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These are making a comeback. I think. Discover is accepted at 99% of places that take credit cards nationwide. Based on the February 2025 Nielsen Report. He got one. Listen, man, you're now tuned into me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, million dollars worth of games. Yes. You see who we with? But first of all, before we even get this started, I got to say something because when we walk into this building, somebody else would have been here and I'd have been trading some game with them, but they not here, but they is here. Rest in peace to Klay. We're going to establish that. Rest in peace to Klay. Me and Klay would have been on the side chopping it. He'd have been talking that talk to me, telling Tip, come on, man, come on. He'd have been bossing everybody around. We just want something to eat, Wallow? I got this spot. I know this. Man, the energy, his energy is greatly missed, but it's still here. I see it when I see everybody. Everybody that was ever connected to you Clay, I see it, man When I see your son When I see Duval When I see Tip When I see Snake Everybody I see, I see you So you still out here, man And we love you Yes, sir It's incredible It's been some years But we talking about We talking about a lot today First importantly We talking about Atlanta We talking about the music We talking about the family We talking about We just talking about so much Talking about the A We talking about the A But it's real important when you have somebody like Tip that you can't go over and not talk about the A and the attack on the A. What the A did for music, for culture, for so many years, it came and it carried it on its back. It carried it on its back for years, but for some reason it seemed like some people didn't like that. They was there celebrating. They was dancing to the songs. They was connecting with the culture. They were still in the lingo. They was doing all that. But somehow it was something in them. Resentment was building up. So now when certain events happen, you just see just a crash, take down where everybody got something to say, but everybody benefited off it because it was a soundtrack to eras. It was a soundtrack to summers. It was a soundtrack to hardship. It was a soundtrack to something special. But it seemed like people forgot that tip. And what is it about? Man, I think envy. A lot of it is envy. And, you know, some of it is, you know, through success, it's going to be trials, tribulations. It's going to be obstacles to overcome. And right now, those obstacles are being filmed. You know what I'm saying? Like, there was a time motherfuckers could handle their business, to deal with shit and it don't be on a public forum. And now it's like everybody got access to all the business and spread and just really getting them up, getting their shit down below and shit. Everybody deserves to have their opinion, man, but I don't think, man, forming no blanket opinion on everybody that's from somewhere, I don't think that don't allow us the consideration we deserve. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? On a case-by-case collar, how you see it, whatever. But then just got there, trying to group the whole town up. I ain't going. I think, but what I see is, what's so crazy is, like you said, it's case-by-case, but it's also case by case on the people that's targeting that type of energy because the fans still here. Well, you know, but when you become, for lack of a better word, noteworthy. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? When a motherfucker talking about something that got something to do with the town, that shit getting clicks. Yeah. You know what I mean? So it behooves them to speak on us, and they just going with whatever the – okay, so now, you know how they say perception is reality. Okay, that's to motherfuckers who don't really live in reality. You know, people can shape perception and make it reality to someone who will never live the reality. You know what I mean? So that's what motherfuckers doing. Motherfuckers more worried about trying to present what it looked like instead of worrying what it is like. You know what I mean? And that's kind of how I try to focus my attention on what it is like. That what it looked like shit, man. that shit gonna come and go. You gonna be somewhere standing around looking stupid. Tell me, oh I thought this. Just like, you know back when we were little, how they used to show us Africa. You know what I'm saying? When they show us Africa, they used to show it like, you know, on some primitive. Flows on kids' faces. Yeah, yeah. And then when we finally got a chance to go, we was like, man, they been bullshitting all this time. You feel me? By you, they was bullshitting back then because they was like, for just 27 cents a day, we could feed. I'm like, 27? Who the fuck they eating? That's the biggest scam in the world, man. You know what? What do Atlanta mean to you? And how did Atlanta impact the world? What does Atlanta mean? Atlanta mean home to me. You know what I mean? Atlanta is the fundamental foundation of my, I won't even say success. I say of my energy. You know what I mean? My energy is that of an Atlanta nigga. You know what I mean? It's refined and reformed, but it's still the energy of Atlanta, nigga. And that shit, they'll kind of, when we had an opportunity to present that shit to the world, the world ate it up. You know what I mean? They had seen New York, nigga, before. They had seen LA, nigga, before. They were kind of familiar with Chicago, niggas, even Texas. But when Atlanta got in, I said, hey, it's another flavor out here. Damn motherfuckin' the world ate that shit up. Why is it that, like, why is it that when the door opened for Atlanta, everybody kept opening the door like they held the door open for others? And you have, you play a pivotal part in a lot of people's careers. Not just making phone calls, making introductions for people. We're bred there in Atlanta, that people look out for each other. That's the Atlanta way, you know what I mean? That's the Atlanta way. if you from the town and you need some, you're going to call somebody else from the town who knows somebody else from the town. They're going to get what you need, regardless. You know what I mean? That's just the Atlanta way, whether that's a, it could be a ticket to the Falcon game. It could be a motherfucking record deal. It could be, you know, a certain kind of car. Whatever it is. Hey, man, I'm looking for such a, such a, such a. Word? Hold on. You know what I mean? Hey, man, didn't your cousin over there from the south side say he had such a, such a, such a? But, hey bro, I got it over here right now, man. Pull up. You know what I mean? That's just the Atlanta weight. That's how we operate. Rob Markman When I think of Atlanta, I think of a family, like your family. You know, because us being from the North, it's like everybody got family down South. And Atlanta is ... When I think of hip hop, I think of ... Hip hop belongs to everybody that come from the struggle. That's our soundtrack to get through the hardships of our life. But when I think of Atlanta, I think of just family members down the South. And for me being around, you know, when you're in the outside of the industry and you don't really see what really goes on. Me, I done been in rooms where everybody be in a room together. Right. And I done seen the brotherhood that take place down here. But what keeps the brotherhood together when the outsiders come and try to tear it up? What keeps it together? Man, first of all, and I'm just going to speak on my experience. Everybody I know from Atlanta love themselves. You know what I mean? Like all the niggas that's rapping and shit like these niggas, that company, that come from a love of themselves first. You know what I mean? If you don't respect yourself, if you don't love yourself, then you ain't gonna, you know what I mean? You ain't gonna have no love or respect for nobody else. So I think that's where it come from. Like, I done seen some motherfuckers this, like for instance, like, you know, let's just say, I'll say one of the most thrilled of us all, you know, Gucci, right? And Gucci, you know, he have a moment where he, you know what I mean? We all do. But you can still tell that this nigga love his self. Like, he thinks highly of himself. And him thinking highly of himself, then he going to be able to have a better vision of how to think highly of others. You feel me? Absolutely. And that's, I think, that's what it start with in Atlanta. If you could say right now anything to anybody in Atlanta that, how can I say, anybody that might don't see eye to eye this time, what advice could you give them for the future? Man, fuck that shit, keep pushing. That's all it is to do. Any situation, fuck that shit, keep pushing, man. Just keep pushing. You know, we ain't going to always get along. You know what I mean? It's shit that has grown. Because really what we doing out here is growing up together. You feel me? If we ain't growing up like as human beings, we growing up in a certain way of life in the industry. Motherfucker, getting the industry together and blow up and grow up together in this shit, it going to be some growing pains. You can't expect, ain't now one or all going to be perfect. You know what I mean? Where you draw the line, where you draw the line. But at the end of the day, bro, shit, man, success is to be celebrated. You know what I mean? Because I respect whatever a nigga doing, keeping him from breaking in my house. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I want you to keep winning, man. Keep winning because that going to keep you from trying to break in my house. You know what I mean? The one thing I noticed about down south when I first came down south and shit, even when I was fucking with Draper down in Houston. The South mentality is just way different from up North. The people was way nicer. They was like, up North we had this aggressive energy. You feel what I'm saying? Why was that? I don't know. I really don't know. I'm from a city where 80% of the city is just mad for no motherfucking reason at all. Like we just, niggas is just some mad motherfuckers. I think that comes from the absence of success and resources. That's probably what it is. Because let's be for real, we one of the poorest cities. And then on top of that, right, like when I first got to the A, we would be in certain hoods. And I wouldn't even know it was the fucking hood. Because they shit didn't look like our shit. our shit is there's a house here and then right next to that motherfucker's another house there's no space them bitches is touching and the block is this long there's this wide or one car can guy down that bitch and it's a hundred houses on this side and there's a hundred houses on this side and it's like if it's five five motherfuckers live in each house man that's motherfucking how many niggas live on one block man and then it's the next block is the same thing and then and the next block is the same thing. So it's just niggas on top of niggas. Ain't no backyard. Ain't no, like, I grew up in a place where I'm like, think about it, I'm like, we don't even got trees, man. They had some trees. Yeah, I had some trees. Ain't no fucking trees in North Philly, man. We ain't no trees around 80 Avenue, man. They had to have some, and they throw the sidewalk. No the fuck it wasn't, bro. It's like one on the block. You lying. Talk, let's go to Park Ave. It ain't no fucking trees on Park Ave. on the block. I pull that shit up on green maps. Y'all ain't got no green space? Fuck no. We don't got no backyards. We don't got no porches. None of that shit. Where y'all had your barbecues at? At Fairmount Park. We got to go to a house barbecue. I mean, you'll be out on the block the same way you motherfuckers go swimming. No, ain't no going swimming. You turn the fucking water plug on on the block and everybody jumping that bitch and then if it's a fire the house is fucked up because there ain't no water left in that motherfucker. I done got them. I done experienced, you know, the fire hydrant shit up in New York in the summer in Harlem. You couldn't believe that shit, could you? I mean, brother, to be honest with you, it just became like a second home, like a way of life type shit. Yeah, but the first time I just counted two trees on Park Ave, nigga. You fucking lying. There's two trees on Park Ave. Look, look. I just Googled Emerson Cript. This is where I was born at. Look, there's one right there. There's one right there. Oh, that's right. It's Temple University. No, no. and there's one right here. The fuck out of here. Look, look, look. All right, so this is my block. So this is what he talking about. This is where I grew up, man. You see how the house touches? Yeah. You see how the house touches? Yeah. Yeah, this is the block. Yeah, man. And that's a little block. But the trees, I see trees, though. There's one tree. I see a few trees. Look, what's going on in it? They just planted them bitches, man. Not them big motherfuckers. They just planted them bitches years ago, man. You talk a lot. I'm talking about there ain't no trees. There ain't no fucking trees that fill your oxygen fucked up, man. Now, this is what it is. It's like this. All right, so when you think about music, so many crews came up here. So many people, there's so much music to choose from. It's like a library from three stacks all the way to the beginning. It's so many. It just goes Goody Mob all the way to now, and then you came out. You're doing your thing. You went so many different directions after that. And then one day you decide to go in the studio and kill the king, right? Where did that come from? Well, kill the king, I've always known that that was going to be the title of my last album. Back when King of the South was, I guess, the origin or the beginning of it, One thing I wanted to make sure I did was speak to all of my predecessors, all of the OGs that kind of shaped and molded how I view music that I knew from the South, that I had access to. So I asked, you know, Bun B, Big Boy, Three Stacks, Scarface, 8 Ball, MJ. Like, I asked them all. Oh, all the goody, man. T-Mo, Gilt, Kujo, C-Lo. I asked all of them. And, like, I was just like, hey, so, you know what I mean? I think I've decided to call myself the king of the self. And like, how does, you know, that's cool with you? Like, you know what I mean? I made sure that they knew it wasn't out of any line of disrespect. And everybody kind of told me the same thing in a different way, you know what I mean? Like, Scarfette was like, man, shit. I don't want to be king. You can have that shit. Right? I didn't understand it then. Then, you know, Andre 3K says some shit like, well, what does king really mean, young nigga? You know what I'm saying? Like, and everybody was like, well, you got the skill set and, you know, you have the charisma or what have you to carry. But Big Boy told me something that stuck with me. He said, yeah, man, you can say it. Ain't nobody gonna have a problem with you, man. You know, just know that you're gonna be putting a bullseye on your back. You can't be asking for no favors, ain't nobody gonna be ready to do no favors for you." I said, yeah, but you okay with it, right? He said, yeah, I'm straight, you ain't got to worry about me. He said, just know that chess is like life. And the name of the game in chess is The Key of the King. And so right, you know, like I knew then that that would be the name of my last album. And we living in the culture now where that's all they try to do when you come up in the ghettos, kill the king. Well, see, now, also, kill the king, it doesn't mean the literal death of a human being. I know what you're saying. It means, to me, it means killing the ego, starving the ego. You know what I mean? Because, of course, when I made the decision, you know what I'm saying, to call myself can't go to sell it didn't really mean as much to me as it did when people started saying that I couldn't say it so then I kind of like you know I personalized it it became something that I felt I needed to earn and protect and that's when this shit meant something but it also is something that I needed to harness because that persona, it enters the room long before I do. People already got a preconceived notion of what they feel, think, or believe of me because of that before they didn't get a chance to meet me, which got me into a lot of shit. But, you know, there were lessons in that as well. So when you went in there to do this album, what energy did you take in there? Did you call somebody? Did somebody, one of the homies, motivate you? Well, I mean, nah, man, you know, how can I say? So, first of all, I do music all the time. You know what I mean? I got a studio. I hear something to motivate me. Ideas come to my head. You know, I lay shit down all the time, and it just gets to where I've accumulated so much music. You know, eventually people start saying, hey, man, think about putting something out, you know. and it's been years. It's been years and I always said I don't really I just don't really dig the process of like working releasing an album and like you know all the going from this radio station that radio station doing this, doing that. It's important work. I've been doing this shit for fucking 20 years so I enjoy the time in my life where I just can move through, pick my grandbaby up from school. You know what I'm saying? Just go do things that a normal family man would be able to do. You know what I'm saying? And a lot of times I don't get a chance to do that while I'm in an active cycle. So really by just wrapping my mind around just making myself do the shit. You know what I mean? And so here we are. 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You know, when we decided that this is what we were going to do, we hit P, and, you know, P said he let us know, you know, when he was back in the States because he don't live anymore. You know what I mean? Rich nigga. You know what I mean? Gone. Live out there with the long money. Right. Yeah, but he said when he get to the States, you know, for some days he was gonna tap in, and he did. So we shot down to Miami, and he gave us an address, you know what I'm saying? And the address was a boat. A little boat. It was a little boat, and the little boat, it took you off to the big boat. And so we get to the big boat, it's a damn studio on there. You know what I mean? Mic, board, drum machine, speakers. and shit. He started playing beats and we started going. That was your first time recording on the booth? Yeah. Yeah, I was about to say that's some different. That's my first time, bro. That's some different shit. I know you done seen some shit in your life. Yeah, I know. That's crazy when a motherfucker could show you some shit you never seen before. Yeah, hey man, that shit. Did you know y'all was going to record? That's the first time in a long time I did something for the first time. Right, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. You know what I mean? Like, that's some shit When it's like, I thought he was recording, man. You think you went to the building? Yeah, I ain't know what the fuck. I was just there for the ride. Then you get on another boat, and you like, what the fuck? Then you get on the boat, you like, wait, there's a studio on this motherfucker? Yeah, he's a motherfucker with himself. You know what I mean? But shit, man. That was different. It happened. I mean, it happened, and it inspired. I think that's the energy that went into that record probably had a lot to do with the circumstances. All right. You know what I mean? And we got more, too. It's the most shit we did. It's, you know, outstanding. Right. Yeah. When you went in to go make it Let Them Know, what was the direction? It wasn't really... It wasn't one. You know? So Let Them Know, I believe, was the second day we filmed. And so after... I mean, excuse me, was the second day we were recording. After the first day, you know, I said... Because I had my old lady, and we had our own guests. So I was like, well, what we going to do here, I'm going to get another boat. And then I'm going to pull up next to your boat. And I imagined that I'd be able to hop back and forth. You know what I'm saying? Just jumping back and forth. Yeah. So that didn't work quite how I planned it. So we ended up separated some kind of way. So they had to send the little boat to my boat, and I had to get on the little boat and go over to that boat. So I'm like, man, damn, what the fuck happened? And Pharrell just say, hey, listen to this. Like right when I was talking, I was like, hey man, what the fuck I thought we were, he said, hey, listen to this. And the beat was up. I said, oh, okay, you on some shit. Shit. And then we just started, we just started going. That's like, you know when a motherfucker reminds you, you got to get some more money. That's what he just did to me. That nigga said, because I got, I need my own, pull another yacht up next to this motherfucker. But wait a minute. Then we could just hop boots. Yeah, but look, but for real, I own his boat. I just went and rented one for the day. It was a couple thousand, man. It was just a few thousand on mine. This nigga that went, hey man, this nigga went, this nigga went, hey man, this nigga go, this nigga go 115 footer, man. Nigga go. He's nasty. Yeah. Nigga go triple decker, man. Nigga go four, five bedroom, motherfucker, man. Mm. Seeing the reception of the song Shout out to Pharrell Yeah Yeah he a bad motherfucker man Seeing the reception of the song how do you feel to know that you just came and popped it I mean, bro, I'm appreciative. I'm appreciative and, you know, I think that it means something to me that it means something to others. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, to see people, like, inspired and, like, you know, kind of like making all these videos and, you know what I'm saying, got the girls in the tights in the workout rooms and, you know what I'm saying, like, you know, all of the people making it a part of their lives. They putting this song in their daily routines. You know what I mean? And that shit, you know, just to invite me or us into your life like that, that's an honor, and I appreciate it. I seen you call for the verses, man. Man. And you said you called the whole state out. Nah, no idea. You don't want to do it. Anybody up that way, hold on, wait a minute. The whole East Coast, anybody up there fucking way. I mean, yeah, I'm with that, but that wasn't my intention, you know what I'm saying? To give a blanket statement, because to be honest, that was something that's exactly what I'm asking motherfuckers not to do to us. You know what I'm saying? So I try to make a conscious effort to treat motherfuckers the way I want to be treated. You know what I mean? um so you know i i spoke to the motherfucker that i that i wanted to speak to um that that video when i was in the studio talking to kev that shit was years like 2021 type shit that was an old video oh that they resurfaced yeah yeah that was an old video because the shit when the shit first jumped off and it's it crazy hell to me Okay, so first, like, you know, it was really about celebrating each other's catalog. You feel what I'm saying? That was the shit, that was the shit pulled the B-Bot. It pulled the B-Bot, you know, fucking around, doing something with another artist that, you know, that you respect, this, that, and the other. Right. And so even the third time when I was saying, and mind you, me and this nigga talked back there, bro. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. They said, I ain't just calling the nigga out the blue. Me and that nigga talk about this. Okay. We talk about this. We said what we were going to do. You talking about you were 50? Yeah, man. We talk about this shit, man. This shit didn't just come out of nowhere. We were moving around in L.A., man, selling some TV shows and shit while we were around each other, man. You know what I mean? I said, shit, what you think about this? He was like, shit, you want to do that shit? I said, yeah. He was like, all right, all right, cool. So shit. And I told him, I said, well, I'm going to jump out there first, and then you just going to jump out there, and we'll line it up. And he said, all right. And when I jump out that nigga act like he ain't know what the fuck was going on. And to me that just, you know, so at that point, then that's what it was about. You know what I'm saying? Now, it about, oh you playing. Okay, you gonna play. Alright, cool. But how about fuck all of it? Fuck all of it. I don't even want you to, man. Cause now I question your character. Any nigga gonna get out kicked that kind of shit then, you know, man. Nigga just say you don't want to do it. All the other extra lame ass shit, man, that shit. Goofy. So y'all talked about it, you saying. Mm-hmm. You went out there. Yeah, years ago. Years ago we spoke about it. I think it'd be a great battle, though. Man, that shit ain't gonna happen. That shit ain't gonna happen, man. I don't want to stay with them. I had no interest in standing on stage with that nigga. I don't respect him. Now. Yes. Let's get to something else. This me and Osweiler for game, we don't really do the beef shit. No, ain't no beef. No, no, you know. That's not what our platform, you know what I mean? We let niggas speak his mind, but we don't harvest on that. No, ain't no beef. Shit, you know what it is. Who would you love to do a versus with, though? um man i don't know man be honest with you bro i don't really give a fuck about that shit for real for real that shit just something i think the people will love to see it when motherfuckers start asking then you just start gotta have you know just sort through the options of motherfuckers that ain't already did it it's out there and man just to be honest man that shit don't mean that much to me like for real i really don't give a fuck yeah you know i mean you and that's the kind shit that the music getting into the music space you get into the the cycle of what's going on in the music industry and you now you just got damn man you susceptible to a bunch of bullshit lame shit goofy shit that come with i guess you could call it the the celebrity of it all man my nigga i could mind my rich-ass business man i could be got down somewhere hopping on a boat nigga you know what I mean? I could be doing anything. I ain't got to be bothered with this shit, man, for real. But I love what I do and I love the people who, you know what I mean? So I get out there and get to trying to do it. Who with that? Nobody got to worry about it. Man, tell that nigga shut his ass up, go somewhere he pay bills at, talk loud. Now, okay, so as you were sitting back. I'm still in that joint. Yeah, sit down and make some music. Fuck is that outside? Don't niggas get the fuck out of my shit, man. So as you was... This is where we can talk loud. Before you started making an album, right? Well, you know, you was always recording. What you was listening to that inspire you? Is there anybody that inspire you? They coming up? They young? They could be anybody. We don't even have to know them. Man, there's a lot of motherfuckers. Damani. Okay, I like that. Damani inspires me. Jit. Shit. King had started goddamn making some shit, man. I was ready to say, you said Damani, you ain't say King. It'd have been something about that. He'd have told you about that shit. King would have been like... He took a little longer, man. No, but listen, listen. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Every time I see this motherfucker, I be like, nigga, you was running around in that motherfucking house, nephew. You was running around in that fucking house. You major was more, but you was running around. All I, I don't care how I grow and he get, I be like, this nigga is crazy. he was putting people through shit anybody else was chilling in the house he was just with the shit like he don't now see the thing about Damani right Damani and King right so their dynamic now is so crazy because you know right now Damani's the big brother he's the rational one he's cool laid back and King is the rambunctious one you know back when they were like you know I guess 6 and 10 and Lem and Sel, nigga, they were co-defending. You know what I'm saying? Like, them nigga used to do the worst and get in trouble together. And at a certain point, Damani J kind of switched and evolved and kind of, I think it was when he got some pussy. I think that was when he got some pussy. I think I think he got a little pussy. He got a lot of, you know, and then he got extra cool, right? He got extra cool. That ass make him grow up fast and shit, yo. Faster than the motherfucker. You hear me? Boy, you be downstairs one day. Get some cheats. You come downstairs the next day, you like, yeah, what's up, man? Ain't no, ain't no. Oh, you upgraded from them titty sucks, huh? You went to the big game. So I think at that point, right, when he became like, you know, the sensible one, Damani was like, I mean, came like, man, what the fuck, what happened? You know what I'm saying? And so, you know, they've had to, they've evolved in their relationship as well. How was it? Hold on, let me ask him this question. Do any of them ever think they got you yet? Got me in what? Rapping like, Dad, I got you. Oh, amen. I don't need to be honest with you. Even if they win against me, I win. No, but what I'm saying is do they ever be like, Dad, I might be nice. I don't know how they feel, man. That's what she can say. I guarantee you. I don't know how they feel. He got you, I'm going to get him. See, but I tell you, he going to say that. He the type of dude to come up, Dad, you know I smoke you, right? I cook you on the track. because my son my son used to be like that hell yeah i could beat you in basketball no you can't man hey man you know what bro you know what i i i heard uh i think i heard steve harvey say that he say man when your dad die you just lost the only man on earth who wanted to see you do better than him that's some real that's some real because she everybody might want to see you do well not that quite that much good. Not that much better than me, though. You know what I mean? I'm going to say a real dad. Uh-huh. That's real. That's real. Because you got a lot of fake-ass dads out here. A father. A father. Right. A father. Absolutely. You got some dads out here. They live goddamn a mile away from these kids. Never see them. How was it for the kids growing up, you know, on a TV before? like social media was what it is now. Because now, all the kids grow up on the screen. You know what I'm saying? I don't know, bro. You'll have to add them. I will say before the camera came on, like, I didn't, they, I had never seen those parts of them. Oh, they, oh, King, he changed. Oh, they turned up, huh? Yeah, I hadn't seen them. See, I'm just blaming King. No, I mean, but all along, even Major, like, I never knew, like, Major, like, really don't talk for real. Major, yeah, Major. Like, Major really, he don't really like I mean he'll talk if you converse with him but like just blurting that funny shit in conversation. That's some shit that I learned on TV that he do. You know what I mean? I learned that shit on TV. I said who said that? He crazy. Major was crazy. Tip like this and shit on TV. Did daddy did such a thing. Hey look man. You're like what the fuck's going on? Major was about four years old man. And Major was about four years old. I don't remember what the episode was. I think somebody was going out on a date or prom or something. So we go down and we all talking. I'm trying to, you know, school either Messiah or Demandian. Like, you know what I'm saying? So this is how you treat the girl. And so then I say, all right, Major, how you treat a girl? That nigga said, bad. At Bumble, we're all about helping you find someone who vibes with the real you. This year, meet real people on Bumble who actually want you for you. Whether you're looking for big, soul-shaking love or fun, casual dates, on Bumble, clear and honest intentions lead to better matches. When you say what you're looking for up front, you get more aligned and meaningful connections. With features like photo and ID verification, you feel more confident the person you're talking to is real. Start your year off with real connections on Bumble. Download Bumble today. Sneaky. Yo, yo, yo. Yo, yo, man. I said, man, what the fuck? Who is this little bit of a man? told me that shit. I'm telling you. I'm telling you, man. That nigga said bad and sneaky. That nigga said bad and sneaky, man. That shit was legend. For you growing up, and we all grew up in some real serious situations. The trap. What's some of the advice you give your sons in this world that we live in in today continuously to make sure they're able to protect themselves in this world? Oh, they been to firearms training. Okay. They been to firearms training, so you know what I'm saying? They done been through the how to handle, how to, you know what I'm saying? And so shit, bro. Don't be out there lacking, you feel me? But at the same time, we also discuss a lot about conflict resolution. Your greatest weapon is awareness. you know what I mean being aware of what's going on around you how people moving, checking body language you know what I'm saying you watch in this area and you got to watch down the way to see what's coming for heaven and when you hear that voice say hey man let go, get the hell on then regardless and sometimes you might leave and don't know what happened you know what I mean, but get used to listening to that voice when that voice say hey man it's time to slide That's me. I always heard that voice. I told this nigga, you know, because we was having a conversation, and I was like, you know, one day he said, man, he always said, man, you always pussy. You was a pussy. I said, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something about the importance of being a pussy, right? I can write a book called How to Be a Pussy, right? Because I'm just being straight up. I'm just being straight up. Because I said, do you know how many dudes in the graveyard wish they was a pussy for one minute? You know how many dudes in jail wish they was a pussy for the... Because it only take one minute to catch a case. It only take one minute to get shot. When a motherfucker pulled out, nigga, you had to kill me. No, when he pulled out, I was all the way down the street. Soon as I seen the bulge and I peeped him, that nigga got a gun. That nigga got a gun. I wasn't the dude that wanted to wait, Tip. I'm not waiting at all. Because listen, this is what I didn't want to do. No, no, no. I didn't want to be a tuxedo mannequin. I wasn't trying to throw no suit on and have it on forever. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? Because the way this shit goes, if you're a tough guy, you got to wear a suit. If you're wearing a jail suit or you're wearing a suit that your grandmama and your mom are going to put together to you. This is going to be the suit. You know, nigga, the first time some people. I'm going to pick mine at. See, you're going to pick it out. I'm going to pick mine at. But most dudes, they never wore a suit in their life from the hood. The first time they wear a suit is in a casket. Oh. That's the introduction to most suits for dudes. No, straight up. Where the fuck they going at? I'm saying when we around the way we ain't going away little ride ride die go to today's man nigga got something to go to court in no no listen but they don't understand the date no no the suit you go into the court in is the one that they have hanging behind that anybody wear don't let your first suit be like this nigga you know what I'm saying but think about this shit it's a fucked up suit when we came up you gotta think about it it wasn't like we was going away y'all nigga crazy hell man that nigga fucking crazy and you remember I told y'all y'all nigga need the TV show long, long, long time. Yes, you did. Yes, you did. We still film a family. Yes, you did. Hey, man, I want to get y'all the show, man. Yes, you did. Before the podcast, before anything, y'all niggas would just tripping every time. Y'all entertained the shit. No, but this nigga be on some bullshit tip. The nigga just told you, think about this. This is the shit I got to deal with. He just told you, yeah, it wasn't no trees. Where the fuck you did? Justin, I've never been nowhere where I didn't see a tree. Ain't no trees in Philly, man. You trying to say ain't no fucking trees. I just showed you five trees. Google my block. It's not enough trees. It's trees everywhere, though, Tim. There's no fucking trees. He don't say, yeah, we done had trees. I don't understand. I don't be understanding the shit. I like when your granddaddy, you tell you, he walked 15 miles to get to school. Yeah. Like, how the fuck you did? But he gonna say, he gonna say. Is there trees around your way? No, no, barely. But it's trees. But listen. Bro, we go out here. It's trees. It's trees. It's trees everywhere. But you said there was no trees. Think about this. You sit outside. There's trees everywhere. Oh, shit. You go to Philly, you just see beat-up-ass houses, man. There's trees everywhere. That's it. You don't make no sense. No, it's not. But this is what happened. We was having a conversation, and the conversation, that's how the whole pussy thing comes. He tell me some, man, I remember, you know, every situation, he told me about a couple of situations. He was telling me this one youngin' about these back in the day. You know, all the dudes love to talk to the youngins about back in the day. Right. He's one of them niggas. So he tell me some. He telling the young boy, yeah, because I remember Winston A, we was coming down, Winston A blocked the boys standing there, and we jump off while O'Ran first. The fuck? What was I supposed to wait? Tip, think about this shit, Tip. It's not my job to activate your motherfucking feet and your legs. That ain't my job. What I'm supposed to say? Oh, no, I seen danger. I'm getting the fuck out of here. What the fuck is we doing? I always was a track star. Did you at least say, hey, let go? No. No. He see the same shit I see. He's going to tell me. He older than me. Listen, and this was the biggest word he ever said growing up. He said, because you're not good at deescalating the danger, man. I was like, I didn't know what the fuck he was talking about. I'm like, what the fuck? Let me tell you, Dad told you. You keep the danger going. Ho, ho, ho, ho. You got to resolve confidence. As soon as you see a motherfucking ho, ho, ho, man. We went to school together, man. What you want to do? I told one young boy, right? He told the young boy, I told the one young boy, I know you're fucking pop with some shit. No, no, no. No, no, listen, listen, listen. I seen the one young boy one time. Oh, shit. He said, damn, I see he had that shit. That shit was like this. Anybody that got a shirt on, and see, you know, the young bloods is crazy. They want you to see it. No, they have a tight shirt on with a gun like this, hanging out the shirt. No, I'm like, Neff. Like, you got this young man. Like, Neff, yo. And then another joint you got to do. See, this is a classic joint. See, I tell him anywhere we go, because we be in some dangerous places sometimes. So this is my first joint. As soon as I see some shit, and it get a little rough. Make sure you use this shit, King. Don't get crazy. In the process, because I'm an old head, I got to think a little faster than young boy. So young boy come, this, that, third, one time. This, that. I'm like, damn, they strapped the fuck up, Gil. They looking a little aggressive. So the first thing you do, tip, this is, and I activated this before. Don't, you know what I mean? This, that, third. So, young boy was standing right there. So, we all kicking it. I see him. I'm like, damn, they looking aggressive and hungry. So, the first thing I say, young boy, young boy, the cops right there. The cops right there. So, they going to retreat. Yeah. That's about de-escalating the danger. What the fuck is we doing, man? I'm not sitting around. That's like one of those old cartoons that say, okay, you guys go cause a diversion. Y'all cause a diversion. The cops come. And then we're going to go ahead and execute the plan. I'm getting about it. But no, I always try to tell people. But he always say he's getting up out of there. But listen, he never got away. He never got away. That nigga never got away. I got away from the other guys. He never got away from the police. He got away, but he ain't get away from Lou. He definitely didn't get away from him. I got socked one time. One time. Nigga socked me under the car. Yes, he did. Under the car. No, no, no, no. He socked that nigga. That nigga fell. And he went under the car. He thought Lou was about to stop. He be... Hell, no. I rolled right under that motherfucker. He went up under that motherfucker. See, think about this though. Think about this though. Tip, I ain't gonna lie. Tip, you gotta think about this. It was the first time, I think the only time, I didn't jump in and help a family member, man. Shit sound like a 22 one-off, man. And Lou got a dead eye. He turned around and looked at me. Everybody, I ain't. That shit between you and Lil' Cus, man. See, what I'm gonna do is, I realized because, listen, I realized I would tip my shit like that. When Lou was like that. Lou had a dead eye, rough looking nigga, husky ass nigga. And the other time I'd have jumped up, who was that pussy? That nigga hit while I was like, bam. God damn. You know one of them drinks where your body stiffen up? That nigga fell, he did some shit like this. Lou wasn't even about to kick him, he just slid up on the car and said, yo. Nigga like he worked at Jiffy Lou, you hear me? No, you know, Tip, like for me, I'm a reasonable person. I deal with logic. I don't deal with none of that tough shit. Because you got to think about it. I spent all that time in jail, and it's like everybody was tough. Right. And I was like, okay, this shit ain't working. Because I realized that it didn't work. So my whole thing was, I understand. It's like me and Gil one time, we at this restaurant. We run into this dude, and the dude was like, damn. And he said, I'm a bitch for this. He said, I'm a pussy for this, too. That's what I tell him. We run into the young boy, right? So he like, damn, there was so-and-so my pop. I said, who your pop? What's the name your pop? That nigga used to chase me from school, man. I'm going to pay for your food. So I paid for the young and food, right? Who do that? No, no, listen, listen. Listen, listen. That's one way to confront the bully. That nigga said, Bobby Belal, your pop? No, listen. That nigga used to chase me from school, man. Young and I'm going to pay for your food, man. No, because, listen. Because let me just explain something to you. Young boy was looking at him like, oh, he the bitch. No, that wasn't the case. I'm about peace on earth, man. Conflict resolution. That's right. You're going to learn some new shit from Tip now. You had never heard you say that shit. Now Tip said it. Now you want to keep repeating. No, no. Your version of that is me being a pussy. It's the same word. But it's different. You see what I'm saying? It's different. But Tip, now, you got multiple I heard it myself. I heard bangers. You're shooting visuals to them, but you decide to go to a different world with the visuals. Why is that? Man, I mean, I think, I think for one, it was a, it had a lot to do with timing. You know, just the timing of how everything, I just happened to have hit Hyte, because we started just talking about it. For y'all don't know Hyte Williams. Oh yeah, Hyte Williams. He makes movies, he don't make videos. Well, I mean, he, he make videos. That's movies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, so, so the But the thing is, we went, I think, went out the country somewhere and came back and it was just like, yeah, it's time, right? So I hit Hype last year, probably in December sometime. He didn't hit me back. And I forgot I hit him. Then this year, probably, you know, 12th, 13th of January, he just hit me like, hey, man, I'm just seeing you hit me, man, what's happening? I was like, shit, let's get it. And by then, we had already had the song lined up and everything. See? And. Go ahead, Patip. Hype pull up with the cameras in the trunk. Like, the work. He pull up, pop the trunk, pull the camera out, shit. I'm ready to eat the camera with you. I'm ready right now, for real. Damn. So, you know what I mean? Yeah. So, after he hit me back, we were shooting three days later. And we shot probably by, man, we shot here by five days. If you're watching football this weekend, you know how it goes. Somebody's always hungry by the first quarter. So call Pizza Hut and get the Big New Yorker for just $10. Our biggest pizza for the biggest games. These slices are huge. Like, use two hands and fold it huge. Feed your crew and order ahead at pizzahut.com or in the app. Brought to you by Pizza Hut. Yeah, I mean, me, Hype, Dro, you know what I'm saying? The click, we were just in there motherfuckers just shooting. And then, you know, we went up the street, shot some more on the corner, in the hood. Then, you know, we just come up with wild ideas. Like, you know, Hype was like, man, we got to get P. We got to get P. Alright, P's in pairs. And you know, people were like, well shit, I'll probably be dying now. I'll probably be dying to Miami or something this date. And so, alright cool, so we done planned to go to Miami. I'm like, well why we dying now? We bad, we'll shoot this, this, this, you know what I mean? So then we did that. And then people were like, damn, I ain't gonna make it to Miami though. You can catch me, you can catch me out here, you know, I think Grammys or some shit. So we were like, alright shit, now we gotta, you know, set up a little, a little goddamn excursion to go to LA so I'm like why we out here we may well do this this this and it it was working out beautifully yeah so shit at the end it we ended up we're probably about an hour and a half worth of content yeah I mean we shot by four five video and you know this deferral but she we got shit in the chamber and Chris Robertson me and Chris Ross Chris oh he's a beast yeah I just want to say I don't know if y'all heard this record yet I had the privilege to hear that he has a record with Anderson pack that I just think is produced by who? Dre, Dr. Dre. Yeah and that's you know that's mm-hmm what camera's mine? All of the all of the all of the record like these are people bruh that I really like just you know just talk on the phone and get game from like Drake man I man I hit Drake and just we'll just talk for a minute back all type of shit yeah I mean so doing music you know that shit don't even be the the like at the nucleus of our of our discussion and when the music come about it's a lot more fulfilling because you doing it with somebody that you fuck with for real. You feel what I'm saying? Same thing with DJ Toonk. You know what I mean? Me and DJ Toonk talk about an array of different, I'm talking about high tech, like, you know, Toonk don't smoke, but that nigga will have some 420 conversations with your motherfucking ass. You know how to get high and start, you know what I'm saying? You know, so if this is earth. Right. Damn. You know what I mean? He don't even need none of that shit. Nah, nah, nah, he's just out there. He's just out there, man. He's just out there. He's definitely, and a conspiracy theory, and the nigga, you know, the nigga's well-read. He's well-read, and he has expansive perspective on life because he done lived through a lot of shit. I mean, so making music with him is just a byproduct of the relationship. How do you feel about the current state of hip-hop? man it's mid metamorphosis what the fuck that you lost me hip hop is in mid metamorphosis let's say when something transitions from one thing to another thing example caterpillar butterfly right when a caterpillar becomes a butterfly he's entering into a metamorphosis When he cocoons himself, that's mid-metamorphosis. You look at a caterpillar while he in the cocoon, you know this shit look weird strange probably ugly as a motherfucker you Yeah But once the metamorphosis is complete he becomes something beautiful Something that you never expected that you would have seen Mm-hmm. And I think that we're hip hop here right now. Oh, so it's coming. Mid-metamorphosis, yeah. Oh, that's a good way of seeing it, man. And when this tape drop, it's gonna help. You know your old-ass nigga call it a tape. But when that tape drop Boy god damn Boy gonna be And boy gonna be in The tape When the tape drop No When the tape drop Still talking about shit When he went to jail When the tape When that tape come out The tape come out Bro you home bro He gave me a tape You know you fucking home Yeah No yeah the tape No it's like It's like It just Y'all was still having Cassette tapes and shit in there Yeah we wound up They wound up going to MP3 players Okay yeah yeah yeah But your music You ran all the Prison Talent shows No the fuck I wasn't in the original talent show. You hear me? Keep putting that in my... One, three years in a row and shit. He lying. Listen, he lying. What I'm going to say is... What he was doing? Well, one... You're going to lie. Okay, one song he did. What he was doing? He was rapping? No, one song. No, he was singing. Oh! He was singing and rapping. One joint that he tore that she tore the motherfucking prison down. What he was singing? Whitney Houston, I'm a married woman. You hear me? Ah, man. Nah, kid. He tore all the prison up. I know, big man. He lied. I know my man ain't doing that. You fucking lying on me. You lying on me. I know my man ain't doing that. Larry Locker Room lying on me, man. He used to work the locker room in the high school. What? Yeah, he was the same age going to high school working on the cleaning the locker room. Yeah, I took the job. That was Larry Locker Room down in the schoolhouse. Get the fuck out of here. Larry Locker Room. Locker Room Larry. Get the fuck out of here. Look at that. He's a fucking nut. I love this shit. He's a nut, though. He's a fucking nut. So, no. So I'm seeing everybody banging a song, though. They loving it. Radio grabbing it. TikTok. That's a blessing. They grabbing it and all that, man. That's a blessing. And it's like I always tell, you know me, I'm a true fan. So I always tell the artists that I love, some artists I grew up on, I always tell them, listen, man, your fans need you, man. What's going on, man? They need you because it's a movement of people at a certain age bracket. they're not listening to certain music past a certain time. I was so unaware of that. What? And they're really being starved. They're abandoned. It's a whole movement of a certain age bracket that's abandoned that they got jobs, they got careers, they buy hard tickets, they buy merch, and they want to dance. And they like, when they look at it, they like to dance to something that they like. So now it's like, oh, Tip got something, not only is it new and it's banging, but we can also hopefully get a tour from him when we get this catalog. Because this record, right, like, when you a legend, which, you know, Tip is a legend, and you get a hot record like that, all it is is a reminder of, you know, I'm still that nigga. I'm still a shit. I still got that flavor. I still got that, I still got it. I appreciate that. I could take some years off. I was unaware of the fact that people had done, you know, the misconception had arisen. No, but you know how it is. I had no idea. When you don't, when you take time on. When they told me I was back, I was like, where the fuck I want? Where the fuck I want? Because you gotta understand, when you don't, people want music consistently. They don't give a fuck that you've been doing it for this amount of years. You can talk to the average TI fan and they gonna know the last time you dropped the album. He ain't dropped the album in six years. You be like, damn. It had been six years, ain't it? But that's what I'm saying. That's how they be knowing. They be like, he ain't dropped the album. He came out with this and this. He ain't dropped in six years. And you be like, damn, these niggas really like know to the fucking month. I appreciate it. So when motherfuckers saying you back, it ain't necessarily saying a nigga fell off. and saying a nigga got one. He back giving us that shit. This, that shit right here. It more mean that. And that's hard. I'm humbled by that. That's hard. Like, you know, that, like, the feeling, the energy from the fans and the people that I never knew really even gave a fuck still. You know what I'm saying? When I say that, what I mean by that, like you say, people got careers, people got children, people got lives, people got their own agendas. You know what I mean? and I never knew that people at that present level of life is still listening to music. You know what I'm saying? How about this? You know what I mean? Maybe I hadn't thought about it at all. I hadn't considered it at all. What we do, and it's sad, but I realize what we do will rap music, right? And we gotta stop doing this shit. we put ourselves in a time zone but you mean to tell me like you said you ain't had realized that people still listen to it yeah don't you know how grandma and grandpa be 70, 80 and they listen to Marvin Gaye and they listen to James Brown yeah but they they listening to the old shit yeah I understand they ain't going out there buying no new shit no no no I'm just saying I'm just saying music don't die that's true and when you somebody and you connected to somebody it's like it continues and people like I said, people want to hear it. But our culture made it believe that, oh man, you're old. Nah, it ain't no such thing. Music is a sound and a vibe and it don't have no age. When your music came out, when it connect, it don't have no age on it. It's a sound and it's an energy. So when you're thinking about music, it don't got nothing to do with what age somebody is. It's about, do this shit connect, do it resonate with me, do it connect with the vibe. Is it the soundtrack? is the summer, or is it the soundtrack of what's going on in my life, is it the soundtrack in this bar? They don't give a fuck. You can't put no age on no motherfucking banger. And to be able to make a banger in this point, just your first one, it ain't no, you know how people gotta work records? You didn't have to work this. You went in the studio, made it, and it just, that's hard. And this day and time for people that's relevant. It's people that's relevant. I see him drop. You see this. Y'all see this all the time. There's people that's welling right now. I done seen him drop six songs in the last year and they ain't go. Man, I mean, everybody get their time. Yeah, it's hard. I mean, you know, I appreciate. I'm humbled by it. Like, to be honest with you. Because, listen, this nigga been rapping since we was like 17. He ain't never have a hit. You know how hard that shit is? That's like 37 fucking years ago. The nigga's 50 now. So that's 30 years ago. He's 50. No, no, that's 33 years ago. Oh, shit. He been rapping. The nigga never caught a hit. The nigga was a local. He was a local. He was a neighborhood. He had a neighborhood hit. Yeah. The Jonah just jumped in the neighborhood. Then he crossed the road over the city. Man, one fucking knew who Gillette was. They knew who he was, but he didn't have no hit. Tell me a hit. Fuck is you talking about, Tiff? Tell me a hit. The nigga was a journeyman rapper. You know the boxer. You know the boxer. You know the boxer, Tim? Oh, shit, bro. The nigga keep boxing. He always this close to the shot. Then he lose again. Then he get a fight. He gonna fight a mailman. He beat the mailman up. Yeah, I'm the champ. I'm back. He get knocked out again. He that bull. Oh, shit, man. Nigga with a journeyman rapper. Man, fuck if you. Oh, no, that new girl. Why you laughing so much? He didn't have no hit. Fuck out of here. That shit hard, man. It's hard to get a song popping like that organically. Man, and I'm humbled by it. Nigga was doing shows in bars and shit, man. He the first rapper that went on a bar tour. That nigga did every bar in the East Coast. He had a flyer back in the day doing bars. What nigga you know do bars? See, so they don't know nothing. They think about lounges. A bar hold like 15, 20 people in that bitch. Oh, shit. He was doing bars, man. Oh, shit. Corner stores and shit. You see what I'm saying? Nigga was doing corner stores. You know what I mean? You know the corner stores up north. They be smaller than this room. You can put five of them bitches in this room. Oh, shit, man. Fucking bum, man. Goddamn. I mean... So, oh, shit. Oh, man. I'm going to say it again. I appreciate it, man. Thank you to all the fans. Nigga was doing Provo tours and laundry mats and shit. Cleavons and shit. I'm going on my Provo tour, coming to a laundry mat near you. He doing shows and laundry mats, wash and dryers. I mean, he did fucking like Wacky D. You fucking nut. I gotta cook you Cause if he get a change He gonna cook me He gonna cook me No we ain't done No we not nigga Nigga you done You on the grill I cooked you You ain't had to do that in your career You ain't had to perform at bus stops And try to get on the bus What's up everybody My name's Mike man You ain't had to do that shit I mean, you different. You different. You special, baby. Atlanta's been good. But no. So, so, so, so, so. How thankful is you to Atlanta, though? I am, man. For holding you up at all times. I'm very thankful. I'm very thankful to the time, man. You stupid as fuck. What? I'm just telling the truth. I'm just telling the truth. You stupid as hell. The guy, Atlanta had been, I mean, the best. Like... Don't laugh, Tim. There it go. There it go, Tim. Atlanta been to bed to me. Before anybody else knew who I was and knew what I was capable of, before anybody else saw me as a star, Atlanta been saying, you know what I'm saying, in high school, the motherfucker said, boy, you gonna make it. Boy, you gonna get there. I had a junkie I used to sell dope to. He'd say, T, you gonna be somebody. You know? Dang. You know what I mean? For real. Jay told me that, man. I mean, but let me ask you a question. Was he like, T, you gonna be somebody? Let me get two feet. Nah, but I will tell you this I will tell you this You know, I did get down I did give him two for like $17 Cause he told you that night It was hit for a fifth time You know what I'm saying Give me four for third But no, but I He said it He didn't say it before, he said it after You know what I'm saying But nah, I think his point was He said, because everybody, you know, they trying to look at us like we less than. We just got a habit like anybody else, man. You know what I'm saying? You deal with people like they real people, man. And that's going to take you a long way. You're going to be somebody. That's what he told me. To him like, what a $30. Yeah, come on back. That'll be 33 the next time. I remember what you said, nigga. But what a $30. No, you know what? And I just want to touch on that. Because I think we live in a time. That was real important what they said. No, let me touch on that now, nigga. Yeah, nigga. You know why that was a good lesson that he told you? Right. That how you don't look down on people, right? Because he was locked up, right? And a dope fiend come through. And a dope fiend get put in a cell with this nigga. And this nigga call himself bucking his chest out. I didn't do that. I didn't do that. He jumped there and tell the Duke Fiend, hey, listen, man, you in this joint, right? We keep this joint clean. You know, you on some real live prison shit. We keep this joint clean. Hey, listen, we ain't with none of that bullshit. I ain't do that. Duke Fiend waited like three months. He was out there running around the yard and all that. Came in the cell one day and said, hey, man, come in, man. What's that shit you told me when I first got here? Say that it happened, dick. No, it happened, but I'm going to explain what happened. I'm going to explain. Can I explain what happened? He was into UBM. You hear me? Oh, shit. Ultra bitch mood. No, what happened is... Oh, hey, got it weight back. Yes, he did. No, no, no. Oh, hey, got it, bitch. Fucked up. I don't do that, no. He waited two, three months. Got his weight back. He came in. Hey, come here. That's that shit you talk when I first came in, nigga. He's talking about, no, oh, hey, I'm saying it. When he left. No, what happened was when he was in the cell, he was a little messy. So I said, yo, man, we don't do that ahead, man. You know what I mean? Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Just like I said. And I told him. So when it came back, I said, you know what? I said, see, what happened was... Thy ticket, Lady Jennifer of Coolidge. Well, many thanks, good sir. Heareth my Discover card. They accept Discover at Renaissance Fairs? Yeah, they do here. Discover is accepted at the Places that I love to shop. Get it? With the times. With the times? You're playing the lute. Yeah, and it sounds pretty good, right? Discover is accepted at 99% of places that take credit cards nationwide. Based on the February 2025 Nielsen Report. I got off the phone with a girl and my energy was a little off when I say it when I say it to you. I didn't mean to say it with that type of hostility in my voice. If I offended you, I want to take that back right now. Because that wasn't the case. that wasn't the case. Ultra Mitch move, right? No, it was an understanding. If I offended you, I want to take you that day. Because the way she made me feel that day on the phone, I couldn't connect with what was going on. That was baby. But yeah, you had a girl on the phone and I came in there and that wasn't for you though. Yeah. That wasn't for you. What did he say? What did he say? No, no, no. He was like, he was like, don't let that shit happen again. Oh, shit. I said, listen, I said, listen, hold up. It didn't even happen the first time because that wasn't meant to you. That wasn't meant for you. That wasn't even meant for you. You know what I mean? That wasn't meant for you. And, and, and, I need you to know that, I need you to know, listen, you just came from working out. I'm ready to make something. You want some of this food? Because we ain't got to get, we ain't got to get into all that, man. Oh, shit. He was too big. The motherfucker was, listen, you know when a dude come back to jail, and they reconnect with their energy, they get all that poison out of them. Yeah. And the motherfucker get on that weight bar, the dip bar and all that shit. dudes be having muscles for no reason. Y'all had weights in there? Yeah, they had the real weights. They had weights for real? Yeah, the joint they could take the hitch in the head with. Nigga called me one day, motherfucking, he in the yard, a motherfucking slapping nigga in the head with a weight. Damn. He called me, talking about, I just had to go lay down for three days. Damn, three days? Three days? He said, cuz, he hit this nigga in the head with a weight, man. My whole stomach or anything just turned, I just... Man, I went in that cell, man. There's no bullshit. You think I'm joking. Listen, I went in that cell first when it happened. Because, you know, I'm the type of person, I deal with logic. You know? I don't want, like, we don't have to get, like, a misunderstanding about what's going on. But I had to reevaluate where I was. I said, hold up. I'm going to go in there. I'm going to sleep. And hopefully when I wake up, I'm not here. Because what happened. And then one day I slept because I had to sleep. The trouble to wake. But I woke up, I was still here. And then I spent that whole day. And I prayed to all the guys to try to say, please, get me out of here. whoever came up to give me a shot another nigga got slapped in the head with a wig no I was like man that nigga hit you hard he must have hit him hard so you said the nigga who got hit was outside before you he was back outside before you yes oh yeah I didn't need to be in the yard why do my presence need to be bless the yard I don't need to bless the yard it's safe right here See, you know what's crazy? I always said this, right? I always said this shit, because he used to be like, yeah, man. He said, man, you used to be out the way in jail. Hold up. What, I was supposed to be in the way? Because I'm trying to figure out. This is what I'm trying to figure out. I'm in jail. There's a bunch of niggas that love to be tough there. Yeah. I got to get the fuck out of here by any means. So let me go do all my programs, do anything I'm supposed to do. Excuse me. No, sir. I didn't mean to step on your shoe. And my mannerism game got extraordinary in jail. Yeah. And I just wanted to make it home because it was a dangerous place. Basically, he only gave his ass up a couple times. Get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here. That nigga, man. Listen, man. Don't pay that nigga no attention, man. Get the fuck out of here. You love that shit, King. You listen to this dumbass nigga. King, don't listen to this nigga. That's why I'm telling you, King. King, King, King, listen. King, don't go to jail, King. I'm telling you, man. In my experience, I've seen that, you know, if you get into some shit in there, you were looking for it. You gotta ask for whatever you want. You do. You gotta ask for that. And the movies be fake because you'll see people and it's like, I'm gonna tell you some shit and I know people gonna think I'm crazy. I know y'all gonna think I'm crazy. The most respectable place I ever been to in my life was jail. Yeah. Listen, I never seen never seen human beings respect, respect, respect. Meaning, I didn't see dudes in the chow hall, might bump each other by mistake, and they would sit there and have an apology contest. No, my fault, brother. No, my fault. Because they understand. No, no, no. My fault, brother. No, no, no. My fault. Some of them, brother. It'd be a battle because they understand that if me and you go through it, this whole, your section and my section, I go through it. And now people can't go home. So it was about leadership in there and it's about responsibility and understanding and not being selfish. Right. Because a lot of these, if you look at the culture and the black culture now, a lot of people in these different cities is going through some shit and people is dying based off of ego because two motherfuckers can't come together and say, you know what? This shit, listen, what's going on between me and you, we can't let that affect these neighborhoods where these babies got to die. Motherfuckers got to lose their fathers. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? Motherfuckers got to lose people. and that's why we go through it in our black communities because can't nobody say, you know what? It ain't that deep. Like you just said, shit ain't that deep. It ain't. It ain't that deep. But one thing I will say as we move on to talk about this, listen, Tip, you that nigga, brother. You did some extraordinary things. Thank you. So are you, man. Thank you, brother. We seen you in real time. You took care of your family. You love your wife. You looked out for so many people and you never say nothing about it. That's what's so good. No, no. No, that's what's great because we live in a time now people only want to do something for you when they can talk. If they can't talk about it, oh, no, I don't want to do it. I mean, no, that's the reality of it. But you did so many people. You did so much stuff for so many people behind the scenes to help people careers. And when you did that for them, you took your whole communities because you help people get in position to be able to take care of their family. And they can take care of other people around them. And kept them from breaking in my house. You know what I'm saying? So this was selfish. This was about to get broke up. Fucking right. It's all about keeping niggas out from brick and brick. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. You know, because when motherfuckers get starving, man, you know what I'm saying? Shit, they looking for which house to hit. Nigga trying to come through King Window and shit. Oh, don't do that. King on Papa. King on Papa. King on Papa. King on Papa. Now, what do that hat mean to you? What's that? That hat right there. That hat right there. That one. What do it mean to you, the way you got it? Tell them about how you got it. That's the crowd. Where did it come from? So, man, when I was little, my oldest homeboy, man. 81. He 81 years old. But he going on 81. He 80 right now. His name is Slim. That my oldest homeboy. And, you know, he used to be my mama's boyfriend back in the day. You know what I'm saying? And then, you know, that didn't last long. You know, he, you know, went his own way. she went her but me and him stayed cool so you know all while you know while I was you know teenage out of shit here you know come pick me up and you know we'll ride around talk shit watch him handle his business and shit you know I mean when I got old enough to drive you know he'll drop the calls let me move around do my little shit and he gave me a house I ain't getting your tech too. Yeah, well, yeah. You ain't getting your tech now? Yeah, man. So, you know, he was really on dope boy shit. And that's where I got the hat from. He was really on dope boy shit. So, Slim, he had, you know, back in the day, man, you were rolling, rolling. You would got there locked down. You could have some apartments. Or what he did, he had a whole, like a motel just locked down. You know, I guess he was in with the owner or somebody. He had the whole motel was a trap. You know what I'm saying? And so every day he'll come back with these paper bags full of money, toss them on the bed, count money and shit, and he laid a pistol down, a tech knife. So I'm like, what's that? Because I had never seen that, that looks like shit on New Jack City or something. You know what I'm saying? And he was like, yeah, man, this is the burner. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you know, this is how you got to protect yourself. Keep yourself out of harm's way. He says shit like that. And I say, man, let me see it. He say, man, tip, man, I don't know, man. That's how he talk, too. He say, man, Teresa killed me, man. He talking about my mama. I say, man, let me see it. So he gave it to me. And then I'm like looking at him, looking at him. I done got there, shot the motherfucking night. He say, see, man, what the fuck I told you, man? Give me this, man. Go on in there. and I probably was about eight nine years old right in here but he the one but he the one who used to wear his hat like this yeah you know I mean he had a Jerry curl at the time he had throw that motherfucker like trucker hat and motherfucker they got the little gold shit on the bill was the first person in the neighborhood with a jerry curl that shit used to wet his whole towel his whole shirt used to be wet and his little chainsy had he's turn green his neck turn green you know scabs and shit man he had a soaking this shit was dripping like a a motherfucker like it was raining. She be dripping all his whole collar be soaking wet. That's why he lost his hair. Look at it. She cooked his scalp. The first nigga around the way were activated. Yeah, nah. Yeah, man. What you saying? But nah, Slim been a motherfucker, man. Slim has... That's the toughest nigga I know, man. This nigga done did time on top of time. Nigga shot 13 times. Goddamn, Slim was a man. You lost an eye? You know what I'm saying? Hey guys, it's Rian Fran. If you're looking for a cola that delivers, Pepsi Prebiotic Cola is it because nothing beats that great Pepsi taste. It's delicious. It has three grams of prebiotic fiber, five grams of sugar, just 30 calories, and no artificial sweeteners. It honestly tastes like Pepsi with so much more to love. Tried it, loved it. Pepsi Prebiotic Cola. You should pick some up if you haven't already. It's the perfect drink when you are ready to just relax, sit on the couch, watch a movie, and enjoy a delicious Pepsi Prebiotic Cola. Yeah, I am. But he, you know, he like real Atlanta player. I was talking to him today before I walked in there with y'all. We would talk, he'd say, yeah, man, I heard old Jesse Jetson died today. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I said, yeah, I heard that. He said, man, I used to shoot pool with him up on Hunter Street. I was like, okay. He was like, yeah, that before all the marching and shit. You know what I mean? Dang. And then he was like, he said that when he was going to Mo House. I said, you know, could he shoot? He said, yeah, yeah, he had a pretty good game on him. You know, he was all right. You know what I mean? Yeah, man. So we talk about shit like that. And I talked to him, I said, man, how long or when did you start committing crime? That man said, hell, it must have been about four, five. I said, what the fuck? He said, yeah, I ran a till tap. I said, what the fuck is a till tap? Till tap. He said, well, first you need to look out, man. And you got to, so basically what they would do is somebody would ask for something, come in and ask for something in the store. and why the the the person that is still you know going to get whatever they ask for they'll go and try and snatch the money at draw another nigga snap the money out to draw in there and run out and stop so oh here man this nigga way back way back he was fucking around when King and them was little you talking about with Martin Luther King yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah he you know he talked about running in the running in the morning but he was like me I used to trying to straighten up when I saw him. You know, he was like, man, I don't want him to see me out there, you know, getting down. But, you know, so I mean, he said he had a lot of respect for my niggas out there with their work. Hey, nigga, he gonna mark, nigga. That's different. I had a dream. Right on, brother. Right on, right on. That's deep. I'm joining the march next week, brother. Right on, brother. I'm joining them next week. That's wild. Nigga, what you say you want now? Nigga like this, Martin gotta stop walking through this. That's deep. But I think it's important for, you know what I'm saying, for the younger generation, in this case I'm talking about me, to be able to pull from and learn from, you know, motherfuckers who done lived more life than them. Absolutely. That shit is valuable. And you shouldn't, I believe we got to normalize in our culture. Just because you got money doesn't mean you're writing. Just because you don't got money doesn't mean you don't know nothing. Absolutely. Because people think, like a lot of, like, when they look at people like us, we got people that we pull from that's not rich. They're not an entertainment. They're just regular people. That's right. And they give you the best. They give you the so much. We didn't pull guidance from them. And they helped us out in life. And I think now we live in this world now where if you ain't got no money to flash, it means you don't know nothing. You ain't got no knowledge. Well, you're doing it yourself a terrible disservice. If you really study wealthy people, if you really study the wealthiest people in the world, they measure their wealth by the amount of things each of them have that money can't buy. You feel what I'm saying? Like the money is a tool, a tool to use to get more money. And of course you could do certain things that put you in certain positions but the money that shit don define nothing That shit don define that Some people are poor All they have is money You know what I mean Like you know what the quality of your character man What you made of? What about your man stuff? You feel me? All that gangster shit, it's cool, all right. But what about, like, your principles? Your morals? You can do all the crime in the world, but why? Who did you benefit besides yourself? You know what I mean? that shit I think that shit go a long way that shit go a long way and that's what's missing that was missing motherfuckers really just kind of like they stuck on doing the stuff but not you know creating or understanding the logic behind why the stuff is being done that's real definitely real now tip man we appreciate you man taking the time out I love this facility. I'm telling you. I just see the vision of this facility. If you live in Atlanta, man, this thing ready to be special. If you're a creator, you're streaming, you do podcasts, you're recording, you do graphic design, you know, this going to be, you're looking for office, this going to be, this thing is cold. It's cold, man. Big shit popping, little shit stopping, you hear me? Yeah, man. I appreciate y'all. You feel me? I appreciate y'all. Not just, you know, for this, but like what y'all, what you mean to the culture, you know. Y'all pulling up on the young niggas that most motherfuckers scared to talk to. You know what I'm saying? And you're humanizing them in the face of the world. You know what I mean? When people already feel like they know what to expect from a motherfucker, y'all get in there and they get to, you know what I'm saying, showing, you know, a different side of themselves. which changes a lot of motherfuckers outlook on them. You know what I mean? And people get to forgetting that motherfuckers, these motherfuckers human. Yes. You know what I mean? These people human, man. They're kids. Yeah. And we made mistakes too. They're young adults. Tons. At the end of the day, they're kids, man. They're 24, 23, 22, 19. Kids with access to everything. Everything. Man, we were kids and we had access to everything, nigga. it's been over. Man, what? Everything, nigga. No matter what the fuck it is I want, I can have it now. Man, that's... That's crazy. Right. Just think about it the first time you got to see some titties. How hard you had to work to see some titties like on TV or something. You know what I'm saying? This nigga, I lost my virginity if I had a handjob. You had to do to get a chick back in the day. Yeah. She gave me a handjob. You say what? I lost my virginity and the girl gave me a handjob on the step. I was in the game. Yeah, he lost his virginity to an H.J., man. I was like this. I'm sitting there. I'm like, I'm on a step. And she was a Duke fiend. I had my shorts on. You know, back in the day, shorts wasn't bad. I had my shorts on. She gave me a joint. I was like, I got in the game, man. He was done. She shook the dice. She shook the dice. That nigga ain't shit. Seven. I was done. I was like, I'm a man now. That nigga ain't shit fast and shit, you hear me? I was like, yeah, I'm in the game. Avery, you had to bop in your strip. Man, I wasn't, man. I counted that. And she counted. He the first nigga lost his virginity to H.J., man. A handjob. That shit counted, man. I don't fuck out of here. Hey, listen, man. That shit matters a lot. Just like you said, how to get a job. Now, I'm talking about access. I was talking about access matters a lot. Well, that shit mattered a lot to him. Yes, it did. But I said access, the access to things matters a lot. Like, you know, when you said you were trying to, you know, when we used to have to, you know, try to get girls. We had to get in front the girl that we wanted to see. We couldn't just dial a chick up off of Instagram and reach out way to California, Hawaii or somewhere. Hey man, what's happening? That shit, if that shit could happen back in our day, man. See, the young boys now, they stand in the club all night looking at a chick. They don't got to say shit. They can just hit on Instagram. They stand all night. They don't say shit. As soon as they get to the car, I seen you in the club. Damn, nigga. the fuck you, we was looking at each other all night. The fuck you, and you ain't say shit. You ain't say shit. Then you get to the car. Where you going? Like, dog, you could have just had time to socialize. But that's how the young boys is now. Yeah, but I think, you know what I'm saying, man, I think we can learn a lot from them. Yes, they can learn a lot from us. And they can learn, and they can learn from all men. So I think it's important for us to continue to bridge that gap. Absolutely. Oh man, you know the date on the album yet? No. Well for right now y'all gonna get that single, but I'm just saying. Yeah. That Anderson . What's up? And that T.I. produced by Dr. Dre. I'm calling it now. Get ready. That's on go. Get ready. I appreciate it, bro. To God be the glory. And it's just like that. Right! This episode of Million Dollars Worth a Game is brought to you by Ava. Bad credit can make everything harder. 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And you'll get the 20% off your plan for this year. That's promo code DOLLARS. Thanks to Ava. Now go get yourself good credit Right You see what it is We right here with nephew Damani Forever lasting tape And you know what's crazy He named his album That dropped You know the 13th February 13th Friday the 13th He named it Forever lasting tape And his dad was getting on me About saying tape Like I'm an old dude So He must know something He gotta know something Cause he put tape In the name of his Drop Like this is tape Like so He got a little old soul I was dedicating it to the aunties and uncles, I don't know, just tell them. So. Damn, old games. I thought it was like- It was a dedication to old niggas. I thought it was like, damn, those young guys call a tape now too. They caught on to what was going on. No, they didn't. I guess it's still old. Every time I hear you, it's always smooth, it's always kind. Yeah. It's always thoughtful. It's like it ain't nothing that's just thrown out. What is your process in creating your music, Damani? Man, I really just try to catch a vibe for real and try to get across exactly how I'm feeling that day into whatever instrumental, whatever music is playing for real. I don't really try to think of how to make a good song, a good hook, a good hit or hit record, radio record. I just try to capture exactly how I'm feeling that day and I guess it just come across that way. Why you only gave him a few songs? Quality over quantity. They're my favorite songs. I feel like it told the story. Did it take you, when you was recording, did it take you, did you make a lot and you just picked them, picked out of them? Or it was like, this is what I'm doing and this is what I'm doing. Yeah, so I think it was 2023 or 2024. I ended up putting up like eight projects, just four or five tracks each. And I feel like that's the best way to engage with the audience. So I just take that same approach with this right here. instead of putting 20, 30, 40 tracks on a project, just break it up and continue to tell a story like a TV show rather than a four-hour-long movie. It's like you catering to the attention span of people because it's like, you know, I think sometimes even when we get artists that we love the most, when they got so many songs, we don't even get to all of them. Feel like homework. Yeah, it's like, no, I'm going to listen to this one song that I want and then I'm going to dip off and I just make my own playlist. And you'll take one or two songs off the album and creates a playlist and don't even listen to the rest of them. That's real. I listen to most of my music in the car. The longest I'm driving is probably 25, 30 minutes. So you can listen to the whole tape. You got to get, but in that time, you got to get right to it if you listen to music. Somebody got to catch. Right. Like, where do you pull your inspiration from? Just life, conversations, just whatever story I want to tell, whatever's inspiring me that day. It could be a conversation with a young lady, with my pops, with y'all. It's really just, it's just magic for real when the music matched the vibe and it come across perfectly that's the beauty of music I just want to commend you first and foremost for being yourself appreciate it knowing who you are you know what I mean because most most kids who grow up in a you know a rapping family they usually you see the kids trying to emulate who their dad was and that really wasn't who what they like was about you know what I mean? So I commend you for just being yourself. Like, like pretty much how you come off is almost like, okay, you could really see him being that way in real life. He just laid back. He just cool. He just talking his shit, you know, and it kind of reminds me on like, like some, some fullback artist type of shit. You know what I mean? Where you, You really putting substance to your shit. It's not about you worrying about if it's going to catch you on TikTok or if it's going to be. No, I'm just doing me. You know what I mean? And that's what real art is about, just doing you, being the best version of yourself. You know what I mean? So I commend you for that. How do you stay yourself and stay focused when there's so much stuff coming your way? You know, you got technology. You got music. You got fashion. there's so many different ideas coming your way how do you stay true to your idea you know yeah I think the love for the music kind of make everything else easy it's like what do you choose is it really a question I remember I used to skateboard and Pops I either had to go to the studio I could choose to go to the studio or I could choose to go to the skate park he was like what you want to do do you really want to make music or do you really want to skate and I had to sit and think. I was like, for sure, I want to make some music. So it's like the love for the music or whatever you do is going to always make the answer easy. You know what I'm saying? So I feel like I always chose music and it was nothing really else to think about. Like going into this project, right? Do you ever have like, I know you say you got different ideas, but do you have like ideas or do you have concepts for you like I'm sticking to this? I mean you just how do you approach it or you just say I'm going to the studio I just go to the studio like you said I used to do that and wait on inspiration wait on the vibe, wait on the right beat or something like that and then I realized you know two, three months I ain't did nothing you can't treat nothing like that nothing in life works like that you know what I'm saying so I gotta treat it like the gym where I gotta write something everyday I have to see me doing something to lead me in a direction where it's like, do I really want to be the greatest at this? I got to do something. I used to produce and I used to do music myself. And when I was doing the music, I was producing. They laughing. I was producing Gil. I took Gil to the studio back in the day. I was producing. I was his producer and his manager. No, he wasn't. So I'm producing. No, straight up. He took me to the studio. He wasn't no producer or no fucking manager. I was who the producer. I was getting the samples. If I'm getting the samples for the producer, I'm producing. That's producing. Every song, when we sampled Nas, did I tell Peanut to sample him? All right. Yeah, I was doing a, that's producing. Producing is literally when you produce. See, I wasn't no beat maker. I'm the one that tell the producer, yo, sample this, do that. So I was a producer, too. I was a co-producer. I was laying the foundation down. He just wasn't on none of the credits. And I was a hotter rapper than you. I was a hotter rapper than you. He just wasn't on none of the credits. He was a producer. Hey, King, come here, man. What you got going on, Nephew? You got some music too, man. What's the name? What you working on and what's going on? Well, right now I'm preparing for what I'm about to drop, OGYN. Okay. It's like... OG young nigga? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? A young nigga that carried itself with moral principles. You know what I'm saying? I'm glad you broke it down. The things that used to be considered as OG energy, gangster. You know what I'm saying? Hold on. Let me give you some game. Let me give you some game, Nephew. This is shit I got to deal with now. Let me give you some game now. Don't you think it should be YNOG? Nah. You can't start it off with OGYN. You not no OG yet. Nah, my mind. It's a mind thing. But you a young nigga with an OG mind. Nah, it's a mind thing. You not an OG young nigga. You a young nigga OG. I really retired from being a young nigga. Oh, shit. I love it. I really retired. He beat me on that pool game, so it was something. You know what I'm saying? He beat me. That was smart. He said, OG, why? He said, I retired. I said, OG, young nigga. He said, that was. I retired. You're not an OG yet. You're a dancer. No, all right, so look. I'm not an OG to the OGs. Okay. When it comes to the YN, you know what I'm saying? When we be realistic, I was the first, like, public bad, like, IQ. like we like him, he's bad and cute, da da da, YM, you know what I'm saying? Talk your shit, Nef. Go ahead, rest your arm on my shoulder, this some cool shit. This some super cool shit right here. You learn from your pop, yeah. And then I had a lot of moments that went viral that was, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying, bad to be, but you know what I'm saying? I like to make good out of the bad, you know what I'm saying? To just say that what I used to be, I'm not no more. You know? That's the OG side. That's the OG side. But I still have YM moments You know what I'm saying He just put it together So that bullshit you just said You retired from being a YM That's exactly what it is And what's crazy is some OGs Have YM moments too out here these days You see it all the time So we can't tell you what to do and what not Some of these OGs they ain't OGs They old fleas There's a difference Ain't no OG having no YN moments. No, that's an old fleet. Looking for some attention is a little different. So what's the direction of the T? Now it's like music is kind of like just more so shoot them up, bang, bang. And it's not as more creative. And I like to have fun with the music, express myself through my music, and kind of like give the audience things about me they didn't see on the camera you know so my music's not for the people that don't like me it's my music for the people that support me you know what i'm saying i'm not trying to paint an image through my music or trying to get uh respect from non-respectable people i'm really just venting what i go through and then and believe it or not, whatever it is, okay, cool. But I make my music for me and the people that support what I got going on. So I tried to diverse, I tried to bring in together like young and old, like I got Draw on the tape. I got Pops, he gonna remix something on the tape. Okay. He already did it? Yeah, he already did it. Who did it? Keep it real. Who could, too? Who could, who could, too? I mean, we got to get in the lab together. Not what I asked you. Your pop got on something? Yeah, he did. He got on a few things. Did he cook you? I think he kind of complimented you. I didn't say what you did. I didn't ask you what you thought. I asked you, did OG cook your ass on that song? I'll let you tell me. I'll let you tell me. I'll let you tell me. Yeah, I got to let you tell me. Is the tape always fully done yet? It's done right now. We're just selecting which songs is going to go on there. Let me know if you need a verse. I'll still be spitting here. No, Neff, don't do that. You be spitting? I ain't heard nothing. No, no. Nasty work, Neff. You know, I do it in the cut. Nasty work. What should you spin about? I talk about, you know, current type of stuff, things that's going on in the world. You know what I mean? I do rap a little bit about this, a little bit about that. Nasty work, you hear me? I had to plug. You know what I mean? They say my style, my style a mixture of, my style is a mixture of, I'll probably say some older dudes you might don't know, but it's like a mixture of, Ice-T, Nelly, Young Jeezy, and Tupac. So they say my style like that. I mean, it's a little different style. It's a little different style. Like, nobody really rapped like I rapped. And we ain't heard you. No, no, no. You got a big platform. I think we would have heard you. But then Jill's rap name was Ricky Minaj. He's lying. He's a hater. Because I'm a better rapper than him. I'm a better artist than him. Like, when I'm coming with, like, the name of my project I'm currently working on. Let's talk about a beauty must-have, Batiste Dry Shampoo. It's the award-winning number one dry shampoo in the U.S. and worldwide. And honestly, it earns the hype. Batiste instantly refreshes your hair by absorbing oil and grease, leaving it cleaner looking with added volume and texture. You get that fresh blowout look without the blowout price. In fact, Batiste works better than the leading competitor, even compared to brands that cost up to twice as much. A cult classic for a reason and perfect for all hair types. Grab Batiste dry shampoo online or in store at your nearest retailer today. Yeah, we got something. Well, he kind of, because we did a little merch pop up. Oh, that's, that's, that's. And we had work for the Pops restaurant. Yeah. He ain't give me my $1,800, so I'm going to just, we just going to get it in on the EP. Man, he burnt you. So you should have got fire insurance. Yeah. Because he burnt you. I covered it. He ain't take what he was supposed to. Yeah, he burnt you. He said, okay, you got to give me that verse. So he do verses for $1,800. Nah, nah, nah. It's, you know what I'm saying? That's just you. You love you. He came for the DTL, he said, I'll give you a verse. He said, little bro, go ahead, man. I'll give you a verse, man. Get out of here, man. Go get that from Pops, man. So do y'all reach out to y'all pool and each other for like guidance sometime in the studio? Like, yo, what you think about that? Yeah, sometimes I make songs and he be like, yeah, put that in there. And then I be like, nah, bro, put that in there, bro. and I just do it because he say, he say, uh, we should just create the music and let the music flow how it needed to. So he say we be in the middle of the music and trying to block it, because that's how we make it. Like when we make it, we don't want to just put it out. However, we want to be comfortable with how we putting it out. But he say that really be the delay on the music going places. That's how you don't make it out of the hard drive for that reason. Damn, you know what's crazy? Got to get out of the way of the music. This was crazy. I remember I was talking on social media. Yeah, that's real. I was talking on social media, and I was just telling people that I felt personally that we're not getting some of the greatest music because most of our favorite artists got some of their best music on hard drives, and they won't drop it because they worrying about TikTok and worrying about stuff that ain't got nothing to do with nothing. The greatest music that we're never going to hear is on hard drives and studios and engineers' backpacks. 100%. And I think we overthink it. You know what I mean? That's why You know what's crazy Like even with me Even with me being an artist Working on my tape It's like I've been working on it For nine years I've never heard you do this I've been working on my tape For nine years I've been working on my tape For nine years What's your rap name? I don't really I go by the artist The artist with no name No Prince had I wanted to have something deep So it's like the artist With no name I wanted to have something deep You know what I mean? So then when they look up Artist with no name Artist with no name And on the front cover is this going to be a road going to nowhere? You mean the people are you leading to nowhere? No, I'm just saying, is this a road going to nowhere? Because you don't know where I'm going. You like that. That was a good joke. I'm thinking of some video schemes and all that stuff. The money might use it. He said, nah, I don't like that. I don't like that. And then after I drop that project, I'm dropping another project called The Last Nigga on Earth. It is going to be me in the town with nothing else. Like, you remember when Rick came through Atlanta on Walking Dead. You don't remember Walking Dead when Rick first came throwing a horse? You was in jail watching that shit, dog. You ain't watch Walking Dead? He was in Atlanta. This was Atlanta. Y'all see, Davey was telling you the future about when Atlanta, when the zombies come out and everything go. You believe in zombies? No, I'm just saying, Rick was a bad motherfucker on Walking Dead. This is a bad show. So Rick came throwing the horse. You seen Walking Dead before what? Yeah, Walking Dead. You ain't never seen Walking Dead? This is legendary. I don't even know what he was talking about. He was a legend. Rick was a bad motherfucker. Rick was the king of Atlanta. This motherfucker was coming through, killing zombies. He was a bad motherfucker. I know one time he ran Atlanta. I did. So listen, one time. I ran the streets of Atlanta. I told 21 Savage one time. Who was chasing? What happened? So what happened is, I used to be, I had a crew called the Peter Street Steppers. I used to be on Peter Street. I used to be posting. I came down here, me and my man called. So I used to just be posting there. My homegirl had a salon over there right next to Pee Wee Longway spot right there. on top of it. So I used to be on there and I just started a group when they called the Peter Street Steppers. That was my crew. Anybody that was on Peter Street. This was before 2 Chainz had the escobards right there. So I'm on Peter Street, right? So these young boys come up, these little YNs and this is the third. And this was the day I ran Atlanta. So they come up. The day I ran Atlanta. This was the day I ran Atlanta. So they come up. They getting all tough and rough. I said, oh, young boy, don't make all this noise in front of the joint. So when they turned around and looked at me, I seen a bulge in the joint. So I ran from Peter Street all the way to Buckhead I ran from there all the way to Lennox Mall That day I ran Atlanta So people can't say that I ain't run Atlanta If I ran from Peter Street to Lennox Mall So I ran Atlanta I'm putting that on my name You know what I'm saying? But listen man Yeah yeah that was a hike wasn't it? That's a distance That's a hell of a distance But Peter Street Stepper That's why the Stepper was there That's the day the Stepper got added Because I stepped from Peter Street All the way to fucking Linux I got a question for y'all Is it a story Because y'all be telling So much about each other Is it a story That y'all both know That y'all won't tell About each other Oh yeah You know what Don't say that The one joint I won't tell you And I'm going to tell you But Is that Is that Is that He the Listen He the first artist In the history of music To drop a tape That didn't get no downloads Nobody ever downloaded that shit He the first artist I was supposed to tell you They got him in Guinness For this shit Guinness Book of Records Nobody downloaded that shit They was like This nigga ass Like nobody I'm telling you He the first artist In history The money Mike Can get you right bro Start helping him With the content He needed a writer See artists don't know When they need writers But listen That's what y'all do Keep doing your thing man So how old is you And how old is you I'm 49 That nigga 53 How old you I'm 41 Damn I think I'm over y'all lying No I'm 49 I'm for real. I'm forty- You were just forty? I'm forty-six. Talked me and your pop around the same age. Yeah. Your pop gotta be like forty-eight, forty-seven. Ooh. Hold on. What happened? He said, hold on. What was he saying? He said he was forty-seven. No. He said he was forty-seven. Yeah. Oh, I know. See, your pop was my young boy, I used to send him to the store. Give me some of this. This is what I do. So you know this nigga be lying on me now. Now y'all know this nigga be lying on me. Yes. This nigga be lying on me. But listen, Neps, keep doing your own thing. Go out there, check the tape. Listen, OGYN, right? It's coming out. Y'all might see me pop up on there. Fuck, I ain't getting no bars. I might give him a hot 16. Pop up for a music video. No, I got to get on there, man. You got to give me, let me get my bars off. I'm going to do the intro to the music video. Listen, I might get a hot 16. I might get a hot 16. Make sure y'all tap in with. 16 words what you also do a tape called King Demand that's the name of the tape now we're gonna do yin yang you see that you see that you see that kingdom yes see see I'm gonna produce it let me get my credits on this too I just produce you all that's but think about that that sound like a thing See, man, here on him. See, see, that's what I'm saying. You know what niggas said? It sound like a book. No, no, I said King Damani. You wrote that King, you read that King Damani? That's deep, that's deep. Yeah, that seems deep, man. My creative direction is deep, though. You can tell, like, I produce some big albums. You know what I mean? But that's another story. What'd you produce? I wrote for a lot of artists back in the day. I wrote for Mace, I wrote for Cam'ron, I wrote for Jaddy, because I wrote 116 for him, Gil, a couple artists. I really don't put it out there, but now it's a little old, so it don't really matter. But it's deep. It's real deep. I can write for you, King. Just let me know. Hit me up. Hit Oga. Throw a couple 16s. Man, see, that's what I'm saying, man. Like, you getting like him, man. Like, he's the brother that be messing. I understand. He like this guy. You don't get it, man. The YN just beat the OG in pool. He definitely just whooped. The table crooked. So he might get the OG. He might get the OG name because the table crooked, though. Y'all might, we could run a tape back. The tape was a little lopsided. And he had an extra, it was wild. That's wild.