"Nick Kroll"

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Now I'm back with you. So I'm glad you could come today. And JB, we're having a little bit of an earlier start today. So I'm imagining your morning, because I know you bake in two hours, baseball season is on. So you're active on the trade front. You're managing your various leagues. Well, I've fast forwarded through the final six innings of last night's game. Right, right, sorry. You tape the games every night. Every one of them. I watch every single. And he watches them at like 5 AM. Why don't you watch them live? Well, I just don't get them done before I go to sleep. And so I finish them up the next morning. That's it. It helps me get out of bed. I've got the rest of the game to watch. That's a reason to wake up in the morning. Okay. So let me ask you a question. Do you fast forward in between each play? Yeah. I wait until at least one runner's on base. Preferably I like to get somebody to get to second base before I go to. I watch Wheel of Fortune the same way. Not even kidding. I'll fast forward through the picking of the letters until they get the puzzle kind of way down until it's something that you can figure out. Yeah, exactly. Sean, is that anybody ever get one, guess one so early that you just, it surprises you so much that you have a mistake with the canned cheese? Like, does it go all over your hand at that point? Like, oh. Or do you ever like point it to your temple? Like if you're trying to kill yourself, you know, and you just squeeze it all over the side of your face. Like what is it called? Cheese whiz? Yeah, that's it. Cheese whiz. So JB, so I know JB does a bacon. So he bakes in the time. So bacon is Dodger game speed through, right? And then as soon as it's over and not before, I then go to my scores, my points, how many points I've accrued on my fantasy base. Coffee, coffee is accompanying all of this. Coffee's very first. Very first. You know, I need to light the fuse. Sure. And it's a long fuse, so it needs time to burn down into the dynamite. For the bomb. For the bomb. You need to light the fuse with coffee. I know that's why I don't drink coffee, because I don't want to be dependent on it. Well, it's not that bad to depend on, you know, like you got a half hour TikTok until the dynamite gets hit and then off you go. You know, because if you don't have a fuse mechanism, you could find yourself leaving for your day and then you're out in the middle of the community. And you know what? The community. You usually smell something burning and you know, you got to get to a bunker. So, so. And that's unfortunate. All right. So we're back to baseball. I check my scores. Check your scores. And then I start doing my loop around the internet. And it's a pretty high-brow loop, you know, Will. I'm not digging around with gossip sites. Yeah. Yeah, I'm seeing what's going on and the dumpster fire. And actually it's funny to say that. So this morning I had that same thing where I woke up and I did my little games, my little crew, coffee, obviously company. And then. All right. So yeah. So you're your, you're baking. I'm still in that old. Yeah. So he's still doing whirtle, quartile and octuartle. Yeah. So that takes you and the gum is as good as it sounds. Sorry. So you're what, what, how long does it take you usually to do those three things? 20 minutes. It depends because the way we play it is the winner from the day before picks the starter word that you have to use for all three boards the next day. They've really mixed it up. Yeah. So wait, what happens yesterday's winner picks the starter word. The starter word that you have to use on all three boards the next day. Oh really? Yeah. What was the, yeah. So today's word was sadly. Uh-huh. Yeah. They always get you with an L-Y. And, and like, and you know, certain people like will pick Dickey words to fuck you over. And it fucks themselves over too. Sure. And a Dickey word would be something that doesn't really provide a lot of vowels or a lot of consonants. On Easter, on Easter, our pal put in bunny. Sure. Okay. From the night before. And it was like, it's festive, but B-U-N-N-Y is a desert when it comes to that. So it really messed this up. So today, so you do, so I do that, get that wrapped up. And then, uh- How'd you do today? You feel good about your sport? No, I did. I made it, I made it really. Here we go, Sean. This is why I'm planning on. I made it really, well, here, here was interesting. The day, the word from yesterday was sadly. And this morning it was a word on our turtle. So we all had a one. Oh, really? Which is rare. Yeah. And so, and then I was like, oh, I'm killing it. And I made one error on the third word on our turtle. Oh, you're doing okay. Good, Sean. Get him. What was your, what was your error you fucking moron? I don't even want to go into it. I actually, this is what a loser I am. I audibly went, no! Because the letter was already not supposed to be there. And I didn't, I had like a brain. It's incredible. Fucking, anyway. But what I was going to get to is, I, then I turned on the news. I looked at some of the news online. You know, do a little search around, same sort of thing. And it was such a bummer. And I thought to myself, and it's not the first time I thought, why am I starting myself out in a rut? I got, now I got a rally to die at this point. I'm so low. Right. I'm so, because the news is, as we know, so much of it is so depressing and so, and, and I thought, by the time I stopped looking at New York Times, Bloomberg, Washington Post, all these, I thought, what's the point? Right. I guess I'll. So then what's the, what the alternative is, is, is maybe tweaking your algorithm such that. Or just not, or not looking like. But what if you go to Instagram and it's, and you've, you've managed to get the algorithm pointed towards, you know, unicorns and, and rainbows and stuff, and you get uplifting messages and all that stuff. Sure. I think that that's positive for sure. But I think that actually what I, what I came to today was, I talked to Shawnee earlier after I got off the thing, and I talked to him, we talked about stuff, and it kind of, that was good as a palette cleanser. And then I was like, you know what, I think from now on, I should play my game, put my, my three games, put the phone down and do some, go outside like two days ago, because I was still a jet lag. I started my little walk that you've done with me before, a little bit. I started at six, 15. This is what the ankle weights, wrist weights, leg warmers and the weighted vest. Weighted vest. And high elbows, right? As you're going up the hill. Weighted, weighted vest. Weighted vest with, with, with a, with a visor and spiky hair. And you do one of the, one of the, sort of a face shield, one of those droopy masks to keep the sun off your skin. No, I've got, I've got pharmacy, like Florida sunglasses. You can put over your glasses, full around. Okay. I got Wattman headphones. Any sort of reflective material on your back so you don't get run over. No, no, no, no. Full sleeves, full sleeves. Lots of waves. Wait a minute. Three cars. So you can get walking less. Yeah. But to wrap it up, I think that's the way, because I feel like it was starting. Would you try meditation? Have you ever tried meditation? I have. I'd like to do, I'd like to do it more. Shutting the fuck up. Have you ever tried that? How about that? Huh? Let's get to the guests. Thank you, Sean. What do you got for us today? Wait, really quick. I'm, I ran, let's bring it, one last night. Did I go on too much? No, you did. Last night I was walking and I ran into, you know what a bollard is? One of those cement stoppers at the end of a street or a sidewalk. And it was like, no. Oh God, I ran into it. You walked into it? Yes. Oh, you're talking about something that's about Nard height, right? Yes, exactly. It's just a little higher than a fire hydrant. And it was painted black. Why do they have them on the corner of a sidewalk? So that people don't drive up. Sounds like your upper east side. It sounds, I know those black. No, no, it's after I ate at the Waverly Inn restaurant. So did you catch it right in the Nards? No, right above the knee and I couldn't. Oh man. Have that got hurt? Did you, did you call Great Encarter for a reservation? You did? Yeah. No, no, no. Oh, you did? No, no, I... Did Scotty throw you over his shoulder and walk you home? Basically, it was right in front of a taxi and we were saying goodbye and I was like, I ran right into the thing with my whole leg. Well, let's, okay. And I was just like, did we run? Great time. No, I just walked right into it. Yeah. No. All right, let's get to it. Ready? What's your step count today? I'm guessing 400. Sorry. My guest today accidentally taught his two-year-old son to say, I'm a coward, which made me laugh when I read that. He went to Georgetown and majored in history. His father's job included tracking the hidden fortune of dictators. After bombing at his first college comedy competition, the guy that won invited him to audition for a sketch show and that changed the course of his life. He's voiced about 80 animated characters, for real. And the kid he met on the first day of first grade became his best friend and creative partner, helping turn their own humiliating stories about puberty into one of Netflix's longest running scripted originals. It's the insanely funny, and super talented, Nick Kroll. Oh, Nick! Nick Kroll. Get out here. Hey, boys. Nick Kroll. Oh, he's going to take it down. I have not spoken yet today, and I'm listening to my voice. That was the first thing I've said all day. Wouldn't it be amazing if we all had a word limit each day? Yeah. Like, if every person that you could... For you, it would be, yeah. Yeah. Hey. But could you imagine if you had to budget out your words for the day? That would be pretty interesting. That would be cool. That would be cool. Man, when you come up with some fun ideas... Nick, you are East Coast, because you've already got a smart-looking jacket on. I'm on the West Coast. I was debating on taking the jacket off before, but I'm dealing with what you guys are seeing is this center stage video where I'm going to be constantly... Oh, yeah. Yeah, the camera's going to be following me. You can turn that off. You can turn it off if you want. I know I can. I can't figure out how. Wait, why do you look so damn good already this morning? You got a short jacket on? Yeah. You got a short jacket. You got a callback earlier? I got... Yeah, it's a Lipton Cup of Soup. It's a 3 p.m. slump. And did you crush it? I felt good. I felt really good in the room. Any feedback yet? Yeah, supposedly they wanted a better-looking and older. Oh. So... Oh, but you are in the running in case they can't find that. Oh. Yeah, so you guys are honestly... We're the demo. Telsie's calling, guys. Nick Kroll, what's up, man? It's been a long time. How are you? I'm great. It's really good to see you guys. Likewise. It's good to see you. Nick, the first time I met you was, I think, was at Ted Saranis' a couple of years ago at the Grammy dinner thing. Yes. Right? What were you two doing at a Grammy dinner? At the Grammy, yeah. It was like for the comedy category. And we were doing a duet. It was a Bette Midler and Barry Mantle thing. And they had us play for a few minutes. Who played that? Right, right. No, but you were so kind and I immediately felt this rhythm with you. And I was like, oh, I'd love to get to know you more. Careful, Mike. Yeah, here we go. Yeah, so that's his help. That was awesome. Fuck it, this is unbelievable. Every time I felt a connection with you, Johnny. Let me get put your number in the chat. Fuck it, are you joking? Come on, the pod. You should come on the pod some time. Let's go for lunch and wrap up how we think we did. I'm close by. Hi. What's your story later? Because you should come on the pod. The boys let me make the choices on this all the time. Yeah, I'd love to make the choices. You're so smart and funny and handsome and... Let's go on a run. You want to go for a run? Let's go on a run. Wait, let's go on a run. That is the way. So that was the first time that you guys had met? I actually met you many, many, many years earlier. There was a guy who used to do a treasure hunt around LA. Oh, yes. We have to do a... About the JP Manu. Yes. You're talking about the larve? I don't know if that's what it was. No, it was before Amazing Race. I remember that. And it was just like the Amazing Race. And this guy organized just a bunch of people to go do this around Los Angeles. It was really fun. Yeah, so you were there and you... Like, I was just sort of starting and you were one of the most famous people in the world. In that group of five. And so I saw you and I said, one day they're going to make podcasts. And I'm going to hit on him at Ted Sarando's party. Wait a second. You're skipping over the You Predicted podcasts. Why, that's just... No, but we had to get to Madame Tussauds to find out. That's right. That's true. That's true. Why have those got... Oh, wait, so... JB, do you remember in the 90s, these guys had a game going for a while? It was called LARF and they were both out of Stanford. No, there was another one where we went around and everybody had a squirt gun. And it was like a game of tag around LA. I did that as a kid. I did that as my daughter does that as senior assassin. All these actors, when we were in our 20s and the 90s in LA, remember being out here for pilot season, mid-90s, and somebody's saying, do you want to get in this thing? And people would be like at an audition at Warner Brothers and some dude would come out of nowhere and spray him and like... You're in. And I was like, can you imagine walking onto a lot now with a water gun? So at Franny's school, so it's senior assassin, if you get hit with a water gun, you're out. And the only way that you can sort of protect yourself and notculate yourself from getting some sort of a surprise hit is wearing swim goggles out in public all day, every day, or swim floaties. So you see like these students are all around town like markets and shoppies and it's really funny. It's pretty cool. But the scavenger hunts things, these high-end scavenger hunts, I'm pissed that they've gone away. We should resurrect that. Let's do it. Celebrity scavenger hunt. Let's do it, guys. You guys have a lot of free time. Do you want to start getting into... Let's do organizing local city scavenger hunts. I'm going to organize it for you. Nick Kroll, let's get into it. First of all, thanks for being here. And I did mean that. It just felt like a comedy connection with you. You were very funny right off the bat and I felt like I'd known you. But anyway, he's a nice guy and he's funny. What's not to get a rhythm with? So wait, is that true 80 voices? 80, 80. I think so. And like if I threw out names, could you... You don't want to do that. I probably could. I mean, I'm a monkey. I'll give you what you need. Let's get those numbers, folks. I'm going to do a look at where to gunter from sing and sing too. Oh yeah, this is gunter from sing. It's not your p.d. power. Okay, what about... Nothing makes me laugh quicker than a German accent. It's... Okay, what about douche from sausage party? Douche was... Oh, come at me, bro. It was that sort of... That guy. No, but wait, no, but wait. Do douche from sausage party. Okay, so wait. So douche from sausage party, we did that's the Rogan movie and they... I did the whole thing as like a sort of a British villain, like a, you know, the classic Disney British, like Jafar kind of voice and then... Or like a scar from Lion King. And it just wasn't working. And we did one last record where they rewrote it as that character who was kind of a... This character did Bobby Bottleservice, who was kind of... Yeah. I remember Bobby Bottleservice. Wait, Nick, you did your... You did, Nick, you did your series on Netflix. Big mouth? Big mouth. Yeah, that's awesome. So we got to clear the air on this. Do you know what I'm getting in? Yes, of course. Of course. What? So we've never talked about it. So for years, people have come into me, hit me in the thing, talked to me in real life. I've been in line at the store. Do you do the voice of... There's a character on your show that people thought was me. His name is Mori, the hormone monster. Is that what it is? Everybody thinks it's Arnett. I can't tell you how many people have... And that's you, Nick? It's me. And it's Nick Dilling, Arnett. No, it's... I mean, this is... Okay, so here's the backstory here. Let's clear the air on this. Let's clear it finally. Yeah. Let's finally. So we did the show Big Mouth. It's about kids going through puberty. And my friend, Andrew Goldberg, who Sean mentioned, I met in first grade, we created the show together. He had been a family guy for years. We've been friends forever. And he and Mark and Jen, our other partners, came to me with an idea about an animated show about kids, about me and Andrew at 13, going through puberty. And immediately it was like, great, this makes... I really see this show. So we started working on it and Andrew started talking. And he's like, you know, and like, I think my guy, who he was a really early developer, he just hit puberty at like five. And had a full beard by eight, you know? And he was sort of like, I think my character was like, something encourages him to jerk off. Like he's got like a hormone monster. And I immediately was literally immediately was like, touch yourself, Andrew. And it was like, that was the voice. Because I'd been doing this guy, I'd been doing this guy, Nash Ricky, I had a sketch show called Colchol's Show. And Nash Ricky was sort of like a hair metal guy, who was also like had OCD and... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, was Pete Giles part of that? Yes, Pete Giles was part of that. Yeah. We had a song called LA Deli. And it was just about all the delis in LA, like California girls. Because all those guys like hung out at, you know, fucking cantors and all this. Anyway, so I did this voice, Nash Ricky. So I then we go to do Big Mouth, we develop it, we make it, it comes out. I've known Will forever. Will is on the air with Bojack at this like so... The same time, Bojack is like the premiere, fucking animated show. It never crossed my mind that anyone would be like, is that our net? And then we start the show and it works. And everybody's like... Can't believe you got our net. Sound like our net. I, Nick, I'm honestly, I can't tell you how many people over the years I'm like, no, it's not. I think it's, I didn't know if it was you, but I was like, I think it's Kroll. Is that show still going? No, we did eight, we did eight seasons. Wow, that's remarkable. And that's incredible. Yeah, we'll have done, we did more of those than basically any other scripted Netflix show, I think besides Ozark. How many of you guys done it now? 140? It just fell 140. It felt like 140. No, it was four and a half maybe seasons. Yeah, it's still anyway. So we did it and we're about to put out a new show called Mating Season. It's the same team who made it. That looks so great. What's a premiere on that, Sean? What's a premiere date? Oh God, you, wait, I need to look it up. I jumped it. I jumped it. You have to scroll tight on the bottom. Later, scrolling, scrolling. When is it, Nick? Hey, I'm so sorry. Check the chat. Maybe Michael Grant Terry sent it to you. Oh my God, I can tell you. It's, I don't even know. Double back at the end, Sean. Okay. We'll be right back. This is a paid ad by BetterHelp. If you've been feeling overwhelmed, stuck, anxious, or unsure, that is okay. Those feelings are more common than we think. Whatever you're going through, you don't have to go through it alone. Having someone with you to listen and understand can make all the difference. Whatever is keeping you up at night, therapy with BetterHelp can provide you with tools to help you check in with yourself and gain support from experienced professionals. BetterHelp is the world's largest online therapy platform. 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Yes, I think that would make sense. Like early 2000s, and you were so funny. It was one of those, like the first time I saw you, it was like, oh, this dude is fucking hilarious. Thank you. Like right out of the gate. Yeah, so funny. And then you just went on to do what I love is that you went on, and you and Malini did so much cool stuff. You did a show on Broadway. You did sketches, you did sketch shows. You've just done, what I love is how many different kinds of things you have done. You do stand up, you do all of it. And is there, now at this point, do you go like, oh, it feels too spread, I want to concentrate on this because I know you just did a stand up special. Yeah. I just watched it. It's so good. Is that kind of where you want to go, or do you feel like you still want to just do millions of different things? I mean, I like what I'm shooting for is like a B minus across the board. Shoot for a B minus, you can do so much. You can really, you can really, you can really, you can really, you don't shoot too high. You stay general and broad, and then nobody can attack you for fully committing to anything. That's such a great call. Oh, I know that. It's all about longevity. It's all about just staying right in the middle for as long as possible, and then they can't don't get too tall. Wait, wait, the three of us, JB, you, me, and Carl, did that animated show with Mitch Hurwitz. Sit down, shut up. Sit down, shut up. My, that was very, yeah, that was, it was literally right after arrested, and that it was us and Forte. Forte. I want to watch that again. I remember the animation being. What a cast that had. Yeah, I'm playing a character I would not currently play anything. Copy that. Copy that. Oh, let's let Kase explain. His name was Andrew Legustambos, and it was a Legustambos. He liked, he was a bisexual Latin teacher. Yeah. Do you think, I love that you remember his name. No, but literally, if you started that today, do you think that today's culture would attack as much as it did, let's say even six months to a year ago? No, I think everything is, I feel like things are kind of settling. I mean, I don't think I would play that character right now, but I, but I, but I do think things are settling a bit, like all of that stuff that I think you're, we're finding a different levels now to it, you know. Right, right. Yeah, I think so too. And I wonder why, I mean, the issues haven't gone away, but maybe the, the, the, the tolerance and the exploration of finding humor in things that are more challenging is, is, is more around. I don't know. I think there's a general, I mean, I think there's polarizing views of it, but I think there's a general attempt to be more thoughtful about what we're doing or how we're doing it. And if you're generally more thoughtful, then I think there's more, little more room for different versions of people playing different versions of people. I think in that way, you know, I think also there's, there's a, we have to pay more attention to intent, you know, and, and if the intent is to injure or to sideline or to, to, to minimize, then there's no room for it. And I think that for our personal friendships, right? And family and family. Exactly. Let's leave family out of it. Wait. So Nick, when you first started out, I mentioned in the intro, you, you, you bombed freshman year in comedy competition and the guy who won and then gave you the opportunity was Mike Verbiglia, right? Yes. No way. No way. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. I mean, that's crazy. Where was this? It was at Georgetown. We did this thing called the funniest to act on campus and I'd never done comedy before in any real capacity and there were, you know, it's like flyers up and I went and did it. I was really nervous about it and I just, I showed up and my whole bit was that I was going to get on stage and go, you know, I thought I'd be so nervous, but I'm super relaxed and then I was going to piss my pants like that. That's a great bit. It's a good bit. It's a really good bit. It was, except I did not prepare. I got, I was like, you know, I was a freshman college. You had drinking water? Yeah. I was like, I had drank and like, you know, I was just like so nervous that I showed up and I had not, I had not, I was going to bring like a water balloon and a pen and like pop the water. You know what I mean? I thought I didn't, so, but I forgot all of it. So I grabbed like a empty, a sandwich bag in the trash and grabbed a pen and just got on stage and just like jammed over the pen into this like water bag in my pocket. So it just looked like I was jerking off on stage basically, which is what I've been doing ever since. But Mike, Mike won, Mike had like a solid five minutes as like a sophomore and he won the competition and got to start hosting at the DC improv. And then he was doing a sketch show later that year and invited me to audition and I did that audition and then got cast and we went to like a kid's apartment on campus and read all these sketches. And I like, it was truly the one time in my life I walked out of that thing. I was like, this is it. Yeah. This is all, this is it. This is what I want to do. Because what were you, what were you studying at Georgetown at the time? I was studying history and minoring in art and Spanish, just kind of like coasting, coasting on privilege. That was getting goosey. Yeah. Waiting, waiting for something to hit you to do or were you going to make a career out of history? I was gonna, I don't know. I think I was just, I truly was coasting. I liked history because I think I liked telling stories, but I think I was still scared to like write. So English wasn't, didn't feel entirely safe and then we started doing, and so we auditioned for that sketch show and we literally then went at the, we did our sketch, it was like, we rehearsed for three months to do one night in Bulldog Alley on campus. And then, and at the show was, I mean, we bombed, but I met all these guys who I continued to know and work with still, including Brabiglia. And then UCB was just about to come on the air and they came down to GW and did a show at GW. It was like a big improv festival. And it was the first time I saw those guys and I, my mind fully exploded. Did they do Bucket of Truth? Were they doing that? Bucket of Truth and we, it was, it was Little Donnie, remember Little Donnie's? It was like Besser at the sketches, Little Kid with a huge, huge guy. And, but I saw that and then, and then moved to the city that summer, or started going to the city. We did it at a workshop at UCB and, and, Will, you know Owen Burke, you guys all know Owen. Owen was my brother's roommate in college and Owen started, had just started at UCB. So I started going to UCB, started going to Ask Cat as a fan, you know, as like, and could not believe what I was seeing. I agree. I had the same, first of all, I had the same sensation. I saw them do Bucket of Truth in 1996. They just moved from Chicago. Can you tell me what Bucket of Truth is? So it was a sketch show that they did. And, and they, they did it downstairs at the West Bank on 42nd Street, the restaurant. They had that little space down there. And I was like, what? And it was Walsh and Amy and Besser and, and, and Ian Roberts. And I was like, what the fuck? Like watching what these guys did. So I loved it. And then they, they started doing it. They started doing Ask Cat at that other place, solo arts on 17th Street before they moved into their theater. And I would go every Sunday and JB, you remember my old roommate, Duff. I had lived with Duff. I've been roommates years, but you know Duff too, right? I know Duff. Yeah. A little bit through Owen and through Owen. And so I said to, oh, I said to Owen and Duff, I go, you guys got it. I said, let's go to this thing and see these guys. And Owen came along to, I brought him to his first UCB show and he ended up as artistic director of UCB. Yeah. Is that wild? Yeah. Yeah. That is wild. Funny, good man. And, and that was sort of, so I started coming and we would go and I, and I was, you know, I went to solo arts once or twice since all those shows and then would go to the theater at 22nd Street and like sit on the side, you know, wait and sit on the side and look up. And it was like all these people, you know, who were, you know, who were just popping on Conan and, Oh, it's like Glazer and Tina and McKay would be there and all those guys. Just was like it, and as soon as I literally, as soon as I saw it, the first is did that sketch, little sketch show and then joined the improv group, my sophomore year was like, done, I'll do back to sort of what you're saying. I was like, I'll do anything. Get me, get me close to this. I'll do anything. But, but to speak more about, you know, because I'm just, I'm most fascinated with people at that age where you need to, or you think you need to commit to a career and you have to really think about making rent and feeding yourself and like you're, you're out from the nest at home. And, and so you're at this opportunity at an incredible university. You're, you haven't really picked an occupation, an industry, a path. At what point did you feel like, oh, okay, there's enough momentum going in this lane where I need not continue to consider other means of support? Well, for me, after Silver Spoon, I just wanted to have fun. Spoon, you know what I mean? This is why I'm so curious about it. Cause it was like, I'd had this momentum since I was a little kid, but I, I still at 18, I thought, well, is it ever, is it going to last? I, maybe I should, I should study something else. It's a little bit more reliable. Well, so, so going back, so the other thing, my connection to Jason a bit is that you, you're originally from Rye, right? Or your family. So I'm from Rye, New York. Oh, no way. Yeah. So, um, you know, I grew up with plenty of privilege. So I went to, I never had like the privilege was that I could sort of be like, what do I want to do? And I went to college and I started, and I, you know, school was never exactly my thing. I was fine at it. But as soon as I started doing improv and comedy and sketch, I was like, I'll do anything. Like I'll print, you know, like I'll go anywhere at any hour to get this done. And when I moved to New York, I had, I did have the, the real, the privilege of knowing that I could fall back. Like if it didn't work, I could go get a job somewhere. Like I was, it was going to be okay. But it was the thing I feel so lucky about is that I had such a clear, I knew, I wanted, I knew as soon as I started doing it, this is all I wanted to do. And any work now, the question of whether I was going to make it is the intangible. But I think the idea for me was like, well, I'm going to regret the fuck out of this. If I don't try. Right. You recognize that it was something that really fed your soul, that you were decent at it. You liked the, the adaboys and it was sort of self perpetuated. Yeah. And it's never, it's never waned in, at least for me. Which is interesting because, which is interesting because JB, you do have that as well. At the same time, this was, this was your thing since before you can remember doing anything else really, since you were a little kid, there was never like, hey, I'm going to try my hand at this. You were in it. You were always in it. Right. I mean, I don't need to say that you, yeah, I'm telling you, I'm not saying that you didn't have a choice, but that was your, in a lot of ways, it was your job. It became your passion. Yeah. I, I, I had, I had realized that I was halfway decent at something before I needed to have something that I was halfway decent at. And so that was, that was a, Yeah. And, and I think for you, so, so on that, And you were cute as a button. If I could, Hey, Nick, stop it. God, were you cute. Let's get our rhythm going. Never in the chat. Never in the chat. Oh no. Never in the chat. Oh no. Not another rhythm connection. I run too. You guys, enough. But JB, you had that, that second gear for you. The thing that you found was when directing and seeing you light up at this stage of your life, when you talk about directing is the same way. I think that I certainly did a Nick the way you describe it, discovering this thing where you go, I love this. I got to do this. I'll print flyers. I'll do whatever it takes. True. You kind of have it for directing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Like 10, 12 years ago or 15 years ago. Right. And if, and like anyone out there, you know, if, if you, if you were lucky enough to get paid a little bit to do something that you would pay somebody else to do, right? Because you, you, you love it so much. That's the sort of fuel that can really travel you into success and longevity and instead of just punching a clock, you know, if it's something that really is passionate. Nick, just quickly, did you do, because you worked with a lot of great people. We mentioned Mitch Hurwitz and obviously Malini. You've had a lot of great partners and, and Colline Readers. Another funny dude that we know that we all connect with is John Levenstein who worked on a call show. Yeah. Super, super funny. One of the funniest, most bizarre men in the world. I know. Sweetest men too. And honestly, I just have to say it since we just mentioned that The Curl Show is one of my favorite shows of all time. Thank you, John. Like truly, I mean. So, it's so funny. And Levenstein was a big part of that, right? Yeah. He was the, I'm, he was the show runner and he had come, we hired, I mean, I met him doing this cartoon called Life in Times of Tim. Oh yeah. That ended up on HBO. That was like, and Giles, that's how I met Giles. Also with P. Giles. Yeah. That's how I met Giles originally. Sweet P. Giles. Yeah. And one of the great voices. Talk about, you think we got some gravel. That motherfucker. P. Giles. You can catch him. You can hear him every once in a while. Yeah. You know where he is. It's the World Series on Fox. P. Giles. So it is, yeah, I mean, I, hey, by the way, Jason, I'm so sorry Zootopia didn't work out. Yeah. But yeah, next time on the Vio Stuff, they can't all be winners on the Vio. I do, I do envy what you guys can do with Vio. I still feel like I'm just leaving voicemail messages. I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing. Jason, oh, Jason, I forgot to tell you last week I was, I was out East and I was with, out for dinner with my little guy, Denny, who's five. And there's a couple sitting next to us and they're talking about, and they've got like a seven year old girl and they're talking about Zootopia. And my guy, Denny, goes, I saw Zootopia too. And they're like, we love Zootopia too. And he goes, and he comes over and he goes, dad, can I tell him? I go tell him, and he goes, about Jason. And I go, sure. And he goes, my, my dad's friend, Jason, is the voice of Nick. He's, my son is five. It was so sweet. How about, I'm just excited that he knows my name. I know. I know. I love that. I love that little guy. Isn't that sweet? I love that. Nick, can I ask about growing up because we touched on that a little bit. And I think it's fascinating. When I read this, I laughed out loud that you grew up in Rye, New York, and your parents sent a limo to pick you up from school. Is that, is that every day? No, no, no. Every once in a while. When you're good. So it wasn't, uh, you know, it really made me laugh out loud when I read that. I'm like, is that true? Yeah. It was like different strokes, right? Like you just, exactly. It's true. Well, what happened to all those limos? You remember we used to see stretch limos everywhere? Everywhere. Where did they go? I kind of thought about bringing it back this year when we went to the big word show the other. Oh my God. The boys were so funny. I thought wouldn't it be funny to pull up to like the Academy Awards in a white stretch limo? Oh my God. I want to know where they went literally like, I guess scrap metal yards or do they put them They're waymos now. They're all waymos. They're all, they're all. Send them to Eastern Europe. Wait, so Nick, I mean you would be. They're all playing in Europe. You talked to them. You talked to them all playing in Europe. That's a great joke. So you had to, there were occasions where you had to be driven to school. It just is what it is. My dad, my dad, it's like the internet, the internet is real loves loves to speculate on on my dad, his business, fascinating business, fascinating and built incredible business. Do you guys, Jay, do you know about his dad? No. Please. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't either. And when I read about it, Nick, I understood 10% of it. So can you please explain it to them? Arms dealer, drug dealer, what is it? Consultants. He deals drugs. He dealt drugs to arms dealers. Got it. Got it. That's lucrative. Because it's too different. It's, you know, you got to find the guy who's going to come in between them. Was that what that Jonah Hill movie was about? Those guys remember the movie? Oh yeah, I like that movie. With Nick Cage. War Dogs. Yeah. Oh, yes, War Dogs. Was that, is that what they were doing? I want to see that. But so anyway, he built this, he sort of did, the larger umbrella would be like risk mitigation. So like it started as like corporate investigations due diligence. And during the 80s, it was like Wall Street takeover private, all those like hostile takeovers, like doing of all like Ivan Boski and all those kinds of characters. And then it was dictators like Saddam, like the Kuwaiti government hired him to find Saddam Hussein's money. And baby Dr. Valier and Haiti and the Marcos. Hello, baby Dr. Valier. Now you're really going into it. Me and Mulaney were trying to write a movie. Baby Doc handles Kimmel handles Fallon handles Little Bear. James Dixon, Baby Doll. That's Baby Doll. That's Baby Doll James. Wait a second, Nick, now that I think, did Duff write a book about your dad's company? He may have, yes. I think he did. Yes. And so he and then he, you know, he's gone on to continue to sort of work in various versions of that business. And he and my brother have a company called K2 now, which continues to do different versions of investigations and risk mitigation and security stuff. And they make skis too. And they make great skis. I know everybody out there likes slalom. Slalom. Hey, but Nick, you know, I do want to say that I'm glad you talked about it because you didn't decide how, what your dad did or how you were born or what. And your dad started a company and he was successful at what he did. And so I like that you just, you talk about it openly because what the fuck are you going to do? Yeah. Right? You don't need to apologize. The internet will find you. No, I know. But why, you don't need to apologize for where you came from. What are you supposed to do? Right. Exactly. Thank you. Yeah. I mean, no, but it is, I just got, I mean, I feel like I got real lucky. I got dealt a real good hand. Of course you did. But you, and as I've said, I've known you 20, 25 years, you work really hard. You create a lot of stuff. You create a lot of stuff on your own. You didn't have family in show business. And you did it all through hard work and talent. So, you know, fuck everybody. Yeah. But he sounds, yeah, that sounds really fascinating. Like, get them to investigate Bateman, please. The kinds of, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, just look into it. Just look into it. But Jason, why do you keep going to Grand Cayman? Answer that. Listen, these people are so kind. You're doing the firm cosplay. But yeah, the kind of connections and know how he's got. Yeah. It's just, ooh, that's like up there with, if I could pick a new career, if I could go back in time, if I was like 17, and I would like to get recruited by the CIA. I would like to be. Oh, yeah. You have, you have CIA vibes written all over your spot. I would love to be somebody in my mid 50s, like, well, I'm in the middle of my late 50s now, that is still, like, I would like to be able to hold that secret from, because you're not supposed to be able to tell your wife or your, yeah. Right? I mean, if you're really good. You want to hold more secrets from your family? Yeah, I've got a little more room. I found a little more room on my drive. Wait, Jimmy, we just went through your morning routine. You think that you're CIA ready? Are you fucking kidding? No, that's what you do in the CIA. You watch the end of a Dodger game. Yeah. No way this guy's a spy. Look how dummy is. They're like, how do we kill that Bateman agent? Is that the golf club? We'll be right back. Keep the cuddles and lose the mess with Advantage Chewable. Just one tasty tablet kills fleas and ticks for a whole month. No mess, no stress. Just one tasty chew. Advantage Chewable. Flee and tick protection made easy. Find out more at advantagechewable.co.uk. Easy to love, easy to protect. Advantage Chewable. And now back to the show. Where are you going to say, Nick, were you going to say you and Malaney were working on a script about it or no? Was that what you were going to say? We were working on a script. We sold a movie called Most Glorious Friend. And it was, you know those Nigerian email, Prince email scams? Yeah. Well, we were the premise. They're fucking scams? Oh, Willie. This, the premise of the movie was like this was the, this time it was real. And it was going to be Tracy Morgan as the deposed dictator of a country called Lyrobia. And his name is Lil Mo. And that was so like a bunch of couple college kids respond to the email. And then like Tracy Morgan shows up being like, where's my money? And we pitched it out. Can I have that script? It's so, it was genuinely very, I mean, I was probably structurally, I mean, we had no idea we're doing, we just sat there reading Save the Cat by the chapter and then trying to write off of that. Save the Cat is a screenwriting book. So that's so fun. That's such a fun taking, Sher and I worked on this thing years ago, Mike Sher, we called the ambassador about basically he's too dumb to kill. He's the son of the senator. They make him envoy to the EU to ruin all their trade deals. And then he's like getting chased like born, but he doesn't realize he's being like, he's being chased. He keeps going, go around. You both, all three of you guys could be spies. You guys should be like fifties, the worst spies post Cold War spies. Right. They're like being like, spies like you. Spies like us. Yeah. Spies like us. But there's a, it's just, it's just how it's pronounced at the end. Wait. So this, this made me laugh too, because big mouth, big mouth is about, like you said, you and your friend, Puberty, 13 years old, but I read your sister Vanessa is now a professional puberty educator. What does that even mean? What does that mean? So yeah, my sister Vanessa is a, yeah, she became an expert in puberty. She started a thing called Dynamo Girl a number of years ago. And it's like after school program for sports for girls. And then as she was teaching these young girls, like they, as they got older and started going through puberty, she realized that there was just a ton of, there was just like a empty spot in that and sort of the education around that and like having parents and kids understand what's going on. So, I mean, it's crazy synergy, but I think it just speaks through a little bit of, I guess our experience, you know, she's two years older than me of going through that period of life together. It was of interest. Like we had those books, you like what's happening to me, you know, those like groovy 70s books with like body drawings of the body. And so we were there, got it to me, Margaret. Yeah, like all of that stuff, I think, loon large for us. And so it became an interest for both of us. She's, and she's like, so she's kind of a writing about parenting and that kind of stuff. She's got four kids. And then is she the one who's the one married to the man at one of the men in blazers? That's my sister Vanessa is married to Roger Bennett from men in blazers. Oh, wow. Yeah, I know those. I love those girls. Yeah, that's cool. And all your siblings, if there's four of you, are you all funny people? Like, are you all? I think so. I don't know how it works in your family, but like, I think it's pretty rare that someone comes out of a family that isn't, if they're funny, that isn't also funny. Right, right. My brother's really funny and my sister's, yeah, I think there was in the family, there was a sense of humor. Did you guys get it from mom or dad? They're both pretty funny. My dad's funny. And my mom's got a very good sense of humor, especially having to do with me tell jokes about moms. Like she, you know, she's like, people tell me am I upset about the jokes about moms? And I'd say I'm not. They're both fair and all. Fair and all. Yeah. They're funny. But no, it's a funny family, I think. But I think, but me kind of being like, no, I'm going to go be a comedian. Everyone was like, huh. There was definitely, it wasn't like, well, of course you're going to, you know. You know, Jim, you know, Jimmy Valilly. Yes. Jimmy Valilly used to have. Another vet leavens, another rested guy. Yeah, another rested. The great Jimmy Valilly, who's one of the all time funniest and has jokes that nobody else can think of that are just so, God, I fucking love Jimmy Valilly. Anyway, he used to always say, he'd say like, you know, if you come, he was talking about something, he said, yeah, this guy sort of came from a good family. He goes, he had more to lose. And I go, what do you mean? He goes, well, in a way he could have gone into be, he could have been a lawyer. He could have been, he went to a good school and stuff. And he risked it all to do this. If you come from nothing, you got nothing to lose. A hundred percent. Right. And I go, and I was like, oh, that's interesting. I never, I never, I never looked that way. It's so true. Yeah. Well, Nick, you're so multi-talented and you've done so many different jobs in the structure of things. What, how do you decide what to do next? And like, what would the perfect next five years look like? I mean, I don't know how strategic you are. I imagine, and I don't mean that as a pejorative, you know, like it takes a certain amount of planning to get things done in this business. Yeah. I mean, you got, look, he's got roommates out April 17th. He's got mating season on May 22nd. Sean found the file. Sean finally got it. Sean finally found the email. You're about 100% with Sam Richardson and Benessabur. And that's another Netflix. I mean, you have tons of stuff coming out. It's so exciting. By the way, Nick, you need to know that Scotty was just off camera going, I just bumped it up in your email. Okay, so just... He just held up. He just held up. Scotty was like, do you want me to stop warming up, Kate? Hotmail.com backslash mail. We actually met it on Hotmail. Anyway, so that's just a little joke. Just a small joke. It wasn't Serrano's party. It was on Hotmail. Yeah, and there just felt like a comedy connection there. So my strategy is I keep... And I feel like, honestly, you guys also do a lot and produce a lot. I keep a number of balls in the air that are all at different stages of development. I think I like this show. Mating season is the follow-up to Big Mouth, and it's about animals dating and falling in love in the woods. So it feels like a natural sort of progression of that. And I've been working with my partners, Mark and Andrew and Jen on that. It's me, Zach Woods, June, Diane, Rayfield, and Sabrina Jalisse. It's like a fun hangout kind of in the vein of like an animated version of Friends or... I can't remember any of those other NBC shows, Busty TV, but you know that sort of... That genre. No, I mean, none really stuck. Oh, sorry, Phil. There were signs on that. Yes, I felt... Wings, Wings, you're thinking of wings. Wings was great. I loved Wings. Wings was a big influence. The single guy. You're thinking of single guy. Single guy, of course, the single guy. Single guy, that's what you were thinking of. Yeah, Caroline in the city. Oh, wait, but then there was that show with the gay guys. Two guys in a pizza place. Who's the buddies? That was ABC. Frasier, Frasier. And that's about it. I guess that was that must-see TV stuff. But wrap that up. But you're like in this ideal position of really kind of being your own boss and self-perpetuating and you've got this great sort of troop of collaborators and colleagues and... For sure. Right? Is it as ideal as it sounds? It really, honestly, I really feel it right now. It really is. I feel incredibly... It's at a time when the business is tricky and things are going away and there's contraction. And the fact that I'm currently getting to make a bunch of different things is... It feels amazing. Like, and I'm writing right now. We're writing 100% here in LA and it's me, Manzuchus. Jason Manzuchus, Sam Richardson, Vanessa Bayer. And it's in the world of kind of like self-help influencer gurus. So we're writing that. We're going to shoot over the summer. And then I'm producing some other stuff, animated and live action. So it's great. The strategy you were talking about, Jason, I have two kids. I have a five-year-old and a two-and-a-half-year-old. No way. That's the stuff that starts to play into like how do we... How do I do this and how do I be also like home and around and involved so that... So the opportunities, it's like how can I set myself up as well as I can for opportunities that I get to have some modicum of control over. Right. And be in Los Angeles too. Right. Right. And that's what you guys do. Right now they can travel with you, but assume that five-year-old is going to be stuck in school and you won't be able to pop around. He doesn't want to be. If it's any consolation, he doesn't want to be in school. So we might... Does he want to be home schooled or he's just like... He wants to kite surf. He just wants to do it. You know what I mean? That's dope. He likes to free solo. He saw that free solo doc and he just wants to go flying. That's hilarious. That's very dangerous, Dick, for a child. I know. I know. We got to let them, but we got to let them. It's lucrative. You can get that. You know Jason knows. You got to get to work. You got to get these kids to work. So Nick, speaking about a kid, you grew up conservative Jewish and conservative Jewish kosher household. So no dishes for... You separate dishes from meat and dairy stuff. But I read that you had one junk food day a year growing up when you were eating. And then what was the other thing I read about food that you did? You fall asleep listening to a hypnotherapy tape telling you not to eat snacks? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I went to a hypnotherapist to... Did it work? To quit smoking. You guys all went to fucking Kerry Gaynor at some point, right? Did you ever go to Kerry Gaynor to quit smoking? Nobody can cure me. I just... I just... Nobody can cure me. She's my enemy. I'm unstoppable. I'm... There's nothing. I'll come between me and my darts. I would love to see that Western, a little spaghetti Western of you versus a cigarette in a standoff. Oh, you... No, we're on the same team. We're not against each other. So listening to those tapes at night, was this back in the day when we were told that you could learn languages from just listening to the people speak to you when you're sleeping? Yeah, it was... Well, I went to Kerry Gaynor and he was like... You go to his garage in Santa Monica and there's a sun-fated picture of... Katherine Heigl. And you laugh. She was here at some point. And we think... We hope. And... So I used him to quit smoking and then I got this woman from the Deepak Chopra Institute and it was like this woman, she called me and I talked to her about snacks and then she... Like Mike, because I just was... You know, like, it's got to go somewhere, right? It's got to go fucking go somewhere. So if you can't smoke cigarettes, like, give me some goddamn, like, you know, sour patch kids, give me some fucking chips, give me some the same way. She just recommending snacks? No, she would put it... So she would make the snacks, she would be like... She would make the snacks, she's like, what do you find disgusting? And again, using the German, a different version. I can turn that up like five different levels and I got a couple different pitches put on. Do you find poop videos disgusting? People ask the question. You're like, I think I got the wrong number. So but she would equate something like maggots are disgusting. So imagine that you're basically... Imagine that your jelly bellies are maggots and they are going to, you know, it's in my stand-up, I do it, I can't remember any jokes anymore. But anyway, so I would listen to it when I'd go to bed and it worked for a while. But now, God damn it, I want to eat chocolate pretzels all day long. Of course. What if you just cut out the weed? You know, if you cut out the weed, then you're not good, don't get snacky at night. We cut out the weed, we cut out the weed. Yeah. I gotta be able to relate, my friends. Last thing that I think is really fascinating that I did not know is Harry Styles helped you plan your proposal to your wife, Lily. No way. I'm a big Harry Styles fan. How did that happen? We were making that movie Don't Worry Darling, which I think is most famous for the movie. It was the height of COVID. Tell you what, that Olivia Wild knows how to direct a film. She sure does. She's an amazing girl. Truly. She directed it. I had a... And I played her husband in the movie. And so it was really fun to act with her. Like, I mean, you guys, it's like when you sometimes when you act with somebody who's acting, you know, it's different levels and she was great. I mean, she's... Anyway, so we... So it was the height of COVID and I was proposing to my wife, we were... And Harry sort of like, we were planning it out. We were at the... We were doing the... We had just done the table read and we were all hanging out and I was sort of figured out and we just... My wife and I just moved into our new house and so I like, you know, I had a box and I was like, can you just move this last box? And she was like, can you give me a fucking brick? You know what I mean? Like, you're gonna make me move the fucking box. Like, you know? And I was like, I don't know, Harry. So no, I opened... She opened the box. There was a bunch of flowers in the ring, but Harry and then... That's so cool. He checked in with me to be like, how to go. So I told him basically before I spoke to like, we spoke to our families to let them know that we were married because he was just had been checking in. That's so cool. That's so cool. What a story. I mean, it's really, really cool. Sweet boy. Yeah. Nick Kroll, you are a pleasure. I can't believe how quickly this hour went. It's bananas. It's a real sprint. I just want to say, I've loved so many things that you've done. Here he comes. Watch out. Watch out. No, no, the top... Well, I just watched Little Big Boy. Numbers in the chat. Yeah. Little Big Boy. Little Big Boy is so fucking funny. How far are you from large month? Is that where you're going? No. And then, of course... Cavemen. Of course. I thought that was one of the funniest shows I'd ever seen. And it was six episodes. Based on the Geico care. With Will and Josh. Yeah, with Will and Josh. You guys had just done Blades of Glory. Yes. And then they... I loved that show. I was in four hours of prosthetics. That was my first job. I was in four hours of prosthetics every morning to be one of the cavemen. It was so funny. But I wasn't in the commercials and they... Everyone hated the show. They loved the commercials. I loved it. I loved it. They hated the show. They loved the commercials. Right. Everyone was like... I loved the show. The critics hated the show. But what I always took solace in was that the public hated it as well. We got canceled. We shot 13. I was in four hours every morning. It was the worst... It was my first job. And it was the worst job. And perfect first... You know what I mean? Like, thank fucking God. There's no way I could have done it later in my life. So funny that you liked that show. I love that show. And then publicity, of course. Yeah, publicity. You as Liz. Hey, Jay, have you ever seen him play Liz from publicity? No. From the crawl show. I'm going to send you a bunch of clips. It's crying. It's like every... Yeah, you've dealt with... I mean, it's just like... As a gay guy, it's like I would kill to play Liz. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. Well, we want more Nick Crawl. Yeah, no kidding. Everything and anything. I'm stoked for your new show. Thank you. Say how much fun you had today as Liz. Oh my God, you guys, being on this podcast with you, one of the most coveted slots that any publicist could just secure a spot. Spotify, Top 20, Apple, Top 20, the history, the camaraderie, the friendship, the absolute money grab that this podcast is for everybody involved. I love it. It's an honor to be called. It's so good. And to be held by you guys. Thank you guys. Thank you, Nick. Love you to that. Thank you, Nick. So good to see you, man. Good to see you guys. Thanks for having me. Thank you, buddy. Good to see you, success. You too. Thanks, guys. Bye, buddy. Bye. That's the funny, funny Nick Crawl. Yeah, it's so funny. And I love that he showed up to play and he, I mean, he's so always, he's always ready to play. Yeah. And look, clearly he's got 80,000 things going on. But how great are these reviews when they feel like five minutes and I know you can, you never get to your questions, you know, just because the conversation is so good. That was so, that was so quick. He's a good fellow, that guy. I do, do send me some of that stuff. I will. And then I'll bet I'll go, I'll go down like a YouTube poll. Oh, do send me, do send me some of those things. Do send those bits. Right after my toilet. Yeah. He's in full drag as Liz. It's so funny. 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