Club Shay Shay - Mojo Brookzz Part 1
81 min
•Apr 1, 2026about 2 months agoSummary
Mojo Brookzz discusses relationship dynamics, toxic behavior in dating, co-parenting responsibilities, and the comedy industry. The conversation covers gender differences in toxicity, accountability in relationships, introducing partners to children, and reflections on comedy legends and the impact of cancel culture on comedians.
Insights
- Uncommunicated expectations are the primary driver of relationship failure, not finances or infidelity—both partners must explicitly state needs and desires
- Women are more forgiving of infidelity but retaliation is calculated and methodical; men struggle with ego when cheated on and rarely forgive
- Co-parents should protect one primary relationship and allow exes to move on rather than maintaining false hope through ongoing physical intimacy
- Cancel culture disproportionately affects comedians compared to historical comedy legends; audience loyalty matters more than social media pressure
- Generational differences in dating: Gen Z women approach relationships transactionally and emotionally like men, reducing the traditional power dynamic
Trends
Rise of transactional dating expectations where women ask men for financial support early in relationshipsShift in female dating behavior: Gen Z women pursue casual encounters without emotional attachment, mirroring male behavior patternsCancel culture enforcement against comedians for old social media posts, creating self-censorship in comedy materialIncreased focus on co-parenting boundaries and protecting children from revolving door of parental partnersEmphasis on accountability and personal responsibility in relationships as prerequisite for long-term successGenerational divide in comedy: older comedians (Bernie Mac, Eddie Murphy) used provocative material that wouldn't survive modern scrutinyFinancial literacy gap: young earners unaware of tax obligations and quarterly payment requirements for self-employment incomeSocial media metrics (follower counts, ticket sales) creating false perception of wealth and influencing dating expectations
Topics
Relationship Communication and Uncommunicated ExpectationsGender Differences in Infidelity and ForgivenessCo-Parenting Dynamics and BoundariesIntroducing New Partners to ChildrenCancel Culture and Comedy Freedom of SpeechTransactional Dating and Financial ExpectationsGenerational Dating Behavior ShiftsAccountability and Personal ResponsibilityComedy Industry Mentorship and LegacySelf-Employment Tax PlanningToxic Relationship PatternsSocial Media Influence on DatingProtecting Children in Blended Family SituationsComedy as Social CommentaryWealth Perception vs. Reality
Companies
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People
Mojo Brookzz
Guest discussing relationship dynamics, comedy career, and experiences in the entertainment industry
Shannon Sharp
Podcast host conducting interview and sharing personal relationship and parenting experiences
Mike Epps
Discussed as mentor figure who supported Mojo during 'We The Ones' tour despite flight delays
Martin Lawrence
Referenced as OG comedian who respects younger generation and collaborated with Mojo on projects
Kevin Hart
Discussed regarding lost opportunity due to old tweets flagged during social media vetting
Dave Chappelle
Discussed as contemporary comedian whose audience loyalty protected him from cancel culture effects
Bernie Mac
Referenced as comedy legend whose material and delivery style influenced Mojo's career path
Eddie Murphy
Cited as all-time greatest comedian and someone Mojo aspires to meet
Richard Pryor
Included in Mount Rushmore of comedy greats for his influential comedic style
YK Osiris
Referenced for controversial statement about women's obligations in relationships without marriage
Quotes
"If I'm pouring into you, why wouldn't you want to pour into me?"
Mojo Brookzz•Early in episode
"Uncommunicated expectations—that's what causes relationships to end, not finances or infidelity"
Shannon Sharp•Mid-episode
"You only get to protect one. You cannot keep all of them."
Mojo Brookzz•Discussing multiple relationships
"If the people rock with you, they can't take that away. You can't tell 10,000 people not to go see him."
Mojo Brookzz•Discussing cancel culture
"I don't want to think. I just want to laugh."
Mojo Brookzz•Discussing comedy preferences
Full Transcript
YK said men should not expect women to be obligated to cook and clean without a ring. Who said that? YK Osiris? Yes. I'ma give you the world, baby girl. You want a traditional life without doing traditional things. We shouldn't be obligated to pay no bills, buy no Louis bags, take your own trips, for us to decide that we want you to be our wife. They'll buy a girl a car before they buy their mom or their sister's car. That's crazy, bro. If I'm pouring into you, why wouldn't you want to pour into me? Right. I ain't obligated to pay your rent. Come on, man, that's crazy. Hello. Welcome to another episode of Club Shea Shea. I am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the reprout of Club Shea Shea. Stopping by for conversation and a drink today is one of the most impactful digital voices on the comedy tour. One of the top influential comedians in the gang. One of Variety's top 10 comics to watch. That list includes alumni Kevin Hart, Amy Schumer, and Tiffany Haddish, a prominent Chicago-based comedian, and the Emmy Award-winning content creator, a national acclaim and celebrated stand-up comedian, a multi-hyphenate actor, writer, producer, and a father, a viral media star, the most toxic man on the internet, one of the funniest men on your timeline. I know you f***ing lying. Mojo Brooke. That was good. I did right. That was good. That was good. That was good. Bro, I mean, I remember the first time that you popped up on my timeline, one of your skits, bro. I got to toast you for that because I've been waiting on this. I've been waiting to try something this. Let me know what you think, now. It's smooth. Very smooth. You don't need no chas- I thought I was gonna need a little chaser. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, I'm life-skinned. Need a little sprinter or something to go out of that. That's smooth, though. Thank you. I appreciate it. Check this out. As a comedian, and I've had a lot of comedians, you know, you watch the show, you know, I love comedians because you guys are very entertaining and you got a great story to tell. Yeah. Comedians' job is to take events, personal, what you see around, and make it funny. Absolutely. To come up with that line, I know you f***ing lying. Yeah. What situation did it call you to use that line? Man, you know what? Some of the stuff, like those type of lines, sometimes it just fits right there, depending on whatever the situation is. But I've been saying that for forever. Right. Before I even was putting it in my skits, man. I remember the first time that I said it, I got a little sister. She's about three years younger than me, and I remember the first time she got pregnant. And I ain't even know she was doing them type of thing. So I remember my mama calling me like, yeah, your sister pregnant. I know you f***ing lying. So, you know, it's always been in the bag, man. And I think, you know, one day I was just shooting this skit and I just, it just came out and it stuck, man. Everybody started saying it. So what do you think? Is there a right or a wrong time to use it? Because you use it a lot. And when you fill it in, you lie, I can see that situation. Because we say that a lot. If somebody says something, I know you lying. I know you ain't no way in hell. You lying, bro. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like when you hear something that it just don't make no sense, that's when you supposed to say it. That's like when you hear that lie. Right. Ah, come on. I know you lying. Boy, that part that I said, I know you lying. That mama s***. I ain't gonna lie though. I'll then put that in my little repertoire. What you put in there? Yeah, that's mine. Whatever the name is. That's my Britney right there. That's my Britney. Your name the most toxic man on the internet. Yeah. You like it? You're like, come on, I ain't that toxic. You know what? I do like it. You know, that's what I was going for. I think really when I started doing the skits, the kind of, you know, I was doing the toxic skits, it was really to shine light on what a lot of relationships are going through. Yes. But it was also to show the man that act like this, like, hey, you might not think you look crazy, but this is exactly what you look like. Right. You know, when you're doing a lot of the things that you're doing and you know, a lot of people, I've had people that, you know, they're seeing the skits and stuff like that and be like, man, this triggered me. And I feel like it's almost good to be able, you know what I'm saying, to show someone because you can hear it all the time. You toxic. I ain't toxic. But to see something because a lot of them step back from it and look at it and say, you know what? I am the problem. You know what I'm saying? And I feel like I'm helping the world. I'm saving relationships one day at a time. Who do you think are more toxic? Men or women? Women. Women, just for the simple fact that they're more emotional. They're more emotional. You know what I'm saying? I think men, we're more logical. I feel like the most toxic thing that most women do is they assume we're supposed to already know what it is that they want. Right. You know what I'm saying? Where it's like, if you don't say it to us, how we know you want it. You know what I'm saying? And I think that in itself is toxic just to assume that I'm just going to know exactly what it is that you want because we don't move that way. No. You know what I'm saying? We'll let you know. This is what I want. Yeah. Probably one of the most, having a therapist, and I remember when I was talking to seeing her and she was telling me, she said, Shana, you think it's finances or you think it's infidelity that causes a relationship to end. She said, but it's uncommunicated expectations. Absolutely. You expect one thing, but you don't communicate that to her. She expect another thing, but she doesn't communicate that to you. And so now you have uncommunicated expectations. Well, you ain't taking me out. Well, you didn't tell me you wanted to go out. You didn't take me to this restaurant. Well, you didn't tell me you didn't want to go there. Well, you didn't tell me that you wanted this or you didn't tell me you wanted that. So we have expectations, but we're not communicating those. We're not communicating. And I think, how can you hold me accountable for something that you didn't ask me? That I didn't know. That I didn't know. You know what I'm saying? It's different if I knew. Yes. And I didn't do that. Correct. Now, now that's something that you can hold me accountable for. Because I told you this is what I wanted. This is what I need out of this relationship. If you're not saying it, how am I knowing that I'm not giving you what you need? You're giving me what you want. Right. What is the most toxic thing that you've seen women do? Because I watch your scares, man. We're going to get in your skin. Because I want to know if men really, really behave like that. Man, one of the most toxic things that I've seen women do. I've seen women cry over men, like crying about a man that they're dealing with while they were cheating on them. Oh my goodness. So, really? Yeah. Yeah. My big mama did that. Oh, Lord. I didn't mean you to bring nobody's name. I ain't saying a name. She going to know. She going to see it. Like, now why would you go? But I see it where I met her. She hit a guy and I just remember one day she was just booing, crying about the guy. And I'm like, I just was over there yesterday. What are you crying about? He should be crying if he knew what he was doing. He would be crying. But I just think that I just, I don't know. Just that in itself is like, why are you crying? Right. Y'all doing the same thing to each other. What are we crying about? Like, I just. It's a situation that, yeah, I'm doing it and I know it's wrong, but I really don't want you to be doing it. Because I think I'm getting one up on you. As long as I got one up on you, we can't be even. We can't. With this, the remote controller can't be on two plus. It's only one. You remember back in the day, somebody wanted to play the game with you. You ain't really plugged theirs all the way in. You put it up underneath the game, make them think they was playing. That's really what that is. I just think it's just, it's not fair. Did you see the video with Ari Lennox that she said, I regret that I gave toxic men attention instead of the good ones? I didn't see that, but I think that's her holding herself accountable. I like it. I love it. I like accountability. I love it. That's the only way that, I'm in a relationship, that's the only way that can work. Right. Is that because I'm an accountable person. Yes. I've never blamed anything on anybody else. Like, if things went wrong in my life, I always went and pinpoint what I did wrong or what I could have done differently to avoid the situation. Right. So I think while in dating, I feel like a lot of times, and this is not all women, but it is a good amount of women that they skip over what their part was in a particular situation that they were in. They skip over that and just want to talk about what happened to them. And it's no accountability at all. And that's my biggest thing. If you can't take accountability, you don't know what that is. I can't deal with you. Right. And don't, like, this is what you made me do. No, you did that. You did that. I didn't make you do that because you had choices. You did that. And if I'm, if I'm wrong, I'm like, you know, if I'm wrong, I'm mad enough to say I'm wrong. I'm never going to be too big, too proud, too this or too that to say, you know what, I was wrong. I was wrong. And I apologize. I apologize. And not if, not if the situation, because sometimes people like to do a caveat. If I made you feel that I hate that one. Bro, if I, you did, I'm telling you how you made me feel. Right. So just acknowledge that. Take accountability and let's move on. Yes. Yes. But I like that. I like that. And I think, and I, you said something very interesting. You said, that's really the only way that we're going to, you will be able, or I don't know if you stay in a situation like that, but that's the only way you can move forward is that you accept responsibility. You accept accountability. And you're just like, okay, I was wrong in this situation. I should have did X, Y and Z. I should have handled like this. Because if you don't, you're going to find yourself in that same situation. In the same situation again. And it's like, and, and if I'm telling you that this situation made me, I felt the way about it. You know what I'm saying? Then just respect that and just say, Hey, I apologize. If you wanted to work, right? If you don't want to work, then, you know, keep going, you know, keep going about it, how you going about it. But if it's something that you want to work at some point, you have to be able to look in the mirror and say, you know what, I did that. Nobody's perfect. Right. You know, that's the, that's just the best thing about it. Because it may be a day that I have to take accountability. I might have to say, Hey, you know what, what I did was wrong. You didn't deserve that. Right. I take, I apologize. I take full accountability. It won't happen again. So I just, I feel like it just can't work. And I feel like a lot of times people make excuses. So I did that because of this. So I did it, like at the end of the day, your excuses does not justify how I feel. Just take accountability, apologize. And let's move on. Shoot your shot on prize picks and get $50 instantly in lineups when you play your first $5. That's right. 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That's Code Shannon to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup. Prize picks is good to be right. Who's more forgiving? Men or women? Women. Women are more forgiving? Yeah. Yes. Give your purpose out for me. A woman get cheated on, they cry, they fuss, they do all that, and they take them back. How many times have we seen women take back a cheat man? But you know they're going to get their link back that moment. They're going to get their link back. But the thing about it is when women get their link back, you will never know. That's what I'm saying. But when you find out. Yeah. But when you find out, you're not going to forgive her. Even though, listen, listen, men get cheated on and we don't tell nobody. Hell no. I ain't going to get cheated on and call you like, Shannon. Bro, you ain't going to believe this. You ain't going to believe this. You know what I'm saying? Because it's too much. It's almost an ego thing. It is. I think that's one of the biggest things that can really hit a man. Ego is another man having a woman. Yeah. So men aren't that. It is some men that be forgiven. Yeah. I ain't one up. It is some men that's forgiven to situations like that. And listen, teach us all. If you can find a way to navigate and get around that and figure out what y'all need to do to move forward so that she's not doing those things, hey, kudos to you. But me personally, I always look at it like this. If I'm in a relationship and I get called cheated, I don't want you to forgive me. Don't take me back. Get rid of me. If I get called cheated, if I get called cheated, get rid of me. Why? So we all what you just say, they going to get their lick back. Don't get it back. Leave me. I was wrong. I take accountability. Leave me. Don't do that to me. It is a situation like you said. Date in private, breakup in private. Date publicly, you got to break up publicly. And a lot of times when you are public and you're in the public eye and things happen, they find out about it. It makes it more difficult because we can navigate behind the scenes more. We can go to therapy. We can talk this out. Like, look here, baby. I know I've been wrong. I know I've done some things in the past that I'm not proud of. And I appreciate you loving me, all the scars and you've helped me. This situation really hurt because when you think about it, now there are some women, now this Gen Z is different because they think like a man. They don't look at like, because normally when I was growing up, if a woman got a lick back, she really cared about that guy. Hold on. If she got a lick back, she cared about the other dude. Here's the thing. That's why I don't leave me. Yeah. Because you care about it. Bro, now that you said there's new generation, they different. They go to the club that night, you come with me. That's different. You are right about that. Back in the day, if they went and got their lick back, it was a dude that's been in the cut waiting for a little while. That thing been brewing. The work boy flowing. Slow and low. You know, you're cooking meat, slow and low. That thing been brewing for about 24 days. Mr. Rose. It is falling out the bone. It's falling out the bone. He been waiting on it. Yes. Now I'm cool. And you know, and you know, because every man, every man that been there, you've been the man waiting. Yes. And as soon as your time come to shine, you do not lay off. I don't want no woman. I'm like Bam. I'm like Bam last night. I go for 83. I go for 83. I'm going to every which way but lose. Yes. I don't want none of that. I'm cool. So, and that's what I'm saying right there. Like you said, they different these days. Back then, and that is when I was coming up, that is how you said things like, they're going to do that. It's somebody that they been. And it's always been the case. Yeah. It ain't no random. It's no random. Guys are random. Like, oh, no, no, no, no. Women are more methodical. That guy, they had somebody, maybe it's not, they really want to get that lick back. It's somebody you know, somebody close. Cause they wanted to hurt. They wanted to hurt. They wanted to hurt. They go get your homeboy. Oh lord. Now he ain't get my homeboy. No, Mota. I know you, Lash. I know you. It depends on how much you love him. If you love him, if your homeboy do that. He wouldn't love your homeboy. He been laying in the cup for a minute. I mean, Mota, he been laying in the cup for a minute. But who's the woman though? I think that's when it come into play. Is this a woman that you love? I don't care. My homeboy, look, when I say homeboys bucket and burns. Okay. When I say bucket and burns, they already know. Okay. So, so, so, so, I just, let me just make sure I got this understanding then. So let's just say, you know, let's just say you got a little lineup. You got about five little chicks there. That's on your lineup. Yeah. I'm not saying it's what you got. I'm just saying. I understand. You got a little lineup. Yeah. I was, I was, I was hell when I was well. Okay. All right. So, in a land far, far away. So, bam, you got your lineup. Yeah. Ocho come, hit number five on your lineup on the slick. He hit a number five and he come and tell you like, Hey, and I'm, you know, who, is he cut? No, she cut. No. The way I look at it like this, first of all, Ocho got a lady, Cambodia. I know they say have a, we, we're Ocho. You good. I'm just, we speak hypothetically. Yeah. Hypothetically. But this is the way it works. Okay. You get to protect one. That's the rule. You get to build a house. You can put this one in bars and surround ramp and put it on the top shelf. You get one. You cannot. You cannot get keep. You can't get keep. You protect the quarterback. The lineman, the wide receiver, the new running backs. Oh well, fin for yourself. Fin for yourself. I'm just keeping a stand for yourself. You can't get mad at me about, about the left guard. You can't get mad at me. Now your quarterback. I got to respect that. Bubble wrap on the top shelf. All right. Cool. Yeah. Cool. I'm with that. That's gang. I'm with that. I'm with that. But a lot of your skits have to do with like baby mama and you coming over there and she needs something. I mean, do guys really be doing that? Be trying to go back and hit baby mama? Yeah. Absolutely. I don't, but you have in the beginning. Yeah. You know, when that baby, when that baby, I'll tell you what, that first three years, yeah, baby folk, you going back over there. You going back over there. Anytime you got to go over there because I'm baby mama's over what they be doing. They put a little short song, come open the door. I'm going to go get the baby. Now I'm going to come upstairs with you. You know what I'm saying? But you got to get to the point where that you understand, you know what I'm saying? That having that type of dynamic with your baby mama is not going to allow you to really enjoy your life outside of it. Nope. And you're giving up false hope. And you got, yeah. So you got to, you have to, you got to stop, you have to stop that. Once you stop that, then you're going to live a way more peaceful life. And then allow them, if my always, my thing always been this, if you know what your baby mama want, you know she want the family, you know she want the husband, you know she want that. And you know you're not willing and ready to give that to her. Let her go find it. Let her go find it. If she, if that's what she wants and you know you can't give it to her, let her go find it. You know what I'm saying? But I, but it's real though. I know dudes right now feel like, Hey, that's my baby mama. That's not, that ain't no life. That ain't no lifetime. That ain't no lifetime booty call, bro. You got to be able to let her go. Bro, for some dudes it is. I'm telling, I done seen it. So you feel, I got a homeboy right now. I got 10 kids. He think all his baby mamas is still his. He got six baby mamas. He think all of them is still his. I know you ever lie. I ain't lie. But that's, that's not fair to her. It's not. And remember what we just said, you only get to protect one. Yes. You know what I'm saying? So you, you got six, but you think they all yours because you had a baby by me. You just got to understand that's it. Like y'all had a baby. That's it. Somebody else don't, cause then what, then what, what does she have a baby by somebody else? Not, does y'all baby mama? Yeah. See what I'm saying? Yeah. And you try and, you try and the whole to talk about what you're doing with him. What you mean what I'm doing with him? You over there got, got whoever God knows who you got. Whoever you got. I ain't asking you no question. I ain't asking you don't ask me no. And don't try to come run my house. Don't try to do that. Don't try to do that. Damn. Don't try to do that. Don't try to do that. How soon should you introduce the new lady to, let's just say for the sake of our, your kid, you got a kid. How long do you wait? Do you wait a month, two months, three months a year? How much time should pass before you introduce the lady to the kid? I mean, I think, I think that depends. Me, me personally, I would say maybe about a year, maybe about a year. And I, and you know, just me personally, I'm very like, over protective of my daughter because she is, you know, she, she, she a people person. So it's like, if daddy say, hey, she cool. She gonna gravitate towards her. Yeah, she cool. You know what I'm saying? And I don't want it to be a revolving door. I don't want my daughter to see me as that type of man that just got all these different women. And you know, now she 25 years old and she like, Oh daddy, there go another one or daddy, there go another one. So I, I, me personally, I would say about a year that you, that you do that for women. I think they should wait five years before they make sure they're engaged. Sure. Yeah. And you got man, I just think it's just so crazy out here nowadays. And especially man, you know, I think, you know, some of these parents with little girls and, you know, you introducing, you bringing different men around your daughter. And you started hearing all these crazy stories about, you know, these men trying to talk to they step in, what is it? All that crazy stuff like that. So I think I, maybe I'm pushing it with the five years, but I think it should be very, very detailed, very extensive before you just get to bringing men around. Yeah. Yeah, you got to know you're going to be with this man for some time. I mean, the situation you date for a couple of, well, come meet the kids and let's go. Hey, let's take the kids to the park or let's take the kids to get something to open on the. I was dating a chick one time, bro. And she was ready to introduce her daughter to me within like the first two months. And I was like, you know, out of respect for her father, I'm a pass. Right. And she was like, well, if we're going to be together, and I said, yeah, I don't know that. Right. I know you two months. Right. You want to meet your daughter? I said, no. I said, because me being a father, if I knew my baby mother was dealing with a man for two months and you ready to bring my daughter to his house to meet him? No, we got to have a conversation. That ain't no, that's not, hell no. I know you lying. Let me ask you this. Could your, your baby mama, your child, your co-parent, your co-parent, I hate using that term because I don't want because people go, they go try to cancel us both. We talk about baby mama. So co-parent. So we co-parent. Your co-parent. So your co-parent has another dude. Can the dude discipline your child? Hell no. Okay. That's what we at. Discipline mine. I'm going to discipline you. Discipline my child? Yeah. All right. All right. If my daughter ever called me, ever called me, I'd listen to him. You know, with my co-parent and partner, you know what I'm saying? Is in a relationship, whatever the case may be, you know, respectfully, I would let him know like, hey, if she does anything that you feel is going to come and look at it. Disrespectful, disrespect in your home. Call me. Yes. And I'll take care of it. Absolutely. You know what I'm saying? But do not, don't put your hands on my child. That's exactly, that's the way I am. I told my kids, I said, look, I want you to treat that man just like you would treat me. Respect. You would not talk back. You're not going to be reckless. If he tell you to sit down, if he tell you to stop, you stop. You stop. Now, now, now, I told them, I have no conversation. I said, I'm never going to try to run your home from afar. I can't do it. This is your home. Yeah. But you know how I am. Mm hmm. You don't have what them kids call. Please. Please. Because behind mine, we can go there. Yeah. And I've never had, I've never had no problems. I've never had the kids because I've always talked my kids and the co-parent has done a great job of being respectful. Being respectful. That's all. Because I did the dance with a man. No matter what you think of him, that was a man. And your mom chose to be with him. Yeah. You're going to respect that. Yeah. And if he there, especially if he there, and he paying bills, you can't care that. Yes. Yeah. Respect him as that. But yeah, don't put your hand, don't keep your hands. Everybody keep your hands. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? When you found out your co-parent was seeing someone else, what went through you like, damn, I let a good one go. Okay. She happy. So what was going through your mind? You know what? But not so much like I let a good one go. You know what I'm saying? When my daughter's mom, she met me right towards the part right when I got ready to take comedy seriously. Yeah. You're the blow up. You know what I'm saying? And I was so focused on that. I really couldn't, I couldn't really pay attention to the type of woman that she was. Right. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, it was just one of them things where I was just so locked in on the dream, it was either going to be that or this. Right. And I wanted this so bad, not just for me, but for my daughter. And she wasn't, she needed so much more from me that I wasn't able to give. To give me that time. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, when she got to the point where, you know, she want to move on and, you know, she's all that like, hey, like I said earlier, if I can't give you these things and you feel like there's somebody can, then you got every right to go and do that. I'm not going to stop you from doing that. It's the only way. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to do my part. I'm going to take care of my daughter. And if y'all need anything, you know what I'm saying? That I can do, I worked hard enough to be able to help y'all. And I have, you know what I'm saying? Anytime, you know, my big mama needs to make this move and make that move. And, you know, she's had businesses that I've helped invest into. Because honest to God, truth, I would not be where I'm at without the sacrifices that she's made. You know what I'm saying? To have my daughter as much as she has her. And, you know, the time that she invested into the, you know, the extracurricular activities and, you know, making sure that, you know, she, if she needs tutoring, she's getting tutoring. All those little things that I don't have to worry about that allows me to go out in the world and be funny and do what I need to do. She, she sacrificed so that I can do those things. So it's, it'll never be a time where that if she needed my help, like that I wouldn't help her. Now, once, you know, you got your man and your man is there and, and, and, you know, I would just hope that she would get a man that's going to be able to make sure she's straight. Right. The same way that I would. Because sometimes they'll be looking at you. Hey, get him to do it. He making all that money. He got cake. No, bro. Bro, she with you. She with you. Stop counting my pockets. The only thing I'm responsible for is the little one over there. Yes. That's it. I'm going to make sure she's straight, but bro, don't have her calling me because that's my first question going to be, well, boy, what he doing? What you mean? What you mean? You ain't got the real money. Wait a minute. Hold on. Ain't he sleeping over there every night? Yes. Yeah. You got to get a new man. Absolutely. If I got to send anything over there for something that I'm not, that's not of my responsibility and you got a man, then I got to talk to you like you, my little sister. And that's the thing about my baby. Mom, I wouldn't tell her nothing that I wouldn't tell my closest friend, my closest female friend, or my sisters. Like I would, I would tell her like, Hey, you got to do better than this. You know what I'm saying? Because here's the thing. When you were dealing with me, you wouldn't let me do the bare minimum. Yes. So why, why he get a pass now? Because I got a few dollars. Because they be in the air. They be in there. You know, you know, he got it. You know, he got it. They know, they know about the money before you buy mom of them. Yeah. Oh, you know, he ain't in the fair. You know, you know, he got it. You know, he got for that last and for that with the ones to know what he got. He don't know nothing. Just put in there. You know, because people really count your parking. They do. Absolutely. There go. Oh man, here's this many people at the show. Or bro, I put up a post that from my tour last year where I sold over 86,000 tickets. Right. Somebody came right back to me and said, damn, so you made. They don't say, and when you charging $30, $50, $75, even if we did 86,000 at $35, let's do 86,000 tickets. On the low end, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And they come back. They come back. But what I think people don't really pay attention to is they don't know what it costs to get there. Yes. They don't know who you had to bring with you. Yep. You know what I'm saying? It's the production. There's so much that go, there's so much that go into it, but they'll break that. I'm telling you. And then Uncle Sam will hit cut. So you got to have that with Uncle Sam. You got to pay Uncle Sam. Yeah. Because if you don't, they come there, come holler at you. He the only guy to get paid for doing no work. And you know when they start calling, because first they'll send you letters. Yeah. Then they'll call. Yeah. When they call, you better figure something out. But the thing with Uncle Sam, he let that thing go. Because he don't let it, he don't want you right now because he know you can pay. You know you can pay it. He got to let you go. He want you to owe. Oh yeah. You got to pay it. And I'm going to take a shout out to my mama. Because when I first, I want to say, you know, when I really first started making some money was during the pandemic. Yeah. And I remember my mama was like, I'm happy for you, but you know, you got to, you got to pay taxes on that money. Right. And I'm like taxes. So you're like, yeah, you've been paying taxes. You know, because you were working a regular job, they was taking the taxes out. They take the taxes out, yeah. So I was like, I was like, she's like, you ain't been sending them nothing. Now you, I said, send the who? Send nobody nothing. It's my money. You know what I'm saying? And it's like, you don't really realize that, that game until you really actually touch us some money. And you be like, damn, I got to send them how much? And they want it. Yeah. That's why you better pay quarterly. You start making some money, pay them quarterly. Quarterly. Because you don't want that money, that one big check to go out. Oh, it had up. It had up. Oh, my mama told me a number one day. I remember just from the 2020 tax return, and I had it all set up bad, Shana. I had that money coming under my social security number. I didn't have an LLC. I didn't have nothing. I was just not knowing, just business. I just was not, I'm just making money happy, buying cars. I'm just happy. And, you know, I think I had owed them like a hundred thousand dollars. And I said, they want all they want. They want all they want. They'll take a payment from me. They will. But that interest. They will. The interest that they charge you ain't what the interest that they give you when they owe you. When they owe you. But they ain't going to talk about when they owe you. Look, man, like, okay, your daughter's birthday. Yes. And or get together function. Yes. You go together, the co-parent, significant other there. Y'all go, y'all, hey, bro, what's up? Y'all daff up, y'all, hey. Oh, no. Damn, bro. No, I'm not saying that. You know what I'm saying? Because right now I don't know what my big mama got going on. You know what I'm saying? She's secretive about it. She, I ain't going to say, I don't ask, man. You know what I'm saying? You don't want to know who around your child? If somebody going to be around my child, she's going to let me know. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Like, if somebody is going to be around, my expectation is that, you know, she's going to let me know. But birthday parties, you know, maybe like the last couple of years we've been doing a little different where I'm made, like this year, we was in Minneapolis. So I flew my daughter out to work with me and we went to the mall of America and I took on a shopping spree. And then, you know, back home, my big mama did a skating party for. And I had just got back in town. I pulled up for the last hour to skate party. But, you know, in an event that, you know, a situation like that happened, if the dude cool, pull up. Pull up, bring a gift. Don't just come and eat cake, bring a gift. You up. So you had you ever had an issue with your co-parents other partner? No. No. Like I said, as long as everything is respectful, we ain't got to, we ain't got to tussle. We ain't, we don't got to go there. But if you want to go there. No, no, don't say if you want to go there. You don't want to go there. Just leave. I don't want to go. I'm not going to put it in there because I want to, because let me tell you something. Because they think because I'm life-thin that I want to try you. They're going to try you. I will, I will take it. We'll have a fight. Put the glass back on because they're going to get them lies and say, not you ain't going to do nothing. You're right. I'm going to take it as far as they want to take it though. I'm going to take it as far as they want to take it back. No, bro. If that's what you want, they're going to squabble with you. See, I'm shooting the brother side. Ain't nobody squabble. You know what? We definitely shoot the brother side. And I would tell you something. Mike, when Mike told you, when Mike told you, he don't care about you lying to me. I ain't say I'm going to shoot you. But no, he did clean up. He said, I ain't say I was going to do it. But he did say, I ain't going to fight you. You're too big. And that's real. You are too big. I have to bite you. I ain't going to lie to you. Situation, would you ever consider getting back with your baby? Judge, compare it. No. Too much damage? That is your family. I'm sure your daughter would love to get you all back together. The family back together. Yeah, no. You know? No. Because everybody wanted, you know, Shaq and Kobe, rest Kobe so they wanted the big band to get back together. Yeah. They had so much success. Here's the thing. I don't think that my baby mama could really handle the pace of my lifestyle right now. And I need to be with a woman that is... The understance. That understands, that's strong. Gotta be strong. Give it a gotta be. Yeah. Because you're going to be on the road, probably to what, 200, 250, 300 days a year? Most of the year. And you around beautiful women? All the time. And you up late at night? That's right. But your schedule is different as a comedian? Yes. Because your day don't normally start till 9, 10 o'clock at night. You work, basically, you're a graveyard, you got. Yeah. Honestly, we get up, the first show, like, you know, it depends on how many shows you're doing that day. The first show normally at like 6, 7 o'clock, you at the comedy club to make about one in the morning. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And, you know... You don't go to bed until most people, most people getting up by the time you go to bed. About 2, 3 in the morning is when I finally get to lay down. And then, what a lot of people don't understand is that my creative process happens in the middle of the night. Right. So it may be 2, 3 in the morning, I'm trying to go to sleep, but my mind won't shut off. It's not turned off. And I'm writing all this different material and ideas and stuff like that. So I just, you know, honestly, with that situation, I just, I don't, I don't know. Could you see yourself dating a woman with kids? Oh, Joe, my partner, he's like, bro, I don't want no woman unless you got at least two kids. Absolutely, I would. Absolutely. Not a problem. I got a limit. 2, 3, 4, 5. Once we get up to the 3s and the 4s. That's too bad, yeah. Then it's like, how many baby days you got? Because the thing about it is, when you dating a woman with kids, right, it's dealing with, it's dealing with, I don't like other men in my situation. You know what I'm saying? It's something about you being with a woman with a kid and the kid is on the phone with their dad and you hear the dad say, put your mom on the phone. For what? What you got to talk to her for? Like why you got to talk like, that's my woman now. You know, you just talk to the kid, what you got to talk to my girl for? But you got to understand, like, they made that together, so it's conversations they got to have. So if you got two, three of them calling. Oh yeah, that's about to be a buck, yeah. No, I can't deal with you on the phone with all these different men all day long. You know what I'm saying? Can all of us ain't gonna get along? It's just a law of marriage. Somebody ain't gonna like you. And then, you know, in my situation, what I'm doing to my career and stuff like that, dudes, I just feel like they try to find a way to one up you. And when you dealing with their big mama, you can go back to the conversation. A dude feel like, hey, I don't care where he got, who he is at the end of the day, there's my big mama. And dudes are moved like that. So it just, I would rather, I could date one with kids, one or two, that's it. And I think women with kids are way more nurturing, they're way more, you know, responsible. And it's not that women without kids aren't any of those things. I'm just saying that I've seen it more. I think women that don't have kids just from the experiences that I've had, sometimes they come off a little selfish, you know, they think they bigger than the program. And it just, yeah. Where are you on dating apps? You good with dating apps? Would you get on a dating app? No, I just couldn't imagine going viral because my face popped up on Tinder. I'm cool. I can't do it. I ain't looking for love on the internet. This was, I saw this somewhere. And it's like women now asking men to, we go out on a date. Yes. And I'm a little behind on the rent. I'm a little behind on the car note. Can you help me with this? Yeah. After one date? Yeah, it's real. They really doing that? Hell yeah. Come on, Mo. Not after one date. My right hand guy. Maybe after a couple of months. My right hand guy, my right hand guy, I got a homeboy. Just over, I want to say last weekend. He dealt with his chick or whatever. And one night, the next day, she hit on one of the messages like, I'm trying to move. I need like four bands. He showed me the message. Hold on. You just, so when did you decide you were going to move before or after me? Because it damn sure seems like you decided to move. You were doing just fine. Yes. So, and then it's like, it's like, so then, you know, he takes my life. Well, if he don't come up with it, what you going to do? And she like, I don't know. Sounded like a good response to me. Yeah. And then so he like, I don't know either. I don't know either. So neither one of us know what the hell going on. Here's my thing with that though. It's like, I don't mind helping anybody. Nope. I don't mind it at all. If I got it. Yes. I can help you, I help you. But I feel like sometimes, you know, everything these days is just so transactional. Yeah, it is. You know what I'm saying? But my thing is, if you're going to ask me for the money, ask me first. Yes. Before we get involved. Right. Like if you're going to ask for the four thousand, let me know before we lay down. Right. Tomorrow, I'm going to ask you for four thousand dollars. So that way I could decide if I want to lay down. Or ask you like, oh, we started so, so where are you? We get together, we start seeing each other. Are you cool with helping me with some bills if I fall behind? If I fall behind on my car note, if I ask you to do this, X, Y and Z. Is that something that I can ask you for? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I agree with that. Yeah. But they just spring it on you and it's like, damn, like four thousand. Today? It's Tuesday. American dollars? Yeah. They sold? You know, and it's like, man, I don't know what's happened, man, but I seen something other day, bro. It was like a woman was like, man, a dude should be paying me just because I'm giving him my time. What? Bro. Is that what we are now? That's what we at. That's what I'm going to take these dudes with these podcasts to sit on and they did all these interviews where they like, man, if a dude ain't giving you five thousand a month, he don't really love you. If a dude ain't, and it's like, when did we get that? Because I know for a fact, my granddaddy won't give my grandma that. No. He might give her a check, but it wasn't much. It was like 55, $75. Go pay the rent. Yes. You know what I'm saying? And it's like, it's just, I don't know. It's just like, it's- Do people realize how much like five thousand, if somebody just say five thousand, do you realize how much five thousand dollars a month is when you times it 12? They don't. So just think about how much he, so let's just say for the sake of argument. So what's he going to do at this place? Does he live? Does he have a car? Does he have to pay rent? No. Does he have to pay bills? That's what I'm saying though. You know, they go based off what they think you have, right? Right. So if they think, you gotta think, if they think you have it, they're going to ask for it. Right. They think you got it. Certainly. They're going to ask you for it. Right. You know what I'm saying? They're going to look at you and they're going to say, I'm wearing the tight clothes. He got five thousand. They're going to ask you for it. Listen, the tighter them clothes get, the more money in the money. That's why I've been loosening my clothes up. Yeah, well you see. I've been getting, I've been wearing big pants and everything lately. Well I better get some faulties then. Get some big pants. I'm telling you OG, once the clothes start getting tight, they're like, okay, he got it. And they're going to try to squeeze it out of you. No, uh-uh. But that's real though. I don't know where we at in the times now, but it's like, you know, you got to pay to have a woman these days. It costs. Marriage. You looking to get married? Would you like to get married anytime soon? Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. I want all of that. I feel like, uh, you know, having a good woman by your side. Yeah. One good woman by your side that you can consistently, you know, be with. Once you start popping out and you got all these different women, your life is just in the flux. It's just chaos. And I've been there, bro. I've been there where I done had six, seven girls on the roster. Compared to when I've gotten one, my life is totally different. Now I'm just got to argue with this one instead of the seven. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I can do that. But it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's just not to me. It's just not worth it. I, I'd rather have one woman. We build this brick by brick. And at the end of it all, I got one person that I can get this all to that, that, that stood by my side through the ups and the downs. It's nothing better than that. My parents have been together over 30 some years. So that's all. Wow. That's what you know. That's what I know. That's what I know. Yeah. That's what I know. I don't know nothing. You know, I've seen other things, but what I know is that my parents almost 40 years this year, they, that they've been together and through the hard times. And I've seen them go through the hard and the good. Yes. You know what I'm saying? But I don't know, I don't know what has came up that everything's supposed to be, you know, gold paved roads and, and, and roses and social media. They got, they got a message. You got to think every relationship you see on that be happy. They be happy until, until now, all of a sudden the blogs and gather the, you know, And all of a sudden they're going to delete it all the other stuff. I said, hold on, you were just happy. You were just happy. How you delete everything. I saw all these photos and now they gone. Now they gone. But that go back to what you said is dating privately. You don't got to go through all of that. Right. I'm with that a thousand percent. YK said men should not expect women to be obligated to cook and clean without a ring. Who? Who said that? YK Osiris? Yes. Okay. I'm a give you the world baby girl. Is that him? Yeah. He said that. Yeah. I'm a give you the world baby girl. Okay. Mo. All you do, a lot of times you hear these women, they talk about, they want traditional. Mm-hmm. They want a man to take them out, pick them up and do certain things. You want a traditional life without doing traditional things. Go back to this. He said what? They shouldn't be obligated to cook and clean without a ring. And we shouldn't be obligated to pay no bills. Buy no Louis bags and take your own trips. We got to do all this stuff. Right. Yeah. For us to decide that we want you to be our wife. Yeah. Like I got to do all this. I got to buy you this, I got to take you there, I got to pay your rent, I got to do all this. For me to decide, after I done did all of that for you to be my wife, but you ain't obligated to make me nothing to eat. That what he say? Who? Who say? YK. Okay. Tell me something Barack Obama said. Hell he talking about. You got to spend all this money. Think about that. You think about it bro when you coordinate with me, you all going on dates and bro it's stuff that you will do for a woman. I know dudes that are buying woman a car. And I feel like you should only do that for your wife. Yeah you wouldn't buy, I mean a lot of sometimes I don't know how many, because they'll buy their mom, they'll buy their girl a car before they buy their mom or their sister car. That's crazy bro. No I mean it's hard for me to give you more than what I give my mom and my sister or my own. You see what I'm saying? But you can't go make me something to eat. I could pay your rent. Yeah. But you ain't obligated to go make me something to eat. I ain't obligated to pay your rent. And this is the friction. It's because of people, what I just said is going out there saying shit like that. That's putting that in the minds of people and people just not being people no more. They just living out based on what somebody said. Now I'm not saying that, I ain't nobody obligated to do nothing. But if I'm pouring into you, why wouldn't you want to pour into me? If you know I'm going out on this road and I'm working and I'm coming back home making sure you straight, making sure you going on the trips you want to go to, you have the things that you have, how you not obligated to make me nothing to eat? What the little realist doesn't say? I'm me as obligated. I'm me as I'm obligated. Right. Come on man, that's crazy. That's crazy. You've all, you've passed in Druski. You saw Druski catch a lot of criticism, but I guess he was spoofing the pastors. But what comedians do is that they take things that have happened to them personally or what they see around. If you think about a lot of stuff that gets created, it gets created because people, they see it. Yes. So he had to see that somewhere. Yeah, on my page. And that's, and here's the thing, and that's not no like, that ain't no like, jab at Druski. I love Druski, but I did the same skit. Yeah. But I think what Druski did with it was phenomenal. He took it. He got suspended. And he took it to a whole other level. He in the L, he got the red bottoms on. I thought, and listen, exactly what you said is fine. You know, people was like, he's mocking God because they was in my comments and the same thing. Y'all mocking God, you mocking God. No, no, no, no. We're mocking these preachers that's saying that they're of God and they not. Right. You know what I'm saying? That's what they're mocking. But I, man, I look at it like this. The world they got too sensitive. We can't talk about nothing. We can't say nothing. But what I like about what Druski is doing is that Druski going hard, no, no, like he doing it. Yeah. What, well, who, who, I would have been scared to pay myself as a white man, do a skin. Yeah, I would too. Druski about the only comedian can do that right now. He the only one. Yeah. But I don't know why they get offended. I don't know why the church get offended when the pastors, the majority of the pastors, are preaching prosperity. I don't understand. Now my house is leaking, but you got a mansion. I'm driving, I'm getting dropped off. I'm getting Uber to drop me off at the church or I'm driving a bucket and you got a rose or phantom and a Mercedes. Yeah. I don't, I don't, I don't understand. It's a real bro. It's, it's. So God say you, hey, you won't, you make sure he riding this style, but I'm going to bless you. But I'm going to bless you. That don't, that don't, that don't make sense to me. We didn't say in all type of preachers, you know, then a lock the door, talking about the collection. Close the doors. I wish I would be at the church and they tell me about closing though. Yeah. I'm like, wait, we closed the door. How God going to get in here? Let me tell you something. He was, he was like a brother, normal person. He walked, he came in the church. He can't get in. Yeah. Let me tell you something. Oh my God. I'm going to keep it real with you. If I ever go to the church and they talking about lock the doors, I'm going to slap the pass to the weekend and acquire the director. Bro, lock the doors. No, bro. Like I said, bro, 100% Drusky won't win. He won't run for that, bro. And, and, and I say that because I had did a skit similar to that. And you call criticism also, huh? What? They was all in the comments. Oh, I normally rock with you, but you ain't going to play with God. They didn't realize the minister is not God. Bro, some of these people don't even know God. How you going to tell me who I could play with? You don't even, you don't know the, God made me. Right. He noticed how I am. He knew I was going to, if, if what y'all say is true, he knew I was going to do this video for I didn't do it. Yeah. So what God made me do that. Are you playing with God, shacking up? I'm just asking because they quit. They quit talking about God. So you God, shacking up. So what, what does God think about shacking up? Bro, God, listen. People do so many things that's not of the religion that they practice and y'all draw the line at a skit. That's when it's went too far. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I 1000% agree. No. Mike else, Mike's came on the show and he was great job and you've been doing Mike is invited. Mike is, he, he doesn't have a problem given and, and helping these, this younger generation come up with a community. And you are, and we the ones tour. What is Mike, what is Mike Mike been meant to you? You know what? I'm going to tell you something that Mike just did this past weekend that really for me, it just, it just really showed me who, who he is. So we was playing in Memphis. We was playing in Memphis for the We The Ones tour. And you know, the flights and, and all this stuff been crazy. We were stuck at the airport trying to get to Memphis for like 12 hours. Wow. 12 hours. And I remember in Memphis being one of my largest markets. Like when I first coming up, Memphis was like one of the first cities I went to that sold out. So I met the airport and I just accept the realization like, bro, you're not going to make it. So I call my agent. I'm like, Hey, I'm not going to make it. I call the promoter. I said, man, I'm not, I'm not going to make it. And promoted like, man, just, just wait. You know what I'm saying? We're going to try to, we're going to try to hold the show as much as we can until you figure it out. But I'm not moving. We at the airport, they talking about they got no flight attendants. So I call my agent. My agent like, Hey, bro, it's dead. Make the video. Let them know that you're not going to make it. Now I post this video up as the show has started and there's people in the comments like, man, we came to see you and you know, you should have left the day before. I mean, it was upset. And the promoter hit me back. He said, man, any update? I said, man, we still got no flight attendant. He said, man, bro, just let me know if something changed. We still holding it. Like we pushing the show back. Everybody doing extra time. I said, cool. So about 20 minutes later, the flight attendant show up. Everybody start clapping. Seven me. Because I done missed out on this money. I ain't forget paying. You know what I'm saying? So we get on the plane and the promoter called me. I said, bro, we got a flight attendant. We, you know, we should be landed about 10 o'clock. Mike go on stage at 10, 20. Wow. We 20 minutes on the airport. So about time I get there, Mike going on stage. And if anybody is really familiar with the culture of comedy, when somebody like a Mike Epps or like nobody, nobody, nobody going up after that. That's it. It's over. Yeah. So I'm like, if Mike go up, it's over. So we get there. We land when we get on the runway, they end up holding us up another 20 minutes. Damn. So we don't land in Memphis until 10, 20. As soon as we hit the ground to promote a column, he like, where you at? I said, we just landed. I said, we not even at the gate yet. He said, man, he said, bro, it would be dope, man. If Mike just go ahead and let you close. And I was like, man, I mean, ask him. I was like, you know, all he can say is either yes or no. Correct. And I said, you know, either way, I'm fine with, you know, I'm fine either way. And he called me back. I called right back. Hey, get down here. Mike say he going to let you close. He going to bring you up. So we get out the plane. And I mean, we running through the airport. We about 15 minutes away from the venue. We get the oldest driver that I've ever seen. Bro, stop and trying to figure out if people is OK in the car accident. We went past the car accident. He like, it's OK. I said, look, we're going to pray for them. Get your ass to the land center. Mike for to bring me up. Right. So, you know, they texting my brother and they text him. My brother like, where y'all at? My brother like, are we three minutes away? So we flying, bro. We get to the stadium and we flying down a ramp. Bro, I get out the car to car steel moving. This is like a movie. Car steel moving. I get out the car, bro, I run into the stage. And as I get to the stage, they like just go and somebody just push me. And I walk out onto the stage, bro. And Mike couldn't even say my name. The arena went crazy. Wow. And I put my hand out to shake Mike hand and he grabbed me and hugged me. And he had me in the microphone. And it was just some about that moment that was like, hey, you can't tell me nothing about Mike Epps. I think the crowd appreciated it. They know because you made the video about what transpired. And for you to go through what you went through in order to get there. Just to get there. Just to get there. Because a lot of people like, man, I ain't going to be able to make it. Man, forget it. I done been here six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 12 hours, whatever the cage may be. I'll catch them next time. Maybe we get an opportunity to circle back. But they appreciate that. You know what? The biggest thing was is that they waited for me. Yeah. Like that was the biggest thing in it. And, you know, after I got off the stage and I went to say Mike, and when Mike was just like, he just looked at me. He was like, you got it, bro. The goal, you got to think. There was a show that they stretched out and started late. Man, I DCM flag, Carlos Miller, Chico being guys like that, Mike Epps. And for me to be able to go after all of them after, you got to think. I ran right up on stage not knowing what jokes I'm about to do. Right. My mind was just get there. Get there. So now I'm in front of 10,000 people and it's like, all right, it's time to rock. You here now. And, you know, man, I got to say, they can't nobody tell me nothing about Mike Epps, bro. It's not a lot of OG comedians that would have done that. Right. You know what I'm saying? Because they came up old school knowing that they couldn't follow. Once that headliner went up, it's over. It's over. Whatever you didn't do, you didn't do. You didn't do. You missed your money tonight. You know what I'm saying? It was just like, no. That wasn't even like the first time though, like the first year that I did, We Don't Once, the very first year they had me as the opening act. This was two years ago. And the way they hit the lineup, I would go out before the actual show would start right before Mike and I would bring Mike Epps up. And this was the first show of the year. We was in Minneapolis and I go up and I do 15 minutes. I'm talking about our slam. I can see Mike. I can see Mike from the stage. Mike, you know, going back and forth and his manager like trying to get me like, hey, we got to get him off the stage. Right. So Mike goes up, Mike do his thing and he comes right down. He brings the next act up. Mike come and find me. He said, hey, you're not going to that spot no more. He said, you're too funny. He said, you got to be in the show. We'll get somebody else to do that. He said, you got to be. He's like, more people need to see you. And you just, you know, like I said, I didn't met a lot of the OGs. I didn't met a lot of them. You know what I'm saying? Mike the one. Mike different, bro. But he did catch some criticism. He said a couple of jokes about Nicki Minaj and then the homeless people. He's like, you know, the, you know. I thought the homeless thing was so. They are blown out of the book. Man, there ain't nobody giving nobody no $500 to go stand and know with no block plus. But he was joking, man. He was joking. I think he had a serious moment and I feel like, you know, a lot of people don't understand comedy is a lot of misdirection. Like he was setting you up thinking he was going to go this way and bam, he went that way. It was funny. Like let it go and move on. Now the Nicki Minaj thing. Listen to me when, when he said it at the show. I laughed. Right. As a comedian. Yeah. I saw, I saw the human. But I also knew when he said it, I know how Nicki's the barbs. I know how to get out. I didn't, I didn't, he, but Mike said it like right at the beginning. So it's like, it was in one of those spots where you wouldn't really be expecting people to be recording. So I didn't think nobody got it. Nobody got it. But why would I think that we in the arena is like 8,000 people there. Somebody got it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So I thought he said it in a way where, okay, nobody going to get that. Right. Now I got on social media the next day and saw the clip going viral. And then like five minutes later, I saw Mike apologized and I'm like, damn. But I just, I just, I didn't think, I texted him. I didn't think he needed to apologize. Are this cancel culture and that's having comedians apologize. Is it going too far now? No. Yes. Because you know back in the day when, oh, when, oh, like when Carlin and CK and, and, and, and, and prior and Murphy, bro, guys, they apologized for, ish. Bernie Mac wouldn't have made it. No. In this era. They would definitely had Robin Harris, all those guys. They wouldn't have made it. No. No. They wouldn't have made it. Bro, if you go and look at the Kings of Comedy and you look at Bernie Mac set just from that. Oh yeah. We talked about the kids. Uh, they got them out of here. And it's just like, you know, the thing with the council culture is, it's just like, why do y'all, why, you know, why so bad? Because it's something somebody said that you want to ruin a livelihood. But you know what, Mo? Now more than ever, people wake up to be offended every day. Even when it, we, even when it doesn't concern them, they're offended. If it don't apply, they still, because you know what? Oh, I have a sister that's like this or I have a brother or somehow they, My friend, or you try to connect that way. However, you know, just to get together and be mad, bro. I, you know, as a comedian, like I said, it's hard. And as much as you, as much as I want to see him be like, oh, you don't got to be mad for, you can say what you want to say. You do. You have to be mindful. And it's like, you got to, you know, bro, it's just certain things that I just don't even dive into. Politics, all that stuff. All right, y'all got it. I don't even want to talk about that. Just because, you know, so many people got different perspectives and, and, and different things that they like or different people that they like. And just because we don't like the same things or we don't agree with the same things. Now my career got to end. Right. I got to be counsel because of that. It's, I think it's crazy. I think what the question is like counsel, what do you value? Because remember they tried to counsel Chappelle, but here's the thing. They tried to take from Chappelle what he never valued, which was Hollywood. Hollywood. So once they saw they couldn't take, Chappelle is bigger than he's ever been. Yeah. And he doesn't, he, he's like, I don't care. I don't care about movies. I don't care if I'm the leading man in the movie. Guess what I can do. I'm gonna sell these tickets. I'm gonna put it up and I'm gonna sell these tickets. I'm gonna sell like 20,000. That is what they cannot take away from you. That is it. If you, if them people rock with you, they can't take that away. They can't. They can take your Instagram page. They can take your Facebook page. They can say YouTube page. They can take it all. If the people rock with you, it don't, it don't matter. You can't, you can't, you can't tell 10,000 people, hey, don't go see him no more. Right. You can't. Right. You know what I'm saying? It's up to them. Right. And if they not as an offended as you are about whatever that is, they still gonna show up. And they rock with you. They're gonna go, they're gonna thumb the nose up and say, we going anyway. We going anyway. We gonna support our brother. We gonna support. Who's going to stop us? Keep it real. Yeah. Just keep it real. I hate to say this. Our Kelly get out of jail right now and do a tour. He going to sell out everywhere. Yes. I don't know if he going to get out anytime soon. He not getting out. But I'm saying if. What you call my pardoning? Who? Trump. Trump not going to pardon chaos. I ain't going to lie. If he do though, he might get a third turn. He might get a third turn, man. I don't think so though. No man, Kills ain't getting out of that, man. He ain't getting out of that. Not even a chance to. He ain't getting out of that. Did you lose out an opportunity with Kevin Hart over an old tweet? Yes. What you tweet? How you know about that? We know about everything. I don't think I've ever talked about that. Yeah, I did. God, what you. So what it was was Heartbeats Productions was doing some project where they were getting all these comedians together. It's crazy because this happened right around the time where he was the Oscars or something he was supposed to host. I want to say this was maybe a few months after that. They reached out to me and it was something that they were supposed to be doing with a group of comedians where they was putting us all together. And I never really got the full details of what it was exactly we were supposed to be doing. And I remember the guy that I was talking to that was booking for it. Well, you know, we were going back and forth. He was like, hey, we'll have a contract ready for you Tuesday. And then Tuesday came and I didn't hear nothing. So Wednesday came. I needed this money at the time. They was talking about, I think it was about $7,500. I needed that. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So I called again. I was like, what's going on with the $7,500? Y'all got the contract. And he was like, man, we did a social media swipe. Yeah. And we came across some tweets from 2013 that... Man, that was 12. That was 11, 12 years ago. When they no comedian at that point. Right. So they said that the tweets were potentially homophobic, but they weren't homophobic. It was what happened was it was a dude on Twitter. It used to be this app they used to have way back then around that time, 2011, 2012. And it was an app called Ask Me. And people could ask you questions unanimously. You wouldn't know who it was. And it was a homosexual guy asked me a question and I was like, I'm not with that. And maybe the way I worded it wasn't politically correct. But I didn't say anything bad about the community because I had nothing bad to say about them. Like they come to my shows. I include them in the shows. Like I gave people in my family. Right. You know what I'm saying? So that was the tweet. So I went and I found a tweet. And I had to go through this whole thing of showing that I wasn't that... And they passed up on me and they asked me, did I know any other comedians in Chicago that I could recommend? No, I don't. For this project. No, I didn't do that. I did not do that. No, no, no. I sent them, you know, at the time I was working with this comedian named Katie Wilson. And she was from Chicago and I recommended her. Right. And they ended up picking her up for the project and she went and did it. Did you break you off a little something? No. For recommendation? No. Finders fee? No. Damn. She gave me nothing. But it's okay. I didn't want nothing. Do you know what? The fact that I was able to help her get something. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It was okay. You know, I'm one of those people that believe was for me, is for me. Absolutely. And that, you know. That wasn't for you. It wasn't for me. Right. It wasn't for me. I don't even think I had ever seen that project even come out. Right. Into, you know, being anything, you know what I'm saying? So I think they, I know they still got paid but. Have you sent scrub, your social media, anything? Have you gone back and looked at some site but damn. No, after that I did. Bro, after that, bro, let me tell you something. Once I learned how to do it. Especially on Twitter. Once I learned how to, you know, look up stuff, type in keywords with your name. Yeah. And, you know, you just see stuff that come up. And it wasn't like that I had to take down, but it was stuff that at that moment I was like, I don't never want this to happen again because it's something that I said or I tweeted. When I was, I don't know how you are not mobile. I'm saying, I said something in my early twenties when I was a teenager. Yes. And they're holding against me now, but that's what they say. I mean. And I think the tweet that they were talking about, I was 23 years old. Damn. So I didn't, bro, at that time, I'm telling you, it's changed so much. Yeah. You know, at that time it was fine. I didn't say nothing wrong, you know what I'm saying? But I think they were trying to be so careful about it where they was like, and then Kevin had just had that situation. So, you know, heartbeat is his company. And I just think they were just trying to avoid anything that was going to bring that back up. You also had the opportunity to tour with Martin Lawrence. What was that experience like? Martin the real OG, you know what I'm saying? You know, Martin is one of those ones that's kind of, he knows who he is. He knows what he's done. So it don't matter how good you are, who you think you are, when you come up on this show, you can go and destroy it. And when you come back, Martin will be back there clapping for you. Congratulations. I love to see what you're doing. He's going to go up there and do his thing. He's called me for different projects. I mean, and it really, you know, Martin, one of my all-time, you know, favorite comedians. So I remember we was doing a show in Milwaukee and he had a joke. And he went one way with it and I'm like, it might be funny if he said this. And I'm like, I'm going to tell him. And I seen him and I was like, hey, OG, I think, you know, the new joke you say there? Like, man, if you say this, I think it hit harder. And the next show we did, we was at Milwaukee and he did it. He did what I, you know, what I had suggested. And I remember we come up, I went up to his dressing room and he was like, Mojo, I did your joke. And I was like, how do he was like, it hit. And after that, every time I seen him, he was doing it. So he not, he not one of them dudes that I'm up here and then somebody, yeah, you can't tell me, bro, you can't tell me. No, Martin, he respects the younger generation. That means it's coming up. He respects, you know, the perspective that we have. And it's like, hey, if this was, you say this is going to work right now, I'm going to do that. So, no, Martin Lawrence is the truth. I did a project with him and he was real quiet. He didn't do a whole lot of talking. You know, when I came in, I went to a dressing room and I said, well, Martin here. And so I stopped by and I said, what up, Martin? You know, so forth and so on. He's like, hey, how you doing, Shaw? Congratulations to all your success, blah, blah, blah. And he's really quiet. Yeah. He really quiet. He didn't really do a whole lot of talking. But to see him when it's like, they say, action. He go. He go. And I mean, he go from like, he like here and get the right here and then he back to right. Right back there. Yeah. It ain't, he not up here all day. Nope. People would think that he is. But yeah, Martin real cool. He is. He real chill. He not, yeah, he, he, Martin, I mean, that was one of the, you know, meeting him was dope. And how kind he was to my family, to my daughter. Man, yeah, Martin one of them ones. Are the inner similarities to way Martin conducts his show to where, compared to how Mike does this? Yes, it's just, it's just two totally different shows. You know, Mike, Mike. Mike up here all the time. Mike, who? Listen, who y'all see Mike Evans in, is in that movie? In the movies. That's him. That's Mike. That's him. On a regular Tuesday. Yes. You know what I'm saying? Like, I done talked to Mike on the phone. And it's the same. We talk on the phone. He animated it. Yeah. It's just, that's just who he is. It ain't, when he get on stage, it's not, the man is not doing jokes. He talking. Yes. You know what I'm saying? And he just, he's just funny. Where Martin is, you know, it's a little bit more, you know, structured. Martin is out there really trying to, you know, he's really doing his material. And then Martin has a way shorter show. Martin, like, seven people ain't going up for Martin. Yeah. You might get two or three. Yeah. You know, Mike, you know, get as many of, you know. He's trying to put as many young people on. Is he could? Yeah. You know, you gotta think, on the, we don't want, it's me, DC, Carlos, Chico, you know, and then they got Nav Green and they got, who else, Judge Niche, Jaseky. I mean, it is, it is. Yeah. It's about eight or nine of you guys. A bunch of us. You know what I'm saying? And he go after all of us. So, yeah, it's a, it's two totally different vibes. Give me a mouth rush, more comedians. Now, you know, you kind of like, I mean, you, you, you find the sweet spot because you kind of got more of this generation, like say, like the last 10, 15 years. I don't know how much prior you saw. I don't know how much Murphy you saw. How much Louis CK or Carlin Cosby. Yeah. You're a real, you're a real comedy. Yeah, I love it. Con Sua. I love it. You know, my mouth rush more of comedians of all time. Yeah. All Mooney. All time. I'm going to say Eddie Murphy. Yep. I love, love everything that Eddie did. I'm going to go Eddie Murphy. I'm going to go Bernie Mac. How many we get on the Mount Rushmore? Four. Five. Four. Four. Eddie Murphy, Bernie Mac. I'll let you do top five. Give me your top five. Top five. Eddie Murphy, Bernie Mac. Mm-hmm. Kevin Hart. Yep. Mike Epps got to go on there. Richard Pryor. And I know, I know with somebody that I didn't get to. Well, you did leave off what you called them. Who? We just talked about it. Martin? No. Martin need to be on there too. Whoa. You put Martin. I did. Martin, Lawrence, Eddie Murphy, Kevin Hart, Mike Epps, Richard Pryor. Who leave off? Chappelle. Okay. Because a lot of people, because you know what, I've had a lot of competing, people like a lot of guys won't put Chappelle on because they say he's a contemporary. See, it's hard for me to put, they say it's hard for me to put. Let me tell you where I'm at on the Chappelle thing. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I love Dave Chappelle. Dave Chappelle's style of comedy, for me, is not like it's not, everybody got a style that they like. So you think about, you think about everybody that I just, that I'd name. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Martin Lawrence, you got to think, you go watch the old Martin Lawrence. What I liked about him was the, the crowd work stuff that he used to do on Def Comedy Jam was boom, boom, bang. Dave Chappelle, how you thinking? He a storyteller. But he, how you thinking about stuff that you ain't, you ain't thought about? So you laugh him, but damn, then you leave like, damn. They is out here playing with us, man. So Dave, how you, you know, Dave, how you thinking? And sometimes when I watch comedy, bro, I don't want to think. I just want to laugh. You just want to go bang, bang, something. Yes. That's what I want. And there ain't nothing wrong with that. You know what I'm saying? Because my guy Ryan Davis is the same way. Yes. You know what I'm saying? And it takes, it takes him two, three minutes to set the joke up. Set it up. But then when they get there, it's like art. It's like, oh, I'll say how you did that. But you know, a lot of times, you know, you just want to get in. I love to hear a good story. That was one of the things that I always loved about Kevin Hart. I felt like he was one of the best storytellers that I've ever seen. Yeah. If there's anyone that you haven't met that you like, man, I sure would like to meet. Eddie Murphy. I would love to meet Eddie Murphy. Eddie really reserved. I've heard that. Yeah. I would love to, I would love to meet Eddie and Kat. I haven't met Kat. You haven't met Kat? I haven't met Kat. I'm trying to, but you know, like we were both in Memphis at the same time. You seen when I got there late, but I was going to try to pop over to his show and say what's up. But yeah, Kat and Eddie are two that like, I got to meet. Right. Bernie Mac from Chicago. Yeah. And you know, you saw him early in those movies, house party movies. You see him in Friday. It's just something about his delivery. Yeah. He's at you. Yes. He can tell a story, but mainly he's just, yeah. And from the time that he went up there and he said, I ain't scared. I ain't scared. I ain't scared. His life changed. You know how many times I watched that over and over again? Bro, Bernie Mac, I was in the fifth grade when Kings and Comedy came out. Yeah. And I had no idea that comedy was what I would want to do when I got older. I used to play football. You know what I'm saying? So I had no idea that, you know, I wanted to be a comedian. And after watching Kings and Comedy, I think we was on like spring break. And then we came back to school. I was doing Bernie Mac whole set in the fifth grade in front of everybody. Wow. In front of everybody. That right there single-handedly was like, because we used to, you know, my parents used to always have Def Comic Jam and Comic View all the time. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And I used to always be like, hey, this is cool how they do that. But it was never like, I want to do that. I just always thought it was cool. But when I did, when I came to school and, you know, we used to stand outside before we go into school and I had all the kids circled around me. I was doing Bernie Mac whole set. Like it was my own. Right. You know what I'm saying? And that was, that was like, today I can say that was when I fell in love with this. Oh, this is going to be really hard. Give me your top five comedians to have TV shows. Bernie Mac, Martin, Jamie Foxx, Cosby, Red Foxx, Steve Harvey, Damon Waynes, Dave Chappelle, Sid, Eddie Griffin, Chris Rock, Monique DL. You get a five. All right. So I'm going to take Martin Lawrence. Okay. I feel like Martin is the greatest. Martin. That's Martin. Every time I'm flipping the channel and I see Martin on. I got to watch it. Yep. Even if I seen the episode, I got to watch it. Got to watch it. So I'm going to say Martin. Okay. I love the Jamie Foxx show. Okay. That's two. Jamie is another one I want to meet too. I haven't met him yet. So Martin, Jamie, I used to like Steve Harvey show. Mr. Hightower. Who else? Dave Chappelle. I used to love the Chappelle show. And then I get one more. You get one more. Comedian TV show that I used to like. Monique. Yes. Monique. It's a little Monique. You used to chasing after the professor over. You do remember like, I don't know how much you saw. But Sam from the sun. I ain't ever see that. That shit was hilarious. Really? Oh my God. It was crazy. When that was coming on in the 80s. 70s. Okay. Yeah. You know I ain't seen that. He had a very short run because you know they were messing with the money. They ain't paying nobody back there. Yeah. Yeah. They ain't really pay him and you know Redd ended up leading. You know. Redd Fox though. When they put him in hard. I like when like if you look at what Eddie does in Harlem Night. You look at who he had. Delaree's. Bro. Him. Well Eddie put the thing on. He had Richard Pryor. He had Robin Harris. He had I think Ronaldo Ray was in it. I mean he had everybody. Charlie Murphy. And that's what we need. Art video hall. That's what we need right now. You go back and look at life. Life was. You talk about Bernie Mac. Bro. You know how many people don't really understand that Bernie Mac was playing the gay man in life. J. L. A. J. L. A. J. L. A. You know what I'm saying like. Bro. If somebody played a character like that today. No. And he played. Hey. And he played the character. And he didn't have to do nothing crazy. No. We didn't never see him. We ain't never see him do nothing crazy. And we didn't think after he played that part that he was that part. Well now that you brought it up. Okay. Comedians wearing dresses. I knew you were going to ask me about this. You know what. Black comedians wearing dresses is really what the. That's what it's about. Because when the white was doing. Robin Williams did it. You know. And. I feel like I'll be a hypocrite to sit here and be just so against it. And it's so wrong when. I like big mama house. Yes. You know what I'm saying. Yeah. You know. So. And he played all had the characters in. Oh. And the professor. And the professor. He played Rasmusia in a Norbit. In Norbit. You know what I'm saying. So. You know. I feel like this man. If if if. If that's what you want to do. Right. Do what you want to do. Right. You know what I'm saying. Make your money. I'm. Who am I to tell you how to get your money. Right. If it worked for you. Do it. But don't do it. Don't don't don't don't don't don't compromise who you truly are. Like don't have nobody out here got you doing it. And you ain't you ain't getting nothing from it. Right. You know what I'm saying. If you're not about to if if if if it ain't about to change the trajectory of your career. Right. You know what I'm saying. Or. Because you see the Wham's when they did white chicks. White chicks. Was that not great. It was great. I mean. It was great. I mean. And I'm not saying that I'm about to go put no dress on anytime soon. Right. Something like that. But what I'm saying. That would be your choice though if you do. That would be my choice. Regardless of what anybody say. You know what I'm saying. And I think the problem is is that it's so many comedians mad at other comedians for doing stuff that they're not willing to do. Okay. If you ain't willing to do it. So why do you care. Why do you care. Right. This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two is also posted and you can access it to whichever podcast platform you just listen to part one on. Just simply go back to club chachay profile and I'll see you there.