The Confused Breakfast

BRUNCH- Top 10 Fictional Movie/TV Bands with SuperRetro

74 min
Mar 30, 202623 days ago
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Summary

The Confused Breakfast and Super Retro podcasts collaborate on a top 10 list of fictional movie and TV bands, discussing how these bands inspired their personal music journeys and shaped their understanding of creativity, perseverance, and artistic passion across multiple decades of pop culture.

Insights
  • Fictional bands serve as powerful cultural touchstones that inspire real-world creative pursuits, with hosts crediting specific movie/TV bands for motivating them to form actual bands
  • The gap between perceived and actual musical ability in media (actors not really playing instruments) doesn't diminish the emotional impact or inspirational value of these fictional performances
  • Passion and determination matter more than technical skill or resources when starting creative projects; multiple bands discussed succeeded through drive rather than perfect conditions
  • Method acting and immersive research (like Terrence Howard's 2.5-year pimp research) demonstrates the commitment serious actors bring to authentic character portrayal in music-focused films
  • Nostalgia-driven podcast communities thrive on shared cultural experiences and genuine enthusiasm rather than novelty, with hosts emphasizing the importance of being 'cool people' in the space
Trends
Nostalgia-based entertainment podcasts gaining prominence as dedicated audience segment with strong community engagementFictional bands in film/TV functioning as narrative devices for exploring themes of perseverance, identity, and artistic validationMethod acting in music biopics becoming more rigorous, with actors spending extended periods immersed in subject culturesPodcast collaborations between complementary shows as strategy for audience cross-pollination and content differentiation80s and 90s pop culture experiencing sustained cultural relevance and reappraisal through modern podcast discourseDIY music production and garage band culture romanticized in film as accessible entry point to artistic expressionParody and tribute bands as legitimate narrative subjects in comedy films exploring authenticity vs. imitationMusic-driven storytelling in film creating lasting emotional connections that transcend technical execution quality
Topics
Fictional Bands in Movies and TelevisionMusic as Inspiration for Personal Creative PursuitsNostalgia Podcasting and Community BuildingMethod Acting in Music BiopicsDIY Music Production and Garage Band Culture80s and 90s Pop Culture RelevancePerseverance and Determination in Artistic CareersParody Bands and Tribute Bands in FilmPodcast Collaboration StrategiesEmotional Impact of Fictional Music PerformancesMusic Video Production and CinematographyHip-Hop and Rap Music in FilmMetal and Rock Music in CinemaCharacter Development Through Musical PerformanceAuthenticity vs. Entertainment in Music-Focused Films
Companies
Big Rove Brewery
Sponsor providing beer products; hosts discuss specific beer varieties and brewery locations across Iowa and Nebraska
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People
Will
Co-host of Super Retro podcast discussing fictional bands and their cultural impact with Confused Breakfast
Tucker
Co-host of Super Retro podcast; former hip-hop musician with 20+ years audio production experience
Mike Schulte
Host discussing how Zac Attack from Saved by the Bell inspired him to form his first band as a child
Sean
Host discussing CB4 film and its music parody elements; knowledgeable about music biopics and film history
AJ
Host discussing Empire Records and Steel Dragon; passionate about 80s metal and film music production
Eddie Murphy
Portrayed Randy Watson and Sexual Chocolate band in Coming to America; discussed for comedic performance
Chris Rock
Starred in CB4 as MC Gusto; part of ensemble cast in music parody film from early 1990s
Terrence Howard
Starred in Hustle and Flow; spent 2.5 years researching pimps and prostitutes for authentic character portrayal
Mark Wahlberg
Starred in Rockstar as tribute band member turned Steel Dragon lead singer; grew hair for method acting
George Carlin
Portrayed Rufus in Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure; provided credibility to Wild Stallions narrative
YK Kim
Created and starred in Miami Connection; cast his Taekwondo students in film about orphan band fighting ninjas
Brendan Fraser
Starred in Airheads as member of Lone Rangers band; part of acclaimed ensemble cast in music comedy
Adam Sandler
Starred in Airheads as member of Lone Rangers band; contributed to ensemble performance in music comedy
Steve Buscemi
Starred in Airheads as member of Lone Rangers band; part of acclaimed ensemble cast in music comedy
Tamara Davis
Directed CB4 music parody film; also directed Half-Baked and Billy Madison; dated Mike D from Beastie Boys
Three 6 Mafia
DJ Paul from Three 6 Mafia helped Terrence Howard prepare for Hustle and Flow rap performance
Zach Wylde
Guitarist from Ozzy Osbourne and Black Label Society; performed in Rockstar film with real musicians
Jason Bonham
Son of Led Zeppelin's John Bonham; performed in Rockstar film as part of legitimate musician ensemble
Quotes
"My entire life force is on that tape."
Chaz from Airheads (The Lone Rangers)Mid-episode discussion
"Their music is the foundation for the whole future of society. Their music will end war and poverty, aligning the planets in universal harmony."
Rufus from Bill and Ted's Excellent AdventureWild Stallions discussion
"You don't know what it's like out there. You don't know what it's like to play a show in front of 20 people made up of the other bands and their girlfriends."
Character from AirheadsLone Rangers discussion
"Zac attack changed my life."
Mike SchulteOpening picks
"We're in a world where a nostalgia podcast about movies is not a new idea. And in this world, there are some very hip people that do cool stuff together, and you guys are on the top echelon."
Will from Super RetroCollaboration introduction
Full Transcript
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You got Casino on Thursday. You got Steve's on interview on Friday. And a Patreon if you signed up. And a Patreon on Friday. And now it's Monday and you're getting a brunch. And then on Thursday, you're gonna get clueless. Can you get enough? Can you get enough? Can you? Diggit. Diggit. Well, we're just gonna do a little intro to this one. We just got off the recording line with our friends from a podcast called Super Retro. If you haven't seen these guys, they're a podcast. You can hear them on Apple and Spotify. You can see them on YouTube. And you can check out their socials. They are, you know, in a world, I think I mentioned it in a crowded world of nostalgia and movies and TV and music podcasts. They're two dudes that really stuck out for me a long time ago. Like, we would get along with these guys. These are cool dudes, much like Raiders. You know, like, they're just good people in the space. And we've been talking online for like a year on how do we collaborate, how do we get together. And so we finally did it. We put together our, I guess you'd call it a top 10 list of fictional movie television bands. And we put it together and it's freaking fantastic. I think people are really gonna love it. Will and Tucker are super cool. They were super cool to talk to and have some really good pics that some of them I'm very jealous of. Yeah, I was jealous. Because we did it, we did it really fun and we kind of did a round robin on the whole thing of our pics and we abided by it. And I was very jealous by the end of that draft. We were jealous with you guys. First, like first, like, Tuck walks in and picks his first one. I'm like, God! I'm sorry! This is the one I wanted. So then I made a, yeah, I made a couple questionable pics but the crazy thing is there's so many that we left out that I think people are gonna be mad about. That's the thing. And once you listen, tell us the ones we left out. Tell us the glaring and the mission. We know it, sure. We know we did. There's some big ones that won't be on there but just tell us anyway. Because we'll respond and be like, yeah, that's great. Yeah, well, you're right, fine. Do you want the key? You just wanna take over the podcast, go ahead. Okay, whatever. Okay, you guys know better than we do, fine. Most of the time. But most of the time you do. Yeah, you do. Super retro knew better than us, I think this time around for sure. And please make sure. There's some good guesses anyway. Please make sure you watch the YouTube because it's a literal battle of who has a cooler retro set for their podcast. Cause I think it's probably those guys. If you, like our couch is like, ha, it's funny. Their couch was like, no, that's fucking retro. It's legit. I would sleep here forever. Real deal. Yeah, I think that couch, I've definitely slept on that couch a couple of different times in my life already. So. Yeah. You gotta check out the episode and you gotta check out Super Retro. Check them out on Instagram, socials, podcasts, YouTube. They are just good people doing good stuff. If you like this, they get a little more focused into like music, TV shows, video games, sort of the all encompassing nostalgia. A lot of great top 10s on just like random stuff. Random stuff. Like we did a, what, top five drinks, like from nostalgic drinks, stuff like that. That gets me every single time. And then they're fantastic on their commentary about it. Yeah. Well, let's roll the interview. Here we go. Oh, here we go. Finally, finally, the two coolest nostalgia based, just cool podcasts on the planet. Everybody's been like, you should collaborate Super Retro. We're like, I know we're gonna, cause they're cool dudes. Super Retro in the house, confused breakfast is good to be here boys. Man. Thank you, bro. All of our guys have been saying the same thing about you guys. For sure. And when we started the podcast, I'll tell you guys, when I would tell people what we do, I swear to you, probably 20, 25 times this has happened to me, a long time ago when we first started. Oh, have you heard of confused breakfast? Every single time. And I'm like, at the time, honestly, I hadn't. And so I was like, well, I guess I got to look into these guys. So yeah, man, you guys are super dope. It's really cool to do this with you guys. Well, let me start it off. I just, I just have to say this. Like we're in a world where like a nostalgia podcast, especially about movies is like, it's not a new idea. Okay. It's been done. Everybody does it. And in this world, there are some very, very hip people that are just like, let's do cool stuff together. And there's some people that are not that we've kind of run into. And you guys are on the top echelon of just cool people. So this collab made total sense to us. Thanks man. You feel the same way about you guys. 100% man. Thank you. Well, here's what we're doing. We already introed it. We're talking, we may have taken a different approach on this. The way I took my approach was the two bands that I picked were influential to me. These are fictional bands from movies or TV shows, but they were influential to me, like, which is why I love them so much. So I'm going to go first. My first one is the Zac attack from say by the bell TV. Now picture this, the year is 1991. Young Mike Schulte, nine years old. I was infatuated with two things. Say by the bell. I love that show. And I also loved music. So you can imagine what kind of absolute explosion happened in my brain when these incredibly cool high school kids who I looked up to and I thought could do no wrong, decided that all of a sudden they could play instruments and form a band and get super famous. If anybody remember, I'll throw some props up to Hot Sunday. Obviously the female group, Hot Sunday, deserves its props, but that's not what this is about. The Zac attack was mainly formed in an episode called Rockumentary from season three, episode 22. And this is what happened, if you don't remember. They were playing in their garage. They were a band. A record producer went scampering by on a jog and heard them in their garage. Entered and said, I've got to sign you. And so they get signed, they get huge. They sell five million records. And then of course fractures in the band happen. They're famed, Zac's big head. This is before we knew that Zac Morris is trashed, but you know, obviously we know that now. Completely break up. Everybody goes their own way. Zac's out with his hot new producers trying to change him into vanilla ice. When AC Slater gets hurt, everybody rushes to the hospital. Apparently Kelly's a nun now. Lisa is an American gladiator. Jesse Spannell was not even in the episode because she hurt her knee in real life and missed a couple episodes. But the band gets back together and it ultimately turns out to be a dream that Zac is having in his garage. As a kid, this meant the world to me to tell me that I could maybe get my friends together and start a band. And about two years later, I formed my very first band because of the Zac attack. Friends Forever, you guys remember that song? Oh yeah. It's hot, okay? That's a good one, bro. Damn. That makes me laugh, bro. And you really believed it. But that's what's weird, man, because it was a dream, right? But then they still, at a later episode, they're playing at the school prom or something like that. So I really don't know what to believe. All I know is Friends Forever, did we ever have a chance, was the slow jam that they wrote. I'm telling you, man, Zac attack changed my life. I like to think that maybe they did in fact start the band, but the dream really kicked in with this producer jogging by. You know what I mean? Everybody gets discovered this way. It's the way the music industry is. I mean, it's totally normal. It's totally normal. Easy to get a record deal, just play. Yeah, just as long as you're doing you, man, and being true to yourself, bro, you can make it. It's like, well. I think Mike has told me that before and told that to us before on the show. So we were recording it. But every time I hear it, it's just a shocking. It's just a shocking. That made you want to start a band. Listen, Lisa Turtle, obviously the black girl has to play bass guitar. That's a South Park thing. That's what they told us in South Park. AC Slater on drums. You got Zach Morris shredding the guitar, singing lead. Screech, of course, we don't know what to do with them. Throne on the keys, who cares? I mean, it was a fantastic episode, guys. Don't judge me. Is it right? Epic first pull. Dude, I got a confession. I'm not gonna lie. When I watched that, because I was a Saved by the Bell fanatic too, I watched it every time I got off school. Come home, watch it. But I had no fucking clue that they weren't good musicians. Like I was like, oh, they learned. They learned to play music. Oh yeah, early on. I had no clue. Makes the whole sense. And early on. Slater can't play the drums? Looks good to me. We believed it. Anytime we saw somebody playing. Doing pretty good up here. Instruments, we believed that. Didn't know shit that no one was playing. Off subject real quick, but you were talking about the skateboard. What were we just talking about, the skateboard? Oh, gleaming the cube. Yeah, Christian. Oh yeah, Christian. It wasn't him skating. Slater couldn't fucking skate. We believed that shit though. They tried to train him. But anyway. I didn't know he wasn't doing a McTwist. Same thing with this. Yeah. And now looking back, you watch Slater playing the drums and you're like, Yep. No. He wasn't playing. That's not how you play drums. Absolutely not. Exactly. We got 10 coming down the line. We're gonna move on. So I think, Will, you gotta go up with your first one. What do you got, Will? All right, well, I'm gonna start with my first. And this is a little different than yours. Cause this, not, these two, the ones I picked didn't necessarily, you know. Inspire you. Inspire me. But it's shit that stayed with me as an adult. And I would find myself randomly quoting it through life. And first I'll start off with the music. And coming to America, there's a scene where they introduce this, it's Eddie Murphy, but it's Randy Watson. Hell yeah. And like throughout my life, I would just be like, Randy Watson. And I have no clue why. And the sexual chocolates. And when they play, it's the shortest little scene. And it's just, it really has nothing to do with the movie. And it's so funny. Cause they just play this little half song and it's absolutely hilarious. And then at the end, he just sits there and fucking mic drops and walks out. And then everybody's like, the fuck just happened? And in that scene, I just laugh. Even today, if I get to catch that scene on anytime, it makes me smile. And thinking about Eddie Murphy playing that character, it just kills me, man. Yeah. I like how I saw they all had suits on. The whole band had suits on. Anytime the band has matching suits, you know shit's about to be serious. Yeah. Fucking great. So yeah, I loved it, man. That was a, Randy Watson, he had Jerry Curl, didn't he? Oh, they all did. They all swing as Jerry Curl went. That's that soul glow, bro. Yeah. Soul glow. Soul glow. Some more music we could wax on for sure. Or I guess, I guess, was a, slow glow, it's like, just like hair syrup, I guess, or whatever. Yeah, hair spray. Is hair spray? Okay, yeah. But man, just let your soul glow, that song. That song, James. Randy Watson. Oh man, dude. And I always remember, I think it's the bass player. Has like the most insane mohawk or something. And it's just like, but listening to him, like sing that song, they're doing like some weird rendition of like, children or a future. I don't think it's children or a future. Everybody. Yeah. Let them lead the way. Hey, he came back in part two. Let them lead the way. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's so good, bro. That boy good. You see him in part two? That's another quote that I always say, yeah, he good. Good and terrible. I've said that throughout my life. Yeah, he's good. He's good and terrible. But yeah, that's it. What a great like, yeah, man. Just like, what a great setup of how many characters they all played. And then it's like they just found reasons to just do more makeup stuff in that movie. But it worked out so well because I think wasn't the pastor Arsenio Hall they do introducing him. And then, I don't know. And they played like so many freaking people in there. But sexual chocolate. He been my pastor since I was a little boy. Kills me, bro. Kissed him on the forehead or something. Kissed him and then the guy was like, it's like they got paid by the character in that movie. Arsenio and Eddie were like, I'll play another one. They put it in the budget. Yeah, I'll do it. As many as you play, you get paid. I'll fucking play 10. Let's go. They're like, well, it's cheaper than hiring another actor. I'm happy to do it. You know? Great, great pick, Will. Sean, what do you got for your first one? Well, you said yours influenced you. I got to say that this next group influenced the hell out of me as well. And this group was formed by MC Augusto, Stabmaster Arsen and Dead Mike. I'm talking about CB4, Cell Block 4 from CB4. Man, I haven't seen this movie in a long time. I just rewatched it the other night. And honestly, my review of it, just one sentence review of it, is this is a better music biopic than most music biopics. It's incredible. It's what we have. We have Chris Rock. Chris Rock's in this. Alan Payne, Charlie Murphy, Phil Hartman. Chris Elliott is the guy doing the documentary on them. Chris Elliott. It's amazing. So it's basically Chris Rock and his buddies are kind of wanting to break into the rap business. And this is like early, early 90s. They come across Charlie Murphy's character, who owns this club, Gusto's. And he ends up going to jail. And Chris Rock kind of takes his whole image and calls himself MC Gusto and creates this whole group, basically ripping off NWA. It's like sending that up pretty much. But I will say, I didn't hear NWA. I heard straight out of low-cash before I heard straight out of Compton. So I thought straight out of low-cash was the song. And like sweat from my balls in this is just so funny. The way they take these lyrics and it's like, oh, fuck your mom. Oh, fuck your cab. But your mom's too fat or something like that. It's just like, what in the hell is going on? But this is directed by, who is this? Tamara Davis, actually. She did half-baked. Really? She also did Billy Madison. And just recently had a documentary at Sundance, The Best Summer. And she was dating, I think, who's it? Mike from Beastie Boys? Oh, yeah, you're right. She was dating him at the time. And so I think that's how she got all of her music connections. But she knows Kim Gordon and everything like that as well. This movie is really funny. I've never seen it, man. Charlie Murphy is actually extremely hilarious in this and worth the watch, RIP. But yeah, honestly, the way that it's like, walk hard, but for rap. And it's wonderful. But also, I know they're ripping Off-Street at a Compton and all these famous rap songs. But they're really good, especially for being parody songs. They're really, really funny. And yeah, man, if you haven't seen CB4, it's worth your time. Have you guys familiar? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I got some notes, man. I got some notes on CB4. It reminds me of a two. When I hear the word CB4, there's a two short song on his Get Him Where You Fit an album, where he said, it's a diss song. It's a diss song. He wrote about a local rapper. And he says, now you're hardcore like CB4, biting what you want to be me for. And the reason that's a diss is because they were a parody band of an actual real band. So I love that. Every time I hear CB4, I think about two short. And dead Mike has a second verse in Straight Out of Lowcash. The lyrics are fucking hilarious. I mean, to me, they put real thought into coming off as abrasive as possible, but with the dumbest fucking lyrics. And I love it. Dead Mike says, float like a cannonball, sting like a shark. That shit made me crack up earlier the way he said it. I was cracking up. And then another one of my favorite parts of that is Phil Hartman's character is like a stuffy politician. And he represents in the early 90s the attack on hip hop. You know what I mean? From the government and from politicians. And they were all stuffy and buttoned up. And they're talking about sex on records and saying, fuck. And they wanted to cancel them way back then. But Phil Hartman has them arrested during a sweat from my balls. And it's fucking hilarious when they're like hitting with balloons and shit as they're pulling them off stays. They have these big black, they have these big brown balls that they keep acting like they're their balls. It's so good, man. It's so good. And yeah, those are my notes on that one. That's great, bro. Charlie Murphy and fucking Phil Hartman, RIP, man. Those two dudes are legend. Yeah, it's crazy how good this movie is. And really no one talks about it. And I think honestly, like I said, it should be up there with like Walcard. Because Walcard is one of my favorite comedies of all time. Definitely not as good as that in my opinion. But it's any other day like a double feature of those, top to your day. Well, Tuck, you're up next. What do you got, man? All right. Well, my first one I want to talk about is the Wild Stallions from Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, which we have the movie right here, not just Excellent Adventure. It's Wild Stallions transcend just Excellent Adventure. OK, so. Absolutely. It's Way Day at Wayfair. From April 25th through the 27th, you can score the best deals for in and around your home, guys. Like up to 80% off with free shipping on everything. Wayfair makes it super easy, guys, to find exactly what fits your style and your needs, from furniture and decor to home improvement and outdoor essentials. And it's all on sale during Way Day. So it's easy to upgrade your space with quality pieces that work within your budget. 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But yeah, they pretty much represent every kid who ever picked up a guitar before they had any real skill, but believed anyway that, you know, with enough practice, then maybe they could. But they almost catch, the Wild Stallions, almost catch the garage on fire in the opening scene. And you already know, God damn, these guys are terrible. Like they're playing there, they're stressing their amps out to the max that they're about to catch on fire and burn the house down. That's a great open right there. Shit had me cracking up. Oh, but I was gonna say, I admire their drive though. I think we all, any musician can admire their hunger for more and to, you know, God, if we could just figure this out, if the cards could fall where we need them to fall, some shit might happen for us. But all that they needed though, all that they needed was that triumphed video to get Eddie Van Halen. They needed that triumphed video and then Eddie Van Halen would come join the Wild Stallions. And unfortunately, you know, that didn't work out for him. But the whole movie, you know, is based around their music without them actually ever even playing because if Ted doesn't pass that history final, he's going to the military academy and the only thing he gives a shit about is that the Wild Stallions will cease to exist. You know, so that's all the motivation he needed. Up until that point, he didn't care about nothing else. He just needed that one motivational factor. Oh, I'm gonna lose my band and I'll never become famous and I'll never be who I want to be. So that's all he needed. So that's what set them off to get this history final figured out. I like how it starts like you just said. And then like their music changes the world. Yeah, it becomes the way society is changed through their music from a shitty band. But what a beautiful sentiment. When we review this movie, like we talk about how the world's so messed up and we're never, this is never going to happen. Like music's never going to change the entire world, but the idea of it like makes me so happy. They believe they will. They believe they will. And I'm telling you, when they go to that futuristic place for the first time, there's a song playing by a guy named Robbie Robb and it's called In Time. And that song still gives me shivers when I think about it. Like that's the song that is going to save the world right there. And I feel like that's their song that they're listening to. It has to be. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, that's the way I took it when I went back and watched it. I was like, yeah, yeah, that's their song. That's what they're talking about. Because at the end, George Carlin, what's the character's name? Rufus. Rufus, he tells them when they went there, I believe he tells them when they went there, that was them acknowledging who they were. So I believe that was their song too. But look, I have one of my favorite lines kind of unrelated to them being a band, but I just have to say it because the shit cracked me up the other day. It's when they're at the Circle K and the fucking, the phone booth shows up for the first time. No, the phone booth shows up for the first time. I think that's what happens. But Ted goes, Bill, strange things are a foot at the Circle K. That shit cracked me up. I was not ready for that. But my favorite line still from that parking lot is when he goes, excuse me, ma'am, when did the Mongols rule China? Gee, I don't know. I just work here. Yeah. I've been to that Circle K. I've been to that Circle K and it's nothing to write home about. It's a normal Circle K. I mean, it was sick. I took a picture obviously. That's cool. But the highlight of the movie for me is when Rufus rips a solo at the end and it is amazing. Yeah. And my kids were watching it with me the other day and they said, dad, is he really playing that? And I said, son, I don't think so. And they're like, how do you know I go? Because I can tell by the way it's framed. I don't know. It's just because it would cut the hip. You know how movies do. You can tell right away if the guy is really playing it and it cuts to his chest, he's doing this motion. And then it cuts to someone else's hands playing. They thought that was hilarious. Like Ralph Macchio in whatever that movie is. What's the guitar? Crossroads. Crossroads. Yeah, Ralph Macchio is not playing the guitar. We know this. OK. But I'll end on this, guys. Their music does end up changing the world because Rufus at the very end tells him this. I'm going to read the quote. He says, their music is the foundation for the whole future of society. Says their music will end war and poverty, aligning the planets in universal harmony, allowing meaningful contact with all forms of life from extraterrestrial beings to common household pets. And it's excellent for dancing. Bro. So. Do you mind if I jam with you? Yeah. That's right. Oh, one more thing. Mind if I rip a Jimi Hendrik-esque solo? Dude, George fucking Carlin, bro. Yeah, and George Carlin in the movie just lends so much credibility to it. He does. I hadn't watched this movie in a long, long time. Honestly, I'm not the biggest movie guy. So I completely forgot he was even in the movie. And it immediately starts with him. I was like, damn, this is a good movie already. Yeah. He's the best, bro. So that's what I got. That's a fantastic. That would have been my pick had you not taken it. So I am grateful for you on this. Hopefully I did it, Justin. Yeah. Yes, you did. AJ, what do you got, man? All right, I'm going to start here because if I'm going last in this whole ordeal, I feel like I got it. I'm going to end on a big one. OK. But I'm going to go here. And I don't know why, but for some reason, this just stuck out to me as kind of it is a very influential movie for me, music wise. And that's Empire Records. And I'm specifically focusing on Rex Manning, who is not inspirational to me other than his great hair. But like, you know, put thousand on dressing or whatever. Blue cheese. Blue cheese. Yeah, dude. So the whole thing of Rex Manning and its Rex Manning Day at Empire Records, the record store of the movie. And it's Rex Manning Day. And to me, as a kid, you think about this and you're just like, oh, like Rex Manning Day, like there's a holiday for this or something. And then you realize, no, it's just Rex Manning is visiting this particular record store, indie record store, just on a random day. And then so like back then you think, man, he must be a big deal coming through, you know? But now you watch it and you're like, geez, what's going wrong in his career that he's got to be making like these kind of moves right now, which is obvious now, like the whole idea and the point. But Rex Manning came across, he's got that song, Say No More, Monet More. And. Banger. Guys, I think it's kind of a banger. I'm going to be honest with you. It's your bangs. Like Don Henley could have written this song and I would have been all about it. I mean, they certainly stole the music video idea from some Don Henley stuff, right? And I'm just like, you know, I feel like Rex Manning's getting a bad rap throughout this whole thing. And they're talking trash on his hair even. And I'm like, his hair doesn't look that bad. You know? Like I don't get it. I don't understand. Could we have some more reference to his hair? I think Rex Manning gets a bad rap throughout this movie other than a couple of things, obviously. That being said, you know, at least he's still got the confidence to really put all these little people in their place at the end of it all, right? So I don't know, Rex Manning, he's a pretty important figure, I feel like, in the fictional music world of movies. I think he's a pretty big deal out there. We agree. I would agree. I mean, hey, hey, dude, you've got a record deal, bro. Yeah. Yeah. See? Fuck those dudes at the record store. You know what I mean? Yeah. This guy, that's Rex Muckin Manning, bro. That's just Rex Manning day. Yeah. OK, you get this man a chair he wants. Yeah. You can have any hair he wants, bro. That's right. If you're talking about influential, like that man now has created a, that fictional Rex Manning now is, the Rex Manning day is a thing that we all, it's April 8th. It's coming up for anybody out there that celebrates. It's coming up. It is. And it's a thing that we're going to do, OK? Rex Manning day. I'm with it. I guess he was like, I was reading about it and I had some notes like, it was more like Robert Palmer, I guess, was probably, which like, is it Robert Palmer who did Dirty Laundry? I think so. OK, that's probably what it was then. But he did Dirty Laundry, that song Dirty Laundry. I like that song. But I like, it's a great song, man. That's why, like maybe that's why I think Rex Manning is worth something. But because I have some with that, but the date you were mentioning, Mike, that's actually, they did it as like a tribute for Kurt Cobain. It's like Kurt Cobain day was apparently the secret. That's what they were going for in the movie. Yeah. Like they say the date was chosen because of Nirvana's front man was found dead at that on that day. On April 8th. On April 8th, 1994. Whoa. Marking the day 90s music lost its mascot. And its place, Rex Manning. Rex Manning is risen. Wait, are you saying Kurt Cobain died in 94? That's what it says. Is that true? Rex Manning's day is celebrated annually on April 8th. And it's, yeah, Nirvana's front man Kurt Cobain, April 8th. If you would have said, tell me, I would have said like 96 or something like that. Really? That's just how my brain was. Okay. Yeah. Well, he learned something new every day. I learned something new every day. That movie needed a good song in it. No matter what. So I'm glad it was Rex Manning. Cause the rest of the soundtrack sucks. Not that good man. There's only a few. Like you got some cranberries and you got some. Let's take it back. Who's who's. Toad the wet sprocket. Toad the wet. Oh, of course. Yes. No. Who's. I don't know. You like. You like. You like. Gin Blossoms. Gin Blossoms. Yeah. They're there. I just got a new theory. Nothing that Mark likes. Did Rex Manning kill Kurt Cobain? Oh shit. Oh no. Maybe Liv Tyler did. Yeah. He took him out. He probably heard his new song. He probably heard his new song. He couldn't handle it anymore. It's my day now. It's my day now. Well, I'll bring us back around here. If young Mike Schulte is now inspired to play music from the Zac attack. I've now started some bands, right? And I'm playing music and I'm developing this indie fever of like creation and wanting to make my band famous and record. I saw a little movie called Air Heads. And there's a band in Air Heads called The Lone Rangers. Oh yeah. Three members of this band, Chas, Rex and Pip. This movie took me to the next level, much like the Wild Stallions thing you were just talking about, Tuck. Like this is what it means to form a band and be willing to do anything that it takes. Because you believe when you write a song, anybody out there that's never been in a band, never written a song, when you write a song and you create something out of nothing, you truthfully believe this is the greatest thing that has ever been done and ever been written. Their song degenerated. Not that great. But like they believe that this band, this power slot band, obviously they don't like to limit themselves to labels or anything like that. But their power slot mostly. They believe that all they got to do is get their song on the radio and they will be instantly catapulted into fame. It's sort of like you two deciding that they're going to put their album onto everybody's Apple Music, their iPhones around the world. If the people could just hear our songs, we're going to be good. But what we don't realize is that like the song's not that great. They definitely shouldn't hold up a record store to make this happen. But Chaz says one thing. He goes, my entire life force is on that tape. He says that as a quote in the movie and that I believe I feel that with everything inside of me. Like this thing means so much to me that we have to get this in the world. And dude, a couple of times, it epitomizes being in a band or being a solo artist or being in a group when he's talking. He's like, you don't know what it's like out there. You don't know what it's like to play a show in front of 20 people made up of the other bands and their girlfriends. Like no one understands that plight like this movie and it puts it into a comedic style. I love the Lone Rangers for their passion more than any other act I've ever seen out there. That we can relate. I promise. Yeah. And easily the most star studded cast in any of the bands we're talking about. The best three people it could possibly fucking be. Dude, there's three the three best people, three of our favorite actors, I think. Like historically through this show right now, Brendan Fraser. Academy Award winner. Academy Award winner, Brendan Fraser. Adam Seller. Steve Buscemi and Adam Sandler. I mean, come on, bro. What an insane like cast to put together and then to have them like form a rock band. And it's true. Like you're right. Like I remember the first time like I was a part of a band and we made a song happen. Like we made a song actually happen. Not like, hey, well, you just play an all jam with you. That kind of shit. But like now it's like you get that moment and you do feel like these guys and they really do sell it really well, especially Brendan Fraser, about how much he really is dedicated to this music. Like I want to buy that. I think that was actually might have been my prop when we talked about our heads. What? What was your problem? His the cassette. Oh, that no, it was a reel to reel, which is the real funnier that they showed up in 1990 something with a reel to reel when they could have done vinyl cassette CDs. They brought a reel to reel to the studio. They didn't even have a player there. She most analog you could ever go. We just wanted you to really feel it. You'll feel the warmth of this. Well, Will, you're up next. What do you got? For my last pick, I'm going to go with a scene and a movie that I honestly, I will say that this one inspired me because I think it changed the world in some way. Man, what? What? I believe that with my soul. Go fuck yourself. If I believe that about Rex Manning, he can have whatever he wants. OK. My last selection is from a movie called Revenge of the Nerds, which everyone knows. And it's this movie, man. Tell me it didn't change the way people think of nerds. Back this movie came out and it was bullying nerds. But now all of our kids think nerds are cool. Yeah, sure. It changed everything. And I think this movie was huge in doing that because of these cast of characters. And in this movie, on the journey it takes you, at the very end, they give you one of the best fucking performances of music I've ever heard in my life. I don't even, I told Tucker, who the fuck did this? You guys need to help me. Who fucking made this song? And who made? I'm going to find out right now. I was like, who, what? Because when they play, it's at the end of the competition, they do some kind of talent show. And the nerds come up and play a fucking song. And it starts out with point dexter fucking cranking. And then you have fucking Booger back there looking like Elvis, bro. And then the two nerds, they're sitting there on the fucking keys. And then you got fucking Lamar as Michael Jackson. I mean, it's unreal. I think they were trying to look like Death Punk. Everybody. And YMCA. Yeah, and Elvis. No, the Village People. And then, yeah, the one dude was on the fucking big drum. The Indian. I was like, Jesus Christ, this is amazing. And the stuff that they did on that little scene was just icon. No one's beating them in a fucking talent show. I'll tell you that. Nobody. No. They could come back and do the exact same thing next year and it will win again. Yeah, 100%. They could they could redo that whole scene right now as a real band somewhere and kids would lose it. You didn't even say the name of the band. Oh, it's Lambda, Lambda, Lambda is their seror fraternity or whatever. I don't even think they don't have a fucking name. They're just the nerds, bro. No. They just rolled out. That was just Lambda, Lambda, Lambda. I don't know if you want to trust this, but apparently it was written and performed by Ollie E. Brown of Ollie and Jerry under the name Revenge. And apparently it was it was tied to a song called They're So Incredible. So I may just be spitting pure lies on online here, but that's what I'm hearing right now. I choose to believe it and put some fucking respect on that guy's name. And it was 1984, I believe. I could be wrong on that date, but I mean, that was pretty damn early to be doing a rap in a movie. You know what I mean? So respect to them for taking those chances back. I feel like they blended a lot of music that doesn't didn't happen in 1984. You know what I mean? So shout out to that movie. That's what I was going to say. Like we were recently just going to cover that movie. And that performance, it kind of comes out of nowhere. They prepare you a little bit for it, but it kind of comes out of nowhere because of how kind of sick it is. Like compared to anything else that happens, obviously, it's pretty everything else that happens is pretty lame compared to that. But they truly do like lay their fucking dick down on the stage and just like, well, that's it. Like one song. It's all you need. And you're right. It encompasses a lot of musical genres. You're totally right. Yeah. And after that, every one of those nerds are fucking most those girls and legends. Legend. Oh, yeah. I mean, they are. I went. They're fine. Lamar can have any dude from the alpha alpha alpha as he wants. You know what I mean? Yeah. Hands down. Changing performance, bro. I like the idea that they were blending genres as much as they were blending everything else, like having the Asian guy dress up as an Indian. They're just going all out with it and Booger Presley Booger Presley on a guitar or whatever. He's and like, but I will tell you when I first saw that movie and you you brought this up, well, like you pulled this out and I was immediately jealous that I did not think of it. Because when I first saw this movie, probably some like late night comedy central or something. And I I actually went to YouTube and would just play that song over and over again. Like over and over again, just because it's the only thing only place you could find it. Yeah. So like, man, that's such a great poll. Something about their choreography to makes me laugh so hard when they were doing the like they'd they'd go up on beat number one and like the balls of their toes. That's like that's primetime choreography. OK, I love this. Dude, that that was so yeah, I'm glad you pointed that out. When I watched it again earlier, I was like, oh, shit, this is serious right here. They practiced. Yeah, it looked good. I know I want to know how they how they got the rehearsal time to do this. And when they're doing all that other stuff they're doing, but then they pulled it off. They must have been playing this for a long time well before they got into this thing. Yeah, absolutely. Inspired by jet engine silences. The Dyson Hush Jet Purify powerfully purifies the entire room quietly, capturing pollen, allergens and pet dander, removing odours and harmful gases such as NO2 day and night. Hush Jet, powerful, compact purification. That's quiet. Is your dog scratching, itching or rubbing? When they're suffering from an itchy skin condition, finding an at-home remedy that brings relief can seem impossible. That's where your vet comes in. They're the only one who can diagnose the cause and offer effective relief to bring your itchy dog a source of comfort. See your vet to find a source of comfort for your itchy dog. Learn more at itchydogcare.co.uk Well, Sean, you're up next. What do you got, man? I'm just going to read you the chorus to one of these songs from my next pick. Here we go. Friends for eternity, loyalty, honesty. We'll stay together through thick and thin. Friends forever, we'll be together. We are on top because we play to win. This is Dragon Sound from Miami Connection. Are you sure that wasn't Zac Attack? Because it sure sounded like Friends Forever by Zac Attack. It totally could have been. Could have been, but this is probably, you could consider it a so bad it's good movie. But I don't consider that. I just think it's a fucking good movie. It's got Kung Fu, sorry, Taekwondo. It's very specific in this. But it's about this group of orphans and they form a band and suddenly their club gets hijacked by gangsters and cocaine dealers and everything. And they're all ninjas, and so they have to fight them as well. This stars and is written by, let me find his name, YK Kim. And I believe, I watched the special features on this because I had to know more about this guy. But he just had a Taekwondo class in, I believe, Florida. And very motivational speaker type guy. And all his students were just so taken by him. And he's written books, he's given seminars, and then he just wanted to make a movie in the 80s. And he's like, well, I'll just cast all of my students, because hell yeah. And he just had them in the movie and had them fight ninjas. And it's really kind of shocking how entertaining this movie is. And it is kind of on the level, obviously, of the room or movies like that. But there's so much heart in it because he is completely serious about it. Like he's completely in it. And like having a good time, and everyone seems like they're having a blast. But this band, this truly catchy music, it really is. One of the guitar players, the band, Angelo Gianotti, he wrote the music for this. It's Friends, what was the chorus that I read? It's called Friends. And then Against the Ninja, who also features Kathy Collier, truly actually catchy songs. Kind of unbelievably, once you hear them you're like, friends forever, until eternity. It's kind of crazy how, and they spend a lot of time filming them playing these songs live. Like they do it several times. And so it's kind of impossible to not get earwormed for these songs. Such a fun movie. I love it so much. You guys ever seen that? Yeah. We watched a lot of shit today. It was great. I was watching clips of a lot of stuff today. And I did make some notes on that one. They all, were they all orphans? I think they were all orphans. That's what he said. Okay, I'm sorry. Oh my gosh. Great synopsis, by the way. And they all live together and they beat up bikers in the nightclub. It's just a hilarious concept. And the music, I was listening to the soundtrack earlier. I believe, I don't know who was in the group text, but somebody was listening to the soundtrack. And I was like, I'm turning this shit on right now. And I turned it on. I was up there doing dishes, listening to the shit, man. It's great. It's good music. It's not bad. And they did a retrospective screening of this and had the dragon sound reunion, pretty much. And the head guy, YK Kim, when they show him in the movie, he's got a fender Stratocaster and it's not plugged in. Of course, he's just up there. And the reunion, he's up there as well and it's not plugged in. It's fantastic. There's just so much heart to it and you can't help but be charmed by it. It's just really fun. Well, Tuck, you are up. What do you got for your last choice? Okay. So this one, you know, I can identify with this one more than any of the other ones just because when I started out doing music, you know, I was straight hip hop. Like I wanted to make hip hop music. I was heavily inspired by hip hop music. It wasn't until later in that journey that I started adding the live band instruments, started getting more interested in that stuff. But for about four solid years, I'd say, you know, 1994, you know, I was inspired by all the West Coast rap coming out at the time, all the gangster rap, you know, and believe it or not, my little dumbass, you know, weighed 90 pounds wet, tried to make some hip, like some hardcore rap music. All right, guys. So it's pretty embarrassing, but I'm admitting it. So, you know, I can identify with my next movie is DJ from Hustle and Flow. Okay. DJ, he's the hip hop artist from Hustle and Flow. And, you know, there's just a lot of similarities to the environment that I was in at the time to how DJ eventually got on his feet in the hip hop game, if you will, you know, I'm going to start with his studio. You know, I've been in, I've been in a lot of studios just like that before I ever stepped foot into a real one, you know, from the drink carriers, you get it like McDonald's or something, you know, stapled onto the wall to the keyboard, being a keyboard that had speakers on it. And like any, like, you know, real musician will know your keyboard doesn't have speakers on it. You got to plug that bitch in, you know what I'm saying? This was like a hundred, yeah, this was like a 50, you know, not a $60 keyboard, you know, is what they're using. I've been that guy, you know, and I also, you know, it reminds me of when I was 14, there's a local music equipment rental shop here called the Dewop shop here in Louisville, Kentucky. You know, I caught the city bus, I saved up my money, I caught the city bus, I went to this store and rented a drum machine for one week for $14. And I remember it and I took it to my attic. I took it to the attic of my mom's house, plugged it in and literally started hitting these pads and I'm like, oh my God, like here it is. I'm about to make it. I'm about to make music. Like I am, I am now a hip hop artist that knows how to record music, you know, and so I just identified with a lot of shit that, that, you know, DJ was going through because he was literally untapped talent. You know, he's just like, man, I think I got this talent just if it could get out there, you know, and what he had that's different from everyone else or what's 50% of the music game in my opinion is drive and determination because you're going to hear no after no after no before you hear that. Yes. That's exactly what he did. He just was like, you know what, fuck it. You're going to tell me no, I'm going to go into the next one. Let's see what happens. So yeah, that, that to me, it made me wonder though, how many other amazing musicians are out there in this world that are just lazy? You know what I mean? They're just lazy. They don't have that, that other thing to keep them going. And you know, it's a building process. It takes time. So he was willing to do the work. But anyway, so I went off on that tangent. I have more notes. No, I'm inspired. Keep going. You got me fired up. Cool. But DJ was a Memphis hustler, right? Trying to survive the day to day. He was in his mid thirties. Feeling like that time was running out. He had no industry connections, no money, no roadmap to, you know, how this was done. He was just like, we're going to figure it out. I got my little team, you know, and his team is another thing. His team is, you know, everybody that starts out has to have this team. And Will, me and you are very similar, you know, in that regard. Like, Will was, you know, a huge motivation for me when I was doing music. I was the first one that told you to believe. Yeah. Street team, you know, you need to do this. He's calling people making shit happen on our behalf. That type of shit. And that's what DJ had. He had, he had the engineer, which who is probably, you know, an inspiring musician himself, he just maybe understood he didn't have the actual talent to do so. So he poured himself into the technical end of the music. You know what I mean? So you got to have that guy. And of course you got to have the skinny white dude that can play them keys that knows how to turn that key on the beat machine too. Screech powers from say by the bell, same dude. Exactly the same guy. And he can slap some key. He can slap some pads on that drum machine. And yeah. For me, that was the most relatable part was his studio, his group of people that he had around him that were pushing him. And you have to have some hookers. Oh yeah. And the hookers, you know, minus the hookers. We didn't have the hookers. But oh, and then yeah, always studio rats hanging around. That was the hookers. I had that over there. And there'd always be your friends. That was a street team. That was a street team. Yeah, that was his street team. And they went to, they went to, well, you never took it to that level. I kept it profession. Yeah. Because without without his hookers, I can't remember her name in the movie. It's too fucking big actresses, bro. Not the one that plays sugar, the one that sings hard out here for a pimp. But the other orange is new black chick. Oh yeah. Manning. Yeah. Manning. Manning. I forgot what her character is the one that actually gets all the real work done. She gets him a microphone from the pawn shop. She goes in there and does what she has to do to get him a mic at the pawn shop. She goes to the radio station, which was the real break because, you know, we just talked about that earlier. You get your song on the radio. Well, you made it. You know, you made it. That's how he felt and it ended up working out for him. But my favorite scene, y'all, my favorite scene is the hard out here for a pimp scene where Shug sings the chorus to it's hard out here for a pimp. When she hears that back for the first time, when you the camera work her emotion on her face, it just it's a huge moment. She realizes oh, and she's a pregnant prostitute, by the way. She realizes hearing that back for the first time that she is something else. She's not just a pregnant prostitute and her emotion, the camera work. Dude, it's if you watch that, if you just really focus on it, like it. I'm not going to say I choked up or anything, but I felt something. Felt something. I felt something in my chest. It made me a little bit emotional seeing that reaction, thinking about it like, here's this pregnant prostitute. She hears herself on this record and she's like, holy shit, I have more to offer this world. You know? So yeah, man, I mean, especially like if you're in a studio or like any like making a movie, I'm sure like you're on set, you shoot something and you're just like, okay, I don't know if that was good, man, but like I think we got it. And then when you get into editing, you put everything together like, holy shit, it's not it's not bad. It's pretty good. Yeah. Kind of the same thing where you're just like, you know, you sing or speak into a microphone, you're like, I don't know if any of that was usable. And then you get you hear it played back or like you listen to it in a car speaker, you're like, fuck. All right, that's actually not too bad. But yeah, that's a great way to put it. Yeah, it reminds me of the first time you hear your, when you talk into a microphone and you even just hear yourself back through a PA and you're like, oh my God, is that what I sound like? But then eventually like, you know, I played guitar mostly or whatever. But when I figured out something to play on guitar and then like I wrote a song or I made a song with somebody, you're right. You're just like, wow, I did a thing, man. You know, and it's funny how like a lot of our conversations are coming around in this kind of this kind of vein of like real your realization of that you count exactly what you just said, like all these guys, well, except for ex manning really have a lot more to offer, you know, people than just like what they thought it's and that's that's such a good sentiment, man. And I do have some more notes. Yeah. Another epic scene is when he goes to the bathroom and Ludacris, his character had like overdosed or something and was in there passed out and he had recently giving Ludacris his demo tape and he saw it in the toilet while Ludacris was passed out. And I think every, you know, a musician can identify with that feeling of trying to get your music to somebody. And then if you were to see them throw it away or to see it in the toilet, how that would make you feel. Well DJ proceeds to stomp Ludacris out on the ground in a bad way. And I'm not saying I agree with that. But you felt it. But I'm saying I understand. You know what I mean? I get it. My last note here guys, my last note. Terrence Howard actually was a pretty good rapper in the movie. And before the movie, he actually had never rapped at all. So he had to study, which, you know, all great actors do. They all have these stories of, you know, camping out somewhere, Johnny Depp with Hunter S. Thompson for however long, all that shit, right? Well, I think he has everyone beat. I think Terrence Howard has everyone beat. Not only did he have a ton of help from Three Six Mafias DJ Paul, which to me, that's pretty fucking cool. But I found another incredible note guys, and I just have to read it straight from the internet. And I did multiple searches to make sure that this wasn't some like AI slop or something or some bad information that was on the internet. And I'm getting the same shit from multiple sources. So listen to this, I'm going to end on this. I said, I asked the internet how Terrence Howard played his part so well. How did he rap so well internet? How did he become this pimp so well internet? And this is what I got. Full blown immersion into Memphis. All right. To prepare for the role, Howard spent two and a half years interviewing 123 pimps and 78 prostitutes, including living with four different pimps and spending a month in a Memphis brothel. Hey, there you go. Wow. Just Daniel Day Lewising the whole thing for us, man. I love it. We're all dog and life. My goodness. Yeah, dude. I feel like there's got to be something behind that of like eventually like two and a half years of doing that. Eventually he kind of forgot he was just supposed to be researching stuff. Like Tony Bratsko? You know? Yeah, exactly. He did. He probably liked it at one point or another. You're right. I think that song, Hard Out Here for a Pimp, I think 36 Mafia won the best song for that movie. Pretty sick to see them take the stage and grab an Oscar. It is awesome. Well, that's a great choice. AJ, you're closing us out. What is the final act that you have chosen? All right. You got to go big. I got to go big. And what's bigger than the glam and the hair of 80s metal, right? You can make fun of it as much as you want, but I really like get jazzed every time I hear them play these songs. And it's Steel Dragon from the movie Rockstar. And Steel Dragon, like we've talked about Rockstar previously. Fuck yeah. But the whole movie is based on this, it was Tim Ripper Owens who replaced Rob Halford in Judas Priest after being in a tribute band. Then they made this story with Mark Wahlberg of being in this tribute band with Timothy Oliphant and some other guys. And I almost picked their band, which I think it's called Blood Pollution. Is their tribute band name? We're not a cover band. We're a tribute band. OK? It's just like, no dude, you're copying them to a tee and they want to play these songs and he goes and he does that audition for Steel Dragon and he sings that song. And the lyrics are cheesy as hell. It's like, it's like, let the river flow through my callous hands. And you're just like, it's like, but at the same time, just like, yeah, yeah, let it let it flow through my hands. Dang it. Like, yeah. And you just feel like inspired for a minute of watching this happen and like hearing the guitars and then you realize, you know what? We talked about a lot of musicians who are not playing. All these guys are fucking playing their music, man. Was Zach Wild was one of them? You have. Yeah. You have an entire band of like legit musicians. That's Zach Wild from Ozzy Osbourne and Black Label Society. Jeff Pilsen was on base from Dawkin and Jason Bonham, who is John Bonham's son from Led Zeppelin. Played for Foreigner a little bit. Played for Foreigner. I mean, they're all great musicians, you know, metal musicians like living that life for the most part and like watching a lot of those songs and the production. I love like the the speed cameras that you get of like them building the sets and stuff in preparation for their shows. And and then you get those moments too behind the stage where he's like really nervous. And I can remember like a million times before I was going to play a show and you've got to go. And it's like all of a sudden I got a P and it's like, nope, you're going to have to just use that for now. And you just go and do it. I mean, it's like it's really, really cool because you see it happen very quickly. This guy's rise to stardom and then how you just really realize it's like the first inkling of music. The money in the fame isn't what's going to make you happy in the end, you know. But I don't know. There's also something to be said about the guys who decided to keep going on and playing, even though he left again. So I don't know, man, Steel Dragon is made some of like some amazing 80s music and they made and they were real musicians and Rockstar, I think, is a pretty damn underrated It's not bad. It's like I'm just saying kind of kind of compared to Terrence Howard and his his research that he did. We'll call it. Yeah. It's not to that level whatsoever. But Mark Wahlberg did go like on the streets of Hollywood or whatever. He grew his hair out for real and he walked the streets of Hollywood and like his leather jacket. Definitely not to the level of Terrence Howard. But no, but to the level of method acting as Mark Wahlberg can get, I guess. I guess we get this. It's kind of a poetic way to end this whole thing because we're talking about a lot of these groups that's like, follow your dreams. Like just keep going. And then like sometimes like you do follow your dreams. You're like, yeah, I don't I don't really want to do that anymore. I should I should stop doing that. So it's not always perfect. Yeah, I keep in going. It's the worst thing you can do. I actually had one note for that. And it's funny that you said, yeah, Dawkins, who was it, the guitar player from Dawkins? Jeff Pilsen, he was the bass player. The bass player. Well, the one note that I had says Major Sebastian Bach meets Dawkins vibes. So that's funny. I had no idea. I had no idea he was involved. Exactly. Dude, I think like that band is one of the only picks out of anyone that has picked anything that is it could actually have been real. Yeah, I mean, yeah, like you're saying that band was so like us all real musicians. And fuck, who says Mark Wahlberg could be a lead singer of something, you know what I mean? Like who is better steel dragon or dragon sound? Oh, and notice the dragon dragon. Dragons the most cool 80s thing ever. Who's better? Absolutely. Yeah, if you're going to do an 80s thing, it better include dragon. Okay, bro. I just think like some of those songs, I I've I'm going to go and listen to those songs now after this in my car for whatever reason. Turn the volume up and I'm going to crank it up, man. I'm going to be driving a Kia tell you ride just blasted steel dragon. Wait, do you have a key? It's a rental rental right here. Let's go, dude. I'm kind of digging it. All right, I'm saying, hey, if you lock it in at the speed limit, it'll drive itself. Just I don't know if you know, dude, it does. I was like, I was like, man, it reminded me to like, hey, you still got a steer, bro. I was like, OK, OK, I sledge it all the time. I literally push it to the limits. I'll be going through like the the the mountains down here in Kentucky and Tennessee. I'll turn it on. I mean, you got 90 degree and it'll it'll do it. Hands off. My wife is yelling at me. Stop. Now, baby. Love it. Well, there you have it. I mean, it's like a perfect blend of of nostalgia and movies and music, which only super retro and confused breakfast could bring you. I mean, it's it's really the only two people, two groups that could have made this happen. I'm just saying for sure. We agree. And we definitely got to do this again, guys, because now we kind of, you know, broke the ice here. We kind of we know how it's going to work now. Man, we can we can add this into the rotation, you know. All you guys, I mean, more so than me, like I like how music was such an inspiration for everyone here. Like on a personal level, like, you know, besides the nostalgia and podcast and in all the stuff we do, like you guys are all musicians. And I was a manager of a band. I think it's really cool how like that's some passion that all of us have. Sure. Yeah. I mean, music and movies, music, movies, TV, it's all such a like an intertwined thing. I think for a lot of people where, you know, like a movie won't be what it is without the soundtrack coming up underneath it. And it's just I think we all naturally gravitate towards all of this, you know. I it's I that's why we've got along from the start is because we're we've all played music, we love music, and it's clear. The same for you guys. That's why that's why you guys kind of hooked up. Yeah. And talk had a good decade of trying to make a getting record deals. So like that was our thing was music. And then once it didn't, once the record deals went away, we were just like, fuck, you want to do a podcast? Yeah. Like, I remember I texted him that like, dude, we should do a podcast. Yeah. He was all over me about it. I was like, I'm not doing a podcast. Hell, no, I got more beats to make. But I'm glad I didn't turn. Turns out you can use some of the equipment to just make a podcast. Like, well, I guess we got the stuff. We might as well give it a shot. And a roadcaster is basically a drum machine. It's just got all the buttons. Exactly. I say it all the time. I'm like, you know, people are like, how, how, how'd you guys do that? Why does your stuff look and sound, you know, pretty good? I'm like, well, spent 20 years doing it, doing the audio stuff. So I'm pretty sure I figured out how to, how to make it work over on this side. You know, that was my idea. I was like, Tuck, Tuck was a producer. Like, oh, yeah, he's cool. Let's do it. Very rare. The producer is cool as well. Good and cool. Right, Logan. Sorry, we just got flicked off. Well, yeah, I agree. I think we should we should standard rotation this. In fact, we should meet like whatever halfway is between us. It'll be like some sleazy motel in like Illinois. Like that's where we just rent it out for a weekend and just set up a studio. Let's go. That'd be awesome. Yeah, we'll do a road trip for sure. I'm down. I really would love to dive into any of like some some of the video game stuff that you guys have been doing and whatnot and like riff on some of that. I mean, there's so much stuff that we like that peripheral stuff from the movies and whatnot that I mean, I would just love to get get into your guys's world a little bit too. Come on. Yeah, can't wait. Let's go. Whoops, like we're best friends. Whoops. Oh, best friends. Two cool guys want to hang out with us. Oh, no, it sucks because like the the the disconnection of obviously doing this over the Internet. Yes. I could just the budding kind of nature of like they were right here. I'd be like, oh, that was sick. Like I just want to reach over and like touch them. Yes. And I can't do that. Yeah. And, you know, you do you try to you try your best to kind of like, you know, give people the space. You don't want to you don't want to just be jumping over. I can't stop myself sometimes, guys. So what? But you know what? It's just because I'm I'm all excited and stuff. And I'm all excited and stuff. So much so much fun. I'm all excited and stuff or. It's yeah, conversations like this were never intended to be through a fucking TV screen. Eight hours away from each other. But you know what? That's the beauty of technology. That's the beauty of Logan and upload media group, you know, making things like this happen. Yeah. And we already made plans off air to basically meet in like a sleazy super eight in Champaign, Illinois, which is about our halfway point. And, you know, maybe just get some hard drugs, get a get a conference room and just the conference room. That's the janitor's closet probably. Which might look. We're basically going to bring we're basically going to bring the movie Cedar Rapids to them. Yeah. And in the middle of we're going to meet in the middle in a town in the middle. Yeah. Yeah. So I think that's what we're going to do. It's going to be fun. Well, like we said, check them out. And we got some good stuff coming up. Clueless coming up this week. Clueless. Like what do you what more do you want from us? We got die with the vengeance next die hard with a vengeance. Can't wait. Somebody decided we're going to skip number two and go to number three. Because it doesn't matter. With the vengeance is so fucking sick. Spoiler alert. That'd be like us going straight to like return of the king. Yeah. Two towers like doing aliens first before aliens. That's a little different. That actually does not compare to what I'm saying. You know, a little bit. Look, I get that it's a series and stuff, but it's different. OK, OK, OK. You. Shit. Well, we'll catch you next time. Goodbye, friends. It's way day wayfair from April 25th through the 27th. You can score the best deals for in and around your home, guys, like up to 80 percent off with free shipping on everything. 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