver, Okra for and all those guys and Kimba, you know, cardiac Kimba. Yeah, a lot of these guys. And then Kevin Olly did it with a guy and here come Dan Hurley. And and and and and you look at this. I mean, coach Calhoon, one three, Kevin Olly, one one. That's four right there. If this guy, he'll have seven that'll put him in front of Duke. That'll put him in front of North Carolina. That'll be trailing on and on. That'll be trailing if I'm not mistaken. That might put him in front of Kentucky. Yeah, I forgot. Coach Rupp, Coach Rupp had back in the 40s. Yeah, yeah, Coach Rupp had had a stick down there at a University of Kentucky. But for what he's doing and you understand, make you work a little hardy. Like, hold on. He's at the game. We don't want to have no letdown. That same thing with Connecticut. You got Ray Allen and all the guys there, Rip Hamilton. I just think it's a dope. I think it's a dope environment. I'm glad to see these guys moving along. And I think Connecticut and Michigan is going to be a hell of a game on Monday night, fellas. Oh, yeah. It's always great. Oh, Joe, you know, being in the league and you see those former great, you see Moon Yolks and a lot of these old guys come back to the alumni. Yeah. You know, when you was at Arkansas and some of those old guys be a Coralus Williams. Yeah, our day. Yeah. They Demond Creek. For a lot of these old guys, they come back. You like, damn, man, y'all came back to see us. Yeah. And I can't let y'all guys down. I gotta win this one. Right. Right. You know, it's kind of like when homecoming when everybody comes back, you want to play your best ball because everybody's coming back and you know why they came back. Right. Yeah, I love that also. I love that you look at Duke and how those guys go back in the summer and they play and all those guys that's going to Duke. They like, damn, I damn sure want to be. I want to be a part of that or Alabama, you know, and the way a lot of these teams that produce a lot of NFL or NBA players, they go back. Yeah. When they go back and let's like, okay, they really close. This is really a brotherhood. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. There's no jealousy. A guy's just competing, playing at a hard level. They can pass along what it's like to play, what it's like to be in this situation. Guys started this 40 plus years ago. Your job is to continue it. Just like our job was to continue it. We passed it on to you. Absolutely. We got to continue this. Absolutely. With Yukon. Look, like you said, Joe, it wasn't, I mean, it wasn't like Yukon shot the cover off the ball. No. Both teams, one team shot 35%. The other team shot 34%. Yeah. One team shot 23% from the three. The other team shot 36% from the three. Yeah. The difference is, is that Yukon and that Yukon makes you play like this. Yeah. Yeah. They get up until you. Yeah. They picking you up. They're pressing the ball. Hey, those guards, they pressure back court. They do a great job of rebounding. They do a great job of boxing out. Yeah. Man, I can't say enough about Coach Hurley. You know, I thought he'd have been a great fit for the Lakers, but he's like, nah, that ain't, I'm a Jersey kid. Yeah. Hey, uh, another thing about Mr. Hurley not really taking that Lakers job, you know, ain't really no security in that, you know? Especially when it comes to coaching Lakers, the pressure that comes with coaching Lakers. You ain't coaching a Lakers like you coach Yukon. You ain't gonna be yelling at Luca and LaBonne. Yeah, yeah. It's kind of different. But Joe, it's no sense of security in taking a job like that, even though it's a good job to have. It's a prestigious job to have. Obviously coaching a historic franchise like the Lakers, but I understand why Mr. Hurley turned that down, even with the money they was offering them. Yeah. I ain't gonna be that too long. I'm not gonna be that too long because soon as things don't go right, I'm out the goddamn dough. You're going to be the scapegoat. And I think I think Uncle and Ocho and college, you know, as a coach, you got a little more control. Oh, you got a lot of control. Yeah. You got all the control to be honest. You get you get guys that are very hungry to work and obviously make it to the next level. So they're going to do pretty much whatever you ask. Yes. As opposed to you get to the Lakers. It's better make three under me. How you telling me what to do? So I'll be you know what it's like. You know what it's like, Ocho? You got a lot more your your mom, them and grandparents look at you a lot differently when you making the money. When you pay it all the bills. Yeah. Yeah. That all of a sudden, you know what? It's OK, baby. Come in here when you want to. Where before I could come in the house after midnight, but that baby come in when you want to. So yeah. And so we and Joe, you said something and Ocho, we've talked about this as a 18, 19 year old kid. He's trying to get to the next level. So as Joe said, that guy is going to pretty much do whatever you tell him because he feel you're helping him get to that level. I'm already at that level. What you telling me? Right. What? They're going to be you see how Luke did. JJ told him go sit his ass down. That when he came down there to. Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, and at that at that point, too, Joe, you know, correct me if I'm wrong. It takes a certain coach to gain the kind of respect for players that's already millionaires. They got that kind of money. Yeah, yeah, it depends on who coaching them. You know what I mean? I mean, I play as having a role at the NBA, but depending on the face. That's the head coach of them. They wouldn't listen. Yeah, a little bit more receptive depending on what it is, especially I would think maybe a former player or maybe a coach that has a winning record like a field. Jackson. Yeah. Feel you got to deal with egos, Ocho. Yeah, because at the college game, you can tell the guys because you got five, five stars. Yeah. Yeah. Say in order for us to win, we've got to, OK, you got to do this. You got to do that. But when you got those kind of guys, I'm getting my points down. What he said, even that ball. I'm playing. I'm playing 40 minutes and I'm going to get my numbers. Yeah, right. Yeah. If I if in the course of this game, you know, I can get me four or five rebounds and this shot some assist, but I'm going to get my points. And so that's what feel was really good at. Feel was really good at managing egos. And that's what you have to do. That's it's hard. And as a coach, Joe, you know this, Ocho, you know this. That's a grown man. He got a wife, too. Yeah. Yeah. You how you how you talking to him like like he's there. Yeah, I'm a grown ass man. Yeah. So, you know, you can talk to some of them college players like that. But I promise you get to the pros, bro. It's only so much guys going to take. I'm telling you, they may let it go. Put hands on you. Yeah. They just they'll be up to a. I ain't telling what somebody told me. I'm telling what I know. I can't talk to no man like you talk to 18, 19, or kid. Yeah. Slap five from you. And listen, hey, boy, I've been in some locker rooms while I seen some coaches and some players get into it. And I'm like, hold on. What's going on here? Yeah. It's it's it's different, bro. It's different when you get to the pros, man. It's different. Hey, how you let that man push you down? How you let that man kick you your butt? Come on. I mean, I can never do that because the way we I grew up in the south and the coach, the coach was damn like a parent, whatever he said. If you if I go home and say, great, the coach grab my face mask and did all this. What the first thing she had, what you do? Right. What you supposed to say? You supposed to say, nah, baby, he ain't supposed to do that. Ask me what I did. No matter what I did, he should have grabbed my face mask. And listen, but as a grown man, you got to have a level of and that's what I said. You got to be careful how you a man talk to another man. Oh, well, well, you tried to win games. OK, OK, win game. It's hard to win game with one of your best players got a lot close. Yeah. And that is really important to Uncle Joe at that level, whether it's whether it's NFL, whether it's MLB, whether it's even NBA. Every coach has to know his player. Every coach has to know his limits. You got to know how to coach certain people a different way. You can you can coach some people hard. I agree. And some people you can't be like that. I know you got you got to call them a little bit. I get what you want out of them. Yeah. You know, to maximize their talent, you better understand your players very, very well. Yeah, because everybody hands on you. Yeah, but because everybody don't respond the same way. No, you know what I mean? Like you can. It's just like, man, when I was playing at Arkansas on the coast, Nolan Richardson, Uncle Ocho, I'm talking about man, when you talk about somebody who stayed on my ass, I'm like, I started wondering if he liked me. I mean, but then, you know, as you get older, you like, well, if he on you, then he sees something in you. Something. Yeah. But if he come in there, he'll look at you, don't speak to you. Oh, it's a problem. Yeah. You know what I mean? So I had to learn that way. Coach Kyle would tell the story about when he was a deco ordinated in and Kansas City and Percy Snow. Percy Snow came out with me. He's from Michigan State. And if I'm not mistaken, Percy might have been defensive player of the year. Jason, who was defensive? Nothing about him, I'll say out. But anyway, coach say he was real quiet. Yeah. He did something. And a coach was trying to say something. And, uh, uh, um, and Percy didn't respond. So coach Kyle will cut the light on and say, Percy, you hear what I'm saying? He said, Percy, turn around, coach, is there a problem? Because they turned a lot of nods. Ain't no problem. For real? Yeah. Hey, I found that out the hard way. When coach stay on you, man, don't be one of them guys who always got something to say back, because if you are, you're going to be on your ass all day long. You know what I mean? Hey, look, he got on me. I sit there just taking it and just keep moving. You know what I mean? I ain't never say nothing back because I want you to go on. I don't leave me alone. Exactly. But like I said, some coaches you can ride. Some coaches you got to be facetious. I mean, some players you got to be facetious with. Some players like, look here, son, this is what we need from you. We need to be X, Y and Z. And you need to explain it to him in a tone. Because I'm telling you, you try to talk to everybody. You try to coach everybody the same way. Yeah. I'm telling you. Hey, I can say no, Joe, Joe, I tell you what somebody told me. Yeah, I've seen it. Yeah. I'm one of the few, obviously. Oh, really? My upbringing, Joe, you know how coaching was. I'm sure you've seen many clips. You know how they coach down here in Miami. You know how they coach in the inner city is different. The screaming, the cussing, the coaches slapping to the helmet, grabbing up the yanking. You know how that is. That's how I came up. That bingo. So obviously in Cincinnati, you know, man, Hugh Jackson, I don't care about you winning 85. I don't care about you being Chad. I don't care about you being Ocho. I'm going to coach you the same way I was coached when I was growing up and I understood that. So I'm you saw because I'm used to it from back then. Yeah. I thought, OK, this is how it's supposed to be. I wasn't tripping. Yeah. But other players that weren't even. At my level of talent or caliber. Yeah. Yeah. He had to coach him a different way. Yeah. Coach me hard, man, cuss me out. I don't care what you do. Slap me helmet up, whatever. If that's what it takes to get the best out of me, I'm all for it. I don't know if you can do that now. And I don't know if you can coach a young kid like like what we got. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, man. Parent, parent, parent to be at the school, parent to be at the at the field, cutting the fool. Yeah, they're going to be in the portal here after that. They gone. Oh, yeah. You see the parents not run out there and be fighting the coaches and all kind of things. It would have. I never heard. I never heard of no pay. I mean, in Cornwall, we value the moments that matter. With value friendship, we get to catch up while we travel. I value my time. Taking the bus gives me extra time on my commute. I value family time. The family day ticket makes exploring easy. We have a range of fairs to suit everyone and under five's travel free. Download the transport for Cornwall app for all the bus info you need. Growing up in a coaches around face masks and smack your side the head or do all kinds of stuff, punch in the chest. Yeah. And not one parent ever came out there. No, no, no. Hey, you saw the because most of the time the parents knew the code. They were with him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. You, Uncle Joe, you seen the clip of the seven on seven, the dude knocked out the ref. I think he was fired on it. He was squaring up with the other one. One ref knocked out on the floor. He squared up with the other one. I'm like, man, what are we doing? What is seven on seven come to? Hey, those are those are parents that are living their life through the kids. Kids. Yeah. See if you if like, Joe, what Joe looked like out there. You like you think your kid is your meal ticket. Yeah. So you live in vicariously through your kid. Joe was a professional. I was a professional. You was a professional. Oh, Joe, you ain't going to be carried on like that because you've had your life. Let the kid live their life. Yeah. When you live vicariously through your kid, you think that's you. Yeah. Sit your hands down. Yep. And then the mistakes that you made as a youngster, you trying to help him not make those make them. Yeah. But oh, Joe, you said something. I agree with you, too. I think the upbringing that we had meaning the tough coaching. Yes, I was in when I was in playing a you ball for Mike Greenwood, Sylvester Allen, they kind of raised they raised me, taught me the game, taught me how to compete. And then you get to high school and college is different and I'm getting chewed out. You know what I mean? So by the time I'm making to the pros, I can hold Joe, the coach get on me, man, that's going one after the other. Out the other. Yeah. That don't even bother me, bro. You gonna let me play or what? I just want to play. Hey, hey, and you know what? I don't think a good thing. Uncle Joe, you think about today's society and the way kids are being raised, they're being coddled. There's really no discipline. There's really no structure. And I think it's almost handicapping the kids because once they get in the real world, they got no coping skills. They don't know they're gonna quit. There you go. They gonna quit as soon as it gets tough. It's gonna eat you. It's gonna eat you up. It's gonna eat you up quick. So I wish in a sense we can go back to maybe not how it was when we grew up, but just a little bit of structure. Just a little bit of discipline because life ain't gonna be fair once you out there on your own. It's hard to have discipline. The way these kids talk back, I mean, you might suck. You might they call it kissing your teeth. Do you might suck? Yeah, you might roll your eyes or stomp off or something. But it wasn't nobody blatantly just talking back and calling out the teacher. Like we see clips, students fighting teachers. That was a. Why? I don't see. I don't see. I couldn't be no teacher, man. I couldn't be no teacher. Hey, you see some of the clips. Hey, Joe, you see some of the clips the way the students talk to the teachers. Yeah, I don't see. They slap them. Yeah, I don't see. Get out. You be you better get out my face. They be on the phone. Kid might come back and pop you. I ain't got time for that, man. Could you could you imagine raising your hand at a teacher back then? No, no. Boy, that teacher called home and told Barney or Mary. Hey, I ain't going home. No, you could you call my grandma. Hold on, my grandma. Hold on, my grandma made me, Joe. And I'm supposed to be a mommy Northwestern, you know, with Teddy Bridgewater. No, I'm in the inner city. My grandma say, baby, listen. Once you hit ninth grade, you're not going over there. I need to be able to keep an eye on you. She sent me over there to mommy B.C. High. Why? Because she's taught at the middle school. She taught at Nautilus Middle School. Oh, yeah. Long behold, I was very smart of her because my bad ass always skipping class. Yeah. She able to get over there in 10 minutes to me. Yeah. She already knew you was a little. Oh, hey, Joe, I was a Joe. I was bad, Joe. I ain't I ain't gonna lie to you, Joe. I wasn't I wasn't like in the street bad. I was bad in school bad. It's good. Clown, do it. Skipping, talking, excessive. Yeah. And other and other people P.C. Clown. Hey, you got both lunches. You own both lunches. You're both both lunches, Joe. Hey, I kept an F in conduct. I got a B. I got a F in conduct. Hey, let me tell you how bad I was on the joke. You know, in high school with us and know that to be outside the class while class was going on, you had to have a hall pass. Yes, sir. And then you said, I had hall passes in my bag already signed based on what period it was. So if I got caught in the hall, I can show it. And I got I got suspended five, five, five days when they found out I had stolen passes and a teacher really didn't sign it. Hey, your parents and they be pissed if you get suspended, boy, you got to stay home for three days. Oh, yeah. Hey, you got to stay home for days. Hey, don't answer the door for nobody. Right. Nobody. I don't care who it is. Nobody should be coming here doing work hours. That's how I was shaking out of a couple of dollars. I've been a heredom. I heard my own. Oh, y'all got suspended, huh? OK, that's going to cost you. I tell a born important you got suspended. It's going to be hell. It's a four box three eighty five. Where they go cost. Hey, they get on the bus just like they go to school. Hey, get off the bus. Yeah, it go walk the street until it's time. Get back on the bus and come on. Because boy, if I told Barney Porter, they were suspended. Oh, no. Been on like donkey come with me. What? Man, I mean, they play that fool. Hey, he's like he already told him, say, you ain't got to go to school. But if you go to school, go to learn. Right. Yeah, yeah. Simple as that. He's a you could quit. It's a you quit. You got to work. Yeah. But if you go to school, don't be a he did not. He did not believe my grandmother, the same way. Don't I believe in wasting people time? Yeah. Then people go to other people want to learn just because you don't want to learn. That don't mean you go there and interrupt somebody else learning. Right. Man, listen, I never understood how cats would come to school and act a fool. No one, they parents, then play that, bro. I'm like, man, I know your mom and daddy, but they ain't playing none of that. I don't know why you here acting a clown because I know I know my mom and my grandma were having it. Oh, no. Hey, Joe, you got beans? I got weapons, oh, Joe. Well, you want that you want that big then, huh? I want now I'm saying I'm saying when I was a young man, but I'm saying I want no bad child now. You know, if you was in the house with you, you wouldn't even know I was in that chill in my room. I'm staying I stayed in myself. You know what I mean? But you know, Joe quiet. Yeah, I ain't I ain't even if you were big, though, Joe, you wouldn't vote about you. Man, I was bigger than my grandma. Yeah, I wouldn't vote up. Even if I was even if I was there, I knew I was wrong. I knew if I wanted to break loose or do something, I knew my grandma couldn't handle me. Right. Right. Man, right. I had too much respect for my grandmother, ever raised my hand to ever raise my voice. There you go. Or at any adult, even them teachers at school. Yeah, yeah. That's me, too. Come on, man. You got too much respect for your people, man. Your mom, grandma, your dad. You ain't you ain't you ain't gonna be acting on food like that. I know I would. You wouldn't. I mean, even even people that weren't your family members, like I said, it was a community. It was a community back there. A village. It would correct you if you're doing something wrong. They say, son, you son, you supposed to be doing that. Right. And you and you and you married a barney grand boy. Yeah, ma'am. What do they know? No, ma'am. OK, you want me to tell them, no, I sure don't. Please don't tell them. Hey, you tell you about correct. You hear the pain. Correct. Hey, Joe, back then you get in trouble, depending on where you at, depending on what's the family member or somebody that is close to your mama, your grandfather, your pops, they can whoop you. Yeah, absolutely. What they saw you do. One thousand percent, Joe. Not only can they whip you once they tell your parents, then you get another whooping when you get home. Absolutely. One thousand percent, Joe. One thousand. Hey, let me tell you something. I could take a whooping from anybody in my family, bro. But my auntie, my aunt shared, she was a military lady. Yeah, when I said she had she got twins there. Can never when I tell you all this later than play. I'm talking about because she coming in that swing in that station court. She ain't damn a bell. She coming in that swing in that station court, oh, Joe. Train track. I'm talking about if you in the way, your ass going to get hit. I'm like, yeah, I'm like, yeah. And you know, back then they hit you with anything. They hit you, pick up a shoe and throw it. That wooden spoon. The first one was a drum. The way they hit me in my head with that spoon. The first thing they get their hands on, Joe. Grandma. Yeah. Let me tell you, when you get in trouble, I'm just saying for me, I'm not sure how anybody else, you know, how anybody else was raised. When I get in trouble, especially when it came to school and I came home, the first thing she say is lay right here on my lap. And took forever. It took forever me to get on that knee. Yeah. Lay on her lap. But she put she put me on one leg, right? And she take the other leg and wrap it around to where it's locked right behind the joint. So I can't move. Um, so it's like I'm stuck in the sense. Man, listen, man, I never forget that. I never forget them. What is it's some weapons that I've seen. I ain't necessarily had, but it's what was that I've seen that I'm still scarred to this day. I ain't lying to you. I let me tell you how some Christmas round Christmas. My cousin, them they pinching the bottom of the prison trying to see what they got. Yeah. My auntie them figured all that out when I tell you how she came in and swinging that stitch record while I was in the corner. I'm like, I ain't touch nothing. I'm talking about. Hey, they were some good days, man. But I'll look everybody that I knew in my family. That's how my uncle's raised their kids. Yeah. That's how my grudges. That's how they were raised. So I didn't know any different. I thought, hell, I just everything that I saw. My uncle, they didn't play that, especially third. Cause third, the third, third, third was the oldest rested. So he passed and then my mom, they were, they were close. They were born in 40, mama born in 43. So they were the oldest because back then the oldest son, there was a great chance he wasn't going to finish school. He going to be working with the great. He going to be working with the man in them fields. If they will put wood and they dip in tar, whatever the case may be, he's going to be doing that. Yeah. The oldest girl was going to help the mom raise the kids. Yeah. She's going to learn how to cook. She's going to learn how to clean. She's going to learn how to wash clothes. Cause that was her job, her responsibility. Cause my grandma was going right back to the field to pick cotton. And as the other kids got older, guess where they are in the fields with my grandma. Yeah. They didn't play that all that talking back. But. You couldn't don't slam no dough. Don't stomp your feet. Don't suck your teeth. Don't roll your eyes. Nothing. Boy. Yeah. Boy. If Barney Park. Lord, I wish my brother can tell you all the story. That man didn't play. Not what he's even his own grand, his own kid, grown, grown, got kids. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't do. Don't nobody disrespected that man. I'm talking about nobody. Go to Glenville, Georgia and ask anybody from the ages of 70 all back down. So tell us about Mr. Uh, uh, you know anybody think about Barney Porter. Man, Mr. Barney didn't play. He showed it. He didn't play the drums. He damn sure he played with nobody. Kids. All that kid. That's why I get all that key key kid. Yeah. Yeah. I'm with you on that. Then the, the, the, the, my uncles, my aunties, my grandma, grandpa, man. They ain't played them games, bro. No. And that's why I've been telling you, I said, I didn't grow up like that. No. All that playing. Cause they would say, stop all that playing before somebody get mad. Yeah. Cause when somebody get mad, I'm gonna get mad and I'm gonna tell both your asses up. Mm hmm. Me and Spain. Hey, hey, hey, hey, the funniest thing. I'd never forget Joe, Joe andunk man as a little kid. You know, my grandma, she's singing in a choir. So if she's singing in a choir, that means she all the way up there. I'm back there in the pew. Yeah. So I know what she can't get to me right now. Yeah. Man, I'm in there playing around man with my little brother in church. I'd never forget Mont Olive at Baptist church in over town and they singing. And me and him, we back there, tossing and playing around in church. And she stopped moving, quiet going back and forth, swaying. Yeah. It's just stopped swaying and just look. Yeah. Turn it to a ventriloquist. What? My grandma can talk without moving the lips, oh, Joe. Man. Because we had, you had to be on the first or the second pew, the conventions, pews, whatever you got. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You had to be on the first one or the second one. You don't be a spank. You know, I'll take that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My grandma, my grandma and deaconess corner. Yeah. Boy, my grandma, hey. When you get home. I like you cousin in the church. Hey, hey, they. I wasn't here to have a boy when we got home. Yeah. Barnett and Mary ain't play like that. Hey, so I think, you know what? And I said, I was telling you guys the other day, I think that's a lot of all that playing that keep because he didn't do that. He didn't do, he didn't. Hey, he wasn't about no cracking or jokes. Man, we going fishing one day. We pull up there with my grandfather pumping gas and the dude say, all right, Mr. Barney, don't catch him all. Oh, Lord, you think that man called it me? Oh, Lord, oh, Joe, Joe. You know, you know, it's everybody said, hey, don't catch him all. Yeah. Yeah. Man, my brother put that car that put that truck apart. And cause that and call that man everything. Hmm. Hey, my grandfather had false teeth also. Oh, he had his teeth. He had his teeth on the dash. In that glass cup. No, they were the Kleenex. He had them in Kleenex. Oh, he had them in Kleenex. Yeah. Yeah. Had them in Kleenex. Yeah. Hey, hey, Mr. Barney, but to catch the teeth before they run away. I say, why you I think me is making things. I look at spanking spanking, look at me. I say, why you keep playing with. He said, man, I done told you I'm a grown ass man. I don't play. Yeah. Like that. Yeah. Stop playing with me. Yeah. Before I hurt you. Yeah. He meant that. Yeah. Cause look here, my grandfather was. I think Uncle Willie was the young was the baby. So Papa probably would like the knee baby. Yeah. That's older brother and sister. Yeah. My grandfather. My grandfather had a thing. Don't dump a kid. He would always say, don't dump a kid on his head. You make him thick head. Yeah. He won't learn. I ain't gonna make it to eight. You ain't gonna learn come. He got a problem or he ain't gonna learn. Yeah. But he had a he always tell he didn't play that. Don't dump the kid on the head. My grandfather, we on the front porch, me spanking and his brother. I don't call his name. He thought. Oh, stop. I said, I call his name. Papa was in the bed. He thought me again. I said, I'll stop pumping me. At the while, my grandfather slept naked. At the while, you could hear the change. He put on them cover all. Yeah. I never seen where anything but cover all. Yeah. He went up the road with the strap like Junior Sam. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The full the full cover all. Yeah. I heard him putting them on. Came out there. He said, he said, Ben told you, I said, I told you don't thump the boys on the head. You make them think that they won't learn. Yeah. He said, if you thump it one more time, I'm going to blow your brains out. He got in his car and left. He never came back. I probably was about five. My grandfather, that was three years when my grandfather died. He ain't going to church to look at him. He was at the church, but he didn't even go in there. When I say Barney Porter ain't played. As a kid, well, most of the kids are out. Damn. I mean, ain't nobody left but. The older kids, Thurnell, gone, a BJ, gone, Gladys pass, Mary, Nell pass. And Thurman pass. So five of them gone. Ain't nobody left with Jane, Sharmardine, Mama and James. He did not play. He would if he if he told you something, set your clock back. Yeah, yeah. If he told you if you at church and he told you he going to take your ass up when you got home. Just know it. Yeah. If he you uptown and you acting a fool. I got a dude, a kid pushed me. Man, that's gonna push me. I put I pushed him so hard, man, skin all his knees up. The only difference was they always catch the guy. They do something. Yeah. Yeah. Man, the principal got me and whipped me. Oh, man. Guess what? I went right home. I was a I was cool. I got by half way home. I started crying. And I got that bus. Boy, what's wrong with you? He had a deep, he had a deep boy. Boy, what's wrong with you? That boy pushed me down. I pushed it back. Papa and Mr. Sancho told me we got the car. We got the car. We're right back up there. So you put your hand on this board again. I had no problem. When I say that man didn't play. Yeah. No. Amen. But that's the discipline. So I was used to like coaches grab your face. So you hit me talking to you. So you hit me talking to your own show. You know that you hit me talking to you. So what? I heard you from the sideline. Yeah. But but if that's what you grew up with. But I just like, man, I sure want to be a good enough player one day. A coach won't yell at me. Like I can say not on yelling me like that. Don't coach me like that. That's what I was thinking when I was a little kid. Because boy, they yell at everybody. Man, that's how I was. You just had to take it. Yeah, that's how I was. Hey, Uncle Joe, y'all ever saw a matter of fact chat too? Y'all ever saw the documentary Year of the Bull? No, I ain't seen it. Never saw that. Man, I mean, if you ever get opportunity, Joe, I don't. I don't you be busy. Joe, if you ever get opportunity, watch the documentary chat. I'm not sure if y'all seen it called Year of the Bull. And it's a visual reference on how we are coached regardless of what inner city school you go to, regardless of what Optimist Club you go to down here in Miami. Yeah, it's exactly like that. Yeah, it ain't pretty. And if you watch it in today's time, in today's era, you'd be like, ain't it one hell? Anybody can do that to my child or do it to my kid. But that's the way it was. People kill hell at you about the kid. Now you do that to you. You do that to somebody. Yeah, but they kill hell at you. Man, what? Hey, if you see that, you know, you if you see that, you be like, oh, hell, hell, nah, but Adam coaches in his offices about Miami Northwest. And, you know, back in the day, the way they coach slapping the kids, coaching the kids, fighting on the field, everything on camera. Oh, yeah. Damn. You know, Coach Hall, who coached my brother, Coach Hall, coached my mom. My mom graduated in 1960. I graduated in 86. Coach Hall, coached my mom. My high school coach coached my mom. Damn. He coached all my uncles. He taught drivers in. But he was a coach, all coach, all in his whole favorite word, sucker. Yeah, he called somebody. He called your sucker quick. But he he had the right temperament to be a coach. And everybody knew it. He coached everybody that grew up, coach, all coached, coached their mom, their dad and went to school with their grandma and granddad. So they knew, Coach Hall. And. He from Savannah, not man, you know, Savannah, Glenville is 65 miles from Savannah. For 50 years, he drove from Savannah to Glenville every day. And drove back home. Sometimes he would drive to Glenville. We'd have a track meet in Savannah. Take us to the track meet. Drive us back to Glenville. Drop everybody off. I was the last one he dropped off. Yeah. Drive back, get his car and drive back to Savannah and be back. The Glenville. Yeah. Mm hmm. So every hall of fame I've been in, he's been there. Super Bowl, all the he's been there. That's the kind of that's kind of coach I need. Because the P. We the Parkwater culture. Because I was, you know, I started to get good. So I started to smell myself. Yeah, yeah, I already know it. I already know it. Hey. Hey. I quit. Or at least read to. North Carolina search for the next head coach has landed an unexpected place as the Tar Heels intend to hire a longtime NBA coach, Michael Malone, as the school's next head coach. Malone is an NBA champion from his time with the Denver Nuggets when 510 games in 12 seasons. He's one of the most respected tacticians in the NBA. He has spent the past 10 months as an ESPN analyst. Malone has been coached college since he was an assistant at Manhattan in 2001. He was also assistant at Providence from 95 to 98 in Oakland from 94 to 95. According to ESPN Malone's reputation as a coach is high in NBA circles and having the respect of UNC legends, Michael Jordan and Roy Williams played a role in the hire. So, knowing how Carolina normally hires, they like to keep it in the family. If you think about it, they went from coach Coach Smith to Guthrie to Matt Dardy. I think they had Peterson and then they got old Roy. Yeah. And then they turned it over to Hubert Davis. Yeah. I think that's the succession. Who came in after Matt Dardy? Before you go, Joe. So, being such a separate story, Roy Williams. Okay, so it went from Roy came after Matt Dardy and then it went Hubert Davis. So, you like this hire, Joe? Hey, I love this hire, Uncle Ocho. You know, Mike Malone is a proven winner. Obviously, we know he's won an NBA championship. Correct. On the highest level, he's coached MVP, Nicola Yocic. You know, all stars like Jamal Murray. And when y'all look at it now, we know college is a professional sport, bro. This ain't just regular college no more. So, you want a coach who's well respected, you know, who these recruits are going to idolize and look up to and want to, you know, come to North Carolina. North Carolina is a prestige school, man. So, they trying to get back on the winning track. I thought this was a great hire. Hey, look, and another point is the portal opens tomorrow. Yep. The basketball portal opens tomorrow. So now you got a coach who's in the driver's seat and now he can go out and get some players because y'all know it's probably about 2000 players in the portal right now. And the thing is, Joe, you got to have a coach on hand when the portal opens. You got to. You can't wait. It can't. You can't hire somebody on Wednesday. You can't hire somebody on Thursday. You've got to have somebody in place when that portal opens and says, OK, we got our guy because you can't go to a kid and says, we're thinking about hiring X, Y and Z. The kids want to know who they could potentially be playing for outside of the month. How much, how much you got for your boy? OK, now we talking outside of that. Oh, that's the first thing. How much you got? How much and how many minutes? That's what I need to know. Yeah. OK, go ahead. Listen, hey, Joe and I, that's the first thing I'm going to say. Right. Listen. I know Mike Malone, right? Yeah, we're respected. We're respected in the circles when it comes to NBA. He's won a championship. He coached one of the greatest, if not one of the greatest big men of all time in the Kolioka. Yes. Yes. That has no bearing and no weight is not going to pull any strings being the hiring head coach at North Carolina. You got the pay to play. You got the pay to win. You understand the landscape of college basketball right now and football in general. You know, to get those players in there, you got to come with the bag. Hello. We respect what you've done in NBA. Yeah, we expect y'all keeping it in the family when it comes to hiring coaches at North Carolina. But you have to understand, open up your checkbook if you want to get the players to come there just because you have Mike Malone doesn't mean you're going to have success. Yeah, it doesn't mean that. Now, I respect him and what he's done in NBA. I respect that. The players probably respect that as well. But how much are you paying me to come here? Even though it's a prestigious school, we know what you've done. We understand the players that's come there before, but time is a different now. Yeah, you got the pay to win and that's what it comes down to. And some of these guys, Joe's like, hey, I'm gonna meet my four or five million dollars in case I don't make it to the NBA. I got a great head start on life because, you know, sometimes your parents be able to give you like, hey, my kids, they got a head start. They had no college debt and they had a car already taken care of. So they got a head start. Everybody got, you know, and within a month or two, they had jobs already lined up, but they had no college debt and they had a car. So they got a head start. So guys like, hold on, I ain't make the NBA. Now I can go to the G League. I can go overseas, but if not, I can go ahead and start my whatever I got my degree in or whatever the case may be. I've got me a nice little egg, nice little nest egg. I got 500, I got a million dollars stashed away. Yeah, I can get me a great start if I can just wait until the job that I really won't get to come to fruition. This is how these guys think your business people now. Yeah, all that student athlete. Damn that. Yeah, you're right. Y'all try to do this. How about student athletes? Y'all didn't care. Nobody nobody get no books until they started getting some money. And now y'all try to put student put emphasis on student athletes. Now, which one of them got an academic scholarship? Walk known to the football team because they already had a degree already had a college tuition paid for. Yeah. The college tuition is paid for because of those academic because of the football or that basketball or that baseball. So y'all keep that student athlete boy job. I'm an athlete that happened to be have to be a student. Yeah. Yeah. And we know that even though the portal opened tomorrow, we know teams are already been working. Oh, yeah, they've been talking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're going to act like, you know, tomorrow the first day, but they've been they've been recruiting since the tournament started. You're me. Yeah. Yeah. Teams and then I'll see them a little something with Joe. They don't see them a little something. Yeah, y'all already know what's going on. Yeah, they locked in because look, think about it. We've never seen North Carolina. Obviously, you know, they're going to have a lottery pick. They're going to have a top four or five pick this year and Caleb Wilson. But for the most part, they always have great players at North Carolina. You know what I mean? North Carolina Duke, those those blue blood teams always keep great talent. So with Mike Malone at the hem, I can also I'm sure he going to be looking forward to bringing in some great talent and putting, you know, Chapel Hill, North Carolina back back on the map for sure. Yeah. The you know, Joe, they're not getting because of the the one and done in the NIL, the talent is more spread out. You know, before Joe, they only went to like a handful of school. Yeah, North Carolina Duke, Kansas got first pick. And then another five or ten guys kind of spread out all over the place. But Duke, Carolina and Kansas and Kentucky got picked. They got it was like a summer. If you ain't have no money, you got to wait there. But they done scrapped over. People don't try to show and not it like, man, this show don't feel like no 30. They feel like more like a 32 34 because everybody to squeeze their ass. You got you, your mommy had no money to put it on layaway. So you get what everybody picked over. Call it a joke. Hey, Uncle Joe, just like you said, right, it's a business, right? And when it comes to business, right? When you got goddamn bees, what's the best way to attract bees with the God damn honey? Yeah, so the the college landscape is is is goddamn even that with players going all over the place. So if you understanding that now that you understand it's a goddamn business, hell, goddamn supply and demand. The more you open up your pocket, the more players you can get. Yeah, come to your school now, thinking just because it's North Carolina, thinking just because we have the Jordan brand thing, just because we we hired Mike Malone, you know, who's we are respected in the circles and the NBA. That's not going to cut it. Still got it. I mean, it ain't it ain't cut it for how many coaches they had before Huber Davis. Well, Roy, Roy, and that's why, you know, you see a lot of coaches talking about, you know, I want to spend more time with my family. But I guarantee you, if the NIL hadn't come into a place and you still had the upper hand, they'd be coaching. Yeah, yeah, be coaching. Y'all already know what's going on. Hey, but look, they go on. Hey, they going after these these guys that's in the portal that has experience, who's been at college, who are juniors and seniors. You look at Michigan, people going to copy this, man. You know what I mean? You want guys who not scared, who understands what college basketball is like and going to come out and compete. So, hey, man, if you're a freshman, you got to be a five star and you got to be that boy. You hear me? Yes. You want to come in and play boy, you're going to be that boy. And the fact of the matter is, Joe, is that a guy that's in the portal, he's already been to college. He already knows he has study hall. He already knows he has to live ways. He already knows he has to condition. He already knows he has to go to class. So I don't have to have, I don't have to like, boy, I sure hope he go to class. I sure hope he go to study hall. I sure hope he does condition that guy's already done that. Yeah. Yeah. If I'm paying, look here, if I'm paying you, I ain't fina, I look here. Ain't no on the job training. No, Joe. No. You come. You got to come ready. Experience, hey, when I got my job application, experience required. Yeah. Don't you bring your ass on here, think somebody's going to teach you what to do and get a, okay, I teach you what to do, but you're going to be on our salary. You damn sure not going to be salary. Hey, look, the one thing y'all know is, you know, it take a while, even, even the top freshmen, it take them a while to understand how to compete at the highest level. How to, how to play defense, how to play the right way. Hey, bro, it ain't just about you. You know what I mean? Like we got guys who've been in college three, four years already. You know what I mean? Yep. So it's a learning curve for a lot of these young cats and, uh, man, it's going to be fun to watch. I'm looking forward to see what Mike Malone, you know, pull out his hat. As far as, uh, who are you going to get out this portal? What kind of guys are you going to bring in? What type of system he going to run and what it's going to be like. But if you look, uh, what Arizona coach and the Michigan coach or a lot of these coaches says, I'm not interested because I mean, it used to be, if this job open up 10, 15 years ago, every coach would have been interested in it. Yeah. Matter of fact, that ain't the case now. No, that ain't the case now. As a matter of fact, if they probably would have kept it in the family too. Yes. I just think now, like, like I said before, would it be in a professional sport? You want a guy who's proven, uh, who, who you know that, you know, these cats going to respect. And that's what it was about. Yeah. And you look at, uh, because the coaches now, they're looking at, hold on, I can go build a program. I can, with the portal, I can go build something like Signati and become the second highest paid coach and make it almost 12, 13 million dollars a year. I don't have to go to one of these blue buds because you know what? Other schools pay money too. Now they go portal and we got famous enough alumni. You got Mark Cuban who went to Indiana. Yeah. Yeah. So you got these guys like, okay, this, Hey, if you guys want to compete with the big dogs, this is what it's going to take. And it's, everybody loves a winner. Nobody has a problem spending money as long as we're winning. When the winning stops, the funds dry up. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. Hey, and it's been reported that, you know, his daughter played Mike Ballone daughter plays volleyball at North Carolina too. Yes. See, she on the volleyball team. This is a win-win for him. Yep. You know what I mean? So, uh, man, this is now I got to take off scholarship. Your daddy coach here, he can pay for your way. So I get somebody else. Yeah. Yeah. That's normal. What happens anyway, you know, you got a kid, your son or your daughter is a student there. Your dad's a coach. He probably take it though. I say that tongue in cheek. Let me stop because everybody go, man, you hear what Shatter Shop saying? He said that North Carolina should revoke Mike Ballone's daughter and he should have to pay for it out of his pocket. I said that tongue in cheek. Yeah. Again, the Michigan Wolverines take down the Yukon Huskies 69-63. Michigan wins the program's first national championship in 89 and becomes the first team to beat Yukon in the sweet 16 a later since 2009. Dusty May, uh, wins it all in only a second year as Michigan head coach. Just a fifth head coach in NCAA history to become a champion within his first two seasons at a school. Joe, um, you picked Michigan. Last night you felt they were going to be, they were going to win this ball game. They put three guys in double figures. Neither team shot the ball well from the floor. Neither team shot the well from three. It was an outstanding defensive game. A lot of challenges, a lot of block shots, a lot of some steals. What did you like? How did Michigan, how was Michigan able to overcome? Because we know Yukon is proven, especially in moments like this. Man, Michigan is a great defensive team. Okay. Oh, Joe. And they showed it tonight. Big Mara down there in the paint. He gave Reed problems tonight. Reed was averaging a double, double, like 20 and 11, something like that. It's just the length that he possessed. Obviously his offensive paralysis that he has and he's a great pick and roll. Michigan got a, uh, they got good bigs. They had, they got great bigs and they got good point guard play tonight from Elliot, which I thought that's what got him over the hump. I thought Elliot being aggressive, getting in the paint, getting into T today defense, calls of habits, keeping guys in foul trouble, and throwing lives to the big fellas. Look, neither team shot great tonight. It was an ugly game. Okay. Okay. I ain't gonna lie. It was an ugly game, but the defense that Michigan played, man, they, they, they score easy buckets off of, you know, uh, their defense thriving and, and, and getting out in transition, getting easy baskets. And, uh, they got guys who them been there. I think this is, this is a great win for Michigan, considering the fact that I think all these guys, all the starting five come out to transfer a portal. Okay. Oh, Joe. Yeah. These guys ain't been to Michigan. This, this was their first year. So kudos to the coach, man, for, for getting these guys together and, uh, playing championship basketball. It was fun to watch, but this was a, this was a defensive game tonight. Yeah. I think, I think Joe, I think, and I'll tell you, I'm gonna turn over to you. I think we can both agree. I think everybody agreed that both of these teams play outstanding defense. They get up until you, they contest shots. Nothing is easy. You're going to get contested at the rim because if you think you're going to get layups, you got another thing coming. And I think that had a lot to do with the one, uh, UConn shooting 31%. Michigan shooting 38% from the floor. Michigan, uh, Michigan shooting 13% from the three. UConn shooting 27% from the three. And I think that has a lot to do because there are not a whole lot of open looks. And even layups were getting contested. I thought, I thought the ref did a great job of letting them play also. Oh, Joe, go ahead. Oh, Joe. Now I'm going to say the refs did a great job of letting them play. Obviously, like Joe said, it was a very, very ugly game. Neither team shot the ball well on neither team shot the ball well, Joe, but defensively, defensively, UConn played, played defense well. Michigan played defense well. But when points had needed to be had at the time, they needed to be made. Yeah. When Michigan came on, on, on, on, on the winning end, towards the end of the game, I thought UConn might, might get that UConn magic again. And somehow come back and, and maybe make it a little bit closer, maybe have an opportunity to win. But Michigan held on, held on towards the end. I mean, it was an enjoyable game for me. Watching it, it was, it was kind of ugly, but it, but it was exciting. I guess if you're a basketball purist, especially a college basketball purist, this is the game that you could enjoy. Yeah. I'm going to be honest with y'all. I never thought UConn was going to win the game. You know, from, from the second half, I just thought Michigan experienced that they have a lot of juniors and seniors. They had one freshman come off the bench, which was McKinney. But for the most part, man, they controlled the whole game. Okay. Ocho, they got what they wanted. If they wanted to get in the paint and make a play, they did it. They crashed the glass. I just thought collectively, you know, they, everybody stepped up. The best player, Lindberg, he didn't, you know, he didn't play great, but he played great enough for him to win. You know what I mean? He had 13. Huh? He had 13 points. Yeah. Due to the injury that he's dealing with, the FCL for him to come out and play. Like if this was regular season, he probably would have set out. So probably, you know, they showed a lot of toughness tonight, man. They, I mean, this was a great win for them. Shout out to Michigan and shout out to Connecticut as well, man. I thought, you know, I thought they came ready to play, but for the most part, Michigan just was too overwhelming for him. The thing that started concerning me, Ocho and Joe, is that Yukon started crashing the glass in the second half. They started getting second chance points. And I'm like, damn, Michigan, y'all right there. You got three guys right there. And somehow the ball, Yukon guy has the ball and he lays it back in. So I started to get a little concerned about the second chance points as Yukon started to get those offensive rebounds. But, and again, they had this nine point lead. The next thing you know, it's a four point lead. Yeah. Oh my goodness. Oh my good. Yeah. If you notice, Michigan had a guy deep. Guys like, I ain't throwing that ball. Damn, y'all tied me up. Y'all get a foul, but I am not throwing this ball. I learned my lesson last time. The last thing I would do is to have that thing till he had two guys back there. He did. Like, I ain't throwing this ball. I am not. And the funny thing is, he had just missed two free throws. He did. Yeah. So for him not to throw it, I was like, wow, for him to hold that ball and get fouled again. I'm like, I probably would have got up off that day. I just made two. If I just missed two free throws, there ain't a lot of kids who gonna want to go back to that line. No, no, you're absolutely right about that. And then that's our bare heads up, flint the very end. He got the rebound at the end and threw it down and said, by the time y'all hustle this down, the clock gonna be over it. So don't worry about it. Don't waste your time trying to bring it back up. But this was, this was, this is what we expected to see. I'm glad we saw this. I'm like, man, please don't let us see what we saw yesterday in the women's game. When we get a UCLA, South Carolina, we got to blow out. I said, that's the last thing that we need to see. And so I was glad that we're able to see a very intense, very well played. The officials had no bearing on the ball game because you always worry about that. People having a, well, the official call, this call, and you see a file here and everybody's slowing it down. I thought the game was officiated very well. Yeah, I did. The game was officiated very well. I thought he let the kids determine the outcome of the ball game. And in the game of this magnitude, that's all you could ask for. Let the combatants on the field determine the outcome of the game. Now I understand that there's sometimes they're going to be a file, they're going to be things and you got to call it. Because a lot of times, Ocho, you and I were on the air when we had the, the Kansas City Eagles game. Yes, sir. And Bradford held him. And they, no, no, Bradford is in the locker room telling y'all, yeah, I held him. I was hoping they wouldn't call it though. Oh no, he, he said it. The official, even the referee came out in the pool. He said, Hey, the guy went in and as Juju was trying to uncover back, he tugged his jersey in the back judge saw, he saw it. Yeah. Called it. So I like this, you know, sometimes calls have to be made in crucial junctures of the game. Yeah. And everybody's like, well, swallow your whistle, but you can't swallow. It's too important. Yeah. You can't. That was too obvious, too egregious of a play to swallow it. But in this game right here, I thought he, they let the kids play and Michigan kids played a little bit better than Yukon. I agree. I agree. I like that the officials let those guys play. It was a physical game. A lot of missed shots, which cause for a lot of, you know, bodies falling, hitting the ground. Right. I'm glad, I'm glad the rest kept their composure, man. And really, and it really didn't dictate the game. I agree with you. It was a, it was a great game to watch, man. And if you think about it, if you think about it guys, Michigan was extremely aggressive. They shot 28 free throw attempts. Yeah. And they, they, they cashed. They were 25 or 23. So prior to the guy missing two, Joe, they had only missed one free throw. Yeah. Yeah. You see guys five or five, eight, two for two, eight or nine, four for four, four for four, two for four. So you were getting, that's what you, that's what, when the clock is stopped, I got to cash into these. Yeah. I got to get those, I got to get those points. Yeah. And Michigan did an unbelievable job. Congratulations to the Wolverines. Uh, London Berg said, Hey, we think we're the best team. I think they got a case. He showed a very compelling case. Yeah. To say they're the greatest Michigan team, um, that came through the University of Michigan. I understand the first team won, uh, Lloyd Vaught, Nim and Glenn Rice and Terry Mills, uh, Sean Higgins, Ramil Robinson, but what this team was able to do, uh, 37 and three and who they beat along the way. They beat number one Michigan. They beat, excuse me, they beat number one Arizona. They beat, uh, Yukon who had won two of the three last national championships. They were just unbelievable throughout the turning and, uh, a very, uh, a very hard fought win that they earned and they are your national championship. The University of Michigan, rain supreme of men's college basketball, 69, 63 over the Yukon Huskies. The Huskies was going to try to do something that only coach Wooden can say he's done. Yeah. That's when three championships in four years. Maybe coach Rupp done it in the eight, in the forties, but no modern coach. When you look at, uh, when you look at coach K, you look at coach Smith and Roy Williams and Bobby Knight. And there've been some really, really good college coaches along the way. Billy Donovan, none of these guys could have said they won three championships in a four year span. And, uh, Michigan took down a very, uh, very, uh, uh, uh, Haiti team. They're led by, you know, a bunch of seniors. They do a, uh, uh, coach early does a great job of coaching these guys. They played their well condition. They trap, they, they, they get up into people, but tonight belong, belong to the Michigan Wolverines. Michigan store, check this stat out, Joe. Michigan scored 61 or the, of the 69 points, either in the paint or from the free throw line. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, Joe, was that Michigan team, right? When most of those players coming out the portal, coming from other schools, who do you see that might, I'm in any lottery picks in there? What, what do you think that could make a difference at the next level? Yeah, they got, they got, I don't know if they're going to be lottery picks, Ocho, but they got some first rounders in here. I think Mindenburg probably be a lot late, lot of late. Mindenburg, yeah. Mara at seven three, you can't teach. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he going. Yeah, you can't teach. Hey, he can help any team in the league. I mean, with that, with that presence and he ain't really no big stuff on the block. He got a few moves, but yeah, but defensively. Yeah, I seen him, I seen him switching on the pick and roll, garden guards, but defensively, he's going to help, he can help anybody, man. They, you're right, Ocho, they got some, they got some, they got some first round picks. Yeah. If you think about it, Ocho, remember when we were going to come, when they had big Edie at Purdue, seven four. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's more agile than Edie, Joe in the Mark draft, they got Mindenburg going 13 to the heat. They got Mara going 23rd to the Hawks. Oh, okay. All right. All right, Mara, we might can do something with you down here in ATL. What? And Johnson Jr. going 27th to the Celtics. Hey, look, this, this, this game though, I ain't gonna lie, it was an ugly game because, because for Michigan to shoot 13% from the three and 38% from the field. Man, it's hard to win games like that. But when you, when you sitting in that chair and you shot blocking, you defending and you making the game ugly and you con shot 32% 28 from three. Hey, this, this, this, this ball game could have went either way, but yes, I feel like you kind of never, they never caught a rhythm. They never got, they shoot us. They shoot us, never caught a rhythm. And if you, if y'all really watched this game, you'll see how Michigan switched everything. Switched everything. I seen Mara out there guarding Mullins one time way out there on the perimeter. And as soon as they come, as soon as they try to hit us with a slip, the guy's already pointing, go. Don't even worry, don't even worry about it, go. Hey, that's why we watch film. We know everything they're going to do. They like to run these back, these backpicks, these slips. Yeah. And we ain't giving these dudes nothing. We already know the game plan. We're going to be out there for you to get out there. So I thought it was a great game plan by Michigan, man. Them dudes came to play. They understood what was at stake and Michigan national champs, bro. Yep. The Wolverines 36 point paint, point paint, were the most allowed by Yukon all tournament loans. Damn. That's a big team, man. You got 73 Mara. You got Lindenburg. You got guy at the age. I like Johnson too. Johnson Jr. I like Johnson too. Johnson played great. Yeah, he did. Yeah. Yeah. They had a lot of guys step up and play big, score some big baskets, play great defense. I thought they were really in tune tonight. Yeah, I thought Mara early on, Joe. He was on the right block. He couldn't score. He was spinning towards the baseline, throwing it with the left. I said, if you want that shot, go to the other side. It's been to the baseline and throw it with your right. Yeah. Yeah. I told him that's the only thing I was like, bro, that's twice that you had that shot, point blank and you missed it. Go to the other side and throw it with your dominant hand. Yeah. Unless you, Yolkich, Yolkich is really the only guy that can consistently throw that shot, that little soft baby hook because his touch is so phenomenal. He might have some of the best touches I've seen from a big man from about 10 foot an end. Throwing the ball with either and it's looked like, bro, you're just throwing that issue up there. All I knew was it goes in here. Yeah. I look, I thought Reed battled Mara early on. He missed the first couple of post-ups that he had. Mara did. I thought Reed done a great job. But as the game kind of went on, he started to get to his spots. He called it live. He got some easy baskets. Yep. They able to put his stamp on the game. So, man, I'm, hey, this was a fun game to watch, bro. It was a fun game to watch. Who was an outstanding player? Lindenburg? Uh, probably Elliot. Damn. Who? Because if they go, if they go, because I'm thinking they go by the entire tournament, most outstanding player, they go by the tournament. If it's the tournament, it's Lindenburg. Lindenburg. Sometimes, sometimes they don't do that though. They go by straight, the championship game. You know what I mean? I'm serious. Because if you look at, if you look at Joe, you look at Lauren Bess yesterday, she got it and Gabriella Hawkeye way out play her. She went crazy. So you might be right. You might, who won it though, uncle? Y'all know? Elliot Caddow won it. Yeah. Well, this is unbelievable. What was his classification? Is he coming back? You know, he came from Carolina. He came from North Carolina last year. I know. Yeah, he came over here. He got a little cheese come out the portal. Yeah, he jumped in that portal quick didn't he man? Yeah. NIL done paid off, huh? Ain't a man. Pay literally and figure them because I won a national championship. I got a little cheese in my pocket. Right. That's the double.