Empty Netters Podcast

Charlie McAvoy Will Finish The Year With No Teeth w/ Charlie McAvoy

100 min
Mar 12, 20263 months ago
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Summary

The Empty Netters podcast covers Charlie McAvoy's Olympic gold medal win, his ongoing dental injuries from hockey, and the hosts' sports betting picks and analysis. The episode features an in-depth interview with McAvoy about Team USA's path to gold, team chemistry, and iconic moments like Hellebuyck's save, plus weekly betting segments and playoff elimination predictions.

Insights
  • Team chemistry and long-standing relationships among players (dating back to youth hockey) were critical factors in Team USA's Olympic success, not just individual talent
  • Goaltender protection in the NHL has become so strict that even incidental contact results in ejections, creating tension between player safety and fair play
  • The Pacific Division is highly competitive but underperforming relative to expectations, with Vegas and Edmonton struggling despite strong rosters
  • Consistent betting discipline (like the 'Friday Fade') can generate reliable returns when applied systematically across multiple weeks
  • Hair maintenance frequency and cost are inversely related to hair length, with longer hair requiring more frequent cuts or more shampoo spending
Trends
NHL goaltender injury rates rising due to increased contact in crease area, prompting rule enforcement changesTeam USA hockey development pipeline produces cohesive groups through NTDP and college programs, creating multi-generational team chemistryPlayoff positioning volatility in Western Conference with multiple teams within striking distance despite mid-season strugglesBetting market inefficiencies in Friday games where home teams underperform predictablyPlayer dental health becoming notable issue in hockey with multiple tooth loss incidents per seasonOlympic hockey tournament format (best-of-one games) creates high variance outcomes despite team quality differencesSalary cap inflation making 8-year deals at $8M AAV increasingly attractive for 30-year-old playersDefensive depth and goaltending proving more valuable than offensive firepower in tournament play
Topics
Olympic Hockey Gold Medal WinTeam Chemistry and Player DevelopmentGoaltender Protection Rules and EnforcementSports Betting Strategies and PicksNHL Playoff Race AnalysisPlayer Dental Injuries in HockeySalary Cap Management and Contract NegotiationsDefensive Systems and Game StrategyWestern Conference Standings AnalysisOvertime Hockey TacticsUSA Hockey Development ProgramsGoaltender Performance and StatisticsPersonal Grooming and Hair Care EconomicsTowel Hygiene and Laundry FrequencyHotel Service Standards
Companies
Utah Hockey Club
Nick Schmaltz signed 8-year, $64M deal; team building competitive roster with Clayton Keller and other star players
Boston Bruins
Charlie McAvoy's NHL team; discussed his performance and three-on-three overtime experience
Florida Panthers
Discussed Aleksander Barkov injury and team's playoff positioning despite recent struggles
Edmonton Oilers
Analyzed team's recent performance, internal conflicts, and playoff positioning in Pacific Division
Vegas Golden Knights
Discussed disappointing season performance relative to expectations in Pacific Division
Anaheim Ducks
Leading Pacific Division with strong recent form; analyzed playoff positioning and team performance
Toronto Maple Leafs
Eliminated from playoff contention per hosts' analysis; discussed team's underperformance
New York Rangers
Eliminated from playoff contention; discussed team's recent performance and playoff hopes
New Jersey Devils
Eliminated from playoff contention per hosts' analysis
Philadelphia Flyers
Eliminated from playoff contention per hosts' analysis
People
Charlie McAvoy
USA Olympic gold medalist defenseman; primary interview subject discussing Olympic run, injuries, and team chemistry
Jack Hughes
Scored overtime winner in Olympic gold medal game for Team USA against Canada
Connor McDavid
Edmonton Oilers star; discussed as key player in team's playoff positioning and performance
Clayton Keller
Utah Hockey Club star and Olympic gold medalist; discussed as part of team building
Nick Schmaltz
Signed 8-year, $64M contract with Utah Hockey Club; discussed as key player acquisition
Aleksander Barkov
Florida Panthers star dealing with injuries; discussed regarding team's playoff positioning
Hellebuyck
Team USA goaltender; made iconic save in Olympic gold medal game against Canada
Quinn Hughes
Team USA player; discussed pre-game conversations with McAvoy about Canada matchup
Auston Matthews
Canadian Olympic player; discussed as opponent and childhood friend of McAvoy
Nathan MacKinnon
Canadian Olympic player; discussed as opponent in gold medal game
Jonathan Quick
Former USA goaltender; passed by Ryan Miller as winningest US goalie in 2024
Ryan Miller
Former USA goaltender; record for winningest US goalie recently surpassed by Jonathan Quick
Quotes
"We're going to have to play them at some point. Like if you want to win the whole thing, like you're going to have to go through Sweden, you're going to have to go through Canada, you're going to have to go through Finland, like whoever it is that's left standing, like you have to go through them to win."
Charlie McAvoyOlympic gold medal game preparation
"This is our time. Like, I feel like we've been building this since we were 14, 15 in Ann Arbor. Like that was where like those seeds were kind of planted."
Charlie McAvoyDiscussing team chemistry and NTDP
"I couldn't actually fathom that it didn't go in the net. And then, you know, obviously in the moment, like you just keep playing like it was like we got back to the bench. OK, dodge it."
Charlie McAvoyDescribing Hellebuyck's save in gold medal game
"Whoever plays the best defense is going to win this. And that was what he said."
Charlie McAvoyCoach's instruction for overtime
"I don't have a clue. I got into that pile. I threw my stuff like I cut the side of my face on Hanny's teeth because we both jumped at the same time."
Charlie McAvoyDescribing celebration after gold medal goal
Full Transcript
Welcome to the Empty Netters podcast. Can you believe what this has become? There was a full 48 hours where I felt like I was like literally Superman. Jumbo loves playing Fortnite so he does get on the sticks. Did TR show you the sauna cycle or was that already? No, I invented that. Almost a year now that I haven't taken a body check. That's kind of nice. So we are back. We are horned up and we are going deep. Finished tonight with some chicken fingers and a few guinesses. We're ending to you guys now. That's where this podcast came to life. Ice is ready and we are back with another episode of the Empty Netters podcast brought to you by BetMGM. I am your host Dan Powers and all the horny gals are going to be thrilled because back on the sticks returning to the gang, Sean Mofini. Thank you. It's great to be back. God, it's good to have you back and you look fucking hot as hell with that haircut. Thank you. Yeah, oh yeah, this is the haircut reveal. Yes. I've seen it, yeah. I'm telling you, people's panties are flooding right now. That's why I was gone for so long. I had so much hair to cut. It took that long. Did you? Yeah, he plucked them. He plucked them one at a time. Oh, and speaking of good hair, let's move it to bad hair. The only person worse at maintaining his great head of hair is this guy over here. No, he's not bad at it. Well, he was bad at it. Okay, as always, I was trying to think who you were about to sue her when you were like the only person worse and I was like probably Gavin. Loxy? Loxy, but he just got his hair too. He did. Everyone's having great hair right now, including you. Your hair looks better than ever. Wow. It does, but because you've been doing it up lately, like you've been like actually putting effort into it, not just stuffing into the hat like you're doing right now. I've been using the hairdryer. You're an engaged man now and there's no more excuses. You're no longer just an idiot bachelor. I went to sleep. I did a late night shower the other day because I had exercised. Do you do that? Are you a late night shower guy? I enjoy late night showers. It's so nice. I don't normally do it, but every now and then I'm a bit, you know, if there's been a day walking around, you're getting the underpants sweats going on. I'm like shower before bed. You shouldn't get in bed when you're like covered. That is the clean place. Yes, it should be clean as clean as possible. So showering pre-bed is just such a lovely move. When you're nice and clean post-shower and you slide into bed, it feels like your body's made of silk. I feel as though because I play so many recreational sports, I feel like I shower almost every day because I have hockey at 11pm and then I take a shower and then go to bed. You don't play hockey that often. You play at most twice a week. Three because I have three nights a week late, late showers. Anyway, I take a really late shower and then you probably experience this a little bit even though your hair was so curly anyway. If you take a really late shower with long hair and you're head's wet and then you just go to bed. If you wake up in the morning, you're like what the fuck? This is the back of my head yesterday morning. Dude, that looks like the last of us. Show the camera. This legitimately looks like the mushroom spores in The Last of Us. Sometimes when I see that, we're on the road, we'll be in an Airbnb or a hotel and then I see you and your hair looks like that and I go, Legitimately, tell me when was the last year that you washed your hair. Right, exactly. The mushroom spores. It looks like something is growing in it. It's incredible. It's crazy. That's awesome. Late shower, you're absolutely terrible. Honestly, that's often why I have to wear a hat here because I late shower, wet hair, go to bed, wake up and it's like, and I'm like I don't have time to shower now and then burn dry. Yeah, but you can just do the like get a spray bottle. Like I didn't shower this morning. I usually do a workout in the morning, but I'm trying to rest on Wednesdays a little bit and then work out later in the day. So I woke up and I just dipped my head in the shower, wet it up and then. You know, I never even thought about using a spray bottle, but I go to is usually just a wet towel. Wet towel? Sometimes I feel like if the towel is like not that clean. Oh no, no, it's not to be a fresh towel. I'm sorry, if I clean my towels regularly. That's insane. Listen, that me too, but there you go. There's a lot of people. That's insane. Working off a two week old towel. Admit you're bad. I don't, I would never, if someone in my life hadn't taken a towel and put it in the bin, I would be using the same towel, the first towel I ever showered with, I would still be using. Yeah. He has the Nick Miller from New Girl mentality of why would I wash a towel? The towel washes me. Doesn't it smell like... Do towels are disgusting? Yeah. Towels are, yes. You get out of the shower and I know people go, I just cleaned myself. Why would, dude, water is the most interesting thing in the world because it is both probably the primary tool we use for cleaning, but it also creates the most disgusting things in the world. You add water to stuff and leave it, bad things happen. And you've got that towel, that's just covered in your dead skin, leftover dirt and sweat and grime and then water. The humidity after you get out of a shower as well, I'm sure it probably breeds mold all the time. 100%. You've got to be washing your towels at least once a week. I've never seen enough taste get pulled that quickly outside of a cartoon. That's true. If you're using one towel, Chris, after seven days you've got to wash it. That is insane, dude. No, you're being gross. I don't have time for that. I do not have time. I can barely do my laundry, dude. I know, but you've got to get better about washing stuff. What if you were to have seven towels, one fresh towel every day, if we just do one wash at the end of the week where you do all your towels together, or get 14 towels every two weeks, whatever you're desired, 365 towels, do one wash a year. Yeah, we're talking. That is the level of wealth, Chris. Yeah. Strives for, to just never have to buy a new towel. Or never have to wash it. What if I, the level of wealth I aspire for is that I use the towel once and then donate it to Goodwill. You know what my favorite part is? They're like framing it in a box. My favorite part of the address, he'll be in a hotel with ample towels, and the ability to, every day go, could you bring me a fresh towel every day, he will use the same towel. Yeah. But there's a sign up now that says, go green. Yeah, sure. Go green, get the towel. What I think is funny is there will be, you'll get in a hotel room by yourself, where they will have at least two towels, and you will use the same. Yeah, leave the other one folded right under there for emergencies. This is, I will say, I love it when I go to a hotel room, and every day it's like stocked with all new towels. Yeah, it's great. It's great. Like magically appears there. I'm sure there's workers involved somewhere, but to my knowledge, It's like Hogwarts. Yeah, it's like Hogwarts. Yeah, they clean those towels and go back on the towels and turn themselves a little bit. I love the idea that you're just not entirely sure where the towels come from. You're like, I believe that there are maids here, but I don't know. I don't know for certain. All right, well, you're a disgusting shit pig, per usual. We've got a great episode today. We've got some hot ice to get into. We've got an amazing Charlie McAvoy, USA Men's gold medalist, and the unluckiest man to ever live, joins the show. A nice Bauer interview for you. It's going to be fantastic. We'll get into that. We'll get to the professors breaking down all the best picks for the weekend, some games, all of the good stuff. Let's jump into it as Sean thinks about what he loves about hotels. Yes, you're going to remember. Hot ice. We're starting off with a Nick Schmaltz deal. Nick Schmaltz, eight years, 64 million dollars to the Utah mammoth. I love it. I absolutely love it. Schmaltz is having a great year. I mean, the Utah mammoth are currently in a playoff spot. We're going for playoffs here. And we have Clayton Keller, gold medalist, star of that team. Dylan Gunther has been a machine since they got Sergacev. And he's healthy. He's been fantastic. But Schmaltz has just blown people away. Yes. Shout out the Schmaltz family. Shout out Jay Swish, our boy, legend. And Nicky over here has just got 59 points. He's absolutely buzzing. The for eight AAV with the cap going up. That's great because if he gives you that kind of production, we go fucking 24, we might score 30 goals this year. If you're getting 30 goals from an eight AAV guy, I'm thrilled. Correct. Completely agree. And what I love about this guy is he's 30 years old and seeing a 30 year old get an eight year deal. That was my only concern. Fires me up. It fires me up. But that's my only concern. It fires me up because I'm like fucking rights, buddy. We need more millennials getting eight year deals. He's still a millennial, right? I think so. Ooh. I'm claiming him. Okay. Let's take him. I'm taking him. Let's take him. But a 30 year old getting an eight year deal. And like you said, at that eight million mark, dude, in eight years when he's 38 and he's still going to be playing, he's still going to be fine, he'll probably be getting you 40, 50 points. That eight million is chump change in eight years. So this is a great deal. And what I love about it the most is Utah's here to fuck. Yes. You know, they were times in Arizona where people were like, fuck, are we going to leave Clayton Keller? Like, is he frustrated with the situation here in Arizona? But he's here. He's loving it. Schmaltz is here. Another star player. Yep. And he's like, yeah, I was about to be up and someone maybe could scoot. He's like, fuck no, I'm staying here. Yep. They're building something special. Logan Coolies extension starts next year. His eight year extension starts next year. They're like, dude, we're good. This team is a destination, dude. It's a destination. Sure is. We're going to go there. And their practice facilities elite. Yeah, we are going there soon. It's going to be great. So Utah fans, we'll see you soon. And I love everything about the deal. I love everything about the player. I love everything about the city. I love everything about the team. Go. I love everything about the jurors. Go. I love everything about Mormons. Well, okay. Maybe not everything. Not every. But I do love that they got a good sense of humor. Yep. Mormons will go and watch the book of Mormon and they'll go, that was fun. That's a good thing. You got to be able to laugh at yourself. Yep. Vibes in Utah through the roof. This Nick Schmaltz deal fucking rocks. Yep. What doesn't rock is a Marchand injury. You know what's interesting about this one? Shut him down. Shut him down. Keep him healthy. Protect our players. Protect the Panthers. The they are now. So what I find interesting, fuck Chris, what I find interesting is, hey, lock it up. I don't know. We're going to get to a second about this question in a second, but I just don't know what they are doing because the cats. Because we heard, we got video bark off practice and he looks fresh as lettuce. And I'm like, are you out or are you in? Because we heard at the Olympics that, you know, March is dealing with something and he is getting shut down right when we get back. And I was like, oh, wow. And I don't report it because it wasn't, it wasn't told to us in that way. So then we come back and he's just playing. And I was like, oh, wow. I guess that source was inaccurate. And then now they're like this, Marchy has been dealing with something bad since Olympics and he probably needs surgery. We're going to shut him down. And I'm like, what is going on? So he's fine because we know what it is. But I'm like, what is happening? Just either stop playing and miss playoffs or. I know. They're so interesting because they've won two in a row. They are 11 points out of a playoff spot with 18 games left. And it's weird to think that's 36 points that they could get. And you're firmly in point. And is anyone going to say, regardless of what's going on, if this team comes back into the playoffs and they activate Barkov as anyone being like, they can't win this year. I think you're in fact going, oh my God. So even with the fact that they're in seventh in the wild card race, I'm like, they're still above 500. Yeah. And they're obviously good. Gary is they kept Bob. And it's like, I want to dead them. I'm like, you're out, dude. You're out. But then they just win two in a row here. And I'm like, I don't know. But if Marcy's hurt, it's it's too much. Dude, I can't take it. I can't. It's it's well, I love it because I love them. But also this is it's whiplash like you wouldn't believe. You know what? Like if I'm a Panthers fan, I'm I'm yeah. Yeah. No idea. How about this? Yeah, I think it is. Root. If they get in, it is rude to us because we have so much love for the Panthers after the journeys we've been on with them now that it takes away from any rooting we can do to any other team in playoffs. And there's some new teams this year. True. So I'm kind of like, I was getting I was getting a horny about me maybe being able to hit my pathetic little bandwagon. Yeah, look at this. You'd strap in. Look at this. Yeah. I was going to sit that thing right on another bandwagon this year. And but before it gets in, then we go. I am already pot committed back to Lonnie. I'm pot committed to Buffalo. I'm pot committed to Detroit. Yeah. And here's the issue. I'm I'm I'm I'm soulfully committed to Boston. I got a lot going on Tampa, you know, like Florida. Watch out. Going back to the dozen, the penguins, the penguins. You were going to give me a break here. Yeah, we can't have you. And now I've got the Ides of March happening in Detroit again. And I can't handle this. We got Shafedaddy. I've got I'm an Islanders fan. Florida can't get it. There's only so much of me to get. We cannot have Florida. And I'm sorry. Next year. Next year. Next year. If he's hurt, shut him down. Speaking of things that need to get shut down, let's stop hitting Charlie McAvoy in the face. I this is this is flabbergasted. It is actually insane. And I also feel partially responsible. Me too. You will see later. Obviously, as we said at the top, we've got a great Charlie McAvoy interview this episode. Good friend, great person, not a great set of teeth right now. I don't know how many he has left legitimately, dude. He has less teeth in his mouth than more teeth. Yeah. And that shit hurts so bad. Everybody's like, oh, man, he got like true fans of the pod. No, I went through some significant dental stuff about a year and a half ago. It's awful. And it is it's actually it messes with your brain. It does. It does. Because it's just the pain is just so constant. And it's he's, you know, it's like easy to laugh at with the look. And obviously, the shit gets fixed. But like he has a family. He's got a wife. Like you got to get a. And also fix your face. Everyone talks about hockey tough. And he is hockey tough. He gets more teeth knocked out and then he comes back in and he wins the game. And like a fucking savage. Very, very Jack Hughes of him. But it doesn't mean it doesn't hurt. That adrenaline wears off, baby. I promise you that's throbbing. Yeah. He's got great dentists in there. Great, great team medics in there. That's sure. But eventually that pain comes for you. So he was in nasty gold, by the way. Oh, it's disgusting. Is it nice defense been doing that shit? Yeah. Jumping in the rush three on three. He's having one of the best years of his career. I don't. Like. That this is happening. And he told, I think he says in the interview, I can't remember if this was on or off camera, but the rink in Milan was so hot. Yeah. That bubble was. Yeah, I was like, I was like, dude, put your bubble back on. And he was like, it's so foggy. It was crazy. It was crazy there. But he even he said it's not that bad in HL. Yeah. So I'm like, and I'm not even though I want to, to be very clear, I want to do this, but I won't launch into my bubble take again. But for him, I'm like, dude, his jaw is too. It's it's made of oatmeal and maple syrup now. You just cannot. You simply cannot afford another accident. So I'm like, here's the thing. Another shout out to J Swiss and Robbie. He's got the best chin in the lead. Yeah, dude. Chin tuck, baby. Chin is tucked and the chin is made of iron. Yeah. It's made of adamantium. Yeah. Because it gets hit every game. But I'm also like, please protect. We've got to lock it down. I need I need Chucky to put the the bubble back on. Is there is there like, you know, the dream people often have that recurring dream where you lose your teeth. He is living that nightmare. I he goes into work every day and loses more teeth. Yeah. Is the I have a question. OK. The fog because the bubble only has like a low level of ventilation ventilation. And I think if that was just higher ventilation, like if it went up to like a normal visor height, it wouldn't fog at all. And that's possible. And I think the complaint would be like, well, now I'm looking through a cage. Yes. Too much. Now you just have a clear cage. But I'm like, I think it would just look so dumb. Yeah. But it would kind of look like an NFL helmet. That's what always been my confusion. Everybody's like, it would just look like an NFL. Well, some guys do that. They just wear the chin thing. Yeah. I mean, he should do that. I kind of agree. I'm like, put the chin thing on the chin bubble on. Yeah. Because like, tuck the chin, protect the chin. Yeah. Tuck it, dude, because you have you have no teeth. I don't even know what happens to him, dude. He is going to get the fucking hottest set of veneers that has ever existed. Yeah. But at this rate, like when he retired, yeah, when he retires, it's fine. But like now you can't, you know, like the reason for this is like, I'm so excited. But for him this summer, we need to do a video series with him this summer of the new teeth reveal. Yeah. Like we'll do a whole, yeah, we'll do a whole episode where we just go down, we go get him set up, we'll get him some teeth and it'll be an amazing reveal. Outrageous. But then after that, we need to insure his teeth for $50 million. Yeah. He should, we should play with like a bane thing on. That would be kind of sick. You know, like literally. It's, it's, I've never seen anything like the luck he is having. It's fucking crazy, dude. Cause it's not like he is a, there's nothing about his game that's exposing his teeth. It's just a luck. It's all. And it's the worst kind of luck. We love you, Charlie. God. Let's protect the gybs for the love of God. Nate got ejected. Nate got ejected. And I have a question. I, there's been a few times in the past year, playoffs for sure, one of them was Stolars on Bennett. Uh huh. Or I should say Bennett on Stolars. One was, I forget who else, maybe you remember, but it was a super similar play. Oh, I thought it may be who was Dars, but there was a super similar play. And basically it's like these goalies are getting concussed when it appears to me that someone literally grazes their hand on the way by. And I'm like, what dude? We need guardian caps for goalies. Oh, but, but I'm kind of like the Bennett one, for example. I'm like, no, the Sam Reiner shot off his dome piece, concussed him three minutes ago. I agree. You know. Nate got ejected and for, for crashing the net on a backdoor pass and Connery Grimm comes flying over. I forget what it was. Oh, it's a nurse. Nurses right there, stick and skates. Everyone's doing great, by the way. It's good D, good offense. And then Ingram gets hit and Nate gets a penalty and then it's reviewed and he's tossed. And I have been the biggest protector of goalies. I was about to say you did this. Dare I say. Protect our players. Because I'm like, I don't so know what's happening yet. And I, I obviously do think we should protect our goalies because we need them. We need our goalies. But I am like, man, that's an ejection. How to still understand how these guys are getting so hurt. I'm not calling them liars. I'm not. I believe you. Never. But I'm saying, how are you possibly getting this hurt? How is that possibly an ejection when Nate is crashing the net backdoor trying to score? I think we need to source Sway and LT. Yeah. And this could call. And be like, do your helmets do nothing? Yeah. Because it is, it is strange how often these, these what appear to be kind of love taps to the dome, shake these guys up so much. It's nuts. And I just don't think we need to be ejecting Nate for that call. But hey, buddy, you did this. Protect our goalies. Yep. No one is above the protection of goal. You can't even breathe on him. You can't even breathe on him now. You again, you wanted this and you got it. I say, stop protecting them. No, that's the wild way. Careful. We can't live in that world. No, be careful. Well, in this game, playing the Oilers, we had Elliot Friedman on 32 Thoughts said, said there's a lot of talk out there about Jari getting into it at practice with some of his teammates. I just wanted to ask, but here's the question. We talked about their deadline and we were like, this isn't good, blah, blah, blah. But there are a lot of people who came to the defense of the Dickinson and Murphy ads with the PK stuff. And then that's great. 50% retained too. That's also great. They just beat the best team in the league. Sure did. And a lot of us little goal from Mac Jesus. Yeah. Oh, that was disgusting. And you know what? I made sure to mention Leon was not getting enough love for that play because the place he had were taking that puck off the skate and then getting it to his tape and then just to give him the perfect dish. That was just beautiful. The Oilers fans, I feel for the first time this year, we're getting real chirpy last night and I love to see it. Okay. I love to see the fight. I see the fight from him. It's been an interesting year. Connor is having one of the better years. Leon's just doing his thing as always and Bush having one of his better years. But I feel like vibes in Oil Land have been a little bit just like, oh God, what's going on? And last night, beating the abs in Colorado, we saw some nice chirpy Oilers fandom. And I got to say, and I'm preaching to the choir here, obviously, the Vegas has been a disappointment, I think, based on their expectations. They're also doing that thing where they're doing like, well, we suck for like a month, which they always do, so whatever. And Stones, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, but Vegas has been a bit of a disappointment. And the Ducks, which has been amazing, aren't a lock to just race to the finish. They could have a hiccup. Definitely. The Ducks, the Oilers, are, you know, have the best gold if in the Pacific and they are very, there's a very good chance or there's a very reasonable chance that they win the Pacific. So you know what I find very interesting? The Pacific, we've got the Ducks in first place, quack, quack, quack, 75 points. And their last 10, they're eight and two. Yeah. They've been great. In second and third with both 72 points, we have the Oilers who are four and six in their last 10 and the Knights who are four and six in their last 10. Yeah. Again, 72 points in the Pacific behind those teams is Seattle with 67, Los Angeles with 67 and San Jose with 66. Those teams are four and six, three, six and one and three, five and two in their last 10. If those three idiots had had a good last 10, the Pacific would be fucking complete. The Pacific is awful. And like I look at Seattle, Los Angeles and San Jose and I'm like those two teams that were ahead of you gave you the exact opportunity you needed. And you've shit the bed. Like especially the Kings who are just desperate in this last season with Kopey to get in. I'm like, how have you losing these games? These two teams ahead of you who are only five points ahead of you, you have just completely fucked this up this opportunity because like our Vegas and Edmonton in the last 18 here are going to go four and six again in their next 10 and eight. Probably not. Yeah. So it was like this was your chance to flip the script and then stay strong for the rest of the season and you blew it. Yep. So it's crazy. And what I was going to say is the Oilers could very likely win. Could you imagine if Edmonton and Vegas missed playoffs? Oh my God. Like if LA, San Jose and Seattle had just surged and they took the second, third and wildcard spot, that would have been mayhem. But it's not going to happen. The Oilers probably going to win the Pacific. And I just wonder. Yeah, they probably are. Remember last year there was someone was yelling or maybe it was Connor. Someone was yelling at practice. They were like, God, this is whatever. And then this year it's like Tristan Jar or yelling at practice. And I'm just like, man, there's never peace. And they're never just like. I don't think there should be. We're a good team. I like it. This is not a peaceful team. Yeah. This this is they need this adversity towards the end of the season and look at what it's done. They're taking them right to the top of the time. This is script. They're sticking to the script. But it would be fucking so electric for the Ducks if they could hold on to this first place and not see Vegas or Edmonton and San Juan. They frankly. I mean, they could beat those teams, but they need to because they. You need to keep first. And you need to keep first. Keep doing what you're doing. Okay. You want to eliminate some teams for playoffs before we get to the ad break and then jump into the Charlie McEvoy interview. So let's do that right now. And this this there will be consequences here, Dan. So don't be overzealous. Okay. I literally want you to know who is eliminated from the playoffs. I'm going to be very casual. Okay. In the East, eliminate teams, please. I will eliminate. The New York Rangers. Yep. I will eliminate. Oh, I was afraid you were going to say that's it. The Toronto Maple Leafs. The Leafs are out. The Leafs are out of playoffs. Dude, somebody asked Willie yesterday, a reporter was like, do you think missing playoffs is a one-off thing or is this a trend? And he was like, well, I hope one off. And I was like, are you out? Like, did you? Are you? Are we all? Are we talking about this right now? I think. That's fair. I think. I was just such a crazy out of him like it's a zero off. We're making playoffs. I'm eliminating the New Jersey Devils. Wow. And I am eliminating the Philadelphia Flyers. Really? Yeah. Damn. Specifically because I believe Carolina Pitt and the Islanders are good. Okay. It's going to take a lot for anyone to replace them. Columbus could do it. Yeah. Columbus is in the mix. And I don't see caps, frankly. I don't see Columbus slowing down and the caps I could see like figuring out a search here. So I'm going to eliminate all them. I will not eliminate Florida yet. Okay. I will not eliminate Florida ever. Correct. Yeah. Until they're literally back. I learned my limits. Okay. In the West. In the West, I shall eliminate the Vancouver Pinox. They are literally almost eliminated. Yeah. I will eliminate the Calgary Flames. I will eliminate the Chicago Blackhawks. I will eliminate the St. Louis Blues. That's it, dude. That's it. That's it. And I'm, do we, yeah, the Blues are eliminated. I can't eliminate the Jets. I almost, I almost left the Blues. I almost left the Blues. So long as Helly lives, they have a chance. The Blues' goal is just so bad that I don't know how they can do it. Yeah. Okay. All right. So great seasons, Canucks, Flames, Hawks, Blues, Rags, Leafs, Devils, Flyers, Men, Leafs eliminated. That's fucking crazy. They are out, but that is crazy, dude. It's so crazy. Jesus Christ. In the Devils, what are you doing? I know. The Devils. What are you doing? Oh, it sucks so much. Toronto, though, I will say again, this is good for you. Yep. This is going to. Get your rest. This is going to enact real. I assure you, they don't need to get your rest. They do not need rest, but I believe that this is going to instigate real change, good change, positive change. This is good for them. Okay. 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Now it's time to kick it to an amazing Bauer hockey interview with Charlie McAvoy. Scoop this post Olympics going to be absolutely fantastic. Oh, what a guy. One of the best. One of the best. One of the great empty netters friends in the game. Enjoy. All right. Well, back on the empty netters podcast, the man we probably owe all of our success to, to be perfectly honest. I'm not even sure if he knows. Yes, true. And a man with truly an iron jaw, Charlie McAvoy, gold medalist on the pod again. How are you buddy? Good man. It's good to see you guys. I know. Hey, I was grassroots wasn't I? When I came and saw you guys in the office that, that one year. Dude, you look at it. Look at you guys now. You truly were. And then look at us now, dude. Look at us in winter house celebrating a gold medal together. Who could have thunk it? Who would have thought? Who would have thought? Before we get into the gold, because that's all we want to talk to you about right now. I need to know last night playing the spreads when that puck jumped up and hit you in the face again. What was what was going through your head? Honestly, right away, I was like, I actually can't believe this. Like I was so defeated. I'm retiring. And I felt what went through your head. Yeah. Yeah. I felt something in my like in my in my mouth right away. Like I don't know if I end up getting some snow or something in there, but like I thought I thought I'd chip my tooth. I thought I was feeling like teeth fragments. Yeah. And I have nothing here anymore. Like it's all gone. I know. And then I got hit on the other side where I do have teeth left and I don't know if you can see it, but I like glue on it now because they got cut there. And I was just like, Larry, half the all the guys on our team came up to me and they're like, man, I can't. I'm so sorry. And then I had guys on the spreads come up to me too. And like, dude, your face is a puck magnet. Like I'm so I can't believe that happened to you. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, good God. It's like it's actually unbelievable to witness. And when you took your bubble off in Milan, I could not believe my eyes. I was like, what are you doing? Like you're asking for trouble. It was insane. I know. I had like our team doctor, this guy, Dr. Peacock in Boston, who's awesome. He's been like quarterbacking my whole thing. He was very like reserved with the timeline. And I was like, so at two months, I remember we were out in Canada on like our West Coast Canada swing. And this was like right after Christmas. And I was like, hey, can I take this thing off now? And he was like, not a chance. Like you got to keep it on like at least like, okay, so we're going back and forth on the on the timeline. And, you know, he's telling me what percentage I'm probably healed and all this. And he like, it's like three months, three months, I think I feel comfortable with. And then like sure enough, like that landed February 17th, we're over in Milan. And I was like, doc, like, you know, I didn't forget about that February 17th. Like you think I'm good to shed this thing? And he was like, yeah, I feel comfortable. I guess with that. Yeah. I took that thing off as fast as I could. It was, it was so nice to have it off. Like that rink in Milan, like you guys know, it was so hot. I mean, it was so hot in there too. And like in these NHL ranks, like pretty much all of them, like I had no problem. Like with the bubble, like fogging, like every, like on the, on the ice level, they do a really good job of keeping it cold. So I had no problem with that. But then over in Milan, like right away, I was fogging up. Like I felt like I couldn't breathe in it. It was getting so hot. So like as soon as I could get it off, I was night and day. I mean, I don't blame you dude, but it's, it's truly been the journey of your jaw and teeth this year has been a story in itself. It's my mom and dad were the first people that text me like last night. Like, can you put the bubble on for the rest of the season? Maybe just the rest of your life. I was like, oh my God, guys, I know I couldn't believe it. Thank God it was just nothing. It was just a little, you know, whatever deflected pocket was fine. It wasn't a 95 mile an hour slap one timer on a five on three. Well, dude, we're like two weeks removed now almost. And are you, are you still just riding the high? I mean, one of the great childhood dreams accomplished. You have a gold medal. How do you feel? Dude, it's insane. It still doesn't really feel real, honestly. Like we've had so many people coming like we're like rejoining life again here and we're getting back on our schedule and everything. And we had some, some friends of ours, they came over the house today. And it's still like I'm bringing the bringing the gold medal downstairs. Everybody wants to see it. They want to take a picture with it. So like, yeah, it's still kind of in like the honeymoon phase of it. You know, so I've had it out and about and like, yeah, not a day has gone by where I'm not taking that thing out and looking at it and or sending it to somebody or letting somebody try it on. Like it's just it's kept it very, very fresh. That's so sick, dude. Bro, would you guys, I mean, obviously you play the team in front of you, but were you guys at all like was there chatter in the locker when you found that it was going to be sweet in in the fucking quarter finals? Like, were you like, this is bullshit. Well, what do people think about that? Yeah, we had a man, we talked about it like. I don't know. The way I had it in my mind and I think and I think it was kind of like split. Like, you know, some guys were like, I can't believe that this happened. Like, why are we playing against them? We should be playing against somebody else. Like, you know, it should be like easiest, you know, then like intermediate and then the hardest, like if you thought of it from a quarter semifinal. And like we were getting a team that like, I said this to everybody, like that team could have won that tournament. I really believe that. Definitely like if Sweden gets by us, like I think they're playing in the finals and then anything can happen. So like, yeah, they had everything they needed and we happen to have them in the quarter final, but like for mindset wise, I was like, and fuck, like you're going to have to play him at some point. Like if you want to win the whole thing, like you're going to have to go through Sweden, you're going to have to go through Canada, you're going to have to go through Finland, like whoever it is that's left standing, like you have to go through them to win. So I was just like, you know, instead of thinking like, man, they played with their food and their group stage and now we have to play him in the quarter final. Like it was like, fuck it. Like we're going to play him at some point. We might as well just play it now. And then and then the other part of that was like, you know, in hindsight, after I was like, I feel like we just played a gold medal game. It just happened to be in the quarter finals. We played our best game of the tournament at that point, like we shut them out for 59 minutes, like they score. Then it was like resilience on the bench. Like we still almost won it in regulation. We had a couple of good looks there, like right away, right back at it. And then and then huggy takes over and overtime and wins it. And after that game, it was like, OK, like, you know, like we're ready for whatever comes our way now. We know we can do it. Like we're battle tested now. That was how I think we all felt in the room after that. Dude, I love that mindset. And there was a big part of us that was like, you know, because three good teams that you play in the prelims, but you didn't really have a big, big test where you're kind of up against it with adversity. There wasn't like a marquee game that didn't happen. We didn't have that. Exactly. So so to have that before the final and even before the semi was kind of awesome. I think I know the answer to this, but obviously you got Hamp and Elias on that team. You guys obviously don't speak before that game, correct? No, no. I was running into a lot of guys. Like I kept seeing I kept seeing Corpy and Yoki the most. The two guys on Finland. Oh, yeah, I did see Elias like a bunch of times, you know, and said hello to him, but I didn't run into them before before that game at any point, you know, which is almost like it's kind of hard. Like you saw everybody in the village. It was a small village, like, but I didn't see them before that one just during their like group stage. I'd run into them. But yeah, I mean, even if you did see him like maybe a wink, but like you're not going to talk like, you know, it's everybody knows what's going on. Like, dude, this is I mean, the same way that like we talked about it, like, you know, like I achieved my my childhood dream. Like, dude, this is their dream, too. This was everybody that stepped foot on that ice. This was their dream. I know one was going to be like and everybody always loves to ask, like, are you guys friends? And you do this like, yeah, we're friends. We play on the brooms together. But like this is my fucking dream, man. Like and they're on the other side of it. And they'll tell you the same thing, like, you know, and then after it was like, you know, if we didn't win, you know, they were like, hey, go win it all. And I would have said the same thing to them. Like if Sweden clipped us there, I would have been like, you guys better win this. You better win this shit. Like because if someone's going to win it, I at least wanted it to be like, you know, one of my one of my teammates. But you know, it just ended up that happened to be us. Yeah. Yeah. Chuck, you dude, you have played in some very significant Stanley cup playoff games. What were the nerves like going into that Canada game in comparison? Like, you know, kind of where does that rank on how you were, how the butterflies were hitting going into that game? Man, I kind of like, I don't know if this was like a fake until you make it type thing. But like we we beat Slovakia, right? So we're in the dining hall after the game. We play every game at nine o'clock. So it was like the same rinse repeat every time. Like we'd be back in the dining hall. We'd get back to the village by like one. We all just hot stove in the cafeteria to like two. Everybody was eating or eating pizza and pasta and we were just hanging out in there and like, you know, guys would just pick off one by one item and up like, and, you know, we'd be there like till there was no one left. And we were having those those talks like I remember I was talking to Quinn and we were going back and forth like we knew we were playing Canada. They had the early game. We had the late game and it was like, you know, he's talking about like, you know, how we're going to match up and this and that. And like, you know, what do you think? What do you think? And I just told him like straight up. I'm like, dude, we're fucking ready for this. Like we are ready for this. There's no part of us that isn't ready for this. I was like from the moment that like I just kept thinking about all the work like every summer since I turned pro since before that, like I think every workout and every skate and everything you prepared your whole life like for this. There's nothing else you can do. And then I just kept telling them like these are the same guys that we play every single night, you know, like I know it's on a grander scheme of, you know, of a US Avers Canada. Like that is it doesn't get bigger than that. That is the top of the mountain. But I was like, this is still just a team built up of the same guys that we play. Like I was trying to just minimize everything. Like it's still hockey. It's still, you know, MacDavid, McCarr, McKinnon, but like we play them, you know, every night we play them during the year and we love that match up and you take pride in that match up. Like that's just what this game is. Like it's nothing more than that. And I think I was trying to kind of convince myself a little bit. So you stay on on earth and your feet on the ground. But like I think, you know, I think Quinn really like appreciated that. And then the more we talked about it, it was just like, dude, we're fucking ready for this. We're ready for this. Sleep good tonight. You're going to be fine. God, that just gave me chills. Dude, that is so awesome. And I do love the thing. It's like, you know, it's it's the self fulfilling prophecy speak in the positive sense of just like, yeah, we're fine. We're golden. That like that's how you convince your brain, dude. That that might have done the trick. This is incredible. Honestly, in a way, like I think it kind of helped me going into it. Like I didn't play it up to be more like, of course, the night before. Like I actually fell asleep really good. But then I woke up. You know, like soon as the sun was coming up, but I think I was up from like five to nine. I swear. Like. Yeah, the excitement kind of took over and I couldn't really sleep at that point. But yeah, I fell asleep like a baby. And I was just like, I just felt ready to go. Like at that point, like you kind of come to grips like, OK, I've done everything I can. Like the work's already done. It's already been put in like this team is already where it's meant to be. We've already had the game against Sweden. Like the camaraderie is fucking second to none. Like the group culture, everything is already like it's just check. Every box was checked. It's like now we just have to go win. Now, you know, didn't realize like now we just needed Haley to be Jim Craig for to go fully nuclear. Yeah, go full Jim Craig. But but at the end of the day, like in a game of hockey, like, you know, if you want to win, you need your goalie, like you need you need certain things to happen. And in a best of one, like anything can happen. And and like, yeah, that's it. And we got the bounces. We had the goal turning and you did it. At the end of the day, we made one more play. That's it. Dude, I want to talk about that camaraderie that you just mentioned because talking to all the boys, I think the first or second thing out of everyone's mouth is the group, the group, the group. And that's, you know, that's the best thing about hockey. It's the best thing about you guys. Auto auto. There he is. He's on the other side of the gate. Why? But there he is. You want to come in? I'm a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. So the camarader. But yeah, talking about the boys, like again, it's just like it's been so prevalent with what everyone has to say about it. I'm curious because the team's not that different from the four nation squad. So you already kind of got that taste of playing with these guys in this group. But then it's a little bit different, obviously. And then you get there. I loved in those early games like that first lot for a game, the funny goals getting called back, the Brock crossbar and all that nonsense. And you guys just were completely unfazed. How quick did you know how special this group was? And that this was like, absolutely gold is on the table here. And if like, if you knew already before even, you know, getting with this group in Milan, like, was it just something that was in your mind from the jump of like, yeah, this is a special group? Yeah, I feel like I honestly, I could talk about that the entire time. Like and I I brought this up to like a bunch of people, but just kind of going in depth on that, like. This team was built up of a group of guys. That I feel like like a like a core group of guys that have known each other forever. Yeah. So the 1997 birthday alone. And this was like our little like captaincy group, right? So, you know, me, Austin and Chucky, like that was our 97 birthday at the NTDP. We also had Wrenski. We had Hanna Finn. We had Keller got called up to that team. So he was a part of that. The 1996 is that we're in Ann Arbor when we were there was Larks and Ikes. So like, you know, now you already have like a group of like nine guys in there. And then, you know, then there was like the Michigan connection from a bunch of people, which was like all the guys that work out there in the summer, like they had a little, you know, group, but that group mixed with other groups. And then you have our Boston group and like that group mixed in with other groups. And then everybody else just like folded right in, like just seamless, like a like basically like a puzzle where just all the pieces fit. So when we got together, like the stories, like the reminiscing, all that was just there. Like, and honestly, the program is probably the biggest part of it, like because we all went to high school together. We all experienced so much funny stuff that like I will not get into. But just the random stories from that, like just the just the dumb shit that we all used to do. Like all of that. And then you get together and that's 10 years later. And it was like, man, this is our time. Like, I feel like we've been building this since we were 14, 15 in Ann Arbor. Like that was where like those seeds were kind of planted is what it felt like. And then, you know, the Kachuk brothers, like Brady was only two years younger than Brady went to BU. I know Brady since I played with Matthew on youth hockey tournaments when we were 10 years old. Like Big Wall used to get me like my favorite players Jersey side, like through my dad. Like, yeah, like that's how, you know, like all of these things, like we've known these people our whole lives, just felt like. So when you get that group together, like now we're at the stage of life where everyone's at each other's weddings, you know, like I met Matthews this summer, like he was at mine, like we're like at that point now, like, dude, this is love, man. Like this is guys that we grew up with together. We made it together. And then this was like this was just this experience that we got to all have. Like it just still doesn't feel like it's unbelievable, honestly. Like you couldn't script any of this stuff better. Really, like all our parents together up top there and you see them and they're like getting together again and and going over all that stuff. Like it was just like one big reunion that happened to be at the Olympics. And we happened to win the gold medal. Like it literally couldn't have been more perfect. The whole thing was just perfect. You honestly, you just hit the nail in the head for for for us from, you know, an outside to inside perspective. It's like I think you could see the success and the camaraderie of this group from, you know, years and years ago in World Juniors. Like you could see the chemistry there and then it makes sense that it translates here. But for us, man, I think the thing that we got hit with the hardest with the emotions was seeing the families at the celebration after interacting with each other. Because like you just said, like they all know each other. I was like, this is actually the coolest one big family moment I have ever seen in my entire life. It was unbelievable. I like I lose track of it. Like if I'm going back, like, you know, I don't even know. Like you could you could pick most sets of parents there and like there's something like that, you know, either I played in a World Championship with them. So my dad knows Mr. Larkin well from that. Like or there was, you know, something else along the way where we met or it was youth hockey where like the parents were sitting on the glass together. Like there were so many just tie ins, which I find is so unique with USA hockey. And like, you know, I don't know, that might be true for hockey, Canada or wherever else. But like there was just so much familiarity and like just like grassroots stuff. And then you get the families all there together. It was one big reunion. And then you see how much like, you know, the parents get along and how cool that was. Like you said at the Winter House, like that dynamic, it was like, man, it was hugs for everyone. Like even the ones you didn't know, like, you know, now you're forever. Like, you know, it was just amazing. It couldn't have been better. Chills. I just wanted to ask, dude, what did you see? What that? Hell, he got his paddle on that. Like in that moment, did you know what happened? Dude, I had a front row seat to it. Like that would have been the worst dash in my life. And it was crazy. Like when I when I watched it or like, I know what happened live. And then I went back and watched like McKinnon was on the like he was net. And then he started to scope out. So like Marner's rolling over and I'm kind of scoping out like to try and take away a one timer. And it's TAVES that just comes down the middle and ends up back door. And like I turn around and I just had the perfect view of that. And when he's like, I was like my heart dropped. Like it was a goal. And I'm like, man, this is how we're going to come back. Like, all right. And I couldn't believe like I couldn't actually fathom that it didn't go in the net. And then, you know, obviously in the moment, like you just keep playing like it was like we got back to the bench. OK, dodge it. OK. Like one minute later, you're back on the ice. And then it wasn't until after that you see that and like now I'm getting like, dude, you guys are sending me the shirts that are being made with with the blow up picture of that. Like I think they're in the mail. I'm going to be wearing that. Like that is the most iconic save. I think, you know, I can't think of a bigger one in all of hockey, just with the stakes, you know, what it meant to to everything what it ended up meaning to USA Hockey to to like, yeah, all of it. Legitimately, I think you're right. I think I mean, certainly USA Hockey, I think that is the biggest. It's it's without a doubt the biggest save in USA Hockey history, but like it might be in hockey period. That was insane. Yeah. But I do I do want to know your perspective of because like that one's the headlines, right? Like we saw Kelly on wingman with Brady and Matthew and like he's got the puck mark on the paddle. Yeah, that was sick. But dude, you you had a game saving save as well that is not getting talked about as much, which is fucking crazy. Do like walk me through that play. Like did you black out in that moment? Because like that was just a scramble. And next thing you know, you're on the crease and you're blocking a shot and then you're down on your knees and everyone's just like pushing it out. That was insane. Completely blacked out. Like in the moment, like you're not thinking like, oh my God, I just saved a goal. Like it happened like it felt like it happened in slow motion. Honestly, I like kind of like ended up back at the net. Like I was at a good spot and then like I see this thing coming. And if there was any more pace on that, like I don't know if I get to it in time. And then even going back and going back and seeing it after like how close it probably was to the line when I finally got like my body around it and like kind of gloved it out. Like it wasn't until after the game that I that I went back and was like, oh my God, like that was a goal. Like like you saved that. Like I had no idea of it in the time. Like I was so in the moment that like everything like hell he's safe. OK, next like that safe, like didn't realize exactly how big it was. Like even after it, like I punch it out and then it was like, I'm on my knees. OK, like they might get another shot here. Dude, Larks was down on all four sliding. Oh, yeah. Lock it. And then we got it out. Like there was a lot of that second, you know, like honestly, in the second and third period, like we weathered a lot. Like we say certainly, you know, they had it going for a good amount of that game. You know, but we just defended it like we were we trusted in our in our defense really, you know, and then obviously you get a hundred ounces in the rest of history. And then finally, before we let you go, because I know we got to get you to the network. But going into that over time, like you just said, like they they were wheeling and and you guys just weathered the storm, just trusted in the D trusted in Helly and made it made it work. Going into OT, were you guys calm? Were you like fired up? What were the vibes on the bench? Because I feel like I think it was who said it to us. I think maybe maybe Larks said it or no, was Matthew was like we knew the the six or so guys that were going to be going out and rotating. So we just kind of sat back and went, all right, let's take care of this. It's kind of funny. What was the energy? I mean, on that note alone, like so again, Sweden, I didn't play an overtime. I think we rotated. I think we rotated. Huggy Z and Sandy, I think, and they made it through like a full rotation before Quinn won it. And then so I like I didn't even retake my stick. Like I'm such a ball of nerves and I'm like, OK, like one of these guys needs to win it. Like one of these guys needs to win it. And then, you know, we get out there and like Quinnie was like Coach Quinn was like, hey, like, Huzi, you're starting these are Charlie are up next. I'm like, what? Let me tie my let me tie my skates a little tighter. I was I had in the back of my head, like I wasn't, you know, I was still like in it because I knew like if this thing goes 20 minutes, like we're going to roll more than three guys are going to get tired. So I was there, but I was I just wasn't expecting being like the second man over the boards. And when he was like whoever plays the best defense is going to win this. And that was what he said. And like I knew in my mind, like, you know, I played three on three in the first one over the boards for the Bruins, like, you know, I know I can make a play in that situation. But I kind of also realized, like, you know, it might be a D zone start. It might be something like, OK, like I know I'm just going to defend my ass off here and try and put like, you know, the next guy in a good situation. Like we had guys that are so good at that off and to side of it. But then you had to go over second. Like I was like, oh, fuck, here we go. Like I think I had a block and Celebrini came down and I blocked a Celebrini shot. Oh, yeah. And then it kind of like came to me in the neutral zone and like bobbled. And then and then that was it. That was my one shift. And we wanted the next shift. I switched for Z and then literally Z went out there and then that was it, man. That was it. But yeah, as far as nerves go, like, you know, Sully kept saying that he was like, we need to have like, you know, our American swagger, like all the confidence in the world here, like who's going to be a fucking hero? Like who's going to go down in history right now as the hero? Like it's someone in this room. It's someone in this room. And like that, I believed like, you know, I believed all of it. Like what are you going to do? Sit in that room and not think I'm like, do we have the horses? Someone's going to win this game right now. And then I started thinking in my head like, OK, hell, he's paddle safe. Like that thing hit me in front like McKinnon, Missile Wide Open Net. Like all of these things you start playing back and it was like, like I could convince myself like this is meant to happen today. Yes. This is meant to happen today. Like all of these things have have happened, like, you know, for a reason. Like this is our time. And then, you know, man, and then he's like, Jack, Jack scores that goal. Absolute bedlam. Like just euphoria. I don't remember a single moment of it. I wish I did like who I hugged first. Couldn't tell you what I was about to ask you. You hug first like that. I don't have a clue. I got into that pile. I threw my stuff like I cut the side of my face on Hanny's teeth because we both jumped at the same time. And it was just like headbutt. I'm bleeding. I'm getting blood all over everybody. I'm hugging like, yeah, it was. Man, it was just like the amount like that joy that you feel in that moment. Like you honestly can't even put into words. It's insane. You're just flowing. I mean, you're flowing around. Truly, truly all time, dude. I mean, we're we're, you know, we don't need to say it to you for the 50th time, but we're we're so pumped for you. So proud of you. It was unbelievable to see. And I can't wait to just watch you take the momentum into everything else, dude. And I know we got to get you to the network here, so we're going to let you go. But just do us a favor and just protect the moneymaker for the rest of the season for the love of God, because I just like I can't see you get hit in the grill one more time. It's insane. Oh my God. I'm already like planning all my my my plastic surgery this summer to try and make myself look pretty again. It's going to be it might it's going to be a few sittings to get this this mug. Yeah. Good again. Well, dude, we'll get you out to LA. We got some great. We'll get you taken care of. Send me to the guy that gives me like veneers and a full back tat all in one sitting. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, it's the LA two for one. That's what they call it. Yeah, the LA two for one. Oh, shit. All right, boys. Huge thank you to Charlie. Huge thank you to our friends at Bauer. Incredible interview. Incredible Olympic experience. 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No, but Professor Feeney is brilliant. Brilliant, brilliant scholar, brilliant scholar. The mega Palae recap, gentlemen, we haven't had one of these in quite some time because we had the Olympics. Yes, yes. Where the United Kingdom did not have a team, which was fucking rubbish. Absolutely. Mega Palae recap. Bruins, yes. Devils, yes. Sabres, yes. Pens, no. Bolts, yes. Mammoth, yes. Jets, yes. Kings, no. Canes, no. Isles, yes. Sends, yes. Eight and three. Eight. Eight and three. On the mega Palae, people were losing their minds. It felt like we were about to become the richest men in the entire island. I believe the pens, I think I should double check. I believe the pens was a sneaky loss. It was right there. I think it was. And if we had hit that, now then you're going Bruins, yes. Devils, yes. Sabres, yes. Pens, yes. Bolts, yes. Mammoth, yes. Jets, yes. Before, before. Genuinely, then you start thinking about the beach. Shitting their knickers, freaking out if we had potentially pulled the. Thinking about the beach. OK, then the life on the line, the life on the line Palae recap. Canes, no. Absolute shambles. Devils, yes. Sabres, yes. Isles, yes. The Canes were down for one in the third and came roaring back. And I got a text from Daniel and he said, Doctor, if this case, follow this off. We have done it again and then we don't have to gain. Oh, it would have been two in a row. Life on the road, two in a row, lost five or crushing, crushing loss. But three in one life in the line, ax or more together than they had been previously. This is quite true. Stay hot. Now the most consistent thing more than death and taxes is the Friday fade. We gave you cats over the wings and contemplated giving you the blues over the sharks as well. Well, guess what? But in the team, both of them hit the Friday fade is truly the most flawless bet in the world. And frankly, some of you are still not doing it. It's quite. And I'm not. It's quite baffling. I'm not sure what is happening. This Friday, Friday the 13th. There are two games. We only have two options and they are difficult. We have the Kings at the Islanders and we have the Oilers at the Blues. I shall stop there. There is the most obvious decision of the fade that has ever existed. Connor McDavey, the most electric and diabolically talented hockey player to grace this planet heads to the lowly St. Louis Blues, even at home, they stand zero chance. This sometimes the fade faces its greatest test. And this is one of those times this Friday might be just that situation. There is literally no godly chance that the St. Louis Blues, even in their own home, can defeat the Edmonton Oilers. Therefore, we shall fade and take and we take the blues to win for country and for St. Louis and they shall take down the David and dry cycle. And that is the Friday fade. Now, the Saturday Selly, we gave you Morgan Geeky. He did not score. He did not score. We he scored. Sometimes will we make we we make the Saturday Selly selection on a Wednesday. It is it is it is a it is Wednesday today. Correct. And sometimes we pick a player and then that Thursday they score. And I think to myself, fuck, because now they are. I it is actually diabolical. How often I know I check the scoring begins and I go, fuck, shit. And we took Sir Geeky and then Thursday, Sir Geeky. And I thought to myself, fuck, because now he must score again. He did not. It's not a truly frankly. It's not a fault. It's not a fault. This this Saturday, Daniel, I have selections. There was a plethora of selections home home. You know, we love a home, Selly. We do. I like one very much. There is a robo and Wyatt have been pumping in goals. They play at home versus the wings. Saturday, Bouldy and Corril are pumping in goals. They play at home versus the rags. Yeah, Saturday. And then goal, Caerfield, who's I think third in the league plays at home versus the Sharks. Now, for those who know, I have a bit where every single time Caerfield scores, I tweet, Caerfield is getting 40. Yes, sir. He's quite close. He's quite close. He has not scored in his last two games. He plays tonight. If you're recording on a Thursday around on a Wednesday. Yes, Daniel. Sorry, sorry, sorry. He plays tonight. We'll see if he scores. If he doesn't, I actually even like it more. Oh, I would love it. He's tied for his career high. Bouldy and Corril against the Rangers is quite interesting. I feel as though I picked Morgan Geeky last time. So therefore, Professor, I shall hand the reins to you. You may pick this Saturday, silly. Fuck. Pray to God they don't score on a Thursday. I believe. That Coke, Caerfield will get 40 this year. He's tied for his career high 37. I believe he will not score because he's on Thursday because when you tied for your career high, you get in your own head. You live up here in your head and you think, how can I ever pass this mark? How can I pass this course? It'll make sense. It'll take him some time. And then Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday. He faces a team who's travelled across the lands to Montreal, and they will not be able to keep the puck out of their net. Actually, maybe they will. I don't know yet. They might win. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. But I do. I am sure that Cole Caerfield will score. Goal, Caerfield, Saturday, silly. Book it. Booked. Sunday hat trick. Parley. Last Sunday, we gave you the ducklings under 6.5 in a cut a point because the Blues were going to trade away their entire team on Friday. They did not trade away their entire team and they won for nothing. That victory was unfair. Over the ducks was fucking absurd. It was preposterous. It was truly ridiculous. Ridiculous result. Who do you think you are? St. Louis, to win that fucking game for nothing. Don't look at me and tell me that Kairu and Thomas are gone and Binnington could be gone. Absolutely. And then ask me to wager and then you fuck me. Shambolic display. I hated it. It was terrible. Let's get back on track with the Sunday hat trick, Parley. The options, Daniel. Blues at Jets, Sharks at Sends, Ducks at Habs, Leafs at Wild, Preds at Oilers, Cats at Crack. Oh, dear me, dear me, dear me. You seem to like the Diddy Bowl. I thought it might be quite funny to do the Diddy Bowl, which is the Predators and the Oilers. Dear me. The Diddy Bowl has become quite a popular game in the NHL. The Over is five and a half that we are living with. I like the Over in this matchup. Normally I'm in Underman, but the Over five and a half. The Predators have been playing nice hockey, I believe. The Oilers are finding their stride. They're infighting. They want to win the game. They enjoy friction. Yes. Which is ironic, given that they are Oilers. The Oilers. But things are turning. McDavid is streaking. We will take the Oilers money line. We will take the Over five and a half, and we will take a McDavid point. That is your Sunday Hattrick Parley Oilers. Over five and a half McDavid point. And the Diddy Bowl shall be quite oily. And oily. Now, Professor Feeney, get your picks ready. We shall head into the Mega Parley. We will start with the Ducks at Sends with you, Professor Christopher. Starting with me. Ducks at Sends, Mega Parley, 14 games. I shall take, both have been quite great. I shall take the ducklings. Brilliant. Professor Feeney, Bruins at Caps. I'll be taking the Bruins. Yes, Feeney. Yes, Feeney. He hasn't missed a beat, Daniel. He has not missed a beat. Daniel, Avs at Jets. Stay on the away train. I think the Avs are feeling the heat from Dallas and Minnesota. It will be the Avs. They need it. Professor, rags at Wilde, the Wilde comfortably. Professor Feeney, Leafs at Sabres. I don't really like either. Ah, yes. That feels... Professor, the... Well, Daniel, you shall not influence your pick. Daniel, he has it. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll go Leafs. Yes, I love that pick, to be honest with you. Some things that go up must come down eventually. Oh, it's terrible for me. Daniel, Sharks at Habs. Both teams need a win. They're in a playoff hunt. Ugh. Sharks. Yes, Daniel. Christopher, Canes at Bolts. I'll take the Bolts. They need a win. They need a win. Professor Feeney, Kings at Devils. Uh, Devils. Devils. Yes, yes. Daniel, Flames at Isles. We love fun. We will take the Isles, and it's not even a question. Christopher, Jackets at Flyers. Oh, the Jackets have been good. I will go the Jackets there. I almost went the home team because they needed more, but the Jackets have been quite good. Feeney, Wings at Stars. Stars. Stars. Wonderful game there. Wonderful game on a Saturday. Daniel, Pens at Mammoth. Ah, feels crazy to pick against the Pens. Yes, it does. Given their current form, but the Mammoth at home, I like it a lot. I will take the Mammoth. Mammoth. Now, I'm actually going to just change places with Feeney. I'm going to take Hawks at Nights, and I will actually go, Vegas has been terrible, but maybe they win it. I will go Nights. Feeney, Sponk at Canucks for an old time's sake. Sponk. Sponk, Feeney. Sponk from Feeney. Incredible. Well done, well done. The Mega Parley live on a beach. Ducks, Bruins, Avs. Wild, Leafs, Sharks, Boats, Devils, Isles, Jackets, Stars, Mammoth. Sponk, Nights. Brilliant. Brilliant. Now, Life on the Line, Parley. Parley, four games, four teams to pick to see if we can get some magic going. It's real money. Professor Christopher, you were the only one who missed last week. Therefore, I believe you need to start. I did start last week, and I'm the only one that missed. So perhaps you start because, I don't know, but I started and lost. Fine. I shall start. Okay. Here is our first game. I feel bad because this goes against something that Professor Feeney. That's all right. Life on the Line. No, it does not. No, it does not. My first game for the Saturday Tilts. Here we go. They did beat the Leafs, but those guys are on schnief. Toronto might never win another game. The Rags said no BS. They should have said do less because not playing at all would be just the same. Billy G stands for gold. And if I may be so bold, this team is as good as Cherry Garcia. Boldy, Krill and Huggy, this team gives me a chubby. And the Rangers team gives me diarrhea. Wild Money Line. The Leafs did. I don't know when the last time any of you have had Cherry Garcia is, but it's a delicious Ben and Jerry's ice cream. It's fantastic. I actually, Professor, I had a tough time selecting my guess in this one. Did you? Yes. I stuck between a few. I'm going to go with the two. I'm deciding in the moment. I'm deciding right here in front of you. Well, I'm pretty sure. Fantastic. In front of you very eyes. I'm deciding who we are going with. Leg number two. Next leg. Next leg. Only one hard out of three on this New York session. Kings wins. They surely do need some. Too hard out of three would have been out of the question for who likes a devil's threesome. Kings. Kings Money Line. No. Kings Money Line. Kings Money Line Leg No. All right. Our third leg. They say, knock if you buck. But this team fucking sucks. Get McKenna or sell the whole club. Sponks lost two in a row. They need the mojo to flow. If they want playoffs, they need a good rub. Can you go very far without a big star? Seattle knows it's a team effort in hockey. So everyone pile in. Teamwork gets the win. Let's finish with a nice boo cocky. Spunk Money Line. We're getting way too sexual with these guys. This is not going to help. Mine is not going to help. Mine is not going to help. Final leg gentlemen. Final leg for message. Helly and Nate have matched up before. And there was a play that should have been fatal. If the Jets give him another wide open backdoor, he's not going to pass up on a... Too far. We've gone too far. There's no defense for this man. There's nothing more to say other than, that has been your lecture with the professors. Those are your picks. Trust what you will. Avoid what you must. Brilliant stuff. Go see a doctor. At the top of this episode, we mentioned the buff daddy's haircut. It looks fantastic. Thank you. I have a theory that... I have had long hair many times in my life. That's not my theory. That's a fact. I loved my long hair. I enjoy my long hair. Chris is obviously a big long hair guy. Sean, you just had long hair. I think a lot of men look great with long hair. I believe passionately that 98% of men, when they have long hair and then cut it, everyone goes, oh my God, you look incredible. That's not to say that they didn't look great with the long hair. But whenever a fella goes from the long hair vibe and then gets a nice clean cut, people always go, wow, you look great. I have a couple questions. Were you a long... Was that the first time you ever had long hair? No, no. So I had... The longest my hair has ever been, it's been past my shoulders before when I was a teenager. And it was... Basically what happened was, is that I thought, oh, you know, it'd be really cool if I grew my hair right long. I was in my teen years. And it didn't really grow down as much as it just continuously grew out. Until the weight overtook it and it all kind of flopped down at once. And then I changed schools and the new school was like, you need to cut your hair. And I kind of... Wait, they said it was a need to. It was a need to. It was like a... It was an all-boys school and it had to be above the collar. It was like the... Like a regular Yankee's vibe. Yeah, interesting. But I was kind of relieved because I was so sick of the hair, but everyone had turned the hair into such a part of my identity. I was kind of like, I don't want to... I don't want to disappoint my fans. Did you only go to that school for this? If I transfer, they'll make me and then I'll have my fall. That would have been a good strategy. I went to the school because I needed to get different subjects for my leaving cert. But the... Yeah, it's like people... It got to the stage that people were like stopping me. Like strangers were stopping me in the street to take photos with me. Are you serious? It happened more than one occasion. You were not? It was in Dublin, yeah. Why? Because no one has long hair in Dublin? Well, I looked like a toilet brush. It was kind of really, really skinny and then a big mop of hair on the top of it. So it kind of... I did kind of give sideshow bob vibes. So I understand why. I was like a short palm tree walking. When your hair gets that long and it is curly like yours, I do think it's a bit of a statement and some people are like, I got to look at this. This is amazing. It was a full on like, like Afro. Yeah. But the... But yeah, no, like I... The reason why my hair grew out to the length that it did this time was twofold. Number one, I had been moving and doing a job and everything else was a lot. So I didn't really have the time. And number two, in this economy, I can only really afford to get my hair cut like two times a year. So I'm trying to just save money rather than just regularly getting your hair cut like every month. You know, it's like at the end of the day, it costs whether they cut six inches off or they cut a centimeter off. Yeah. The difference costs the same thing. This... Okay, this brings me to my two most important questions about this situation. I get like one haircut a year and because I like... I... Kind of everything you said, I like having long hair or I guess everything you both said. I like having long hair so it feels awesome when it gets annoying, when it hits the annoying point and you're like, boom, see you later. And it was an added perk that I was like, oh nice, I just have this one expense. But I will say, ignoring expense, unless you are actively growing your hair, unless you're trying to have your hair long, you probably should be getting your hair cut. I can't believe I'm hearing this from you. You probably should be getting your hair cut. Every month is the longest, I think. Like, I know dudes, I know guys I used to work with who are senior, senior execs, making a ton of money, but get their hair cut every week because they were like, this is the hair length that I want and just go touch it up. So senior execs, they can afford to get cut every week. Yes, yes, ignoring money. So if you're... if you actually have a hair length you like, I understand the theory of, I'm just gonna give my haircut all the fucking time. You're blowing my hair back with this take right now because coming from you... Yeah, I don't like that. That's what I'm saying. So it's not for me, but for you. I think it is... there are a couple of factors. Let's... I understand the money element, but at the same time, I'm kind of like, I have a shout out, Nikki the barber, shout out Svelte Barber Shop in Manhattan Beach. That is where everyone in LA should go. It's the best barber shop and Nikki is the best barber in the world. And for a men's haircut, it's $50. And I tip Nikki, 10 bucks, and it's $60. $60 a month is not an expense. That is a... That's one meal. That's a... That's a nice meal. But... It's a nice meal. Sean, calm down. It's a nice meal. Okay? That's one night at the bar. Oh my God. That's one banana. You know? It's a banana, Michael. What could it possibly cost? We were joking earlier about Chris, like, getting a new towel every day in Washington. We're like, that'd be so expensive. 365 towels a year. You could actually do that. Every meal is 60 bucks. Every meal is 60 bucks. Don't forget that I have $3,000 Venmo expenses that I just wear. Yeah, right. I'm... You're investing in yourself. I'm a big... Look at the way I dress. You got to invest in yourself. A haircut is a nice thing. It boosts your mood. It makes you feel good. I think $60 is totally reasonable. And my point is, I get... I get people want variety. You want to spice it up. You want to try something new. But it's also... It's hard. Growing your hair takes a while. Oh yeah. So it's like, there are a lot of guys I know who are like, I want to try something different. And I'm like, well, if you really want to try something different, you need to grow your hair for at least six months then. Yeah. So you can then have the clay to mold something out of. But if you're not doing that and you have the hairstyle that you like, you should get a haircut every month. You've gotten it too. Because it's like, here's the deal, man. I always laugh at people who go, yeah, I love the length of my... I get my hair cut and then after about like three, four weeks, it's at the length that I really like. And I'm always like, oh, they cut it too short. I know tons of dudes who do that. In fairness, when you get a fresh cut, sometimes it does look like the little Lego man head piece. Yeah, it doesn't sit right. It doesn't sit right. And it needs to kind of grow a little bit. I believe you need two days. Two days? I need two days after the cut. Like your hair is shocked. Yeah. I say, what the fuck? And then it takes two days to settle into what it is. But if you've got a good barber and if you've got a good stylist and then you've got a length that you like, they can do it. I mean, I leave Nikki and I walk out of the barber shop and I'm like, I love what is happening. Yep. Because Nikki knows how to cut my hair. And I do not understand that people go, yeah, I get it cut like extra short. And then in like three weeks, it's right where I like it. And I'm like, you should just get it cut there. Yeah. Get it cut to that length. And I say that to you all the time. Because you get your hair cut so, or you used to get your hair cut so short. Yeah, I still do. And then you would grow it out for six months or longer. And it gets so long that it looks like a rat's nest. And I'm like, just cut it to the three month mark, where it's like in the middle. I like the short. It's fun for a little while. Well, then you should. I'm an outlier case. Yeah. I'm not going to say anything. I'm just like, You're an absolute fucking nightmare. And then it's more fun. And then it's even more fun. I think hair cuts cost too much. I agree. I agree. They do cost too much. I mean, some people are saying 60 a month is absolutely nothing. And they wipe their ass with $100 bills. But I agree that hair cuts cost too much. Because I am a poor boy. And I choose between eating or drinking per day. Yes. Yes. You're going to choose eating. Yeah. Oh no, not on Saturday. I agree completely. Hair cuts should either cost less and then we still tip or we remove tipping from hair cuts. Or do more cost effective. I shave my hair entirely and get like a toupee. Yeah. And just like shave it myself like every day. I use it. And then cost of toupee is outweighed by. Yup. How much money I used to cut my own hair and my teammates hair in college. Because it was the buzz though. You were doing. Well, no, I was doing stuff. Like I wasn't using shears really. But like I was, it wasn't buzz cuts. Like I was giving people. Yeah. You had all the layers. It was cool. But it was mostly, I mean it was just cost efficient. How did you learn to do that? Honestly, I think I, because I like frequent hair cuts and I had no money in high school and prep school, I shout out Ethan Hirshberg. He was like a buzz cut guy. And one day he in prep school came up to me with his clippers and was like, can you give me a buzz cut? And I was like, no, I have no idea how to do it. And he was like, I'll walk you through it. It's not hard. So I started cutting Ethan's hair for him. And then I was like, oh, this isn't that hard. And then I started getting fed up with when my hair would get longer. And I was like, I don't have time to go to the barber or money to go to the barber. And I was like, you know what, I'm going to try it. And it was just trial and error. And then I eventually was like, I think I got a handle on this. And dude, I think that, and I don't want our barbers to starve either. Right. Like I don't know the math on how they stay afloat. But I'm like, protect your barbers. I don't think that there's there's definitely a level of you are bad at cutting hair. You need to pass that. But I think most barbers that are working are above that bar. I agree. I will say, though, when you find a good barber, like Nikki, it is the greatest feeling in the world going in and knowing they know exactly what you want. They know how to cut it. You have to deal with finding people who know how to cut curly hair, which is totally a thing. Yep. And when you find that, you fight for it. You fight for it. But you have short haircuts, dude, because I don't know what they, I don't know where you went. Where'd you get your haircut? Right across the street. And I kind of, they were nice. It was a good haircut, but it was so expensive. How much? I almost fainted. It was $90. Yeah. And normally the long haircuts, like when I get my haircut, they're like, no, your hair does not get so long that Nikki charges you more than a men's haircut. No. They should charge per inch. You don't have long hair. They're talking like well past your shoulders is when it gets to long haircut length. You got to start cutting your hair more frequently, pal. Yeah. I bet if you went and got it cut right now, which you should, because it's getting too long, you're getting too long. Yep. You should go get it cut. I bet it would go on the cost of it. Okay. So that's interesting. And then what about this, Sean? Are you, well, what's your, what's your shampoo frequency? Oh, like pretty much every time. I have very, I have a very dry scalp. Okay. I use like a great expense. I wash it every time you can use conditioner. Conditioner is what helps your dry scalp. Yeah, I use conditioner. So it's probably every second time, probably every second time I wash it. So I'm wondering if all that money, and I'm talking to myself here too, if all that money you're saving on less frequent haircuts, you're blowing through your shampoo budget because the long hair requires more shampoo. Oh, we got a bigger, so you're going to say, now I'm thinking you should have more frequent haircuts, cheaper haircuts. I'm all less shampoo. Have you noticed the two different Americas that are here right now? You and I are wondering how much money we could save with shampoo over a long term with shorter hair. Meanwhile, we got $60 per meal over here. This is a class war. I'm going to say something to you that's going to upset you. Oh, fuck. You are not, you don't shampoo that often. I shampoo, yeah, I mean, not, not every two. I think with your long hair, with the fact that you don't wash your towels and you don't wash your sheets and you don't wash your pillowcases. On my body. And with the fact that you play hockey and stick your head into a hockey helmet three days a week, you should be at least conditionering more often because sometimes your hair smells bad. I conditioner every day. Okay. I shampoo, I try to shampoo like never. Like women. I shampoo after hockey because I have. Women don't wash their hair all the time because it's bad for your hair and the natural oils are good, but they have dry shampoo for the smell and for like taking care, like you got to just keep that in mind if you're going to have longer hair. I agree. And I think the longer hair actually should be shampooed more. Okay. Like short hair, you can shampoo never. Yeah. But long hair, it's like, okay. But again, with the sports, I'm forced to shampoo. I don't even want to shampoo as much as I do, but I shampoo because when I finish the game, I'm covered in sweat. And I'm like, okay. Is that, would hair people say don't shampoo then either? Like girls that don't shampoo, with long hair that don't shampoo that much, the ones that are athletes, do they get out of a hockey? Good question. We got to ask the gals because I don't know because I mean, when I work out, I mean, when I play hockey, obviously my head is completely soaked. Yeah. Top to tip to t-t-t-tinked, as they say. When I work out, pretty much the same thing happens. Like when I go to the gym, my entire head is soaked. And I'm like, this, my hair is covered in sweat. I should probably wash that. But people are like, no. Yeah. For whatever reason, I think the non-helmet sweat is, is okay. Helmet sweats, Tom. I was locked in with the helmet. Yeah. I'm just working out with an open-hand. Because like, I promise you guys, I have never washed my helmet. Yeah. That is full of years of sweat. If you're showering every time you take it off anyway. Yeah. But the helmet's still just, my gear stinks, dude. It's bad. Hockey gear smells real bad. Sean, are you going to grow it back out or are you short hair guy now? Oh, no. I can, I've estimated my budget. I got to go another six months with this bad boy. I am going to start paying for your haircut. No, I'm dead cheering. I will, I will take that offer. Like if you're a, if we'll treat him one to Nikki though. Yeah. Yeah. I just need a Nikki. It's so great. I tried to send you to Nikki. Does Nikki do curly hair though? Yeah. Yeah. He does. Nikki is a savant. The best haircut I ever got was when I first came to San Diego. It was a place in Salana Beach called Salana Barbers. I walked in and there was this, no one else was in the place. It was just this older Asian gentleman sitting down and I walked in and I didn't say anything to him. He just gestured to the seat. I sat down. He started putting my hair about five minutes in. I realized I have not said a word to this person. He has not said a word to me and I was like, I guess we're just going to see where this goes. He gave me the best haircut I've ever had in my life and for five years I went there looking for him and I'm not convinced he worked there because he has not been there any other time I've been there. He was literally Willy Wonka showing up to the town square just selling chocolates, trying to find himself a job. This guy just walked into a barber shop and found an open chair and gave Sean a haircut and then walked out. There was a sign on the wall that had the prices listed out and cash only and I opened up my wallet and gave him the price that it said on the thing. I said, is 20 right? He said, yes. I gave him another $5. That was the only thing I got. I said, thank you. And he nodded and I walked out. Did you have an appointment? Oh, no, I just walked in. That guy did not work there. I assure you. Well, he is sleeping on a great talent because he is the best barber I've ever been in. All right. Well, it's perfect time to have Sean here before we jump into a game to close out this episode. We've got big news, breaking news, breaking news. This trio right here, people have been clamoring for the next review. Next thing that we're going to do and we have made the decision in about two weeks here, less and not this Sunday, but next the following Sunday. The boys, your favorite review trio for the first time ever, I believe Sean, is that right for you? For the bachelor? Yeah. Yes. I think no, my roommates would have it on the background. OK. I vaguely know that's a reality TV show where people date and there's more. But you've never sat down and watched it. No, no. Neither have you. Correct. Neither have I. So we're going to pop our mutual cherries here and we are diving in to the bachelor. And it's actually the bachelorette. Oh, I thought it was the bachelor. No, it was the bachelorette. Season 22. That makes me so much happier because we get to critique the behavior of a bunch of douchey men. Yes, exactly. That's great. We are going to be diving into the bachelorette on the 22nd. Episodes will come out every Monday and apparently this is a big one. Yeah. She's from Mormon wives or something. Like she was the star of Mormon wives or something like. OK, sweet. And then now she's no longer Utah talk to Mormon wife. And now she's the best. What that. And that's this this one. Yeah, season 22, March 22, March 22. We're diving into the bachelorette. It's going to be great. Make sure to tune in because we're going deep. We're going deep. It's going to be fantastic. All right, CP, let's wrap things up with a nice game that you have for us. This game is called trivia factorial. I give Dan 10 or I give him one, two, three, four, five, six trivia questions about one player. The first one is worth 10 points, eight, six, four, two, one. And when he guesses, if he's wrong, you get zero and you can't guess again. So you have to be patient. Be careful unless you know for sure. I hate this game. I'm horrible at it. Dan's pretty good at it. I think I made this one kind of hard, though. So we'll see. Okay, ready? Yeah. For 10 points. Ray and Mike's deli in my hometown named a sandwich after me after my dominant cup run. OK. Really, all I got there is a dominant cup run. And it would that one would just be historic if you happen to know that. Yeah, I've been to Ray and Mike's deli and I have seen the blank. Oh my God. Okay. Okay, so far for eight points. Speaking of cups, I have three on two different teams. Oh, and I have one Olympic medal, which is pretty sick for the 72nd overall pick of the 2005 draft. Whoa. That's a good hint. It's a lot. I'll give you a lot there. Yeah. 72nd pick in 2005. So that's going to be a third rounder. Yep. Three cups. This guy is probably out of the league or just barely hanging on. Because he's old. He's old. He'd be old. He'd be old. Yeah. He'd be old. Move on. Move on. OK, for six points. I led UMass to its first ever NCAA tournament appearance in 2007. That's where I kind of made it hard. Usually the sixth one is really easy or not easy, but usually the sixth one is kind of a giveaway, but that is a hard one. So three cups. One Olympic medal. Third round pick in 2005 and went to UMass. Hockey East Boy. We love a hockey East Boy. Oh, what's crazy is there are some Ray and Mike's Deli fans screaming in the car right now. Screaming. They're like, I had it at 10, dude. I had the 10 pointer. OK, here's the thing. I think I know it. I'd be really impressed if you know it. I don't mean to scare you because like maybe you do, but I'd be really impressed if you know it. And I think four is in a giveaway, but I think you'll get it. I think I know it, but I think I want to go to four for the purposes of the game so people can hear more clues. And so I don't get it wrong. I want you to write down, right, to type it into the doc. I'm going to text it to Sean right now. OK. Because I think I know it. And I think the I think the second clue actually, I mean, that one gave me a lot. Yeah. Three cups on two different teams. Three cups on two different teams. OK, do you text him? I did. OK, for four points. I'm a two time Vezna nominee. Yeah, fucking Jonathan quick. Yeah. Though I've never won it, but I do have a con smite for my for my first of three cups in the early 2010s. For two points, I played prep school hockey at Avon, old France. And for one point in 2024, I passed Ryan Miller as the winningest US goalie ever. Come on, quickie. Johnny quick. Where's this hometown? Ham Hamden, Connecticut. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ray and Mike's Deli. We've got to go to Ray and Mike's. Yeah, it's called the quick, the quick which. That's great. Do you know what's on it? Oh, great question. Ray and Mike's Deli, the quick which. It was after 20 12 when he won cons, my in what many consider the greatest statistical goalie performance in playoffs of all time. Oh, shit. And they changed it to the quick which UMass was where I was like, he's a UMass guy. I couldn't believe that you knew that. Oh, my God. Tell me about the quick. Tell me about the quick which. OK, boys, Ray and Mike's Deli. They have featured items, steak and cheese, our famous made to order steak and cheese with onion choice of onions, peppers and mushrooms. The Mr. Nice guy chicken cutlet with cheddar, avocado, bacon, ranch, chipotle, mayo. The Caesar wrap explanatory, the sleeping giant steak and pastrami with Swiss cheese. Why are you reading me all the same? Because you need to understand this place. The buffalo filly. You can figure that out. The nightmare. The straw me with pepper jack cheese, grilled onions, peppers, tomato and spicy mustard. That sounds fantastic. Why is that called a nightmare? I don't know. The Bobcat wrap grilled chicken with mozzarella, pesto, tomato, herbs, panini, pressed the Mac daddy, barbecue, pork, cheddar, mac and cheese and bacon. And then the quick which a world famous steak and cheese with mac and cheese inside. That is diabolical. It's huge. Look at that, Sean. Can you get that? Steak and cheese with mac and cheese inside. No. What's so funny is you got to imagine that quickie made it like that was what he wanted. The quick which that's incredible. Insane. All right. That's incredible. This episode was incredible. You are all incredible. Hope you enjoyed this app. Hope you enjoyed the Charlie McEvoy interview. Make sure to log all those picks from the professors. Have an amazing weekend. Toss us some five star reviews on Spotify and Apple. Please, please, please. We love you guys. Subscribe everywhere. Follow us along again. Enjoy your weekend. Be safe. Watch the Oscars if you want. We'll be watching. We'll be watching. And we love you. 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