Super Bowl Pick & NFL Season Awards, Plus Coaching and QB Futures w/ Albert Breer

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I was going to go with Jacksonville, then the brackets come out. And I've told myself throughout this, even though, I don't know, over a month ago, you're looking at how it's all playing out. And now with Lamar being eliminated, even though, you know, last night's game was just so wild. And I think all of us would agree that there's just parts of Lamar that even with the comeback, even the two big shots against a flowers, he's just not, if he's not healthy, he's just not the same. He hasn't been the same this season. I don't think there's any debate on that. So the whole point of this is like, okay, we'll burrow us out of the field because since today wasn't good, we know my home's gone. Lamar's gone. This is setting up for Allen to get through all of this. And then I was like, don't fall for it. Don't fall. If you're falling for it, I actually, I don't even think I should frame it that way. If you're like, look, I'm looking at the field and I'm just going to trust Allen more than everybody else to get out of the AFC. Go ahead. I just think it's a lot task of that roster for Allen to carry them, even though he's probably on the very short list of guys that could do it. So I was going to pick Jacksonville. So I'm kind of allowing myself to believe in Allen for one game. And when the lines came out last night, Buffalo's favored by point of that Jacksonville. So I thought that was a little alarming. So I'm going to go with Houston, their defense, the run that they've been on. And that's my Super Bowl pick. We'll ask for his as well. On the other side of it with the AFC, the Rams are going to get Carolina in the rematch, the game they lost at their place. Remember, the big turnover, the fourth down conversions. So there was a lot baked into this because basically, I think all of us look at these games and go, okay, well, if it's clean, if it's not my team that I'm picking that's minus two short fields, turnovers, and then there's your extra 10 points, you know, if it's a clean match between teams, like, I don't know, anybody that'd be picking Carolina, certainly with the 10 points that'd be something else. So I think Carolina will win the rematch. They're going to win that game in Carolina. And then I think they'll win the rematch against Seattle, despite Seattle getting the number one overall seed. And I told you, if Carolina got into the playoffs, and we're going to touch on this a little bit more about the talking points about who Carolina is and how they've turned this around, there was even when I watched Carolina's loss against Tampa on Saturday, like all of you did, there was a there was like breakdown of that game. And one analyst actually said, Bryshund, get everything you could ask of him. And I was like, you've got to be kidding me. The way we use the result to analyze the quarterback's performance, it's, it's just we can't help ourselves. They're one eight on third down, I think he could have done a little bit more. So that's where I'm at with that. So the other part of Rams against Seattle, in that matchup, is that that game in Seattle, where they blow it on a Thursday night, or I cannot unsee the Rams offense, putting up 581 yards of total offense against this incredible defense from Seahawks. That's 300 yards more in that game than Seattle allows on average throughout the entire season. So we'll pivot that into the best one of the season, because the best one of the season is actually also the worst loss of the season. And it's Seattle against the Rams. There's some other ones that I would throw in the mix. If you're going the entire season, I've probably left out maybe a couple that you really like. Buffalo's win against Baltimore Week 1 is probably the most fun win of the entire year. That ridiculous comeback. Clearly what we thought of Baltimore at that time. And just Buffalo finding a way in a game where it looked like defensively, they were helpless. Remember Collinsworth was talking about the mesh point stuff with Lamar and Derek Henry. And he was almost to the point of like, I don't know what you're, well, he said it. He's like, I don't know what you're supposed to do. But it was almost like this just defeated premise of like, how are you going to stop this when these two guys are cooking? Like good luck NFL. And then the bills come back and win it. So I think that one was the most fun. Other best win nominees. San Francisco's overtime win against the Rams in week five with all their injuries and just the night game, everyone's hyped up John Lynch's on the sideline with the number of guys that were out for the Niners net game and because of the division and really what it meant throughout the entire year as you were sorting through the NFC North, that win in itself was a huge one. Denver's win at Philadelphia, Super Bowl champs, 18-nothing in the fourth quarter, probably spoke to some of the Eagles issues that all of us have with that team offensively. Week seven, the Rams Jags, because I was tempted to go Rams Jags Super Bowl match up here. That was a 35-7 game in week seven. Houston's comeback win against Jacksonville to close that game, 26-nothing to go from three and five to nine straight wins the rest of the season. But yeah, I think I still think it's Seattle considering Seattle getting the number one overall seed in the NFC, what it meant for the division to be able to come back, all the spots where I'm like, they're down what 30 to 14. Like they get the punt return, okay, does this mean the Rams foot off the gas a little bit? They get the next touchdown, they get the two-point conversion that nobody understood. And then it was all those possessions where I'm like, okay, fine, this is going to be really interesting in a blown comeback where the Rams are going to get the field goal and this thing's going to be over and that's not what happened. Donald continued to have some of those turnover issues and was like, okay, well, this thing actually gets really tight. He's not going to be able to close this thing out. And they did and now they're the number one seed in the NFC and that defense is incredible. And they were just dominant against a Niners game where I mean, look, the magnitude of what that game meant and how dominant they were in it. If a lot of people are picking Seattle today with the home field, I would not blame you. I think the Rams are going to get that one. All right. So that's also the worst loss for everything that I just said. I wanted to throw this one in there. Most misleading wins. I'm going to reference a January 27 to what 2024 NBA game. When the Clippers beat Boston, 1596 in Boston, I was like blown away. How good the Clippers looked. And this was during a 25 and five stretch for the Clippers. They closed the season 17 and 16. The Clippers were so good in that game. I think I did like a full segment on it, full breakout videos, the whole deal. I'm like, this was nasty, like putting the rest of the league on notice. Like this is what this team was supposed to be with these big wings and Kawhi cooking and what they could do defensively. I'm like, they went into Boston and they killed them. And then they got hurt and it didn't matter. And do you remember what happened to the Clippers in 2024? Probably not. So that was a very misleading win. I think it's one of the most misleading regular season wins I've ever seen in the NBA considering what it was, how important it was, who they beat, the eventual champs at their place. I actually think too was one of those deals where it was, you know, whenever you point out to like a team winning in the NBA, it's like, wow, you know, got into three, you know, fourth and fifth to five days, like as if no one's ever won with bad travel scenarios. I think that was a pretty clean off to look it up again. But I think I remember that being like one of those games where you couldn't even argue that. So the NFL had a few of them, Green Bay's week one against Detroit. Yeah, like look at this defense, look at the personnel, Jordan Love, here we go. And then Green Bay lost to Cleveland 13, 10, two weeks later, I'm going to have Detroit in another one, which means Baltimore's in another one week three Detroit Monday night football to come back against Baltimore. That was awesome. I'm like, Detroit is nasty. Look at all of these guys. Instead, they ended up ninth in the NFC. I had said at one point not that long ago that I thought Detroit would win the ASC probably not. I still like that team, but it wasn't a very good year. They're ninth in the conference and that looked like an incredible win. I'm just going to throw this one in there because I enjoyed all the quarterback breakdown and stuff. Remember nine, getting it done in the fourth quarter in Chicago, Minnesota's come back against the Bears. Like, you know, when it matters, there's something about this guy, something about him, JJ McCarthy. Look at him, look at him, look at him at the sidelines. I have no idea if he's going to be any good or not. I think he deserves another chance the next season to be the starter, figure it out. He spent the first round pick on him and he was a little bit better to close the season, right? After some disastrous accuracy issues throughout other games, having injuries, multiple injuries this season, but that was a game where it was like, oh, this guy's going to fire in him. I'll also add in any Kansas City win where it felt like they were riding the ship, week four, Baltimore again, another example here. And he probably speaks to a little bit more of how we were hanging on to who Baltimore was throughout the Detroit win, throughout this Kansas City win. They housed Baltimore at home, 37-20. I'm like, Kansas City is going to be fine. The Chiefs closed the season one and eight and they're out of the playoffs for the first time since 2014. What was your favorite contract incentive that you were rooting for this past weekend? Who fucking cares? The NFL media loved that topic, ramping up. Incentive. Were you sitting around? Do you know anyone that was sitting there keeping track of incentives? Maybe it was because it was a week's slate, other than what you had on Saturday, which were two really important games. You had the Atlanta, New Orleans result yesterday that mattered a little bit. There was some seating stuff. Eagles not playing guys, Rams playing their guys. And then, of course, last night with Pittsburgh finding a way, Luke, my guy, one of my favorite kickers I've ever evaluated, missing the field goal last night for Baltimore. But there just wasn't a lot of meat on the bone for week 18. So I don't know if there was some kind of push to be like, hey, maybe there's some incentive stuff here. At least we had the Miles Garrett Sack record. And it also got me to thinking, did you care? Did you have multiple screens up or did you change your channel? Was there anything about you? Because the stray hand thing, I think all of us care. And I think there's a bigger topic here. But what do you actually care about anymore at the end of the season? Like, do you remember the Garrett Sack? Will you have that off the top of your head the way we always did when we were younger? Did you care that Jonathan Taylor is trying to catch Cook in the rushing title? I think there's local stuff. Like, if I were a Bill's fan, I'd be, you know, especially if I were really young, I'd probably care about some of that stuff. But I don't know that anybody ever talks about it anymore. If anybody can ever care, or maybe it's just like you go from a certain point in life where you're memorizing this stuff, and then you care about mortgage payments and blood test results as you get older, which feels a little bit more important. But like Jamar Chase won the wide receiver triple crown third time since it's happened in what since the mid 90s. Cooper Cup had it not that long ago as well. That's a really cool thing. It was to be something that just as a football fan, I think a lot of us would all be kind of rooting for him. Like, oh, I wonder if this guy's going to get the triple crown. Or maybe we do care in the moment and we just move so fast now that it's just like, oh, I forgot I even cared about it. I forgot that that result even happened. And I think this is pretty normal now. I don't know if anybody cares about the scoring title in the NBA, the way we did when we were younger. And do you know who has the rebounding title? I'll tell you right now, I don't know who's leading the NBA and rebounds. I didn't look it up today. I think Cal having 60 home runs or Seattle should be a big deal. It was probably a huge deal of Mariners fans in the MVP race with Judge. You know, and Judge having 62 a couple of years ago. I mean, 60 home runs has only been done what? Nine times, 10 times in MLB history. Now, baseball's problem with it is we understand like all the numbers became devalued overnight. Although I would tell you, you know, it's weird. We celebrate quarterbacks that can play really late. We celebrate NBA players playing in their 40s. If that were baseball, it'd be congressional hearings. Or maybe there wouldn't be because congressional hearings have other topics now and they wouldn't be talking about baseball. But there's a numbers and there's apathy. There's just not anything to it anymore. In the way, I wouldn't even say it's about being a kid. I would say younger my career, you were like, oh, this guy could have the touchdown lead like this running back to get to and it felt like something you actually cared and could even reference later on. And I don't like I would ask you, do your kids keep track of the stuff the way we did when we were kids? And I'm not even saying it's like necessarily wrong. It's just an observation. You know, maybe we were simpler. Maybe we were stupid. Let's talk about losers. Tennessee has gone 57 games without back to back wins. That is the active leader for a franchise right now in the NFL. The Giants are second at 37 games. So think about that 57 games without back to back wins. The Jets, here's two stats for you. They finished the season without an interception as a team. Zero second lowest is six. San Francisco and Tennessee. Another Jets number that I love. Garrett Wilson's their leading receiver for the season. He held on. He got the belt 395 yards receiving the last time he had to catch October 12th. How about the Giants not tanking the Giants the last two years were sitting at two and 13 with two games to go. They went two and O this year and one and one last year. They cost themselves the number one overall pick last season moving first to third and with this hot finish to the season for the Giants going two and O. They went from the inside track at the number one overall pick to the fifth pick. My final thought, Drake Mays, my MVP. I battled with it. I don't have a vote so don't worry about it. I battled with it because of the schedule. So if you go through a lot of this stuff and you're like, you know what, that Rams defense actually doesn't hold up. There's some nice closing numbers for this Patriots defense. It's also arguably the easiest schedule a team has had in the NFL in a quarter century. The opposing winning percentage is under 400. It's a 390. It's the only team in the NFL that played a collective schedule below 400. The Rams of all the playoffs teams, of all the playoffs teams, depending because there's some strength to schedule stuff that you can look at, they basically have had the toughest schedule of anyone. The numbers favor May, but when I really think about like the core argument of the MVP, what it's supposed to be, and I know this can move a little bit. People get upset that sometimes it's not like people, it just depends on the season and what you're comparing. 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The best way to get into a lot of the off-season stuff and recap some of the stuff that we saw throughout the season, Albert Breer joins us, si.com, the MMQB podcast as well out multiple episodes and you can read his stuff on Si this morning. Good to see you, man. Hey, what's up, Brian? Let's start with this. I wanted to pick Jacksonville to win the AFC and I still, I mean, I'm sure I could change my mind, but I like to come out and announce it on the podcast. So I went Rams over Houston in the Super Bowl, probably just because of the seating and the first way it worked out where I was like, maybe Buffalo gets one. I don't know if they get through the whole thing. Do you already have picks? Because I wanted to go there before we get to the off-season stuff. I don't, but I have to get those in tomorrow, I think. So where are you leaning? Let's do that. I still think the Rams have a gear that no one else has. Like I still think the Rams, when they're really on it and when Stafford's really on it and when they're running the ball the way I think we know they're capable of running the ball with Kyron Williams and Blake Corum and when that defensive front is really going in at full speed, I just, I don't know that there is a team in football that can beat them when they're at their very best. It just hasn't been as consistent this year, which is why they finished third in their division. And I had the bills before the season. I had the bills in mid-season and I am never right about these things. So maybe in the interest of being right, I might stick with Rams' bills just because, I mean, why not at this point? But I'm with you. I think Houston, the AFC is so flat. And so it's just like, would anybody be surprised if three wild cards came out of the first round? If Buffalo, the Chargers and the Texans won in the first round, would anybody be shocked by that? No, I don't, you know, I think it's very even. To your point, I could probably, I wouldn't be like outraged by any pick. Like if somebody said Carolina out of the NSC, I just be like, what are you doing? You know, you're just trying to be different. Even the Bears, like I think the Bears are built on turnovers. I think this is like, might surprise me a little bit. Yeah. I mean, Pittsburgh, well, sure, if we really want to get to it, because I just don't think Pittsburgh was very good this year, even though, I mean, now we're talking about the two divisions, NFC, AFC South, or the NFC, the NFC South, the AFC North. The automatic qualifiers. Because like I was reading your piece this morning, I'll just kind of jump to it. But I already knew this was going to happen. But if I was like, if Carolina gets in and they lose the Tampa, they can't move the ball. We can talk about, you know, the weather and everything, but they can't move the ball all day long. They get the late touchdown and ends up being a two point game. And then they get in because of the Atlanta result against New Orleans. I don't think Carolina should necessarily, maybe Carolina has a better argument to feel better about themselves today than Pittsburgh does. I don't think Pittsburgh should feel good about themselves and where the franchise is. So maybe Rogers for a moment, putting together scoring drives that I didn't expect was going to happen based on how the first half went. So it's almost like me sounding like a dick going, hey, feel worse about yourself, even though you're in the playoffs. But I do think this is where mistakes can be made by a franchise by like going, I know you made the playoffs, but do you actually feel good about where the team is? Because I think Carolina and Pittsburgh both would have massive questions this off season, even if they want to play off game. Yeah, I would agree. I think the Steelers, it's sort of, it just, it's felt all year like it's being held together by duct tape. And, you know, the weird things at the end of the year with, you know, you know, TJ Watts, freak injury and DK Metcalf's incident with the fan. And, you know, you look at like the age of the roster and it's, I mean, the one thing about it is like, you know, the very least everybody's going to operate with a lot of urgency, but there are some old players in the team that they've relied on Ramsey, you know, Hayward, it's just, you look through the roster and it's like, how are they going to string wins together in the playoffs? Now, Rogers made some throws that were off the charts, but I think, you know, you're looking at like a very serious reset coming. And, you know, that's where the question on Tomlin's future comes in. Carolina, I think they had a really nice offseason last year, right? I've, Ted McMillan surprised a lot of people. They surprised people taking a maith overall. He, I think, you know, would be my offensive rookie of the year. I got to look at all that again, but I think he would be my, like he'd be right there at least. And they were so reliant on him in that game, you know, to make big plays for them. And they, they hit on free agents like Rico Dowdle. So can they repeat it? And do they really have a quarterback? Like they've got a decision coming on Bryce Young, whether or not to pick up their fifth year option. They have this big breakthrough year. They may decline that option, you know, like based on what they've seen this year. So like, I don't know that you can look at Carolina the way that like you would look at like a Chicago or a New England or even a Washington, despite the down year, where it's like, yeah, you got your quarterback, you start and have your core, like it looks like you're going to be good for the foreseeable future. Carolina still has worked to do. And I think the guys there would, would tell you that. Okay, let's do the positive of this. How did Jacksonville do this? It's incredible. I would say, you know, like they, they did a really good job of continuing to develop guys who the previous regime left behind, who they inherited. And I think it takes some humility to come into a new place that hasn't won much in Jacksonville and recognize that there is something to work with here. So Travis Attyin has a career year. Trevor Lawrence has pulled his career back up off the mat. Devin Lloyd has a career year. Josh Heinz Allen has been excellent. Trayvon Walker has played well. And so you have all of these guys that were high draft picks there. And then you start to nail some of your free agent signings, right? Like what they were able to do on the offensive line. Yeah, I, I just like look all the way around. And it's just, I think you have to give Tony Bacelli and, and, and James Gladstone and Liam Cohen credit for doing a good job of assessing what was on the roster, who they had to move out, who they had to bring in and continuing to develop the young talent that was already there, which I didn't think there was a ton to work with, to be honest with you, going into going into the hiring cycle last year. Like this felt like a little bit of a rebuild, but you know, they, they've done a really nice job taking the guys that were on hand and they've done it. Like in a division that, that division has been a layup the last couple of years for the Texans to win it. But you know, this year, the Colts were a wagon for the first two thirds of the season. Now, you know, what's happened since was what's happened since. And then the Texans have been incredible since September, you know, like they started all in three there. I believe the, the records 12 and two since. So is that math right? That is that math right? Yeah. They closed at nine straight wins. There were three and five. So, so my math is all off this. I mean, I was just making sure it added up to 17 games, Ryan. You know, but I think you got to give the Jags a lot of credit for, you know, assessing what they had on hand and then just, you know, getting the most out of the guy, those guys. And I just, I think it's a huge credit to them. The amount of guys that have had career years there. It's really incredible. Denver, they take the dead cap hit of Russell Wilson, 85 million of dead cap money. So 53 million last year, 32 million last this year. So 53 and then 32. I think this is one, it's okay. You get the free quarterback and bow nicks, right? It's also worth bringing this up, which I think needs to be brought up all the time. I mean, the salary cap in the NFL was 182 and a half million dollars in 2021. In 2026 is going to be 304 million. It's gone up 25, 23, 25, 30, 16 million. I mean, the cap just goes up by such a huge spike. Should we all stop caring about dead cap money hits? There's a lot more flexibility to work through that than there used to be. And, you know, it's definitely going to affect some quarterback decision making this offseason with guys like Tua and Miami and Kyler in Arizona. But I do think it's still narrow as the path. I think, you know, the Broncos had to get a lot more right. And their margin for error was cut way down, working around what they were working around. And it's not just the money. It's also the fact that you didn't have first round picks for two years. And so to come out of those drafts, I'm looking at it now. You know, to have a Nick Bonito in 22 when you didn't have a first round pick, to have a Riley Moss in 2023 when you didn't have a first round pick. You know, they've just done a, they've just hit on a lot of picks outside of the first round and turned those guys into really serviceable players for them. And then they've gotten free agents right too. You know, like guys like Mike McGlinchey and Ben Powers, like they've taken like an offensive line that was a weakness, turned it into a strength. They've, you know, built what I think is probably the best evens of football outside of Houston. It's just like you didn't have the wherewithal to go and do things like get boned X, like a real number one receiver, right? Like, so you had to make it work with Cortland Sutton and you had to draft Marvin Mims and you had to make those things work. I think it's really impressive from that standpoint that, you know, all of the capital that you had, you essentially, you essentially take the capital that you have to get cheap talent in your roster by eliminating first round picks the first few years. You take that out of the equation and then some of the, you know, money that you would have to make up for that is gone because of the dead money on Wilson's contract, you know. So you've kind of had to bite the bullet both ways and they've certainly made it work. It's not just one of the most well coached teams in football. It's one of the best rosters in football too. You had a note in your piece this morning. They had Nix with the second best quarterback grade in that class. So he's the sixth of the six guys taken through the 12 picks. I had wondered if Peyton's like, look, I can make it work with anybody and it's a need thing, which is always a scary proposition when you're drafting a quarterback based on need and there's a bunch of them going in front of you, but they had Nix at the number two guy in that class, huh? Behind Jayden Daniels. Yeah. So it's Jayden Daniels number one, bonus number two. And, you know, I think a lot of it was, so they loved his experience. They loved his like mindset and his makeup. Like they, you know, there's this story that I told, I got ripped for it, but I told this story about how, you know, Sean Peyton went there and Eugene went to Eugene and Nix walked in with a backpack and he like Peyton asked him to dump out his backpack. And like it was like a roll of tape, like a little cross ball to like roll out his back. It was like everything that you would need to, you know, it's playbook. It's like everything you would need or the iPad, everything you would, everything is like football related in his bag. You know what I mean? Like he's a true Jim rat. The other thing that I thought was interesting, and I, you know, like Sean was really big on this with me when I, when I've talked to him in the last couple of off seasons is like he brought up sacks and he said, this guy does not get sacked. And it didn't matter how bad a situation was. This guy doesn't get picked off a lot. Like this guy avoids negative plays. He plays quarterback and Sean launched into this whole thing about sacks or a quarterback stat because they involve so many different things, right? So it's not just your movement in the pocket, your athleticism. It's also how quick you process, how quick you get rid of the ball, how, how you feel the rush, your instincts for that. It incorporates so many different pieces of playing quarterback. Like Sean really believes that that, that stat is one that carries over into the pros. And it is going to tell you a lot about a guy's ability to operate a pro offense. And so, you know, between the starts, between that, that feel for the game he had between his work ethic and his fit for the offense. They really loved him. And I think, you know, Sean would tell you now, like it was with the acknowledgement that this guy isn't going to be a fit for everybody, but he is, he is one for us. So praise for Denver, praise for Jacksonville. We have to, at least if we're doing this, get Seattle into the conversation because they have between Eamon Worry and Witherspoon, two of my favorite draft picks of the last few years. And it shows up on that defense. And, you know, look, if you were putting together, like who said the best two year run, you know, who, who you can do three year run, maybe I wouldn't know three years well off the top of my head, but the best two year run to move off a Gino, to bring in McDonald, to bring in Darnold, to keep hitting on these picks, where there's an identity, it seems like what I loved about those two picks in particular, and there's plenty of guys in the front too that we like, you know, bringing in some of the vets that like Leonard Williams looks like the best he's ever looked, to be honest with you. And he was just such a freak coming out of college that it was like, how come this guy's not just an absolute game wrecker? And now I think, you know, the reason when he was coming out of SC, it's like, okay, well, it took a little bit longer with him, but like there's a nastiness to the Seattle team, which is exactly what you saw with Witherspoon in Illinois, exactly what you saw, Nick in South Carolina. I don't know if they were like, hey, we want the mean guys, but it shows up when you watch them play. Yeah. And I think in that way, like, I think they're sort of where they were 15 years ago when Pete had the young team there. And there were so many guys that were coming up and getting better over the course of time. And I, you know, you give John Schneider their GM a ton of credit for capitalizing on all of the capital that he got in the Russell Wilson trade. And like, you just like look at their draft classes, right? Like, and it's, you know, in 22, they get their two tackles, Cross and Lucas, they get Kenneth Walker in that class, they get Boy in Maffay in 23, Witherspoon and JSN are their first two picks. Like those are two home runs, like two potential first team all pros. Second round, they get Derek Hall and Zach Charbonnet. Last year, they get Byron Murphy, who's a stud. Their first two picks this year are home runs. Zabel, who's been one of the best guards in all football, right out of the box. And then Nicky Minwari, who's playing the Kyle Hamilton role for Mike McDonald, you know? It's like, I mean, it's just they, it's been hit after hit after hit. And then you look at the veteran market, right? Like who they brought into the veteran market is Leonard Williams, who, you know, again, has played it at an all pro level. It's Cooper cup. You know, you just look at like move after move after move and the way they all fit together. And then Sam Darnall coming in and replacing Gino Smith. You know, it's- And one of the rare kind of like discounted starter like deals like Darnall, we were all speculating like, what's that deal look like? And then when it comes through, it's like, Whoa, was this an actual like realistic like, Hey, you're guys good, but not so good that, you know, Minnesota is moving on from him. So like, what's the pricing for that? And you could see other quarterbacks of the same set of like, Okay, cool. Here's my 55 million a year average annual salary. Here's 150 million in Garrett. Like his guaranteed money, was it actually the same as Kirk Cousins? Was it a little bit? I think it's in the ballpark of the same. They can get out after a year with Sam. Yeah, that's structure of it. But they could get out after a year. And I, and that, that to me, like, see, that's an interesting nuance that you bring up to, because it's like the Baker Mayfield conundrum, right? Like where the Browns, if they, if it's your own homegrown guy, you almost have to pay top of the market. Like you see it with Tula, you see it with Kyler. And that was like where the Browns were with Baker, right? So the big Browns were sitting there with Baker. And so are we going to have to pay him? I don't know what the number was at the time 45 million, right? Or would we rather pay to Sean Watts and that who maybe gives us a better chance to have a top five quarterback, obviously blow up in their face. But that was their logic. It's like, do you want a quarterback who maybe the 10th best quarterback at, you know, a number one or number two quarterback, right? And so, I mean, you're right. Like you look at the reclamation projects, they're coming in significantly lower. Like Gino for the years, he gave Seattle good years, came in way under, you know, the top of the market, Sam Darnold, again, like he's there in the 30s when the top guys are in the 50s, you know, Baker's another one when he resigns in Tampa. He's, you know, he's in the 30s. He's not in the 50s. And Daniel Jones, like now you would think maybe that's what winds up happening with him too, you know? So it's a weird thing that like if it's your own homegrown guy, you got to pay him like 55. But, you know, if you're going and picking somebody up off the scrap heap, you know, then you're going to wind up getting this pretty massive discount. And so that really has worked out for Seattle as well, you know, in swapping out essentially Gino for DK Metcalf, right? Like in getting, you know, like the, you know, getting that much younger at quarterback, they've sort of reset their clock there. And look, like, you know, it's a little bit to me, like it's like Alex Smith in Kansas City, right? Where Alex Smith gave Kansas City a high level of play, maybe not elite play, but a high level of play at the position for five years, stabilize them, they could win with them. And then they just picked their spot on when they saw the right opportunity to go get a young one. It's a, it's a pretty good position to be in if you're not going to be at the very bottom of the league. Let's talk about some of the offseason stuff because the moves have already happened. Atlanta's staff out, Matt Ryan coming in, Cleveland moves on from Stefansky, you know, let's just start with Atlanta because then Pete Carroll's out as well now in Vegas. This happened just as we were taping. So the cousin's decision, you know, they had to get it right. Like I was reading your piece with like Arthur Smith is there and it's like, Hey, you have plenty of time, plenty of time. And then it's like, no, you don't. And like Ritter was, was not like that was one of the guys who would play. And you're just like, man, I don't, I don't know if this is ever going to work. Right. So then Smith's out. And it's like, I thought I thought we were going to be patient here. So it's pretty clear this regime comes in being like, we have to address the quarterback part of it. They give four years, four years, 180 to cousins, they can get out of this year, but it's going to cost them basically, they're going to be 100, they're going to cost him $100 million. That's going to be $100 million for cousins. And then you take Penex, which again, I'll just admit as a, not the biggest cousin's fan, I just enjoyed it because I thought it was hilarious. And I liked the idea of Penex, even if I think there's some limitations. And now he's hurt again, and the guy who's been hurt, basically his entire career, going back to college, obviously, with all that kind of stuff. What is the Atlanta job right now? So, you know, I'd expect Matt Ryan's going to be there in some capacity, probably in the president of football operations role. Now, they still have to go through the Rooney rule and everything else over the course of the next week. But, you know, I think they don't have a, they don't have a first round pick. I think the attractiveness of that job really rides on what you think of Michael Penex and whether or not you think Michael Penex is salvageable as a viable NFL starting quarterback. And he was disappointing this year. They had high hopes for him. And it's not like that roster has devoid of talent. Like they've got a veteran offensive line. Kyle Pitts came on this year. Drake London is probably not a true number one, but he's a good receiver. And they have one of the best offensive weapons in the league and Bijan Robinson, right? So, it's like, I think how, like how you look at that job, if you're a coach is, you know, what do I think of Michael Penex? And do I think that Michael Penex can be Matthew Stafford, like, you know, Raheem Morris and Zach Robinson and the old staff did. My sense is Matt Ryan is going to be in a role. It's a little bit like Tony Bissell in Jacksonville. That's a little bit like Chris Spielman in Detroit, where his job is going to be to align everything. And his job is going to be to make sure that there's an overall overarching organizational philosophy. The general manager, I would think might come from somewhere in Matt Ryan's background. Now there's a guy in Chicago, Ian Cunningham, who's the assistant GM who worked under Howie and Philly and came up under Ozzie and Baltimore, who's working for Ryan Poles. Ryan Poles, I'm sure, I think you probably know this Ryan, but he was one of Matt Ryan's offensive linemen at Boston College. And they were in each other's weddings and all of that. And so, it wouldn't surprise me if you see a guy like Ian Cunningham come in as the general manager. And Ian Cunningham is with Ben Johnson in Chicago. So, could Mark the what they're looking for in a head coach. I also think Matt Ryan is going to be marked by his experience playing for Kyle Shanahan and kind of what that did for his career. I mean, I think you can look at like the amount of guys that were in the building at that time from Kyle to Matt LaFleur to Mike McDaniel on the offensive side of the ball. And then what happened there after those guys left? I certainly think that could affect where they go going forward. So, it's going to be a little bit more of like an NBA setup, I think, you know, you know, with Matt being the president of football ops, that's sort of what when they bring the consultants in, you know, that the what they landed on. But I I I I know the way I see it is Matt Ryan's job now is to make sure everything's aligned the right way. And then, you know, how effective those jobs how attractive those jobs are to sort of depends I think on what you think of panics. If Stefansky is now the hot commodity because he's available, then what was the disconnect in Cleveland? It's just water under the bridge. That was I think what gave them some pause over the last two or three weeks where it just sort of felt I think to people there like it had run its course. You go through the Dishon Watson thing together. The whole thing's been taking on water the last couple of years. Now you've got like this rookie class that you feel like you can build around with Carson Swessinger and Mason Graham and and and Harold Fannin and Quinn Sean Judkins, right? Like, so you feel like you've got something going forward. Got some decisions coming a quarterback and this sort of becomes the natural decision point. And you know, I I think Jimmy Haslam still really likes Kevin Stefansky. I think if you asked him, he would tell you that Kevin's going to have success somewhere else, you know, but in Cleveland, it just got to the point where it's right where where where it ran its course. And what's interesting now is for the teams that are out there looking, Ryan, it's going to be hard to find somebody who's as good as Kevin. The market's thin and it's going to take some real skill this year to find the right head coach. Like last year, I would have been able to tell you on this date, Ben Johnson and Mike Rabel are getting jobs. No question about it. 100% they're getting jobs. Who is that guy this year? Well, I mean, look, it feels like it's Stefansky, whether it's he right? Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, the variable discussion, this was always kind of my John Harbaugh thing is that, you know, like some of the down years for Baltimore, it was like, Hey, is it time to make a change? And shoddy, the owner there is probably as patient as any owner in professional sports. And I think his approach to everything is like, okay, that's kind of the way I'd want an owner to be. Now it's, it's kind of this chicken or the egg thing. It's like, yeah, we got to be patient because we had success right away. So that's why we were patient where everybody else feels like, but there seems to be some dismissal of just a fundamental understanding like, Hey, do you like the guy? Do you like the guy? And do you think he's a good coach? You do? Well, guess what? I mean, just because you guys had a couple disappointing seasons, you don't have to fire him, you know, you don't have to. And that's like kind of the Harbaugh part of it where I know, you know, the playoffs haven't worked out. But clearly he's very good. He's a good coach. And unless it's somebody who's around the building all the time, we're like, you'll just hear stories like, Hey, this was done. Like there's a few times I've heard about stuff with a coach where the people that hired the coach, right, we completely screwed up. First time head coach, he has no business being a head coach. And now it's about us understanding like, can we pull the plug after a year? Do we give him a second year? But we almost already know next year is a lost cause. Which is why I think you're starting to see ownership go like, Hey, if it's bad, what must be done eventually must be done immediately type of thing. So you're right. Like Vrable was one where I'm thinking, like I know there was a power dynamic and all that kind of stuff. It's like, as soon as you get rid of him, everybody else is going to want him. And then you're going to wonder like in a couple years, did we, and I don't know if Tennessee's any good or not, you know, moving forward, granted, they were a terrible team this year. But the, the cycle of it kind of drives me crazy. Cause I'm like, how many owners are getting rid of coaches they actually think are good, but they just feel like they have to do it. It's funny you say that cause like I, so I had a conversation with one of the Jets guys, they interviewed Vrable last year and I don't know if I can swear here, but he said, he said like their first reaction walking out the door after Vrable left, left after his interview was why the fuck did, why the fuck did they fire this guy? I couldn't believe it. You know what I mean? So it's like that part of it is like, you know, and I do think that there's that element of it is like, is your organization strong enough to fix it on the fly? You know, like if it is broken, and I think to some degree in Tennessee that was broken, right? Like it just, for a few different reasons, things were kind of off the rails. I think Mike would admit this now, like the, there was, there was a divide in that building, but the owners job to fix that, you know, like, you know what you have, like there was a point, I was watching the LA documentary and you almost forget about this, but there was a point where it was broken with LA and Denver. What'd they do? Did they get rid of John LA? No, they went and fixed it. You know what I mean? Like so I'm with you on that. I do think too often it does happen where you have, you know, you have these situations where you have these, you have these situations where there's a really good head coach in the building and, you know, people wave the white flag and say, well, it's just not going to work here. Well, are you sure? Or is there something you can do to fix it and dig it out? Yeah, because you're not sure about the next thing. By the way, the Browns thing real quick, will the coaches interviewing for that? Will they have to go in saying we can make something out of Chidore? How much does Chidore factor in the preference for who they're hiring? He's a massive part of it, to be honest with you. I think it's more, I think you're gonna have to have a plan, a quarterback for sure, right? Like so, you know, I'd say they view having Chidore on a rookie contract as a plus. You know, there's the DeSean Watson thing too. You have to have a plan for that. They, you know, they still own $46 million and guaranteed money for this year. So, I think 100%, you have to be, you have to be, you know, have to have a plan for what you want to do at quarterback going forward. But I don't think Chidore has done enough to make anybody say yes. Like he has to be part of the equation going forward. He has to be in the mix to start or anything like that. I think maybe it's a plus if you feel like there's something there and you're gonna work with them. But I don't think anybody's under the illusion that like right now, they're working with like, you know, the next coming of Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen. So, the other note that you had was like a Stike and, you know, Stike and Ballard are gonna be back with the Colts. That Stike kind of falls in that stifancy category that because of this market feeling like it's thin right now and who knows how history is gonna look at this offseason. And musical chairs and coaches, but that Stike would have had a job. So, considering the Jones injury and you can probably get into the sauce trade now and being like, hey, that kind of stings a little bit. But look, they ended up losing the starting quarterback. Things were, things were, felt like there was a bit of a correction on Daniel Jones coming there before the Achilles injury as well. So, we'll see what happens market-wise there. But no surprise whatsoever, the Colts are just going to be patient and kind of playing into some of the stuff that we're talking about here. If they like the guy and there was real reasons and everybody's fine, let's just see what happens in 26. Yeah, I think, you know, like the Colts were one that came up maybe two, three weeks ago for the first time is like, hey, something could happen here. And, you know, I think a lot of that was, it's a little bit like Seattle a few years ago when Paul Allen died. And like, you know, Jody Allen, his sister took over and there was just this unease there about like, we don't really know what she's going to do. And there's no track record here. And so, we'll see sort of like that with Carly Ursay Gordon, who's now the controlling owner. He's one of one of Jim Ursay's three daughters. You know, there's just that sort of like, okay, like, let's see what she's going to do. Now, I would say this, like, in a, in a market where, you know, like there is not a ton of great rising young offensive minds, I think Shane Steichen, despite not making the playoffs his first three years there, would have had a shot to get another, another job right away. Like, wouldn't he even, may not have even had to wait a year or two, you know, he's that well thought of across the league. And so, you know, I think the, the, the people in house there knew that. And then the question becomes, okay, like, so then do you fire your general manager and Chris Ballard has been there for nine years? And I think he knows the score. He's only been to the playoffs twice. He's only won one playoff game since he got there. So that whole, that, that, that, that whole dynamic, it's like, do you have, do you, do you hold onto your coach and then have a GM and arrange marriage with him? And then as the coach on, on notice, or do you just go forward for the next year with a group that you felt really good about through 10 games, and who then had to deal with all the injuries, see where it, where it goes in 2026 with it very, very clear that everybody else, everybody is under evaluation. This is just, I think a cleaner way to do it than, you know, get rid of half of that equation and try to arrange a marriage that, that, that maybe you would be doing to fail. The P. Carol thing didn't work in Vegas. Geno didn't work there. They brought in Chip Kelly. They paid him a ton of money to be the OC. I would say of all the stuff, there is no way, there is no way that I believe the story that Chip didn't know the place that he was calling. Like that, that seemed like when I saw that, I'm like, ooh, this is kind of like nasty work. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I know Chip. I know, I, yeah, I, there's just no way, there's, as soon as I was there's no way that like, that there may have been like a miscommunication on a play and then the game of telephone, it ends up to like, oh, he was, he was, you know, dialing in plays that we didn't even have in the playbook and he didn't know any of those things. It's like, look, it kind of not, you know, it didn't work. There's no way that that's actually what happened consistently. I don't, I just refuse to believe that. It seemed like Carol was frustrated, you know, with Chip, because it was, there was a couple of moments. I was like, wow, you know, like maybe it's getting a little bit older where you go. Now, you know, our balance, you know, and it's like, okay, so he's, he's kind of calling out the play calling here a little bit. Here's the bigger thing though. So the clean house, it was almost like a babysitter deal here, like Pete, bring the fire. He's the youngest old guy ever. But is this job, you've got to pick whatever you think of this quarterback class, but I guess it's like the Brady part of it, because it feels like Brady is both owner and president and all these things. Even if like, I remember Racini coming on with this months and months ago, maybe not even been last year. She's like, this is his team. Like he's calling all of the shots. So how does that dynamic play into what kind of job this is? I mean, I think most of people who work there, view Brady as their boss, you know, just what it is. And I think, you know, coming out of this, you would hope that like the evaluation of everything that went on there reveals how much needs to be cleaned up, you know, and how many different areas of the operation need to be streamlined and aligned. And I use that term with Matt Ryan and the Falcons, like, you know, I think what they tried to do was like, like, like push these puzzle pieces together, you know. And so you bring in Pete Carroll as sort of the program leader, and then you really like Pat Graham. So you bring him back, even though he's from a completely different defensive background than Carroll is, and you bring Chip in and Chip's, you know, offensive background is way different than what Pete's worked with in the past. And you just think Pete's going to accept what those two coordinators want to do and not try to, you know, give, you know, have, have, have, have, have heavy input on what they're doing. And it just didn't work. And I think you're seeing that in different areas of the operation now too. You know, Alex Guerrero is in an elevated goal there, and he's got a lot of people reporting to him. You know, you know, obviously, John Spitek, I think is an accomplished evaluator, you know, like he is somebody now you're going to have to align the head coach with him. And so there's just so much there to clean up. And I still think Brady has a lot to learn, you know, as, as far as, you know, what it takes to be a great football executive. And I'll go back to Elway again. Like I, I remember, you know, hearing how much John Elway was doing early in his time in Denver to try to catch up on that part of it and, and how, you know, he came in really like, I don't really know what I'm doing. I may have been a great quarterback. I ran an arena league team. So I have some experience, but I have a long ways to go to become, you know, great football executive. And I think, you know, Brady's kind of hit some bumps when it comes to, to that piece of it. So I think so much of this is going to be about creating a vision for the franchise and then having people there who fit into that vision and Brady learning the job, you know, and so he's going to be a major part of it going forward. Spitek's going to be a major part of it going forward. And they got to find a coach that's going to fit the vision that they're creating. I think that's job number one for them, because very clearly last year, you know, it's funny because, you know, in New England, Scott Peole had that thing like, we're not collecting talent, we're building a team. I think that's sort of, that was sort of the problem last year with the guy that Peole drafted Brady, right? Like, is that it just feels like a lot of ways they were just collecting talent. It's like, no, you're actually building a team here. And job number one is going to be finding a way to do that now. Anything on Miami? Yeah. So like Miami's got like a, you know, they're going to restructure things a bit there. It's going to look like Detroit looks going to look like LA looks where you have sort of like the cap analytics operations guys, a guy named Brandon Shore, who's been there cap guy forever, is now going to be elevated and report directly to ownership. So Brandon Shore is going to be involved in the GM search. The GM, as a result, is going to be more of a peer scouting guy. I think their idea is to have all three of those guys reporting up to ownership, the new GM, the coach, and, and, and Brandon Shore. You know, Steve Ross, obviously going to be involved, the team president, Tom Garfinkel, Ross's son-in-law, Danny Silman is going to be involved. And so you've got those guys involved. And I think the intention right now is to bring back Mike McDaniel as coach. They're doing their season review now. I don't think anything will happen today. And I don't think anything's final, but I think the idea is to go forward with Mike. The one caveat there would be if someone becomes available, they suddenly feel like we need to go get this guy to be our coach. Maybe that could affect things with McDaniel. But, you know, I, I know this, like, you know, the, the, the barometer for, for McDaniel for the rest of the year after Chris Greer was fired on Halloween was, we can't have them lose the team. And, you know, clearly it looked, there were all kinds of rumblings that he had lost the locker room before that. They went five and two in their next seven games after that. So they did really well, right? They were, they were like the sneakiest, like decent team down the stretch. Yeah. You know, so I'm with you. I was, and here's the second one. Yeah, I thought I was going to be just, okay, this is going to be disastrous. They're going to clean house. You're going to bring all these different guys in. And then it was like, Hey, Miami won again. And here's the second piece of the second piece of this is Steve Ross has heard a lot of people say, this guy's going to be great the second time around. And it's like what you were just talking about. You know what I mean? Like where like, it's like, well, wait a minute, if he's going to be great the second time around, why am I firing him? How about we just fix it and create like a second chance for him here? You know, so I think their intention right now is to go forward with Mike McDaniel, which, you know, could create some opportunity for some of the San Francisco guys. There's a guy named Josh Williams out there to maybe become the next general manager in Miami. Okay. That pivots really well into this because I put together my quarterback replacement list. I do it every year. Probably do it before the season starts. I do it at the end. You know, there's locks and then there's, there's gray areas and it doesn't mean that all eight of these teams, even if it could seem like, oh, it feels like eight teams, nine teams are going to change quarterback. It's like, you probably do that if you're being a little loose of it. I think the crazy part of it is that most of the teams are in the AFC. So let's go through it. You know, if you have, obviously you're going to have better intel than I would. But if you're like, no, I, you know, look, I think they're going to keep him. What do you think happens with Tua? I think Tua is probably gone. I think that's like a water under the bridge situation. I just think they've gone through too much. We've seen how Tua has handled these sorts of things in the past, which informs you too. Like remember that Grudgy held, you know, at Brian Flores over the way he was treated there. He's been a little sensitive with these things in the past. So I don't know why you would expect that it would be different after what he went through this year. So my guess is maybe he's somebody's reclamation project next year. I don't even know where to start with the jets, but clearly that quarterback is not on the roster, whoever it is. I think that's a fair assumption that the jets quarterback for 2026 is not on the 2025 roster. You know, I think they'll, they'll, they have the second pick. So obviously some of this is going to come down to who declares is Dante Moore in the class. We'll see. If there's two quarter, if Dante Moore declares that's who the starting week one for the jets. We could just write that in pen right now. Yeah, it feels that way to me. Are you sure that Moore goes behind Mendoza? I'm not totally sure of that. Moore's pretty good. No, I like Moore. I mean, I know there's been a couple of games here where I think the guy's just so calm, but I think Mendoza's approach from the pocket on top of the toughness and everything that goes with that, you know, like I had, I was playing hoops the other day, shout out to the Hoosiers. There's a bunch of Indiana guys running around trying to take over Manhattan Beach. So I was playing pick up hoops for the first time. And they gave me that chant that I had to hear at the Big Ten Championship game over and over and over again. They didn't do that chant to me, but they were, the guy was like, what do you think about Jackson Dardum and Mendoza? And I was, that's this. So I was kind of like, you know, I gotta be honest with you. I, I probably like any quarterback that I feel better about from the pocket first, like all the other stuff is extra, like the dark toughness and the running. And it's like, okay, all that shit's cool, but this is, he's been reckless since he was in high school with these runs. You know, Mendoza from the pocket is, I think, but now the Jans don't have to worry about any of that stuff. I agree. Like I think, you know, the personality part of it's great too, because I know we're going to be talking about that for the next four months. I would say this about that part of it. As long as you're yourself, I think you'll be fine. You know, like Andrew Luck was, I love Andrew. Andrew was, Andrew's dorky, you know what I mean? But Andrew owned it and Andrew was himself and he's fine. So I think Mendoza, like when I watch Mendoza, I see like Jared Goff, I'm not an evaluator, I see Jared Goff kind of that type of quarterback. And you know, that's pretty good. It's a guy who's gotten two different franchises that were really bad before he got there to conference championship games. More, I've just, I haven't done enough on him, but I just look at Dante more as somebody who, it just feels like when you watch him play, he's got a really high ceiling. It feels like he's just scratching the surface of what he can become. A little more juice to him through your sandbrier. Yeah. Yeah, I think so. I think that'd be it. Just as an aside, how are you doing as an Ohio State fan? Are you okay? I'm fine. I think I've come to grips with we just weren't that good. I don't know. Like I, maybe that's, maybe that's coping. You know what I mean? But the offensive line issue, like, like, what defensive fronts did we play after Texas that were really capable of challenging us? And so Indiana beat us that way. Miami beat us that way. Really Miami beat us on both lines of scrimmage. So even if we get through that one, and we almost did, right? Like if get the ball back there, I think saying might drive him down the field when the game, I like, is that going to hold up the next week against Indiana or, or, or again, you know, I don't know. So maybe I'm coping, but I, I think like that offensive line issue, which I'd say there are years of recruiting where that area we missed on some guys. I think a lot of that came home to Roos. So I'm doing okay. Although, man, man, like that night did suck because, because you don't know how much more of Jeremiah Smith, you do look at the, some of the talent on the roster and it's like, man, a lot of these guys are going to be in the NFL. And that's the thing that sucks about rooting for a college team, right? Is like, there's a finite amount of time that you have with each team. And there's unknown after, after that. Hey, at least it's Ohio State. And you know, if he's really good, he's probably staying in Columbus, because just imagine being a college football fan anywhere else. Oh, I know. I mean, right. I saw that. I saw like watching the portal stuff over the last couple days. Did Oregon, Oregon like lost a guy or two is actually playing? Is that right? Like, there's one corner that was announced that he wasn't even playing. So there, there, there may be somebody said to me like, this guy's actually, because most of our backups, you know, so I understand that, but somebody said like, I like, somebody said to me like, this one corner is actually playing, but I guess he's not. I get it. I'll double check it right now. Cause I mean, it could have happened if it happened over the weekend. I think the first outrageous one was that the graphic starts going around and you're like, wait a minute, what's going on? Like, they just advanced. And then everybody that knew was like, this guy's not even, this guy's not even playing that. So, um, let's see. I will say I like landing solution to all this, which is to play the championship on New Year's Day, but. Yeah, I'd be fine with that. Um, you know what? I'm just, I can't handle any more proposals. 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So I don't, I think from what I had read, it was Dalen Austin, that was the one that everybody was getting worked up about that I was like, I don't think he was actually really playing. Okay, we got more breaking news. Arizona Cardinals have fired. Yep. Canon. Yep. So now this does not, this would actually lead into like the quarterback replacement list is that, look, the Chudor question I just asked, I already knew the answer to that one. I don't think somebody's going to win the pitch by being like, I think we got something really special here. I know Chudor was a rookie. I thought he was terrible. And we'll see. He had, he had a third downplay yesterday. That was so bad on third. He thought against zone defense that he was going to run from like the 12 yard line into the end zone and he didn't make it a yard. Whatever, maybe he'll be good. Maybe he'll be good with more reps or whatever. But the Kyler decision, it feels like he's gone and that whoever's ever coming in doesn't have to come in selling the way Kingsbury, you know, Kingsbury was there to develop a quarterback. Right. Canon was brought in to get Kyler to the next level. It feels like whoever has this job will have a clean slate at the position as well. Yeah, I think so. And they, they've actually got like a decent young core of players, you know, they've got from whatever you think of Marvin Harrison, but they've got a left tackle at a pair in Paris, Johnson, they've got a young tight end and Trey McBride, who's probably the best in football. They got a bunch of young pieces on defense. Like this is an interesting one cause it's like, okay, what's your plan for quarterback? Because we think that if we can get the quarterback right and you even saw it with the way Jacoby played like there were points where they look pretty competent with Jacoby in there. And Jacoby is like a, you know, I'd say like an average run of the mill, like, you know, play quarterback from the pocket guy. Like if you can just get to the point where you have like a top 10 or 12 quarterback in there, you know, you might be able to compete pretty quickly because of the young talent on that roster. So that one, I would say is again, like, I look like the Kyler in two situations is like, how much of the contract are they going to have to eat to trade them? Is that even possible? Do they have to cut them just like Denver did with Russell and just eat the money? But I think one way or the other, you know, Kyler's almost certainly not there in 2026. So if we go, okay, Tua, move on, Jets don't know who it is, Pittsburgh, I don't know if last night's result matters. I mean, it's, it's easy to play it that way. I mean, there was part of me with Collinsworth and I think to regroup Collinsworth are awesome. But like his law, he gets so excited about football and he's like, he's got the guys over here watching film, he's got the hand signals, he's really put in the time and all this stuff and Calvin Austin has a route where it looked like he broke out a bit late and then Rogers is lighting him up and I'm like, yeah, I don't know, man, you guys got three fucking points, you know, and then look, I was wrong. They come back, they put together the scoring drives, they win, they win the division, they're in the playoffs. But sometimes I wonder if a result that's in the moment, a huge success can end up being the most misleading thing and actually screws you up as an organization. Like I think when you look at this one, really, it's going to be, it's going to have to be a decision that's bigger than just Aaron, right? Like cause, you know, like I said earlier, they've got so much age in key spots in the roster. So what are you doing with Cam Hayward? What are you doing with Jalen Ramsey? You know, what are you doing with TJ Watt? You assume he just signed the contract so he'll be there. Like what does this look like going forward? And if you're going to run it back with the same group and a lot of those guys are going to be back and you're going to spend in 2026 to try to win, then it makes sense to have Aaron around. You know, there's another scenario where, you know, like they get blown out by Houston in the first round of the playoffs. And now all of a sudden it's like, okay, like we're evaluating everything now. And so I think a lot of like their decision making is going to hinge on how they see that group of older players more than just Aaron. And um, do I think Aaron's going to want to play again next year? I think that could even hinge a little bit on what it looks like on Monday night. It's, it's sort of interesting because I do think like Aaron's gotten himself back into a place. I think you saw it after the game too. And you know, I've talked about, talked with him about this. Like I do think he's kind of gotten himself back to a place where he's really enjoying playing football again, whether or not he has another year in him. I'm not sure. All right. Let's run through the rest of these. We already covered Cleveland. Anything to Lamar and Baltimore? I mean, no, for now. You know, I think he will be back as the quarterback next year. However, when Josh Allen got his correction last year, the Ravens went in and talked to Lamar about doing a new contract that obviously didn't work out. He's got two years left on his deal. How much is Lamar going to push for a new deal now? And does that become a problem? And if that's a problem, the Ravens don't even have to shop them. Cause at that point, you know, if there's teams interested in trading for them, they're going to pick up the phone and call whether that's the dolphins, the Raiders, whoever else, like those teams could be motivated to pick up the phone and call. And so, um, I think like if there is going to be a separation here or a divorce, it would be because the contract situation fell apart. And to get there, that would take, you know, Lamar pushing for one and the Ravens not wanting to do one. Do you think the Colchis resigned Daniel Jones? Yeah, I do. I think that they saw enough from, from Daniel. I think that the, the prognosis on the injury, I think is that this is going to be a relatively clean, clean one to come back from. Um, you know, my, my, my, my sense is that, that, that like they wind up doing a deal that makes sense for everybody, so to speak, to bring them back. And they love them there. Like they, they, they felt like they'd really found something, the plan, you know, before you got hurt 100% was to go forward with them. Now the question becomes whether or not you got to franchise them to do that because the franchise tag, I believe this year is going to be, you know, in the mid 40s or maybe close to 50. Um, if you do that, then you're talking about giving them a contract in that, in that range. Are you able to work something out with them before you have to tag them? Do you tag them? If you do tag them, you know, you're sort of in the same position of giants for a couple of years ago with them. Minnesota just run it back with JJ. See what you have, I assume. Um, with competition, I would say with competition competition. Yeah. I think, I think with them, I think with them, they're going to look hard at the idea of a reclamation project. Um, because it worked for them before with Sam, right? Like they were able to get a great year out of Sam. And so, you know, I, I, I think they'll look at the idea of how do we make sure that we're creating some level of certainty for ourselves. Um, here where we know, like we've got some sort of backstop. If JJ doesn't work out, I just think there's too much on the line for them based on where they are from a roster standpoint, Ryan. And, you know, you look at the guys that they have that are in the prime of their careers, you know, Justin Jefferson, you know, Jordan Addison, you know, Aaron Jones is still there. Christian Derisaw, the defensive side of the ball, you know, guys like, like Ben Ginko on Grenard and, and Byron Murphy, who they re-signed. I just, I think that their feeling is they're really close to competing for a championship and they're not going to let the quarterback position undermine that next year. Not to say that JJ's performance would again, but I just say like they, I think they'll be a little bit more apt to protect themselves and create some competition at the position. All right. Final thought here. Um, I know you have an MVP vote, so you can't tell us. Yep. How do I ask you this? You want to make the case for both? I would say, well, what do you think will be ultimately like the deciding factor for voters? Um, you know, I think it's like going to kind of like, it's going to be about how you view the award. You know what I mean? Like, I think, you know, Drake's got the more with less case. Like, that was a 4-1 team a year ago. I don't think anybody in their right mind thought that was a very good roster going into the season, you know, and like with, you know, Stefan Diggs in his 30s with Mack Hollins, with, um, you know, Pop Douglas and, you know, and Hunter Henry and Austin Hooper, like he's been able to get the team to 14 wins, you know, and Vrables, a huge, huge, huge part of that, but there's that more with less argument. And then you've got the argument, well, this guy, Matthew Stafford is playing the game at a, playing the position at a higher level than anyone else in football, which I think is the case, you know, and Stafford, like some of the things he does, if you talk to Rams people, it's just off the charts where he is right now from that standpoint, but he does have a couple of clunkers in there. Like he had a couple of three turnover games and losses to the Falcons and Panthers. So how do you factor that in? And then you have maybe the guy who's the best player in Josh Allen in football, right? Like, and so everything that Josh does that maybe goes a little less appreciated because he's done it year after year after year. There's Justin Herbert, who's helped the Chargers navigate all the injuries. There's Christian McCaffrey, who's been the one constant for San Francisco with everything that's gone on there. I mean, ultimately, I think this comes down to May versus Stafford, but like I do think there's a handful of guys who have a pretty good case. Okay. I know you got to get back to work, man. So we kept you here a while, some breaking news, and you can check it all out. There was a reaction in real time. That was pretty good. Yeah, we did. What's your handle again? I forget if you have a clever one at Buckeye Boy sometime. Oh, no, no, no, no. It's just that Albuquerque. I wouldn't do that. I'm only a, I'm a silent member of the Lunatic fringe now. You've gotten a lot quieter, I've noticed, because like there's a few years there where I was like, do I even like rear anymore? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've learned to tone it down. You know, as I've gotten a little bit older, doesn't mean I wasn't freaking out, pulling my hair out, maybe having trouble sleeping on Wednesday night, but, but I'm a little less outward about it than I used to be. I think you'll be okay with a national championship in your back pocket, the run they went on last year from just a year ago. I think, you know, probably helps helps the sting a little bit better. Thanks, Bear. All right. Thanks, Ryan. You want details? Bye. I drive a Ferrari 355 Cabriolet. What's up? I have a ridiculous house in the South Fork. I have every toy you can possibly imagine. And best of all kids, I am liquid. So now you know what's possible. Let me tell you what's required. Life Advice, the email address is lifeadvice.rr at gmail.com. We've got Kyle and Saruti here. Yo, at some point, we're going to pop Tom with Devon on. Look at that. Gotta get my heads up. Gotta get the layouts together. Yeah. Feel it. Kyle looks a lot better now. I don't think I do actually. I was ready to, I was ready to come in strong. I even got a little like moisturizing cream for my wife the other day. I was like, you got anything for like under the eyes here? And then I went drinking at the freaking football for football yesterday. And I feel like shit again. But I realized Saturday, I was like, I'm going to show him. Then I didn't. You were pissed at me, huh? Because I said you looked bad? It was hard. You just, I mean, I just wasn't expecting the how much actually information you had on the docket. I thought you just weren't paying attention. You're like, no, actually, I was going to do you a favor and just leave it alone. So it was almost like you felt bad for me. Which I just didn't think it was, you know, you were hurting and then the eyes thing on top of everything else. And it looked like you were hanging out in Venezuela with that backdrop. So I didn't know what was going on. Thinking about maybe getting like the Poughkeepsie towns, like the city seal and draping it over this thing. I got to do something. Gotta do something unrelated. I'm in the wine business now. I was wondering what this text was. Yeah. So I didn't send it to Kyle. I was like, is this AI? What's happening right now? I'll send it. I'll send it to Kyle right now. So yeah, the whole thing was that I invested in a property basically. And it was a while ago. It was with a friend. I could kind of tell he didn't really need me. He was just offering up like, Hey, I'm opening up this winery thing. And he's like, I don't even know if you're ever going to go, but it's probably more real estate play than it is about the day to day business part of it. So what the fuck? Yeah. And it's our guy Scott from Breakside who in the most un-Rosillo arc of his story ever, somebody spends money for a charity to spend the day with Van Pelt and I. And then I think he did it twice. And we ended up becoming friends. Like a visit to his family when he was in New Zealand. We were in New Zealand at the same time. So he is in the hospitality thing. His Breakside beer thing is incredible. You know, he sent it out and like, we're just giving him a shout out. And I'm promised this was supposed to be sort of organic, but he sent me the labels. They were like, Hey, we know you like soft. Do you want us to make you a Rosillo soft? And I was like, well, I mean, are you going to be like, do I have to like promote it? And is we going to be serious with this thing? He's like, no, we'll just have some fun with it. We'll make some labels. We'll figure out which one you like. And then that'll be the Rosillo soft. And then we'll have it at this one little place in Oregon. And I went, you know what, that's awesome. No problem. They sent in the labels to me while we were taping the show. I'm fucking dying laughing at these things. This is the one I think we're going to go with, but it might be a little stolen valor. It might be a little stolen valor because it looks like I'm wearing British Navy outfit. So maybe we can't get that approved. There's like, you would be an extra in Dunkirk and I wouldn't think twice about it. I know. Is that a metal? I don't know. What is that? Is that a metal? It looks like maybe it's some sort of patch. Yeah, maybe you could just lose the patch. Everything else is kind of like ambiguous. I like it though. Yeah, maybe we lose the patch because maybe I'm just... I feel like we need to put this picture up on the video side of this today, by the way, before we have permission. Yeah, because it's not in the wood. It's just in the running, right? Yeah, it's just in the running. I mean, there's another one here that I think kind of nails it, but this isn't very much fun for the audience right now. So I'm going to get out of it now. I apologize to the audience, but yeah, at the very least, how about this? There will be some sort of Vercilio Sabinian Blanc and I don't think... I don't even know if I'll be able to send it to anybody. So exciting news. It's a great photo. This is the second photo that you sent. Oh wow, that got it. This one I think is the one actually. I'll ask if we can get permission and we'll put it up somehow with the whole thing. Maybe do like a vote thing. You can do votes now on like Instagram and X, right? Yeah, crowdsource going. Yeah, threads is the best polls. So I will... This wasn't great audio. This was not... I'm sorry to the audio side of the audience here on this, but yeah. I think the headline though is that there's going to be just a very... I like it to be not harsh. I like it to be almost just watery, refreshing, dull tones. So we'll see what happens with that one. Speaking of commerce, the addicted to saving guy, that was a pretty clever way of titling his mania life. Yeah, right? So he hit us up. He goes, all right fellas, this was last week. So Mr. Two For One did not start as a lifestyle. I want to check in before I'm labeled a menace to society. It started at Ford Field with an actually gross, cold hot dog. I returned to get a new one and the guy said, just toss the old one. As I'm walking to the trash for people behind the counter or staring at me and I say, sorry, I don't want to waste it. I'll just finish it. Someone immediately yells, oh, we got Mr. Two For One. That's it. That's the whole story origin. All right. Yeah, that's where it started. Then what happened? A few things that feel weird. That was like when Spider-Man got bit by the spider. It was like, yeah, that was just the beginning. The fork in the road, yeah. Yeah, yeah. God, I love that origin story. Such a good one. Peter Parker, all he wanted. He just loves science. He's just a nerdy kid who loves science. You know, you know, Sakhti always had a shitty apartment. I mean, it made him the every man, which is why Peter Parker was so relatable to so many other nerdy kids growing up. You know, like Superman wasn't super relatable. A nerdy kid who's, you know, had kind of a tough home life. And then I loved, I fucking love Spider-Man, by the way, if you're wondering like, wait, Racilloh has this in his bag, you're fucking right, I do. And that's why some of the movies started driving me crazy a little bit more and more. I just think there's some, there's value in there for sort of like a dark, defeated kid. 2002 Spider-Man. Yeah. 2002, yeah. I got, I was really upset about the first Toby Moviar one. I was so excited. But I think it was right around 2002. So literally nothing was going to cheer me up. Yeah. I like that those movies were the, I don't, I remember in real time, those movies being bad. And then now I feel like they've like, it's retroactive, being like, oh no, actually those movies were good. Because remember when like, what was it? It was no way home, whatever the new Spider-Man that came out was, and they brought all three of those guys back into one movie. And then it was like, oh, like, it's amazing. Like these movies were so good, I'm glad everyone can get their shine. I was like, I remember those movies being terrible growing up. Yeah. It's more of just like, not my Spider-Man sort of deal. I think it's just, you get to pick. I mean, I feel like everyone was just on the Toby team. It's like, you guys don't even know, even if that was good or bad, it was just, it's good to pick a side. You were Andrew Garfield guy. No, I mean, I could have just- People hate the Andrew Garfield one. I actually liked it. You could take it or leave it. All right. Well, anyway, I just always thought it was your favorite thing that you're like a superhero in your apartment always sucks. And like, he's worried about money with Mary Jane, because obviously Gwen was the first girlfriend, which also I thought was a little annoying that they kind of went with the Gwen thing after the fact, you know, whatever. You know, he was just haunted by the Gwen Sacy thing, haunted by it. As many of us are. All right. Back to our guy here. A few things that feel important. This doesn't take me time. It's seconds, a quick ask, either it works or it doesn't. I move on. I'm not missing bedtime or sitting on hold, building a case file. The sneaker thing was bad. That's my line, fair. But also, who made those $129 sneakers that last five and a half months of church pickup basketball? I went six or seven on threes after eight months off with a torn meniscus, by the way. Nice. Sounds like something I would say. So no one likes it when I say it. This is very targeted. I'm not doing this at local cheer spots. Kyle, Joe's Italian diner is safe. This is Nike Amazon Walmart. Huge faceless trillion dollar companies with entire departments built to say no. I just happen to enjoy asking, are you sure? And seeing what happens. I also just generally love negotiating. Always have. I felt they deal on my cul-de-sac, lower their cable and phone bills purely for the love of the game. No cut, no commission, just the thrill. I really should be considered more in line with Robin Hood. And people want to label me Prince John hoarding change and a vault while whispering two for one to myself in the dark. Last thing my wife watched the pod the other day and said, Ryan looks strong. No idea how she could make that assumption. But I would want to hear this. If something were said about me, explain to her, he counts reps down instead of up, which has somehow changed my own lifting too. So I'm letting that strong comment slide. She also thinks Kyle and Surya are twins. She wasn't there on Friday, I guess. She wasn't watching on Friday, I guess. Although I don't know, you kind of had like a twilight Surya Mike and Mike shift thing going. No, I don't think Kyle's a pale guy. I got some weird lighting going on. I got a... Yeah, lots of lighting. Right, right, right. Merry Christmas. He sent us a picture in. Like, oh, just gonna take it easy on you. People were upset we didn't kill that guy. I felt like we were going pretty hard for what that guy probably wouldn't expect. I always try to think of it as that guy. Like the first time we did that when the guy wrote in, we're like, dude, are you insane? And they wrote in to tell us about something and we basically just piled on him. I just always try to think of that guy who's like, oh my God, he's reading my email. And we just call him a maniac for 15 minutes. Sometimes you need it though. I know, but still, it doesn't make me feel good. If I recall correctly though, I don't think we really criticized him. I get it. Like, hey, yeah, you're trying to take down the man, right? I think we said that. Like, cool, that's fine. But like doing this over and over again in front of friends and family, like you're just not looking good in that. That's the thing. Like it's just like, oh, he's doing this thing again. Like, what is that? That's his like, you know, he's embarrassed. Yeah, you know, I got so I understand the idea of like, hey, screw this company. I'm just going to try to milk them for everything they're worth. But like, I don't know. Like at some point, you got to grow out of that. Like, you're not embarrassed by that. Your wife clearly kind of seems to be a little bit. Although I guess chime in. She's now a loyal listener. I don't know. Did he oversell it in the first email? And now it's like, he's trying to undersell it a little because I think everybody understood too. If you're some people are going to listen to this and be like, if you're not doing it to local businesses, if you're not doing a mom and pop, my guess would be you have though, you probably have done it. That you're not just targeting, you know, whatever market cap thresholds you're over. Yeah, you want some garlic bread too. That's right. It's not you fucking know you've done it to some local burrito guy. Because it's just in you. And then, you know, the sneaker thing, look, I did the Nike sneaker exchange in the 90s. Like when I heard about it, it was like, they just take everything back and switch them out. It was one of the best days of my life. I sent in four pairs of basketball sneakers. I didn't have any money. They sent me back four brand new pairs of basketball sneakers. And when people first found out about that, what's that? The same ones like, like, no, if it was discontinued, they sent me like whatever that equivalent model was of that family tree of sneakers. So like if I send in a Pippin, because Pippins, I think his second Nikes were unbelievable. And I'm not even like a Pippin guy. Because I think the documentary was the air ones written on the side. No, I know what you're saying, right? That just say straight up air. I had those. Yeah. It was like that. So that might have been in the Pippin family, but there was this one that was the P2s or something. I don't know. Hey, that sounds like Pierce, but they were incredible. And then I had like some hyper. When did this get discontinued? I feel like I've never heard it's unbelievable. I know, I think Patagonia does that. Like you could just, you know, bring stuff back. I don't think they'll give you like a free thing, but they'll give you a store credit. Right. But we had a guy emailing, he goes, this is why LL Bean, guys like this, guys like this, this is why LL Bean had to change everything. Because then people were just like, I back in the day knew a girl that worked at the makeup counter at North Street. You know, I was in there all the time to check in on different sets, you know, pushing the boundaries of what's even possible for a straight male in West Harbor, Connecticut. And she was, yeah, she was telling me like, you don't like it, you can return it. I'm like, well, what the hell's that? She's like, yeah, you can away it, like, what? I don't know. And I was like, you can return to use because she's like, that's what North, their entire policy is, no matter what, you have to return it. And I was like, that must suck. She's like, yeah, you mean like when somebody buys like a $200 jar of La Mer and replaces it with Luba Derm and comes back and goes, I don't like this. And they took out all the La Mer. Like, dude, some guys listen right now. And our female women listeners are like, oh my God, we're still nailing this right now. So yeah, it'd be nice if that's customer service. And, you know, I guess you could argue that when I was 20, I abused the Nike thing once and maybe I'm part of the reason why you can't do it anymore. But I don't think that was destined to last. Nike's pretty big. There's no way that could last. It was like still pre like, not before the internet technically, but it was just kind of like a word of mouth thing. Yeah. And you, you know, you'd be at a party and somebody goes, you know, you can do this. You're like, no way. And then people are like, no way. That doesn't work. I had a buddy in college, he did the golf ball thing, you know, they're like the golf sleeve thing. You would basically take like, you know, a pinnacle box and just put like four Pro-V1 sleeves in there and just, you know, they usually don't. So actually stealing you mean? Well, they still purchased the pinnacle. They were just getting Pro-V1s. That's not the same. That's not the same. That's just stealing. Like, yeah, instead of a soda, I get condiments at 7-eleven and then put a cap on it. It's basically Yeah. I mean, I, when I was living in Poughkeepsie the first time around, I'd go to the mall with some guys and they'd be like, dude, look what I'm doing. I'm like, I'm not, I wasn't really a, you know, snatch it, run kind of guy. I wasn't in, that wasn't in me. I like, you know, maybe you could twist my arm. I think some people would expect that too. So I'm glad we cleared the record. It wasn't like, it wasn't a way of life, you know what I mean? But this guy would like, he would like carefully take tags off of things and swap them, you know, and he was like, he'd be like, look what I'm doing. And I'm like, I can't, I can't be in here, man. And he went, and he was just, you couldn't tell I can't be in here when you were younger. You're like, I can't be in here. Not with you, man. Not with you. Not with you. You're saying dicks. Come on. I like dicks. I love the store, dicks. Why did it have to be that store? Quote panel. That's the one. That was my life, bro. This morning goods was right there. Why did I have to say that one? But yeah, I don't want to be paying this because you know you're a modellist guy too, obviously. Well, yeah, some things you just can't get at modells. Yeah. Yeah, there's some, I mean, if you want to get an Islanders, if you need different versions of an Islanders jacket, most modells are your guy. You really looked at a modellist right, and I don't, I mean, I guess, I guess you're rightfully so they're out of business, I think. So, yeah, call that. Were you probably more in the fencing game? Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. That's kind of what I would be like, hey, I'm not going to, I'm not going to be in there, but if you've got something, discount it, then I can maybe turn it. Be your guy. Yeah, might be a trade, trade for, yes, I think that. Hey, Kyle, what do you got? I've got extra long bamboo tees, three knives, and a couple hockey sticks. Step into my office. Yeah. Oh. Nope. All right. This guy, apparently, somebody wants to pay his tuition. Tuition support from wife's parents. Hey, guys, long time listener, big time, congratulations on the new Ventures. Thank you. 30 years old, six foot, 175, used to live frequently, but gotten a long distance running the last few years. Goals to mix in more weights again this new year. Well, look out, buddy, because it's going to be awesome. I'm very lucky. A guy who married an incredible wife, welcomed our first baby this last year. Great set of families between the two of us, both very supportive. Her parents are also successful entrepreneurs who are extremely well off financially. Important context, they're currently helping us finance the vast majority of our house with the philosophy that they prefer to pass on their wealth, i.e. my wife's inheritance. Early in our lives, when it's more impactful and tend to do the same for the rest of her siblings, she's the oldest, I got to tell you, parents that are pro-wack. Yeah. What great philosophy. How great is that? Because sometimes I think about when I'm dead, I'll be like, okay, you've got four younger siblings, and if I don't have a family, so I would give it all to them. Well, this took a dark turn. Yeah, but then it was like, maybe the move is to try to do something earlier if you ever get to that point. But hopefully, I don't know, they don't listen to the show. So they're not going to be like calling me in six months. But like, hey, I was just wondering if you would kind of change course on the January 5th episode. Yeah. Because it's kind of like, oh, cool, I inherited all this stuff. I'm 72 and my hip doesn't work. Let's start fucking partying. You know, right? So, go back to Whole Foods now. Great. See you later, Aldi. Cancel the Sprouts membership. Yep. All right. They're currently helping us finance the majority of our house, pass on the wealth. They're also vocally supportive of offering to pay for any post-college education or career advancement for any sibling or siblings, husband slash wife. Everything from yoga certification to law school. Now to the crux. I'm several classes into an online master's program. I began a little over a year ago, which I paid for purely out of my own savings when it came up in conversation the other day, the father-in-law graciously offered that they wanted to cover the tuition just as they would for anyone else. He went so as far as say, I would be stupid not to accept the support. I agree with him, by the way, and should continue to build my wife and I savings. When I started the program, I did not originally ask for the support with tuition as they already support us in too many ways. Most recently, a house exclamation point and the master's program is in pursuit of an area I'm passionate about. And though I hope to one day monetize, it's not directly applicable to my career advancement in the way other master's degrees would be. Sounds like somebody's got a hankering for a film degree. It feels like more of my own, more of an investment in myself. However, with this heavy urging, I'm starting to reconsider using their financial support for school and continue to save money for our kids slash kids, especially because I might be dropping some work hours in order to finish school sooner than later. My wife is also strongly in favor of me using their financial support for tuition. For context, my remaining tuition is between $15,000 and $20,000. I'm torn, but I am torn. Is the personal pride worth more than dollars and cents of it, which we could be using elsewhere. Appreciate perspectives. Cheers. This one's going to be quick. Take his fucking money. Stop worrying about it. What's the subject of this? Too good to be true. What's the subject line of this email? Too many things are working out. Help. You're kidding me, man. I get it that you're like one removed from the kids and maybe you like to be like, wow, well, you grew up a certain way. Look, your dad's still paying your phone bill or something, you know? But it's not worth it. That's, you know, whatever pride you get to be like, oh, I grew up poorer than you or I had it worse than you. Like really, it's not worth it. This is awesome. This is so awesome. Yeah, clearly the house thing. I'm still stuck in the house thing. The house things are pretty big bonus. I mean, clearly, again, clearly they like, they're a fan of yours. And they believe in you. So like, you should take that as a compliment. And they want to see you be happy and they want you to pursue whatever dreams that you have. I mean, the only thing that he didn't mention this, the only thing I could think of that like his little awkward is like, his parents being like, wow, like, cool, he just met this, you know, this, your in-laws are like kind of bank rolling your life. And maybe there's a little jealousy in that. I don't know. Yeah, like that could be weird, but he didn't mention that. So and honestly, you don't have to tell anyone that you paid that you're getting this paid for. I mean, I guess, you know, it sounds like they're giving you, I mean, 10 to 15 grand in the grand scheme of what they're likely giving you through your life is probably not a ton. So you could be a hard-oh and just say, no, I'm going to get this one thing, just knowing that you're going to get it for the rest of it, other ways for the rest of your life, if that makes you feel good. But yeah, man, I think, you know, you're, you kind of hit the in-law lottery, you're on scholarship in a different way, you know, like that way. Yeah, they could be anyone and they're these type of people. Fuckin enjoy that. And doesn't sound like they're like holding over you in any way. Like, it's like, hey, like, you have to do this or like, you know, they're making you do things you don't want to do. Like, it just seems like they just love you, man. Yeah, that was a pretty thorough email. He didn't mention any of that. So I think you're probably right. Yeah. And if you want credit for even thinking about it, like, hey, you know, maybe I should just kind of do the right thing and do this on my own. I don't really need their help. Like, at least you thought about it. He says the email. Yeah, he can go and check. It reminds me a little bit of one of the best scenes in the history of television, Turn Haven, succession, when they go to the pierces, try to see if they can buy PGM. And it's the Roy's and it's the pierces and they're having dinner. And Nan Pierce, who's just incredible. She's so good at playing that character. I feel like I've met that mom of my Fairfield County friends so many different times where I'm like, I don't think you like me at all, but you're being incredibly pleasant. And, you know, she starts talking about like value and like what matters in life. And she's like, virtue, you know, these things are real things. Then Tom, of course, Wompscans is like, Oh, well, that's interesting. Because the other day I went and bought a ham I paid for by telling them I care about the environment. And so the reason I bring that up is I read that email is like, Sure, the way you're wired is commendable. Most people wouldn't even write in the email, you know, but I'm like, whatever that reward is, whatever you think that is, it's like, no, no, no, I will finish my master's degree and I will pay for it on my own pocket. I think the sad thing is, is in this specific case, maybe there's other cases, there's other cases where maybe we say like, Oh, this sets the table for like a great life later on, because you made this like incredible decision about, you know, how you see things and how pridefully you are about it, right? But you get a little bit older and you're kind of like, Yeah, who gives a shit? Like no one's going to come back and retroactively, there will never be a moment in your life. Yeah, no one's coming back to you in five years going like, Hey, you know, what was really fucking cool was when you didn't take that extra 15 or 20 year end to cover the master's that your father a law was going to pay. Maybe it makes you better, you know, maybe there's some counter argues and all this stuff. I'm just telling you, there's a lot of stuff like in the moment. And then you, you fast forward the deck a few years and you just go, Well, what the fuck was I thinking? Like, that was just a layup to take. Like, no, no, no, no, you know, Peter should have just mad men get the condo, man. She just wants to help, even though her dad's addicted to hookers. Maybe he's just concerned that in 10, 15, 20 years, when he does hit it big with whatever this endeavor is that he's not going to be able to be labeled as a self made billionaire. You know, think about that. Exactly. Self made, you know, I got so sick of this trend. And it's kind of, we worked ourselves out of some, I think, some absurd things of like, the resentment towards anyone having any kind of advantage. It's like, Yeah, all right. You know, you got me. You got me. I don't have student loans. I did. But I'm just saying like, you know, it's like, Oh, how'd you get that job? Like dad knew one of the guys. Kill them. Yep. You leave it there. So glad you feel that way. I gotta say. I love a good favor. I love a good favor. So I'm glad to hear you say that. I just think things are so hard. Things are hard enough, man. Like, you don't need to start. Keep and score. Yeah, that's a different. That's maybe you could do like a motion that'll be a special. Maybe you could do like motivational like speeches for lucky guys. Like, do you like life's hard enough, man? You would be great. Just walking and be like, how good is this room? Have it. Okay. Last one. Let's finish up here. Is it wrong to put your dog's poop in someone else's trash can? 61225 long time listener going back to the gut back in the gym last year. Love it. Made some gains. Nothing major. I followed this guy on Instagram who's a fucking beast of a guy. I think he's special forces or whatever followed him. Just trying to figure out a couple of things that he's doing. I had zerchlers. I don't know the tendons are gonna hang on and I was watching his videos. I got a DM like an hour later. I was like, this is awesome. Special forces badass. Like, he knows who I am. He wants to hit me up. Maybe we'll get a workout in together. And it was just like a generic link to his workout program for 20 bucks a month. And I was like, damn it. I thought we're gonna be friends. This is my badass friend. She's the same with the kettlebell. Okay. So, getting back to the gym. Fired up for you. My question. I've always wondered when walking my dog. If I pick up a big pile of poop while walking the dog, would it be wrong to drop the poop bag in someone else's trash bin? I'm not talking about walking up to someone else's house, but more so when it's trash day in the cans or at the end of the driveway. In case you were thinking, I've never done it. I've always wondered, what prompted me to fire off this email? Now you ask, while on a run tonight and listening to your Sando pod, I saw this very thing happen. Dude walking his two dogs, picking up poop big enough that I could smell on the way by. So, we're talking almost like, what species is that? Is that a guy? You're like, I don't know what's happened to Tucson. After circling the cul-de-sac, I look ahead to see him drop into the trash can and keep walking. Not my place to say anything, but had to get the panel's input. Love the pod. Happy new year. Well, I know you do. And you should probably go. I was going to say, as a guy who doesn't have his own can, I would say, is it trash day now or did trash day just happen? Is it about to be trash day? Like, how long is this? Did it just go right to the bottom of my can? Am I stuck with this shit for a week? I would imagine that's the kind of reasonable thing that you're like, is it trash day already or are the cans still out there and you just found a receptacle? It has to be a full can trash. Can't come yet. And then even then, if somebody's like, I don't want you putting your shit in my trash can, you still have to be like, okay, I guess I'm sorry. You can't try to defend your choice. You have to say my bad. Didn't know that was a special trash can. I don't really know why, but it feels wrong. I don't have an explanation for it, but it just, you know what I mean? Maybe because it's a shit and someone else's stuff. Yeah, here we go. Yeah, but logically, I'm like, yeah, why should I care? It's all going to the same place. It's a vessel. It's the same day. Like, yeah, okay, it's an empty thing. It's going to sit in my yard, you know, Brian's in a very walkaway party. Sure. I will say I did get yelled at once, not residential, but I was on a walk in town with the dog, big poop, cleaned it up and threw it in like a big dumpster behind like a building of like, you know, offices, whatever, Yada Yada. And this one of the store owners came out and was like, basically, what are you doing? And I kind of called me out on it and I didn't think that was that big of a deal because it's like, but you just have to say sorry. You're like, you're like, yeah, I just, it is for your interest. Like I'm not going to get it. So, but like, it did feel a little wrong. And I think, I think if this is a residential thing, I would lean more like it definitely is wrong. I don't have a great explanation for why it is wrong. It just feels wrong, you know? Yeah. When I do it, I certainly am like peeking around like that guy's not as porch, is he? You know? But yeah, but I will do it. And I think it's, I don't think you can explain it away. If somebody says what you shouldn't be doing that, you have to be like, all right, you caught me sort of like when I would get caught smoking weed when I was younger. It's like, I'm not going to argue with it. You should let me smoke weed. I'm just going to say I'm sorry. And, you know, oh, we're on right up in the shower. I love that. Just did you say that? No, I'm not going to argue. No, I would just be like, damn, you got me. I would have a little shame, you know what I mean? Like one of my younger brothers would be trying to argue. It's like, I could be over here doing this instead. I'm like, no, man, you just have to be like, you got me. Let's have say what they have to say. And then go about your business, man. Be a little smarter. That's all. What are how many parents cared way less about kids getting caught smoking weed than you realize? Like the first thing is like, oh my God, gateway drugs, you know? Yeah. I think you also just, you're like, oh, I have a different kind of kid than I thought. I didn't know he was into that type of shit. Like I was kind of had some plausible deniability, but here it is. But then when you realize how many parents smoke weed, yes, you're kind of like, you know, the hibikrits thing doesn't really work because there's, you know, like, hey, I'd rather you not burn one down the way back from practice at 15 years old regularly, you know? Yeah. Can we talk about that? I remember one time in high school, I went to meet up with some guys and it was early days and they all just started ripping trees. And I was like, oh yeah, I'm not, I'm not down with this. I don't want to do this. And then I came back and I got in the car and my dad picked me up in the truck. I was like, hey, I, I wreak a weed. He's like, yeah, I can tell. You're like, but I didn't, I didn't, I was like, I didn't smoke any weed just so you know. And he's like, okay, all right. You believe me. And it was also true too. But I can't imagine. I don't know. I don't think he was afraid of it back in the day. Not as an adult, but you know, 60s. Yeah. Let me talk about your father tells you a story about going to the Chicago riots. I'm like, oh, you probably liked weed too. All right, so poop it again, poop it again. Yeah, what are your thoughts? I think it's wrong. Yeah, I know you're very wrong. Now somebody who has a sidewalk, like the front door of my house is the sidewalk of the town. So I spend, I mean, if I were really old, maybe my daily entertainment be yelling at people for having their dogs go and I have like iceberg roses and they're supposed to be mulch, but the mulch is always kicked out because the dogs are constantly in their shitting, ruining my plants and all that kind of stuff. But rarely, rarely does anyone ever leave. Is that many dogs in there? Running through there? I have like this little track for you. A lot of dogs. There's this nice little track and I live near the beach, obviously. And so people, it's a really prominent walking area and there's dogs everywhere all the time. And my spot has this area on the sidewalk that is like, it's almost like a New York City patch for dogs. Like dogs see it and they go, oh, yeah. Here we go. Fuck up this guy's roses. Because sometimes I'll ask the landscapes, I go, what's going on with the mulch levels? Like these are low again. And then everybody just kind of puts their hands up. It doesn't look like it's a good thing to me. So. Dogs, man. Yeah. I inherited the crew from the previous owner. I'm just, you know, keeping it going. But yes, it is wrong. It is wrong. And I'm going to leave it at that. I'm just going to say it is wrong to leave it in the trash can of someone else's trash can. And you know what? I expect to hear from dog owners. We'll revisit this on Wednesday. You have no context. Like it's like, unless, unless that, you know, I know exactly what's going to happen here. Okay. So I'm going to wait. And we will let this one bake. Are you going to get a dog shit and somebody else's trash can for a week? Yeah. Yeah. Are you going to get a sign? Curve your dog? You don't want to sign. Don't be signed. There's nothing. There's literally nothing I can do. There's nothing. It's true. I can do about it is the place I decided to live. And there are far more great things about it than bad things. It is a little frustrating. And it's a little annoying that everyone kind of looks at the patch in front of my house going like, Oh, here we go. So I don't, I gave up. I don't even, I wouldn't yell at anybody. No, but again, my dog thing is, is very complicated. My father was a humble carpenter growing up. Everybody knows that. And we would stop and do estimates and estimates was the worst word ever. You get picked up from school, you get picked up from practice and be like, Hey, we got an estimate. And you just go, Oh, this is the fucking worst. And I'd always hold the other end of the tape measure. What I didn't realize is I was a marketing ploy because it made the homeowner feel like, Oh, he's got this little co-headed kid here. And he's still looking at them holding the tape measure. And he's so cute, quiet, whatever. And I would be attacked by strangers dogs multiple times a week for those formative like, Hey, this animal doesn't seem like a great time. So everybody else loved dogs and kids love dogs. And all I would be like, just getting mauled because I was new. I was the smallest target. And then of course, Oh, he's really friendly. He gets really excited to meet new people. Meanwhile, just scratches and saliva and ball sniffing and the whole thing. And you just go like, imagine doing that multiple times a week from like age four to 12. When I think I finally could be like, I don't have to do this anymore. I don't want to go on the estimate. I had a sister. Okay. She was a better marketing ploy then. Well, I just, I think it's, it's funny with the signs. I'll leave. I know we're like pretty much done here, but like I would walk my grandmother's dog for her a lot in LA, nice neighborhood. And some houses were like, they would just have the signs like, don't, don't go here. And then don't even go on the patch on the sidewalk. Like, you know, how it's like your house sidewalk. And then there's a little patch towards the curb. They're like, don't even go on this patch. It's like, I just think it's, you know, pretty ballsy to be like, don't use this part of the street. We all know that people's dogs are going to have to go somewhere, but not on my patch. Don't you dare. Yeah. And then look, I know that we're going to get some people who are like, Hey, the patch, the sidewalk, that's actually owned by the city. Like, okay, well, cool. I have a landscaping bill. I can forward them. Right. All right. That'll do it for the show. We have a lot of other stuff that we need to get to some, some big news. And maybe we'll put up one of those wine logos there. If you get it approved from the winery. Thanks to Tom. Thanks to Kevin. Thanks to Kyle and Saruti. I hope everybody gearing up on a Monday after that holiday stretch like that. That's always a tough one. So hopefully you enjoyed the show. Please subscribe.