"The All-The-Things Program" (w/ Jennifer Lopez)

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I mean, there was a moment in the new film, Kiss to the Spider Woman, which is great, and our guest is fantastic in it, and we want to talk all about it, where she sort of looks over her shoulder in a bold red lip and smiles, and I was like, I was back, like watching Selena. There's 97 all over again. Oh, my God. I was just like, the countless times this person has brought joy continues to in all forms of media and entertainer in every sense of the word. This has been always a J.Lo Stand podcast, and you guys know that. I think we gay... I think I Love You Poppy was on the great global song book. I think it was on the great global song book. We ranked the top 300 songs of all time. And I Love You Poppy. That's right. That's right. We Love I Love You Poppy. Come on. Come on now. Please, everyone, it's time to welcome into your ears Jennifer Lopez. Hello. Hello. We Love You Poppy. Why add such an introduction? Ever? Oh, maybe. Maybe. You know, are you like a frivolous time every now and then? I love it. I love it. My whole life is a frivolous time. I feel like you get thrown into like, I'm sorry, these like rigid interviews where the people like don't know what to ask you. It's true. And it's a little bit repetitive and everything. So this will be fun, I think. I was looking forward to this. No, this is going to be fun because I have a question for you, which I don't think you get asked a lot. We have something in common. Okay. We're both high school track athletes. Oh, yes. Okay. I want to know your events. Not just high school. I started a track when I was in... I want to say... It's great. That's early. Yeah. So you were running. Five or six years. Fifth or sixth grade. Yeah. Seventh I started. Yeah. Yeah. So what were your events? I was 800. Yeah. Tough. 1500 meter. We did the same. Did you really? So I was a miler. Me too. Yeah. Come on. Middle distance. That was your time. 436. Mine was 450, 50. I think my best one ever was 449. So you were for real? I was for real. Yeah. Well, of course you were. No, I thought that there was times in my life where I thought I would take the athlete. I loved tennis. I had a great backhand that was compared to believe it or not John Maguro right over the net. It would just like sink on the... I don't know how I did it. It just was a natural thing. Sink on the other side. So it was my tennis moment and then I had my track moment and I did it for years and did that and it was in softball. So I was like an athlete. I was like a little tomboy jock person. Same one thing you have an excelled at. I sucked a basketball. Okay. For some reason the finesse of it, I was like a brute strength. 100%. Run stamina person. I feel like you know what I mean? It's a different skill. Totally. Totally. Well, you've mentioned sports that are very passionate. You know what I mean? I feel like track is a very passionate thing. Yeah. Glory. Yeah. Chariots of fire. Let's go. I can hear it in my theme song. There was a couple of movies about Steve pre-Fontaine. I think it was a distance runner. Billy Crude played a moment. We'd watch it all the time. There's like those movies are so inspiring. Yeah. Inspiring. Yes. And I feel like... It's the keep on going factor of it all. Yeah. You can't stop me. I will do it. But then when did you... I had that energy. I was going to ask. This is like a broad question, but I feel like it is apropos. It's like that passion. Like I feel like that's like a through line in your career. I feel like this movie, the kiss of the spider woman is such a passionate performance. You can feel it in all the lines that you dance and everything that you do. Thank you. And when I was reading about your athletic past, I was like, there's something about track running and tennis I was going to say as well. Yeah. It is very passionate. Yeah. But have you always been a passionate person even as a kid? I think so. Yeah. I think so. I think that's just something that you're born with. It's not something you kind of develop. You have a deep well of feeling, right? And I feel like even when I had my first therapist, she was like, you feel very deeply. And I think it's an artist thing too. Yeah. It's like where I'm not afraid of those emotions. I like the way they feel. It makes me feel alive, I guess in a sense. And so I've always been that way. But was there like a precipice of you like, because you were saying you had to like make the choice. I mean, did that feel like a commitment where you were like, I guess I'm going to go down like this performer path? I just loved singing and dancing and acting. I just loved it more. Well, this is... You loved it more. Loved it more than what was happening with the sports for me, which was great. I mean, I had a wall full of trophies and medals and my parents would put them up. They were like the whole wall. You know, every weekend I was going to a track and winning and it was fun. Yeah. But it didn't like, it wasn't my passion. It didn't fulfill me. I was good at it. I think it was like a kind of a training ground for discipline. For what I do here. Yeah. At a certain point, like I think people that don't have like, you know, because you did have like a dramatic past, like in terms of like high school, you did musicals and stuff. I did. I did. Yeah. So that must have been a schedule, by the way, like being a full athlete and doing the musicals. Well, by the time I got into high school, I was full arts. Yeah. Okay. Okay, cool. I was transitioned out by the time I was a freshman and I was like, I'm just a theater girl. That's what I'm going to do. Yeah. But the athletic past does prepare you for that. 100%. It actually gives you a leg up on everybody because you're a hard worker for the discipline of just like, I will work from now to then. It's not like, well, you know how wishy-washy artists sometimes you kind of like, you know, do a thing where you're like, I'm so tired. I can't do this right now. That was never in my vocabulary. That was never me. You learned losing too. I really need to sit down. No. No sitting down. Yeah. No sitting down. Run another lap. Yep. When you hosted SNL when I was there, I feel like that was the thing. Not that it surprised me, but it was like, okay, JLo's like in this. Yeah, she's a worker. She's a worker. I mean, you and I were like sitting next to each other just like in between like, just the actress. I was like, oh yeah, like she's not going back to her dressing room. She's just like, she's a kid. On set. On set, baby. Once I get on set, I'm on set. Yeah. I get ready. I may come out 15, 20 minutes late. Whatever. You know, whatever, but I do. Yeah. But I do. But you come and you don't have to stop a lot. But when I go, we're going to make up the time. Exactly. Yeah. We're going to get out early. Because you're going to be over. You're going to be over. You don't stop early when you're younger, but when you get older, you're like, please get me home. Yeah. Yeah. Let's go home. 100%. Give me my time back. Yeah. Because you guys did not have that much time to shoot this, Spider-Woman. No, no, that was the one thing. Everybody's like, what was the most challenging thing about this? Or what was the hardest thing? It was the time. Yeah. We didn't have like, you guys probably had a ton of time to do the wicked stuff. Yeah. Like you worked on it for two years, two movies, right? We just, it was so fast. It was like what, six weeks? It was four weeks of shooting for me. Wow. And then they shot another four weeks, I think, the prison. It's nothing. Side of it. And I had, you know, I started learning my songs the minute that I got the role, right? I was just like, okay, I'm going to learn all these songs. I'm going to be ready. But we didn't really start rehearsing until a few weeks before. Diego was panicked and so was, we were all panicked in a sense. And we just didn't have a lot of time. They didn't have a lot of time to create it, to do it, to do it. So it was just like, crash course. Talk about being on the set all the time or being in rehearsal all the time. It was just very challenging. Sometimes we would have to do like two musical numbers in a day. Right. One for six hours. And these are intricate big set pieces. And you wanted to shoot them in one take? Nope. I don't want to say this is my motherfucker, but they love my motherfucker. I don't know if you could say that on podcasts. We could say motherfucker on podcasts. This might be one of my first podcasts. So you have to, um, it's one of them. Oh my goodness. No, but we were so excited you were coming. Like you have to know, like this is, and I said, it brought me all the way back to Selena. And I feel like while you're here, we do have to talk about that. And specifically one thing. So you, this movie came out in 97 just to go all the way back. So it would be a couple of years before you, you know, had your debut pop album, which was on the six, which was one of the great debut pop albums. And like really changed pop music, you know, brought all that like Latin movement in you, Ricky and Ricky. That was explosion. Yes. Yeah. And I was thinking about Selena and there's a scene where you're in the stadium and it's like, it's a full pack stadium and you turn around and you have a smile and you, you hold the screen and the whole space. But yet you didn't have experience doing that at the time. And I think now when we watch the movie, we take for granted. Oh, of course there's J.Lo in a stadium. We know the image of that. But at the time, that was not a thing that you had been accustomed to doing. No, the only thing I had was the footage of Selena and watching her do it. And luckily I had great footage of her. And when I tell you I studied this footage, I could tell you every step, every way her finger moved her eyebrows, everything. I just was so focused on trying to get her right for everybody because she had passed away. And I was just that scene. I know exactly what shot you're talking about. And I haven't seen the movie in years, but I remember it. It was the way she took in the audience of 70,000 people and selling out the Astrodome and just like a little girl who had dreamt of this and whose father's dream and there they were. And she was the first, I believe, to handle artists to sell out the Houston Astrodome. 70,000 people. That's a lot. She was 23, you know, it was, it was a big, big deal. And she just stood there and kind of looked around. And I had to kind of put forth the feeling of everything that moment meant, right? Yeah. For her, for her dad, for her family, for everything, right? So it was a big moment, but it was definitely the footage that I had that helped me get there. But how much of that was you studying the footage for accuracy and how much of that was like you, Jennifer, like letting your soulfulness, your humanity, like kind of like project on, onto the screen, onto the camera. Like, there has to be some of you in that. You, you can't help but stand there as yourself, right? But as an actor, and I very much was in the actor mindset of doing that and not being myself, you can still get there. You can still have that happen. You can still feel those feelings and feel the, because 35,000 people had showed up as extras for that scene. For her. They didn't know who the hell I was. So that's what that was. They were there because they knew it was a sliena movie. And they knew it was a sliena movie. It was a come down to the sliena movie and they had, you know, they CGI'd the rest of the set, but 35,000 people just showed up for her movie after. Yeah. You know, for devotion. So I'm sitting, standing there and I come in on the little horse in carriage and how she gave in and I, and I step up to the stage and the lights go off. And when the lights go off, they explode. I mean, I get gooseies right now thinking about it. And they hadn't, I had never felt that. No. But again, me, I would have fallen apart and be like, oh my God. Right. If I was Jennifer, but in that moment, she's a seasoned performer who has, you know, performed on many, many stages. And I just, with all of the composure of the world, did exactly what she did in that moment, which was take the stage as a superstar that she had become. Wow. That's the discipline of you, like running. Well, that's an actor. Yeah. Yeah. It's Jim. Just voice out in you because I'm so busy. I can't even type right now. I'm working on that big presentation from my new launch. I'm making it on Canva Mobile, like you suggested. It is making everything iconic. It's a bit noisy, folks. It is going off. Anyways, I'm going to ping the presentation to you now so you can see what I mean. It's a good idea. It's a good idea. It's a good idea. It's so shocking to me that Kids of the Spider Woman is your first musical theater project. Wild. Wild because I feel like you've expressed that your influences have been like Strysander, these like MGM 20th Century, Moss Columbia, old school movie musicals. Rita Moreno. Yeah. Rita Moreno and like your you know and like the bi-bi-birdy thing would have been so amazing. Oh my god yeah. I feel like this is the perfect thing for you and I what was that wish fulfillment like for you to like do it in this way in this heightened way that felt cinematic and technical or in all that. You know it was amazing when I read the script I was blown away I was like oh my god it's happening. Has this happened right now? Yes I'm getting the opportunity. Okay I'm gonna sing I'm gonna dance I'm gonna play the three characters I'm gonna do the Cheetah did it to you know it. Yes. It was like a pinch me moment for sure. It was just so exciting. So exciting. And you're right I had you know dreamt of doing this for years but I'm a big believer and I've had to be and if you're gonna have a long career you have to come to peace with what's yours is yours and nobody can take it away but also conversely what's not for you is not for you and you have to be understand like I really have seen it when I look at my career because people make me talk about it. Do you know what I mean? People make me talk about your career. It's not like something I'm sitting at home. Of course. But when you talk about it you go wow the things that came to me came to me when I was ready. Yeah. For them and not a second sooner. And you have to be at peace with that part of it because it's so easy in this business ago this person is doing this and this person is doing that and why don't I have this movie and why didn't I get a chance at that and a long time ago I just you know decided I'm on my own path here. I'm on my own trajectory my own journey. I have a whole different thing than anybody else has and so does each person and I'm okay with that. I'm okay with how mine plays out because it has to do with how and what I need to grow and evolve as a person and as a human not just as an artist. And so that part of it I've been able to kind of really embrace. Yes. I also feel like something about you that I really love is that you always are thinking about how you're going to entertain your audience. Oh my God. I feel like that's all about them. Yeah. And because when we get so many different kinds of projects from you and different forms of media and I'm just thinking about how it almost calls back to like you have to make a choice between being an athlete and then being an artist but it feels like with your career you've said you know what I'm not really going to make that choice like because there was that run of like critical success in terms of film and then you pivoted to a pop career and you would think because really people didn't do both but you did both so well and sort of prove that you could. I mean I believe first woman to have the number one box office movie and album at the same time. Yeah. Like these are big trailblazing moments that I guess you can't have if you're not thinking like I know this is going to be a way that entertains people and I'm going to be great at it. Yeah. I want you have to that's the thing. Like there's so much noise and now it's even worse with social media. There's so much noise of what people will tell you you can and can't do or what you should do or what you do well or what you don't do well or they need to do this or they need to go away like all this stuff but the truth is only really you know what feels right to you and when I was acting and like you said having like this critical acclaim in the beginning of my career with these movies and working with directors like Francis Ford, Cobal and Oliver Stone and all these Soderbergh and all these people and then I decided I wanted to do a pop I wanted to do you know the Madonna, Janet Jackson thing which is what also some of my idols growing up. Yeah. People were like are you fucking crazy and I'm like no I just did the movie Selena and this is what I want to do. Yeah. So it was that it was that me was that like the moment Selena. Yeah. It was right after Selena and it didn't happen right away but I that's that's where I started kind of heading and it wasn't until Tommy Matola came across a demo of mine that I did right after Selena that he was like oh let's get you in here this girl actually can do this and that's when it all happened. Yeah. But the point is like you can only you know. Only you know. I knew that I could do it. I wanted to do it. Yeah. And so I did it you know and that was and I didn't understand no and that's the beauty of being like young and ignorant a little bit. Yeah. Is that you're like don't know all the things that could go wrong. Right. I kind of just go forth to conquer and I I knew I didn't know how I would reconcile the movie career and the music career but I knew I could do both. So why not do both. For right. Well it almost feels like because they're with the pop career like you already were a household name created Google images and all but like then the pop career sort of brings you this mainstream like sort of you know conversation that you're in with the audience and I feel like that leads to you being in some of the defining romance of comedies of that time. Right. And for me I was I was going to ask about like the way you have such great chemistry with so many different kinds of leading men. Like I don't think you get much more different than McConaughey and Ray Fiennes. I know. But yet you you as like you are like the thing that I don't know it's just I can't fall in love with anybody. But people want to do you. That's true. That's the bad quote from here. We're not taking it. But no my point is I feel like I don't know if it's because I'm a romantic and I so believe in love even kiss a spider woman for me is only about love is is I'm able to kind of have that chemistry with people and with all different kinds of people. I'm able to kind of see through this and get to kind of like who the person is on the inside and really fall in love with that person for that moment between like you like they say between you know action and cut. There's like a new kind of chemistry in this movie though where which I'm curious about what you think about this. There's a chemistry between you as the leading woman in the lead role and like a queer person who projects themselves onto you and I feel like love. This is my favorite thing. Good. Like like like like Molina turn it to you like projecting themselves onto you. I was watching I was like I've been doing this with J.Lo my whole fucking life. I've been like I want to be like where she you know literally like I would like I wonder if you feel like that is a new thing you haven't explored in this film like that dynamic between like a gay man and a woman who is just shiny and bright the worship. You know I of the three characters I play in kiss of the spider woman I play Ingrid Luna who is that character right. She is the actress that he idolizes and she does a movie called kiss of the spider woman that she shares with Valentin his prison cellmate and in that movie he's saying Ingrid Luna plays these two parts she plays kiss of the spider woman and she plays Aurora and he identifies very much with Aurora but he identifies with all of them and she is the powerhouse performer Ingrid Luna right who you know like you said he looks up to and he wants to be like and she's the perfect woman and in this movie in particular she's like the siren and she's amazing and all of that and it's funny because I identified most now with the spider woman now with the Aurora even though there were parts of me that I feel were very much like each of those characters they're very different but Ingrid Luna was the one that was most like me right because she's the entertainer. She's the vessel for all these different things. And one of my favorite moments in the movie was doing where you are. Oh my God it's a showstopper. Really striking. Right so that's where I say to him like come with me let's escape together let's escape into this song let's escape into this movie let's escape into this world forget you're in a prison don't be where you are be with me let's go have fun and I can't tell you how many times in my own life I have had someone come up to me and say this song got me through this or this you know movie made me dream and want to do what I'm doing today and today I'm a set decorator or whatever it is like so many different stories this one helped me get through my mom she died when I was 12 and you became like my pseudo mom out there you know and the more I kind of keep going they keep going and when they see me fall down and they see me get back up but what they don't realize and what I love about the movie and I love about that number where you are is that he saves her too. In that she goes you know she touches his face at the end and it was very important to me I was like can he put his head on my shoulder please Bill and can I just touch his face there I know that there's a separation of like the movie and it's not real and all of that in the movie but the movie was in the movie I said but I really feel like I want to touch and when I say my sweetest fan I said because he does the same thing for her that she does for him right. She immortalized her. And because I can't tell you that in the hardest times of my personal life how my own you know fans and followers get me through. They get you through they really do because you go I can't let them down I can't fall right now I can't I can get through this and I can show them that I can get through this and it is going to be okay. Not only is it going to be okay and I do this with my kids as well it's like I'm going to get through and I said this to my kids we're going to get through this we're going to be better better I'm going to be stronger and you're going to see that and you're going to see that you can do it in your own life too. But that relationship is such an important relationship and a real relationship in my life even though we don't know each other personally it's a real relationship. I was going to ask because I feel like you've withstood so many different forms of weird celebrity culture right like tabloid shit then the paparazzi peak of like the like the odds now it's like Stan culture and just the Internet social media and social media. It's like I was going to ask you like how you maintain that humanity throughout that those different eras of celebrity culture but I feel like you've answered it like it's the fans that get you through and it's all the same right whether it was the tabloid or whether it's social media or whatever it is or the normal media any of it and people can be harsh and cruel. It was the same thing when I first started and you get your first bad review or you get your first thing you learn that it does not define you right that you know who you are and the more I could put my feet on the ground and go who am I who am I do I know who I am and it sets you on a search to really be in touch with yourself all the time because it's so easy to listen to and this is anybody you don't have to be a celebrity for people to kind of say things about you and go you know and they destroy you they destroy a side of you you know they hurt your ego they hurt your your mind they live inside rent free in your head all of those things right but the truth is is if you really know who you are and you stick to that and you stay close to that I have a really try to have a really strong relationship with God and myself first before I can have it with anybody else and this I've learned over years it's not something I have figured out you know when I was younger but when I was younger and I first started in the business I used to say to myself when I put my head down on the pillow at night am I proud of who I am right am I proud of what I did today did I treat people well did I do my best was I kind you know and those things are the things that matter to me and I can put my head down a pillow and say those things so it doesn't matter what other people think or think they know or think they hear or doesn't it doesn't really affect me yeah in that way because on the flip side of this I think it's my favorite thing about your work is this thing that you do where it feels like there's this cultural need around like what J.Lo can do and it's like every every few years it's like oh yeah I forgot that she was an amazing dancer I forgot that she or I forgot that she was so funny oh I forgot that she oh my god she looks good in all these clothes oh my god I forgot she's a good singer it's like there's all these like it's like you're re-auditioning for like all the time it's because like they get lost in the sauce of like what people what the chatter is but meanwhile you know that you can do all these things and you're just reminding people all the time yeah but I'm it's not even that part of reminding them it's I keep doing what I love to do no matter what yeah I'm in the pursuit of kind of finding projects and things that excite me and just doing that and what I'm learning to do more of now is weight and not do all the things that excite me gotcha like give me a look like weight it's a little it's it's hard yeah but last year when I had to cancel my tour and I took a whole year off I finished Spider Woman last March and I didn't start another movie till the following this following March I did Office Romance and during that year I was I literally just sat in like a rocking chair yeah you know I was with yeah but I was with my kids I really wanted them to feel me and I didn't want to be away from them and we reconnected in a way because I've always been a working single mom for most of their life and so it was it was so nice for them to have me there every single day for a year which was so different for them and for me but also for me while they're at school and while they're doing whatever they're doing or their way at camp or doing their things with their friends it's just me by myself and I got to really kind of feel good about it's not ever going away yeah it's there you've done it like you you proved it you did it you did it and you're maybe like like you have nothing to prove you should just be doing shit you love when you want to do it and you don't have to do all the things but I was on the all the things program for a long time the all the things program yes I do it's like yeah I'll do that I'll do that I'll do that because I loved it and I was just you're feeling a hole you realize that you're feeling a hole in that way it's not even that it's just that you were again like raising these kids and now they're what like and their teens like they're about to go into college next year they're graduating this year whoa that's wild the twins it's crazy you're letting that go slow like that's that that part of your life is fading out like well not it's not fading out just motherhood is changing it's different and so then all these other things start to follow away too yeah you know maybe that's it it's not feeling avoid necessarily I mean back in the day I feel like it a little bit was and now and what I'm saying is like I've learned that I can there can be times when I'm doing nothing and it's okay yeah I it's important it's him it's actually gonna make me better yeah it's actually when I do take on something that really excites me does this really now I do the thing where it's like I drive everybody crazy so this is really exciting I mean it's gonna take time away from the house and do I want to do that no I'm gonna pass on that I'm gonna stay home yeah I'm gonna stay I'm gonna pick out pillows online oh totally no you know what I mean it's crazy the online shopping is a problem you know what you're thinking about retail therapy it works it's so crazy no but it's just like the city I'm gonna I'll be here sitting in the rocking chair yeah thinking about life dreaming about things dreaming about the next thing and what it'll be like and you know that type of thing well that's also a big part of the creative process too absolutely is the silence I think I believe it was Makilla Coel who like and when she won her Emmy she gave the most beautiful speech she was like don't be afraid of the silence go to the silence because the silence is what's gonna tell you what the next thing is and that thing that you hear in the silence might be scary but don't be afraid yeah like to do the 100 what room was the rocking chair in it's outside online back porch faces the tree in the backyard yeah and oh and it was it's by a little fireplace and I just sit there and look at the sky oh what kind of rocking chair is it vintage it's it's in no it's like an outdoor right it's vintagey looking yeah 100% and I sit there with it's very funny it's a little bit granny I sit there with a blanket on my lap I put my feet up I put like my iPad over here in case I need to online yeah of course yeah and I just and I just sit there and people call or they don't call and a lot of times I'll listen to a book or I'll read a book or you know and then I'll think about that and I'll take notes on the book and yeah it's just elevating my consciousness you have to that's how peaceful and great it's fantastic they get a little tea this little tea moment I like a pretty tea cup yeah you know just I would imagine normal stuff also like even just the opportunity to be by yourself period yeah is great because like when you are you I would imagine it's a lot of people it's a lot of being handled yeah it's a lot of time yeah and then you know to say nothing of like everyone out there in the world wanting to learn it's just like a lot of physical people touching and moving and handling and stuff like that 100% I was just in the back I stopped to just go to the bathroom here on the way in here somebody comes in while I'm being they're ready I'm like are you serious right now I'll be right there we sent them in there I'll be there in two seconds no but it's I sometimes think about that like we obviously do shows in tour in a totally different way but it is kind of interesting when like it's excitement and then the silence oh yeah like just that lifestyle you know I love I love that I love you know I was on tour this I loved being on tour this summer and it was like stadium and then it was like nothing yeah it's like a bath yeah yeah it's yummy cabri dairy milk bars are made to share but how do you decide who gets what if you spend ages looking for the TV remote you get the most chunks and if you were 100% without a doubt not sitting on it but definitely were sorry you get less cabri made to share pick up a limited edition bar now I think it's time to ask Jennifer Lopez the question yes okay so Jennifer Lopez we I feel like we're getting a little hints as we talk yeah but this is the central question of our podcast which is what was the culture that made you say culture was for you like defining art or other other things in your life that I would have to say it was my mom showing me west side story and then barba schreisand and funny girl you're in the right place two moments for me just I could never live up to what that is I will always be chasing that in a way because it was as a little girl I was just like this is what I want to do with my life this is the culture whatever this culture is whatever this world is that's what I want to be doing and I feel like I'm just arriving there now with kiss the spider women and I feel like my my world now is going to it's like returning to yourself yeah again right like back to the the the little girl the dreams and having that opportunity to do that and now like incorporating that to everything like now I'm doing setting up my Vegas residency you know for New Year's Eve and all of that calcium right scissors scissors at the calcium where Adele just was and I'm you know thinking of like doing a totally different type of show than I've ever done wow it's gonna be and it's still you know as entertaining as ever but even more so in a different way incorporating these things that were always my influences since I was a little girl so it's gonna be fun that's one of the reasons why I'm so excited that you landed in this chair for this movie because I knew it would connect to this question and I feel like when you say Barbara Streisand funny girl oh my god like he shared that when you got when you came to host SNL you had a Barbara bag the coach bag yes it was the first I texted him right after I was like oh my god Jaila I commented on Jaila Streisand bag and she goes funny girl my mom would play that movie on a loop when I was a little kid I mean there was no other movies for me except West Side Story of Funny Girl that's it it made me want to do what I did with my life and still inspires me to reach for that that level of what they did in those movies you should put a boy like that on the set list for for the causing you would tear it up you would you know it's funny I'll invite you both to the show so you can see we'll see what I'm doing it's very different I'm gonna do all my hits all my songs but it's gonna be you know I'm excited yeah well what were you identifying within West Side Story like where you're like I'm Natalie Wood or I'm Rita Moreno yeah of course you are I wanted to be like the gang leader is a girlfriend yeah of course the glam factor of that who was dancing in the middle of the gym and stealing the show and yeah but I just loved her I loved her so much and Rita Moreno was so good in that and in a boy like that I mean it's just uh in America the whole thing America is one of the best it's still one of the best musicals the one that's ever made yeah ever ever ever yeah and they did an amazing job with the with the reboot as well I agree like I thought and that number in particular too I was like so like grand and it really blew me away yeah from funny girl it would be my man I see I sing it I sung it many times I love it um there's there's so many songs it's a great show winning of itself yeah yeah I love it I think my man I remember just that last moment and knowing the story it's just all black and she stands there forever yeah whatever yeah yeah I love that one I sang that for my kid's dad's birthday when he turned 40 I threw him a big birthday party I had ran a triathlon that day casual doing all the things program you get up all the things all the things program is title of that all the things program because the kids were six months old he was turning 40 in September and I decided when the kids when I was still burning I was like I'm gonna do a triathlon when the kids after I give birth yeah to get back into shape wow yeah just a casual triathlon right but I was like I'm giving myself a goal there was a show on tv and this kid was like I'm gonna do a triathlon I was like I can do a tram like they're like a beached whale like twins 50 pounds my belly and I'm looking at it and I'm thinking I'm gonna do a triathlon and I started looking to see when a triathlon was and there was one in Malibu on September whatever and then it just so happened that mark was turning 40 years old and I was like well his birthday is on the same day we'll do the party and it will throw him off because I'll do the triathlon that morning that will be the focus and then we're gonna just go back home and whatever and oh so-and-so is having a dinner and we have to go to it but we'll get changed on the plane and whatever and we walk in I mean surprise he's like what the hell is happening huge surprise and then I disappear and he's like where did Jennifer disappear to and then I come out and I sing my man uh just a casual day that's a fourth sport I didn't have it yeah surely I realize now as I say it out loud how crazy it is because I haven't talked about that in 20 years yeah I don't know the running swimming biking and sing and belting belting belting belting Barbara wow yeah I killed for that yeah that was fun that was a fun day yeah so where you were and then we left to Europe that night oh come on vacation with the babies there you go were you pleased with your time in the triathlon or do you I guess you didn't have much to compare it to you were good I was I have stories about the triathlon that are crazy um what happened during it yes yeah well the swim is the crazy thing crazy right you know you're going you're looking at the ocean for the first time and you're like I'm going in there to the buoy but not the first one the third one yeah okay I'm sure there's sharks out there no 100% I'm almost positive that there's big fish in there yeah which is not going through your mind when you're like I'm gonna do a triathlon when you're in the pool you know at the at the high school very swimming 70 laps you're feeling like you're a wonder woman no no it was it was crazy but I I did it and you're supposed to have like your bike set up you know your bike set up so when you come out of the water with your wet suit you peel off the wetsuit right you go over and you know you get on your bike you put on your sneakers and then you bike for 18 miles or whatever it is and then you run four miles after that so you have to have your running sneakers on on the whatever so yeah have you ever run a marathon no I mean like is no that feels like it would be too hard right it's crazy town it's crazy town and it feels like now there's this for me well sure I mean it's like for anybody and like now I don't know like Harry Styles running the Berlin marathon now is just like making me go like okay like is this a thing that I should do no not that you should do but like is this a thing that like is like a new PR thing for certain people to do like in terms of I think it's what we were just talking about I think this is his version of like I'm taking the time to find I'm gonna run a marathon because I make human being and not everything can be sometimes you're just like don't you get like especially when people put a lot of things on you of course kind of like want to go what's for me yeah what am I doing for me all right you know and I think that the triathlon for me I remember going down when I was pregnant into a room and I looked and I saw that you know I had like two these my awards were in there and I there was an American music award and I had just won for best pop land album the year before the kids were born and I was like well oh good because I wanted them to be proud of me of their mom and I'm like right now there and I'm looking I go okay well that was just this year so that's good it wasn't like I wanted 10 years ago or something like that and I think the triathlon was part of that it was I want them to be proud of me now they've never I've told them the story they care they could care less you know I mean okay he ran a triathlon but you know one day maybe they'll think of it and go wow well they're probably getting to six months after she had me yeah they're probably getting to the age now you sort of treat your mom with edge because you don't want to feel no no no they think you're the dumbest person right exactly that was my my wife saying it well they have to individuate yeah they have to go they're so dependent on you those first 10 12 years that once they get into the preteen 11 12 they start going I can do this without you so they have to make you the dumbest person in the world I have to go I'm smarter than you I can do that and they really do think they're smarter than you you know and that you don't get it and that you don't understand anything for a little while and then they get to a point which is I think where we're I'm now with my kids yeah um where they start appreciating you again yeah because you're still there through all of the things that they threw at you you know and all the ways that they were kind of like and they still have a little bit of that yeah but they really are proud of you and they love you and appreciate you and it's it's a beautiful thing but it's stages you know just like life there's stages do they watch like I guess it's like if you had to put something in front of them that you're like I want to watch I want you to watch this thing that I did what is that thing nothing no no did you get nervous about it oh yeah yeah yeah because they're the ones they came in for the premiere of this yeah because we live in LA and they and I'm doing a movie here and so they flew in to go to the premiere tomorrow night amazing and it's funny they saw the CBS this morning that I did and I talked about the kids on that and Max said they told me on my dad who was taking care of them was like Max said um I'm actually looking forward to this one do you think it's because he knows this is a skill set that you like really what do you think it is that made him say that I think I think it's the singing the dancing and the acting I think they've seen movies of mine I think they've seen me they've seen me on tour since they were babies you know um but they they haven't seen anything quite like this and I think my both my kids are very very bright they were both very intelligent and kind of aware as this generation is of the world and all the things going on and I think they realize that this is an important movie representation and inclusion and what it stands for and I think they get proud of things like that they are like oh I like that I like that mom is doing that you know it matters to them I know how much it mattered to see Rita Moreno in a movie playing the gangster's girlfriend it made me have the life I have today made me realize that I could be a singer dancer actress right like I could do that because she was Puerto Rican that mattered to me to see that and it matters to them to see these things you know I think the movie is about that I think Spider-Woman is about fantasy being escape fantasy being especially in times of political turmoil it helps you get through it helps you get through fantasy of survival in a time when it's it's it's a movie about just queerness and it's about two men who couldn't be more different yes than each other one is like this cisgender revolutionary political guy who's at the front of the lines fighting and the other one's a trans window dresser who's a feminine and who is like you know couldn't be on they couldn't be on the spectrum right and how being in this situation they get to really experience each other's humanity and they fall in love and it becomes something beautiful you love somebody you never thought you could love somebody you don't understand their political views you don't understand their gender you don't understand their preferences you don't understand anything about where they grew up or anything like that and it shows us it reminds us what Manuel Puig wrote in that novel back in the day it reminds us that love and humanity and the soul of a person is much more important than the shell or their circumstances or where they grew up or what they are right like that who they are inside is really the thing that matters and that love can transcend all of that if we just allow ourselves to be loving yeah and I think that is the important message of the movie it's the perfect project for you because you get to fulfill all these things that have always defined who you are as an artist it's a very relevant film right now of course absolutely for the reasons you said and beyond and beyond and you get to sing candor and ebb songs and it's like terence mcnally it's like these are the highest levels of theater and musical theater it's like it's the perfect intersection the thing that you said that I said earlier was just like what's what was it came to me when I was ready for it and honestly you mentioned John candor and Fred ebb who people know did Chicago and all of the these great musicals and cabaret and all of this and kiss the spider woman and to be able to sing a song all of those songs because I have 10 musical numbers in the movie yeah two in a day two in a while musical numbers in the movie but I also had a brand new song of theirs called never you yes which they had never put in the musical and we wanted it they wanted a he had saved this song I guess and it was like let's use this in there for Armando and for Aurora and when I heard it I was just blown away I said okay so who who's the template like who why do I sing it he could they go no no you sing it like you you sing it how you would sing it you're Aurora wow you're Ingrid Luna yeah that's why you're so perfect and that's when it kind of hit me and I was like oh okay yeah all right listen I can't listen to cheetah's version I can't listen to anything it's all the people who sang it on Broadway I just have to it's me and I get to do that and that was such a blessing yeah and such a privilege and I'm so happy and feel so blessed to have been able to do it yeah and I this is a gift it was a real gift it's done so well and also like you don't get a better director than hit the don't go down I mean you must have been a dream girls fan too of course yeah come on now beauty and the beast yeah all of it all of it yes even gods and monsters have you ever seen that I don't think I've seen God the monster in mckelyn and uh brendan frazer wow yeah yeah really good and chicago and and screenplay well obviously yeah yeah well chicago was rob marshall but but but Bill cotton wrote it oh he's wrote the movie oh wow you forget that or I forgot about this and directed it directed yeah it's really amazing I do want to say just in terms of like speaking to the to like you know the bravery of this movie and how prescient it is there's so many indelible images of you throughout your career you know what I mean like I mentioned you just as salina smiling in front of that stadium etc I could list on and on but I do want you to know now at the super bowl when you put up that Puerto Rican flag like you just like seas again you just you lifted so many people's spirits like including my own and I'm obviously not from Puerto Rico but just to see your pride especially in that moment and as you know conversations happen about you know bad bunny doing the super bowl coming up I just like really want you to know that that will always stay with me and so many people that were watching it and especially you being up there with your daughter that that you and Shakira together I did watch documentary I know there was some strife about like we're gonna share it like I deserve my own which you do and so did she but I will say that like boom hit turn I know it made me so happy and I can't imagine it different but I know that's that's a role with one of the great super bowl halftime I think it's that thing of like what's for you and how it's for you is how it happens when you're ready for it like I don't think I was ready 10 years before that to do this a super bowl and when it came around it was meant for her and I to do together and I see that now and there's moments where you like you you get like come on because we were she's trying to fit her whole disography and I'm trying to fit mine into like not 15 minutes now seven minutes and so it was frustrating it really was but at the end of the day it really was meant to be in the way that it happened in such a beautiful way and you're right that that that for me being able to make those kind of very palatable political statements in a way like where people could receive it yes no matter who you were whether you were Latino or not or if you were a woman or not it did it was so important for me and it was important for me because my kid was there singing with me and all those little girls that were on stage with me that day and representing all the kids in cages and all of the things and the woman on top of the world on top of the empire still building or you know celebrating the sexuality of being on a stripper pole and but then like look my no hands in the middle all of it was very intentional yeah and one of the best things in my life but as I said and people may have seen this where I was I literally just started crying it just caught me by surprise thinking about my child kind of yelling back at me I'm gonna live my life 100% I was just like I can't I can't but it was just it was it was everything it was everything in a moment of life every all of my worlds collided in that moment you know what I mean from growing up and being you know a little porter you can grow on the Bronx to you know my work as an artist and my singing and my dancing and being Latin and having a child and being a mother and all of it just the pride of all of those things that you can have in one moment and all of it coming together was just it's kind of like a lightning bolt yeah you'll always you'll always have that and we'll always have it on YouTube because you know the guys like we're playing with it at music video you know about that right like the gay pre games that happen you know they go through the Super Bowl night you don't know about gay guys' music video night is big what is this so it's just when gay guys get together at a pre game before you go out and you put music videos on or a post game and you know you come back and watch all your videos yes 100% I'm telling you like I am I never invited you're invited to the next you're invited me we'll come after Caesars we'll do it in Vegas that'll be real trouble yes yes yes the answer is yes it's very fine you'll love it okay so we've come to I don't think so honey which is our segment in this podcast where we take 60 seconds that's one minute look it up to rant against something in culture I have something that is specific to our gas okay here we go here we go this is Matt Rodgers I don't think so many times starts now I don't think so honey that you can wear the color green if you're not this woman you can't wear green at the Super Bowl when they had that neon green lights from the waiting for tonight video and she said never forget hustlers on the pole I said I stood up and I said she owns that color because it's not just I bet you thought J.Lo Green you thought about Versace green dress no baby I did the waiting for tonight music video the color of the six the color of the six hello it's all coming around hello I saw her show up to the premiere of Wicked I said that's because Alpha was green yes and Alphaba I have news for you you get green during this press tour that's it that's it and green returns to our guests I'm telling you I I have to imagine that our guests can rock every single color but there's nothing like the green something pops up everyone elevates I feel better about my life my shoulders drop when I see that neon green waiting for tonight I second let's go google image Jennifer Lopez green you're gonna get a ton of good shit I don't think so honey and that's one minute I can't do that can I say you're not expected to do that my drop that's it that's it by the way I've always said green is my lucky color I don't say it's my favorite color it's my lucky color for whatever reason I'm always in green when everything goes right can I tell you something I can't believe it's not your favorite color for that reason I do love it I do love it as a favorite color but I've always said I'm never say it's my favorite color I always go it's my lucky color lucky and favorite or different but what's your favorite right now in this moment today my favorite color today today um I would say it's a green especially after that you can't come through not with green after that I was like do I have another color there no green it's a yeah for your eyes green they have a little bit of green and yeah yes yes yes beautiful but I mean I just like I'll just uh the waiting first of all waiting for tonight if you do you have a favorite JLo song um because mine is waiting for tonight is it thank you um and get right of course I don't know I don't know okay it's I mean it's hard to say because it's a lot of time I mean get right that's one of my favorite songs to perform yes but also just the end of it it gets like so like does it wait when the beat drops out yeah yeah yeah I love it and we do the dance bravo yes well I start singing and scream the mark did a little bit of it wow the mark of like um this because the second you hear waiting for tonight like that yeah and then and you're just like no let me ask you a question let me ask you a question I think is since you brought up waiting for tonight I many times will put in the show the remix of waiting for tonight do you miss the original I think the original is a classic okay okay okay okay that's all I need to hear it's not about missing it because the remix is sick like anything anything you can do but I always perform it because I feel like it's more exciting like the lasers the lasers came from I love the lasers you know and we can have the lasers and with the original I mean I feel like but the original is just it's a classic yes but this is but this is your dilemma like the original is a classic but that's if you want to like really bring it bring it like down and ground and you want people to like really lean in and listen to you sing if you're playing the remix we're all jumping and singing along right right right it depends on what you want what's happening yeah what section of the show it's in there you go yeah I don't think that's helpful like we're not really giving you like a decision no no I wanted to know because Benny and I my longtime manager godfather to my kids and one of my best friends and my brother icon um he we always argue about that we are because he always wants me to do the original and I I never do the original I always do the remix live because I just feel like it's more exciting sure and he's like a matchup what about you start I know you probably had every conversation I know but I'm thinking I don't know in my in this new era of mine where I'm making the new show and creating something really new but maybe I'll go back to that is there a way to make it very dramatic and musical theater in the beginning and then it kicks in yeah there's all kinds of things I've done a lot of different things waiting for tonight when I opened the American Music Awards I sang waiting for tonight I did it kind of like a legato very slow very this and then we went into that big medley there's a different there's a lot of different ways to do it yeah I also want to say in terms of favorite songs before but when does that I don't think so honey I would sing no my knowing no Spanish and I would just pretend I'm the my honest and I would just kind of give what I thought the words what it is but my mom was just like yeah I can't have you sing in gibberish anymore because you know it was on all the time in the house I love that album it's like the k-pop thing it's like I was making the words up it's like you don't know necessarily what's being communicated but it transcends the language oh no it's such a beautiful song I love that song um yeah I'm just talking about you know you songs in general that are in English you don't I mean yes no I knew exactly what was being said it's like a bad bunny thing you don't need to understand Spanish to like be rocking with bad bunny all the time he's wonderful to look at but first of all he's just a cultural phenomenon yeah right like he's one of those artists like you say that transcends everything that transcends color race it doesn't matter it doesn't matter it doesn't matter if you like good music then you like bad money you will enjoy the super bowl yeah yes I mean to be honest photos is one of the great albums of amazing yeah the last like decade I would say yeah I love I love that album okay I have something more general this will bring it down no no no no this there's different there's different ways to do it okay I'm gonna I'm gonna do a different way okay do it in different ways this is not pop culture this is just life this is boeing okay this is life this is life this is based on life like much this is boeing young sound thanks oh honey his time starts now I don't think so honey the humiliating task of making sure shampoo and conditioner bottles finished at the same time that you keep them evenly full because you got me acting like Dexter's laboratory in the steam girl acting like a damn mad scientist trying to make sure these two things finish at the same time what is this sexual intercourse I gotta make sure they finish at the same time so what you're not gonna have me do is buy some two for one parabens sludge I don't want no but this is the thing why haven't we figured out as a society put the conditioner in smaller bottles or to sell two sizes of one or the other depending on what you go through faster finishing them at the same time is impossible meanwhile body wash is sitting over there mining its own business staying iconic I keep my side of the street clean it says but shampoo and conditioner this is a toxic relationship I will never ever ever be able to chance and being in the shower is hell every day for some people because guess what I feel like I'm failing at life if I can't keep this at the same time and that's what man you need a three in one you need a three in one body wash shampoo conditioner I've never understood the problem with three in one people are like no it's it compromises on so much it's it's it's it's it's it's it's conditioners a totally different thing you got to moisturize it's a totally different thing yeah shampoo is a cleaner conditioners like moisturizes like yeah it's different you know this is the sound of a hairdresser yeah some of the lot of hairdresser and I don't even know this stuff right now talk about volume there you go hey and I'm adrift over here no well thank you for your service I feel like we're not talking about this enough as a culture clearly and also the word paraben being mentioned the fact that words like paraben just paraben slides which is what it is the fact that words like that exist up here come on that's my bestie that's my bestie are you guys besties yes are you besties you didn't just get thrown together no we know each other since college we didn't win a casting call yeah yeah we've known each other since like 18 19 yeah did you ever date no no just I know everyone's thanks to us just asking just trying to get all the we never really get like directly asked the question but no I did I just asked you you're allowed to ask journalist J.Lo now by the way I hate if you ask me don't ask me we're not out well we're not gonna ask don't worry but we are gonna ask you to do and I don't think so are you ready I don't know what to do you have something it will come here I want you to do like a legato I don't think so when you just like this keep it in this tone and speed I just want you to like ruminate okay try to fill up as I don't think so your time starts now I don't think so when people come to me knowing what my schedule is and how crazy it can be and not fill me in on all the details they take they they leave out the details they are trying to be helpful they're trying to be respectful they're trying to be you know the favorite person but they're not they're not they really make my life stressful and full of anxiety it's not it's not fun in that way I I really much rather know everything ahead of time be honest with me we need information be honest with me I want you to be honest with me you don't have to lie to me you know how they lie to us don't do that no yeah the truth yeah I can take it yeah I can take it just tell me tell me this is what's gonna happen this is what you need to know have me prepped have me prepared yeah I like rehearsal I want to rehearse I want to be prepared yeah I want to do it I have the discipline you can you can be honest with me just be honest with me I hate when people are not honest and that's when I don't think so yes and we will never lie to you sometimes I do get the sense that when people are get to a certain level yeah yeah yeah they'll kind of like I don't know if they get worried or like they don't want to be the person who delivers the bad news or whatever that's like it's okay or they're holding on to the information and making sure they want they package it right and present it in the right way don't do that don't just tell me are you someone that likes it like I love it like I straight straight I love it straight not like hi no so what do you say spit it out I literally I'm like spit it out spit it out I want you to feel free of this be free of it don't make so many yes yes yes yes on that note on that note I think the reason we love you and people love you is because you were an excellent communicator as we're talking about communication it's it's I think it's that's your through line as well you know how to connect with an audience thank you so much for communicating with us thank you for coming on the show and thank you for the years of joy and entertainment that you have brought because you really are I mean like they throw around the word icon but you are because you you back it up thank you and like just the amount of times I've like left with a big smile on my face after seeing you do what you do is countless I appreciate you guys so much you guys are fantastic this has been this has been the best part of my press tour so my god clip it clip it the clip and send it out to the masses and always rooting for you thank you we end every episode with a 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