9-1-1, where is the emergency? It's the middle of the night in a small town on the Jersey Shore. Someone reports an abandoned car on a bridge. A search gets underway for the missing driver, 19-year-old Sarah Stern. Is it a missing person? Is it a suicide? At this point nobody knows. Old friendships, buried cash, and a sinister plot that was once pitched as a movie plays out in real life. I'm Ju-Ju Chang from 2020 and ABC Audio. Listen now to Bridge of Lies, wherever you get your podcasts. How is House Kettle Corn compete with your rivals? You like it? Is it the new favorite? Or is it... I like it. Alright, you know. This is good. Alright, it is... we have cheese too. We're very prepared. It has been weeks since you've been on the podcast. It's been a very long time. No, it's two weeks. The numbers are plummeting without you. Oh, I'm telling you. People are furious. They're talking to me. I was missing last week. That's all. Well, then the week before you were out and then... Oh, I was out. Yeah. Yeah. You were out for a long time and when Joy Bayhard misses a show, it is big news here. Why? I don't exactly know, but what we said, you weren't feeling well and suddenly there's headlines everywhere. Joy missing for six days, seven days, no response. Any insight you want to give anybody? It's snowed and it was cold and you didn't want to come. No, I had a lot of reasons. I told you. We had a couple of kids in the family. Had the... not kids. My son and Lauren and his son both had the flu. I had to take care of that. Well, I didn't feel well. Yeah. I was two degrees. I think it was all the last one. I think you're like, I don't want to get out of the house though. Right before that big snow storm happened, I said... If you're going to accuse me of that, then every time I'm sick, you're going to say, it's not true. So just go with the truth. Just go with the truth. Just believe me. Whatever I say is the truth. All right. So what's been going on in your life the last few weeks? Besides my play. Yes, of course you play. What play is that, Joy? My first sex husband, which by the way, will be this week out, Valentine weekend. This is exciting. It's an interesting... I'm going to talk about this on my show on Friday. Here. Yes, on the view. Because I think people should know that it's a great idea for Valentine's Day because it's all about divorce. Yes, of course. Do you and Steve celebrate Valentine's Day at any way? No, my husband is a very romantic guy. Yeah. So he'll bring me flowers. He always has flowers and he likes to go out and... I always do that too. I always do that too. My first husband was not as romantic. Because he was more of a... He believed that it was trumped up holiday that sort of a stereotype to women as soft and romantic and silly. He didn't believe in Valentine's Day. It was a... he's a feminist, of course. Yeah, yeah. What am I? The raging bull? I don't know. All right, but do you like it or do you roll your eyes at stuff like Valentine's? Yeah. I like it. Yeah, I like it too. One time when I was younger, I had a party and everybody had to come on Valentine's Day as a dysfunctional couple. Yes. Do I ever tell you that? No. So Steve and I went as masters in Johnson, the sex therapist. Oh, of course. Yeah. A friend of mine went as Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers. Not that they were married. Yeah. But the best one was somebody who came as Dr. Kavorkian and one of his patients. And he actually had a wheelchair that he brought to my house. Oh, wow. Yeah, it was a really good party. I like a theme party. I like a theme party too. I had one I had one traumatic Valentine's Day that I still bring up to my wife because she was a culprit at it. When we were first dating, we started dating in January. And in February, I thought we were exclusively dating. We had never stated that at that point. Oh, but when I went to pick her up for Valentine's Day for our date, I discovered that she had double booked and she was being dropped off from her daytime date to meet me for our evening date. She was playing the field. She was playing the field. She was an exclusive. No, it hurt though. I'm not going to lie. It was a rough one. I had said flowers. I think the other guy felt he probably was pissed off. He was smirking the whole time. I don't know. He seemed fine with it. Yeah, but you're the one who won. You won her eventually. But yeah, it took some time. After that, I said to her, I said, you know, I'm not really comfortable with you dating multiple people. I think you have to make a decision. Yeah. And she said, oh, I'm sorry. You feel that way and too bad. Too bad. Goodbye. Yeah, I was like, well, wait a minute. Hold up a minute. Let's bring the good thing. No, you're a cheap date. I'm a cheap date. Yeah. Gosh. So my show, my first six husband is going to be the George Street Theater in New Brunswick, New Jersey. This weekend coming up, Valentine's weekend. I will be in it. Vianne Cox in Adrian Moore. Oh, great. And it's the three of us. And we do seven monologues about divorce. Oh, true stories. You know that, right? Yeah. And you do a little bit of a little standup kind of thing in the top. I do a little thing in the front. And then we do our monologues. Now, I've seen the show is great. And if you're a Joy Bayhara fan, you're going to love every one of these things. Well, they're funny. Yeah. I mean, it gives people who come to see it a feeling of they're not alone in the world of divorcees. Yeah. That a lot of people get divorced. And if you have perspective on it, you can laugh at it. I know that they're all true stories, but at the same time, they have Joy Bayhara flaring around them. Yeah, they're definitely, there's a reason these stories jumped out at you. Let's go. Yeah, I mean, people don't talk in a dramatic form. No, no, I do sometimes. All right, speaking of drama, a list is in labor. I know. This is very exciting. She's popping today. Yeah, she was supposed to, so she was on the podcast yesterday. She talked about it today. It was supposed to be her last show. Oh, give people some behind the scenes. Yeah, so yesterday, we knew it was her, it was her last show. Yeah. And we were in a meeting and I said, you know, we should do something to like send her off. We should have like a nice moment. Oh, yeah. And we had these confetti cannons, these blue confetti cannons that were left over from her baby shower that we didn't get to use. Oh, and I was, I was like, very excited. I was going to do that. I was going to do it at act six today. I was at the end of the show. I said, well, say, you know, you're not alone out there. And Alyssa hit the cannons and boom. It was going to be a great moment. And then I heard from our team that we did not have the cannons. The cannons were on a truck to to the caucus New Jersey. No, it wasn't a fate. Well, well, well, hold on. But then miracles happened. Enza got the trucks back. She arranged everything. And then minutes after she came back, it said, we got it done. We've got the cannons. I get the text from Alyssa. I'm having contractions. I'm going to the hospital. So now the cannons are here. I don't know what to do with them. I thought maybe, uh, Well, when I retire from the show, you can use the blue confetti. I figured if, if, if, uh, Alyssa announces she's had the baby during the show, we'll just fire the cannons randomly. That's a good idea. That's not bad. Meanwhile, summer, one of our crack producers sends me a note at five o'clock last night. Can you please whip up a lasagna for Alyssa? I wasn't involved in that conversation too. As if I have all the ingredients, plus, you know, it just suddenly come up with a lasagna out of the blue. In our minds, your fridge is nothing but lasagna. It's just stack of lasagna is ready to go at all times. That's how you exist in our mind. So no, yeah, I, I, I, Well, if I had done a lasagna, it would have been for no it. Yes, it would have been for no reason at all. But next time you want to surprise somebody with something, give me a little notice. You did say you'd make her a lasagna for the baby. I know, but I did say that, didn't I? Yes, you did. Hold on, I'm going to read the text you wrote back to, to, to summer about the lasagna is because she sent it to me. And I remember laughing for some time. Or here you go. All right, this was your response to getting the text from summer. Are you kidding? I don't whip these things up out of thin air. So it was worth a shot. It was worth. All right, so now we're going to have some guest co-hosts. Yes, they're going to be filling in for Alyssa while she's out. You've been through many, many, many people to table being at the table. These are not auditions. They're just filling in. Right. But what's your advice for folks that are filling in? Well, they're all Republicans, right? They have different viewpoints. Some of them don't classify themselves strictly Republicans. Some of them almost do. They're not liberal Democrats. They're not going to agree with you on a lot of stuff. That's fine. I like and liberal. I love that. It's fine. I like that. In fact, I think it'll be fun. Don't take it too much to heart if everybody else disagrees with you. Yeah, no, it's a conversation. Yeah, hold your own and don't get mad. Yeah, exactly. It's just business. It's not personal. That's right. Exactly. The Godfather answers everything. That would be my advice. And don't step on your jokes, of course. Do not. Yes. Under any circumstances, step on joy's jokes. It takes people a moment to realize the wind up in the pitch. Yeah. That's the thing. You know, the thing we did for Alyssa where we gave her advice. Yeah, that was so much fun. That was great. And my advice was that be aware of the fact that your boobs are going to drop. Yeah. People online are like, well, that's not very good. I mean, don't they realize it's a joke? She loved it. It was great. I mean, people understood. Somebody did write. She's a comedian. Hello. It's like, you know, the people online, they're all anonymous, which annoys me. I know you really shouldn't read it. Go to bed. Once in a while, I read it, but mostly I'm not. You know, we announced all these people coming on and our fans has always had strong reactions to it, but there was a lot of reaction to Elizabeth Hasselbeck, which surprised me a little bit because she's, don't get me wrong. Elizabeth has controversial takes occasionally and fashion takes, but you two worked together for 10 years. We did. And overall, got along. That's fine. Yeah. She's a good kid. That's what I said. She's a good kid. Yeah. And, you know, I don't know. She got a lot of negative for the thing. Well, people are like, I can't believe Elizabeth is coming back. It wasn't. Would they feel the same way about Rosie? I'm sure. Yes, I'm sure, but they're not. Who else were, or Michelle, or Rosie Perez? I don't know. I think it's, it's, it's Rosie and Elizabeth probably are the ones that get that kind of reaction. Really? Yeah. But, um, yeah, but you worked with her for 10 years and disagreed all the time. It was only 10. No, she's, uh, she's, she's a nice kid. She comes from a very nice family. Actually, parents and Democrats. Really? So I don't know where she comes up with this Republican position, but she, I think maybe a husband that when she got married, she became more conservative. Oh, it'll be interesting to have her on to see what that's like and see if she's, you know, it's like riding a bike. I'm sure being on the view. You left and came back. What was that like? It's no big deal. All right. We had, uh, Supreme Court Justice Katanjee Brown Jackson with us today. She was our first guest in the studio, which is pretty cool. Um, she was back. What were your takeaways? I'm always taken and tell me if you disagree with this. Yeah. For someone who, and I've read her to sense, she is a tough cookie. There's no question. She is a strong, tough person. When you meet her in person, she is so disarming and charming and lovely. Yeah. And lovely. Well, she separates her job from her personality. Yeah. I'm sure there were people out there thinking, well, it was a dignified for us. Supreme Court Justice to put on an outfit and dance around in Broadway and to show up at the Grammys like, Masha Blackburn is all bent out of shape. Give it a rest. You know, first of all, I appreciate somebody who is well-rounded. Yeah. And when they have a particularly, uh, demanding job like the Supreme Court, you know, somebody says to me, well, you don't see, uh, Justice Roberts jumping around on Broadway stage. Well, maybe he should. Maybe he should. You know, I know, Simon Hamilton. Yeah. Maybe all of them should have another kind of outlet instead of being so focused on the law. Yeah. Well, I mean, I just, I enjoy having her here very much. I also enjoy the tap dance because Justice is when they come on. They can't give their opinions on any of this stuff. Yeah. And, you know, to a point we're not supposed to press them, but you can't ever help yourself. Yeah. Which is keep, you know, yeah, but uh, but uh, but uh, but uh, but uh, but uh, but uh, they seem amused by it. I think it would be hard for her to be in this dissent all the time. She is mostly. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, as will be the, uh, the replacement co-host that we have on here. Yeah, that's true. 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A hour before he died he was on a phone arguing what's about this might be a hit. You want the truth? They just want a conviction. In place of your rest. We had a killer amongst us. Murder at the U. Listen now. All right. Did you watch the Super Bowl? I went in and out. My kids, everybody in the family was watching it. Okay. I was in the other room watching a British movie. Not a Nazi movie this time. Oh, look at you. You're growing. You know, there's a kid who works here who's one of the guards. And I told him I was going to be watching a Nazi movie. And he's like, really? What? Tell me who they, he got so interested in it. So I told him I would make a list of all the movies about World War II that I watch. You should share them on the podcast too. I think people would like to hear it. All right. I'll make a list. Yeah. Your top 10 World War II movies. Well, my first one would be down down fall. Yeah. Which everyone should watch. Have you seen it? I have. And it's become a popular meme too. I know. People yelling because Hitler was out of his mind and this as usual. They changed the subtitle. Yeah. It's pretty funny. Yeah. All right. Well, this feels like the closest you've actually come to watching the Super Bowl that it was on in the same house. Usually you're... I want to see what bad bunny was going to do. And what'd you think? I mean, I enjoy that. Yeah. You know, was it like an extravaganza? Yeah. One of your favorite artists, Lady Gaga, was the fun. Oh, I love that. I'm gonna show it up. Yeah. She sang a really good tune or whatever it was. Yeah. So that's good. I was following the Spanish subtitles. Oh, okay. That was fun to gel. Oh, I didn't think about that. I didn't think about trying that. So who would be for you? Because there's a lot of controversy about what makes a good Super Bowl performer. Yeah. For you, who would be the ideal Joy Bay Har Super Bowl performer? I have my guess. But guess who? Michael Bubley. Bubley. Your guy. Bubley and the Eagles. Oh, together. Yes. I have it on my... I want to go see the Eagles. Now, I know that they're in Vegas right now. At the sphere, they were at the sphere. But it's finished pretty much there. Yeah. And certainly I can't just take off for Las Vegas. Can't you? Biggest try. Where else are they gonna be? I'll look at you. You know what Patty LaPone is gonna be in Ridgefield, Connecticut. I want to go see her. Well, you've seen her a million times, haven't you? No, a few times. I love her. She's wonderful. She's amazing. She's a legend. And Bubley, I saw it Radio City. He was incredible. I've seen Bubley a couple times. My wife had been here. I think that was it. Madison Square Garden. I also saw Tina Turner at Madison Square Garden. That's unbelievable. Well, you know, I'm so old that I saw Tina Turner when she was married to Ike. Oh, wow. And they had the Ikex and everything. It was unbelievable, shall we? All right. So what's the best concert going experience you ever had? Besides Tina Turner. Yeah. And Michael Bubley. Those are the ones. I can't think of anybody better than those. All right. That's a good one. Yeah. Well, when I was a kid, I went to see a Frankie Lyman in the teenagers. Would you remember the first concert you ever saw? I think it might have been that at the Brooklyn Paramount. And those days you'd get out in the up in the island and start dancing. It was so much fun to be a teenager at that time. My first concert in it's embarrassing. But my first concert was Paula Abdul, open for by UB40, because that puts you in it. And it was 1995. So there you go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. That's it. All right. Travis Kelsey. You know Travis Kelsey. Who was he again? He's engaged with Taylor Swift. He's a future hallfamer. Uh, they're engaged. Oh, they're engaged. Right. Travis Kelsey was on his sister-in-law Kylie's podcast. They were talking about how his fiance, Taylor Swift, has made him better at conversations during social events, really making the effort to connect with friends and ask questions and actually remember the details. Can you relate to that? Because you're someone who in a social setting, you know, you're very famous. People come up to you, want to talk to you. It can be hard to connect, but you're naturally curious about people. I am. That's why I'm a good interviewer. Yeah. I like to interview people. I'm nosy. Yes. I guess you could say. But I think you actually almost enjoy a social gathering more than most people I know, I think. I'm also very, very much a loner too. I can stay in my house and not see anybody for two weeks, three weeks. Yes, I've noticed this at a time. I can. And watch movies and do some writing. But at a party, I feel like you're, you're asking lots of questions. You're digging into people. Well, you know, I go to dinner parties now. Right. And they're always like about 10 people, let's say, or 15 people around the table. And they're pretty hot-shocked people sometimes, you know. And so there are interesting conversations that go on. I'm not the star of the table. I go with people who are way more accomplished than I am. Like, like Supreme Court justices, for example. All right. Well, so when do you enjoy those situations? I do. Yeah, especially if the food's good. When you come out with Steve, do you feel like without you, he can tell a good story on his own? Yeah, she's pretty good. I mean, he's not like shy or anything. But he doesn't talk that much though. Heather's good too. We've got our stick one we're out together. Yeah, we're entertaining. It's just a needle in each other and tell an old stories. And she embarrassing me with stories of things I did. Who talks more? You were her. At a dinner? Yeah. It's pretty close. You know, we're not that dissimilar. I think probably me, but it's close. Yeah. She's got her repertoire. She's got like five or six killer stories about me embarrassing myself. I see. She will pull out every time. She's always there. It does not make her happier than a story about that. I mean, did you see today how Katanji, Justice Katanji has so happily married to that man with socks on that as his power picture on him? Yes. Because he is her champion. And he is her, she's her, she's a chewing squad. Yes. Her cheerleader. I don't have that exactly in my relationship. What about you? It's kind of your cheerleader. She was like that. Yeah. He doesn't have my, I think that I'm going to go home and complain to him that he needs a pair of socks with my picture on it. I think so. I think he'd wear them though with pride. I don't know about that. I've got socks with my dogs picture on him. I wear those on the one hand. Those are cute. Yeah. I can do that. Right. But I mean, do you have like, but as far as being sociable. Yeah. You know, the New York Times called me compulsive, a compulsive mood lightener. Because there'll be some stuff going on and then I'll come in with something to change the tone. That does happen. Okay. That is how I was raised. I was, my mother and father would be arguing about something. Or we'd be at dinner with a bunch of relatives and they'd be, and all of a sudden, I'd come in with something and break the change the mood. We're not dissimilar in that way. I try to do the same thing. It's just an instinctive thing. It's instinctive. Yes. And I think that when you talk about being sociable at an event, that is my role too, which is my role in the show. But you know, you don't realize all this unconscious behavior from your childhood. I also don't mind, I mean, I don't, I don't look for social gatherings. I'm kind of like you. I don't mind being alone and not doing something. For me, like, I have to be a little, especially because it work in other places. I have to be outgoing. I have to do this. Yeah. So sometimes I, I kind of, the mirror a little bit. You know, there's one friend of mine who has these parties all the time. And he has this, he'll go out on his patio and do the drinks and then there's dinner. So I showed up at some point with Steve and he said, go outside and have a drink. I said, I don't really feel like going outside my hair or fur or something. And he said, if you behave like this, I'm not going to invite you anymore. Oh, well. And I said to him, do you really think I care? Do you really for a moment think that I care that you're not going to invite me here? As if I have no other place to go is if I have no other friends to see. Well, when Steve goes out with his friends, does he ever come back with anything good? Does he have any? No, no, I, I, please. So would you talk about? No, nothing. Nothing. One time one friend of his told him some, some thing that he had done. And I said, what? He actually told you something with substance. I don't think they have it. I don't know what they talk about. Men's conversations are over my head. Really? What do you guys talk about? It's a lot about sports. Sports. Yeah, it's a lot about sports. Yeah, it's not over your head. It's just out of your interest. But I mean, when women talk, we talk about what's in our guts. We talk about how we feel. We talk about what's going on in our heads. You just gossip around here. I hear you talking to people here. That's all of it. Well, this is friends of the road. Okay. But friends of the heart, you, you spilled your guts. All right. I guess so. Yeah, but men, because they're scared to say it, I feel sorry for you in a way. For men, I do. I think that you should practice that a little bit more. Travis Kelsey called it Girl Questions. Girl questions. Really? What is that? No, you're back with him. Yeah. Well, we're still on the topic. What do you mean Girl Questions? This is what he's learned through his relationship with Taylor and being social and asking real questions about how people see all. So he's trying to remember and listen. He's growing. Yeah. One of the things that keeps marriages together is real conversations. Right. How do you feel today? What are you doing? You seem down in the mouth today. Do you want me to do you need a night out? Do you want to go out and have a dinner? At a certain point, though, I do think people in a marriage get tired of, like Heather doesn't want to hear about what's going on at the view anymore. She doesn't. Yeah. Like, you know, really? I don't think I've told her a story about working in weeks. Do you come home and tell Steve? Like, you know, no. Not much, but he watches the show. Yeah. And he'll say, what about someone so today? She seemed like she was annoyed with everyone. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. I'll say, well, I'm not making this up. No, yeah. Well, yeah, she was annoyed because ABC and me. And that's behind the scene stuff. He likes that. Oh, yeah. Heather doesn't like that. No, she does. She'll like that. She was excited that Alyssa went into labor. She was very happy about that. That was good. But I mean, if you see something going on with us, you should tell her. I think I will. Would you even pay attention to that? I know more about you guys. I know. Talk about your girl questions. I know more about what's going on with the six of you than I know that anything else in my life. You mean between us. Between you. What's going on with you personally? Oh, I know. I really too much. All right. That's all I got. That's it. Thank you for joining me today. I don't know that you have anything for TV and this. I'm confused. The summer says we're good. I know people enjoy our report. Summer is the one who wanted that lasagna list. I know. I'm going to trust her. I'm going to trust her. But Enza got the confetti cannons. If I can... Enza, why don't you make a lasagna for the Carol? Let me tell you. If I had the confetti cannons right now, it fired them. So something happened on this podcast. That'd be pretty good. All right. Thank you for joining me today. Joy. Tomorrow. I'm back with Sarah. You know what? I was thinking about this. It's been a while since I've asked. Subscribe to the YouTube. Give us a review. Five stars on the podcast. Give us little ratings. I like the bump. It helps. People notice. Thank you. She's still walking away. I'm still on TV. Anyway, watch it. Hello. I get no respect.
