Two Hot Takes

252: Not Nice! Ft. Charlie Berens

102 min
Jan 22, 20263 months ago
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Summary

Morgan and comedian Charlie Berens analyze Reddit relationship stories from the Two Hot Takes subreddit, judging whether people in various situations were 'nice' or not. They discuss topics ranging from storytelling accuracy in relationships to infidelity, traditional gender roles, and communication breakdowns, with Charlie sharing his Midwest perspective and comedic insights throughout.

Insights
  • Relationship conflicts often stem from unresolved emotional wounds (like rejection during proposals) that manifest as passive-aggressive behavior rather than direct communication
  • Humor and comedic deflection in intimate situations can mask deeper incompatibility or unwillingness to engage authentically with a partner's needs
  • Financial interdependence creates barriers to leaving unhealthy relationships, forcing people to stay until practical circumstances (lease expiration, etc.) allow exit
  • Traditional gender role expectations are increasingly incompatible with dual-income households, creating conflict when one partner wants traditional dynamics without traditional financial contribution
  • Mirroring problematic behavior back to someone is an effective but risky strategy for creating self-awareness in relationships
Trends
Rise of 'tradwife' influencer culture creating unrealistic expectations for traditional relationships in modern dual-income economyGenerational shift in relationship expectations: younger couples struggle with unresolved attachment issues from early dating (10+ years together from age 15)Passive-aggressive communication patterns replacing direct conflict resolution in long-term relationshipsFinancial gatekeeping as a control mechanism in relationships where one partner earns significantly moreEmotional infidelity and attraction to alternatives emerging when primary relationship lacks authentic engagementMidwest cultural values (niceness, conflict avoidance, family loyalty) creating tension in modern relationship dynamicsReddit as a platform for relationship validation-seeking and narrative control in conflict situations
Topics
Relationship Communication PatternsPassive-Aggressive Behavior in PartnershipsFinancial Interdependence and Relationship DynamicsTraditional vs. Modern Gender RolesProposal Rejection and Emotional RecoveryInfidelity and Emotional AffairsFamily Boundary SettingConflict Avoidance in Midwest CultureRole-Playing and Sexual CompatibilityControlling Behavior in RelationshipsStorytelling Accuracy vs. Narrative FlowDivorce Decision-MakingEmotional Validation in RelationshipsMidwest Nice CultureReddit AITA Subreddit Dynamics
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People
Charlie Berens
Comedian guest discussing relationship stories and sharing Midwest perspective on relationship dynamics
Morgan
Host of Two Hot Takes podcast analyzing Reddit relationship stories with Charlie Berens
Quotes
"You can't have a traditional wife when my friend goes 50-50 on all the bills and works more hours than he does. He isn't a traditional husband and can't provide for his household like he's supposed to."
Morgan (paraphrasing OP's response)Final story discussion
"It sounds like he wants another mommy and not a wife."
OP in final storyFinal story
"I've never felt anything like that before. It wasn't butterflies. It literally felt like white sparks behind my eyes and this deep feeling in my chest."
OP in second story updateSister kiss story
"Nobody wants to hear what you have to say unless you're helping."
Charlie BerensFinal story discussion
"If you're going to pretend like you want that traditional, like I just watch Yellowstone and I think I know how to ride a horse. If you got that in you, then just suck it up."
Charlie BerensFinal story discussion
Full Transcript
My name is Sherlock Holmes. It's unusual, isn't it? Introducing Young Sherlock, a new guy-richy series. What game are we playing today? Discover the origins. It's leaving. Those days aren't really behind me. Of crime's most iconic mind. There has been a break in. A stumbling. You should be a detective. Starring hero finds Tiffin, Donald Finn and Colin Firth. If you start wearing a hat like that, I will no longer be friends with you. Young Sherlock, new original series, watch now only on Prime Video. I'm not so much of a blanket guy. Not a blanket guy? Not one other people are looking. Why? Yeah. Your dogs are covered. My dogs are covered. My dogs are covered. My dogs are covered. That's one of my favorite phrases when you're on your feet all day. My dogs are barking. No, I don't know. There's just something about can I put my feet up or no? Yeah. I don't know that I want to do that either. That might put me in like a bad, I won't get my feet up. Your legs are so tall, they just kind of dangle off anyways. They dangle off. I won't chance it. Are you sure? I might chance it. Yeah, no. I think you do need to get comfy. That's what it's all about. Yeah. I like this. It's cool. Flowers. Flowers. Horse trophy. You're duck that I'm sending you home with today. That's a wood duck. No, I can't take that. That's from your dad's set. Start my dad's set. You guys, welcome back to another episode of Two Out Takes. I'm your host Morgan. Today, I've got Charlie Barons and I just took Charlie for a fricking tour of the neighborhood here because I forgot all my hard drives and memory cards at home. Really nice, really nice neighborhood. Yeah. So me and Charlie, we're like this after a nice little car ride. We're tight. Yeah. Yeah, luckily you don't have car anxiety because I could have sent you. Car's at? No, I don't. Yeah, my car is a little… I'm sorry to call you on like that. A little fancy. Really nice. Thank you. You can get a back massage. Does it do a butt massage? I didn't get the butt massage. I got the back massage. Yeah, no, it's never booked my butt. I'm sorry we got all personal information on this. I'm not actually surprised. I'm not surprised. Yeah. It should. It may. It may not know that function yet. I've got a great massage place down the street though. Oh yeah. Yeah, 35 bucks. Come on. It's so good. I'm telling everyone about it. not a best kept secret anymore. Maybe I'll go there. Yeah, it fits with Midwest cheap. It's definitely Midwest cheap. Nice. Yeah. What's it called? Five star hand and foot. I think. Cool. Not a sponsor? Are they a sponsor, Beyonce? No, no, I wish. I know there, I mean $35. It's so cheap that you're just like. Yeah. You go in there. It's a good time. But yeah, it's right down the street. Not too good of a time, though, right? Not a place not, no, Charlie. No, I'm just saying. Five star foot and body massage. Okay. Not a hand. Okay, yeah, because I don't ... One time, I went into a place ... Okay. ...for a massage. Oh ... ...and that was offered ... ...and I was like ... ...absolutely not ... What ... ...how did they broach that with you? They just ... ...like ... ...with this massaging ... Oh ... And then just put arm on Boo Barrier. Oh. And I was like, this is this kind. And I had never been in that situation before. Where were you? What's day? I was in the greater Milwaukee area. Milwaukee? And then she made it, no, I was like, now that's not my, it's not, I don't, you know. I thought that was fake. Like I had a friend that got one actually in not Thailand, Taiwan. Taiwan, okay. But like, I don't know, it's out of Milwaukee. That's how it's kind of a creepy thing. Cause then you're like, ah, this is your thing, you know. Yeah. There's got to, you know, there's got to weird stuff in that. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So plus, it was going to cost more, you know, size like. You're like, no chance. Charlie has an amazing special that recently came out super good. Thank you. I'm like halfway through it and I need to finish it. So I'm like, okay, we got to get this wrapped up so I can finish it. But you talk about so many like just nostalgic Midwest things. You go on a little AI rant, which I love. I deeply resonate with that. And you talk about all these little rabbit holes that you, you get into on the internet. I mean, it's a really good special. Thank you. That's really sweet that you. I love the comments. Do you familiar? Are you listening? Everything nice. You have the nicest people in your comments. I pay them. Do you? That's why I don't spend money on other things. I have to bribe people to enjoy my stuff. To enjoy yourself. Your money is right over by the wood duck, by the way. Is that where it is? Yeah. In the wood duck? Yeah, it's right. I left it right under the wood duck. Yeah. It's a novel. Okay. Make him look really good and the two how it takes at it. Okay. I see. I'm catching on. Nice. I mean, I think it's a great idea to get into these stories with you, you know, being from, I know, unfortunately, you're from Wisconsin. But the Minnesota nice kind of translates over there sometimes. It's also kind of like a Midwest nice, I feel. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So Midwest nice. You guys just kind of decide to slap your name on it, you know? I mean, it is Minnesota nice. We didn't slap our name on it. It just, it is. You also brag about having 10,000 likes like it's an accomplishment. Well, there's way more than 10,000. We're just, we're humble. I'm not going to oversell it. So it's a humble brag is what that is. Yeah. We're modest. Okay. Modest Midwesterners. Do you miss Minnesota ever being out here all the time? Sonny Lausanne, do you? All the time. I miss the snow. Miss the 40 below. Yeah. Chauveling. My snot getting frozen. Yeah. Everything. Wow. Everything about it. I'm sensing a little bit of sarcasm right now. No. No. No. I miss seasons. Like, when it rains out here, it's like the best time ever. I was in Bemidji, Minnesota. Beautiful. Beautiful area. And I was hiking on a path through the woods. I like doing that. I like going on hikes. And there in the middle of the path was a perch still warm, flopping around in the winter. How did it get there? Well, I inspected the perch and it had a couple talent holes in it. Oh. So I found a little crack in the ice, kind of by the shore. Yeah. And I kind of squeezed it back in there. You think it was going to make it with the talent holes? No, probably not. But maybe it had a few good breaths left in them. But it was still flopping around. I mean, so that, he must have just dropped in. Who knows from what height, you know? Honestly, that poor bird, that would have been a really, really good meal. I know. Maybe since he wasn't a man. But you know what, there's some, there's some muskie in there that was nice snack. Yep. Nice snack. Yeah. Okay. I do have kind of an interesting thing that my listeners wanted me to do with you before we get started with today's stories. Okay. These are all words that we say on this show that people tell us we don't say properly. And so I want to get your take on all of these words to see, to see what your thoughts are. Okay. So just go down the list, say I'm, how you would usually say them. Okay. Sorry. All right. Bag. Ruin. Ruin. Toyota. Coke. Boat. Milk. Plough. Roof. Egg. Hamak. Bag. Sauna. Although some people said Sauna or some weird thing. That's up in the UP. Those are the Upers. Pitch. Pitch. Picture. Why are you laughing? That's the way you're supposed to say it. Picture. Yeah. The way my grandpa would say it. Picture. Yeah. Picture. Like a picture of yours. Yeah. One of us. So like all of me and my co-hosts were like basically all from Minnesota. Yeah. So everyone makes one of us. They don't make fun. They should make fun. That's not rural. Oh. What do you call a drink you get from McDonald's? All you want me to say this is the soda or the pop debate. Yeah. What do you say? So I'm a soda guy myself. However. What? Mm-hmm. My grandpa was a pop guy and we say pop. Yeah. Can you get pop? Yeah. So no. I grew up a soda guy. Okay. I grew up a casserole guy. I know you grew up poppin' hot dish. Hot dish. Yeah. My family wasn't a big hot dish family. Really? If they did, it was. Yeah. We had a lot of it. They are hot hot dish. Oh, sure. Castorol, though. Green bean casserole. It was a lot of green bean casserole. I'm not a fan of the green beans. They are tough. They are tough. They are tough. Since I got your phone, should we check out your Uber review? What you are rating is? It's like 4.96. Damn you, Buck. Yeah. Someone just told me about that. I heard my feeling one day. I have a 4.91. That's pretty good. Don't say that. Don't say it like that after you just said you have a 4.96 and you are upside. about it. Now, well, I'm really nice to my Uber driver. I try to be nice too. My problem I think is, I've been tardy. I think I've been tardy too. If I were to, because I'm always really nice and friendly, one guy I was overtocking to. I was asking him, you too many questions and he's like, shut up. He was like, no, he was like, man, what's your problem? And I was like, I was just making conversations. He's like, you're asking too many questions. I was like, okay, never mind. Yeah. Yeah. I'm bad day. Walk up on the wrong side of the bed. Yeah. Or, you know, he was running a front, you know, like he's working for the CIA or something. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe a little money laundering. Could be. I don't know how you do that with Uber, but okay. Okay. I learned that there's, you don't want to be too vague with your Uber drivers. You don't want to be like, how do you like this job? Ben doing a lot of rides. You want to go deeper than that, but you don't want to go too deep. Okay. You know, I feel like I probably have it mastered, given the 4.96, but well, I'll keep that in mind. Yeah. More humble bragging going on from the state of Minnesota. I don't know what was wrong with me today. I'm just like kind of on it. But you know a thing or two about being nice clearly. You're pretty nice to your Uber drivers and people. So we're going to be judging all these Reddit stories today and seeing, are they nice or not? That's nice. Yeah. All right. Get intentions, bad intentions. We're just going to see what the read is on all these. That's cool. Yeah. I like that. Yeah. That's fun. That's a fun concept. Okay. Here we go. Let's dive in. Let's do it. Karma. When it comes to your money, credit karma keeps you ahead of the game. You can count on credit karma to keep up with your financial needs as they evolve. They'll help you monitor your progress and give personalized recommendations so you can make strides towards your goals and find your way to money. Make sure you're on the right track no matter where you are on your financial journey into it. Credit Karma. Karma. You can count on. I love tracking my score on credit karma. I actually found out that's how I missed a payment. Thanks credit karma. Okay. Here we go. Okay. Story number one for us. Did anyone warn you what you're getting into today? Oh, yeah. I listened to quite a few episodes. You did? Yeah. Yeah. I love it. It's great. Okay. Here we go then. Great concept. My sister's a fan too. I didn't know it. What's your sister's name? Bridget. Hey, Bridget. Ciao. Nice. Okay. That's my Christmas present right now. Yeah. Yeah. Better not. I'm gonna clip it and say see. You got to get Bridget something way nicer than me saying hi. No, come on. This first one is coming from Am I the jerk? It is titled Am I the jerk for asking my partner to stop correcting my storytelling in front of friends? My partner Eli 30 mail has this habit. Whenever I tell a story, he fact checks it in real time. Example me it was like midnight Eli actually it was 1142 me we walked like two miles Eli it was 1.3 miles me the restaurant was packed Eli it was busy not packed it kills the vibe every time last week I was telling a funny travel story to our friends and he interrupted five separate times. Finally, I just said quote can you please stop correcting me it's not a documentary. Later he told me that I embarrassed him because I made it look like he's nitpicky. I said you are nitpicky. He said I'm asking him to tolerate inaccuracies. I said I'm asking you to tolerate a normal human story. Now he's annoyed and says I'm attacking his communication style. Wow. Am I the jerk? Wow. That is no I don't think I don't think she's the jerk because that's especially as a comedian you know you kind of you'll exaggerate some stuff you heightened to get to the punch line you know or you usually height like it's true true true and then your punch line times it's like an exaggerated thing but that's what makes the story good you know and nobody cares if it's 1.3 miles or two miles or whatever but I just love this as like a hole in it like that's a sketch right there at the guy who corrects your stories. You have some ideas. Yeah I mean I could just see that I just want to see this whole interaction as a sketch play out. Yeah but no definitely it's no now her though correcting checking him in public that you know kind of is just doing what he's doing you know because it's like a public sort of like calling you a liar in public it just makes it awkward for everyone. So awkward because then it's like this person's line it just it gets to feel really weird and uncomfortable but now that she's also checking him it's like oh now they're the bickering like couple that's fighting in public. Yeah they're like I think I'm gonna put my like so actually so yeah what I think is that it's always awkward for other people around when you do it you know so whoever was doing the checking I think that's not the nicest thing in the world it's not the worst thing in the world but I just I anytime I'm like in a conversation with a couple and they're getting into like a passive aggressive fight I love it. Do you? Why? I just love watching how people interact in that situation. Do you not feel awkward? Yeah but if you get past the awkward and you just sit in it and you just like see it almost like you're watching like a TV show it's way better you know. Yeah see like I would never say anything in public I'd get home and be like can you please stop doing that to me. Oh okay so that's the way you would have you ever like checked your husband in public though. Nothing's coming to mind. Did something just come to mind and you decided not to disclose it. No I'm like genuinely I'm like kind of thinking I'm like is there anything? I don't think so. Okay I don't think so. We like he's actually one of my best sidekicks like I don't go to things unless I get a plus one. One I'm way too socially awkward and shy. I hate going to events or anything alone but two he just does a good job kind of like bouncing the conversation around and kind of you know being a little hype man and doing that job but I don't really think there is anything. He kind of carries his own makes friends he makes more friends when we go out than me. He's the extra burden relationship. Yeah I'm like I just learned about this there's like extrovert introvert and one other one that I'm forgetting about. Oh I there was a new story about it. What is that what's that one? I like omnivirt or something pervert. I feel what it is. Omnivirt because I remember seeing it and I was like omnivore is a thing but what's an omnivirt. Yeah and I forget it's like someone likes to play video games or something. Ambivirt. Someone who exhibits qualities of both introversion and extroversion falling in the middle. Okay maybe there's four though. I think omnivirt is another one but I like that we had to title it. You know I know it's like the participation trophy. I love a participation trophy. You big participation trophy. Yeah I want to feel good. I want my flowers. I like that. You know I might not have got first in soccer but I still ran around. Sure. I kicked some stuff. Yeah you you were there. I was there. You were there showing up to something multiple times. That's hard. No I mean it's a minute so it doesn't make sense. You guys want that participation super both trophy and one did oh sorry sorry. I'm gonna go put my Vikings jacket on. You lost yesterday. Shut up. I know I just had to find some way to slip it in. Now we're done. Got that out of my sister. Did you find out what it is or no is it on? It is ambivirt. Ambivirt's one. Okay that's fine. They're often overlooked. More than 80% of us are actually ambivirts. We're all overlooked. It's probably being human. I know I know. Especially by birds. Omnivirt is one too though. Okay I just made that up and it didn't work. That's great. No look at there. Here's the four of them. Oh there's the four of them. Okay. Merriott. Ambivirt. Omnivirt. Extrovert. All right. So you're on it. You're cultured. I thank you. Well I read that one news story. Yeah no so that's a whole thing. So no there's nothing he's done that I can think of that I've had to go home and yell at him about. That's good. Sometimes my mom will fact check my dad. My dad can you know he can he can exaggerate his story because he's a Wisconsin B. S. Sir. Okay. And he'll be getting going and my mom will just take the piss out of it and it's hilarious. And my dad just completely ignores it and just keeps going with the story. So they figured it out. They just got leaned into it. You know. I like that. Yeah. That so doesn't phase them. No no no. It's part of their bit at this point. It's part of their bit. Yeah. Okay well I don't know if anyone was being mean here. I don't think OPR writer was the jerk. I feel like they were just kind of at their wit's end with it. Yeah. Yeah it's something that they should talk to their therapist or bartender about I think you know. That's a good idea. Yeah. Yeah. What do you think about him though saying that our writer is attacking his communication style. Attacking is to get over it. Just get over it. Attacking my communication style. Come on. You don't need to put a label on everything. I think get over it. Okay. You're just sensitive. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think you see that. Top comment on this one. He's not correcting inaccuracies. He's derailing social interaction. Storytelling is about flow, not time stamps. If he needs that level of precision, he can write a report, not interrupt you mid sentence. Exactly. Like what is he a journalist? You know. Yeah. He's working for the New York Times or whatever. Also. Also she can start you know. While he's hanging out with his fellas. Yeah. Be like actually more like five and three quarters. You know. And so like I'm sure. I'm sure he's throwing out inaccuracies in his life. And maybe she should just start giving him a taste of his own medicine. Okay. And start correcting him. That's all a good thing. You just mirror what the other person is doing until they see themselves and then change their reflection. Wow. Okay. Who's essence? You're okay? Yeah. No. I'm like I'm sitting here. I have to take it in because I really felt like a big like I don't know like a Confucius level like. Like. Like mic drop kind of moment. Nice. Really? Yeah. I'm like now I just have more questions. I'm like how how do you do that? Like how do you mirror that effectively? Really? Yeah. Crazy. She just starts like listening to everything he says and calling him out in the same way. Any inaccuracy. It was only point nine. It wasn't a full mile. Yeah. I'm talking about. Right. Right. Because he's gonna because people don't just lie to him. Embellish. Yeah. Sometimes they do. And makes for a good story. And that's fun. Other times they like because they forget. Or they're like yeah. We we drove out three miles. It was 2.8 miles. Well, I didn't have the odometer on. All right. You know, it doesn't impact the story. Right. I ate a bucket of cheese curds. Actually, you didn't. You left three and you didn't eat the whole bucket. Like it's like. Right. Come on. Yeah. That kills the flow. It kills the vibe. Yeah. You know what else kills the vibe? What's that? This next one. Love of the transition. Thank you. Hello, transition. This is coming from AITAH. It's like an Am I the asshole? So, Brett it. Yeah. And it's titled Am I the asshole for not wanting my husband to come with me to Italy to look at art? Because of his immaturity. I am an art history and anthropology major. And I've been planning a tour of Italy for years after I complete my studies. I plan to go see my favorite historical sites and pieces of artwork. Most of the artwork I'm interested in is Renaissance art and features a lot of naked women. Only when I try to discuss art with him, he looks at the painting and the women and says that all he sees are quote fat chicks. It is really deflating to love a piece of art and feel deeply about it and to explain that to someone who is laughing and basically making fun of it. My husband has long decided that our trip would be a couple's trip and that we would both go to Italy together to celebrate my finishing my studies. But now I'm feeling more like it would be a good solo trip. I could visit my art in peace and not have to explain the context and try and defend everything I like. He is upset. I have tried to explain to him that his reactions about the art are immature and kind of makes me not even want to discuss the art with him. And he got mad and said I was calling him unsophisticated and stupid when he really just doesn't appreciate art. I knew he would rush me through the museums and there are some pieces of artwork that I know I will want to linger with for a while. He won't understand and will force me to leave before I'm ready. Am I the asshole for not wanting him to come? Wow. This is the beginning of Italian hallmark movie. Oh, where she goes and finds her new husband? Yeah, who's going to be the curator at the museum he's just going to come over and say would you want to get some lasagna and whatever. And she's going to be like what I. And then two bottles of Sicilian wine later, she's pregnant and she probably got pregnant as soon as he was talking about those Renaissance photos there. I know. No, I mean, you know, are you the asshole for wanting to go? Depends who's paying. I think depends who's paying. Really? Well, if she's the breadwinner there and she, you know, if she's paying for the trip and he's doing that, he's got to bring some to the table as well. But if he's paying or if he's the breadwinner and he's the reason that they can go there, then I feel like, you kind of got to deal with it. You know, like that's like going with your parents to like the Wisconsin Dalles, right? You don't want to be with your folks, but you do want to like bomb through, you know, Noah's Ark. Okay. Yeah. So you got to take the good with the bad. Yeah. I know. I'm like, how could you go with him and still like get rid of him on your museum days? Like where could we send him? Yeah. Some else is going on. I mean, he just kind of sounds like a dick. Yeah. He's a bit immature. I'll say that a bit immature bit of a dick. Yeah. Yeah. Not very nice. I mean, I like the Renaissance period. It's just like he's just very immature. Like you said, I mean, I love how he turns it around too. And then is like, well, you're calling me unsophisticated and stupid. Don't act like it. You know, exactly. Just walk through the museum. Keep your mouth shut. If you don't understand it, it's probably not meant for you. Don't make a comment. Yeah. There you go. Yeah. Shut the fuck up. Right. Go to the cafe. There's really good food at art cafes. Yeah. Some about this though. We didn't add enough. It's not adding up though. Because like, what's off for you? Because you don't just go to Italy to just look at like, there's a you go to dinner. You do all that sort of stuff. So just leave them home from the part that you don't want them there for. She also doesn't want them there for the dinner and everything. Honestly, I was kind of getting that this whole trip was just like, this was an art trip. But you don't eat on art trips. But like, I feel like for someone like this, she's going to, you know, pop in a little cafe or a bistro and grab a bowl of spaghetti and then back at the museum. She goes. So you think relationships fine? No. Oh, no, I'm honestly, it's interesting to me because like, if I was with someone and like, I had this passion and they were shitting on it. Yeah. Calling the subjects of the art like derogatory things like fat chicks. And it's like, how do you get this far? Right. I'm like, maybe you weren't in art school when you started dating. And then here we are. Now you're married and you're finishing your degree, but it's just kind of like, he is kind of uncultured. Yeah. Or at least just lacks tact. And you seem pretty sophisticated given the art degree. But I don't know. I'm just confused how they got here. Yeah. And I wonder if she like, what his interests are. I'd be curious to know that. And if she like does the same thing to his interests, you know, maybe there's a little retaliatory situation going on here. Oh, okay. I'm not sure. I'm now I'm curious though that you're bringing this up. So I'm going to see if there's any comments from OP. We have some comments. Oh, nice. Sorry. He does have a very, very big hobby. He has season tickets to football. Oh, expensive. What's his team? Hmm. She didn't she just didn't include that. No mention of the team. She just said he has season tickets to football. He does take OP to one game per season. The rest, he goes with friends and stays in hotels and parties. I have never done anything in our whole marriage without him. He does expensive things monthly without me. Okay. Yeah. So clearly doing really expensive things constantly. Yeah. I mean, season football tickets. I think if you're then like, yeah, if he's doing that, you got to balance it out. She's got to go find she's got to get her Italian lover on, you know, or just go to Italy and look at art. Yeah. I think go to Italy. Look at the art. We get, oh my god. The details just keep coming on this one. Someone goes, does he love monster trucks, guns, football and beer? Maybe different people. There are other stuff he can do. That's when OP shares that he has the season football tickets. Someone goes, what? You have three kids and he's in his 40. So OP is like sharing other details all over this post. You have three kids, he's in his 40s. How regular are these football and hotel parties? Who watches the kids when he's football partying? Have him watch the three kids while you art. He watches all three children often on an extended weekend while you're away, right? As often as he goes to football games and OP goes, he has never watched the kids alone for any length of time and he likely won't let me go without him. Won't let her go. Are you kidding me? Yeah. The next comment is literally in response and it's just red flag, red flag emoji. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is, do I have to do that too? If you want to feel included. Yeah, I do. Yeah, that's, that's where I point. Because also like he can't, he can't let you do anything, especially if you're taking care of the kids. That's a huge pain in the ass. Taking care of three kids. Oh, yeah. You're really outnumbered on that one. Yeah. Yeah. They're Canadian. They're not even American. They're Canadian. Bomber. Well, that means he's doing international flights also. Oh, in last he's like seeing Canadian football, which don't really count. You know, Canadian football league CFL? Yeah. Are you a CFL fan? I didn't mean to insult you. No, okay. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like that, yeah. Right? That's the red flag of like saying he's not going to let me, you know? Like it's 50, 50 decision. It's giving very controlling. And you got to turn that in C-common. When you have three kids, you just mom and dad both explain their side to the kids and then you got three, they make their decision. That's your Supreme Court. A jury. A jury. A jury decision. Yeah, that's better analogy there. Yeah. Yeah. I think this is tough. I mean, OP keeps going in the comments. Like, I don't really want to divorce. I like my life. I just want to take a trip alone. He's not awful. He definitely is controlling, but he's not awful. He does a lot for me and shows his love in other ways. Did someone say how? I think someone's like divorce his ass. Yeah. Yeah. OP does have an edit for us. Uh-huh. We are married and have been for over a decade. I've been raising children. I've never taken any time for myself. Not even two days ever. He does not want me to go without him and is basically insinuating that our marriage will end or somehow be severely damaged if I go without him. We have gone on family vacations to Disneyland, his favorite place that I don't really like. That's a thing. But we still save up and go there every year to the same place and same vacation. My husband would rather go to Disney again than Italy. And it's too much money that he won't let me go by myself. It would basically be our yearly family vacation allowance and I'd be spending it all on myself. I just want to see all of the art I love without someone cutting it down in front of everyone and embarrassing me. He can't keep his opinions to himself. Yeah. So I'm getting the sense that this guy has like, uh, you know, works at like selling uh, no whole life insurance or something like that. And uh, you know, he's spending all the money. Like, but that's not fair because he's spending all the money on season tickets. Now if it's CFL, that's not a lot of money probably, but um, oh, you know, here comes the fact check. How much is it? How much is it? Okay. Now like the one in the first story. Oh, they're, God, it must be nice in Canada as a CFL fan average tickets. 25 to 40 bucks for two seats. All right. So yeah, that that would have been a good argument there that, um, could have gone there. But yeah, it's, I don't know. It's an expensive trip. You do feel bad taking, um, your kids away from Disney. But I mean, they've been there. They've been there. Don't need to go to Disney every year. You're fine. Yeah. You're fine. Give your kids some, um, grit. Have them start working. And then they can help pay for it. Baron Canada's troublesome snow guys. Yeah. You can work for your next Disney trip. Yeah, I feel like she should get to do it. Also, the fact that Disney is his favorite place. Is that a red flag for you? Oh, Mike, have you been to Disney? Mm-hmm. Or are you a Disney adult? I like Disney. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm probably. Yeah. No, I like it too. No, no, you don't. I like paying $50 for parking. Welcome to the happiest place on earth. I'm on a coupon. That would make me feel like this is a little bit happy. Mm-hmm. So expensive. It's too expensive. And then another thing you got to give your fingerprint. What? I went there and they had a fingerprint thing. That's new. That's creepy. When was the last time you went? Well, eight months ago. I wonder why there was this fingerprint thing. Dihos, Nika. I know they took my picture. Oh, they did. What one did you go to? Which land? Disneyland. The OG. The OG in Orlando. No. The one here in Anaheim. I've never been to the photo one. Yeah. Oh, that's the OG. The one that's here. Yeah. That's the original. Oh, I was in Ford. I was doing some shows and we were doing a video there and they made his fingerprints. That's weird. I did my middle finger as a protest. As you should. Yeah. What are they doing with your fingerprints? Biometrics. Mass surveillance. I don't know. I don't know. But Walt Disney is not dead. Cryo. Cryo. He's a back alive now. You think he's out there? Yeah. He talks like Mickey Mouse. Can you talk like Mickey Mouse? No, it's so bad. I don't know what, what was Mickey? I have to go back to I can talk like Mickey Mouse in Pentasia. You want to see? How is that impression? Okay. He doesn't talk. In Pentasia? No. It's just music. Yeah. Hilarious joke, Charlie. I know. Let's move on. I'm like, wait, does he not talk? Is that like the big trippy music video? Yeah, the dancing elephants. Right in the broom. Yeah, the broom. Yeah. No, that's that scared me. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I was freaky. You should watch it again as an adult on a gummy on a few gummies. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm like, I have to split my gummy into six. I was just going to say, don't do it off few gummies. Then it will be just as scary as it was when you were a child. I know. Yeah, just a little gummy. It would be bad. It does take you through your soul though. Pentasia does. And it's the part that resonates with you shows what's broken. It does. It sounds like you went on like an ashwagonda journey. No, I watched in ashwagonda. But pause for laughter. None. Isn't that just a town? Yeah. It didn't make sense. It was fine. It wasn't fine. Anyways, I think that where were we? Oh, yeah. That dude, Disney, socks. Yeah. I think see what Italy has to offer also. I like to hear first idea. Go to Italy. Have some lasagna with the hot art curator. Get divorced. Live in Italy. Bring your kids with you because clearly he's a dead beat. And I think he's cheating when he goes to these little football games and gets these hotels. Who's staying in the hotel with them? Why does he need a hotel? Why can't he drive home? How far these football games? Where's the drugs? Wow. Wow. Okay. I think you might be putting some stuff out there that might not be hat. We don't know that he's cheating. You don't get astrophysed. But he, I think he's projecting. I think he is going up to these little football parties and cheating. And then he's like, you can't go to Italy without me because he is worried about her meeting a hot art curator and having an affair. Yeah. Usually that's the thing, right? He's projecting the person who's worried about the most is the person that's doing it. Yep. Yeah. I might not be that far off. No, you might not. You might be destroying a perfectly unhappy marriage right now. Yeah. Just by insinuating it. Yeah, I know. Probably. I mean, it seems like, you know, a guy who like makes a lot of money and then he feels like he's, you know, like that's, I think the problem when people don't like take all the work that goes on at home, like super serious, you know, it's a pain in the ass. All the house stuff. It's horrible. And it's a full-time job. It is. And then some, an mental strain it never ends. But yeah, if you're going to like, keep a house, watch your kids. That's expensive. It is. And given that she's just finishing up school, oh yeah, married for 10 years, three kids, she probably put her dreams on hold to have the kids, raise the kids. He hasn't watched them for an extended period of time. He's a deadbeat. He's a loser. Yeah. So she put her dreams on hold and she can't even go look at a painting by herself with some peace. What are they going to do? Bring the kids to Italy too. Do you ever get the other side of the story? Sometimes. Sometimes. And very rare fun occasions. That is fun. Yeah. Really fun. Yeah. Do you find that your initial assessment is still holds? We've had some bad ones that came back and we were way off base. Yeah, we've stuck our foot in it before. But you only can go off the one side you're getting. Yeah. But you can like, you'll feel a vibe. Sometimes where you're like, this person feels like they're kind of a unreliable narrator. Like something's not out and up here. We've got some missing details. That's true. That's true. We've got my podcast is like, belly up and I'm not talking it here. But we take callers and you can usually tell the same thing. Like if they're, if we do like Midwest advice from the bar, so it's like pre casual. I love that. But some people just calling and are really like, and then you start poking a few holes and you can hear in the voice, sort of the lack of confidence in their initial thing. And then you're like, aha, we're poking holes. Oh my god. With this, you're like, you, I heard you do it before too of like, I need more details here. Yeah. It's good. It's good to poke holes in some of these things, you know. I'm with you. I like poking a hole or two. I think you've had a question. Everything, especially online. Like it's on Reddit. Yeah. You take it all with a grain of salt. Yeah. But with that salt, yeah. If you've never had a few days off, everyone needs a vacation or they start dreaming about Italian lasagna men that like boobs in their art. They appreciate it. Yeah. Yeah. I think you summed it up clearly. Yeah. You really did. Mm-hmm. Moving on to this next one. We'll see if you can poke any holes in this one. Okay. This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Just like choosing a carrot cake recipe, if you know, you know, State Farm has options to choose from to help you find the coverage that best fits your needs. Talk to a State Farm agent today to learn how you can choose to bundle and save with the personal price plan. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there. Prices are based on ratings plans that vary by state. Coverage options are selected by the customer. Availability, amount of discounts and savings and eligibility vary by state. Oh, I have so many tabs open. And then I just get indecision like paralysis because I'm like, I want it to be a really good story for you. This one I think has some holes. Yeah. No, I get stressed over here. Blood pressure is really stressed. I'm too busy looking at your ring. Holy smokes. That thing is massive. Paperweight. That'll kill someone. I know. Yeah. You didn't just get married. You got a weapon for life. Yeah. You did give me that. That was pretty good. You did good. Better than brass knuckles. Yeah. Diamond diamonds. Yeah. Yeah. This next one wanted to give a ring. It didn't really go according to plan. Okay. So this is actually coming from our very own two hot takes sub-raddit. Nice. Tied old. My girlfriend of 10 years said she needed more time when I proposed to her. Am I the asshole for checking out of my relationship ever since? My girlfriend 25 female and I 25 male have been dating for 10 years. Well, 25? Okay. Together for 10 years. Yeah. Okay. Prior to dating, we were close friends. We have known each other for almost 17 years now. Last month, I proposed to her and she said that she needed some more time to get her life in order. The whole thing shocked me. She apologized. I told her it was okay. However, I've been checking out of my relationship ever since she said no. As days pass, I'm slowly falling out of love with her and she's probably noticed it. I have stopped initiating date nights, sex and she has been pretty much initiating everything. She has asked me many times about proposing and she has said she's ready now, but I told her I need more time to think about it. She has assured me many times that we are meant to be together and that she wants me to be her life partner forever. We live together in an apartment, but our lease is expiring in a couple of months. I don't really plan on extending it and I'm probably going to break up with her then. Am I the asshole? Can you read that last part one more time about the lease? He's going to break up with it when he's when he can float it. Yeah, they live in an apartment lease expires in a couple of months. I don't plan on extending it. I'm probably going to break up with her then when it's up. Yeah, I mean, you know, are you the asshole? I mean, she's going to find out now. Yeah. Someone's going to hear this and send it to her. That's probably it. It's probably cry for help. You think they listen to the podcast together and he's like, I don't want to break up with her. I just wanted to hear it on the pod. I don't know. I always wonder about that because some people to think some people call and are think about, I mean, same here, you know, it's just because also this is a big pod. So it's not just like if she listens or not, someone she knows is going to put these pieces together. It's a pretty specific relationship. Yeah, dating since 15, knowing each other for 17 years. I mean, yeah, it's it's it. Yeah, I don't think either is an asshole in this situation. I just think you're both 25, you know, something one, right? You know, technically it brings not fully developed till like what, 26 or something. And then if you had THC into that, it's probably like 36. So I don't know. You just you don't know who you are. And his little retaliatory, well, I'm not ready now is that's kind of relationships too. There's a cat in the mouse, you know, someone's chasing someone's not, you know, in like not super maybe healthy relationships or new relationships as kind of the vibe. Yeah, for sure. And now he's kind of getting like a little bit of a power trip off the fact that she has to initiate everything. And I, you know, I think just get out of it. Oh, yeah, yeah. It is interesting. The little almost like the punishment aspect of that. Like I'm not initiating date nights or sex. Like, I'm like holding that against her. I feel like if you've been with the same person for 10 years, you don't really know who you are. Like outside of that person, I think some people do end up with their high school sweethearts and it works out great for them and magical. If you're out there, what's the secret? Tell us in the comments. But you need a little bit more explanation. It's like him with holding sex. Like, buddy, I don't think that's as big of an issue as you think it is. Yeah. Like, come on. Like, okay. He's just, he's a little salty. But I mean, she's right. Like 10 years, if it's like 25 to 35, that's I think he's more in the right to be like a lot of the ways handle isn't great. But like, it's clear they're not ready for it. They don't have, they can't have a non-conversation about it and move past it. Yeah. If you got to do a bunch of passive aggressive things for like a month or whatever, it's just time to move on. That's kind of with a top comment says top comment. If you're sure about breaking up, do it now. Yeah. Like, why are you waiting? Well, for rent. For rent. I know. But like, you just sort it out. Yeah, you can figure it out. Stay together and like fake it. You know, that's the other, that's the thing though, the economy. Like right now, like how much detergent is? Wow. And even there, though, it's gone on like like from a year ago, it's up like for a big one. It's up like, you know, 20, 30 bucks. And that should tell you how little I do my laundry because it took me that long to get through that detergent. So that's if you're really paying attention, that's a problem with me. But these clothes are clean. I promise. They can smell you're doing. Thank you. Thanks. But I think that's the reality for a lot of people, is that financially they can't get out of the relationship. And I think that's a huge problem, especially when the economy goes to hell. In reality, like, yes, you should be honest and have this conversation. Yeah. But in reality, if you just need to like, just act like everything's kind of cool until the lease comes up and then have that conversation, that's just what most people are going to end up doing. Yeah. No, it's fair. It's really tough. So I do understand the logic, especially coming from a boy brain, but he does respond to that. Do you guys hear that? Do you hear that slide? That's made up for the Super Bowl comment. Okay. Boy brain versus girlfriend. Like, we just think different. It's just it's a fact of life. Okay. So let's say that that's a girl riding in. What advice do you give her? I think the girl would break up and just want to get away. Even if she was financially strapped. Yeah. Sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. I think like, there's always that little outliers. If it's like a toxic relationship and she's got a kind of stash money away first, then I'm like, okay, well, you know, maybe it's not right away, but when it's best, but this, I feel like women emotionally check out of relationships long before they pull the plug. So I don't know. I feel like she'd just break up and go. Yeah. But now I bet I think she emotionally checked out and it's classic. Once you can't have it, you want it. I hate that. That's a human condition. I know. It's literally, it's just like the foam of it all. Like when you say no to something, you're like, it's not right. It's not like the best decision. So no. And then immediately after you're like, yeah, foam. You just mess out. You feel like you're just blowing it. And I think the worst part is when you still have in your mind time to reverse the decision, you drive yourself nuts. Whereas if it's just done, whatever the decision is, it's fine. You move past it. That might be something to be helpful for people with that foam, that gain in that foam. Oh, just make a decision. Either way, it's going to be fine. Okay. You know, it's like making the wrong turn. You just redirect thank you. It's going to call me down the next time. Oh, I wasn't man's planning there. No, I mean, I appreciate it. You've given some like really good like big pieces of it. Don't say that to me. I'll just, I'll get in my head. And then I will start man's planning. You're doing a great job. So OP responds to the person that's like, just break up. And OP says, okay, I will let her know tomorrow. We have our 10 year anniversary on Friday. And she said she has planned something really special for me the whole day. Nice. So I will let her know before then. No, what? Wait to see if 10 years figures it out. I mean, that sounds awesome right there. Boy brain. Boy brain. He's going to, I guarantee you, he's going to wait for the 10 year. Well, you know, there are a couple other comments. Just people being like, you've known each other since you were eight. You've been dating since you were 15. This old lady in me talking. But neither of you have experienced much else than each other. Yes, talk to each other. Others have said this, but you really need to work this out. It's very possible that breaking up is the best thing for both of you. You're both still young. Don't decide to get married just because you've put in the time. Yeah. OP doesn't really give any other comments. Did say something about like they went ring shopping together a few months back. So like she did know a proposal was kind of coming, but still said no. Which I think is a thing. Have you heard about ring clarity? Once you get the ring, you kind of like the blinders and everything comes off and then you're like, whoa, do I want this? That ring clarity is yeah. Guys should probably wear a ring when they get engaged too. I think they should because I want everyone to know he's off the market. Well, and also he should feel what that's like too. Yeah. I'm all about equality. Yeah, because I yeah, that ring clarity that this is real kind of a thing. This is real. Yeah, it's a constant reminder. And I even like off the market kind of, but just reminding yourself, this is happening in like X amount of months, you know. Well, OP does give us an update. Oh, wow. We got an update. It is coming 17 months later. Whoa. Almost a year and a half. Oh, man, I am this is like knowing there's a Spider-Man 2 and you haven't even watched the first one. I know. Original post was June 19th, 2024. This update came about a week ago. Can I guess? Take a guess. They're married with a kid. So I 26 male and engaged to my fiance, 26 female. We've been together for 11 years. Our biggest relationship difficulty happened last year when I proposed and she rejected me. You can check my previous post for more details. That was genuinely the worst moment of my life. Even though she apologized in the days and weeks after, she said she panicked and she did want to marry me. I was very close to ending things though. Eventually I stayed and a few months later, I proposed again and she said yes immediately and was super happy about it. But it's always been in the back of my mind how she rejected and humiliated me when I first proposed to her. So my fiance has a sister 27 female. Oh, this is so good. But I guess I'm scared. But three of us grew up almost like a trio. Growing up though, I was always closer to her sister. She always reminded me of my own sister who passed when she was 10. She asked me out once in middle school and again in freshman year of high school. But I always saw her like a sister and in sophomore year I started dating my fiance, her sister. She was nothing but supportive and was genuinely happy for us. So yeah, Thanksgiving was yesterday. I was invited. I'm close with her parents too. And we all drank, laughed, talked late at night. My fiance sister asked if we could go to another room to talk. We were both drunk, reminiscing about old memories, and she kissed me. This I keep going. And I didn't stop it. The worst part was that I've never felt anything like that before. It wasn't butterflies. It literally felt like white sparks behind my eyes and this deep feeling in my chest. It felt like my heart skipped or something like a heart murmur. It hit me so hard that even now just thinking about it, I can feel that heart murmur. I asked her today if she regretted what we did and she said not at all. And that she was just shooting her shot one last time and would respect my decision either way. And also admitted that if I did choose her, it would likely destroy her bond and her sister and also the family dynamics. But she said that it would be worth it for me. So yeah, I know it's horrible, but I'm just thinking about so many emotional moments, my fiance sister and I have shared. Like when she was there for me during my worst moments, including sleeping in a hospital chair for three days straight after I had a major accident. She asked me out, back when I was overweight, shy, and had zero confidence, I only started dating my fiance after a huge weight loss transformation, which took almost a year. But her sister never cared about any of that physical stuff. She's always been super loyal and that kiss. I can't lie, I've never felt like that ever in my life. Would it be wrong to end the engagement? I'm not delusional about consequences. I feel sick and nauseous even thinking about the fallout and the ruined family dynamics. But I would never have even thought about entertaining this if my fiance hadn't rejected my proposal last year. Ever since then, it's always been at the back of my mind. I'll get over it. The rejected proposal. Why do you ask her again if you were still so distraught about it? Well, yeah, I mean, I think that it's ring clarity, you know. He thought he was over it and then, you know, now it's getting real. Yeah, he's got in that because he's never going to get over the sister. I mean, this is like the graduate but less weird, you know. Why does all of people just keep it out of the family? Like, God, what are we doing? Yeah, I mean, also he said he said that she's like a sister to him. I know. He kept saying she's like a sister to me, a sister to me. Cheesy wife sister. So that's, you know, it's a little incestuous, you know. Right. Although I guess that's how it should be for everyone. Sort of. I don't know. I don't know what I'm saying. Oh, I know. He should probably get out and go date other people, including the sister. He should date the sister. Just for fun. Just like a little bit. Well, we do have one more update. Oh, you serious? Yeah. This is a trilogy. I know. This is cool. This is really nice. I'm going to make you wait because I'm going to go the bathroom. Oh, yeah, go go do it. I'll just drink some are you you're not going to peak? No, I'm not going to. I'm not going to look. You got the cameras up. It's like another Netflix episode that I just got to watch. You know, I'm like binging this. Okay, I love I love hearing that. Do it. Wait, before you go, do I get the gas? Do you want to gas? I want to absolutely gas. Okay. So he starts dating the sister. Relationships done toast, but he's back. The following Thanksgiving. Are we here yet? Are we at the following Thanksgiving? No, because the the first update was posted like a week ago. Oh, God, I got it. This one's like five days old. That's only oh, this is this passage. Literally. Yeah. Yeah. Just a couple weeks ago. Oh, my God. So this happened super. Okay. So he started dating the sister and then he made out with her mom. Oh, the mom's getting roped in now too. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Hey, so only posting this update because a lot of people were asking for one. Oh, I don't like the Tony voice. This will be. Oh, sorry. I'll be. No, no, no, no, no, no, I don't mean I don't mean like you have to change the tone of your voice. That's a natural tone. I'm not being sexist. What I'm saying is like your tone. The tone of your voice is telling me that like I know I would tell you make a negative. Well, it's just going to say Charlie, you might not like this. This will be my final update. Okay. That sucks. It shouldn't be. Sorry. I'm talking over you. So yes, sadly, I don't have a great update. I broke up with my fiance yesterday. And yeah, she was expectedly shocked and sort of panicking. I felt horrible seeing her cry like that and seeing that reaction. And she kept asking why? And I told her that I just don't think we're meant to be together. And that she deserves someone far better than me. Classic. She was kind of wailing and stuff. And it broke my heart. So obviously both of our families are shocked, especially because we just had Thanksgiving. And they asked a lot of questions about the wedding and our future plans, even baby names. So yeah, everyone's pretty shocked. Not everyone. I really didn't want it to become a big drama, but it sadly has become a huge drama and everyone is speculating what happened. I met with my fiance's sister last night for dinner. And we both realized the gravity of the situation. We spoke at length. And I told her that we should probably take some space and take it slow. Maybe wait a few months. And she said she was willing to wait however long. Damn. She recommended that we can move to a different state. We both work remote. So that works in our favor. And we can choose any state we like. I asked her many times if she was sure and if she had any regrets after seeing her sister's reaction. And she said that she loves her sister and that the situation obviously sucks. But that love is love and that the love we have and the deep connection we have is very rare. And now that she has had it, she would never let it go until she dies. Damn. I got those heart flutter feelings again. And this time I was sober and we didn't even kiss. It was just her words. So that's probably my final update. Thank you all for the advice. That's not the final update. We all know that's not the final update. That's just the teaser at the end of the trilogy. Like this is done. That's the end of Star Wars. And then like in five years, we're going to get a new hope or something. You know, I would really love another update like two years from now. I'd take one two weeks from now. Really? Two weeks is too soon. Yeah, because they got to move states. I kind of, yeah, they got to they got to do some stuff. They got to move states. I just want now. It's like one of the season ends and you're like, come on. Yeah. Yeah. Um, she's a handful. The sister. Yeah. I know. I've never had this love. And now I won't take a bite until I die. Yeah, come on. You haven't even slept with him yet. Yeah. She don't know. You got to test drive the car before you buy it. What are we doing? She's probably heard from the sister. How the transmission is. Don't you think? Don't sisters talk about that? For sure. So she knows. She knows right where to stop. Yeah. She had insider information. Oh my god. That's illegal. You can't inside her trade inside her trading. Bad. Only politicians can do that. Facts. Facts. Yeah. Um, move to another state. Whoa. You're going to cut yourself off from that side of the family. How could you do that? How could you just like genuinely not care about basically your whole family? Mm-hmm. For like a guy, a guy that your sister's been with for 10 years. I think she did the right thing in a weird way. The sister? Yeah. Why? I think she had a time machine. And she went back. She's 45-year-old sister. Okay. Mm-hmm. And she's coming back going back in time to rescue her sister. And she knows the only way that this guy will ever let go is if she just steps in and takes one for the team, makes out with them. And then because this guy is going to be on the wrong path too, you know, he's going to be regretting getting married. He's always going to have the fact that her sister rejected him. So he's going to start doing nose drugs and going out to Vegas every weekend, gambling a lot, terrible for their kids, starts telling her, no, you can't go to Italy to look at these pictures. And before he knows it, you know, he's a politician going to jail for insider trading because for once our laws actually worked. And then our laws work in the future. And then, so she's just doing that and just making out knowing she'll ruin it. And she's looking at the photo right now that's erasing their kids and erasing, well, it never happened. Yeah. Yeah, no. Erasing him from the family photo. Like the butterfly effect. Yeah. It's like I'll change in. Yeah. So I think she did the right thing. Yeah. I mean, the original girl, the fiance for a time dodged a bullet. I mean, this guy never would have been able to get over that rejection. No. He would have been, you know, five years down the line married with a kid and just still messing up feeling insecure about it still probably having an affair. Yeah. So yeah, dodge the bullet, but this isn't a prize worth winning. No, no. Also, 10 years. Come on. Come on. Get over it. Really? Yeah. You've been with someone for 10 years from 15 to 25. And you got those kinds of issues. Come on. Just go see what else is out there. Yeah. Do a little window shopping. I mean, and he's just hopping right back into another relationship. Like, be single. Go find yourself guys like that. Can't eat prey love. Yeah. It is tough. I'm 10 years you get used to that kind of thing. And it's hard being by yourself. I think right after. You know, but yeah, eat prey, love, you know, do psychedelics. Do what you got to do. You know, yeah. I mean, that's what I would say. Yeah. But no other updates on this yet have to keep our eyes peeled. Can I come back if you get an update? Yeah, keep you posted. Is it with that? That wasn't a yes. That wasn't a full yes. Yes, you can come back on another episode. Yeah, yeah. If this, not if you open invitation. You're doing a good job. Yeah. Okay. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. We'll put you in the the regular rotation. That'd be cool. Appreciate that. Yeah. I think from the best selling author of it ends with us and regretting you comes reminders of him. That night I made a mistake. No, no one's letting me see my daughter go right now. A story of love, loss and hope. You've taken the worst moment of my life and made it into who I am. Based on calling Hoover's highest rated book. Do you hate me? I've got from a union you to one of the whole world for you. Reminders of him in cinema's March 13 book tickets now. I got another one for you. Oh, wow. There's more. There's always more. I mean, do you see many tabs? I've open like when I said I have tabs. I have tabs. We could sit here actually until Christmas. This is insane. I know. That's why you got that big laptop there. Yeah. See you and we'll get all those. Take that in the backpack with you when you go home to Minnesota. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's why you go to that massage place all the time. Yeah, my backers. Yeah. Got 20 pound computer on you. I do. I you know, this is actually the lighter one. But it took a tumble the other day. I'm feeling really sad. It fell out of my car straight on the concrete. Yeah. Well, you have a case. Yeah, I was just going to say, but I knew you already knew your mistake. I know. I felt it. Okay. I'm going to give you a choice on this next one. Okay. First option. My husband of four years doesn't take our role playing serious when we have sex. He purposefully takes his characters way over the top. Or option two. My husband's owl obsession is ruining our marriage. Why are you feeling? Or oh, hold on. I'll even give you a secret third option. My fiance is a homicide detective and I'm starting to feel like he treats me more like a suspect than a partner. Oh, good. I like birding. I like birding, but that okay, I kind of want to hear what what he does with the character's sex and bad. So let's go with that one. The role playing. But it's such a hard thing. The homicide one. They'll still get it. You don't have to worry about them. They'll still get it. Yeah, I'll just have to listen in. All right. Let's do the the I want to hear what this guy does. Okay. How over the top he takes it. My 31 female husband, 33 male of four years doesn't take our role playing serious when we have sex. He purposefully takes his characters way over the top. So we've been with each other for six years. Our sex life is just as good as when it started. I just wanted to try out some kinkier stuff. So I suggested role playing. Kevin, my husband, was somewhat open to the idea, but also thought it was a bit ridiculous. This is something I've always wanted to try sort of like a fetish. So we got a few costumes, a cop outfit, and a spy trench coat for him and a nurse and cheerleader outfit for me. All of our role playing revolves around one person being a character and the other one interacting with them. But he takes his roles as a joke. He goes intentionally extreme with the roles. I know he thinks it's a bit ridiculous and I know he has more fun when he does this, but I want a real role play. Yeah. For example, when he's dressed up as a cop, he was supposed to do a stop and frisk, arrest me, etc. But in a sexy way. But instead, he kicks open the door, screams, hands up, this is a raid. And basically tackles me to the bed. He handcuffs me, literally reads me my Miranda rights, leaves me there and starts rummaging through the drawers, throwing stuff everywhere, pulls out a little baggy of weed and goes ape shit like a cop might. I play along, try to get him to let me go if I can do sexual favors for him. Then we have some rough sex with handcuffs and everything. The actual sex was good, but he kept speaking into his fake radio calling for backup. When I was on top of him, he would shout, Officer down, Officer down. With the spy outfit, he would come in and check me for wires and do the whole pink panther thing where he would say it is lovely whether we are having while sneaking into the drapes and then beating the drapes up. I was envisioning a more James Bond-esque seduction. I like the sex. It's good, but I want a more porn-like experience. And it was kind of funny, but not what I thought. And I know that he thinks role play is ridiculous and that he is trying to have fun with it, but I feel like he doesn't know what I want. And I don't hate him for it. He's a big fucking goofball in and out of our roles, but I want to have my experience. How can I tell him this? That's great. I think this actually has a lot of potential. The guy seems like a great comedic actor. I think he takes these roles very seriously. He's very into the role play. It doesn't even seem like he's making fun of it. Well, yeah. And yeah, I don't know. He's like applying for the job. Now, true, Facts, but also when he's calling for backup when he's saying Officer down. Can you imagine? Oh my gosh. Think about all the great comedic actors out there. Some of them go into dramas, right? Like Steven Correll. Yeah. You know, he's obviously got the office. Steve Correll. He's got the office. And then what's that one that he did? Love actually. No, Ryan Gosling. Oh, yeah. Ryan Gosling too. Not love actually. Oh my god. No, that's someone. But I was thinking with Steve Correll, what's the one where he's or Robin Williams take him for? Yeah. Who are you thinking of? I was thinking of Steve Correll, but it's crazy stupid love. It's him. Ryan Gosling. Julianne Moore. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a comedy, right? Crazy stupid love. It's like really sad movie. Is that where he is? He looks like he's like a kind of a nerdy old guy but not for your old version? Yeah. That's the movie I'm thinking about. I didn't know the name. But like the point is like great comedic actors have the potential to be like great regular actors. But you need a little training. And the only way by training is to just get the reps in. So I think as a good thing what they could do is watch an episode of the office. Let's say this is funny, but I need this. But yeah, just to fully live in the character, not try to get laughs. He's doing an improv thing. Like he's doing improv comedy where he's trying to like get the laugh. And she just wants him to and but I think that there's potential and there's something to work with. Yeah. How would you recommend that he like commits to the bit better without like making fun of it? I think he's basically just got to I like looking through, looking for the weed. I think that's good. That's great. But I think you just where you you're kind of like joking. You're joking the joke. It's a hat on a hat kind of. But that's assuming it's all committed. Like there can be a few jokes, mate. But he's just got to really live that character. Okay. And be that person. And fully. And I think she just needs to explain that. And I think using those movies as an example would help. But I mean, this guy's not going to get it at first. Let's be honest. No, I mean, he see I go back and forth because it does really seem like he is trying like reading her her Miranda rights. Like you have the right to remain that honestly that could be really hot. But top comment. Oh man, this is gold. Oh, P. This is probably one of the best problems you could have on this subreddit. I'm picturing him opening this extra everyone has and flinging dildos and various other toys around your husband sounds hilarious. He sounds like a good guy. And he's clearly open to suggestions. I haven't you just tried talking him about it. Maybe he can be silly every other time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's exactly it. He's a fun time. You know, and also I bet you know, the other thing is like with the costumes, right? Don't just order those off like off the internet. Yeah. Like really go to an actual costume shop and get the actual thing. You think that'll help set the mind a little more because if he's coming in in one of those like Halloween cop costumes, don't feel real. No, it feels fake. Let's get him a real badge. You know, okay. Yeah. You can find real old badges on eBay. Sure can. Real easy. Yeah. Yeah. Go do a thrift shop together like one of those vintage shops. Not the stupid expensive ones. But like the the actual antique shops and start, you know, that'll that'll help the four players really build in the character, you know. Yeah. I think that'd be good. There are just don't make it a real gun. No. No. Someone was thinking that I just saved you first. Yeah. I like that. I appreciate you looking out for everybody. Yeah. We're happy. Some people are sharing their own experiences in the comments. Nice. Someone goes, this reminds me of when my girlfriend finally agreed to indulge my ultimate roleplay fantasy, Lonely Fisherman, trapped mermaid. She spent 45 minutes under a net that I ordered from Amazon singing catchy songs about life under the sea, her dreams of true love, and her wish to have real legs. I finally gave up and rode my boat, cardboard box, back to the living room to watch TV. I finally had my revenge the next week during our mummy sexy archaeologist session. But I understand feeling put out over your situation. Believe me. That's great. There's a lot of like funny freaks out there. A lot. A lot. And this is from 2016. It's a very vintage reddit post. That's great. That's great. It's old before AI, before AI, giving very real people just had to use their imaginations. Yeah. That's what it's really like. And also like just sort of build it up a little bit more. You know, get the set dressing right. Everything. You know, like lean into the realism of it. I mean, depending on where you live, you could like rent out a jail cell if you really wanted to do it right. Like there's like you can rent out a jail cell. Well, there's like sets. I'm thinking LA like here in LA, you can rent out like a vintage diner for like a photo shoot. You can rent out like a jail cell. Like they're they're set. But you know, like you're talking about set dressings like go, go really immerse yourself in that scene. Yeah. Set it right. You know, set the scene. Right. Yeah. No, that's perfect. You can do that. Or you know, in Wisconsin, just go get publicly intoxicated and get in a real jail cell and see what happens. Actually, don't do that. That's the idea. Have you been a jail? Yes. I've been a jail. Yeah. Oh, how was it? Did you get your one phone call? Is it? Is it as they say? No, I got a P. M. Burton, Joey sandwich. No. I was in Minneapolis. You're a St. Paul home state. What did you do? I was work. I was a journalist. I got arrested covering the protests at the RNC in 2008. Wow. I think college. Yeah. They arrested a bunch of journalists because people were making fake credentials and they issued a disperse order. You know. Okay. Yeah. And then I was with this actual report from the Boston Globe. You know, like a I was there for like six months at MTV. And then I was like, so what do we do now? Because I looked around and there was like a whole line of police officers walking toward us. And it's like, now we get arrested. So I was like, damn, I'm going to be, I don't have any money to pay for this. So oh my gosh. But yeah, I met a taxi driver from Denky Town, gave him half my PB and J and he gave he gave me a ride to Denky Town after. Okay. Now for those of you not from the Midwest, Denky Town is not an innuendo. I didn't do anything weird with the taxi driver. But we had breakfast at about 6 a.m. And God, what's that diner that was right there in Denky Town? Is it? You go to the diner? Is a diner open at like super early? Because that might be it. I wonder about what that is. It was the best diner. It was like where you would go. Al's breakfast. Might have been Al's. Might have been Al's. It was Al's. There was Tony's. But Al's was like, super good. I used to live in Denky Town. Did you? Yeah. Oh, that's cool. Do you go to U of M? Sure, Den. No, I went to Wisconsin. I googled that. I wasn't happy about it when I saw it. Yeah. Yeah. Bucky, the Badger fan. Bucky, don't take Bucky though now. To Ohio State. It's even worse. Yeah, it is even worse. At least we got that going. Sorry about all the times we won that axe. I'm not really the biggest college football fan. So that's okay. That's fine. We had a rough year. Yeah. That was more of a hockey fan. All right. Idol money lies in your current account picking crumbs out of its belly button wondering, should I eat them? But when you start investing with monso, your money's always busy. It turns on regular investments. Invests your spare change and tops up your stocks and shares iso. It even helps you make sense. That risk and return. Monso, the bank that gets your money moving. You could get back less than you invest. Monso current account required UK residents 18 plus decent fees apply. I got one last one for you here. Yes. Yes. Do you want another choice or do you want me to? I'll let you do it. Okay. My choice is I deliberate too much. No, you did. No, that was actually a very knee jerk reaction. Okay. You were quick with it. This next one is coming. I think it's the reassurance. Yeah. No, I think you're sorry. You're crushed. But it was just Midwest constantly apologizing to each other. Just, oops, sorry. Pologizing reassuring. Yeah. It's for your good zip-zang here. Nice to set up a set I've had in five years of the show. Nice. Okay. This last one coming from AITH. Am I the asshole? Seven days old. Am I the asshole for telling a friend's boyfriend that he can't have a traditional wife because he's not a traditional man? Wow. I 27 female was hanging out with some friends with their significant others last week to make a long story short. My friend's boyfriend kept talking about how women no longer want to be traditional wives. And that's why many of them are single. I responded. I already know this dude. I already know exactly who this dude is. I responded that in 2025, women don't feel like they need a man in order to provide the lives that they want for themselves. He kept going about what women used to do and how they were all about taking care of their husband and household without complaining. I let it go on for a while, but I got tired of hearing his rant and told him that he can't have a traditional wife when my friend goes 50-50 on all the bills and works more hours than he does. I continued with he isn't a traditional husband and can't provide for his household like he's supposed to so that my friend can stay home and do those traditional duties. I may have become the asshole when I told him that it sounds like he wants another mommy and not a wife. It became silent and he told me that my way of thinking just proved his point. Oh nice dude. Nice. The conversation pivoted elsewhere and I thought that that was it, but I got a message from my friend saying that her boyfriend was upset at me for what I said and that I embarrassed him. He wants me to apologize, but I don't think that I should have to. Being as though I was just responding to his rant about traditional women. My friend said she doesn't think I'm wrong but doesn't think I'm right either. I should have just let him talk because he had a few drinks. Am I the asshole? No. I think that's hilarious though. He's like, oh yeah, you wanted to stay home and just have babies and all that. Okay, well let me feel your hands. There can be a little too soft for that, buddy. That's a good one. Just tell me a soft hands. Yeah, I don't know. Especially if he's going Dutch on it all, he needs that income. Yeah, that's just a hilarious response. That's a great way of kind of mirroring it too. Saying, okay, let's take what you want. Let's go there. Let's look at all aspects of this. That's a really good point because you could have gone that route, the mere route in this situation. How much do you make a year? Yeah. So, you know, cost of living these days, you only make, I don't know, 96k, do you think that's enough for my friend to quit her job and for you to support you guys? Yeah. What about if you have a kid? And even take it to the next level. Oh my gosh, I think she would love to just not work. And to just stay at home. Stay home. God, but you might take a little bit more money, but you're a man, you can provide that. Yeah. Yeah. How much do you make a year? Yeah. I love this. You want? That's great. I'm going to talk to her. I'm going to get her onboard with this, but do you think you be able to make like three, four hundred thousand dollars? Yeah. Do you think that'd be okay? Is there a promotion in the works? Yeah. Anything? Because right now you're lacking in that department. Yeah. Just a little bit. Yeah. The 401k is not looking too good. Yeah. I don't know why that's the preferred thing. The 401k? Oh no, no, no. Just the traditional stuff. Then just go find someone who wants that. I know. There's people out there that really do. They love it. God bless them. Then go find them. Yeah. But you can't. It never works if you're trying to change someone into, especially if you just pulled the thing you want off some stupid ass podcast. Yeah. Don't listen to anything. We say. Yeah. No. I didn't mean this podcast. I didn't mean this podcast. I'm just saying like, like the podcast. The insult energy. Yeah. Or even there's like the whole traditional thing, or like their home something, or home. The tradwife. That's making a comeback right now. Yeah. But I mean, the point, like there's those people out there, just go find them. Everything's got to niche these days. But yeah, you're never going to pull someone from there. What they authentically want to do. It's just never going to work. No, maybe she loves her job. But even if she doesn't love her job and is cool with that, like, which kind of sounds like she isn't as opposed, you're not making enough if you're splitting things 50-50 right now. Like, you got to buck up. Yeah. Get a few more castes on your hand. I like that. That's soft hands. That was good. Oh, yeah. It's hilarious. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's good. It's funny. And if you have callous hands, other butter is great. You ever see that other butter you get? Well, I've heard about bag balm. That's a big thing in the Midwest. You get bag balm. It's meant for cows, others. Yeah. That's basically it. Then they've got another thing that's like this other butter stuff. Same church different. Okay. I like that. I've started getting working hands. It's in like a little green tin. That, I don't know what isn't it. But if you're cracked or a little dry, put that on one night. You're back to good. Yeah. I got something in my car because this finger too for whatever reason, like it, my hands get well. In the Midwest, we get chapped hands. Yeah. You know, everything hands, lip, douse. Yeah. Whole deal. It's not the worst in a chapped ass. Terrible. Yeah. Especially when someone chaps it for you. Right. Yeah. This guy. Top comment on this one. Not the asshole. The audacity of going on and on about tradwives and splitting things 50, 50 with his girlfriend. A low-well. It's so weird that these guys somehow always forget that women have jobs. I've never met an unemployed adult woman. Society has moved on, dude. There's no way to hack it on a single income anymore, which is why tradwives are just ticktocks. What are they? Chad? I'm out of the world. Tradwives. Trad. Trad. Oh, like traditional. Yeah. That's a dumbest name I've tried is. I think that's so funny. Trad. Yeah. T-A-R-D. I shouldn't yuck someone's young. Have you seen, um, there's like some really big tradwife influencers these days, like they're into evidence. Like they make their bubble gum from scratch. Like they're so crazy. That's cool. So much work. I started making sourdough recently. Oh, my sister's into that. Bridget? Yeah. Same. I have eight sisters, but that's just the one that's come up twice. Oh my god. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got a lot of kids. Do you drop on a farm? No. No, I did not. We got cats like. Okay. Parents just, yeah. They love board games. Yeah. Really like each other. Yeah. How long have they been married? Um, since 1984. Okay. 30, coming up on 32 years. 32 next year. 32 next year. Yeah. 31, 32. What do you think their secret is? Sex. No, okay. Um, children. I think they, they, my mom, my mom's from a family of 11, and she, she really liked being big family. Big families. Yeah. I mean, and that's not it. Yeah. That's really cool. Yeah. But yeah, we, it's not, as we're talking about trad families or whatever, some might consider that, but that's not really how it wasn't my family there. Everyone has a job. You go out the cows, Bridget's on bread. Yeah. No. No. We, we grew up. But that was like, my mom always wanted that and she enjoyed it and had fun with it, you know. But, but there was never like some, some like underlying political belief or whatever with it. It's more Catholic belief actually. Right. Okay. They enjoyed it. I like that. Eight is, did you guys have a bus? We had a secondhand Presbyterian people mover. Cool. So you got like a little mini bus? Yeah. I was double buckling a lot. You ever double buckle? No. Hmm. It's a best. It's a worst day, right? What? Were you put two people in one seatbelt? Yeah. That doesn't sound very crash test rated. Yeah. We all lived. That's positive. And we had enough kids into Spain. Some of us wouldn't. So a lot of bonus kids. We do have an update on this one. Oh, sick. Yeah. I called my friend to try and understand why her boyfriend was embarrassed and why she was trying to be Switzerland in the situation. She explained that I'm her friend. And although she doesn't disagree with what I said, she feels like she needs to have her man's back as well. I told her that she doesn't have my back by asking me to apologize to him and not standing up for me or at the very least telling him what he was saying was idiotic. We talked for about an hour and I actually feel like it didn't get anywhere. I told her that I would not apologize and that he can't come around me anymore. And she was very upset with that statement. What? I feel like I lost a close friend and that hurts a lot, but I will not be disrespected. Sorry, this isn't some juicy stuff, but I just wanted to update everyone on how the situation ended. Dude has soft hands. He's got a soft soul. I mean, if you want your thing and you're proud of your thing, then just say it and take what comes with it, except the consequences. Turn it in my dad now, you know? I mean, stay out of the kitchen if you can't handle the heat. Where did you think that conversation was going to go? Yeah. Just two plus two equals four usually. Yeah. He sounds like a dude who's parents never told him too bad. I really do like your energy you're giving. Like too bad, so sad, move on, grow up. You're like you're really kind of just like pick me up by my bootstraps and let's keep going. Yeah. You get that a lot? From my parents. My parents, yeah, my parents. You're tough cookie. Well, but I mean, if you think about it, I'm second all the same family at 12. Nobody cares about you. It's the whole, it's the idea of the whole, you know, the whole family, you know, more the unit, not one part. Yeah. Yeah. You're not important. And if you think you are, you're not. And look at the context of the world. You're not special. You're not important. You do what you can to make the world a better place or get out of it, you know? And by get out of it, I don't mean like, I mean, just get out of the situation that you're bitching about. Can I say bitch in here? You can swear as much as you want. Yeah. I mean, that's just it. It's just nobody wants to hear what you have to say unless you're helping. It's kind of especially these days. Yeah. Yeah. Well, especially this, this whole like fake, masculine or whatever it is, the toxic masculinity. I don't even know what that is, but I just mean like the sort of fake, like if you're going to pretend like you want that traditional, like I just watch Yellowstone and I think I know how to like ride a horse. If you got that in you, then just suck it up. Quit pretending like you're a victim of something. You're not. Nobody cares. That's just my thought process. So to say, I can't be around her, you know that he has really soft hands and not from moisturizing. Mm-hmm. Anyways, but that's my that's my soapbox. That's it. Yeah. And now I'll step off it. That's my hot take. Yeah, you got me going there. I did. I really riled you up at the end. Took a while. Took a while, but the crock pot got hot. You know, I love a crock pot. Don't you? It's just so nice. You said it and forget it. Yeah, but don't fully forget it. There's people, they get a little crazy. They'll like put their crock pot on low and they'll go to work for eight hours and come home and dinner's ready. But like, aren't you worried about a fire? Not with the crock pot. Those things don't start on fire. This is the PSA portion of the show. That was a joke. They absolutely do set on fire. No, you're really rolling the dice every now and again with that, but I got a crockery. Okay. West Bend crockery. I don't know what that is. It's type of crock pot. Okay. From 94, I think. Judging by the shade of blue. Very nice. Oh, you're in 94. Yeah. 94 model. There you go. I'm an 87 model. A little bit older. I think my brother was born in 86. You think? Yeah, well, we've got an eight year difference. So I just do the math that way. You don't know the year off to him. Actually, you went, what am I talking about? I don't even know I old half my sibling. Thank you. Yeah. Name all of their birthdays. No. I don't think I can most of them. Oh, shit. What's today? The 15th. It's Nora's birthday today. You're good. I think you're good. Or it's tomorrow. No, it's today. I know you better check your calendar. Damn. Now the fact that there's deliberation on this podcast. Bridget's going to clip it and show it to Nora. I know you'll get another fan though. Hey, Nora. Yeah. All right. I hope you get some fans from this because I'm certainly a fan. Oh, thank you. Your standup is amazing. I will be sure to put the link for it in the description of this episode. But where can everyone find you? How can they support you? Can they listen to your podcast? Where's it at? Yeah. Appreciate that podcast. Well, neighborly, the special neighborly is on my YouTube channel, Charlie Barons. You recorded it in Wisconsin, right? Appleton, Wisconsin. Yeah. That's some good energy from the room. I can feel it. Yeah. You felt very home. Yeah. And your grandma was there. My grandma was there. I love the denture story. Yes. Thank you. That was good. Thank you. Yeah. That's we're going to that's our insider conversation. You guys will know what we're talking about. You'll get there soon. You'll get there soon. You'll get there soon. Yeah. But it's neighborly. It's on YouTube. Got the lost and found tourists, Charlie Barons.com and then bellied up with my buddy Miles that you bet you guy. Yeah. Yeah. Wait. You guys have like a clothing brand and fleet farm, don't you? Well, we did. We did. I feel like I went there and I got one of those shirts and then I just connected it when I was like, who's this guy? He's come, I'm going to get him on the pod and then I was like, wait, I have one of his shirts that I don't even remember. But I was like, you had like this whole rack. It was like a good little hat stand. I feel like the hat said like you betcha. Well, those were his hats. So you got his stuff. No, but that's fine. I don't remember. But I went and shop and I have fleet farm. I'm not banned from there anymore. So I can go back and it was a great experience. Nice. How'd you get banned from there again? It's a story for another day. What podcast are I have to listen to to hear the story? I just like, I was a little shoplifter. I had a problem. Yeah. Yeah. That's your kink right there. The shoplifter. Didn't do it after. Huh? I didn't do it after. I got caught. Well, you need to get caught. See, that's what you need in life. You need to get caught. Just like that last dude, he got caught in his bullshit. And now now we'll learn. Maybe you'll learn. That's a really good theme for me. Caught in the bullshit. Caught up in it. You caught me learn. Good for you. Yeah. I'm caught that you're I learned. You paid for that shirt then. Yeah. Yeah, he did. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I just got this recently. All right. Jackson Hole. Sick. That's cool. Some real tree on there. Yeah. It does say real tree. Yeah. Sure. Sure does. Yeah. I know my camel. Yeah. Anyways. Now we're in a long goodbye. Oh my god. Gonna offer you up. The minisauk. Good bye. Never ends. I do send people home with stuff. Cool. Yeah. Sick. Okay. Now, don't call pulling your ducks off your wall for me. All right. It's going home with you. No, it's not. I can't fit in my suitcase. I'm not taking your dad's wood duck. Hey, when you even notice, he's going to notice. No. He's going to know. No. Yeah. Until next time guys. Bye. What'd you say? Oh, I said watch for deer. Watch for deer. Yeah. Sorry. That's is that your thing? It's kind of lame that I put it on your podcast, but no, do you say it more like forcefully? Yeah. You were kind of on committee with that. I was super non-committal. Yeah, but I thought we were doing it. It wasn't right. Yeah. Winters coming. Yeah. Try to save on ice. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. Watch out for the black ice. You know, that'll get you. It'll get you real quick. And then you'll go into the cheese grater. Sure. Well, bad news. Bad day. Mm-hmm. All right. See you guys.