06-11-26 Part One - Liar Liar, Now You're Fired
76 min
•Jun 11, 2026about 1 month agoSummary
Gary McNamara and Eric Hurley discuss Scott Pelley's firing from CBS News, analyzing his claim of not knowing Barry Weiss and criticizing his lack of journalistic curiosity. The hosts then pivot to President Trump's Iran strategy, arguing he's been played by Iranian negotiators and must pursue regime change rather than diplomatic deals, while also warning Trump against statements like 'I love inflation' that damage his political standing.
Insights
- Major media figures claiming ignorance of significant news stories (like the Twitter Files) damages credibility and suggests either dishonesty or dangerous insularity in legacy media institutions
- Diplomatic negotiations with adversaries who have explicitly stated 'Death to America' for 47 years require verification-based approaches and regime change, not deal-making based on guarantees
- Political messaging discipline is critical—single poorly-chosen phrases ('I love inflation') can undermine months of policy messaging and be weaponized by opponents regardless of context
- The radical transgender movement's erasure of biological sex terminology represents institutional misogyny that disproportionately harms women's rights and identity
- Republican base motivation and confidence directly impacts election turnout; perceived weakness on national security or mixed messaging on core issues risks depressing voter participation
Trends
Legacy media institutions showing signs of ideological capture and insularity, losing touch with major news stories that don't align with institutional biasesState-level Democratic legislation attempting to replace biological sex terminology with gender-neutral language, facing grassroots Republican resistanceErosion of political messaging discipline among Republican leadership, with unscripted comments creating vulnerability to opposition attack adsIncreased scrutiny of government-social media coordination revealed through Twitter Files, becoming a defining media story comparable to WatergateRising skepticism among conservative commentators about diplomatic negotiations with Iran, favoring military/regime-change approachesInfluencer and online activist communities withdrawing support signals for Republican leadership when national security messaging appears inconsistentInflation remaining a persistent political liability despite economic improvements, requiring careful rhetorical framing
Topics
Scott Pelley CBS News Firing and Journalistic CredibilityTwitter Files and Government-Social Media CoordinationIran Nuclear Program and Regime Change StrategyPresidential Messaging Discipline and Political VulnerabilityGender-Neutral Terminology Legislation in New York StateTransgender Rights vs. Women's Rights FramingInflation and Economic Messaging PoliticsFBI Involvement in Social Media Content ModerationStrait of Hormuz and Oil Supply SecurityRepublican Base Motivation and Election TurnoutDiplomatic Negotiations with Hostile RegimesMedia Bias and Institutional InsularityHempstead Township Emergency Resolution on Parental TerminologyCeasefire vs. Unconditional Surrender in Military StrategyGovernment Surveillance and Civil Liberties
Companies
CBS News
Scott Pelley's firing from CBS News and questions about editorial bias in covering the Twitter Files and Iran coverage
Twitter
Central to Twitter Files revelations about government coordination to suppress content; Elon Musk's acquisition and s...
60 Minutes
Scott Pelley's primary role at CBS; hosts questioned whether 60 Minutes covered the Twitter Files story
Facebook
Mark Zuckerberg's admission on Joe Rogan that FBI requested throttling of laptop story misinformation in 2020
New York Times
Referenced for reporter who fabricated travel stories; Barry Weiss's prior employment before Twitter Files work
The Free Press
Media outlet founded by Barry Weiss after Twitter Files reporting; represents independent journalism alternative
Wall Street Journal
Editorial board published 'Trump Needs a New Iran Strategy' piece cited by hosts supporting their Iran criticism
New York Post
Counted 38 instances of Trump claiming Iran deal was imminent; editorial criticized administration's Iran approach
Relief Factor
Sponsor offering drug-free pain management product; hosts personally endorse based on personal use
Hot Shot Secret
Sponsor providing fuel additives and engine maintenance products for transportation industry
People
Scott Pelley
Fired from CBS News; claimed ignorance of Barry Weiss despite Twitter Files being major 2022 story
Barry Weiss
Primary author of Twitter Files; appointed head of CBS News, triggering Pelley's dismissal after his criticism
Gary McNamara
Co-host analyzing Scott Pelley firing, Iran strategy, and political messaging issues
Eric Hurley
Co-host discussing media bias, Iran negotiations, and Republican political strategy
Andrew McCabe
Interview with Scott Pelley criticized for lack of journalistic curiosity in questioning
Elon Musk
Purchased Twitter; Twitter Files revelations exposed government coordination on content moderation
Mark Zuckerberg
Admitted on Joe Rogan that FBI requested throttling of laptop story misinformation in 2020
Donald Trump
Primary focus of discussion regarding Iran strategy, inflation messaging, and political discipline
Kathy Hochul
New York Governor; has not yet signed bill replacing mother/father with gender-neutral parental terms
John Ferretti
Led emergency resolution opposing New York bill to replace mother/father terminology
Leslie Stahl
Claimed Scott Pelley's firing was worst thing she'd experienced, criticized by hosts as dramatic
Maggie McNeely
Criticized gestating parent terminology as dehumanizing and reductive of women's identity
Stephen A. Smith
Engaged in public back-and-forth with Trump over Knicks game attendance; called low IQ by Trump
Sarah Palin
Referenced in discussion of New York Times editorial about targeting and political violence
Tai Ebe
Personally attacked during congressional hearings on Twitter Files; subject of IRS visit on testimony day
Matt Schellenberger
Personally attacked during congressional hearings; possibly subject of IRS visit on testimony day
Quotes
"He's lying. He's lying. He's lying because he's trying to justify his childish behavior and his comments during that meeting."
Gary McNamara•Early segment on Scott Pelley
"There's no way you could miss that story. There's no way. In fact, you think about it. Barry Weiss has been really at the forefront...she's been right in the heart of the debate about bias in the media."
Gary McNamara•Twitter Files discussion
"They're playing us for suckers. That means they're playing me for a sucker."
Donald Trump (quoted)•Iran strategy discussion
"There is no deal to be had with Iran. None. The regime has to be gone. We need the uranium in our hands. Period."
Gary McNamara•Iran strategy conclusion
"You cannot have that. And you have to go to work and complete the mission because you can't afford to lose your base."
Gary McNamara•Republican base motivation discussion
Full Transcript
Now, it's Red Eye Radio. Gary McNamara and Eric Hurley talk about everything from politics to social issues and news of the day. Whether you're up late or you're just starting your day, welcome to the show from the Relief Factor Studios. This is Red Eye Radio. All across America. We are Red Eye Radio at E is Eric Hurley and I'm Gary McNamara. Hi. All right. We got a lot, a lot to talk about today. Yeah, we do. But I can't believe that I missed this. I did not see it in the interview that he did. But, you know, one of the things we said about Scott Pelle getting fired, one of the things I said is, the first thing that I would notice if I was his boss and a ton of other, you know, you know, political activists that exist in there, is it comes across to the public that you have no curiosity. Yeah. You know, when you look at the Andrew McCabe interview, for example, as we said, there was a complete lack of curiosity, which means you go in and you say, well, I don't understand this. You make this allegation. Where does this come from? Right. Well, we can't tell you. Well, then how do we know it's legit? If you can't tell us. But, and so we brought that up the other day that, you know, the, yes, he's a political activist. So there has to be a lack of curiosity for what you don't want to broadcast. Yeah. But when he said the, when he said this, there were two things yesterday that I went, wow. When Scott Pelley said he had no idea who Barry Weiss was until it was announced she was going to be the head of CBS News, you're fired. Yeah. Yeah, you're fired for it. You sound like that reporter from the New York Times that pretended to be traveling and wrote articles. Yeah. Because if he were traveling, remember that years ago, several years ago, forget how long ago that was, but it was, it goes back several years. And it turns out the person was never actually traveling to go do the stories, just writing them from home. And I thought to myself at that time, well, why would you bother you work for the New York Times? You're not, you know, you're not interested in journalism. Go ahead and make it up as you go along. But it sounds like a lame excuse because remember his position in that meeting where he went off on the executive producer and Barry Weiss. It was nobody knows you. You don't have experience. I mean, this is the, the thoughts he was trying to convey, just attacking them on your nobodies. And now he's trying to use that as a defense for his behavior. There's no way you didn't know who Barry Weiss was. If Barry Weiss had never been on board at the Twitter files and came straight from New York Times to CBS, he would have run down the hall and give her a hug. Oh, yeah. That would have been if she had never done the work at the, at Twitter for Elon Musk's project, she would have been welcomed with and straight from the New York Times welcomed with open arms. He probably would have done a piece on 60 minutes about her. But it shows you the fact either he's lying. Yeah. And I believe he's lying. I believe he's lying. I believe he's lying because she authored. Remember the Twitter files. She was the main author of it. And what, when did she put out that report, which means she was working on it for a significant portion of that year. How long ago did the Twitter files, did the first report come out that, you know, Barry Weiss did that was a the, the one of the, the biggest story in the political story in the country for a significant period of time. Yeah, that was 2022. Yeah. So he's trying to convince you, Scott Peli, that he had no idea of Barry Weiss authoring, you know, when that report came out the first report in December of 2022. Right. So three and a half years. Right. He had never had heard her name, had no idea what she did. And then she took that and catapulted that in to the free press. Mm hmm. Which made noise, which was absolutely, absolutely made noise. And he's trying to convince you that he had no idea who she was until she was made the head of CBS News. He's lying. He's lying. He's lying because he's trying to justify his childish behavior and his comments during that meeting. Right. That got him fired. Yep. I had no idea who she was. Yeah. It's like, it's an absolute lie. But if you're saying, well, how do you guys know what's in his brain? Because it was the biggest story of the year. It was the same thing with the New York, remember when the New York Times wrote that editorial on, well, what's her name? The, on the map for, remember the map after the shooting of what she did. Oh, yeah. Was it Heather, somebody with that, that you mean the one that wrote the statistics report, the stats report? The, no, the, the, the report that the, the, the, the, that the, the vice president or excuse me, the vice presidential candidate at that time. I got mind blank here. McCain's vice presidential candidate. Sarah, Sarah Palin. Sarah Palin. Right. The whole Sarah Palin thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Of the lawsuit and everything else, but what they wrote. Right. That's what you're talking about. Right. Of the, the, the, the target and the target exactly. Right. And, and we said, they knew it. They're lying. They knew it because we all knew it. It was the biggest story in the media. They were lying. Right. Yeah. Because that was that surrounded the Gabby Gifford shoot. Right. The Gabby Gifford shooting. Exactly. So they knew, you know, and we said, sorry, they're lying. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I'm not lying. 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That's who she, but she believed and that was the story. And everybody listening right now, you know it. If you're a Democrat, you know it. And Scott Pelley had no idea who she was. It's not, it's not believable. And then the Leslie Stahl story. I mean, when she said the worst thing she's ever experienced was the firing of Scott Pelley in her life. It's like, oh my God, what a blessed life you've lived. If that's a co-worker gets fired, that's the worst thing in your long life you've ever experienced. Again, I don't believe her. No, she's staying that because she wants to create this incredible drama, which again, if I'm CBS, I'm like, I don't want her. All right. So CBS Evening News, Scott Pelley was no longer the anchor then, but CBS Evening News aired a story on the Twitter files, December, well, of course they did. 14th, 2022. And it was court, of course, it was probably, you know, you know, attacking the Elon Musk and the idea of the Twitter files. I don't know, but I'm just guessing. But he was working for four CBS News at the time at 60 minutes. It was a huge story. There's no way he didn't learn it through the hallways. If it was on the Evening News, they probably put it on the table for 60 minutes at some point. I don't know if they ever aired anything on 60 minutes. It was one of the biggest stories of 2022. And it was the change because it was after Elon Musk bought Twitter. Right. It was the change. In fact, without the Twitter files, there probably wouldn't have been, much of the world would be saying, you know, oh, he's, you know, I mean, there's still, many of them are still saying this, you know, he's just, you know, someone who moved right. He's just a right winger Elon Musk. And he's not justified. But when you, if you took a look at just the basics of what was found in the Twitter files, you have to be frightened as to what your government would do and did do during those years at Twitter. Yeah. I mean, it was the nobody. It's probably one of the biggest media stories. Yeah. I don't know anybody that challenged the emails and the messages to you that came out and challenged the messages between like the FBI and the staff at Twitter at the time that was exposed, all that stuff that was exposed. The evidence itself, I don't know that anybody ever came out. No, they, no, they attacked them personally. Right. But no, I don't think anybody ever did, but it was the, I'm looking it back and I'm thinking to myself, you know, again, I go back maybe a few years, it may be the biggest, it might have been the biggest media story since the initial criticism of the Washington Post as the, you know, being criticized by the Nixon administration for Watergate. Yeah. Right. Because that went on for a while. Those stories went on for a significant period of time, but, you know, Elon Musk taking over Twitter, the sensory, the FBI's involvement in it, what the Twitter files found out may be the biggest media story in the past half century, maybe even bigger than Watergate, because Watergate was just an investigation of a newspaper investigating a story. This was about government intrusion and government influence to censor what they didn't like through private organizations and private media outlets and a ton of people that were anti one candidate involved in working in social media to help censor with a relationship, law enforcement, with a relationship to current law enforcement working in the FBI. The closest 60 minutes have ever did on the Twitter files was a piece in November of 22, early November of 22 on social media and political polarization in America. Just generally speaking, the chat, the back and forth on social media, but there's no way the following month CBS Evening News, and again, he wasn't anchor then, Scott Pelly, but down the hallway at CBS Evening News, they did a story on it, there's no way he didn't know about it then. You're lying, Scott Pelly. But that was just the report that came out. They had to do story after story. Oh yeah. I'm assuming of the actual, remember, congressional hearings. Yes. Where you had, you know, Schellenberger out there, because they were part of it also, Schellenberger and Ty Ebe, especially that were being attacked personally, and then remember what a big story it was. Was it Ty Ebe? Where the FBI showed up at his, or the IRS showed up at his door? Was it Schellenberger? I can't remember who it was. I can't remember which one it was, but it was one of those two. Right, remember that whole thing? They showed up the day he was testifying. Right, the day he was testifying, and remember he said it wasn't about a refund or something. It was like, yeah, the IRS doesn't show up at your door like that. Yeah, we owe you money. And so it was, it was such a big story, and Scott Pelly is trying to convince you that he didn't know about any of it. Well, then you're fired. You're fired because you're either lying or, it proves what I've said, you are in this insular bubble where you have no idea what the hell's going on in the world, and you're considered one of the major focus points of 60 minutes. You're a horrible liar. Yeah. You made up a lie that just makes you sound ignorant. I know. It's just like, and I'm, that was, you know, was there was, was there any, was there any self, my thought was, is there any self awareness here at all? You know what you're doing? Do you know how you're making yourself look like an idiot to anybody who has any type of basic intelligence at all? By the way, is he not childlike? He really is. No, he is. He's a teenager. He's that kind of teenager who believes he knows more than the parents. Yeah. And he's sounding like he's, I'm just Ron Burgundy. I just read what's on the front. I don't, I didn't know this Barry, Barry, wife. I don't know who he is. It's a she, oh, I'm just learning that good. Then your firing is justified. Yes. Because you're ignorant. It was a massive turn in social media. I believe it's what prompted Zuckerberg to eventually go on Rogan and say, well, yeah, they called us during the summer of, uh, was it, uh, 2016 about the, about the laptop or 2020 about the laptop and said there's going to be some instant information. We need you to throttle that misinformation down. Zuckerberg, that was his version of the Facebook files, basically, when he was on Rogan, I think maybe another interview or two, he might have said similar things, but basically that this was a huge, huge, huge story. And by the way, if you didn't do it, it also explains the justification for change, big change at your parent company, CBS News, because that right there tells you, well, I didn't even, so you guys never did a story on it because imagine that was Trump's FBI controlling all social media. Imagine that was Trump directing that, that a GOP or was, was directing that. A cash patelle calling social media to say, hey, this story's coming out. Could you throttle this down a little bit? Yeah, I mean, they were basically setting up office at Twitter, the FBI was. They were setting up a, it was like a satellite office almost. You know, they had just become so cozy there at Twitter controlling the message. And we know Facebook the same thing. We are Red Eye Radio, brought to you by Hot Shot Secret. Hi, I'm Jen Lumis, a transport safety expert at JJ Keller. Once a roadside inspection is completed, the officer will close it out. 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You know, the one thing when you look back at it here where, you know, we know Scott Pelley is lying when he said he didn't know Barry Weiss was because it was the biggest media story for a significant period of time for over a year. Yeah, I mean it was and it's still huge today. Yeah, you know, we're purchasing it and then starting the Twitter files and then remember how many reports did Barry Weiss put out? Yeah. How many installments of the Twitter file were there? Oh man, one, two, three, four, 10, 15, 20 installments of the Twitter files. It seemed like we were getting a new one all the time. Right, we're released between December and March of 2023. It was a story that was out there every single day and Democrats, as we talked about when the hearings took place, you know, the personal attacks on, you know, on Tai Ebi and Schellenberger and then Schellenberger, which I forgot which one got the visit from the IRS agents at his house that days he was testifying. Wow, for Pelley to say he didn't know it. Yeah, who she was, he's lying. Hey there, I'm Paula Pan. I help people make the smartest money decisions possible. If you don't control your money, it controls you. Yeah, you're not in control of your finances. You have to look outside of yourself to live the life that you want. You're not in control. You're like, like, what is it that you actually want? Money should follow the dreams and goals because sometimes you make the dream and goal of the money and you've overworked yourself and you've exceeded what you've needed for the actual thing you want. Sometimes we forget, like, what's the actual thing you want? Afford anything, follow and listen on your favorite platform. We are Reddit Radio and he's our colleague and I'm Gary McNamara. The inflation numbers have come out. And by the way, Mr. President, what not to say when an inflation report comes out? I love inflation. Yeah, even if you say because when the war is over, it will come down, you never say the words, I love inflation because it will be used against every Republican coming up in November. Yep. Yep. Yep. The second half of that will never be put in the ads. It's the first half. And even though their side said it and tried to promote inflation as a good thing when it was over 9% and saying that means people are spending more money. It's one of the reasons they lost. Yeah. One of the major reasons they lost. Yep. Again, this is Politics 101. Yeah. And I'm sorry for people that say, well, Trump's not a politician. He is now. Yes. I thought we were beyond that. But yeah, you're right. Yeah, we're probably have to the words never to say Politics 101. You never say the words, I love inflation. Yeah, no. I love the inflation. You never say those words ever. No. No, no, no. Yeah, but the he finished it up. Doesn't matter. Yeah. You say, no, we all hate inflation, but right. You say inflation is transitory. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You don't say that. Well, in this case, you actually could say that it's temporary based on the war. Do not say it's do not use the word transitory. Stay away from any T word. As a result of our efforts in Iran, which will have a long term benefit, which will mean a safe and prosperous United States. This is only temporary. And I'm telling you right now, it's going to be great. And we're going to take care of Iran, which gets us to the comments on Iran and the actions against Iran, which we'll get to in a minute here. But I just want to let me just get to the problem. I think it was the Babylon B that had the headline. Let me just check here. By the way, I just think the main update state flag with swastika and it's a state main state flag with the swastika. Yeah. Where was it yesterday? It was, I don't know, maybe it's not on the page. Maybe they just had it as a, you know, on social media. But it was, people still looking for the benefit of the Iran war. It was a Babylon B headline. And again, I say that because Babylon B is a Christian pro-Trump. Yeah. And they're not anti-Trump at all. Parity websites. So I saw that yesterday. I'm like, oh boy. But when you look at it, just to look at the inflation numbers, and then we'll get down to all the Iran stuff. The consumer price index increased 4.2% last year relative to a year earlier, the highest annual inflation rate since April of 23 and an increase from 3.8% in April. 60% of it though because of energy prices. Yeah. Okay. So you look at it and you can say, all right, there are, you know, the economically speaking, the economists looked at it and said, well, really can't get anything on this because the energy prices are so much of it. Right at the moment, I don't care about, it's not the economic issues. It's number one to me. It's the political issue of how this will hurt you in November. And that's why when he said, I love the inflation, it's like, oh, God, please just shut up. But when you look at it, food from home still up 2.7%. Food away from home up 3.5%. That's interesting because food away from home, normally the last couple of months has been lower than food at, you know, food at home. It's actually been lower. Yeah, there have been some fast food menu adjustments, I think during that period, which is why that may have happened. Energy up 23.5% gasoline 40.5% of course, electricity 5.9%. Pipe gas 3%. Apparel, you know, you look at it now as we get, we get closer to, you know, I mean, with schools ending, for example, just is ending on the east coast, it's been out for a few weeks. But still, you've got over the summer looking for school stuff. Apparel up 4.8%. Rent of primary resonance 2.9%. New vehicles and used cars down. That's because they're not selling. You saw the OEMs a couple of weeks ago said, expect a bad year. Yeah, you had motor vehicle maintenance and repair 6.1%. Motor vehicle insurance up 6.1%. Airfare 26.7%. Medical care services 3.8%. And so, I mean, you look at those numbers and you can, you can throw out the numbers and say this, you know, you take out the energy prices and it's not that bad. Economically speaking, you can say that if the hypothetically, if the war ends in a month and gasoline prices come down. My major concern right now is I said everything I'm focused on is I want the Republicans to win. Any criticism I have towards Republicans and the administration is based on one thing. Not that I want the Democrats to win. I want the Republicans to win. And it seems like at times they are not as focused as the members of their party wish them to be. You know, I'm thinking in my mind, looking at the calendar, if you, if you were going to do what needs to be done and complete the mission in Iran, which I believe should include two main items and that is checking the regime out and then getting the the securing and getting and keeping the uranium. That two tier mission, I'm thinking to myself, well, I mean, you probably could do it in eight weeks, but I don't know. That seems like a short period for me, but let's just say you could do it in eight weeks. That still basically gets you to mid August prices start dropping on energy late August. The driving season will be ending in late August. And then you start seeing then the energy prices because of heating oil, just natural demand would come back as the months start to cool. But the point would be is that if you could get that mission done, you might be able to settle the markets, but I don't even know if you have that kind of time. Even if you could get the mission done in eight weeks, you're asking for the public to have the perception of I saw gas at 313 the other day. And I thought I paid I paid 320, which is really a dollar lower than it was. Yeah. And so and the president, in fact, told us yesterday why that was, right? They have been sneaking oil through the Strait of Hormuz all along in Iran just discovered it. And the supply and he said it was millions of barrels a day. So if, you know, if the supply again, if there was this, a total of 100 million barrels, which would be five days supply for the United States, right? And if you're looking at that, you know, that effort, if there was some kind of offshore glut or whatever, which has happened, you know, I didn't hear anything like that. But this was a secret of mission. He said no lights on the freighters, nothing. So he said Iran found out about it, or they'd still be doing it. Is that more justification of, all right, you're going to have to control the Strait of Hormuz the down pilots is one thing. But beyond that, you've got to control Iran. You've got to control the regime. You've got to and you've got to get the mission done. There is you. There is no, there's there's no discussion. There is no deal to be had with Iran. No one believes that. And the administration knows that. So trying to kick the can until November 3rd is a futile effort. You're going to have to have a two tier mission. You take out the regime and you get control of all of the uranium. And I don't know what that can be done right now. I'm just throwing this out. That's in order to complete conquering Iran. That's what you're going to have to do. And then of course, maintain the Strait of Hormuz. Look, the the the president yesterday said what the biggest supporters of what he has done, you know, initially what he did in Iran have been saying all along. In fact, if you look at the New York Post editorial, which we read on the air yesterday, the New York Post editorial said, his, you know, his, the Trump's advisors need to stop, you know, having the United States look like suckers. And the president said yesterday, he said those words, Iran is playing us for suckers, which means they're playing you for a sucker. Yeah, because you're the only one that matters. You're, you're the guy running the whole thing. You're so Trump came out and said they're playing me for a sucker, which is exactly. And so everything that he has been saying all the 38 times that the New York Post actually counted that he has said we're close to a deal was all BS. All of it. They were stalling. If you were helping them, if you were stalling and believing the talks were going anywhere, you were helping them do whatever that was. By the way, by the way, I'm saying Iran was was BSing. You're not BSing if you believe it. If you if Trump believe it. And I don't know whether here's my point. Did Trump really believe it? Or was he just doing that politically? Because he was trying, he thought it was politically advantageous to keep promoting it, even if he knew we weren't close to a deal. It's hard to know. And I thought for the first few weeks, this gives you room for a very, I think a very important Intel mission, let the dust settle. But we're so far past that. Now it is a rant had time to according to reports and satellite photos, start to dig out the rubble of those missile sites, and possibly make progress at getting the uranium. Now it's been told by the administration, and I think a couple of people in the media said, Well, they can't they don't have the equipment to get all the uranium. I don't know that I don't know what equipment they're being supplied by China by Russia. The Israelis have been hanging out in Azerbaijan, with troops there. That was discovered. And that's the land basically the land between Russia and Iran. You have to go through Azerbaijan if you're going to move by land. And so that, you know, it's hard to know what's going on, what they're being supplied with what Iran has. I think again, the first few weeks, you it's it's heavy Intel mission to find out what's left when the dust settles. But you if you're if you do believe that they're at the table, and they want a meaningful deal, first of all, you're a sucker to believe it, that they would ever abide by the deal. Right. Because they'll write a deal, they'll put it down on paper, and then just, you know, okay, all right, well, now it's going to be 60 days or 90 days, where we come to a, you know, a ceasefire, remember, because it was a ceasefire, and then a peace deal, 60 to 90 days down the road or whatever. And they're like, fine, we'll just keep breaking it all the way then. Right. And and that's that's the whole point, even when the president said, because it seemed like he was becoming out strong yesterday, you know, and then it was like, I got a call, they called me directly, and they're ready to deal. And they better otherwise we bomb the Assad of them tomorrow. No, no, no. And it's just like, you know, they're extending, they're extending, they're extending, they're extending it. There's no deal to be had. Right. Take out the regime. All there is is the United States setting the terms and verifying it. Yeah. And the regime has to be gone, because even if we have the uranium, the regime is going to fund if you let them play in the oil game, they're going to fund their proxies. And you know, attacking the United States. Yes. We are what I radio coming up more with Gary MacDemiro and Eric Harley. It's red eye radio. We are what I radio. He's our chronic I'm Gary MacDemiro. Just real quickly looking at the latest reports of what might be going on over, you know, overnight. And there was, you know, some of the reports that was it over, you know, over Israel and Jordan, whatever, that there were other, you know, missiles and things like that. Right. And that I was reading that on X, you know, I haven't seen it just went to Fox News, I haven't seen an update on it, but we'll do some research on that to find out the latest on that. Because as we know, even after the, and by the way, those helicopter pilots, you read the story on that, they were awful lucky. The drone, the explosives and the drone didn't blow up. Yeah, right. The helicopter right between them. Right. Yeah. And so that story is, yeah, that's wild. It was, was, was, was wild. So it's going to be interesting to see what happens in the next 36 hours. So to be our news is brought to you by how products visit how products.com. This is red eye radio on Westwood one. Now it's red eye radio, Gary McNamara and Eric Hurley talk about everything from politics to social issues and news of the day, whether you're up late or you're just starting your day. Welcome to the show from the relief factor studios. This is red eye radio all across America. We are red eye radio and he is there. And I'm Gary McNamara. Welcome and good morning. Hello. Yeah, I wasn't the best day for the president. Then he looks like he's backing off on on a poll. He is ahead of D and I. Yeah. He just too much pressure on that one coming from his own party on that. I have no idea why he, why he, why he picked him. Well, I can do it. And, and you know, there's the part of the discussion is whether the DNI is even a an office that needs to be in the federal government. I do like that. Well, you know, you have 18 Intel agencies and my question would be, I mean, we have leaders of those other Intel agencies. John Radcliffe is doing a good job, I think at CIA and I naturally thought they would ask Radcliffe. But what I just said may have over qualified him, which is to say they need him at the CIA more than than they need him as DNI. And is the DNI has it become more of a clerical position? I don't think that it is. But do you need? Yeah, do you actually need that position filled? I don't know. And, and but many of the GOP thought the nominee wasn't wasn't qualified. And, and so that looks like they're backing off. We'll see who the next nominee is, I guess. But like I said, when he said yesterday, I just I love the inflation. It doesn't matter what he said afterwards, the Democrats will use that all the way up to the election. You want to vote for a Republican? Here it is. We love inflation, just like the Republican use the whole transitory thing against, you know, against Biden, right, and everything about inflation back then, just a horrible move. And then when we come to the, the, you know, the the war in Iran yesterday, where the president really verified what every critic that has been on his side has said when he said, yeah, they're, they're playing us for suckers. That means they're playing me for a sucker. Yeah. And, and he made it sound like he's not going to allow himself to do that again. But then he said, they called me, they called when we did it, they called me and it's like, and if there's not a deal, well, then we'll bomb the S side of them tomorrow. Don't try and walk the fence for the markets, if that's your approach, if that's what you're trying to accomplish. Well, the fact is when, and I didn't count it when the New York Post came out and said, we've been close to a deal 38 times. I'm like, okay, no wonder everybody's tired about it. No wonder it's almost like, you know, crying wolf. You say it so much that we're here, we're here and you're not there. And then this all happens. And then you go back and say, well, they call us. So now there were that now they're serious about doing it. And it's like, no. And when we even looked at the deal that they talked about a few weeks ago, which was okay, not a not a peace deal yet, but a ceasefire and then whatever it was, and then 60 days or a indeterminate amount of time, I don't know what the exact amount of time would have been in order to have a peace deal, you know, to get rid of the, you know, the nuclear weapons and everybody went stalling. And now he said yesterday, they've been playing me all along. Yeah. And it's like, that's what everybody on your side has not, not the opposition. Everybody on your side has been telling you this. And you know, why is that? Why have you allowed yourself to be played by the Iranians? It's not like they were trustworthy before the war. No, there was no reason they were going to be trustworthy now, no matter how much you bomb the S out of them. And, and then when, you know, this beginning of this week, when he went after Israel for defending themselves, right, said Israel's not the problem. When he was trying to make the moral equivalency or trying to make the case that both, both sides, Israel and Iran need to stop fighting as if the United States wasn't part of it. These are all bizarre statements that don't make any sense. And as you know, and then when our helicopter is, is attacked, it's like, okay, we're going to go in and we're going to strike back. Well, you're telling Israel not to strike back and you're striking back and they're hitting, you know, they're hitting their home country, right? They're hitting places within their own country. And it's just, again, it's become a cluster here where you initially had clarity as to what the president wanted. Yeah. And now you don't even know in words. Yeah. And yeah. But the one thing is, you know, well, what does Iran want? Iran wants to stretch this out as long as possible. Or like the alien in Independence Day, through the glass, telling what do you want from us? Die. Yeah, I mean, that if you ask Iran what they want, death to America, that's, they've been screaming. Is, is anybody not paying attention? It's 47 years. It's not like they started screaming that in March. And, and one of the things being asked by the president's supporters, what do you want? What would you view as the deal? When the president said, but 10 days ago, well, they've given us, well, Iran's given us our guarantee they want to get rid of it means nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Stop talking guarantees or a deal. Start talking about how you will verify everything because that's the only thing that matters is the verification of it. And then you have to explain to your own party that if they agree to a deal that you'll allow the money to start flowing again, that we'll go right back to the proxies that will be used to attack the United States. That's why the mission has to be a two tier approach. That the regime has to be gone. And we have to have the uranium. Well, that's what with president stated his goal was in that eight minute speech. Yep. And then afterwards talked about the only thing acceptable is unconditional surrender. There is no deal in an unconditional surrender. Now, one of the things as we've criticized with this president, whether it came, you know, domestically, the doge checks and the tariff checks and everything else, we said, don't over promise and under deliver. Don't do it. Well, and on national defense, don't ever, never, ever do that. No. Because you come off as weak and everything falls on you. Everything, all the bucks stop with you. Your commander in chief. And you get all the credit for taking Iran out and taking the old I a tola out. But if you don't finish the job, you get zero credit for any of it. Trump needs a new Iran strategy editorial board Wall Street Journal after weeks of insisting a deal with Iran is around the corner. President Trump may be admitting the reality. The regime is tapping the U. S along in negotiations. He said Wednesday, the president has given diplomacy a chance, but they keep playing us for suckers. That's a quote from the president yesterday. He added is Mr. Trump ready at last for a new approach for nine weeks. A ceasefire has led Iran dictate events in the Gulf. The regime gets to start each skirmish shooting at U. S forces, U. S allies or commercial ships, then decides when the exchange ends. Iran also has used Hezbollah to fire on Israel, only to cite the resulting fighting in Lebanon as an excuse to stall talks with the U. S. Each prior Iranian attack has sent Mr. Trump racing to deescalate. This means meant force of forcing ceasefires in Lebanon and then blaming Israel when Hezbollah kept on shooting or playing down Iranian fire on U. S troops as a trifle, meriting love taps in reply. Iran's large strike on the Kuwaiti's airport was not a big deal. Mr. Trump said he said the same of Iran's Sunday strike on Israel, urging it not to reply since the missiles didn't hurt anybody. That logic leads to trouble. Only by a miracle did two U. S pilots survive after an Iranian drone struck and burned inside their Apache helicopter near the Strait of Hormuz on Monday. Yeah, Mr. Trump's early reaction was to say this to quote, it wasn't a big deal. Criticize the idea of returning to war and have the U. S Central Command announce that its response would be proportional. Sencom says it hit 20 air defense targets on Tuesday and Iran fired back in the Gulf, given Israel had also hit reconstituted Iranian air defenses that combined effort could prepare for something larger. But Mr. Trump limited Israel's strikes and previewed his own in public. When the U. S says proportional, Iran hears weak, as we said yesterday, offering the regime such forward guidance signals that Mr. Trump still fears a return to war. Iran may reply with greater force if he strikes again, as the president said he would do as early as Wednesday night. Mr. Trump won't want to hear it, but he has been dancing to Iran's tune. He will have to break from it or go down as losing the war politically, despite the early military gains. It's not too much to say Mr. Trump faces similar choices, the one that Bush faced in Iraq in 2006, 2007. The insurgency was winning and Mr. Bush needed to shift his strategy or accept defeat. He chose the surge that broke the insurgency and the U. S was able to maintain influence in Iraq in that region. Mr. Trump had hope for Iranian concessions, but he abandoned much of his leverage by showing he would not continue a return to war. Iran's regime has taken advantage, as Mr. Trump now acknowledges, the president also said Wednesday that a U. S secret mission since May has helped 200 ships and 100 million barrels of oil escape the Strait of Hormuz. We took out the other 20, 22 ships late at night with no lights. That's why oil is $85 a barrel. That's progress and essentially a resumption of project freedom while the U. S blockade of Iranian ports imposes severe costs on the regime, but the Strait is still largely closed to commercial shipping. Some 130 transited, some 130 ships went through the Hormuz each day pre-war. So but there you go. The way for Mr. Trump to write the ship is to go on offense and that means more pounding Iran. So there you go. So you can sit there and criticize the critics of the president, but the president just verified that the critics that were pro-Trump and pro-Iran were actually correct. And how do we know that? Because the president said it yesterday. Well, he basically quoted the New York Post. Yeah. So there you have it. I mean, you and I have been looking at this. Everybody, I think some of our listeners believe we have an insider or we're insiders at the White House because we say something and quite often something happens the next day, but all we're doing is observing reality. That's all we're doing. This isn't hard. And understanding the reality of Iran and the Islamic jihad mentality. You and I have been through this for 47 years. Yeah, this isn't new stuff. No. And, and so, and I don't want to, you know, and, and honestly, almost like erasing everything up until recently with, with what he's saying about Iran and, and stalls in the 38 times of saying they've got a deal and then saying, I love inflation, made you wonder if Joe Biden's back in control. Yeah, as if he ever were, it was a bad day. It was, it wasn't not been a good week for the president. You cannot have that. And you have to go to work and complete the mission because you can't afford to lose your base. If they're not motivated, motivated, we've seen that before. At the GOP base, the rank and file voter is not motivated in November. If they have no confidence, they won't show up. We've seen that before. We don't want that. I want the GOP to win. And even then, if they win, you're still going to have a ton of challenges because you're not going to have a super majority in the House or the Senate. So you have to start with the win and you cannot piss off your base. Stop. No, this is national security. And as we've seen, you know, and you know it because you don't see online, right? You know, and that's where you know the influencers, right? Nobody is saying, you know, they may say now if Trump goes back in, yeah, good, you know, good for you, right? But nobody there has. I haven't seen one influencer and these influencers are the cheerleaders of the president on anything that he does. Right. They've been completely quiet for the last week. Yep. Last couple of weeks really on Iran, right? We are right. I radio this morning's USDA Farm report is brought to you by House Products, tested, trusted, guaranteed since 1920. The importance of value added in ag trade and U.S. ag producers and ag industries bottom line. When it comes to value added export opportunities, they are unlimited. Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins Wednesday, testifying before the Senate Agriculture Committee. She notes ethanol made from corn as a private example of value added as several foreign markets have biofuel demand from consumers and regulatory objectives sat down with some ethanol buyers in England. And as so many of these countries, whether we agree with them or not, but they have put themselves into a certain category of reaching certain numbers on carbon, et cetera. It is our farmers in America that will be, I believe, the most benefited from those rules around the world. 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You cannot, if that's, if that's been your brand, you can't sit there and say, oh, I love the inflation. You can't. You just can never say those words, no matter what you say afterwards. It doesn't matter. That doesn't disarm anything. Right. You can't do that. No. And, you know, and, and when he's talking about ballrooms, or going to nick games, or, you know, that, you know, I'm going to have another rally, or what was the other one? I think what was the other one that he was talking about? You come across as going, you care more about, you care more about the imagery of being president than actually what you said you wanted to do for us. That's the danger that he is creating. And I want Republicans to win, and I want Trump to be successful. None of it comes as anybody knows from the fact that we don't want them to be successful. No, I want to win. I want big, I don't want the GOP to win, to keep the GOP in power necessarily, as much as I want them to give him the power to finish his agenda on a number of things. Oh, I know the rest of his second term. The whole UFC fight at the White House. Yeah. Stop it. Yeah. Stop it. Nobody gives a damn about that. Right. Stop it. I mean, just stop it. You're coming off. That's what I say. Stop coming off as an elitist. You did the opposite. That's how you became president the first time. You cared, you know, you cared about the success of the small guy. And now you're saying inflation doesn't matter. And look at all the things that we're doing to have fun. Stop it. You have to finish on national defense. You have to finish the job. There is no half measure. Yep. There is no half measure. And you can't pause it because of an election, you'll lose your base. Yeah. You're finding that out very quickly. There's no deal to be had with Iran. None. The regime has to be gone. We need the uranium in our hands. Period. And I don't believe that's going to be a short-term thing. Well, because we don't know how deep the ties were told. The 4000. It could be 10,000. It could be 100,000. But in order to do that, loyal to the regime, in order to do that, don't you have to get rid of the regime? It's like, you know, they've already said we've had regime change. Well, yeah, to what the exact same thing. Yeah, it's my whole point. It's the exact same people. So you need to kill this level of God. If you're talking about succeeding, you had to kill the first level of government, the second, the third, the fourth, the fifth, the sixth, the seventh. No, the entire regime has to be gone. By stopping, as he did 10 weeks ago, the loyalists rise to the top. You can't have any loyalists standing. Period. You can't. Because remember, your goal was unconditional surrender from them. Yep. He said it. We did. Yeah. 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The emergency resolution from Hempstead Township comes just days after the New York state legislature passed a bill that would replace mother with the term gestating parent and father with non gestating parent. It would also change paternity to parentage. Democrats say the measure is an effort to be more inclusive of the state's residents with non traditional gender identities. It is now waiting action from Democrat Governor Kathy Hockel and to show you how important that was, we would play the audio cut of Hockel what about a week ago. And she just said, well, I don't know about the bill and we'll all decide that later on and she wouldn't answer the question. You know, if you were to take this to the national level to the federal level, that would mean that on our biggest of bombs, we'd have to change that to the gestating parent of all bombs. You couldn't call it the Moab. That it just complicates so many things. And by the way, it's just stupid. Let's start with reality. It's just stupid. Why you gestating parent F word. That's right. That's going to say that when we first did this story. That's going to change one curse word dramatically. Yes, it will take the impact out of it dramatically as Mitch head Berger used to say, you can't have an argument and a tent because you can't slam the flap shot. Well, you're going to take all of the steam out of that one curse word. Hempstead Township Supervisor John Ferretti told Fox News Digital the legislation is woke nonsense as a father or two. It was an insult to me and to my wife already said in an interview. As soon as I learned the first thing I did was bring my wife into our bedroom and said, look what they did up in Albany. They're eliminating the terms mother and father from state law. That's not very romantic. His nine year old daughter overheard the conversation and got upset asking her non gestating parent. Can I still call you dad? It really hit close to home. He continued. We need to take a stand in the town of Hempstead, the largest township in America and make sure I'm not really sure what that means by the way, and make sure that we make it clear because it's been said over and over again in this article, the largest township in America. Okay, and make sure that we make it clear to not just the residents of the town of Hempstead, but to residents throughout New York state that we won't stand for this kind of woke nonsense. While the 2026 legislative session ended last week, Huckle has until the end of the year to sign the bill into law. Huckle told reporters last week she had not yet reviewed the proposal because this would take a lot, you know, the review of it. I mean, mother gestating parent, father non gestating parent. That's it. Pretty simple. I need to review this and I need to study this and we need to, we need to all get together with a group of my advisors and take a little blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. She really tries hard to walk that fence. It's not that hard. See, I've known of her for a while because I'm from that area. Then you never have to, you know, use the thing. She may, she may be dumber than Scott Pelley. You know, I don't want to be sexist here. You know, I've got nothing to do. There's got nothing to do with, you know, whether that the fact that she's a, you know, gestating person and he's a non gestating person or whether she's past her prime as Don Lemon would say, we wouldn't say that. Right. He said it. Right. He asked the question one time or made a comment. She passed her prime. Is she passed her, we wouldn't, that would be wrong. I would just say she's old. The, the, the, by the way, that's, that's not unfair. I'm old. No, because you just haven't thrown that at her because she's a woman. You've thrown that at me many times. Yeah. You know what old people are? They're old. We call them old people. Why don't you call me something else? Because the other thing I'm going to call you is, I don't, you're an old person or you're dead, you know, to turn it around. I'm happy that you're old. I don't think you're past your prime. I keep hoping you get better. There's always room for improvement. Look, I don't know she's passed her prime. I know she's old. She's some older than her. Yeah. How old she? 67. Yeah. She's old. She's a senior. She's old. It's okay to say that. She's a senior. She's old. We don't, we don't bring in, I've seen your governor and I don't bring anything into it except the, the, well, no, the capacity of their mind. She may not be past her prime. I think the people of New York are hoping it gets better. The supervisor said the emergency resolution in Hempstead is intended to ensure the town continues to recognize the term mother and father in its own laws and policies. Regardless of whether the state measure ultimately becomes law. We're taking a stand because we will not allow woke Democrat liberals in New York state and the New York state, state legislature to erase a traditional family. They did not pass a law that adds language. They passed a law that erases mother and father from certain statutes under New York state law. And that is completely unacceptable. If Albany wants to add additional language to their state laws, they could have added additional language and we would not be discussing this right now. Instead, they chose to erase mother and father and replace it and we won't stand for that. Yeah. So the resolution has guarded support among Republican lawmakers representing Nassau County, including the assembly minority leader and, and, and others, which in New York state really means Diddly and Squaw. Exactly. What the Republicans think. Yeah. See, as in Kathy Hockel's New York, mom is now defined as gestating parent. Well, as one one legislator said, the fight marks the latest cultural flashpoint involving Hempstead, a Republican led township of roughly, Oh, no wonder it's a township of 800,000 residents in Long Island. That's the country's largest township. I heard that on the radio a few minutes ago. Well, not that that impresses me 800,000. Now that you are the largest. I don't know of another town larger than 800,000. Well, can they shouldn't they graduate to a city ship? Yep. And within Nassau County, Hempstead officials previously backed measures, including a push to keep biological males from competing in girls and women's sports. So there you go. But yeah, that's what it is. But the point is, they're not going to stop, which is why we are so passionate and critical of Republicans and the administration when they do something that we believe could result in them losing in November. Yeah. Because the other side on the issues are insane. There's so much stuff that you can put in your ads, so much material to just fill your ads, them and their own words. All you need is an editor. A 10 year old YouTuber could put your ads together. Yeah. I'm looking at this here said Maggie McNeely with Concern Women for America Legislative Action Committee. It's just absurd, but also inherently dehumanizing. It reduces women to just their reproductive organs, but women are so much more than that. They are individuals with unique abilities and capabilities. And yes, motherhood is one of the greatest things that a woman can be. Being a mother is an incredible gift. No, I mean, she hits it right there. That's the point. Mom isn't just about giving birth. You know, I told the story last week, about a week ago, maybe a little longer than that, I talked to an old boss of mine who's liberal, but always said I'm not a crazy liberal when I worked from decades ago. And I had total editorial control and everything else. He hired me. He's the one that hired me. He liked what I, he, he, you know what he said? He goes, your audience likes you. That's why he hired me. And this goes back a long time ago. But we got into a conversation. We don't very often. I mean, we never really got into a political conversation, you know, since we really worked together. And he just started egging me on about, you know, this is on, you know, messaging back and forth. And I was just, you know, playing with them, whatever. And he goes, well, what do you think? What do you think? You know, because he was saying, you know, would I vote for Talarico over Paxton? And I said, no, I go, look, here's why I'm one vote for a Democrat. And I laid it all out. And I put, and I think, number one, when I said identity politics is the racism of the Democratic party, the institutionalized racism and the radical transgender movement is as misogynist and sexist as anything that I've ever seen in, in my life. And, and I said, you, you basically, the misogyny and, and I think he really got upset. I think I really got him upset. And I told him what I don't like about Republicans and what I disagree with the administration about, because I'm, you know, I, I tell people what I believe. I don't care what party you're in. Right. If you're wrong, you're wrong. Yeah. And we can have the debate, whether I'm right, as we always do, whether I'm right or you're right, or we're both right or whatever. But the, the, the fact is, I've never seen, and, and I dare anybody, you know, you know, to defend and say what the Democrats have done with the radical transgender movement isn't the most misogynist and sexist thing that has happened in this country in, I don't know, maybe 80 years when it comes to women. Yeah. It's absolutely horrible what they have done. It actually became the women's rights issue. But I laid out, you know, where I stand on the issues and where I disagree with both parties, but where I agree with both parties and the fact that I will still always vote Republicans because of the insanity of those issues with the Democrats. And he just goes, wrote something, then about an hour later, he wrote back to me, he goes, did you just cut and paste that because that just sounds like, you know, mega doctrine. I just went, oh my God, he's angry after all these years, he still doesn't get what you do for a living. Yeah, he doesn't know he doesn't. I know I think I got to him because I accused the party that he supports of institutionalizing racism, misogyny and sexism, which is what Democrats believe they're completely against, yet it's exactly what they're for. He should listen to the show. Yeah, I agree. We only mandate that you listen every night, the entire show every night. That's all we care about. And listen to the replay because there may be something you miss. So listen to the podcast during the day. If you stay up all night, if you can't stay up all night, quit your job. But it's right there. Reduces women to just to reproductive organs. And we've seen, like I said, the radical transgender movement is even worse than this. Yeah. Right. Complete total misogyny and sexism. Yeah, we are Red Eye Radio. We'll be right back with more Red Eye Radio with Eric Carly and Gary McNamara. We are Red Eye Radio. He's here. Carly and I'm Gary McNamara. I see Stephen A. Smith and the president are going back and forth. Yeah. I added Stephen A. Smith said the president should have gone to the New York Knicks game last week and then boom, it's been back and forth. Trump latest one called him a low IQ individual and not that smart. And just for entertainment purposes, I would like to get two of them in the same room together. Oh, I'd love that. I'd love that. Hey, if you can do a deal with Iranians, you could do a deal with Stephen A. Smith. Come on. Oh, my God. That would be fun. And where would it be? He's an arrogant fool and a low IQ individual. He's sort of of Stephen A. Smith. I'd love that to happen. Just put both of them in a room and go. Yeah. That's the cage match they should have at the White House. Oh, there you go. Yeah. Just have a big debate fest.