This episode of the Savage Lovecast is brought to you by Load Boost by VB Health. Load Boost is a supplement designed to improve the taste, the volume, and the overall health of your semen. If you're already putting in the work, why not make your performance unforgettable? Made in the USA, NSF certified and produced in an FDA registered facility, thousands of guys across 50 states and 45 countries swear by Load Boost. If you want bigger finishes and better reviews from your audiences, if you want better taste, better mouthfeel, go to loadboost.com today and use code SAVAGE for 10% off, or click the link in this week's episode description. That's loadboost.com and use offer code SAVAGE. Welcome to After Action Report where I talk with a listener of mine about a new sexual experience they've had and everybody gets to listen in. This one is a doozy exploring hardcore kink and consensual non-consent. Strap in, let's ride. Joining me for this after action report, Tom, Tom, welcome to the show. Thanks for having me. You have a crazy story to share, but before we get to it, before we get to the down to what you got up to, I want to know just a little bit about you. Who is Tom? Tom is a 45 year old male living in Canada. I'm originally from the Netherlands. Can you give us one wholesome detail because your story is wild and I want a little bit of contrast because we contain multitudes. I do crazy sex stuff, but then I get up early and bake an apple cake for my family. I have twin boys and a wonderful ex-wife. Just to give you an idea of how awesome she is, on my way to Holland where the story took place, flying there, I got a message from both her as well as from my current dating girlfriend to wish me an awesome time and have the most sexy time at this kink event I was headed to. That's how awesome my ex-wife and my girlfriend are. Oh, okay, great. So what is it that you did that you wanted to talk about? I got asked if I could help facilitate a CNC kidnapping scene. CNC, consensual non-consent kidnapping scene. So I'm going to infer that there's somebody out there who always wanted to be kidnapped and they empowered someone to set it in motion for them. Correct, yes. This was a couple that I was going to be sharing a cabin with at this kink event in Holland. I actually hadn't met them before, but I was going there with a Dutch lover and they were her friends. The guy of the couple reached out to me a couple of months before the event. It's like, hey, I know we haven't met yet, but my girlfriend really wants to do a CNC kidnapping. Would you be interested in helping me with that? Now, I had in the past considered with a different girlfriend, considered organizing a CNC kidnapping. The one thing we could never figure out was where can we do this without somebody walking their dog, seeing a woman get dragged into a van and them calling 911. And so we never could really make that happen. I guess you could go to some far remote logging road or something, but it kind of removed the spontaneity of it. So when he asked, I was like, this event is at a bungalow park. They rent out the whole thing. So if a bunch of people see that happen, there'll be other kinksters. They'll probably shrug their shoulders and go, good for her. So that got me excited. On the other hand, I hadn't met these two people yet. So that got me a little reserved. So I was like, well, why don't we meet at the event, see how we jive, and if we have chemistry and I feel good about it, then yeah, let's make that happen. Totally. So she didn't know that he had reached out to you about participating in this? No, she didn't. No, this was going to happen. Okay. So it seems to me that somebody who's told their partner that they might be, that they're interested in that might be, that they really want to be kidnapped sometime in a CNC scene. If you drove that person out on a remote logging road, they might figure out it's about to happen. Exactly. Right? You want to grab them off the street. You want to make them think you're taking them to dinner. You want that spontaneous, yes, exactly. You're leaving a party and they're like snatched. Yes. But wouldn't arranging to have it happen at a kink event, for the kink to happen when you're already at the kink event? Isn't that a little bit of a tell too? Were they expecting it as a possibility? I don't know if she was expecting it as a possibility there specifically. I mean, obviously, as we'll get to, like, as soon as it started happening, she wasn't wondering, oh, who might these people be? It was pretty obvious, obviously. But at the end of the day, you're fulfilling a fantasy and there's going to be some compromises, I guess. So it's like you say, it's grown us playing cops and robbers and that became really apparent to this whole thing. So if I was approached by somebody and they asked me if I would participate in a CNC kidnapping scene, because I'm a catastrophist with a bad case of worst case scenario disorder, I'd be worried that maybe I've been enlisted in a real kidnapping under the guise of this is a CNC kidnapping scene. How do you do your screw diligence there? How do you make sure if you can't talk to the victim, the person who's about to be kidnapped, then it'll tip them off. How do you make sure that this is consensual non-consent, that they are interested in being kidnapped? Yeah. So for starters, these two people were close friends to my Dutch lover. I trusted her opinion of them and she spoke very highly of them. And more importantly, when he first sent in a message, I specifically wrote to him, I was like, hey, let's meet at the event, we're going to share a cabin together. We're going to spend the whole night together. Who knows what might be happening between the four of us in that cabin all night long in the living room, if you will. That's probably going to be a good opportunity to get to know each other. And then let's play by ear the next day. So I needed to rent a car once I got to Holland to get all our gear to the event. So I did already rent a white van, a non-descript white van with a sliding door. It was perfect for a two-day thing. Maybe a little obtrusive there, but yeah, it was perfect. She didn't like, the woman didn't know that either, but I was still totally ready to bail. Like if I didn't get along with these people or I was like, does she really want it? Does she not want it? I don't really know. Then I was ready to go. Yeah, no, I just, it's not a good, it's just not working for me. But what happened on Friday night was like, we spent a whole night together. First of all, these two were so cute together. They'd been together for two and a half years. They were so in love. But then also the way they were having sex, I guess, evolved is the word. They were clearly very good at it, but they were great communicators. The four of us had sex. I'd quickly, it didn't take long for us to become a group saying, super organic. Like the ebb and flow of participation was really natural. Communication was strong. They were super smart. So all signs pointed to like, okay, these people like know what they're doing. Okay. So set the scene for me. You're going to kidnap this woman who you've already had sex with. You're at the cabin, you're staying at. Do you just kidnap her and drive her in circles and then bring her back to the cabin where you've already fucked? Or did you take her to a different location where then she was held hostage until dot, dot, dot? How did it, what was the plan? Yeah. So at the event there was volunteer shifts for people to walk around the property, like two people every hour to make sure there was no like normies accidentally entering the event and seeing things they shouldn't be seeing. So my lover and the woman, they assigned up for a shift. It was like the 3pm shift I think. So they were going to walk around and that was kind of our opportunity because they were going to be somewhere on this, on this bungalow park. So the guy then transformed the living room into what I can only describe as what it would look like if it was a hostage situation. It was like a sheet hanging from the wall and like a really bright light. Apparently he had written this letter that she had to read out loud in front of a camera. He was going to film the whole thing. So he transformed the living room and then we dressed in fully dark clothes. He had these Friday the 13th masks in black to wear as disguises. And then we jumped in the car and we kind of drove around and we kind of knew what path they were going to follow. So then we parked the van on the side of the road, climbed out and waited behind the van until we saw the two women approach. One of the truisms about bondage is that when you read bondage porn, you'll read things like, oh, suddenly I was in handcuffs or I was wrestled into bondage. And the reality of bondage is you have to cooperate to get into bondage. Unless there's somebody pointing a gun at you, which is not a scene that would be interested in, or most people would be interested in. So you jump out to kidnap this woman. Does she resist or does she cooperate? Because I mean, it's sort of a paradox here. To be kidnapped is to be taken against your will, but she wants to be kidnapped. She wants to be taken. So I would say she was about 100 feet away from the car still when two of us jumped out from the car and ran towards her. And I kind of left the guy mostly in control because I wanted to sort of calibrate how violent this is going to be. As soon as she saw us, she turned around and started running. He tackles her to the ground and then I get closer and he pushes her into the grass, kind of muddy grass that just rained the night before, which is just perfect because they're closer, like covered in grass streaks. I'm peening her legs down, but this is such a beautiful moment because it's quite violent, more violent than I had expected. But from her face kind of muffled into the ground here. And the juxtaposition between what we're doing is really fucked up. And her going, he was super wholesome. Like I had not expected wholesomeness to come out of this situation. So he puts zip ties around her. I keep hitting her legs down and then we both pick her up and we throw her in the van again. Like it was not gentle. And your girlfriend at this moment just took off running the other direction. She was watching the whole thing Like just standing there loving it so good enough. She's like this is fantastic I love the he he he like it sounds like violence. It also sounds like I don't know Tackle or tag almost it's I like literally in that moment cops and Roberts from from your podcast came immediately popped to mind and what I also found interesting like I'm not a role-playing guy Like I can enjoy some kinky stuff But I'm I'm not a role-playing guy and I would have thought that hearing he would would have ruined it entirely But it didn't it was wonderful. It was wonderful. It was playful. It was wholesome. It was super fucked up and Yet it was great. So yeah, there was a little eye opener for me So you carry it of the van and then so we threw in the back of the van and then he jumped in the van with her We had picked up some ropes so we could sort of tire to the side of the van Then I jumped in the front He had given me this track of this like super aggressive Berlin speed metal EDM is like just pounding techno and I drove off and I'm like driving around for a while Taking some speed bumps doing a couple U turns going around around about a couple times Until we pull back up in front of our cabin And then I jumped out and slid the door open and we pulled her up Pulled her out of the car walks into the cabin and we threw her on the mattress in the living room And that's when I high-fived him and then I basically left so They fuck he held her for ransom. It wasn't your scene Right, and it wasn't for your lover, but you were a cog in the wheel of this machine Yeah, where did it take them so he gave me a few details We told me about the ransom note that she had to read He kept the mask on the entire time She was also masked and who did I would it I should say at some point He took the hood off because he wanted to insert things interface Quite violently I might say and I happened to notice because so I left but after about 50 minutes I had to pop back in to grab some stuff from the bathroom for for another costume I was doing and I basically caught a few glimpses those two were going to town like holy Like and like that was definitely a moment where I was like if I had not seen those two interact the day before I Would have maybe I do I need to call the police because these two are really going at it. Oh, yeah, it was very aggressive very committed Yeah, it's something that like that like and I've done some fairly not extreme But I've done kinky stuff and bdsm and and dom sub stuff But yeah, the way those two were going to town was phenomenal or scary I just want to interject here that if anyone is out there arranging a CNC kidnapping scene for me right now Pumping German hard techno is a hard limit. That's a no for me in the van I just want some Vicky car or some Frank Sinatra So how did it feel for you? How was it for you? I assumed since you guys were staying with them you and your partner That you talked with them afterwards you got their after action report about how it was for her Oh, so the after was fantastic because so me and my lover we kind of wandered off and started walking to some other cabins In the nearby area and talking to some of our other people that were attending and then I would say about an hour later This couple comes walking out of our cabin. They're holding hands. They're almost skipping Her makeup is running down her face her eyes are bloodshot She looks totally frazzled and then my lover walks through her and she says did you cry and this girl Who's just been completely ravaged? She does not with a huge smile on her face He goes, uh-huh. I did and apparently that have been like an agreed-upon goals of theirs Like he is he was supposed to go until she would cry which again blew my mind, but they pulled that off I'm so happy these two found each other Kepharsis man like it is something that people can seek out through BDSM hardcore sex play So, you know how it was for them. How was it for you being like a part of this experience helping to make what was so desired by her and good for them and good for her and so Tremendously emotionally moving for her you help make that happen. I love that. This is my jam like I yeah This made me so happy to be able to be a part of it. It was a new experience to me. I love doing new things I also loved I guess hosting is the word like but hosting in the broader sense It was like curating or creating experience for people something. I really enjoyed doing this was I'm so happy that I got to be a part of that The other thing is because Four years ago I had a girlfriend that like you were really deep into the details on how we could orchestrate to see and see kidnapping I've always been kind of as a not a bucket list item, but I was like, I don't be fun sometime I think it is a neat fantasy that people might have If I ever would do it again. Yeah, I would do it again if I would help facilitate somebody else I could even see like if I was dating somebody that really was into it and having that happen to herself I would happily orchestrate one it would be less Abusive slash aggressive I guess but the white van is a really nice duck. So I enjoyed that Did your partner look at you and look at what an amazing time she had and say well, well, we have this white van No, that wasn't discussed actually but I she might probably be into that This is a this is a lover who lives in Holland. So we only see each other like two or three times a year tops She would probably also enjoy that actually. Yeah, who knows, okay? I'm sure people are gonna have questions about okay There's some place in Holland where hot kinky straight people go and have like take over a Forest full of bungalows and have crazy kinky experiences Is this a place that people can know about is this a private organization? No, I I've actually been told by the organizers to like this is super under wraps Which is like it's big it was like over a hundred people, but it's invite only I guess I only got to hear about it through this Dutch lover that I met You won't like you can search the name on the online You won't find it because I told my my ex-wife I wasn't going to this event is called such and so when she immediately might go Please she's like that event doesn't exist. I'm like, I know Okay, but it's not a sinister secret it's not like the no, it's just a super I think the scar is really high and it showed like the quality of people was phenomenal Okay, and I guess that said thank you so much Tom for coming on my pleasure and sharing your story One last question. Would you ever want to be the victim of the kidnapping? There's another CNC kidnapping scene or you just want to be the kidnap burr. You're a kidnapping top I think I'm I lean more dominance typically. Yeah Yeah, although I see Lee I guess if I if I had to be kidnapped it would have to be by a bunch of dudes But if there's soon as there's women then I would want to be dominant. That's all other topic All right, Tom. Thank you so much for coming on after action report my pleasure. Thank you Thank you Tom, I'm very glad and very relieved here that it all went so well for you and you're willing captive Turning fear into a cathartic erotic experience. 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