The Rewatchables

‘The Nice Guys’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Rob Mahoney

90 min
Mar 24, 20262 months ago
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Summary

Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Rob Mahoney discuss Shane Black's 2016 buddy cop comedy 'The Nice Guys,' analyzing Ryan Gosling and Russell Crowe's performances, the film's 1970s LA setting, and why it became a beloved cult classic despite underperforming at the box office against 'Angry Birds.' The hosts debate the film's rewatchability, examine its convoluted plot, and discuss why action comedies have largely disappeared from modern cinema.

Insights
  • Ryan Gosling's willingness to embarrass himself and play comedic roles—rather than lean on his star power—distinguishes him from peers and makes him a generational talent in comedy-driven films
  • Shane Black's formula of buddy dynamics, witty dialogue, and period-specific aesthetics (particularly 1970s settings) creates inherently rewatchable films that improve with multiple viewings
  • R-rated action comedies have virtually disappeared from theatrical releases, migrating to streaming platforms, representing a significant shift in how studios greenlight and distribute genre films
  • The film's success as a cult classic demonstrates that box office performance and critical/audience appreciation are decoupled; films can fail commercially but achieve lasting cultural resonance
  • Period pieces set in the 1970s benefit from reduced regulatory constraints and cultural attitudes that enable more permissive storytelling than contemporary settings allow
Trends
Decline of theatrical R-rated comedies in favor of streaming platforms and prestige TVResurgence of 1970s aesthetics and settings in contemporary filmmaking as a narrative deviceActor career strategy shift toward genre diversity and comedic risk-taking over star-vehicle protectionCult classic formation accelerated by cable and streaming availability rather than theatrical runsBuddy cop/action comedy subgenre consolidation around a handful of successful franchisesStreaming services acquiring theatrical film libraries (Amazon Prime acquiring Warner Bros. content)Autonomous vehicle integration into urban comedy narratives reflecting real-world tech adoptionNostalgia-driven filmmaking targeting audiences who grew up with 1970s-80s television and filmCorporate conspiracy narratives as comedic backdrop rather than serious thriller deviceCharacter-driven ensemble casts outperforming star-vehicle franchises in audience retention
Topics
Shane Black's screenwriting formula and directorial styleRyan Gosling's comedic performance range and career trajectoryRussell Crowe's career resurgence and character work1970s Los Angeles as narrative setting and cultural touchstoneBuddy cop comedy subgenre evolution and declineBox office performance vs. cult classic statusR-rated comedy theatrical release trendsPeriod piece filmmaking and production designCharacter embarrassment and physical comedyStreaming platform impact on film distributionCorporate conspiracy narratives in comedyChild actor performances in supporting rolesDialogue-driven comedy vs. visual gagsSequel potential and franchise developmentAutonomous vehicle comedy integration
Companies
Warner Bros.
Produced and distributed 'The Nice Guys'; recently acquired by Amazon Prime per episode discussion
Netflix
Discussed as platform where 'The Nice Guys' had significant streaming run; hosts debated whether LA Confidential was ...
The Ringer
Podcast network hosting 'The Rewatchables' and other shows mentioned; Rob Mahoney hosts 'Ringer MBA' show
Amazon Prime
Confirmed to have 'LA Confidential' available; recently acquired Warner Bros. content per episode
Marvel Cinematic Universe
Referenced in context of Shane Black's role in developing Iron Man 3 and Robert Downey Jr.'s career trajectory
New Beverly Cinema
Los Angeles theater showing classic and experimental films including noir and adult films at midnight screenings
People
Bill Simmons
Primary host of The Rewatchables podcast discussing film analysis and industry trends
Chris Ryan
Co-host analyzing 'The Nice Guys' and contributing film criticism; subject of 'CR Month' celebration
Rob Mahoney
Co-host of episode; hosts 'Ringer MBA' show; provides film analysis and basketball analogies
Ryan Gosling
Lead actor in 'The Nice Guys'; extensively discussed for comedic performance and career range
Russell Crowe
Co-lead in 'The Nice Guys'; discussed for career resurgence and character work; mentioned wanting sequel
Shane Black
Director and co-writer of 'The Nice Guys'; extensively analyzed for screenwriting formula and influence
Margaret Qualley
Plays Amelia in 'The Nice Guys'; discussed as young talent who became major star post-film
Keith David
Supporting cast member in 'The Nice Guys'; noted for consistent career presence
Kim Basinger
Supporting cast in 'The Nice Guys'; discussed as weak link in film; hosts debated recasting options
Robert Downey Jr.
Uncredited cameo as dead body in 'The Nice Guys'; discussed in context of Shane Black's MCU influence
Roger Ebert
Discussed hypothetically regarding what rating he would give 'The Nice Guys'; hosts debated his taste
Tom Hanks
Discussed as potential casting option for 'The Nice Guys' lead role in recast segment
David Ellison
Owns Warner Bros.; discussed as potential greenlight for 'Nice Guys' sequel given his taste in edgy content
Quotes
"Gosling does not care. He's willing to go for whatever."
Rob MahoneyMid-episode discussion on Gosling's comedic willingness
"This is the closest thing we've got to Midnight Run this century. It is Midnight Run, but somehow sleazier."
Bill SimmonsEarly analysis of film's genre positioning
"Sometimes you just win."
Ryan Gosling character (quoted by hosts)Recurring theme throughout episode
"Fuck Angry Birds."
Craig (implied from context)Final segment discussing box office competition
"The action comedy is the thing that most people love that is the hardest to make."
Chris RyanGenre analysis segment
Full Transcript
The rewatchables is brought to you by the Ringer Podcast Network, where you can find the Ringer MBA show with Rob Mahoney. Group chat. Sure can. And the Prestige TV podcast. It's all happening. And the rewatchables. What a week for you. And you are on my podcast. That's a lot. Yeah, you're on a lot. Do I get the rest of the week off? Do I get the rest of the week off? What's happening? Try not to overexpose you. Chris, Ryan, we're still in CR Month. We are. Rob said on my podcast this week that every month is CR Month. That seems to be the consensus now. That's really nice of people to say. I don't know whether that means I've outworn my welcome or what. Just for those of us who choose to celebrate. Yeah, exactly. It's how do you choose to recognize CR Month? Completely. Well, we're 60% through CR Month. Almost done. It'll be 80% after this one. We did a vote, put 12 movies up, 4 vote. You thought Goonies was going to win. Well, I sometimes think that we skew a little bit older in our demo, but apparently the young people, it's like when they voted, we voted for Obama in 08. We took it back. Who's the we here? I voted for Obama. I'm not a French set. Craig's excited because it's opening up a whole bunch of last 15-year movies when these movies do well from 2010 to 25. All the voters were just bots that I made on that. I'm happy for it. The nice guy says next. This episode of the rewatchables is presented by TikTok. The online world moves fast. That's why TikTok approaches teen safety with families in mind. From the start on TikTok, teens get over 50 built-in protections right when they join. Their accounts start private by default for those under 16 direct messages are turned off. Only friends can comment on their videos. When safety comes first, discovery can follow. Learn more at tiktok.com slash guardians guide. Nice guys. Technically the 10-year anniversary of this movie came out in 2016. One of those, I wrote down destined to become a beloved cult movie, but tried to be a hit movie. But then it wasn't a hit movie. And then it became exactly what it was supposed to be, which was a beloved cult movie. It happened almost immediately. It was in the last vestiges of when people would go to cable and still watch stuff on cable, but the streamers were coming. And you know that this movie is popular because it's on all the time, on cable channels. It's always on one of the big streamers. It's just here and it feels like it's here to stay here. It's got everything you want from a movie. Usually when we do rewatchables, especially over the last couple of months, I've noticed a lot of the things that I tend to highlight are sequences, filmmaking, moments from the movie. It's all lines. This is a great dialogue movie. This is a great memorable lines movie. It features my favorite Ryan Gosling performance, and he's in the news obviously because Project Hail Mary is coming out this weekend, I guess, when we're recording. So it'll be past weekend when you hear this. And yeah, this is just a, do you really need to know the plot of this movie? You just turn it on and hang out with it. That's the closest thing we've got to midnight run this century. It is midnight run, but somehow sleazier. I guess we get even grimey or even weirder. You're right up at the lines, but I feel like this is, it's a perfect rewatchable because if you are locked in, the physical comedy is so funny. But if you're second screening, the line deliveries are so great. And if you're just walking around doing chores, you're going to be like cackling from the next room because some of the stuff is so big, you can just hear it and react to it. Yeah, it's a chemistry. It's weird they've only made one, but I guess they move it in too well enough to bring back. Such a shame. But yeah, I have a list of movies that went backwards to the 1970s because I think that's part of the secret sauce. Boogie Nights, almost famous. Casino, Goodfellas, The Conjuring, Rush, Zodiac, Anchorman, Ice Storm, Nice Guys, Days to Confuse, Argo and American Gangster. So that is just 13. We've, I think we've done all of those on rewatchables now, except for Rush, which is on the list. Why is it so fun to go back to the 70s? What is it? The cars are cool. It's fun to smoke. Ladies looked great. Ladies looked great. They really looked the best back then. But what else do you need? You know, it's like everybody was kind of like this fucking government is screwing us over. But like, what can we do about it? Let's get drunk. Yeah, let's have some cigarettes. It's OK. You can drive home. You're fine. The burgeoning porn industry. I mean, what else do you want? I mean, this movie is so cool for exactly those reasons, even though like everyone in it is aggressively uncool. Like it shouldn't be, but because of the era, because of the stylings, because of the cars, like it just kind of works in that way. Craig, I was there for the 70s, so I vaguely remember some of it. You missed it by a couple of decades. When you go back in the 70s, what is it for you? The giant lapels, the brown suits. Party's just seeming really fun. No phones. Everyone's topless. Guys and girls. It's topless mermaids and parties. I mean, come on. Yeah, we really had it all figured out back then. I'm trying to think. What are movies that failed that went back to the 70s? I'm sure there's been a couple and we blocked them out of our minds, but it's a great question. There have been ones where we go back and it just didn't work and we're like, why are we doing this? Because maybe like semi pro. Yeah, didn't totally work. Yeah, but even that one, I kind of enjoy the funny thing is like with a movie like semi pro, which I actually like there's a couple of really amazing scenes in that. Yeah. It's like they can't get out of their own contemporary heads enough. You know, it's like you're always aware that you were watching Will Ferrell pretend to be an ABA basketball player. Yeah. Whereas like this, like this just feels like an episode of the Rockford files, man. Like with all like with more profanity and more nudity and better jokes. Pluto's really brought back this decade. They have, I think they might even have a 70s channel, but you can just dive in a love boat, fantasy island, Rockford files, Vegas. And it really was kind of like this. Yeah. Especially like you watched like the Charlie's Angels where everything was resolved in an hour and you would just have these skivvy guys like the Russell Crowe character. You'd have good looking women trying to navigate like this like inherently crazy sexist world. Everybody's drinking and just people have nice cars and they're just driving around LA. There's never traffic. Yeah. It just seems like the greatest place. The big crisis in this movie is smog. Yeah. And meanwhile there's no traffic. They're just zooming down sunset happily, popping around different parties. They also had the gas crisis. So maybe some people were staying off the road. When you were growing up and you're watching these 70 shows, but have no context of any part of LA. And you don't know where LA begins and ends in your mind. You think the beach is next to Sunset Boulevard and all this stuff, but I was, that was the LA I fell in love with. It was one of the reasons I want to move here. I still remember the first time I came here, I did one of those like, this is how LA is supposed to work days, right? So I went to the beach, then I drove to Silver Lake and then went to a hockey game. And it was like one of the worst days of my life because I spent five hours in bumper to bumper traffic trying to do that. And so it was, it really, you know, it wiped away any preconceived notions I had about how easy it would be to get around here. So how do we go back other than a smog crisis and less traffic? Massive corporate conspiracy. Like how do we get it back? It feels like we can rebuild it. When you moved here, what was different about LA than you expected? I think it's as advertised. Like it's as miserable going across town as everyone tells you that it is. I am exactly in the size of bubble that everyone warned me I would be. As long as you're like aware of what's happening, I think it's fine. Yeah. Every once in a while, I'll have an LA experience. I just have one driving over where I'm like, I wish I could have Jack and Holland in the car with me to kind of like, because I was just behind a Waymo that refused to take the left turn. You know, it was just like, well, there still could be traffic coming in. I'm like, well, we're just going to sit here behind this fucking robot car. Disaster. For half an hour. This is insane. And I was just like, I wish those guys were in the back seat. Just like shooting at the car. One liners. Yeah. This has been my most LA experience is learn. I'm not an aggressive driver by type. The city brings it out of you, but learning that you can bully every robot car on the road. Oh yeah. Has been a very formative experience for me. Until they turn back the time. True. I'm going to get my licks in in the meantime. Yeah. I've been doing a new thing when I'm walking around and I see the Waymo coming. I just kind of go on the street a little bit because it spasses out. Yeah. And it's just like, yeah. Who's in charge now Waymo? Somewhere there's a Reddit thread was like, I was in a Waymo and fucking those students kept taunting my car. Ryan Gosling. We talked about the concept of Oscars, MVPs. We're like, who owned the year? Did we talk about that the last rewatchables? We talked about that being a new category that we may need to introduce because there are certain years where like Spielberg. Actor, director. Gosling does this in La La Land. And I, you know, this, this movie didn't do like fantastic or anything, but two really distinct performances, really fun. He's one of the first people you think about. Yeah. Anything about this year? He would have been, I think been nominated for MVP. It would have been his, uh, try to think about basketball. It's his Kate Cunningham year. Like please throw me in the mix for your podcast conversations. Does that make pro-deal endurance? Yeah. Yeah. But I was thinking about years where you could watch a terrific actor do completely different things in two movies in the same year. Yeah. And I was trying to find all the times that this happened. The funniest example that, that just like stood out was Ed Norton, who's in Rounders as Worm in American History X. In the same year with like iconic performances, right? Yes. He's Worm and then he's the American History X guy. Hanks was Philadelphia and sleepless in Seattle in 1993. Pretty distinct. And then Leo did Departed and Blood Diamond. Same year. Those weren't that different. Well, one, he's got the accent. I mean, that is true. Denny. Denny. Denny. Denny. The accents are quite different. Denny. Denny. Denny. Denny. Denny. Denny. Denny. Denny. Denny. Denny. Poitier, people like that. Cruz had a couple two movie combos, but he's always Cruz, but it's like McGuire and Mission One, Top Gun and Color Money, Cocktail and Rain Man. But you wouldn't say like Cruz became two different people. Gosseling in this movie compared to La La Land feels like two different people. Dramatically. Yes, but this is my favorite era for him. It's after his like angry young man opening of like Half Nelson and Drive and some of that stuff. This is like one of the best runs for me in the recent memory of an actor showing their taste. He's working with great directors. He kind of stops at what like First Man or Blade Runner 2049 and takes a few years off and then comes back to this era that we're now which is like Fall Guy, Barbie, Project Hail Mary and it's kind of a little bit more happy go lucky here for a good time, not a long time kind of like vibes. Whereas like this is really like complicated or charming, really, really like well tailored to his skill set. And the thing about him that I think is really lost on some of our big young stars now is he's fucking funny. He is so funny and he's funny in La La Land. I mean, he's maybe not funny in Blade Runner, but he is able to do comedy. Solaris and Drive. He's hysterical. Yeah. But in him being a comedic actor, like I think this movie launches him in a totally different way. I would bet every dollar in my pocket, Ken does not happen without this movie. Like this is him going full buffoon in a way that you need to sell that pitch of, oh, he can be this guy and not just like a smarmy kind of something like wisecracking comedian, but someone who's like the butt of every joke in this movie. Well, so you can be funny by how you deliver lines, but then you can be funny by not doing anything. Which is a much harder level of funny. And he has moments in this movie where he's funny and he's not saying lines. He's funny when he's just throwing cigarettes in his pool. Right. Cause like when he's, we talked about in the rewatchables mail bag that's coming on Thursday. Oh, it probably already happened by the time people heard this. Yeah, by the time people heard this. We talked about how good of an SNL host he is. And I think the best SNL sketch he had was when he was like those beevis and butt head guys in the audience. That's so good. Yeah. And it was just all facial expressions, but he does that a couple of times in this movie. And, you know, I can't wait to see who we thought won the movie when we do at the end. I, he's obviously in the running, but I kind of feel like he needed this for the IMDB. He's like one of these, like what we talked about with crazy stupid love, same thing where it's like, I can be like handsome romcom guy. I can be like really funny detective guy. I can be mysterious drive guy. I can be La La Land guy. I can be Neil Armstrong. Yeah. He's got a lot of, a lot of pitches, which I think separates him. He's got a ton of humility because there are other actors who would do this and have three characters in the movie make reference to how handsome he is. Or like, why are you so talented? You're throwing everything away. This guy's just a loser and the only person who really sees him and as anything else is his daughter. And it's, the movie works because of that. If it was like, oh, he's so hot. He's so funny. It's like, no, everybody thinks this guy is basically a functioning alcoholic who happens at the end to become a great detective or like to rediscover his detective skills. And he has to suck. Like he has to be that kind of low life to the point that like maybe the best moment of this movie is him with his pants down in a bathroom stall, like trying to kick the door open and hold it. And it's like the physical beats of that are really hard to pull off, but you're right. It requires you to be willing to embarrass yourself in a kind of way. Yeah, it's hard to like be like, hey, you're the big, one of the biggest stars in the world. We want you to take a dump, drop a cigarette in your lap and then get intimidated by Russell Crowe not holding a gun on you. We talked about this when we did some Warren Beatty podcast last year on rewatchables and we did Redford Month and we talked about the concept of stardom and what stars were willing and unwilling to do. And William Goldman was telling that story about Warren Beatty turning down misery because the guy was crippled in bed and he's like, I don't want to play a loser. And that was like a recurring theme with some of those guys. I don't want to be a loser. I get to be the hero. I want to be the guy. I don't want to be vulnerable. Gosling does not care. He's willing to go for whatever. You know what loves Gosling? Craig. It's like your number one guy. Definitely, of this generation, yes. Because the comedy thing is the biggest risk of any genre I think you can take. If you do a really weird dramatic role, there's prestige in that. All the other young great actors right now, Shalemaine, Jacob Elordi and whoever you want to say, none of them are really taking a risk with comedy. Elordi can take a risk with Frankenstein and be in the makeup and do all that stuff and it's like a pivot. But the specific curve ball of comedy is risky now and nobody does it and Gosling, to your point, and even when he's on SNL, he's okay making himself look stupid. That's like half the fun of it. And I think Gosling is having the most fun in this movie. And you can even tell how much Gosling loves this movie. To this day, he still does press up. When he's doing press for other stuff, like Project Hail Mary, he keeps talking about how Angry Birds, the movie, is the reason why the nice guys flopped because they came out the same weekend. He's like, fucking Angry Birds. Man, those birds were just so angry. So wait, what's your... He knows this movie's good. What's your history with this movie? Late, late coming to it. Okay. Saw it at VOD probably after it came out and then it was a slow burn. Just because it was on a lot and it has a couple of really good set pieces that you get sucked in. This had a crazy Netflix run, right? I mean, I would see this movie in theaters, did you? Yes, but this would be right around when I was... I also love Shane Black. So like I have a lot of affinity for, Lethal Weapon and Longest Good Night and Last Action were like the other ones that he did in the 80s and the early 90s. So yeah. Last Boy Scout. Last Boy Scout. And this is like as Shane Black as Shane Black gets, honestly, like purely distilled. I think especially it's so cynical. And I think there's this kind of like discrepancy in the movie of like, what's the right move versus what's the smart move? Yes. And they're making the smart move the whole time, which is basically to be as crooked as everyone else and like pull over one on old ladies and beat people up whenever you need. And that like idea that we're all cynical, we're all exploiting people. But then sometimes it's like, you get to the bottom of the barrel. It's like, I kind of just want to do the one right thing. Yes. And Shane Black is so good at that. Yeah. I think this movie is like a second or third watch because the plot is so convoluted. Oh yeah. It's hard to follow the first time you're watching. It's a lot. Like what's going on? There's a tape and that audio show. It starts out confusing. And we will get to it probably in the, in their categories, but like it's unclear if you're just watching the first time you're like, wait, so he's following Amelia, but he's just looking for Amelia because she's germane to another case. And who's Amelia again? Yeah, exactly. So that's Margaret Quali, Russell Crowe. A little bit after one of the best actor career ones, we had this 11 year run from 97 to 07, had a pretty hard career swim. Some of that was self-inflicted. And he's 51 when he does this movie and it's a hard 51. Like he's lived some life. He's lived some Australian life. He said it was a character choice. He did say it to pack on a few for this guy. Yeah, he might have already packed it on. I would say Rob, this wasn't quite his 22 step warriors title, but a little bit similar vibes of like, I'm still here. I'm still really good at stuff. Don't count me out. Yeah, I think he's more than still here. Like this movie doesn't work without his like counterweight to everything. He's just praised Gosling up and down. I think you need the specificities of Crowe's performance. I want to save some more about that for later, but I think he's just phenomenal. I mean, look, him and Gosling are great together. Obviously he peaked chemistry wise the most with Caruso in Proof of Life. We don't need to litigate that. No, stuff of legends. I really liked that he was able to find chemistry with another actor though. After when you peak like that with Caruso, yeah, to know that he could still do it again. I thought was cool. Yeah, so like he just makes some odd choices with what to do with his career that may be a matter of like what's offered to him versus, you know, what he wants to be doing. I mean, it's more likely now that you'll see him in an exorcism movie than you'll see him in a big drama. He's had a big like early 60s renaissance. He's moved into this horror film kind of. But he's a Nuremberg, right? That came out this year, this past year. He's fantastic in this. He's such a great, rough, you know, bully with a heart of gold. And he's the one with principles in this movie. Do you have a point? I'm a big fan of the somebody opens the door and just gets punched right in the face. But I think always works from a comedic standpoint. Yeah, it's so starting in 2010, Robin Hood next three days, Republic of Doyle, man with the iron fist, they miss a Rob, broken city, man of steel, Winner's Tale, Noah, the winter divide with water diviner and fathers and daughters. Yeah. Six years. This was in the running for biggest actor that we had in the early 2000s. Simon Denzel, right? Yeah. We talked about this when we did gangster, but good comeback from him. Also some really good stuff from the younger actors in this. How do we say Andre Rice? Is that how you say? Angoria, I think. Angoria Rice? Margot Kwai. I like Andre Rice though. You play for the R. Andre Rice is in this. Syracuse 2009. But Rice has a tremendous little kid performance in this. Just amazing. And if you came out of this movie and you were like, which of these two are gonna have a bigger career, Rice or Kwali? Oh. I think Rice would have been like a minus 300 favorite. She's younger. She was in mayor of Easttown. Yeah. Yeah. But Kwali, it's funny to watch her in this now because she's a major, major star. Sure. I'm gonna give Rice the Sasha Jenkins award for the actor you can't believe didn't become a bigger star just from this movie. Yeah. There's still so much time though. There's time. She's 25. No, she's 25. It still can happen. That's why she can't officially get it. And then our guy Keith David is in this CR. Great to see him. He's that guy to Craig. I get it. Plus it's Keith David. We're not gonna litigate that either. I'm glad he didn't go to Detroit. He came back. Came back for the second turn in this movie. If you go to Michigan, we're cool. Yeah. The nice guys took inspiration from Brett Halliday's novel, Blue Murder, which is a pulp book. You have this one? I have this one. Yeah. I need to get this for the book collection. Yeah. Try to figure it out. Directed and Co-Written by Shane Black. You mentioned his credentials earlier. Last Boy Scout wrote. Last Action Arrow wrote. Long Kiss Good Night wrote. Created the Leith Weapon franchise. Wrote all of them. Directed Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang. Wrote and directed Iron Man 3, which was the most successful. What's Walk Me Through Iron Man 3? What happens? The first two thirds are actually really good. The last third is like a bunch of action figures mashing against each other. The kid who finds Misty Mountains in this movie, the kid who discovers her in the beginning is the like star of Iron Man 3. Really? Yeah. Straight up. Interesting. Well, he started this script for this in 01. It almost became a CBS TV series at some point. And then they changed the setting to 1977 and it fell into place as a movie eventually. TV series, I don't know if that one would have worked. It would have been a little early for the prestige TV run. Like I can see this working, but I don't think you get Gosling and Crowed. We'll talk more about what they should have done with this franchise later. I feel like the TV part is almost more believable than the idea that it wouldn't be a period piece. Trying to set this in 2016 or 2010 or something, I don't even know what that story is. It was just you guys sitting in traffic. Well, it allows you a lot more fun too with 77 because you have way less rules and restrictions. So this movie, 50 million made 62.8, barely made the money back. Gosling made the point over and over again about Angry Birds. It also opened against Neighbors 2. Yeah, which was a reprehensible sequel. One of the, was that one comedy died, Craig? Neighbors 2? What year was that? Oh, that was 2016. Same year. Yeah, that's bad. That might have been the... Who were the additions to the Neighbors universe in that movie? Totally Grace Moretz was in it. They flicked it. They made it a sorority. It's really bad. 115 minutes this movie, Craig. Yeah, great. I'm not gonna criticize this being over 100 minutes at all. This is like my favorite movie the last 10 years. So let's go. Good with me. So plus 15, you're good anyway. Fine. It's so tight. The script is great. I have no notes. Okay. Did we do enough about Shane Black? Is he like a top five screenwriter for you? I think he's a hugely influential and consequential screenwriter. And like him and Joe Esther Haas in the 80s kind of introduced this idea of like the million dollar spec. Yeah. And he is really, really, really maybe the best ever at the buddy, the buddy movie. The buddy actually. We can tell he grew up on like the 48 hours type of movies and was just like, this is gonna be my recipe. Sure. Just wise cracks and action and good set pieces. And I'm gonna nail this. He does break your heart sometimes though. Yeah. Like they're either big hits like this. Or it's like... Or it's play dirty. I don't know that I ever looked more forward to a movie than when he did a predator movie. That really went wrong in a couple different ways. Does not work, unfortunately. Roger Ebert sadly passed away in 2016. You're gonna... Or 2013. Disgrace yourself by asking ChatGbt. Don't do that. What? Don't do that. I did. No. ChatGbt said probably three and a half stars, Roger would have given. He said he had a strong appreciation for great comedic performances. I think he would have gone three. I think he would have been like it's pretty convoluted. I think Shane Black was right about humanity. Just like we are the absolute shit. Just bottom of the barrel stuff. ChatGbt, Roger Ebert's opinion. Listen, we don't have Roger. We didn't have the review. Yeah. I would say three and a half, but I could see the three. Yeah. But I do think he would have really loved Gosling. And I think he liked these goofy genre kind of movies like this. You gotta really want it with this movie. Because I do think you're right. On first watch, you're probably a little confused by the plot and it's a little bit more confusing than the necessary. And then it's like the second, third, fourth time around where like it's the line underneath the line or the sight gag happening in the background of a scene. Like Janet throwing the bowling ball backwards that you're just like, Holy shit, this is so funny. Fucking Janet. Well, but then dropping the dead body on the dinner table was funny the first time. Yes. But only escalates. Every time you see Sid Shaddick's body, it collapse that poor dinner party. Poor Sid Shaddick. We're going to take a break and then we are going to do the categories. This episode is brought to you by Claude from Anthropic. You know that thing where you finish a movie and you immediately have to look up who directed it, what year it came out, how much money you made. Suddenly it's one AM. Well, Claude is built for that kind of rabbit hole. Deep research featuring digs across dozens of sources. Pulls it all together, cast connections, box office context, production history. So you're not bouncing between 10 tabs because that stinks. It thinks with you instead of just handing you a quick summary. Try it free at claude.ai slash rewatchables. This is your latest project. It's heavy with information, data, and exactly 36 pages of waffle. 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Always the one story. Sometimes like the circle, drive way in front, they have a couple of those in these, but very, very like LA, but I like that. If you're out there and you got a lead on one of these, hit me up. I would like this house. Rob will live in Encino. The car going through the house was nothing though. That was a pretty good, what the fuck is going on here. Just a great way to start a movie. Shane Black's really smart about like, what will grab somebody's attention? Well, then we get a nude scene in this too, if they weren't trying to grab your attention enough. If Van was here, he would be bringing this up. Even in the background, the shot of when the kids hit the sink and then you see the car tumbling down the hill in the background. Yeah, it's really well staged. The number of times I've tried to watch this on a plane, including in the in-flight entertainment, and I just have seen it so many times, I forget about the almost full frontal nudity in the first five minutes. And she's like, oh, I am that guy sitting next to a child on a plane watching the opening scene of the nice guys. Well, thank God Van isn't here because this would be up five minutes longer. We'll go to the next scene. Jackson beats up March. This includes the, we're gonna play a game. It's called shut up unless you're me. Good button to say to your kids, by the way. I don't know if you've tried that with the other children. Why did people go see this movie? Like, it's unbelievable. I like that game. This will see, including like the tic-tac-toe of Gosling trying to open the cookie jar and get the gun out and then getting punched in the face. It's just like, this might be the most rewatchable scene right out of the game. A discretionary revelation. Well, we didn't mention before this scene, he punches through the window. Oh my God. This is arm open. I can watch him react to his bleeding wrist. So many times, he's just like, that's a lot of blood. I like that he wraps it. Like it's gonna go really well. Tell him you have a spiral fracture of the left radio followed by the high pitch scream. Which is not really funny. Gosling on the, on the John in the bathroom with the gun and the sig, it is pants down. Just hilarious. Great job by him. It's amazing. Plus Holly asking Healy to beat up Janet. Yeah, the whole bowling alley scene is great. Very good. I just, it's a small scene, but it fucking kills me. And it just be my kind of humor, but the little kid on the bike. Bill, this is the most rewatchable scene. Bragging about his dick. I mean, this might be big dick. You wanna see it? How many categories can this scene win? This kid, this scene. This is awesome. Every time he's like, $20? Fucking check. When Chek goes, cost the guy his life and his life's work really makes me think. Not really, Chek. I offered to show my dick cause I got a big dick. All right? I love the kids perfectly cast too because he really has that. I have a big dick confidence, but he's just a 12 year old on a bike. No one's named hat rack. Can we give that kid the best fucking act you can ever see in my life? He's a very good. He's a Dan waiter. He's a son. It's a rap. $20? That kid's like up there with Jacob Tremblay. You know what I mean? In terms of fucking young acting. How did anyone keep a straight face during that? I don't think they did. The bloopers of this movie must be insane. Oh my God. I would have been fucking dying. Oh fuck. Like how is he just saying this? The big porn party scene, which includes sweetheart, how many times have I told you don't say in stuff, just say there are horse here. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. And then you know what? They call them killer bees, don't you? They kill you. They kill you. Goss and Gover the deck is great. And the can't speak thing is funny. Everything is great. I love the party. I like how weird it is. There's girls upside down. When he goes up to one of the dancers and he just says, you seem to have a very good vantage point up there. I lost my sister. Oh man. I think this has to be the pick. The party. The porn party? Yeah. It's got the mermaids. Yeah. It's got a bang and soundtrack. It's got a fight. It's got a death. It really has everything. It's got the roll down the hill. It was my pick too. Couple more, the dump of the body over the fence on the dinner party into the fight scene is good. The hot tub, shooting through the hot tub I thought was effective. That's a nice one. The elevator scene is short, but it's so fucking funny. I mean, it's definitely the most gifable moment. Before the door opens, he's like Hitler only had one ball. Every Hitler joke in this movie works. They keep going back. There's like eight of them. Yeah. But it was only 30 years prior, you know? He's really interested in Hitler. Yeah. And then when it's going back down and Goss sings like, Vibrating. Eyes like twitching. He's like, body falls down the elevator. I love how scared March gets at violence. Yeah. Two more, the Nixon story when he finishes. And he's like, so what's the point? There are two ways to look at something. Why did you just fucking say that? And then they bring it back. The auto show. Yeah. And then it pays off. Nixon in the pool. I don't know if this is a good podcast, but I'm having a really good time too. Yeah. Gossling in the fake porn movie, and the auto weird auto show. And there's parts of this that almost feel like one of those Zestano movies in the 90s, like how it kind of wraps up. Improv. Like Tommy Boy. Yeah. Like those kind of, oh, now our characters are here. They're a little elevated version of it, but it's effective. So we all agree it's the porn party. Yeah, but I would say if you want to know why this movie is so special, it's the chat scene with the kid being like, because I got a big kick. I just love because, all right. Just because it's like, even that whole thing, they're standing in the ashes of a burned down house, gossling lights a cigarette, and it's just like moving shit around, and it's just like, what am I doing here? So annoyed. Yeah. We have to change this to the most 1977 thing about this movie, I think, which includes a gas shortage, killer bees in Brazil. I actually remember when that happened, being little and being like, are we going to get killed by bees? It was a thing. That was a thing. That was a thing, huh? It was a real thing. A killer with a mole named John Boy. Yeah. There's some sunset boulevard stuff, including the Tower Records, which is gone, but was here when I moved here. And the comedy store. Comedy store. Robert Klein. And then the smog rallies. But I think it's John Boy, I think, is the winner for this. Yeah, fuel rationing. Like, Craig, did you know who John Boy was? Yeah. I would also go for a guy's shaving in their cars. The Waltz was a massive show in the 70s. Fair enough. It's really hard to explain now. Yeah. I couldn't tell you one thing about it. Do you have you ever used it? My dad's family watched it. I never watched it. I never watched the Waltz. My dad's family was like a big Walton's family. Were you ever an electric razor guy, like portable electric razor guy? Yeah. But the number of people who still will walk around just using those things in public. Not in their cars so much, but in public spaces, you would be shocked. I like the idea of doing a lot of shit in your car. Like using the rear-view mirror, because you're like, I just live in here. I got to shape up a little bit. Gahazza big electric razor guy. Caught him a couple of times. As far as the 2016 part, we're about just like an R-rated comedy period. Yeah. Right. Like this year alone, 2016, we talked about neighbors too. Pop star, Deadpool, everybody wants some, Edge of 17, Swiss Army Man, Sausage Party, Bad Moms, Mike and Dave need wedding dates, Bridget Jones' baby, Keanu, Office Christmas Party, How to be Single, Dirty Grandpa. Nice guys. We get maybe one of these? Like it's just gone. It's all moved to horror. It's just a genre that doesn't exist anymore. It's a streamer still. The funny thing about all those movies you've listened, you've listed, my son was eight and then turned nine that year. And I think we watched all of them, because he was at that I'm being dangerous with our R-rated comedy stage. So this is how I saw all those movies. One of my backup, the hottest takes was the action comedy is the thing that most people love that is the hardest to make. The hardest to make. Well, I can count on one hand, successful action comedies over the last like. You have to nail the one or two actors that are the weeds. It has to be downing. Basically like this in Pineapple Express and I don't know. Can you think of any others? Of this century? Yeah. Truly an action comedy. Craig's working on a script right now of him and Bellany and Lucas going to the Oscars together and things go horribly wrong at the Vanity Fair Party. I think it's drone stride. Yeah. They need that third act. Yeah. Get that down. Hot fuzz. Yes. And I would say the Cournot trilogy is probably right there. Yeah. I think it'll come back because I think there's too many horror movies and not enough comedies right now. Sure. More comedy than in action. You're right. The other guys is hilarious. We put that in the poll. It was. We thought maybe it had dark horse. I was hoping it might steal it. Yeah. I mean it might be the best like opening gag of any comedy. In terms of in terms of like the misdirect of what that movie is going to be. Is it the Derek Jeter thing? No. Like them jumping off of the roof top. Right. Right. Again unbelievable. The Eva Mendes thing just is one of the funniest guys of the century. Yeah. You're dressed like that. The Floyd Gondali butter in my ass and lollipops in my mouth award for something I just enjoy. A great addition to the rewatch. You want me to throw the challenge flag because it's Gondoli. Gondoli. Yeah. You should go and dial it. You can bring the challenge flag. We needed one. My improv challenge flag. We did this in the mail bag when I do a mispronunciation. A reader wanted, a listener wanted Craig to actually throw. John Grewn and sex. You say that. I think you would get really untold if we started throwing flags. You'd be like, fuck you. I want the host. Let me kick off this show very quickly. I'm due to maybe two, maybe the third one is the flag. Craig, we think how it could take on more responsibility. Yeah. I have for this, for my butter in my ass award. I think it's better when you mispronounce Gondoli. Floyd Gondoli. I think because I spelled it wrong. It's Gondoli. Yeah. Movies that organically end with the possibility that the main characters might reunite for a sequel. I know. But that's every movie now. No, but they do this in a way where you're like, is there a second one coming? What's happening? It's not like neighbors. They didn't know neighbors too was happening when they made neighbors. No, they were like, we learned our lesson. It's all over now. Yeah. Yeah. In this one, it's kind of like if this does well, do you want to do this in two years? Were the vibes and it just didn't happen? It's worth mentioning that the research suggests that these guys read the script instantaneously were like, I'll do it if he does it. Yeah. Yeah. And that it was like a pleasure to make for the most part. Like it's so like it is a great shame that they never made another one. And that the advertisement for their detective agency was so great. I'm sorry. You look Filipino. It's you. We're Mexican. Well, we never hear the research where the guys like, I'll do it if Rob does it. Yeah. And then they got a rob and he's like, no, I don't want to be in it. Yeah, sure. No, no, thanks. Yeah. We never get like that in the research. Did you have a gondola award? Barely functioning alcoholic private detective. Yeah. It works every time. Yeah. I had every time somebody in this movie trips holding a gun and just like shoot somebody. Yeah. That's how it always works for a movie. It's a great bit. Yeah. It's undefeated. Special award. We don't get to give this too much. The Robert Duvall dressed like a priest and swinging in Invasion of the Body Snatchers award for bizarre, uncredited cameo. Yeah. Robert Downey is the dead guy. Sid? Sid, the bottom when he lights the, I had no idea until I did the research. Did you guys know this? No. Yeah. I knew it from, but only from researching in the past of reading about the movie. Did you know this? I did not. It's like unmistakable once you know it. Like, of course that looks like Robert Downey Jr. Yeah. Shane Black basically is the bridge to Downey, the Downey Sans, where he does kiss, kiss, bang bang with him. Does Iron Man 3 together? And they couldn't get him. Couldn't they get him? Like, not, he couldn't get him insured for kiss, kiss, bang bang. It was very hard if they didn't. The mid-2000s was hard to do it. So if not for Shane Black, the Marvel Cinematic Universe never really happens. Yes. And nobody pushes back on Oppenheimer. It's like a race. Right. It's like a race. Well, one thing with this, if I'm going to do an uncredited cameo in Rob's film, I'm probably not doing one where I have to wear a ton of makeup. It is surprising. I'd rather just have been like the bartender in the porn movie with Misty Mountains, like just briefly you see me, not just covered with a gunshot wound and sitting outdoors for probably two days. Yeah. You're doing a nice shoot. What's fun about that? Yeah. You don't want to be the human statue? Like hair and makeup for six hours? I would have said no to that one. What's age the best? We mentioned 70s LA as a setting. Young Margaret Quali, just what's happened over in the last 10 years. It's fun to see her in this. But don't say N-Stuff is just funny. Yeah. I don't know if that, is that caught on in real life? It should have. All right. Maybe, maybe there's still time. Marriage is buying a house for someone you hate. Remember that. Stuff. Is there still time for high school yearbook quotes? We should probably throw that in there for the, for the kids out there. Russell Crowe in the research claiming he put on some extra weight for Jackson Haley. That's amazing. I love that. Yeah. That's like when Shaq would come back from, from this summer, the Lakers would be like, I put on some extra weight. I'm going to lose it as the year goes along. Yeah. That's like, okay, Shaq. I lost my hair right when we went on video because I thought it would be good. Yeah. It's good comedy. A crow basing her in and doing a thing for you. It did not. I have dream bed. Well, she's coming up, coming up in later categories. I love, love the original. This one, I don't know. And then some Hall of Fame lines that we covered, like shut up unless you're me. I'm sorry. You look Filipino and so on. Um, and then there's a Fennesey criteria orgasm in this where, um, Gosling's doing Lou Costello with a, yeah, not being able to talk. That's like a famous 1930s gag. So what'd you have for what's interesting? Uh, CD Los Angeles. So porn and, uh, strip, strip clubs, dive bars, hotel bars. It seemed awesome. I loved the setup of the Burbank Airport hotel where it's like the flight deck bar. So there's like a dive bar on the first floor, but then there's also like a penthouse bar. Um, I would, it seemed like a lot of hotel bars, two movie theaters, yeah, um, adult bookstores and just kind of creepy places. Yeah. It's just a great rendition of it. I also really, uh, enjoy the runners that they have. So like the jokes that keep appearing in the, in the movie. Number one being Janet and just like how much everybody hates Janet. We're also like, is it Janet or Jessica? It's like, God, Jessica, Jessica's sister is a slut. Jessica sister's a whore. Yeah. Also when, when they're trying to figure out how to wake up Amelia, Jessica's like, she's such a whore. We could just hit her really hard. Jessica Stealth and VP of this movie. But it's like, it's just really funny to hear Ryan Gosling talk about kids, like they're adults. And that, so that, that is definitely. That's a good one stage the best for this. Treating kids like adults in the seventies. Cause by the way, that's what we did in the seventies. He drives his daughter. No one talks about it. The whole movie. No, you would just have a 12 year old baby said five other kids and be out for six hours. My other, what's age the best is Hannibal Boris as the killer B in the backseat when he falls asleep. It's really fucking great. It's really great. What do you have, Rev? Being suspicious of major corporations. Yeah. Hmm. Maybe they don't have our best interests at heart. Hmm. Possible. So it's a big theme these days. Did you guys feel like the catalytic converter Detroit layer of this movie was like a little bit too, it's like, it's like putting a little bit too much garnish on the sandwich. Like it, it's really great. There's the missing girl. There's the porn stuff. There's all this like conspiracy, but then you add on Detroit automakers being the main villain of it. Yeah. It's all, you know, Hey, they're going for it. They are. I like it because it perpetuates humor, right? Like because you then you get to lean into the smog stuff, then you get the protesters with the gas mask. It's like because they're poking fun at it the whole time. Like that's why I think it works. And you get Gosling saying, we're all going to be driving Japanese. I guarantee it. You have any other what stage the best Gosling himself. I mean, like he was a star then, but he is something else now. Yeah. Yeah. Great shot, Gorda. Keith David hitting the pool deck. And it just turns into red. Yeah. Yeah. But just that overhead shot of Gosling and him falling. Yeah. It's a great that. Chess Rockwell, Brocklanders were best character name. We don't always give this out, but we do at Misty Mountains and John Boy. Just a killer named John Boy was really smart. I like it. And Misty Mountains is like, if you have to come up with a Christie Canyon suit, and that's great. Pretty easy. What about poor Nukio? Yeah. From, I mean, the man from the billboard himself, we see him in the flat while in the wood, like it's not as knows the gross. Amanda Dobbins, award for best piece of real estate. We don't get to give this out all the time, but Shid Shaddux, Sid Shaddick's house was the Atlanta home of hip hop producer, Dallas Austin. Yeah. Also featured at MTV Cribs. So a true Dobbins award. Yeah. Atlanta as LA. Full scale Dobbins for this one. I like Gosling's house too. Yeah. Yeah. Kid Cuddy pursuit of happiness, where for best needle drop, we can either go with kiss, I want to rock and roll or night or America horse with no name. Oh, I had get down on it. The cool in the gang. Yeah. Which is the song playing at the porn party. Special band. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Once we get September at the porn party. Also, like Al Green closing credits. Al Green closing credits is awesome. Bands playing on the roof of a party is pretty cool. Pretty cool. What do you have for your flex? Okay. So I have a couple. I'm going to go with it's a book about medals award for belatedly. Best quote is at the clean air protest. When Gosling goes, which one of you cock and balls? Twenty bucks. I kind of wish you would just like walk out into the bullpen of the ringer and say that. Maybe our new sick of our studio. I'll just do that. Sean Penn, I brought my own back award goes to Gosling and the he got game hooker scene. Most awkward scene of somebody randomly walks in is when Holly is watching porn with the adult film actress. Talking about anal. Yeah. Yeah. And stuff. Yeah. Stuff. Those are good. Butch's girlfriend award for weak link of the film. I don't know. I like this movie. I struggled. I came up with one, but I don't feel great about it. Let's talk this out. Yeah. Is this movie better or worse or the same if Holly stays home for like half the adventures that they go on. So it's interesting because I had her as the weak link too. Even though I like the performance. I like the performance. And I had a different angle on it though. Okay. The the incredibly savvy 13 year old girl with the heart of gold. It's a little bit a little bit of a movie trophy. Yeah. What's the purpose? These people don't really exist. And I think the purpose is to nudge Healy right to nudge Russell Crowe's character. Because if she's not around, he's murdering everybody they run into. And so like the turn of the heart of the movie, I think comes through her being there and him stopping. It is weird that the two people she wants to save are John Boy and Blueface. It's like these two guys really almost. Yeah. Blueface tried to shoot her. Yeah. Yeah. What'd you have for weak link? Do you have one? I think this is Kim Bezinger. I had her in a later category. She's the one thing in this movie that's like a little off register that kind of takes me out of it. And it's like clearly she can do the genre. Yes. It was in this mode, in this kind of part. She sticks out a little bit. It's tough because you wonder whether or not she did like four days on the on the movie because she's in two scenes basically. And they were like, yeah, here's, here it is. And she had no idea how Zany the rest of the movie was. Yeah. She's in a, honestly, you could give her, I had her for what's age the worst, you could give her in the, let's see what we have, the Judd Nelson, New Jack City. I'm in a different movie. Yeah. She's just, every time she's in the movie, it's another movie's happening. Yeah. I think what makes it more noticeable is Tally, Yaya Takasah. Like she feels of a piece of everything that's happening. And so then the contrast between her and Kim Bezinger is just like that much more stark. So jump it ahead. We can come back to this, but I had for recast and couch trying to figure out who would have been a good Kim Bezinger in part for this. Oh, good. Because I think I do think it's got to be somebody who's a little bit funny, but you don't want to go like Sean Young, Ace Ventura, like over the top. But I think it's got to be somebody that's got a little sauce to them. She just doesn't have sauce. Who's your idea? I had a lot of trouble figuring it out because it would have to have been they wanted somebody like probably in their mid fifties at the time, right? But somebody that was famous. So it's somebody it's really like Meryl Streep in the early 2000s. You think Holly Hunter would be too old? I don't mind that. Holly Hunter is a good one. Holly Hunter, Francis McDormand, not that Francis McDormand probably wouldn't. Honestly, Francis McDormand would be amazing. She'd be really good. I had, I always feel like Diane Lane could have like needed a part like this, but I also love Diane Lane. She might be wrong. Sharon Stone, I think was probably a little too old at this point in 2016, but in the mid 2000s, I think would have been really good. It's got to be somebody who was sexy older, but also like had some some comedy chops. To me more. I was wondering about like, do we just horse a good one? Collapse the space time continuum and just make to me more Margaret Wally's mom. I wonder if she does something similar to what Pacinger does. So it's kind of like, what kind of comedy is she done though? Are you I don't know. I can't. Yeah. Would it be tough? Would it be too meta to just do Andy McDowell? Oh, Rob, like it's right there. Like Rob, you fucking did it. You redeemed yourself for the Nirvana episode. Yeah, Andy McDowell can do comedy. Yeah. Oh, that's a great idea. Why didn't they do that? I don't know. I mean, maybe this is at the point of Margaret Wally's career, where she doesn't want that too. But maybe if it happens now. Yeah, because they've made a movie since together since I think so. Yeah. It's a really good point that it doesn't seem like Basinger knows what movie she's in. Because she's just playing it straight and there's no extra sauce to it at all. I just don't really get it. I don't I don't get what they're trying to get out of it. I don't know when they filmed it. They could have filmed that scene earlier in the movie and then it got way zanier throughout the filmmaking. Because when you watch the behind the scenes, the making of like even Matt Boomer, who plays John Boy, is like, this movie is fucking funny. Like that's the thing that you got to know about it. And Kim Basinger just seems to be like, you know, it's a very complicated story about LA and crime. I love Shane Black's writing. And she thinks she's in LA confident. Any other what's age the worst? I had trouble finding what's age the worst because I think this movie is aged really well. And it's also set in the 70s when it's supposed to age. I had was there is an element of dead of thieves downtown Atlanta to some of the exterior shots of LA. So like the vibe is always great. But sometimes you can tell like the streets are a little too narrow or there's too much, you know, like foliage in different places. Like when you're watching dead of thieves, you can tell that's not gardenia. And like, you know, I've seen dead of thieves. I've seen that. And they shot this in downtown Atlanta. Stephanie would say to us, it's a perfect movie. Hans Gruber scale villain ranking. Blue face is like at nine. Yeah, really. And it's yeah, John Boy solid. John Boy, I thought was like at least a seven and a half. Let me ask you something, though. John Boy, it's like. It's kind of like, are you expecting a little bit more, a little bit of Darren Peterson vibes from John Boy, where you're like, I'm hearing all about this guy getting off the plane from New York. He's the baddest motherfucker ever. You've missed 200 shots. Yeah, he does miss a lot of shots. He does get out by two teenage girls pretty quickly. Yeah, Fox. Yeah, but he is menacing. Like he is creepy. And I say this with full acknowledgement, like, look, I don't I don't want to put this out there, but I literally have the same haircut as him. So it's not a great energy that we're putting out in the world. But he shows up and he's definitely served the intended effect. John Boy, great, great name for a villain. Ruffalo, Hannah Rubin and Partridge overacting word. Blueface dialing it up the whole time. The whole time. And then Kuali has that one monologue when she at one point she's like, it's not a poor just like start screaming for some reason. So it's one of those two. Rob, you have a flex. I do. I went with the Rick Sissetti Guard Mead Award. Most memorable death by a security guard or other bystander. The movie treats as inconsequential as a spouse and kids who love them. Specifically, there is a hard working out actor out there in Hollywood. Got a job. It's not the best job, but it paid. They showed up. They're just trying to support their family. Your job is to be a tree man at this porn party on stilts. The tree man. And you're just taking straight, like just takes a stray bullet to the chest. Yeah. On what otherwise was like a normal job. Fuck. In your family. Yeah. You have a mask on as you die or a helmet, whatever the fuck he's got on. Imagine being that guy's wife who then has to explain. Do you think he gets a sad card for doing that? Identify the body. Oh my God. That's a good one. We'll take one more break and then we got how to stake. All right. The CR thinks Luke Wilson could have been Harrison Ford. How does take a word? Threatening to be renamed as the Nirvana was overrated. Rob Mooney thinks Nirvana is overrated award. What do you have for how to stake CR? We should be actively awaiting the third movie of this series right now and not pining for it when people get interviewed for other movies that they're in. It's ridiculous. This is such an enjoyable movie. You could kick it ahead five years and do like 1982 nice guys. Like what are we doing? Why can't we make more movies like this and more? So you could do mid eighties at least. You could do like Simpson, Brokheimer, Heide the cocaine, Hollywood era and just also run it back. The I can't remember the actual literal title, but like they were like what we would do is go to Mexico. It would be nice guys in Mexico, which would have just been like, come on, man. I'm still trying to decide who to blame. Like we know the Angry Birds are to blame. But I'm willing to back it up. Like Steve Jobs introduces the iPhone. Seriously, American civilization nosedives, including the creation of the games that become Angry Birds that then outgrows nice guys at the box office. Neighbors to. I think I blame neighbors neighbors to for a lot of stuff. God's thing's so famous now that I just feel like he could. Say, Hey, it's time. I want to do nice guys too. Are they really saying no to that? It's in a few years or two. He could like a streamer is going to be like, no, we're not funny. I mean, David Ellison now owns Warner Brothers who made this movie. Ellison, I feel like be into this. You think so? Yeah. Yeah, his his taste seems to pray. Dave's got some edgy taste. I think he likes buddy cop stuff. He's like this chet joke was. It's like, can we get the kid with the big dick again? What do you have for how to say? Like we talked about Gosling. Yeah, he's on fire in this movie. I think this is the best that Russell Crowe has ever been. Period. No, I'm sorry during Sierra month. I don't mean to do this. Insider. That is so that to me is the only real competition. That take is. Sure, you're really good at this. So he is. Oh my God. He is the action star of this movie. Like he is in every fight. He is in every shootout. He is genuinely hilarious in terms of like he's getting a chance to play a role. He's never allowed to play, which is this sort of comedic role. And he's the beating heart that like rounds out the whole movie and makes it to me. A rewatchable. Like if this is just depraved and funny, that's nice and you move on. But it's like it does have a feel good element that comes from him. And I think he is the piece that kind of brings it all together in a way that even Gosling doesn't. It's hard for me to get too mad at that when I think proof of life was is a pex. Sure. Interesting take, though. I think what's missing is like there was a time like way earlier when, you know, he was a really handsome, like leady man, but also like gladiator Russell Crowe. Yeah. I just don't think there's a lot of people who could have been gladiator Russell Crowe. You don't think so? No, I don't. I think he kind of gets dog walked by a walkie in that movie, to be honest with you. Really? Like he's he's good. He's really good in it. Dog walks fairly in two scenes together. No, but in terms of like who is owning the presence of that movie, he like, and look, a lot of us just character is playing a pretty straightforward like heroes journey, go and fight the big fight, like Avenger family, all of that stuff. There's not a lot for him to do this exciting and he holds it and he's good in it and like, should he have won best actor for gladiator? Did he win for that one or beautiful mind? He won for both, didn't he? No, he only won one. I think he only I think he won for gladiator. Yeah, he won for gladiator. I don't know. Maximus was pretty great. Yeah. What do you stand on this, Craig? Are you gladiator guy, Greg? Craig? Um, I'm closer to Rob on this, to be honest, about gladiator and Crowe. It's a traditional role. Yeah. It's a little limited. It's a generational thing. I don't know. I do think insider is that's the one. When he's like, my command only shall you're not like, let's go. Let's do it. I'm like, let's go. But could you plug another actor in and say the same thing? I'd still be like, let's go. I think I would. Could you could you pull it? He only won for gladiator, not beautiful mind. Yeah. I feel like concept, you know, is going to just dive through the window right now. Tech Rob. My hattest take was also Rosa Crowe related. I think he was the Chiquillo-Neal of actors. Holo fame potential. You could see it early in the 90s, right? This guy, something's going to happen, even goes head dead with Denzel. Career apex from 2000 to 2002, just like Shaq, three finals MVPs for Shaq, three best actor nominations in a row and a win for Russ. Crazy. Should have won a couple more MVPs. Kind of didn't totally want it. One of those sideways couldn't really stay in the shape, which was like a Shaq thing. I think nice guys and the Miami title as the sidekick with Wade. That's a really good one. Like a combo of that. And I still think he's a pantheon guy from the last 50 years, but I feel like he left a little on the table. It's an 11 year run. I felt like it could have been longer. Tease this analogy out. That means last night, Russell Crowe went live right after the Oscars. It was like, Michael B. Jordan, mate, could have done a little bit more and impressed me. Playing twins. I did that. I did that. We didn't even have special effects. You forgot budding musical careers, too. That's right. You know, very important part of the story. A little bit of the Billy Bob Thornton, like kind of more interested in rocking out than than acting, maybe who to blame him. I know. Yeah. Casting would have none. Yeah. Too early. The movie just came out. And also, would you really change that much other than basing her? The big one, the big one was that the mailing the scripts to the two guys and then being like, I'm in a piece in, which doesn't really seem to happen that often. Best that guy word for the casuals, Keith David. Yeah. Stealth. Bo NAP. Who plays Blueface. Yeah. One of those guys. I didn't even know where he's from. I had Lois Smith as the old lady with the Coke bottle glasses. On Meg from Twister. Yeah. Oh, that's who that was. Yeah. That's a good one. I do think Bo is Bonhab not just doing Sasha Baron Cohen as Blueface? Is that not like the energy he actually was? Every time this movie comes on, I was like, is Sasha Baron Cohen in this movie? Fairly not. Deion Waiters. Muriel Tello is Misty Mountains. Blueface could keep going, but it's the little. Ames Lance Valentine. Is that what his name is? He's only one scene, right? Perfect Deion. Legendary Deon performance. We did recast and couch unless you guys have anything else for that. Oh, Craig, you have a flex. So I created a new category. I just think no one knows how to open a movie and set the tone quite like Shane Black and it made me think of when Kobe Bryant plowed through Palgasol on the redeem team, which is like Misty Mountains plowing through the build, the home to start this movie. And if you go back and you look through Shane Black's movies, let the weapon starts with the naked stripper committing suicide off the hotel. Yeah. Last Boy Scout starts with the football player pulls out the pistol, shoots the guy before scoring the touchdown and you have this movie. So I think it's the Kobe Bryant shoving Palgasol award for the best tone setting opening move and Shane Black has the belt right now. Wow. He's also just like, if you read his scripts, they'll grab you by the little palgas. Yeah. Like keep reading. Also, I love when an opening scene, I guess this is my gondola. I love when an opening scene has characters that aren't involved with the rest of the movie. Yeah. It's just like a tight, like a cool package. Yes. Yeah. There's so many of those throughout this movie too. Like the two women who walked by at the porn party being like, well, if he wanted me to do that, he shouldn't eat in the asparagus. So it's just like that's happening constantly in this movie. Right at it. Half-East Center in Research, not allowed at this point. We had the Atlanta thing. Russell Crowe said it was one of two films where he wished there was a sequel. Said this on Howard Stern, the other was LA Confidential, which ironically we're doing next week on the rewatchables. Unintentional that this happened. The book Holly was reading from is called a catamon the pigeons by Agatha Christie. That was really all. Otherwise we mentioned. I did. Like you mentioned the Ebon Castello thing earlier with Gosling. And the part of that that I liked was the reason he got into Ebon and Castello is because his parents wouldn't pay for blockbuster. So the only movies he could get were from the public library, found Ebon and Castello. Interesting. Apex Mountain, Crowe, I guess for Rob and nobody else. For me personally. Gosling with this in La La Land. I think we're here. This is the definition of it, right? It's not quite Wangcheng Apex Mountain, but it's Apex Mountain. But again, I'm perpetually. You missed the Wangcheng combo in the last episode. Well, I'm just confused by this category, regardless of any Wangcheng happening. Wangcheng's 1985 was the all time Apex Mountain that's ever happened. Yeah. Yeah. It's the Apex of Apex Mountain. It's now Wangcheng's Apex Mountain, like the Sofai Stadium. Yeah. I'm glad for the branding. Yeah. Does he not have like more cachet post Barbie than after La La Land? So this gets into what kind of Apex Mountain, what kind of mountain do you like being on? Is it when it seems like it's all out in front of you or are you just at the height of your earning potential? We had a, in the mailbag, we had a mathematician write in about the post Apex. You can actually, it's kind of the, you've still got it combined with maybe you were higher, but it wasn't quite Apex Mountain, but it was like you actually, it was like the Curry 2022, basically. Yeah. So Barbie was probably that for Gosling. Do you think you'll go see Project Hail Mary? My son wants to see it, so it's in play. Okay. But then he'll be like, yeah, I saw it last time with my girlfriend. Sorry. What's the holdup? Just the sci-fi? That's what's keeping you out? No, I want to see it. I, there's really good buzz on it. Yeah. You haven't seen it, right? I'm seeing it tonight. Nice. Two hours and 45 minutes. Oh, look at the big boy. What is he saying? Look at the big brain of Fred. The big brain of Fred. Man, I fucked that up. Apex Mountain for 1977. Just in general is the greatest year we've ever produced in the world. I was bored that year. Yeah. What a great year. Star Wars. Pretty good. Good stuff. Reggie Jackson. Yeah. Keith David fight scenes. Sadly, no, it's still they live. That's an amazing one. Isn't it? They live? No, that was not him. Is Davey Brooks? He turned me in the alley. Did I just do the thing where I confused Keith David and Davey Brooks? Wait, Keith David is in there. Yeah, Keith David's in there. It was Keith. What? He's looking at me like I was crazy. I didn't. He said so. Keith David and Roddy Piper. It was him, Bill, not me. First of all, I didn't say anything. You said I can guess it yourself. I did. I said guess myself. It's Keith David and they live. Keith David is still the winner. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Shane Black. Probably. No. Don't Iron Man 3. I mean Iron Man 3, but nothing kind of happened after that. I would say writing lethal weapon. One of the lethal weapons. And being like one of the most successful. The lethal weapon won. This is Apex Mountain, I think. In Gery Rice. I hope not. Yeah. Too early to say. Quality too early to say. Dad, daughter movies, probably not. No. Basing or no. The 1978 auto show, I think it might have been. For sure. Yeah. Not a lot of talk about that show other than this. John Boy in the Waltons, probably still the Waltons. I think so. Which was the number one show for like five years. More than the nice guys, yeah. Yeah. Fair. Breaking a window going wrong. Might have been the might have been the peak. I can't think of another example. As funny as it gets for sure. 1967 Red Mustangs with a Way Convertible Top. Yep. For a movie, pretty good. Retro porn portraits. Boogie dance. Yeah. Cruiser, Cruiser Hanks. Cruise as John Boy. Like he's. Oh, interesting. He just shows, you don't, you don't. Was like a bad wig. He has like five lines. Or even better if he would play Shaddick. Shaddick would be funny too. Yeah. Cruise in one of these supporting parts who you hear about and then just shows up. I would. Could Hanks have been Russell Crowe's character? I had Hanks for Holland March at a different time in his life. Oh. It's kind of like right after. Oh, like late 80s? Yeah, late 80s. Yes. He could do that. I like Cruise for John Boy. I think that has my vote. I think it'd be fun. You down with that, Craig? But the official winner we're saying is Hanks for a lead role. Yeah, Hanks. In terms of a lead role. Scorsese or Spielberg? Clearly Scorsese. Definitely. Way more Coke at the party. Yes. And we probably would have had, I don't know, tops from the Rolling Stones. No, no daughter because you just want to get way darker, way more fucked up. Yeah. Has Spielberg ever done something like as getting his hands dirty as this? I can't think of anything. Best tang, worst tang. I mean, ironically Gosling's daughter in this movie is probably the best tang of all these people. Blueface is the worst tang. Blueface, tough cross country drive. Blueface would be awful. I would spend the night hanging out with Gosling in a bar. That'd be a lot of fun. I would hang out with Amelia. Like I am one legal substance away from being very on board. There's like big speech about her mom and like, Mammon is her god. Yeah. Like I'm on board for that. Worst tang, Chet. Chet. I like Chet. You talk about the projector. I'm in the industry. I'm a projectionist. Yeah. I'm a projectionist. Come on guy. Pickin' it's 13 year old kids driving. I'm not even sure this was happening in 1977. Especially with manual steering. Yeah, that was. That would have been tough. Do you have that upper body strength to control a car like that? It's a choice. How did Amelia land on their car and not like die immediately? How far did she fall? She said questions about that. No, the camera kind of pans up as a fire escape. She climbs down. She climbs down and hops down. She jumps. Yeah, it's probably a 15 foot jump. But she's putting a lot of mileage in this movie Barefoot. Yeah. Like just running all over the city. And I think that dress is probably a lot more banged up. It's a little more serious. After three days. I think there's probably some coffee on it. All kinds of things. How did they so easily get into Misty Mountain's house a couple of days after the murder? And why was all the evidence just still sitting there? Well, they have her aunt with them. Yeah. I know, but when they picked up like specific evidence of people that were in her life and brought it to her, did that just not have it in 1977? I mean, there was a handwritten note from Chet just sitting there. Yeah. Wouldn't they have brought that into the station? Unless that's close. This also gets into just a complete absence of cops in this movie. They show up a couple of times. Way after the fact and never detaining Jackson and March, despite the fact that there's like seven dead bodies. How do they never go to prison in this movie? I don't know. That could have been nice guys three going to jail. He can't smell. They joke. Did you know what a nose me I was? I did not. Was that real? Who knows if that's real or not. But his daughter kind of says this is why mom died because he couldn't smell. Oh, because of the gas leak. Yeah. But you can't smell a gas leak. I don't think. I still enjoyed it. To me, that's the very like gremlins to my dad died coming down the chimney as Santa kind of like. Weird anecdote into tragic backstory that I can definitely appreciate. I have one more. But did you have any nippics? No, we kind of hit most of them with what's age the worst. I think that the thing I would nip pick the most out is the slightly like convoluted plot. Like like that kind of thing with like obviously she saw the movie that they were watching, which means there's another movie, which means we have she was watching it on the wall. I think Healy pulling together the whole case because he saw a suit on a rack in the office that one time. Yes. Is like maybe a bit much, but it feeds into something I really like about this movie, which is they basically never catch a break because they're good. They basically always catch a break because they're lucky. Like Amelia literally falls on their car and that kind of stuff is happening constantly. And there's there's a lack of heroism in the movie in the sense that like they don't save Amelia. No, she's very unceremoniously dispatched by John. That was one of the things I liked was it's really shocking when she gets shot. Yeah. But is that kind of movie? Yeah. It's the kind of movie where not only is she going to get shot, it's not going to cut away. Like you were just going to see her in cold blood get murdered and left in the street. It's also good because it makes like Angora Rice's character being present for all of it, a little bit more dangerous because like that can happen retroactively. Yeah. This is my big one. Craig, this is why I'm a Hall of Famer. This next nitpick. Gossing twice in the movie is in a body of water and then smokes a cigarette like five minutes later. Those cigarettes are wet. Oh, yeah. Not lighting. No chance. Oh, it's packed. Yeah. It's packed in his pocket. Done. Yeah. It's a wrap. That thing's not lighting. So he's in the tank with the mermaids, but he's like in boxers in that. What's the second body of water? When he falls into the pool. Falls into the pool. Oh, yeah, that one is cooked. There's no fucking way he's lighting the cigarette. Yeah. So all that whole pack of a wrap, they're soggy. They're falling apart. But they'll sometimes, sometimes. That's why we need the cigarette consultancy company. You just win. That's true. Sometimes you just win. And also he can't die. That's the revelation. Sequel, prequel, prestige, GVL, black cast are untouchables. So the idea you mentioned, Chris, was nice guys, two Mexican detectives. That's what Crow and Gosling wanted to do. That's a billion dollar idea. Come on. I also would accept if they did this the way that Netflix did Sherlock, where it's just like once every like three or four years, they just do a three episode thing. That would be awesome. Well, this has happened a couple of times in movies. And I'm pretty sure it happened in Anchorman, because I don't think Anchorman crushed it at the box office. But then became beloved over the next couple of years, to the point where we're like, why don't we do Anchorman 2? That'll fucking crush. This happened with Austin Powers too. Sure. The first one did okay. It wasn't great, but became a cult movie. And then 2 was a monster. I would just. Next guys 2 would just be bigger. It would be, but I would worry at this point, Crow might be a little long in the tooth to do it. I think the only reason that could work is because it is kind of the movie. They're so rundown that however many years past before they make it, it could kind of fit who these guys are. It's kind of sacrilege, but could you do this and not have them as the partners? I don't think it's the same. Could you have Gosling? Could you have Crow like retired getting sucked back in, but there's a new partner and there's three people on that too? No, I don't think it works. I hope not. And that's exactly what they would do. They would put a younger person with them. Who's in it? Who's the young? Is this like a Miles Teller? I wish I didn't bring this up. Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins, Fergie the Florist, Zane Lowe, Robert Lozier, or anybody else? What do you think they are? Zane Lowe, interviewing John Boy. Man, you're Jenny here from New York City. Everybody's talking about it here in the streets of Los Angeles. You're named after a Walton character, but what are you going to do to forge your own character? Sure, you have a mole. Sure. And some people would look at it as a handicap, but man, it's your power. I see that as your power. Again, South African. I can't stop making Zane Lowe South African. Maybe we should have you as Leo and Blood Diamond as Zane Lowe. Maybe you just combine the two. Get this one in another box. I don't know what to say. It's really something. Is Blood Diamond rewatchable for you? Didn't we do Blood Diamond? We didn't. 20 year anniversary. Wait a second. Yes, we did. Yeah, we have. Yeah, we've done Blood Diamond, dude. We have. Because the AIDS thing. Are you sure we did it? Yeah, we had a whole conversation about whether he's HIV positive in this movie. Hold on. I got to find out when we did it. Spoiler alert. Yes, Blood Diamond. We definitely did. It's June 2023. This is so in the bill zone of like, I don't remember this. No, but I don't remember. Oh, I usually don't remember 2000 and 2021 because the COVID vaccine. Sure. But I had 23, I remember. Not because you chose to podcast eight times a week during COVID. But else what are we going to do? Be with our family. Wow, we did that three years ago. Who do we do it with? I think it might have just been you and me. It was just the two of you. Yeah. Wow, I'm going to have to listen to that. That sounds great. I think I remember Sean's face when I told him we were doing Blood Diamond. And he's like, cool. Like Bum Daddy wasn't on it or thought it was. That must have been it. It probably was a little bit of both. But he was, and then I remember telling him like, yeah, Bill and I really tried to unpack whether Danny Archer has HIV in that movie. And I was like, cool. Glad I skipped that one. Yeah, now I remember it. God, which is so many podcasts for really are then 427, 28 rewatchables. Talking about Joel Embiid and Luca, whether he could put it together and Bama to bio scoring 83 points and all plans together. Who is the most name checks non Celtics player on the rewatchables? Do you think that's a really good question? Joel, I feel like might be up there just for the antagonism. The jokes. You're just you're just running once a month where he'll just be like, oh, this would be like if Embiid could actually play five games in a row. It's honestly probably Jordan, right? Yeah, I mentioned different like Jordan kind of parallels and things. Makes sense. It'd be interesting. Someday we'll have AI and we'll just be able to ask AI and it'll just listen to every rewatchables in one second and then be like, it was actually Shaquille O'Neal. And with nine mentions. AI will speak like Roger Ebert. Speak like Diamond Guy crossed with Zane Lowe. Yeah. Um, just want to ask her who gets it. Gosling. Gosling. Script. That's probably the second. It's really good. But I think a lot of what's great about this movie are his reactions. Like there's moments that wouldn't really jump off the page. Like when they go to the dive bar in the hotel and they are like, you know, have you seen Amelia and he's just like, I just work here. He's like, yeah, I know that's why I'm asking you. That's not like a hilarious thing on the page. But it's so funny, like the way they do it. He also chases every line. Every time that character thinks they're being smart, he like winks at somebody or does like a little eyebrow raise. It's just like, he sells everything so hard and so well. Do you like my friend? He's wearing a shirt. I made it myself. Is that a shirt? So KC Aflux wins for Manchester by the sea that year. Gosling nominated for La La Land. The other three were Denzel and Fences. Vigo Mortensen and Captain Fantastic. Get them out. So you want to go double Gosling? Double Gosling. Or Andrew Garfield and Hexaw Ridge. We were just, that one can go. What a drought. Yeah. That was like when Pajas Takovic was fourth in MVP that one year. Let's get Pajas numbers up. Pajas in the conversation. Pajas in the conversation. Pajas out. Where does his kid go? Doesn't his kid play now? Yeah, he's playing somewhere. In college. In college, or something. Yeah. So could Gosling potentially have been nominated twice? And has that ever happened? I know it has. I didn't think anyone's been in the same category with two movies. Did Leo not? I think he was, did he not for it, wasn't Blood Diamond and Catch Me If You Can the same year? No, it wasn't Same Year. It was Departed and... It was Departed and Blood Diamond. Did he not get double nominated for those? This is the same year? 2000? Is that... Not till this, so that would have been 2007. I think what's, it's happened a few times where somebody's gotten best and supporting. Yeah. But not too best. The most recent, Scarlett Johansson, Marriage Story and Jojo Rabbit was lead and supporting. Yeah. Leo only got one that year. Okay. Did you find out where Pages Thorek, if it's just kid goes to college? I think it's Illinois. Okay. I don't know, it could be wrong. You're 07 best actor in a supporting role, Alan Arkham won, Jackie Earl Hailey and Little Children. Yeah. Diamond Hunsu and Blood Diamond, Eddie Murphy, Dream Girls, and Mark Wahlberg in the Departed. Yeah. Fucking Lace King, motherfucker. We need to do the re-re-departed too. Apparently, I can't remember any podcasts we've done. Probably an answerable questions. How long did the nice guy's agency keep going before Jackson Hailey died of a massive heart attack? Right. Or like two years later? Like two years later, how did March get his child taken away by protective services? Imminent. Did we have protective services in the way it's happening? You're the only one that knows. Yeah, I don't. I don't feel like we did. Oh, I was left alone for four or five hours a day. I just found out relatively recently about kids being in car seats until there are certain weight now instead of age. So it's like you could be in a car seat until you're like seven or eight, right? Theoretically, that seems extreme. I was like rolling around the back of a Pontiac when I was like three. And you turned out great. I told Rob when we did the mail back for my pod that I wanted to put Khan in a car seat. I didn't want him to get hurt, but he's huge. Yeah. Couldn't really do it. The I used to, my dad would drive me home from school sometimes and I would get to sit like on his lap on the seat in front of him and drive. Yeah. And then one time I looked down and noticed his hand was on the bottom of the wheel when he was really driving. I was like, fuck, I thought I was driving. Yeah. This whole time I was like five. Would you. But can you imagine seeing anyone do that now where there's this little kid driving 30 miles an hour in the front seat with steering wheel like right there? Like, but that's what we did in the 70s. If it was to keep it the big dick from the back, let it go. Damn it. What's up? So a mail bag, a mail bag that we did that Rob didn't hear yet because we haven't run yet, but it was before this podcast. We changed the memorabilia question slightly to secret handshake memorabilia from the movie. So it's still the memorabilia from the movie, but it's an item that you have to really love the movie to get. So like a Misty Mountains poster. That would be good. Or maybe people would get that too easily. Well, a poster for how do you like my car, big boy? That would be one. Would be good. My personal one, which is a little bit more on the memorabilia side, but I kind of, if anybody knows, please email. I think they may have made it for the movie is the Navy blue mesh bat Dodgers hat that Gosling wears for the two scenes when he punches the window and when he's at the hospital. You think it was custom merch? I can't find a Navy blue Dodgers mesh hat 70s or otherwise. Maybe I'm wrong. Interesting. What do you have for this rap? Secret handshake one is tough because yeah, there's not a lot of signature items. I would go for the pink cow posted notes, which I'm going to then send everyone. I know anytime I have an important flight slash hotel room to mark on a piece of paper. Right. We're in business. I would love if you, it would be great if you could get a blow up poster of the Jackson and Holland's detective agency ad. Oh yeah. They'll be in all of its Filipino or maybe Mexican glory. That's right. Coach Finstack, Mr. Miyagi word for best worst life lesson, which people want at least one person wanting to be Coggins law from cocktail, which I guess this could be a Coggins law. Sometimes you just win. Yeah, you do. How about sometimes there's two ways to look at something? Best double feature choice. Would you go shame black? So I had just because it also brings in the Detroit part of a crime for a crime film is no sudden move, which is the Steven Soderbergh movie from a few years ago with Don Cheadle. Yeah, that's a great one. Kiss, kiss, bang, bang feels too easy almost. I like that angle. I would almost go like drama comedy. Like let's do like a Michael Clayton or a Pelican brief. Another like corporate conspiracy kind of movie like that. Speaking of kiss, kiss, bang, bang, chat is Val Kilmer son. I know. Jack Kilmer. Jack Kilmer. I have the other guys. I would have this first than the other guys. Okay. And just do guys, guys night. Guys night. Nice guys. Right. And other guys. And then we have Gosling winning the movie. We do. I think he has to. Yeah. Craig, you wanted this for a while. Yeah. This is just all timer for me. Probably I think it's the best comedy of the last 10 years since 2016. Not that there's a ton it's competing against, but I love the lethal weapon movies, which you guys introduced to me on the rewatchables. And like you said, the buddy cop, the dark action comedy, buddy cop comedy, I think is my number one favorite genre in movies. This movie in particular strikes a really delicate tone. It's pretty impressive that they kill Margaret Quali. Jessica gets thrown through a glass window. Yep. And there's no love interest in this movie, which I really like. Except for Tally briefly. Hold off. I'm written this down. Pour in his bag. He's like, when she walks through, he's like, you look great. Yeah. And then she throws a pair of scissors at him. And then she's like, Tally's head. So good. But I don't know. I love that. I love that it's just like about these two gods. There's no kiss at the end. It's perfect to me. I rewatched it every couple of years. Everybody I've watched it with likes it. It's just universally beloved. Fuck Angry Birds. I love that it can end to like Gosling welling up tears in his eyes, holding up the film reel. It's like sometimes you do just win. Like again, it's inexplicable. It's indefensible. But they lucked into it. We never did the what happened the next day with the film reel. Like, did they ever do anything with it? Like, was it was it a huge story? Was it a national story? Well, they say no one can. Basinger didn't face any consequences. She gets sent to prison, but the companies don't aren't held liable. Well, we should discuss this. The entire plan of making a porn movie that has a message in it to show it was auto show. All it's just a commercial element. It's a horrible plan. I mean, just like you have the information, send it to like a news station. Right. You'd expect like sometime in 77, they're still riding high off Watergate. Because they have a lot of David because Nixon's still in office. They're like, go to the cops and she's like, my mom is the cops. It's like, okay, you could find a journalist out there who would take a story and write about it and blow it up in the early times. They do ask her and she says that they control the media too. So come on. I like it because it's from the perspective of like stoned out market quality logic. Like that's the only mechanism that can solve this problem. It's also the movie takes. It's not like the messages in the very beginning of the porn movie either. Like you have to kind of sit down and watch it. Yeah. Which also makes no sense. But I do love the line. They made a porn where the plot is the point of the movie. Yeah. That's great. This was like the last era where they were making porn films where they're actually kind of go for it with the plot and with how they filmed it and actually spending money on it. Which as Boogie Knight's covered where Jack Horner is like really trying to make movies. And the idea that anybody is like an experimental filmmaker who's also doing these things. Ironically, we were texting about this yesterday about porn. The New Bev Cinema. That's right. Oh sure. Yeah literally. They're showing these like porn noir Friday nights or Saturday nights at Midnight. They were showing some movie. I thought it was a joke but it was real and I texted them and Van's like yeah they've been doing it all month. I'm not going to name any names. We do have a colleague who has attended some of these out of experimental curiosity. It is funny how you like Van was like kind of getting irritated where he's like you guys all treat me like a freak but you know as much as I do. He did. Started throwing porn scandals at us. Yeah so I'm going to guess that's a mostly male crowd. Couldn't tell you. No it wasn't it like didn't somebody say it was like couples or something like that? Yeah. No. Van. Van. I must have been Van. No way that's true. That's 40 guys by themselves and two couples. Yeah I'm here for the no it's a really important piece of cinema history. Well we're almost done with CR Months. CR. Yeah. One more. Any have you started to think big picture what this month meant to you and the love from the fans? I'm curious to see how you use me going forward you know from a coaching perspective. Yeah. You know like you now do you take me down a peg or two? Do you do you ice me? What do you do next with me? What do you mean you've been on like 70 to 75 percent of the episodes. No I know but now I'm riding high so do you. Well first of all I like that we save some for the next CR Month because when you know we have a year to plan this now with the festival and you know the merch all that stuff. The guy you can hire the guy to play the tree. The guy at the $20 big dick guy we'll have him there of all the characters for some of these movies. But yeah we left so we left Hunter for October. For October yeah. Nice. Maybe October maybe we just don't do it in October who knows. Okay yeah. Who knows if we'll do it or not. I'm just worried for you Chris. We saved aliens as well. Oh thank goodness. Those were the two that you talked about the most. There's been other ones but those have been other than the ones we've already done this. If you want to know like the other contenders were all like basically up in the brackets that we just did. I've noticed I don't always go into the comments but I did for the Instagram vote and some people were like fuck yeah sorcerer you motherfucker sorcerer has to win. Like people are like angry that anyone is voting for anything other than sorcerer. I think sorcerer is a passionate passionate fan base. Those were the CR heads the true CR heads those are sorcerer. Are you a sorcerer guy? Yes but not as a whole personality. I don't know how I missed it for 50 years. It's a real like a film nerd new classic. No I get it. Film bro new classic. But it's like obviously in my wheelhouse I just you know. It's only been a couple of years that it's looked as good as it looks now though. Is that what it is? Because I saw it at New Beverly and it was it was still a pretty beat up print and everybody was really pumped about it but like it's been a while it took a while for it to look as good as it looks. Was that a more male audience than the porn New Beverly screening you saw? It was a double feature so it was hard to tell. They should put that when they tweet out the movie that they should have an audience survey after and what the demo was. Yeah. Like I wonder if they've ever got a hundred percent dudes. Henry Portrait the serial killer like that kind of. I've been in some movies with a hundred percent dudes. Yeah the hundred percent dude. That's like soldado. That's like of the Ringer Fantasy football show demo every time I look at it. It's like 97. I watched it. Soldado again after we did. It's not bad. Sicario. I'm not going to I'm going to withhold judgment during CR month. It's not bad. It's tough. It's got some moments. Yeah. 2033 we're still kicking around. We're looking for movies to do. 2033. Very possible. Rob Mahoney thank you. CR a pleasure as always. Craig. Go have. Thank you. Back and rewatchables next week. L.A. Confidential which is on Netflix. Yes. Yeah. Is it? See if it. I don't know. Sure I think it is. L.A. Confidential is on. Yeah go ahead and check. Yeah. So and if not then we'll have to edit this out and do it. Set up a piece of it. But L.A. Confidential coming next week for for CR month. And don't forget we did a mail bag if you missed it last week as well. So yeah. No it's on there. I'm confident. L.A. Confidential. Netflix. It's not. It's not. It's not on there. No. It's on Amazon Prime. Damn it. Well we did just get acquired by Amazon Prime so that'll be fun. There you go. Okay. All right L.A. Confidential not on Netflix. Thanks everybody.