Spittin Chiclets Episode 643: Featuring Gary Lawless

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Me and Ryan have been officially welcomed to the jungle at his basketball sports. I brought it towards the coyotes and I asked him if it was okay if I joined the Spit and Chick Podcast full-time. A little bit. Ryan Whitney's got a pink Whitney out there now. I either go to the fan bag or get that on camera. He's the handle, the song man. It's a full-time member. Marley just got a assist from Chris Bates. Whoa, we're buzzing right now. What is up, folks? Quack, welcome to Episode 643 of the Spit and Chick Podcast presented by Pink Whitney. Pinky's up. You see us doing it. You see people everywhere doing it and if you haven't, you're not looking hard enough because Pink Whitney's everywhere. It was at the Derby. It was in the playoffs. I saw a guy in Anaheim who sent me a picture of him crushing a Pink Whitney shot before the game and then said, now I'm going to crush your team. I guess he's on the team, but I act like I'm on the team. So all's fair and love and war. Showed out Pink Whitney. Showed out New Amsterdam and let's go Pinky's up everywhere. Please send me your pictures of Pinky's up. Even you old guys, you 83-year-old Buffalo Sabres fans that made life so much easier for me when it could have been horrible after the slow chuck. No, man, I'm good. Quack. Quack. I'm good. Come back in a few hours. Thank you. They always come at the worst times. Well, you know you can have a do not disturb. Yeah, yeah. We've talked about this. You've been doing this podcast since 2016. You can put a do not disturb on your door. They got the tags outside. You put the tag on. Just do not knock on this door. But maybe there's more. I'd much rather just quack. Quack. Yeah, guys. So the first round's over. The first round's over. I was going to ask you about the Derby though. Did you guys bet the Derby and the horse? I guess Yans, you guys have ties? Vinny Viola is the owner of the horse or something? Yeah. Yeah. He's a half owner of that horse. Yeah. No ties to me. Just the fact that I played for Vinny. And one time he took me to the Kentucky Derby and I got to walk out the horse. Not a big deal. Pinky's not mad. That actually is underrated. That's crazy. Unreal. I know. I was actually, I was telling people, I was at a Derby party, telling people that they were like, wait a minute. Are you serious? And I was like, yeah. It was unbelievable. Showing them the videos. So maybe I can send the videos to G and he can post some fun times. How did the horse do that you walked out? He's still running unfortunately. Five years ago. I kind of forgot about that. And then we're watching the walkout. I'm like, wow, Yans did this. That was big time. We saw Portnoy do it with his horse in the Oaks the night before. And you could tell he was top of the world. And then you got to do it in the big dog race on Saturday. Now my thing, you get picked for that. Like, like, how did you get picked for that? Yans? Like, it was just a bunch of the Panthers, right? Vinny, Vinny invited a bunch of us to go when he had a Vino Rosso running and, you know, just the guy that Vinny is. He was like, I want you guys come down and walk the horse out. I bought a parachute. You know how you got to get dolled up. I bought a pair of shoes. They were like three grand, which is obnoxious to spend on shoes. But like nice, unbelievable, great shoe. And I'm like, I'm like, man, I think I just ruined my shoes to Mrs. Viola and Vinny Trokcheck's like, yeah, mine are ruined too. Look down. He had Adidas shell toes on. I'm like, God, they're $60. He's like, yeah, I guess you're right. He wore Adidas shell toes to the derby. You should get kicked out for that. Yeah, he's no longer ever in. Oh, no shit. I mean, and then the Panthers moved on from them. That kind of was the straw that broke the camel's back quickly. Quickly, my my I couldn't believe myself. And when you're cold, you're cold. But we went through my wife and I would always pick a horse and then bet on it. And I kind of I'm not I love going to Saratoga. I love watching the derby, but I'm not like a horse guy. I don't know anything. So I was looking at like top six, seven favorites, right? Which is stupid because it's like six, seven. But why wouldn't you just throw some cash on on a, you know, an underdog buddy? Number 19, my number right there most of the time. And then golden tempo, the dream for any golf nuts life is to have just golden tempo ready couples the name and the number like how am I not betting that. And of course, Matthew could chuck bets it. Of course he does. What did he throw on it? What? What did he throw on it? I don't know. But that thing went off like 23 to one ish. Yeah. I think at one point it was higher. And then by the time the race started, I mean, I have to say he put at least five grand on it. That's 110 Gs right there. I have more than the hands of shoes. Yeah. Yeah. The $3,000 shoes resonates well with people. But I do I do love watching the derby man that two minutes is just something else. And that horse, the video of that horse around the last bend in last place or second or last place and the way now my question any of you guys know, does that horse know to run around the other horses? It's that jockey. Apparently it's been doing it in a lot of the races, leading up to it. Like that's how it operates. But it's the jockey, the one like go right, go left. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You're steering the horse. Okay. Maybe they're just a lot around for the curves. But yeah, but no, no, I knew I knew they literally do nothing. No, I knew they get them going like time to really go. But I didn't know if the horse is so smart. It's like, all right, I'm going to pass this guy around. I think that there's I think there's like it's like a team effort. Okay, I would assume that you like just tug a little bit on this side. Like like just a quick tug, little blinker or kind of give them the fish hook. Just a quick time massage for business. And then the horse is all I mean, they're like hockey players. Some guys like to play in the mix, like in the middle in the shit. Some guys like to be on the perimeter on the outside. Some guys like to be on the wall. Like it's every horse is different. And then like you have to get the right jockey to know what that horse likes. Because sometimes they've never ridden them before. Yeah, well, it's an electric. It's an we're actually not going to talk about playoff hockey. We're just going to get into the horse at the party that I'm at this one guy comes in, he's all decked out at glasses on looked like he knew what he was talking about. He's like, he's like, Hey, I forget the name of the horse, but he was 50 to one. He was like, Hey, that horse right there, I'm telling you right now, he's either going to win place or show, put some money on him. So I put some money on him. He's the horse that never made it into the so as I see this going on, there's like 200 people at this party. I'm running around looking for the guy trying to give it to him. He's nowhere to be found. He's left. That's what's going on. You have to you have to leave it. If you give a horse pick and the horse doesn't even get into the gate, you're out of the party. Okay, it was I didn't see the race. So it was just like it was being it was going crazy beforehand. So they're like, buddy, it jumped up on a time legs. The guy felt I mean, the horse could have landed on him and killed him. Like it was crazy. And then they just then they show the jockey gets up. He's furious. And then the people are just walking the horse away. No race for this guy. Good pick, buddy. Good pick. It's like my picks in the first round, which we'll get to now quickly as the first round has ended. Okay, Mark, just the fourth time in Stanley Cup playoffs history that each of the four youngest clubs want a series. Okay, now G didn't include who the four youngest teams were in the outline, but I'm going to guess Anaheim. They're in there. They're in there. Montreal, Anaheim, Philadelphia. Okay, you just added them. Great job. Montreal, Anaheim, Philly, Buffalo. All right. What a first round. We're going to get to game seven. Second, first quack, we got to address the Edmonton Oilers. What a run with what a run. It was a fun four years. It was a fun four years. And then this year comes and just disaster. Was I was I trying to fool myself where Oilers fans definitely hesitant going into the playoffs? You had to be if you had a brain, you'd watch the games, you realize this team as Connor McDavid said, and we'll get into the press conferences after, I think it was yesterday, the day before, an average team with high expectations and that it was a hell of a quote, average team with high expectations and that usually ends in big time disappointment. And that's what it was. Now you could talk about his injury. Turns out he was playing with like a broken ankle. I guess Dickinson had something similar. Leon had a significant lower body injury. If those guys are hurt, you're done. Now that's part of the whole problem with the team. This season, though, man, like, is a step back. Leon said it, the entire organization took a step back. I don't even know if they're healthy if they beat the Ducks. I mean, the Ducks, they're way ahead of schedule, they look phenomenal, shout out Anaheim. I mean, that's just a fun team to watch. They got some superstars there already. I can't believe Jackson Lecombe. But in terms of the Oilers, where do you go from here, guys? And my main takeaways, 12 years or 11 years, Connor McDavid and Leon Dreyseidel. And it's like, Oh my God, like, look at where they're at. Look at where they're at. You go back to that game seven. That was for sure. Bizz, you had a great little rant on TNT that went really viral because it was well said. That was their best team. That was their best chance. They go down three. Oh, they make it to game seven. Who knows if you split one of the first two games. Maybe it's a different story. But to be where they're at with those two guys after 12 years, and I'm looking at Crosby and Malcon and LaTang, and they're three Stanley Cups. And then, you know, it's it's Connor McDavid, Leon Dreyseidel and Evan Bouchard. You can't tell me that on paper it's that different, right? In terms of the numbers that McDavid's put up, LaTang was never really in the mix for a Norris, not as much as Bouchard. No, not as much as Bouchard. And but you look at the surrounding cast, and then you look at the goal tending. Now, the crazy thing with the Pittsburgh run is those two Matt Murray Stanley Cups. Like, that's kind of out of nowhere. And you're hoping for that with Ingram and then Skinner gets him to the finals. But then you look at the other guys and it's when you when you look at how this roster was built and just the mistakes, it's like the depth, right? Like, okay, I'll give us Hyman, I'll give us Nuge, right? And then you give Pod Coleson that guy's been phenomenal for a great player. But it's Cunit, Kessel, Haglin, Bonino, Conor Sheary, Rust, and then the D, like that one cup, Trevor Daley, Ian Cole, like, they just never were built the same way. Another similar team with two generational superstar talents were, and then they didn't get goal tending. And now at this point, people say this year, it wasn't the goal, like the goal tending wasn't good, but it's not just the goal tending, like, at the same time. And I'm like all over the place, look at the goalies, man, look at the goalies they had. And that Jari trade, that was a complete disaster. He was the backup. And if you kept Skinner, who'd been to two cup finals, now you have Ingram and Skinner who are both UFAs and you kind of got a clean slate. You could figure something out. Well, no, you got Jari signed now. He's not even playing for you. It's just, it's sad. It's sad. And when you hear your best players saying the organization has taken a step back and all these different things that you're just thinking they don't have a cup, they're in a worse spot now than they were three years ago. And the fact is that, like, I don't know if this is going to be able to switch for next year. Like how do you retool this team? How do you get a goalie? How do you get rid of nurses contract? There's so many questions and I don't know how it's going to be answered, but quack. Yeah, I like, I said management. Like I didn't, I wasn't sign, signalling out Bowman because like, I feel like it's a collective effort between, I don't know what the backstory is on the haul and move, not protecting Holloway and Broberg. Because if you look at the big picture, that's probably a big percentage of what's wrong, right? Because if you add those two guys and what Broberg, everybody can see what he's doing in St. Louis, unbelievable guy, then all of a sudden you would have Bouchard and then him on a second pairing where you have a puck moving defenseman in which I mean, I think that that's what they want. Those forwards want the puck and they want a guy who can also defend and really be put in all situations. And at the time, if they would have offered him something, it probably would have been less than what they ended up giving Wallman, right? Is that fair? Is that fair to say like you end up paying Wallman $7 million over seven years and you're like, wait a minute, that guy was coming off of an entry level and he wouldn't have taken that. I mean, it was even less to match what St. Louis gave him on that, that, that the offer sheet. The Holloway one is like the most insane head scratcher to me because he made just over two for two years. People are saying, well, we didn't know he was going to turn into what he turned into. Well, that's a fucking management job to evaluate that. Did you watch him that year in the finals? Exactly. Did you watch him play? Like even that right there, it's like, well, it's not like you're taking a risk given this guy $2.2 million. And then like you go the next year and then you give Skinner $4 million and then Arvidson and then Maju Apani comes after that. So there's just like so many things as to like, but once again, I don't know if Holland did that and didn't protect them because he was aware that he wasn't coming back and he was kind of being pigeon tossed. Like, I don't know. You're saying maybe in some crazy world, he's like, I'm not saying in some crazy world. I'm saying that Holland's a pretty, I would say that he's a pretty competent GM. And if anything, he's got the respect from other GMs where, where Army wouldn't have done that to him. Maybe Holland caught wind. He's like, well, oh, I've fucking orchestrated this, this partial build to get us to the Stanley Cup finals and go seven games and I'm not coming back and you're just going to trade, you're going to, you're going to fucking sell me to the farm for the next hot blonde kind of thing. Fuck you. I'm not protecting these two guys. I don't know what happened, bro, but it's a pretty common thing to know that if you have two studs that are coming at a venture level and other teams have massive amounts of cap space, that there could be an offer sheet coming. If you don't fucking know that, then, and, and he didn't know that, then I guess he did deserve to get fired because that's kind of crazy. And or he has enough respect around the league where nobody would have done that to him because if you're listening right now, that's a thing. Like, would you guys agree that, that, that certain GMs don't offer sheet other players and other teams out of, and they don't want it to turn into a gong show. It's like an unwritten rule almost. Yeah. But also he said he would have done it to his mom. Yeah. So, and then by the way, we haven't even mentioned, I need a lie detector on the blues just announcing right as the Oilers die. Yeah. Dylan Hall was assigned to a 7.755 year extension. It was just like, Oh my God, give me a gun. Edmonton was going to offer sheet them back. Yeah. It's just, um, but so ultimately I, I just, I, I feel terrible because I, the reason I compared Colorado and people say, Oh, well, they've been knocked out in the first round. How many years? It's like, I get, I understand that, but they won one and now they're in a position where they have well, uh, Wedgwood has to resign, but ultimately there are two goaltenders that they have right now won the Jennings trophy, which is the best goalie, the gilly tandem in the league. Okay. You have Blackwood locked up at the same amount that you have Jari locked up for. I think he signed for 5 million bucks or maybe just over. I think you have Jari for two more years, right at $5 million, which is even crazier because you're paying them more than you were paying Skinner. Dude, all you have to say, all you have to say, don't forget Jack Campbell, all you had to say there, but they won one. Yeah. They won one and they're the best team in the league right now. Don't give me Colorado lost the first, don't compare the avalanche, the Oilers. I'm sorry. All right. I won't. I'm talking to you. I was playing Devils out. Yeah. No, I'm talking to the people that said that to you. Like, what are we doing? They met one time. It was a sweep. Okay. Like we're not comparing these two teams. We're not comparing the depth. We're not looking at those rosters and say, oh, look at, look at some of these deals like Frederick, he hurt his ankle. He gets the eight year no move clause, 3.8. He doesn't kill penalties. There, he's a bottom six forward that doesn't kill penalties on an eight year deal. He's not even playing in the first round. Like there's just been so many bad and I'm not going to sit here and say everything Stan Bowman did was bad, right? Like, I don't know. Bringing Roslavic in was good move, right? You've seen like things work out. Small moves. The big ones though, they've been disasters. I think the bad outweighs the good and that just simply can't happen with those three, four, five guys you mentioned. The Hyman, that core group you have, management has failed them. As simple as that. We could sit here and just fucking keep hammering, hammering and hammering, but every move and I compare it to the good teams like the Colorado's, they haven't taken many else and if they have, tell me what they are and they're not even near as significant as the ones that we just mentioned that the oil have and here's the thing though is now they have to try to dig out of it even more and as Leon said, we got two years here to do it and I don't even think you have that long if it's this ugly. I think that they have next year with McDonough. They have next year and good for them for saying it because one was the last time you heard two superstars come out and I mean, yeah, obviously they called themselves out and they need to be better but they're putting some blame on the management. They're putting some blame on, you know, the roster of this team. So I commend them for that because like Biz just said, Leon said, listen, we know we have at least one more year, two years hopefully with Connor, they have to win with like this is one of those things where if you do not win with those two guys, it is a complete failure of 12, 12 years. And I never thought like going back four or five years when this all, when they really started cooking, it was like, all right, at some point, they'll probably lose in the first round to an upstart young team exactly like the docs, but it'll be after a cup. It'd be after the Islanders going for five in a row lose to the Oilers, right? Like, and now granted, that was in the finals, but it's like, at some point, a young upstart team is going to get them, but they're going to have a cup before then and they don't. And it's just, it's crazy. And Oilers fans may be mad, but like, if they're not great next year and they don't win and Connor moves on and you don't like or you hate Connor McDavid for that, you got to fucking go touch some grass, buddy. Look what this guy's done. Look at what, look at the player you have. Look at what he's given for a long fucking time. He takes 12 and a half million on a two year extension just to try to leave some money for the team and to try to build a roster that can win a Stanley Cup. If, if he ever does leave and fans don't like him, those fans are morons, morons. And I don't even think they will. I think they'll understand like, all right, we had, we had the best player any of us have ever seen for 13 seasons. And, and I know what was signed before the season went, but like, and on top of that, he just gave you two years at 12.5, which is like a five to $6 million discount. If not more, if, well, 20% the max you can get, I don't think he's ever the type of guy to take that, at least not now. But and, and, and once again, the only reason you even get to the situation that you were in in the finals, he had what 40 something points the year they went to game seven, like both, both him and Leon had to go all world in order to get them there. So you, you, you kind of, you, you expect year over year, the last two that, okay, they would build and add to that depth and add pieces in the right way. They've just, they've taken so many steps back. It's so sad. I feel so bad. What's next, what's, what's next? What can I do this summer to go out and bolster that, that line? I think you have to make a call on any goalie in the league. I'm talking Gustavson and mini call Winnipeg. Do you even have like, I don't, I'm, I'm seriously like at this point, this is it. You got, you got this year, man. And if they lose in the first round or were bad next year, like he's gone. Am I, am I a bad oilist fan for saying that? No, I'm a realist. Now, the last thing hearing Leon mentioned the guys that they had, that was like, it, it sounded like you the whole year. He brought up McLeod and CC and all these different names. It's like, wow, like that shows what this, what like the comradery they had and the, and the, and the, the ability that they thought after game seven, like we're there, we're there. No man, you got back game six. It was not nearly as close of a series, but just to hear your star player, one of the two, just bring up names that aren't there anymore. That should be, it's just crazy. It's crazy. So at Anaheim, quack, quack, quack, incredible performance. I can't wait for this Vegas, Anaheim series. We're going to get into that, into that a little bit, but we got to talk about game seven. We got to talk about maybe the worst performance I've ever seen in a win by a hockey team. Yeah, easily. So they broke the record for the most, the least amount of shots on goal in a playoff win in the salary cap era, nine shots, none in the second period, one in the third, but the Canadians around some goal tending magic, which we've seen before move on, beat the lightning. John Cooper just, I mean, the numbers of the shots that Canada had over the U S and lightning had over the Canadians and losing both of those games, just shocking Tampa's out in the first round again. Crazy thing that happens at home where you dominate, you can't win. What do you got? It's just nuts. Well, yeah, as you've been on the Canadians, I'll get to it. Like just, what did you see? What are you happy with? And, you know, I know you have a buddy who's a scout for them as well. Yeah, I don't think that game seven, you can be happy with much besides Dolbisch. Obviously finding a way to win any game seven is huge. Getting that first goal, that was a crazy sound. It's like 70% of the time. 75. Yeah, you score the first goal you win, which is crazy. They had no reason to win that game, but hey, at the end of the day, they move on. I think, I think if you look at them as a whole, like their defense played great, like I thought Mike Matheson played really well besides the penalty at the end. Guys jumping in, Dobbson coming in in that game seven. I mean, even talking on the group chat, like man, that's a tough position to get put into as a skilled puck moving D-man. Like you haven't played in any games this series, and you're jumping into a game seven against the team like Tampa. So shout out to him for holding it down. But yeah, I think with Montreal, like they got the juju. You see, you see Marty, St. Louis and the locker room after like, you can tell, yeah. How awesome is that? You can just tell, like he's excited to be a part of this group and the group's excited to have him as their coach. And I just love the mojo that's going on there. They're getting, you know, scoring from different players. I thought Slaff after the first game kind of his dropped, I mean, he did get knocked out twice. Shout out for him for even playing. Fucking legend. Yeah. His game needs to get picked up if they want to win this next series. Cole Cauffield and other guys got to find the back of the net play a little bit bigger. And then another guy too, shout out to Brendan Gallagher coming in, just being a spark plug guy didn't, didn't pout when he wasn't playing. So I just love the makeup of this team, man. Like they, they look like they're having fun. They look like they got the mojo. And I think this next series is going to be an absolute barn burner. I think they got to play a lot better biz to be Buffalo. Yeah. Oh, for sure. For sure. I mean, we'll get into that series breakdown. I think it starts with Marty and just the mental preparation going into that one. But he was saying like, he's like, you can't pay for these reps for these young guys. Like this is it, man. You're going into against a former team that's won two Stanley cups with all the legends across the ice. It's like, this is, you know, this is why you play. And also not to make excuses for them. I believe they had travel issues as well. So maybe a reason I don't think they got into really late the day before. And then there was something going on with either weather or travel. So maybe they, that's why they didn't look like they have their jump like in other games. Cause you go back to the game before the zero, zero, uh, going into OT that was one of the most entertaining, no-scoring games I've ever seen. Like it was back. That was a hell. That was incredible. It was unreal. That reminded me of the, uh, Lightning Bruins 2011 game seven conference final where it's zero, but it's one of the best hockey games I've ever seen. That was incredible. Oh yeah. The crowd was into it. The bell center was going crazy. But, uh, I mean, as far as the players that obviously starts with Dolbisch, um, it was pretty cool to talk to him post game and hear how, uh, a Kutcher off was like in his ear, being like, you're nervous, you're nervous. This kid just as even after game seven, he was just like, no, he was just telling me like, you look nervous, but I wasn't nervous. And like, it was pretty sick to see like how much confidence he has. And the way that he handles the puck, like I didn't realize how good he was at handling the puck, which I think calms things down a little bit early for them. And obviously, as you guys have mentioned, being defensive in the NHL relieved a lot of pressure going back and not getting ran through the glass. Um, I, I, and obviously he was kicking and he, and he looked unbelievable. I thought Tampa could have done a better job with their opportunities getting pucks elevated. I felt a lot was hitting them in the pads where, Hey, but credit the D, right? When you're not giving guys a lot of time and space, like they're trying to get it off quick and maybe they couldn't get it up, but, um, just, yeah, just not, not a, not an ideal, uh, uh, game plan in order to try to win, but they fucking get that big goal from Suzuki, which, um, I don't think that that, that between him and Cauffield, they hadn't scored a five on five goal the entire series. So that was obviously a problem. Crazy at the fact that how low producing those two guys were and yet they get past the Tampa Bay Lightning, but you got a credit that, that, that, well, they, it was the fourth line. Now it's being labeled the third line in, in the Kirby dock, Tech CA and, and the Bull Duke, like they were huge, uh, especially after that, that game two blunder, like they came out game three and I thought they really established themselves, which was huge. Um, and then, uh, I mean, fuck, what else, what else can we talk about? Well, we could talk, we could talk about Keith brought up Matheson in the third period. Uh, they already had the lead. I think he had Kutrov all over him. He wheeled the net, made an incredible breakout pass under pressure. And then later in that, in the, at the end of the period, broke up two plays, perfect stick positioning. Remember those plays coming over the blue line. They went right out of the zone. He was awesome. Dobson's back in. I mean, he's got a pin in his thumb or whatever it is. Like that's a pretty good play on the two on one where he slid and pulled it away to. I think that was in the second period. I was surprised to see Arbor Jack, I come out of the lineup. Same here. And he needs to go in against Buffalo with the size of their forwards. He looked good. 100%. I thought he looked awesome. He's not taking, like, I think the knock on him before was he took too many minors. Um, but I don't think I haven't seen him take too many, come this playoffs, maybe one, maybe one or two, but I would assume that he draws back in for the same reason you just mentioned where like Buffalo is a big skilled team. They're going to need some physicality. So, but hey, credit to Dobson. Like you said, you asked for coming in in that situation and, and, and having the jam to play in a, in a game seven when you haven't gotten any reps, especially a, a team against Tampa. Um, yeah. And I mean, as far as any other individuals on, uh, on Montreal, I, I, I just think it's, I think it's awesome at the fact that they didn't really need that top line firing on all cylinders in order to get the job done. Like that's probably the biggest takeaway. Hudson's incredible. He is unbelievable. It's different than Quinn Hughes. I don't think it's that level. It's not that far off, but the time that he has the puck on his stick is, is wild. When he's out on the ice, he's controlling the play. Now, I don't know the exact date this happened, but at some point in the season, in the second half, Montreal, they fired their goal tending coach, Eric Raymond, they brought in Laval's goal tender coach, Marco Marciano and Dolbys has been 17, eight and one since then with a two, four, two and a nine, six, eight. And then, uh, followers, big cat. Okay. They got a big cat, 2.17, nine, 18 for Fowler. Obviously that made a big, you know, a big, big, I don't know, change in the way that those goalies played. Also, shout out Kenny Albert, who mentioned as him and Edzo were walking into the rink. I think there was, I think he said 10 Montreal, Canadians players playing soccer, you know, two touch, getting warmed up, loosened up. And as they kept walking, Alex Newhook is sitting there, concentrating, exercising all on his own. And you see that goal. People kind of, I feel like there's been this, oh, that was just like a shitty, not a shitty goal, like a lucky goal. He waxed it. That was incredible. That puck is flying by him. He's knocking that thing out of midair off, off of Vasilevsky. The only way you could beat him is a shot going way wide. That's tipped by Suzuki, continues to be going way wide and hops in off Moser. And then this one where Newhook, that's an incredible goal, an incredibly skilled play to knock that out of midair. And I just couldn't believe, luckily Montreal had had a shift right before the goal where they had a bunch of chances. I think the Tampa was stuck on the ice. That was the ship. The ship Gergensen's had like three block shots. Oh yeah. They had a, they're like, all right, they got something going for the first time in like 30 minutes on the game clock. And then boom, next shift, they get it. Hudson gets the shot through the rebound off the glass and he knocks it in and Montreal's moving on. So that's a key too. You just mentioned like, like the, the shift before how many they had blocked. Like I thought Tampa did a good job of getting into lanes, but Lane Hudson being the smart player he is, you missed short side. It gives you an opportunity to, to like get a rebound, you know, and, and keep the play below the goal line at least. Well, in that case, it ended up in the back of the net, but great play because like you could see Vasilevsky reaching, right? So typically that blocker and that arm is hugged up against the post where if that was the case, that's just going to hit his body and go, go, like go back to where it came from. But when he extends like that, it opens up a piece like right where like his rib cage is. And like you said, just incredible hand to eye and hey, that's a guy who's got a Stanley cup, right? And, and, and the little experience that, that group does have come playoff time. So pretty remarkable. I thought that once you all did a dog shit job of establishing their forecheck and if they have any chance against Buffalo, they got to be way better at that. Like I felt like their forwards were not in unison with their D like their D get the fuck up the ice. Like if you're, if you have good F three support coming back for you where his blades are facing your D zone, you got to pressure up as that D man. If it gets by you, that fuck F three centermen will swing by, grab it and jam it right back down their throat. So you can't be given good teams like free exits out of the zone and make life easy on them. So that would be my only criticism from game seven that I noticed, but I'm glad you brought up Hudson and New Hook, but Hudson man. Yeah, he's, he's a superstar. He's a, he's a sick puppy, man. He's a sick puppy, not afraid of the moment. And we talked about him before the series started, like as a smaller defenseman, is he going to get, you know, bullied around? Is he going to get pushed off pucks easily? Nope. The guy's just an absolute water bug. Gamer shows up. He doesn't sweat. He's on the ice 25 minutes a night. You can't hit him in Quinn Hughes. They don't get hit. So it's like, go run him, go run him. Good, good luck. Yeah. And how about this one? This is a tweet from down goes brown. The Kraken, the Rangers, the Devils, and the Canucks have all won a series more recently than the Tampa Bay Lightning. And when you look at like every regular season and the roster and Kutcher off and then them losing in the first round, it's just shocking. No, granted, you had the Panthers to deal with. You had their number, then they flipped it. But Sergei Babrovsky has more points in his career in game sevens than Nikita Kutcher off. And I never thought Kutcher off looked like himself. Like there were moments he did. But this game in particular, and then other times in the series, it was just, it wasn't the same dominance that you've seen in these regular seasons. And I don't know. I don't really know what it is. I and I know, I know point was back banged up. He didn't have his game, right? Gensel was a Gensel was a non factor in game seven. He's a guy you're kind of planning on getting a big goal. But I would say some no shows from guys and granted they all shot them by a crazy margin. They had the puck most of the game, but you got you got a score and they weren't able to. And it's just, it's surprising to me to see the lightning once again, go out in the first round after just having a brutal home record year after year. Yeah. What was it? Two and 10 in their last 12 home playoff games? Yep. Yeah. I mean, I'll, I'll be the one to say it. Like, obviously Kutcher didn't look like himself. I think that maybe like good teams that are well prepared against them, like kind of know his tendencies and also know when they get on them, like he 10, I don't want to say shuts it down. I just think his fucking body language is brutal. Like it's, it's brutal. It's very noticeable. And he gets the, he gets the kind of whiny like shoulder shrug, shoulder shrug, go over the bench, fucking just an absolute show. Every time he enters the bench, like open the door for me type thing. It's just kind of, it's kind of brutal. And to me, when you guys like that around, it makes things a little bit uncomfortable. Obviously, no headman was, was a, was a big factor in this one too. Like a big, long rangey D-man who's done what he's done. But yeah, I think, yeah, it's, I still think their window is open. I think they just need a reset here and, and, and in order to get healthy. I think that point was definitely banged up and had probably the worst year of his career. Just as far as like off ice shit that he had to deal with, like never, like, I mean, he didn't get, didn't get to go to the Olympics because of it. I don't know what was wrong with him, but they need a nice long off season to get healthy. And who knows if they get radish back, right? He's going to hit the open market. So it's, it's interesting times. People are trying to give Koop the quote, like, you know, we, we, we, we, we lost on the scoresheet, but we, what was his quote kind of had a Brindlemore one. Yeah. But I didn't see that quote. I don't know. But the guy, I mean, after the gold medal game in this game, I could imagine a crazy quote coming out because he's like, what's your saying asylum? It happened again. Is this it? We play it? Spuzzer went. That's the feeling I had. I've, I've seen this movie before and it happened in Milan in February. And all you can ask for your team, whether it was the Olympic tournament or the best to seven playoff is get better as you go. And I thought we got better as we went. And I thought tonight we played our best game of the series. Yeah. Like sometimes you win the game and not the score. And when it's game seven, there's no, there's no moral victory in that. I didn't mind that one compared to the, no, he means, he means sometimes you completely dominate, like you dominate a game and then you run into a gold tender, dolish, hella buck. And at the end of the game, you're like, what just happened? And that was, that was, that was probably even crazier based on being a seven game series, right? Like you could see a one game gold medal. It's like anything can happen and we witnessed it. That one you consider, we're going to wear him down. We're going to wear him down. And then they finally do it to the, to the biggest degree that you could in game seven and they lose at home. So while the other, the other thing with just an all time series, all time great series, four hours and 39 minutes of the four hours and 45 minutes total time in the series was played with the score tied or someone up by one. It was just the whole series was close. Every play mattered in every game and it was awesome. So Corey Perry not going to the Stanley Cup finals for only the second time in seven seasons since the pandemic. Merle's was in the group chat. Like you got to get him off the line, I think with Gensel and point was he playing with? Yeah, it was the whole game. It was the majority of the game. Yeah. And what were you going to say? I was just going to say about Tampa, like the last time they won the Stanley Cup, like you think of players that they have the Pallott's, the Cullorns, you know, even a guy with Patty Maroon, like who were the guys that they have now in that locker room where if shit's not going the right way, they're being like, hey, boys, let's settle this thing down. Yeah, they have the superstars. You got Kutraw, you got point, you know, Haggles the superstar now, but it's like, who's the core guys that is, you know, making them a team, like getting them to really buy into a system. I just don't think they have what they used to have and they're not nearly as good as they were when they were winning those cups. Stamp Coast, like you lose a guy like Stamp Coast who's obviously filling the net with goals, but he's also bringing you a certain swagger in the locker room that knows how to win, knows how to handle big time situations. So I think roster management there too has been an issue and having, you know, let go guys that maybe that might not be the best on the ice, but when they're in that locker room, it means something to that team and that's why they won then. So is it one of those things too, Biz? I know Coops, your buddy and stuff like he might get his first ever Jack Adams this year. Is he going to be on the hot seat to, you know, get fired? I mean, no, I would say no. Me too. I think that'd be crazy. There's not like a ton of great coaches out there, like who are you going to replace him with? I do wonder if you go back in time, would they resign Stamp Coast if they could, you saw this year, dude, he's not, he wasn't done. I think they thought he was done. He had 40 goals this year. Yeah. Like then he was the captain. I can agree with that, Jans. And then, and I get just like, I think it would have been tough to match the Cologne offer. I don't know how close he would have wanted them to get in order to keep them. Maybe not a regular season burner, but as you're seeing with the Anaheim, it's like that's a guy you need when the, when the going gets tough. So yeah, Tampa Bay obituary, I don't think their window is closed. I'm interested to see how they can replenish and figure out how to get back to being as relevant as they were. I think they need 97 down in Tampa. They still find these gems though. I know that Dominic James kid is awesome. He was awesome. All right, we got a special guest, Gary Lawless coming on. But before we get to him, we got to talk body armor. This episode is brought to you by body armor flash IV. The NHL playoffs are here. 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I have to say I don't really live in this in this world like in the good for you the Instagram and probably a lot happier man stuff but I was watching there's some some wing nut Chetty or something. Oh, Chetty beautiful. Yeah. He was chirping you last night and you miss about what I don't know. He was at the lightning game. So he was blacked out for sure. Yeah. And he bumps into Pat Maroon at the buffet and Pat put together a nice plate credit to Pat and then Chetty rolls up on him and he's got his you know he's got his minions recording it all and wears yans and tell that bisonette that I need to be on chicklets like it's he's anyway Chetty Chetty's rubbing elbows with like Justin Bieber and the milk boy. He's a he's a big dog. I know he maybe he's too too big to come on this pod but we are buddies with him and maybe in due time we will have him on for a playoff breakdown. And I was like he's getting the Heisman sounds like he's getting a little bit of a soft Heisman. Well it's tea. No one thing about hockey. He fucking knows as much as I do. We don't need to you're on TNT. I know we don't need to dummies on this podcast though. And who's he going to break down. I think the lightningers team aren't they. Yeah they are. Yeah. Well they're got bounce. So what do we need Chetty for. But he's a mini he's a mini guy. Okay. Well we'll have to get him on yeah he's hopping on mini. Ask him if you can I think he's from mini. Yeah. You wouldn't know what the accent he has. We don't I mean he looks like he sounds like he's from fucking planet Zoltan where he talks but I have to congratulate you Gary. What a first round. I will say that I felt that Utah did have that one in hand and spit it up all over themselves. But at the end of the day you got to make plays and you got to get it done. So congratulations to the Vegas Gold Knights on advancing to the second round against the Anaheim Ducks. What do you think the main reasons as to why they did. I'm looking at special teams. Well it's an interesting take because I've heard that in a bunch of places like that Utah spit it up. Vegas should have won game two. They should have been up to nothing. They had a bad like they had a bad third period in game two. Game three was for sure was Utah. But then Vegas won three in a row four five and six. You know you win three in a row you're the better team. So to me and the last game game six was a cruise right. They won five one. So you know special teams big factor. Jack Eichel just decided at a certain point in time that that Cooley and Gunther were going to get anything done anymore at five one five and they did. Cooley was pretty much held off the score sheet after game two. I think Gunther had a power play goal after game two but he had a couple. He had a couple. It's the beauty of Jack Eichel. They get three. He decides well he had he had three. He had four in the series. Yeah. So he didn't have I'm talking about after game two. He didn't have three goals after game two. Anyways the beauty of Jack Eichel is he determines what the Golden Knights need from him like shift period game. He just decides OK they need me to they need me to score. I can score. They need me to shut down their best their their most dangerous guys. I'll shut them down. He finished the series nine points. He's right near the top of scoring in the National Hockey League and he just was he's just a dominant two way center. It's he was the best player for Team USA at the Olympics in that regard as well. Sully put him out there in all situations. Tortorella has witnessed that. Tortorella said about Eichel halfway through this after I think after game four game five he was like I had him at four nations. I had him at the Olympics. That's the best game I've ever seen him play. And you know I do understand the like the recency bias like people look at Utah and you can say the same thing about Anaheim. They can go boy are they ever talented. Well Vegas is talented too. Barbachev Eichel Dorfeev Marner. We'll talk about Marner in a minute. Bez Stone Hurdle and then on the blue line Theodore Hannaf and Anderson. There's a ton of talent in Vegas as well. They're older. They're a little more experienced but a little slower. Who's faster than Jack Eichel. I'm talking team speed. You think Anaheim or Vegas is faster. If you watch the series like they were they were Utah was the faster team. And like I said they were faster. They were faster. When I threw it over to you a big reason is there's lots of metrics that show that Vegas the pace and rate of play was in favor of Vegas. I mean but I fucking watched. I mean boys when you watch the games like what did you see. Utah was faster Utah but but Vegas but Vegas is very good at or they got very good at slowing them down. So I'll give you that. But here's the here's the thing Gary like I I think Vegas obviously they are proven. They've won a Stanley Cup. Marner looked phenomenally better and better as the series went on. I do feel and maybe you aren't doing this but I know one guy bull up man is that have are overlooking the ducks a little bit. I'm not looking at yeah I'm not looking at ducks. This is a dangerous dangerous team. Troy Terry is you know a lethal shot. You've got Goche has four goals in the series. Leo Carlson is he's a lot like Jack Eichel. He's an excellent two-way player this LaCole nine points already in the in the in the playoffs. Joel Quinville arguably like he's right there with like it's Scotty Bowman and then it's Joel Quinville like they're they're extremely well coached. This is this is a pick them in many ways. You know you're not getting a prediction out of me. I think this is going to be I'll give you a prediction. It's going to be a dynamite series. Yes. And I expect it's you know it's going to be really good for hockey. It's it's Vegas is supposed to have these rivals with Southern California. You know they they had it with LA early on. They beat LA in year one and then LA kind of faded then it was San Jose. That's Northern Cal but then they faded and I don't think Anaheim has been in the playoffs since Vegas his first year in the NHL. I think this is the first time since 1718 that they've been back in and credit to them. You know they've drafted high and they've put together a lethal combination of players and like they dusted the Oilers. Game six wasn't even close and that you know the Oilers arguably have the two best offensive players in the world. I do. I am surprised because Vegas knows usually DraftKings the Golden Knights are minus 210 so it's like they're looking at it like it is it should be and maybe not an easy but a win for Vegas. I do want to ask and you said we get into Mitch Marner. Tortorello said after game six was the best game he played in the series. He was dominant two goals and an assist I believe. What did you see change throughout the series with him and at this point if he's able to finish that series off with that game the expectations for him moving forward into this series they have to be sky high and I would say after Jack Ikel I think that he was the best Golden Knight if not the best player in the series. Well Brett Houdin and Ivan Barbashen at Shea Theodore would put cases forward from themselves. Here's the thing I'll just take the last thing you said the expectations for Mitch are sky high they're not and that's the whole thing about the Golden Knights. Mitch doesn't have to put the team on his back which he did in game six. He doesn't have to do that every night. He has to take his turn. That's the difference between like when he played in Toronto when did the fourth line in Toronto. Cole Smith had two goals Jim Nick Doud had two goals and Colton Sissons had two goals. Six goals they combined for 10 points in the series like it's not up to Mitch every night. Mitch has to do his job and when it's his turn he's got to take his turn. In game four he makes a fantastic play to steal the puck and find Houdin in the slot for the first shorthanded goal. Game five he stays up on the fore check gets in the corner disrupts the play makes a little subtle it's a small thing he nudges the puck like pushes it forward so that Houdin can go get it. Houdin goes in and scores they win game five and then like we forget because it was the first goal of the game Vegas had to score first in game six. They could not let the crowd and the building get into it. Barnard sets up a great feed sets up Houdin again Houdin scores Vegas is on its way and then Mitch he adds two goals later on. What was it like seeing a slap shot from him live. Were you there live. I was there live. I don't think I saw take a slap shot his entire time with the Toronto Maple Leafs. That's why he's played the he's played the top at the power play all year long and it was all sifters like he never he loves the sifters. He's while he's he's fantastic at it so he just the the clapper mark stone pulls one out every once in a while like Mark's usually the wrist and every once in a while there's a slapper from stone and you're like oh my god the Manitoba maniac and it's it's really fun so the torches got this group loose isn't quite the right word but they're not tight for sure and they're having a ton of fun. It's been amazing to watch. I want to listen to you guys talk about about the Oilers and Tampa. I want to a couple stats for you. Since 1718 Vegas now has 66 playoff wins and 13 series wins. That's tied for number one with Tampa. They're in the they're in the second round for the sixth time in nine seasons. Carolina has been to the second round seven times. Vegas is you know Vegas has got to the quarter finals four times or sorry the conference finals four times. I don't think anyone else has done that. So everything they do from here on forward is a huge plus for them and they had seven skaters in the lineup. He talked about Edmonton. So Edmonton beat Vegas last year telling me a criminal determined okay we're not good enough we got to get better. What she does I think every season off season he added seven players and we're not talking about bit guys. He adds Marner, Sissons, Dowd, Smith, Lozon, Anderson and Carter Hart who was the winning goalie for them. I know you guys like call them like whatever nickname you have for him and McPhee. These guys it's a masterclass in pinkie in the brain. Buddy that's a compliment. If they don't take it as a compliment then that's on that. Is it a compliment? I don't know what it means. Like again I don't even know. You ever seen the cartoon Pinkie in the Brain? Wine is a genius. The others insane. I mean it's not a compliment because because he's fucked George McPhee. Apparently when he played he was a fucking nut. He's a sad one. Well then what exactly he fought Rick Tauket and Dave Brown in the same game. There you go. He's a Grinnell is bigger than him. Yeah. Hey, they're not they don't care about the backlash of being cutthroat. Like who the fuck fires a Stanley cutthroat. They're not cutthroat Gary. It's business. Gary. There's business and there's cutthroat business to win. Gary. They're cutthroat. Okay. That's right. I don't understand why it's cutthroat. All players all want to play here. Players look around the league and they're like where can I go? Yeah. Mark Audre, Flurry wanted to play there. Hey, you got you got me on that one and he brings up goal tending. Okay. So we talked throughout the series. Carter Hart found something with torts and he was playing incredible. At one point in this series, Biz is kind of wondering like Aiden Hill want to stand the cup for them. Like Carter doesn't look great. Now I'll say this. He made the big saves when it counted in a lot of those wins but his entire body of work definitely needs to be better. At the same time Dostal was I think the worst goalie in the first round. So it's not like you're worried that you're running into this guy who just had this incredible first round. What do you think about Carter Hart is and and business point was was valid like based on what we saw, there's probably no chance Aiden Hill is playing right if he hasn't played yet. Well, Carter was it was Dynamite in game six. He won two overtime games. Game four is an overtime game. Game five is a double overtime game made a ton of big saves. Game three, they scored four goals on their first eight shots. And someone explained this to me. I called the next game that gave up a three goal lead. So it's like he and that gave me let up four like and I wouldn't say they were all but he won four games right. That's fair. Yeah. That's that gets ignored right at the end of the day. He did what his team needed to do to win the series. Was it was it like a masterpiece? I guess not. This was explained but he also like don't forget like Vegas lost six of seven or sorry seven of eight before before Kelly fired Bruce. They were going to miss the playoffs and and Torz came in and he eventually gave the reins to Carter hard and I think like he was seven oh and one. Yep. Sorry. No, no, he was the game they the shootout loss I think in Seattle. Anyways, like seven oh and one something like that under two way above 900. You know, so game game three, he lets it in four on eight shots. None of them are bad goals, but two of them he stops like nine out of 10 times and it was explained to me the real good starters in the NHL. They have seven really good starts seven a starts then they have you know two B starts and then a C start. Well, that was a C start from him and then he flipped the page and they've been a starts for me ever since. So he certainly has earned the net and teammates love him. He's Torz is very confident in him. Yep. And you talk about Torz like even a little thing I noticed in the last game it was the Heimengold gets called back and there's an offensive zone faceoff and they have Dowd line out there. Dowd wins the faceoff back. They go on and score like how much credit are you giving to a guy like Torz for even putting his fourth line out there in that situation? Well, he's used that on a ton and actually after game six he said I can't call them the fourth line anymore. They're you know like their their ice time is like that's been I'm not going to talk about depth because you guys jammed it down my throat last year but like the ice time in game six forward one who as I believe Marner and then forward 12 the gap in ice time was under five minutes. That's what it was like when they want to stand they cup two because they had that colisar. I think it was Wah and I forget who the other one was. Will Carrier. Belmere. Will Carrier. Belmere was your one yand when they won the cup. If you remember game six against Dallas that line went out like they scored like they just pound that line stole the game. And that's what Kelly McCrimmon wanted to do. Excuse me guys that's what he wanted to do at the deadline. He thought they didn't have a fourth line with an identity. He wanted to get that and he went like this Cole Smith. I didn't know about him Gary. He is he is like a Saturday night in jail. He plays so hard. It's he hits everything. He goes to the net. He's and Nick Dowd like this guy's become I can't believe that Washington let him go. He's become a leader here in no time like he's and Quentin Sissons was kind of lost all year. He didn't have the right mixer match for him. And now all of a sudden he's he was two goals to assist four points in a six game series. What did you guys give up for doubter? I don't even know. I forget. I'll say this Gary. I'm going to look right now. I love that Nick Dowd is you're about to witness a hell of a fourth round fourth line matchup in the second L was VL was amazing. Yeah. Like and I love like this is the same as Smith and Dowd. They don't care who it is. Oh that's it's like like VL. He went after McDavid. These these guys don't care who it is. You saw the you saw Dowd in his comments to to Cooley and it worked. It was a head game like Cooley. He played on the edge and went over the edge a ton. He takes that terrible penalty in game six. Vegas scores on the power play. It basically it ended the game like these guys are they're savvy. They're they want to win. Dowd is never won. He he missed. He got to Washington the year after they won. So he you know he just missed the train and you want to call their cup in Manch Vegas with you. Manch Faggot. That's why I love him. I saw him first hand like he's like you said he wants to win. He's a competitor like like when it comes down to it there's not a ton of guys like that that are willing to do whatever it takes and who are who are also like so confident in the moment when the stakes are stakes are high. So when you witness it you play with a guy like that. That's why I've always been high on him even when he was in Washington and when you guys picked him up I was like oh well that's a sneaky little ad and I'll tell you Gary I got Vegas win in the series in six games. I am a believer. I feel like they're like goaltending I think is going to get better compared to what it was in round one. I think that's a given not to knock him but just thinking like there were some games there where he led up you know four four goals where I'm like okay I don't think we're going to see as much of that and I think that the physicality will wear Anaheim down like I felt that it did against Utah and it will counter counteract their speed and the other thing too man I said special teams and I threw it over to you at first. I think that they were like plus eight on special teams overall in that series against Utah correct. Yeah yeah well they scored two shorties and then they had I think they had four play power play goals so definitely very good. They were very high on the plus minus on special teams so I think that they have a ton going for on their well-balanced lines and it just like the as maybe a big of a stab in the back as it was the Cassidy the reset with torts you guys got some good mojo going right now I'll put it that way buddy and that's why I got my fucking Mitchie Marner jersey on bud. Cut throat back stab I love how he throws these little these little jabs in. I think if you pulled anybody outside of Vegas outside of Gary he's the only one. Yeah I even think that that pinky in the brain would be like yeah we're fucking cutthroat because we're in it to win it baby. By the way guys he's paying us the big bucks to bring rings here. Doud went to sorry Doud went to Vegas for goal-tending prospect Jesper Wittman a 20 27 third round draft pick and a 20 29 second round pick so just more of like we do not care about the future we're here to win and we got our fourth line center. Gary Roback last question use code chickleton roback.com 20% off to the end of the week polos hoodies joggers chic let's on rhoback.com you mentioned the skill stone eichel dorofiev marner you also mentioned Thomas Hurtl what is going on with this guy when was his last goal and and is it is it pace can he not handle the pace he's gonna have four in this series now yeah you know I don't know listen I stopped counting like I like first of all this is one of the best guys in hockey he's like fantastic treats everybody super well through all of this has not stopped smiling so I'm at the rink with his kid the other day there's a team here there's a minor team here there's a hurdle there's a sod there's a patronage on it and like you see these these three guys you know watching watch these three nhl legends watching their kids play and it's kind of it's kind of fun anyways the pace he was actually he got better late in the series so I don't know if something's been bugging him and you never know right like these guys are they in Vegas in particular somebody's got something wrong with them you just don't find out right you know like we're around them all the time so you're kind of like okay you see him you know limping on the on the plane or whatever uh I haven't seen any of that with hurdle but I wonder about that uh you know he's playing with Riley Smith and Keegan Colesar right now so Riley had 16 goals in the regular season but uh you'd like to see maybe a little bit more finish uh playing alongside hurdle uh I don't know if William Carlson is going to play in this round or not I know uh um he skated with the team yesterday he skated before game six in the morning skate uh so our morning skate is coming up here in about 90 minutes so we'll see you know what's happening there he did not take he wasn't on a line yesterday so I don't think he's playing in game one but I would assume when he does return you're not touching the top six you know you're going to mix him with hurdle that might that might be what gets gets him going maybe they can move hurdle to the wing leave the the defensive responsibilities uh to William who like they take her to the stairs okay so then who comes out it's it's colisar or Riley Smith you're not touching the fourth line Riley Smith he wasn't as big of a factor I thought colisar looked great I would be okay see and Riley Smith come out he took torches torches will make that decision you know I mean that'll be that's up to him I don't you know those are good problems to have boys yeah exactly you know what I mean and and Henderson the american league team they're still playing right now uh but there's two guys there braden bowman who played a big chunk of the season here lost his lost his spot because Carter Hart came back and they needed the cap space uh you know I wouldn't be surprised to see if he figured factors in it at some point in time and uh I'm waiting to see Trevor Connelly I might have to wait till next year this kid is uh like he matches up with that speed and skill and the the and the youth that you have in Utah and Anaheim like he's going to be in the mix with they'll be traded this summer yeah yeah yeah exactly um I don't I got a couple special I got a couple a couple follow-ups here and thanks for your time here I love your loyalty to the gold it's unbelievable we need this homerism on our podcast I haven't been homer at all no no you said you said that you thought that the other teams weren't faster than him Gary I don't think they were you said Vegas isn't cutthroat he's getting he's getting bill Foley in the pink the brain spreadsheets I'm telling you right now I know that Grinnell is the henchman if I get screwed on the like the social media clips oh we're gonna screw you oh you're done you're getting it right in the hoop you're getting left but if you win you can really screw us oh yeah that's that's no I can't I can't no we'll make sure that we get screwed we'll get a higher Chetty's guys you're so funny Whitney you will make sure we get screwed have you seen me on the internet from my own guys they're getting me Gary don't worry we'll get we'll get us we'll get other when I like I don't know where you live but I guy was like I was gonna put in an APB for you last week like I wanted to send a therapist to your house hey Gary he's got one had a bigger much in the history of professional sport than you did in the last two Gary the problem would be if I had that week and I didn't have the haters coming in droves in the thousands that would be the problem okay that would be the problem right there and I guess I got slaughtered by your legions last year they like like I wake up every once in a while I'll grab my phone I'll throw it on Twitter there's like four thumbs on my timeline some guy you know some guys called me some guys called me tubby already not tubby again like mean people mean mean people on the old worldwide web Gary quack I had by the way of course now you did of course you did of course I I I followed all like you know all the real smart guys and I you know I did an exact with the eight in the 18 I did all this stuff and then I worked for this I do work for for a sports app called boomers and they're having a derby party at this really cool casino just off the strip so I go there and a bunch of my buddies come over there's six of us sitting at a table it's five minutes before post time and I'm like hey let's all throw 10 bucks in and bet a long shot and they're like yeah yeah yeah and they're like who do we who are we gonna take so I'm looking at the board I'm like golden golden nights golden temple let's so we put 60 bucks on the nose for the win on golden temple we're sitting there watching the race and at the very end like this horse like I don't even forget his number 19 19 matthew kachok past Larry Robinson please and thanks Steve guys all three are good gets the win and one of the one of the guys wives looks at me and says what horse is that and I look I look I had it written down 19 oh golden temple and we went bananas we're the only table in the place we're high-fiving and hugging we cashed 1447 dollars beautiful boy left to left left a big tip everybody like everybody took home like 200 bucks it was really that'll get you a Mickey at one of those day clubs in Vegas I got a couple questions on the way out um if bill Foley called you three in the morning and he's a we got a one of these guys in the locker room won't rave is no move clause we got a bury a body right now would you do it for him yeah oh he's he's he's Joe Pesci and good fellas like cutting the hind legs off the human to bury a get a base he said they're not cut throat he's got a shovel in his car at all times the longtime mayor of Las Vegas Oscar Goodman he's in the movie right he's uh I forget the character that Pesci plays look that up for us Mikey uh he looks like I'm on the show I'm telling Grinnell to look stuff up I got comfortable boys you'd be giving us that ticket money this guy gets uh he has these dinners and it's like somebody took me it's but it's like they're like it's a grand deceit you know what I mean and someone invited me I went to it he tells the stories because he said to me he goes he said at the start he goes I don't have a filter I don't keep any secrets all the guys are are either they're they're all dead they're all gone I'm the last one standing so he it is so much fun that gets the stories behind they're all very easy mobile that are in casino uh I work for Bill Foley so um whatever whatever bill whatever bill asks I'm probably doing and uh my last question and we usually ask this for for guests who represent teams what is your x factor for the golden nights in order to win this series and do you have a hurdle I got one why don't we let Wickel first then Gary if you don't know it's not really an x factor though so I might have messed that up but Gary tell me if you agree if Ikele out plays Leo Carlson this thing's done that's it that's it right there that will be a very important matchup in the series I almost think the top sixes kind of cross one another out and they got a good top six right you know Crieder Carlson Terry Caloran was fantastic in that series yeah uh Caloran Grandland and Seneca so I think they kind of match up and then it's the bottom six and the fourth line was the x factor for Vegas in round one uh I'm gonna roll with them again if if they can have another big series and I love these guys like like I got the I got the I got to hang with with Douter and and TJ Oshie for a little bit during TJ did did a game in our series so I got to watch those guys and watch your toes nice nice drop boys watch your toes names then oh sorry they were at a pool party too you know what I thought you guys would appreciate it because you're all Americans yeah it's just talking yeah it's yeah listen I get bullied you should see us on the golf course no wonder I can't even have a back swing it's getting stabbed by ants backs a set it doesn't drop a little uh Shakespeare on him a two brute that can be your line to uh to yans moving forward I can't even speak English I don't know what you just said ah but keep going Gary what were you saying before I just like this fourth line I I think it's special I think it gives them a real identity I also you know Raspus Anderson doesn't have uh doesn't have a goal yet and he's been close he's played a ton of minutes he played like 34 minutes in the double overtime game he likes playing that much Shay Theodore is finding his game that's it I'm going with Shay Theodore Shay Theodore is you're expecting love it former duck former duck getting some power play time now after not having to be on the number one unit all year Shay Theodore is going to have a series boys how hard you think uh Liam Bluntman right is right now after listening to stroke that team off he said this morning on wake up barstool he would be shocked if Vegas doesn't beat the ducks I was like wow six games I'm rolling with you Gary so would you be shocked biz would shock be the word you used if ducks win this series I would be shocked wow okay you were bloody on the same page I would be shocked man and I actually think that that bet that he told Dave to make was a smart one I actually am like I'm kind of seeing the light Gary it might be something that you and Bill and and the and pinkie in the brain put my drink so that's you picking if Colorado and Vegas win you're picking Vegas to be Colorado that's I think that that would be an epic series all right we're ahead of ourselves we're ahead of Gary thank you thank you hold on I got one do I have to go no your podcast Gary you tell Grinnelli to go get your soda at the pool party bet and Wallace. Whit what like what's this I heard you did this morning Vegas was the worst team in the NHL for four months I said they were one of the worst teams in the NHL for four months Gary I think they are under based on an underachievement they were brutal Gary they were brutal Gary they were brutal Gary they were brutal Gary that's not split hairs here I think if they're not in the worst division at hockey they're not in playoffs I'll say that we're now going into that that they weren't one of the worst teams in the league for four months they fired their coach Gary that won him a Stanley Cup that was that a cut was that a cut throat move like I don't get it which one which one I actually don't consider that is cut throat I don't I don't I do that's why I asked them I said do you not feel like you deserved what I asked them on the panel which I saw you ask him I asked him I wouldn't hey hey these guys said they got a bunch of texts and tweets that I was sucking his cock on the panel because I didn't go at him about how he how he runs uh he gets hard on players does he not is that one of his I can't answer this because I can't be attached to the opening statement here Grinnell can't put out a a clip with that's literally that what you said word for word wasn't it when on the on the on the video yeah oh yeah is that making uncomfortable I thought you did a great job asking him that question and the one breakdown he did of the power play yeah like it was about how you typically drop it but then you did he just bypasses it yeah oh Bruce Cassidy power play breakdown is is Viagra to Gary I mean this is what we're talking about here this is a this is a guy that brought a Stanley Cup to Vegas Gary will think of that power play breakdown on TNT at night when he can't sleep boys that's Gary Gary I'll tell you bring the thunder on this show I love having you on this show I hope you never ever start coming on because you're electric and you're opinionated and you back up your opinions you are a Vegas golden nights Homer and I respect the hell out of you for it bud I don't I don't agree with the Homer part but everything else is very good because listen if you listen to us on our broadcasts we keep it real we know we never make it personal yeah so does the abs broadcast they keep it real too all right Gary about them thank you so much yeah Gary's gonna have artwork in his house of that whiteboard that butch wrote out Picasso we love you Gary I've got a Stanley Cup replica trophy my wife keeps it in their garage or not I'm not in charge of the art in this house at all hey we'll see you for we'll see you next round for the breakdown it would be great I'd love to be here thanks guys see Gary I love Gary I mean people sending him people sending him thumb emojis that's dirty Keith that's dirty but guys we got murals coming on murals is a happy man today I think he's a happy man he's lucky that game one was last night but before we get to we are talk noble biz I got an 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the next couple games I expect he's a swede man he's a Viking he's gonna get back in there as soon as he can bluff me said he's had a no contact jersey on too like so it's almost listen if Gary says he's not playing this round and he plays by game two we have to like suspend Gary for he didn't say he's not playing that did he said he said I don't know if he's playing this round but Mer when he said it my spider sense went off this fucking guy the thumb the legend of Gary Lawless he knows his plan he's working but Bill Foley was on the other side of the computer screen with a rifle point no he wasn't he had his hand up his ass he was like a puppet yeah just Gary though Mer I don't know if you missed any getting like him him like trying I'm not in this Instagram internet world and I can't imagine a guy like that being like what is happening to me after fake after orders beat them last year um but Mer you were down because Minnesota they took care of Dallas you you called them the frauds they get out of the first round first time in what was it 11 years they look great doing it the scary part is in game six Eric Sinek goes out he crashes into the boards just fell on his own and I'm like oh no no no no no they cannot afford to lose him he comes back they close him out you're down and then we get game one we're gonna kind of have to go over both no Eric Sinek no Bro Dean that spells disaster for the series if they're both out long term for the wild yeah so first like I know there's a lot more listeners on here than have my Twitter where I made my apology video I don't know if everybody understood it it was a sad video like I was like oh my god he's down and I tried to put on like uh can we play it yeah he had the red shirt on in the video and a hat backwards I tried to look like him as best I could and if they pull it up you'll see but I say you know you're good looking I'm bad looking everybody knows that that quote but yeah I apologize the Minnesota fans they were right I was wrong um but all my decisions are always calculated RPI guy here with I knew who was coming in the second round I knew I was going to get a redemption and here we are okay now I'll go into game one and and say that the group chat was probably one of the funniest nights we've had I thought because that was whoever first said we had to have some sort of oilers hockey in the playoffs with them gone made me laugh that was crack hockey that was I don't I don't even that was beyond crack whatever whatever's beyond crack because I've never seen two teams play less defense at one point there was a two on oh goal for the wild short handed by Felino who I think didn't score for 50 games this year and he looked like he had 50 on that move but the wild the wild wild coming back down from down 3-0 taking the lead all of a sudden it's 5-5 and losing that game that to me is like oh no man if they couldn't get that one if they couldn't pull their goalie at some point in that game which is the one question I have like how does how does wall step not get the hook in that game but Macar who leaves on the one of the funniest looking hits I've ever seen his foot was above the glass after Felino ran him over he leaves then comes back looks like he's completely mangled doing his little test spin then we get a video of him rubbing something on his hip where everyone thought it was the ankle well no it's probably the hip but then he just dominated moving forward and while Quinn used was probably the best player on the ice maybe right there the wild still got trucked 9-6 I don't know who wants to take it because you were on the broadcast what'd you see um yeah I was more frustrated with Colorado just having a 3-0 lead all that rest game in hand and then just making some fucking bonehead mistakes like the one the Neutral Zone face off where how do you say that the defenseman number 37's last name no it's us what is it Clayton Berg no Clayton Berg is it is it Clayton Berg Gatlin Berg it's right when I can't black and Berg but a what a goal Connor Clayton Berg no no no no that I'm thinking of someone else black and black and black and black and Berg mini mini macar so what a goal what what well what a goal he scored but then on the face ensuing face off in the Neutral Zone like a few minutes later he just loses coverage to like make it another one goal game so like just some of the bonehead mistakes they were making when they basically had the game in hand against a tired team coming in who were riding high off of emotions following a series win against Dallas that's where my mind was and then of course the 2-on-0 goal uh when they were on the power play so just a crazy game overall now you said Quinn Hughes was the best player on the ice I would argue the fact that like considering macarre got injured and then came back and then scored fucking two goals and had an assist I was pretty impressed with him and that was one of the story lines coming in where we're going to see the two best defensemen on the planet going head to head so I was a little nervous early on after he did the splits over Marcus Folino's heads there and then he goes down the tunnel haven't only played a minute and a half right he was going full Cirque de Soleil mode on him I was rattled I was like no no no he cannot be out like this series needs both of them no yeah well so that that to me is why things came unraveled a bit and bones touched on it all of a sudden when macarre went down the tunnel they were down to 5D Blackenburg was one of them so you had every guy every D man going out there like whatever it was and then playing their offside in some situations like Brent Burns typically I think plays the right side he was playing left side on one of the goals like missed his guy Hartman net front covered show it was a bit of a gong show but once macarre finally came back I thought that they settled in a lot better and then of course it was the macarre show I mean two goals what how dynamic he is on the blue line and enjoying the rush and doing what he does not taking anything away from Quinn Hughes because he was fucking tremendous too we saw both of the top world class defensemen fully on display but I do think when macarre is at the top of his game he's in a level on his own I don't know if I don't know if we all agree on that but uh incredible I'm starting to change my stance where like they're both pretty even to me when they're at the top of their game I think yeah maybe I'm giving like 0.3% to macarre but what I'm seeing from Quinn Hughes it's incredible now I will say this it did look like he kind of got out of the way in that shot was that's what I'm saying little things like net front and defensively way more of an edge to macarre okay fair like not saying he doesn't get like Quinn Hughes doesn't gap properly or or surf properly an angle always has stick in the right place like I'm not saying he's a liability defensively I just think when you're talking about in some cases where you have to out muscle or box a guy out net front or maybe willing to sacrifices but then again if I have Quinn Hughes in my lineup I'm saying I want you to be Keith Yandle I want you getting the fuck out of the way if the puck's coming through right Yance yeah 100% and he even saw a couple like dump ins too he kind of hesitated going back but he's also playing so much he's on the ice every other shift like you can't expect him to do everything and that's when you're gonna miss a guy like Brodeen like is there a time on him Murrow? No I haven't heard anything on him and here's the thing about Brodeen being out I love Jake Middleton man we've had him on incredible interview just like just a hockey guy man like but he's all of a sudden playing a lot more and you saw on the Drury goal right he kind of I think he went for the high flip out of the zone and whiffs on that one and then what was the other one he made? The other one in the corner just turned it over like I think he just like he got it stripped the guy got position on him and basically took it away from him like two goals. He's just playing a little bit too much now with Brodeen out Brodeen skates like the win like that this this this matchup with Oproudine and and Erick Sinek I I man I love this wild team I'm happy for their fans I want a great series they need those two guys and I it sounds like Erick Sinek could play game three based on him coming back in game seven I was I was kind of surprised he wasn't in the lineup here but that's why I was nervous I was nervous for McCarr I thought McCarr's was looked like when he hit the glass maybe his ankle went a certain way where you're like oh no high ankle sprain that would be my guess for Erick Sinek the way that he crashed into the wall and when your blade catches on the yellow um but you know he finished that game just like McCarr did sometimes when the game's over you take off the boot then you're in one for the next couple weeks like that's the worst part about a potential high ankle sprain boys I'm going to be honest I I was going to pick Minnesota in seven games in the series and then when I found out Erick Sinek was out and then it's looking like Brodeen might be done for at least half the series I don't think there's a trick and dex chance that that that Minnesota could win this without those two guys in their lineup yeah Minnesota Wilder one in seven without Erick Sinek in the playoffs fun stat for you guys I think that Josh Manson being out too for call I mean I know they won last game but you give up a six piece uh him being out hurts them like just kind of settling everything down uh I I don't know what his timeline is but he's another guy that like you need him on your team if you're gonna go far you need him in the lineup if you're gonna you know make it to the Stanley Cup finals to beat a team like Minnesota so who know hopefully he's back soon because he's a he's a fun guy to watch especially during playoffs and you talk going back to to Erick Sinek all of a sudden like big sexy has to play more minutes where normally he's that fourth line center so everybody's playing a little bit out of position right now for for Minnesota and oh man yeah Manson's tough loss too is Manson listed to come back anytime soon I haven't seen anything we just and if we talk to any of the insiders they're gonna Gary Lawless us they're not gonna give us any answers would you guys I ask bones a similar question uh did do you think that you break up Faber and Hughes if you have no bro Dean in order to just kind of help help out the situation defensively no doubt and and I think Spurgeon's so solid right so I feel like they're like all right our captain he'll play with Middleton but I would say Faber and Quinn are obviously better than Spurgeon right so you'd rather have one of them I think you put Faber with Middleton have Hughes with Spurgeon right and and I think Faber could calm it down a little bit now I do want to bring up two of the sickest goals we've seen in the playoffs that McKinnon pass off the pads to himself biz that is like that is for you I was cranking it last night yeah for sure I knew you were on a pass off the pads to yourself like you even you couldn't have imagined that and then just how does he know Leckinen's there and by the way he's not throwing that thing blind he knows somehow quick shoulder check peripheral vision incredible pass to Leckinen but that Tarasenko forest burg move guy draped all over him that was like the the entertainment factor of that game was nuts it had to drive the coaches insane but Mer at what point in the game were you like why is wallstatt still in this game I thought your only chance to do it was at the three nothing yeah once it was a it's a game it's it's hard to take them out when it's it's three three four four five you're up five four everybody forgets they were up five four after that shorty and then my car yeah and then maybe I would that's why I wanted biz to ask ask like a real coach like maybe at that intermission you can do something too I wouldn't have been surprised if either team changed their goalies well at this point I asked biz do you see Colorado making a change no chance hasn't lost yet so how are you gonna do that I would guess Gustafsons Gustafsons playing the next game would you guys agree with that yeah I think it's a perfect spot because if you do lose it I mean it matters but that's the perfect game he loses you go back home there you go the wall of st paul he's back he's got his rest for the rest of the series and then and then you go with him it's the perfect game to give him a game off I know I mean you guys even talked about on the panel last night like that wasn't real hockey it's October hockey I hope every fucking game is like that Sam it was such a joy to watch it was so fun imagine not being like the biggest hockey fan watching that Montreal Tampa game and then switching on that game you'd be like what the this is the same league so I hope every game is like this I doubt it's gonna happen because you know both teams are well coached but if every games like that I will be the happiest guy on the planet so you would rather that late like later in this series say it's a close out game over like an unreal battle 0-0 go I would have rather games I would rather game six of Montreal Tampa in Montreal than zero zero but that zero zero game was like that's what I'm kind of saying that as entertaining as that was forgetting to the end of the series I think I'm looking for just I would say better game although some people say I'm crazy that that was so fun to watch and that would be the idea of a great game yeah I think that zero zero game you got both from both teams like the game seven was kind of mostly Tampa Bay so I would no I don't know I'd rather six five I'd rather every game with ten goals at least I just found it frustrating I guess knowing if you're not a hockey fan and you're unaware of what's going on I just found it frustrating where I'm like man these are two teams that could potentially win a Stanley Cup that are making mistakes that like even like might not even make right face off responsibility oh Caprice off Caprice off on the one face off play where was he going where was he going it's my car is your d-man he's fucking walking down Broadway and it was the same thing for him on the the I think it was goal one it was goal one when Nages ended up finding McKinnon back door right that was Malinsky Malinsky's was the first call excuse me a lot of a lot of brain even the um yeah Nate dog like kind of like gave up on one of the back checks it was a lot of brain farts in that game I was going to ask you guys about that so they get the zone entry and it's my car going through on the zone entry and he bumps it back to landis god landis god kind of leaves a shit sandwich bank because he puts it on McKinnon's backhand and kind of jams him up McKinnon kind of just shut it down but should it not be Nages as that weak side essentially the defenseman in that situation because McCarr blew through like should Nages not be the safety valve weak side to then just like curl up and like I think Nate thought there was a safety valve and then by the time he realized there wasn't he started going but at the beginning it looked like he's like he was going to change but Nages is on the far side not doing anything and not involved on that zone entry and they don't have possession yet I thought that Nate just should have been the one like covering for him that might be because I'm like a life I'm a Nate dog lifer and there's no he can do no wrong in my eyes I'm like I go Gary Lawless when you talk about the dog but uh but yeah that was a that was a clusterfuck of a game and just I don't know who coined it but that's crack hockey baby crack hockey crack hockey it was it was actually beyond crack hockey was I was saying it got closer to meth hockey but wit was talking about the 2022 when the avalanche and oilers opened up with crack hockey game one eight six eight six so I did some digging did some stats for you guys the next game the avalanche won four nothing game three avalanche won four two and then game four went back to crack hockey avalanche won six five so if you're expecting it to we got some crack continued it and may continue a little bit mer let me ask you a question um you had the abs that was your that was your rpi brain no matter what they got the abs next if ericsson ek and brodeen were playing would you still be like yeah no chance abs custom no chance fraud squad or after that Dallas series are you like okay I was wrong you were right no you know I saw how good Minnesota was during that series but I had I drew my line in the sand as they say I couldn't go back on it but yeah they're awesome they're fast they were so much faster than Dallas ericsson ek brodeen I would have guessed it would have been a seven game series but without them it's it's abs in five who is a bigger upset losing first round Dallas or Edmonton and I know Minnesota is a better team than oh Edmonton I think Edmonton just because how bad Anaheim was at the end of the season that's why everybody given with a hard I still don't get it it were I think two and ten down the I wouldn't have said any of those ridiculous stupid dumb comments I said how they weren't so pathetic at the there was a chance at one point they were gonna miss the playoffs and then all of a sudden they they they start the series first game they can't do anything I'm like okay I I missed the boat on this one quack um all right well I I I really hope I really hope that Erickson ek brodeen are back in game three don't know but I'm just going to if I could just touch on Dallas I think that that is like a prime example of why the deadline matters so much to they picked up bunting and they picked up Myers and you know bunting was basically a why the healthy scratch till there was Myers in game six and then well yeah bunting till I think game five he got inserted and then Myers just like yeah had a very forgettable series right and look at the impact that big sex he made for for Minnesota I got two big goals there and yeah yeah what's that that guy like down as well that's what I'm saying and like you look at what yeah like you oh wow that that trade like they gave up a goalie prospect a second and a third like that's a lot but like they obviously looked at what they were getting and they they studied it and it ended up panning out right so sometimes not cut throat though not cut throat so deadline matters and I thought that the moves that Minnesota made paid off of them and the moves that Dallas didn't but ultimately no rupee hints was a was a huge and the one thing too is is Bluntman said is he goes they were never a contender I guess if you were looking at it if you're saying before the series started no rupee hints no second like is that a contending team on paper okay his opinion makes sense in that regard but I think if you finish second place in that division and in top five over on the league you deserve to be labeled a contender when you have goal tending like that you have a lot of skilled superstar players on your team so I don't know where Dallas goes from here I think that maybe we've seen the end of Jamie Ben and a Dallas Stars uniform that was a tough really that was a tough buddy what are you gonna do like he was not he's not good like you he's not good he's got older I'm yeah I'm way more curious about the Robertson situation and I don't they're either gonna trade him or they're gonna sign him and but he proves himself funny he was the best player he was incredible all year then he scores in the playoffs like I don't really get the the storyline for a long time now is like oh he's on the market he's gonna get tricked it's like why don't you sign that guy I what are we missing here well but by not doing that they've cost themselves a lot of money in some yes space like he's making 12 million if you want him now like who he's he's like I think Alex Tuck ends up back in Buffalo there's nobody even close to Jason Robertson when it comes to wingers as far as free agents like maybe maybe he would have taken a discount maybe he would have taken a discount too before but they have been signed him now he's like fuck that I'm getting as much buddy people keep saying RFA RFA no I know he's saying fuck you pay me they don't have a ton of cap space this summer either they only have 11 million caps somebody is gonna desperately want to pay him and yeah and there's a lot I mean we haven't even brought up the the elephant in the room glass bang guy shows up to Minnesota doesn't even get a front row seat second row you can't be glass bang guy if you're in the second row and then they lose like you want to blame anyone you talk hints injury you talk and jaymey band bad series glass bang guy buying a seat in the second row in Minnesota that was the end that was a pardon on my take from that no pun intended there but like I should get pardoned the end and it sucks because we are robbed of Natalie the the one with the massive massive jugs she had tickets behind Dallas's bench for game seven if it would have went back to Dallas so we missed out on that that might be one you dig on you don't dig usually you dig on that one though I I got a few texts I got okay I did I got the inside information on that one and as far as the game ops in Minnesota they put him on the jumbotron they did that and smart and Minnesota scored a minute later and then that was the series it was over they never looked back from there so yeah if you're not sitting on the glass you can't be glass bang guy that that's as simple as anything we've ever heard on this show um all right we didn't really get a chance though when we broke down vegas with Gary to pump anaheim's tires at all in preparation for for that series you're right you're right we have to double risk the anaheim ducks and what they got a percent I just I I can't believe Jackson look home I said I don't know if it was a video or something I did that's the best defense we're in the next series too and and I shea theater was awesome raspice Anderson talk all you want about these guys what I just witnessed was one of the most dominating series by a defenseman I've ever seen he had nine points boys he shut down mcdavid while injured doesn't matter the guy skates like the wind he's a tank he buried hymen I don't know what game was that game one or two a cold shoulder that was straight out of peter forceburg playbook the guy can play the entire game he runs their power play he plays all situations it's the chris pronger definition of a number one defenseman and then you get goatee scoring choreo terry boys I want to make this clear when we were laughing and having a great time with his no hit season that's not chirping I had a couple ducks fans you go to no no no this guy is so smart he's so good with the puck he doesn't need to hit he does not need to hit it now another person reached out and they said that was the least physical series of the first round now all right well you want to say that it's is vagus gonna gonna rough him up and is he gonna have to be more physical I don't think that guy has to be him not hitting just proves how smart of a player he is and he could score and then leo call son it's the leo call son effect for me that I'm watching games and I see this six five giant flying through the neutral zone dominating every shift he's out there where yeah you have jack eichel can jack eichel neutralize him that was my thing if jack eichel outplays him it's over vagus wins but I don't think that's like a guarantee that's my thing leo calls now they're ahead of schedule boys but I think what what gary was saying about jack like he did it at the olympics he just did it to the first line of utah like is there a line that he can't shut down like he's so good defensively and also offensive like if he really just focuses on playing d and doing a good job against that line I don't think there is a line in the nhl that can that can do anything against them I think that happens more than people realize is sometimes those top lines because they're so good and good at playing both ways that they kind of neutralized one another right like look at look at munchery all like I'm not saying that Suzuki and those guys in coffield and slath had a horrendous series but they were definitely neutralized and in some cases did a pretty good job against kuch as well right I'm not so it kind of goes both ways but it's yeah it's unreal how jack can can do it both ways and that's what makes him probably what top top five center in the world yeah for sure five I I I do gary a lot of love for the vagus fourth line I'm biased what I just witnessed have you ever seen leon dryside will get hit like that no in game six that was crazy ran he ran him over and he they were running mc david and one of them once again he's a defenseman Ian Moore played at harvard and then you got washy and then you got the owl I like their fourth line better and maybe I'm just going against the thumb right now maybe I just can't handle the thumbs cockiness in his attitude and his confidence but you know good for you thumb good for you gary but I just witnessed the fourth line basically dominate a series against the oilers so going back to the comb 66 minutes he played five on five against connor mc david in that series and I know connor wasn't healthy like fully healthy uh and who was this d partner lugging 60 60 five on five minutes against that line but even if he's not even if he's not healthy mc david like it's still a good confidence boost for the comb you're still shutting down one of the best players to ever lace up the ccm's in the history of the game so I think you're gonna it gotta expect more another guy too on that team paling he had I think he had four goals that series like big body guy skates well remember when he came in the league I think he had a hat trick his first game in the league in montreal and then kind of dipped a little bit but now he's one of those guys you look at him he's kind of built for playoffs if he can continue on that third line like this is going to be a hell of a series and I think Gary Gary's in for a little bit of a surprise I don't I think if dostal plays the same as he did in the first series is ended five yeah that's why I was gonna say dostal's got to be back to how we how he can play how he played for check how he played the start of the year but the best thing was this little comb I saw an interview after the game with him and it reminded me of when I was I think 18 years old coming on campus for the first time and you'd meet a senior and he had this big giant knack in like this big head and you're like whoa these guys are different because you don't see that anymore these NHL guys they're all so little and frail because if there's no hitting skater on this guy is just he's a man and and he was awesome I know Connor was hurt but he was awesome the duck speed is going to give Vegas some trouble Utah speed gave him some trouble and the ducks are better than them so I think it's going to be Vegas in seven games and just because the Vegas veteran leadership and Ikel will wear them you just mentioned Lacombe is he from Minnesota yes yeah so I got a text from Jeremy Clark he was a guy who one of our trainers in LA he still works for the Kings and he texted me he goes just saw your clip on Jackson Lacombe kid is in my gym last summer he'd get ID'd for milk looks 11 but fucking strong sneaky doesn't make sense strong he hasn't hasn't had a tilt yet but he wants one I guess he's just an absolute freak in the gym like just like it like inhumane strength you remember the guy at Penn State there the football player with the big neck yeah who was with us in the box what was his oh um giants right yeah third overall Abdul Carter yeah that's what it kind of when I first saw right we had this big neck I was like oh man did he get busted for tugging off in class was that a joke I think that was a rumor I think that was a rumor I don't think that was true and I don't even think it was class it was a parent meeting a team meeting and then I don't even think it was true so that's all a tough rumor yeah that tough tough tough rumor um yeah shout out Anaheim I have oh see like I I think Vegas is gonna win but I don't care I'm picking the ducks I'm picking the ducks I was also a duck boys don't forget I was an Anaheim duck I'm going the ducks in seven Fizz you got Vegas I got Vegas in six I got ducks in seven okay and then I'm going uh Colorado in six I don't I think we did we make all those no I got I got Colorado in five I'll say I'll say Colorado in six now the injury reports brutal uh that they can't win without Eric's neck simple as that and broke and brody yeah five five yeah he's sticking he's he's made his line in the sand folks going to the east the Bruins done and and and let's be honest here even with my moment my disastrous moment with this sword it couldn't even stop the Sabres the Bruins not even close without Jeremy Swamin I mean if you look at those two teams the Sabres are so much better they had a performance by Swamin that was just unreal in so many of the games but nothing will stop in the Sabres against the Bruins and I do want to show the one picture from the third goal in game six in Boston I sent the picture Josh Stone got this puck he beat McEvoy and pasta big time miscommunication on who's going who's going to the net front and don't right there if you could see that picture McEvoy's holding back looks like they both have a step on or at least McEvoy does he gets there takes an enormous I think elbow to the head and dishes it in front to Benson three one curtains for the Bruins the Sabres boys I thought that thing was going seven I was almost certain it was going seven based on the Bruins effort in game four at home they didn't they didn't do anything else in this game G your team I don't know where they go I saw you say you're very happy with their season yeah I wouldn't argue that expectation's super low and they make the playoffs they get to game six but not even close to the Sabres level no no I think the Buffalo Sabres were clearly the better team in this series but the reason I'm excited is because the Bruins have typically struggled with developing young talent Frazier Minton is that guy like he I had the chance to meet him the past what do you mean by that guy I think he can be that number one or two center that they've lacked for years this was his rookie season and look what he did he was a difference maker for a majority of the regular season what usually happens to rookies at the end of their rookie season they run out of steam I'm not surprised by it but this kid is so mature on the ice and mature off the ice I've had a chance to talk to a few of his teammates they're so high on this kid you got Marat Kuznodinov I love this kid I think he can be a rat I think he's a part of the core moving forward you have a coach like Marco Sturm took this team let's let me remind everyone going into the season they had the fourth worst odds to win the Stanley Cup they were a lottery team everyone expected them to be a lottery team and Marco Sturm came in and put on a coaching performance for the ages this season and brought the Bruins back to the playoffs so um what's crazy too is the draft lottery tomorrow has such an impact on the Bruins future if it goes if the Toronto Maple Leafs get the fifth round the fifth overall pick the Bruins don't have that early round pick and it gets pushed to next season you can get look what Porter Martone just did for the Philadelphia Fires they got him what six overall so if you can get a difference maker like Porter Martone in this year's draft the Bruins future is so much brighter but as for the series like you said Buffalo was just a better team I like you kind of said on on wake up Barksville this morning I knew going into this series like the Bruins weren't going to win it just you have that delusional fan in the back of your head saying they're going to do it they're going to do it so I'm really not too mad and I think a lot of Bruins fans feel the same way with me this team is the future is bright and James Hagens I'm very excited for what he's going to bring gee I'm going to have zero points yeah what yeah but I still loved what I saw from him I again yeah like he ran out of steam in the playoffs like but all season I think I think Minton was great Marat didn't have any points either and I thought he was awesome as well gee what about the closing comments from pasta though he's not getting any younger what he says 30 years old I hope one sniff listen I hope that was my one thought process was dawn sweetie better be fucking listening because this guy like he ran out of steam at the end of the season too like he you can only carry a team so far like this guy is incredible and he's been incredible for the past three seasons he's carried this team so what they need to do this summer they need to address the top six you need scoring buddy you need scoring you have to get some high-end skill whether that's you know a big trade or you know someone comes up from the system but you need to address the top six and you need a right-handed defenseman you need a top four defenseman because the D right now it's not good enough unfortunately it's not good enough you signed Hampus Linholm to be a 1a defenseman he is he's a 3c defenseman right now like this guy I'm not a big Hampus Linholm guy you talked about that play with Josh Stone there Hampus Linholm should have been back checking he could have picked up Zach Benson in front of the net but he didn't he wasn't back checking so I think with how good the Atlantic is in the east I would bet that they don't make playoffs next year yeah I feel like they're kind of I'll take that I'll take that bet with you biz yeah well I don't think that's a crazy statement to make I definitely don't think it's a no I think I think I think they overachieved this year it was a great year like good for Sturm to come in there and reestablish the culture and I think that Swamin not dealing with the contract bullshit coming in got his mind right and you know they rode good gold ton in the whole year yeah I think you're spot on I think the schedule played into like the Bruin style of play like you're playing three four games a week and you have Mark Castellic starring against you throwing the puck in deep it's like you don't want to have to deal with Castellic and Geno and all these just motherfuckers so yeah I wouldn't it wouldn't surprise me if they took a step back next year but I do think it was really encouraging in the press conference that Marco Sirm had yesterday he basically said like we need better players we squeezed everything we could out of the eyes of in line yeah like we we got to go get everybody but there's not available there's none out there's not available so that's kind of like the um because I got a question for you yes sir so Charlie McAvoy yep um they're saying they're saying a slew foot by Benson he is wires crossed the baseball bats swing he has an in-person hearing so it can be six or more game suspension I got a text about this from somebody said I'd love to hear your guy's opinion do you believe he should have come back out for the handshake line uh no no I kind of like I'm indifferent like any if you have one the guy asked a question I said oh that's an interesting one I they're not allowed to I think that I think it's probably not allowed nothing how many how many career fights does Charlie McAvoy have I don't know I don't know the answer to that well I I told him I go I think McAvoy probably as I think he probably knows I'm getting suspended for that slash and if I see Benson in line I'm probably in another six games added to it that was kind of my thought like I'm not shaking that guy's hand right now the old dino cistern really I can't believe I just shook that fucking guy's hand about Claude Lemieux in 96 but the way it ended it was just like this Benson guy no wonder he's a cult hero in Buffalo the way that that guy plays is so perfect for the playoffs he's tiny there is a lot of Brad Marchand now I don't know if he'll ever become that type of scorer but this guy he's going to drive people insane and much I said I used the Gallagher comparison and now they're going to be going at one another Gallagher obviously out when he was a lot younger in his career just going to the net always getting that stick in the goalie's hands when he's froze the puck just like anything and he's just got that fucking look on his face where I get why McAvoy wanted to baseball swing his head off like I get that I just think the guy just thank God it wasn't a beer sword is there a there is your arm off the rumors is there any truth to the rumors that I heard that he was actually in the blade gang last year yes he was okay he was the one of the founding members the only thing I didn't like about the McAvoy thing is why does McAvoy have to get in there for himself I think someone else on the Bruins should have been yeah but do you think that he actually he actually slew for them like like I didn't really get a chance to look at the video he kind of got the the foot I don't think it was on purpose maybe but like yeah he did get him and you know it's enough at the end of the game that things over for wire cross like I got it okay we've talked we've talked about it recently like anything that happens that has to do with feet in the NHL guys lose their mind I would have broken yaw though two guys he's got a broken but it's fucking Benson like I would have just went over there and fucking I wouldn't have baseball swung him I would have just dropped them and if you fucking you would have got less games for trying to out-eye gouge him at the bottom of the pile or squeeze it was over like everybody knew it was over you the only person that was mad was like McAvoy it wasn't even the game was done so I defend other guys on the yeah I think post it was possible the other guy who was in there and he was like what's going on yeah I'm just trying to book my trip on Expedia and get the fuck out of town here trying to get the cancun man um yeah tough but going to going back to Benson like what's awesome is think of how many big guys he's got around him so he can get away I'm not said they got like the toughest team in the league it sucks that Carrick's out they got but they do have some guys they're like Malastine will chuck them so they got guys like Benson can do that I'm sure he would answer his own bell if against Muncher all I don't think there's anybody he's scared of boss maybe try to kill him maybe yeah but he doesn't have to answer the bell to Anderson there's other guys he doesn't have to answer the bell to anyone now that's that's basically what like what's kind of happened with the league and I think I think if I'm Martin St. Louis I go have a talk with Gallagher and I say that's your guy that's your guy you want to make your memory you want to make everyone remember Gallagher and Muncher y'all 10 years down the road 15 years down the road like on an even bigger recall you fucking go for the fucking head of the snake that little fucking puke rat that little gritty bitch Wednesday a Wednesday night game one Gallagher Benson tilt will just set that series off by the way I'll whip my cock out at the desk Muncher y'all please do a guess that that that Joe Thornton style four goal game that crowd at the bell center well much when they were in Tampa it was there wasn't an empty seat I I've seen the arenas do the crowd while the teams on the road that one was I don't remember one like that I do I do you guys how about them and it's pretty good finally got a shot they had the towels going when they finally got a shot after 97 real minutes it was there were also some some titties were whipped out in in the celebration of the streets those are some beautiful beautiful bolt-on of course meme sends that if meme says anything in his holster it's titties popping out in the streets of Montreal after a game seven win those kits made kates look like walmart kits that was basically like that was that was a dark moment for chicklets people were not happy with the interviewer Kate so we will not be interviewing everybody has their eras like we had our dark era we had our dark hour array on ice with the with a choke collar on like I don't know what to say man you know it's just like we go through our eras we're in the the the fraud squad era right now so going into this series boys um it's kind of a hard one for me based on that like I'd be happy for both teams to move on like I'd love watching this Montreal team I'm picking Buffalo I'm picking Buffalo in seven games I think it's going to be an entertaining series I think it's going to be offensive I just kind of look at at and I know I've talked about Lane Hudson but the D as a whole I like Buffalo's a little better it's close though man it's very close I guess actually I look at like tage Thompson can he overtake this series I don't based on Suzuki's first round where he got better st louis talked about every game he got a little better like it just seems like it's tage Thompson's time and you look at I think him and Caulfield the number one and two American goal scores the last two seasons but I look at his size and in the playoffs like can he outplay Caulfield based on the first round I would say yes I got Buffalo in seven I think it's going to be amazing I really it's one of those ones where I'm kind of happy no matter who wins anyone else got an opinion or a pick I got Buffalo in six you know that's obviously a little bit longer a little bit more energy spent I think that if Montreal has a chance I think that jack I has to be in the lineup and play his best hockey that we've ever seen I just mentioned the Gallagher going after Benson Slath has to like recalibrate and find what we saw like game one like yeah as you touched on it like I get why maybe he's not in the right frame of mind he got fucking reset twice in that series so let's hope the the computer's back and firing and on all cylinders by the time this series starts but I just think that that overall Buffalo is just too they're just as skilled but they're so much longer and bigger overall and and I don't I don't think that they're intimidated by Montreal speed in fact I think the Buffalo might even be faster so yeah that's that's kind of where I'm at if and also for Montreal 10 they almost have two third lines right now the way they played in the first round like DeNo is like a one of the one of the better defensive centermen when it comes to like a bottom sixth center at this point in his career so if the depth for Montreal can can really really elevate the same way we talked about it with Gary Lawless in Vegas I think that this can get extended to like seven and I mean can dober speed that good again can dober speed I mean keep in mind if he's playing that well and I know Lions been awesome and I know UPL had a great season like I give edge to Montreal in that I do oh yeah because because I actually think at some point UPL will be starting a game in this series so the do you guys agree or no I agree with you I think we're seeing four goalies in this in this series wow okay you think Fowler ends up making an appearance I think Montreal if Demodov can get going obviously like that first round was difficult for him but if all of a sudden he's able to take a step I think now DraftKings has it a complete pick them really I thought Buffalo would be favorite but I gee on the outline it's minus 110 each yep that's still the case yeah that's correct so Mer what do you got I got the Sabres in seven because I'm a Sabres guy I am worried about the goal tending we saw Dober's guy he's like go go gadget legs he just he just lays lays his legs down they're always flat the puck always like pounds on you hear the sound it goes oh oh every time it hits his pads these other guys it just like it soaks into them it slips under these I'm very scared of Dober's and and I'm kind of sick of the rookie talk on him he played 19 games last year the rule is 25 but that counts as players too so 19 as a goalie that's semantics you're not a rookie I don't want to hear all rookie goalie camp what he's never played the rookie yeah the rookie and he's never played playoff hockey guys Mergetz on his points oh man weird about these points it's a rule the rule is under 25 games you're a rookie what if you play 19 it shouldn't be the same for a goalie and a player that's like saying he's a guy's a man because he fucking grew a pube goalies play 60 games now they don't play the 82 games it should be a different it should be 15 games as a rookie goalie 25 as a player there should be a difference there this guy's played plenty I don't know I'm happy with the rookie because I don't because I know what happens we're going to start hearing about Patrick Wah wanted as a kinder I can't ride and that's why they're doing it he's not a rookie so we're not bringing that mojo around my seat did either of those guys ever play a few games the year prior no they came right out of college in junior I believe all right I'm almost positive one of them did for some reason I did too let's look it up let's look it up to prove them wrong I think I think I'm with you wit on this series don't care who wins I think either team going on is good for the game both teams have been exciting to watch but I've been riding with Montreal I got to take Montreal I think they're bottom six you guys talked about it the bottom six has to be better than buffaloes in the biggest thing for me you can Matheson Matheson and Carrick can they shut down Thompson's line like that that's the biggest question mark because I think Thompson if he's out there against the other four guys I think he'll have his way but I think if Matheson can shut him down then then that's huge for them obviously but biggest thing for me is the depth scoring if Montreal can get some of that and then Slap waking up a little bit but I got Montreal in seven boys random question here so Ken Dryden he passed in 2025 he won six Stanley Cups he only played eight seasons why did he retire so early he was he was like a genius I think he was he was on to bigger and better things in his mind like I'm pretty sure law degree law degree like politics author the guy was he was it wasn't just he wasn't one one of those guys it's like hockey hockey or nothing it was there was a lot more to his life than hockey he was an incredible person he I I read or law and the minister of families uh children and social development in Canada yeah the guy I listened shouldn't have said read the audiobook that he wrote about the 72 summit series it's unbelievable it's incredible and he's the one narrating a legend RRIP Patrick Watt did play one game this season before not a rookie not a rookie not a rookie he got a 15 he got a pretty unpacked 15 Mer was on there wait a minute training camp not a rookie um guys we're one game into Philly Carolina um so here's here's the question is this is this what we got is this just going to be a Carolina through the metro shit kicking like every other year or is Philly just totally overwhelmed and the the the game seven emotion and just trying to get quickly into a series of Carolina like they kind of had no chance and they bounce back game two or like I just said is it like all right well this is not even going to be close that was that was domination that was domination I think the fact that Philly's power play is so horrendous that they really don't aren't going to have a chance in the series because there's no way they're going to beat five on five um I think that one thing working against Philly is the fact that they've been playing playoff hockey for the last two months and it drains you and then you go through that battle of Pennsylvania it drains you and Carolina is built for this like they've with the experience that they've had the the amount of guys that they have who have been there and the way that they play it's just a lot for a young Philadelphia team and I'm not taking anything away from the Flyers before the series I said seven games because I believed in Philly and they were getting good goal tending and they're they're riding a high right now but after watching game one and seeing how brutal their power play was once again and how tired they looked I would I would probably change my mind to five games I'd be I'd be shocked if Philly won two games but hey I picked Carolina to begin with I just I hope the the lack of the lack of of rest leading into that series after such an emotional high of winning that for a young group who have been what they've been through over the last two months it's a lot and I can't fault them for it I'm not being negative towards them it's just what are you going to do I think we're going to see better from Philly for sure like the two goals it was the first goal Kate got beat out of the corner so a forward kind of loses responsibility they score the goal and then the other one Meachkov messed up on the given that two on one so I like you can kind of if you can take away those mistakes from the forward helping out defensively other than that they were pretty good I mean you got to you got to do something with the Stankhoven hall and Blake line like they've scored 10 of their 14 goals in playoff so you got to figure those guys out I think Sanheim and wrist aligning can do that but after that series against Pittsburgh I thought that first game you might get they might lay an egg but I think you're going to get a lot better from Philly and I think they're going to show up I think they're going to make it a series and I think they win this shit in seven wow okay so wow that's that's the question game two is kind of going to show me this entire every day if if if that is the same thing we see in game two like this thing this could be another Ottawa series yeah I think they got to go full scumbag yeah they the scumbag wasn't there how about this that the Hurricanes have yet to trail in this postseason they become the fourth team in Stanley Cup playoff history to go six straight games to start a postseason without trailing if they're able to pull it off in game two um yeah I the game one thing yeah it's all about game two game one that was that was Merle talking about gambling that was probably one of the biggest locks just based on like you come off a game seven at home like that you're going down to a terrarium for any other team and you had to know that that was going to be the case but we'll see in game two for people that don't know that Carolina is one of the harder buildings to play in we say it every year it's a little bit smaller it's a little it's just it makes it that much louder and more intense the ice feels smaller and then not only do they have that going they they released the beer skate with the beer skate that we're gonna get down there for one of those that was a big drop oh hey I would love to give that beer beer skate a shot I'll tell you right now it could be all over me but it is not going to be horizontal like this they're gonna fill it up with Tolskies urine for you I'm not going to drink that then I'm not going to drink that I mean I'm a part owner of these Coast Hoggly team why would they try to poison me with the GM's piss I wouldn't appreciate that but they sold so many of those that was a hell of a drop by the Hurricanes and I'll give you one more thing I'll give you a DraftKings sportsbook bet for today on this game it is Carolina to win Stank over to get a point parlay plus 113 Stanky leg is on a 12 or 13 game point streak overall he's just feeling it number so he's going with pointless yeah so that's the play of the day I I don't think enough can be said about what this kid what that line is doing like Jackson Blake like that guy's he's a lightning rod they they yeah I'm like I said I said it after last series I'm a believer you see them play and just how fucking good they are how sound they are and just how mentally they are so mentally dialed like Rod has them primed up ready to go right from when's the last time you saw them have a slow start in a play ever I don't know if it's ever happened nothing bad happens until the conference final and then this year there is not a bully coming if they get through there is not a big bad mean ass fucking hockey team coming there's another skilled team coming but it is no Panthers so yeah blubbering you think the Carolina Hurricanes have a chance at the cop I'm like yeah this year I do so by the way Jackson Blake is just starting next next year eight years 5.1 wow and then Stank over and are locked in for just over 11 million for the next eight years it's a wagon and Halsey's got the phone let's see how fill the response I like Keith I like Keith there Keith's not giving in he's not giving in but biz I think it's more of his hatred for Carolina than it is his love for Philadelphia like this is a team that took his Iron Man streak away and he's still rooting for I think Keith's scared of seeing Carolina in the Cup finals he's worried about the product is that what it is yeah yeah we don't need that and it starts to like the road teams locker room is so disgusting they made it better I thought they like improved it they gave towels to the guys you don't have to bring your own towel like it just like it's disgusting disgusting hockey and we cannot have them in the finals it's where the pig mascot lives I am just coming around on the hurricane I told you yeah well it yeah it's just no Florida I just can't get that out of my head and people are disgusted that they get to play the Metro in the first two like that's like what you see around the league like they get the Metro the first two rounds all right all right fair enough and if as if they weren't likable enough you know who they called up for a black eye black ace uh I do not know the oil the oil is coming up good jeez asking in the chat well I sound the siren I'd love to I don't think like that was a trip Tracy just throw it out there but he has no say I think I haven't heard from them I would love to do the siren I'll they let me do it for a playoff game I I assume they're gonna allow Ryan Whitney to do it I think it would be awesome if you did it I appreciate you saying Ryan Whitney like I got like a big time guy there thank you did you do gee how did they do that his wrist broke they lost five nothing I think they got blown out hey they had a bad start too I think that was their only ever bad start okay so let me ask you this wait would you rather redemption and buffalo I think that they would have you back oh yeah or would you choose the cane skate chug into the siren ring I would I would choose redemption and buffalo over that yeah I mean buffalo here's the thing though is red does redemption count if I don't bring the sword out there I think you gotta go back to the sword and you gotta practice and know how to do the you gotta get in the lab with the sword dude all right hold on yeah those kids before the game they showed us how to do it correctly yeah a video came out after but but I mean I even had videos of little kids trying to chug out of the sword like like like cranberry juice and they couldn't do it well it was buffalo might have been all right is he doing this with water for the water I'm gonna at least see yeah yeah it's like the DOS boot where you have to turn it at the right time that's what somebody else said to me that at the very right moment you have to turn the boot but there's no area where there'd be a bubble like an air bubble in this make sure you don't have your hand that's the other thing too that was that was it has to be kind of like a progressive all right it's all about your timing let's see and grab it there yes oh no oh no oh no why does he do this I think it goes back I think I I think I I think I have some sort of like blocking my brain with this fill it up again and go two handed did you never do you ever do the funnel in college on spring break oh my god looks like me after a nap so horcoff called me horcoff called me and he's like dude what was that they're thinking about kicking me off the trip to England this summer what he came with a golf trip no but I got myself back in I get it but he brought up a good point I've never ever been able to chug a beer I'm not a chugger I'm not I'm and it is that is that not a manly thing is am I am I am I am I missing am I missing like some tea in my life I don't know I can't chug beers he's like open up your god you have to open a horcoff that guy I'd put him up against anyone it's crazy but you just witnessed water there boys that is we got serious problems yeah maybe maybe you should go and you should be the one hyping up the crowd with the zero point zero does it I was gonna say that bring that guy from barstool the guy who does like he could do like do it he could chug a fucking chocolate milk yeah in like 20 seconds yeah not a bad idea he is a chug master that dutch guy I mean obviously murals will be there too murals how were you at chugging in it I'm okay I'm not I'm not as bad as Whitney obviously but it wasn't easy we met these guys before the thing that showed us the correct way to spin it kind of but I think we need wit there to do the hype to the crowd and then get like a sabers I didn't even hype them though I was doing like the Keith can you chug oh god no not even a little I don't even try I see that that's it's knowing your strengths and weaknesses but once again I put myself out there guys ridicule embarrassment or once in a while being on the right side I put myself out there and that's man in the arena shit if I if I worked for Buffalo Sabers admin I would have you and Josh Allen there to bang the drum and then then you wouldn't have to do it out of the sword you could just chug a beer yeah the two negatives will offset and become a positive that would be the way that I handled it and maybe not for game one just see how game one goes but I'm thinking game five would be the time to do it much like I did have a I did have somebody reach out from the Anaheim ducks that were like they sent me another package and they said wit we need you out here in the second round I said I don't know I don't know if I can swing out you're just you're a team come guzzler at this no I'm no what I am I'm the I'm the brick like I'm the butt of the joke though it's not like hey bring this guy in it's just like hey this loser we can all make fun of him throwing the big screen laugh at your body blue it's it's not exactly like you know Tom Brady getting paid for appearances it's like hey the big ear guy that was fucking a complete disappointment his career that's turned into a podcaster will bring that guy in tell tell him he's one of our favorite ducks ever but no he was actually a loser and traded the next deadline after he's brought in you're the body of podcasting such as like I don't appreciate that because that means that means you're talking about doing that means you are that means that Carolina you're talking about Buffalo you're talking about quack quack quack quack quack quack and quack biz you let's be honest I think you got a lot of teams in the mix too you got you got the mass for Utah then you show up with the Vegas Jersey today number of their organization and and like mine is just being I was a member of the ducks organization I know but I'm not buddy I'm not showing up and like trying to ruin their season here you got your ass banked that's veneration buffalo that's true I did all right well let's uh a bitch one more thing before we bring on all right like that one more thing before we bring on all right um they didn't even I think already needs to bring back this choke call or is what needs to happen I think I think that that thing was hopefully thrown in a fire no no burned after that game seven oh he's gonna get it not in these I don't know have you done your research we can we can address this later but it is official John Chica yeah and Matt Sundin they are running the Toronto Maple Leafs I gotta be honest as as a total outsider a Leafs hater John Chica being hired by the Toronto Maple Leafs to me I want to say they are not a serious organization exactly that's just based on like what the his past and like not being in the league now maybe maybe this guy turns it all around it's great but the the the original thought of the hiring is like what the fuck we can address this later if you if you haven't done your address right now I don't need long okay I'm out all right good I'm out I was hoping you were gonna say that I I'll just gotta say yeah it's quickly is like I would literally take a bullet for Shane Done right Shane Done was stabbed in the back and I'm out that's it love to hear that from you biz the fact that they hired this guy I think this is gonna go down in history as one of the worst hires in the history of the NHL so I don't have no opinion I have no opinion on that side of it I like I I have no ill will I just I I think that he was young I think he made a really really stupid mistake and shouldn't have even been in that situation he was in and you know when you're young and you make stupid mistakes you make stupid mistakes and I'm not gonna like I'm not gonna hang the guy you know for the rest of his life on it but I just can't I just can't I can't fucking root for him and if people are confused when John Chica took over the Phoenix Coyotes he had a true legend of that organization and one of the all-time best people in the game Shane Done willing to be there willing to be a part of it help do whatever he can he pigeon tossed him that is the backstory here I just wanted to let anyone there's a lot like I'm not gonna dive into it because there's a lot and and like people would be like oh fuck just like the way that certain things shook out and it's not just one not just two there's like multiple things and like I said I just I'm not gonna divulge them but I'm just making my just kind of just like giving you my my my kind of my situation here I'm out that's what you do and I respect the hell out of you for it crazy it's gonna be a big offseason you know what guys they say there's no ufa is available there's one big one now Paul I was gonna save this I I think what my decision is gonna be is I'm gonna go where McKenna goes okay I'm gonna hitch my wagon to McKenna now what's gonna happen is tomorrow night the Leafs are gonna somehow win this fucking lottery and then you're really in one well then I can't you're in with Gavin what they what do you mean well I'm saying well then I can't then I can't go with with where McKenna goes my my to be on I'm hoping for Vancouver which makes sense I spend my summers in DC but I would really like to see him go to Calgary I would want to go back with Calgary that's my that would be my dreams that would be my dream he's just thinking of uh what's that big thing they have that's all he's thinking he's like I'll hitch my saw my cock I'll have the red carpet trigger to stay up here the next 20 I'll be right I'll be right in the the the horse in the parade but my thing is with like who else was in the mix for this job how do how did this happen um I don't I don't know it's I I saw a tweet I saw a tweet I think it was Saravalli saying there's already been like accusations of tampering against him and I think it was announced officially now didn't he get in trouble for something in Jersey yeah he had a meeting with Bentman and everything he had to get like reinstated into the what happened was is he signed a four-year extension with the Arizona coyotes and I think yeah maybe it wasn't for crazy amounts of dull but keep in mind you're a real a young inexperienced GM and this organization who's trying to get back on their feet who maybe doesn't have the most money is giving you a four-year deal like they're they're showing confidence in you so um obviously his analytics uh company is a big component of what he brings to the table and I it it apparently New Jersey and the the bubble of their organizations I think it may be involved the New Jersey Nets yeah and maybe a Redskins I think or the the Commanders yeah three teams whatever so he asked for permission to go to like talk to them and I think it was presented to the Morillos as oh I'm just going there to exchange information and it's not to get a job so they gave him the green light okay you can go and he went talk to them and I think that he was being offered the position and came back to the coyotes and says hey uh I'm leaving I'm gonna go work with the devils and they're like well no you're not like you have a a non-compete and we just signed you to a four-year deal and he's like yeah you have like he's like fire me and they're like well no we're not firing you you're our guy we just fucking signed you to a four-year deal and this was literally right before the bubble and he refused to go to the bubble with the team that had advanced to make the bubble and then they won their first they ended up going and playing in the first round did they get swept by the Colorado Avalanche I believe yeah I think so it was the five game series right so you have a team that just gave you a four-year deal as a young the youngest GM by the is he the youngest GM in NHL history yeah yeah and then your team's ready to go fight for a playoff position and you're going into the bubble and he's like no I'm not going and then and then that it ended up kind of all ravelling out the other thing which is common knowledge was the the the what do you call it the the the the the the the testing of the draft process the reason that they created the testing was so every team had a fair chance to evaluate the combine yeah combine body composition strength you know what are we what are we looking at and a chance to interview them and talk to these kids so apparently they ended up hiring a third party and doing it to uh to players that were coming up so getting private time with them which is illegal so then when they were busted with the first one the excuse was is oh um we did it with him because he wasn't in the top prospects game and we weren't going to get a chance because he wasn't going to go to a chance to evaluate them well they they went and did it with this kid in October the team for the top prospects hadn't even been selected yet so then they got busted lying about it which apparently opened up a whole nether investigation in which they uncovered more players that they had been doing it to and obviously when you got guys like Lou Lamarillo Steve Eiserman and these other high-end GMs being like oh yeah this fucking young rookie's gonna come in and cheat and so that's why they slapped them with taking away a first second and third rounder so that's just the stuff that like is common knowledge where everybody knows and once again young guy but when sometimes when you think you're the smartest guy in the room these things end up coming out to fruition and here we go and I was I don't know how the league or or like that they ended up clearing at the fact that he can be GM with the Leafs after that being his track record but hey I'm not here to hold people to mistakes they've made in the past I'm only here to make decisions on on on what I know and stay loyal to the people that were loyal to me and that's why I'm out how if you're if you're a ufa gonna sign there how are you gonna trust a guy like that that is gonna tell you hey yeah we want you for seven years so look what he did to a guy like Shane Dones been out of the league now for what probably seven years but like his name what he did to them and a donor even knew we were even talking about he'd be like hey what are we doing here like that's in the past but like the loyalty and in like the respect that you should have for certain players needs to be there and it has been in the history of the NHL and I just don't see it with a guy like that and I don't see guys wanting to go there and play for him Steve Simmons just asked Keith Pelly in the presser I talked to 20 people in and around the NHL and 19 of the 20 said this chica hiring was a sham used words like con artist liar and salesman and Keith Pelly was rattled this is according to Pasha it's and then Frank Salavari's tweet was prior to Sunday the NHL looked at the tampering concern raised as New Bay Beliefs GM John Chica began to hire his staff the claim was up since up stance up substantiated but underlined the suspicion some counterparts have for Chica as he resurfaces so I think it's it's pretty obvious that people around the league cannot stand them and for me that's why I said not a serious organization this is the Toronto Maple Leafs dude like and all the young minds in the game that you could buddy is there I'm not and as a Leafs hater is that not the biggest job in hockey the GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs now they have sun deemed so that is at least some good will with the fans that that's why they brought him no that that to me was was the donor of Arizona and that's that that to me so that's him learning he would have kept him around donor would have been like no don't do that that's not how you handle things because I've been around for 21 years and I've seen it all and been there done that so that that is an important piece for him to have in order to be successful in my opinion so maybe he does end up going to have success because when you're doing a job like that the same reason when we had Jim Nillon he talks about the people around him it's not just the GM the GM is a as a delegator of you need strong people in every single role and when he was challenge right when he was in Arizona he had 25 year olds at his round table that had never played a game in the NHL that had never been in an NHL locker room doing helicopter cocks and piss bombs that you need that you need that you need the piss no helicopter no dough that's the game that's the game right there that's the game how do you think the players are going to react to this because that that came out that was the biggest problem in Buffalo that that GM never deserved his job and that's why the players what Kevin Adams yeah they can never get over it that that he didn't deserve that job I mean looking I mean Kevin Adams had a long an HL career like he he was he spent time doing coaching Pee Wee Hockey the year before so was yeah but so was Mark St. Louis was coaching Pee Wee Hockey like yeah but St. Louis wasn't up in Montreal hanging out with the owner the whole time but buddy I think that we could say that looking at the body of work Kevin Adams did a pretty good job like but the players didn't want to play for him because they didn't respect them I don't think the Leafs are going to want to play for this guy I think that that is an egregious if if the reason the Buffalo Sabres weren't having success was because they were like I don't want to play for Kevin Adams I think that that is maybe the I've said a lot of dumb things here I think that that's not very that's the other that's crazy well I'm telling you that's that's the inside scoop that's the scoop from her it is bizarre that they who told you that oh you can't release your sources Sabres alumni it's on the internet if you want to find it so so does he deserve no praise in in what he did to help them get to the situation they're in I disagree with that he does he does I didn't ask I just said the Leafs gonna want to play for this guy no that's why I think they have a dean around is to basically be like all right he can kind of be the face if shiq I don't know I think it puts him in a bad situation too Sundin's just the guy going up to players like this guy's a clown don't worry I get your back all right let's bring it all right let's go before I take off I got it I can I can break it now I I alluded I alluded to it I believe is the right word William Carlson will play tonight wow Gary you Gary Gary you Gary Gary's unbelievable you motherfucker you lied to me Gary I don't know if he's playing tonight Gary was the one who tweeted it he said he doesn't know if he's playing in the series Gary on Gary might be the best troll in in the NHL right now but I think he's so Vegas Golden Knights delusional I don't even think he's being a troll man I think he's one of those he's like Pasha he's like Gary Pasha for the Devils all right I'm told he's gonna play center hurdle will be on the left wing I think Smith on the right wing that drops closer out of the lineup oh that's what what they wanted hurdle hasn't scored in 40 games or something so I watch him get him going three since February all right oh my thank you so much let's talk to you my hello everybody welcome to our age world here to the spit and chickens podcast boys I've been edging like biz on one of those fucking riot days for three days waiting to shut up and get over to this stuff how about me six and two on my first round predictions Bruins home obviously lost that one I went out on a limb picked LA probably didn't think they were gonna win but I fucking wiped you boys to the mat all you guys played in the league I didn't I was six and two two are right all right what an idiot you are all right even in a moment of like having a great first round you can't even get that right you dumb motherfucker six and two I wiped all you guys and you had you tied biz wait they hard best played the NHL I didn't know that I was not was I two and six or three and five I think I was two and six I know that I would have taken one and seven one year I went eight for eight I can't well that was a different planet I was on what happened with I just like seeing RA this happy ah yeah I mean hey my team lost but like I've said a million times in the show a sports it's not life it's like when the game was over I was done what gets out of the minute I get Keith did you actually make a DOS boot reference reference a few minutes ago yeah great what's that beer league like the do you know the do you know the movie oh is that just a fucking I never saw the walk the movie beer league I never saw it is it good oh you're okay I I tell you a reference in the actual movie DOS boot the like the German submarine movie we've had a lot of submarines like this season all right so we can move right along from that G by the way thank you so much for the hookup the greatest bar uh Friday night I like I said a couple weeks ago I typically stay home or lock in for the Perlman's playoff games but one of my good pals one of my castmates on Shorzy uh Andrew plays goodly goody good leaf on the show he was in town one of his boys so I had a show him around took him to Antonio's over Beacon Hill had a fantastic dinner G VIP service we're the best heats at the greatest did you pay or was it on what was his tab G G I haven't asked yet but I was told RA treated the staff incredibly taken pictures with fans all night basically did a meet and greet on the second floor so I think he killed it right yet nothing else G no nothing about the rockets no okay oh yeah what RA was swimming in checks everywhere all around all right you're telling about that first round record weren't you all right yeah I don't know if I'm moving on to the second round in that department but no no it was awesome my buddy goody like you know I've talked about Shorzy before like I have a like minnish fuel pot on that but like it truly is a family when you when you take pot in a show like that and uh he was in town it was like it dropped everything I'm like all right let's let's get at it and now had an awesome time he brought his buddy down Chris said well he don't he don't care about his name this kid was an ony mouth like just like sat like sat it's just an absolute animal I won't fucking throw him out of the bus here and then we went out the next night I would have Fenway then I hit JJ Foley so just an awesome weekend had a great time I usually lay low I go out on the nights whatever but I had a fun weekend uh and yeah the fans you just mentioned like like I mean everywhere we go like people show the love but I don't call a lot of guys I go part in town once you know once a month maybe twice and you know I would I had friends in town so I went out a little bit this week and man the love the locals man I just like sounds corny it was my hot man just the the the fans that come up and say hello whatever and like oh geez man I would someone says they but listen since like the salty couch days I'm like hey that gets you a hug man because it's like when someone tells you you've actually listened my fucking voice voluntarily for eight to ten years man you deserve a fucking hug if not a fucking you have a very distinguished voice too people will hear a couple blocks away and be like all right oh yeah yeah so so I want to appreciate that and going back to Gary Lawler she had on a few minutes on the same vein um you know I because actually you kind of sounded like the way Gary is for Vegas you kind of sound like that but John Chaker a few minutes ago just if it was like an SAT question exact opposite you mean I don't I think he sounded like his defense lawyer for a couple minutes ago no he just quit being a fan of the Leafs I'm out on the Leafs all right well maybe maybe I tried the wrong way but either way Gary when I was going through my shit fuck no I was just thinking about the sense I thought you guys I thought like you and Keith were kind of like all over it I thought Biz sort of I don't I thought it was a little bit I think I'm no I think that I'm not gonna bash a guy on on mistakes he made but like the facts are the facts I gave you the facts and I and I I'm literally hang my childhood team I'm saying I'm no longer a fan of I'm out I'm a free agent baby all right well the fact is this that when I was going through my shit a couple years ago we all know that Gary was was one of those people who I mean I only met him at the the one the classic in Seattle and he reached out to me a couple times and you know gave me words of encouragement and very nice words so I just want to hey shadow guy he's a great whatever if you don't like his Vegas coverage who who cares but he's a great person a great human being oh his Vegas coverage is awesome I thought he was probably reaching out to you to like wish you well but you want you want to you want to jump on the Vegas train yeah I gotta text him I gotta text from Bill Foley he wants you on the Vegas train to hang out with chance that he wants a logo you came up with but they won't give you a credit for that one um what else do you got Araya what's at the top of your mind for for what happened in the first round what are you I'd like to ask you all right quickly I want to know Montreal Buffalo I want to know your pick I'm very sure you're picking that uh Buffalo and seven okay and I do have a future on Montreal but uh and well that series is unbelievable but yeah I got I think Buffalo man it seems like a lot of these guys are like peeking career wise I mean Tate Thompson's been there for a bit but like what we've seen at a bull buyer and in power and what what Josh Donah's done is fucking incredible like that what an unbelievable trade that has been uh the goal tendon I know the UPL kind of faulted a bit Lyon stepped in like he talked about before like filled the role ad real bleak yeah man Montreux is gonna be a tough out but and I financially a poem for them but yeah I think Buffalo was just kind of has that whatever Genise Qua no pun intended but I just love the old Adams division rivalry too like it's just great to have all these old teams back so uh well I was gonna keep going with the picks I guess well I threw out Philly in seven the other night I know they got dummy in the first game uh many in sixth in the same vein that was a wild fucking game uh anaheim anaheim Vegas went same point I said in the first round I could not believe that anaheim was a plus 180 uh underdog and if you know I didn't just get fucking uh no spit no lube fucking bob why a finish for my divorce I would have had a bundle on him but I couldn't fucking I couldn't spring at this time and I I can't believe Vegas is a fucking minus 210 uh over fucking anaheim plus 170 like like throw if I had a mortgage I put it on anaheim this series I think they're gonna beat fucking Vegas I think I'm getting six yeah Gary's never calling you to wish you well no but I'm sorry yeah hey I really if you might be dating your ex-wife you can have her no but but seriously like I and I said to you with like I thought that that line should have been closer to a pick them and I think we know we saw what happened and you know I was like proven right even had some some go on it yeah let's go to Buffalo uh Montreal I thought yans brought up a good point we might see four goalies in this series do you agree that there's a possibility that that can happen I think a lot a lot is gonna come down to go attending I think in that series yeah that's you three and a half would be a great line of post for that I know but saying like I don't see the dole bush coming out now but but but if he I mean but you gotta like struggles you're gonna put in the fact that like what if he yeah he has a bad game and they they gotta yank him in a blowout like which by the way Minnesota should have done the other night I don't know how they didn't pull fucking uh lost that after I think it was the seventh goal there man that was just like it was the bad the real bad one and then you know they were still in the game but either way is there a bet where you can bet that you'll see four goalies in a series um geez you'd think I would have me of all people would know that that would be like the DraftKings future prediction market yeah yeah yeah you're gonna go to like one of those fucking shady places I think but I mean I'm the same guy better than the fucking spelling bee and the Sopranos in it so you probably should know that but by the way I had uh what was it I had a girl would win plus one ten and uh the winner would have classes minus one fifteen so I had a split on that one oh anyway speaking again with dude the Derby I tweeted this out I put on my Instagram honestly that clip of the of the uh the trainer the first female trainer to everyone the Kentucky Derby watching her with you know with the the split screen with the race like I don't know if you guys have you seen it have you guys yeah I actually saw it yeah like honestly like and like not a pan room like whatever like just not even a sports just one of the most like I don't know how you can watch that video and not have like fucking like stir your emotions to watch like the emotion to finish yeah in the history like you know 120 years of the Derby that has been a woman trader and like I watched it's probably 17 times and then I looked in the comments and someone said hey look at her for a friend next to her on her right and like she she hasn't she's not you don't hear it she goes she goes get outside uh get outside Jose and she nods her head and right as she says it the the fucking jock he makes the move and you see her face light up and it's like like I get goosebumps even talking about it's like you like it's because you know you're focusing on the on the trainer and you know she's yelling as she should be but like watch her friend and she gives like that head on and right when she says it he makes this fucking move it comes on man I can't watch that video enough so if you haven't seen it it's on my yeah I saw that I didn't realize she was the trainer I just assumed she was maybe like a part owner like like Biola as well but um that they did mention that that was the route it would take in prior races so they probably knew that going in like that's the move yeah and was waiting for it and then wow that's cool man yeah man like I didn't like said I didn't notice it I mean I watched it because it's just you know just to see someone that passion and like the I mean one of the greatest derbies ever but her friends just sold nonchalant and you know she you don't even hear it she's like you could read her mouth get outside Jose it does like a head clock and like right after he moves man and then you see her face light up it's just I don't it's one of those moments of sports life whatever that just man it just thought it's just something in your man so I hope people can check that out uh Tampa Bay Montreal um you know I can get in Montreal I got going but I felt I felt for cool man I sent him a text to spawn and like you know like I my house broke from that team did everything they could like he did nothing wrong I says but you know like you you you and your boys got to be proud with just two goals one of your defense and and that fucking basically David Copperfield trick for the second one so uh you know heads held high it's just another team that they could have been a Stanley Cup fucking champion but tough sledding there so uh what else oh by the way I had a okay we got to get the Kutra off I had a fucking World War four run about Kutra off on Twitter last night all right this guy beating the booky everybody this is not personal I know this this this is just content stuff he put out Nikita Kutra off his double score to single point and seven career game sevens kind of incredible but then he brings in great regular season point merchant feels to show up in the toughest games of the mall okay definitely got triggered now I have no personal connection yeah yeah I saw your response to that where he like he's like one of the most active leaders in in playoff okay okay he's got 177 playoff points on 159 games 16 all-time playoff points per game okay and I do I I would mad enough I stayed up on like digging these stats okay 159 playoff games he's had seven game sevens that's like 4.4% so one of every 20 games he's played has been a game seven yeah he has no points in those games and those seven games Tampa Bay has scored nine goals 1.28 goals per game like okay like he's the fucking 16th lead playoff point guy of all time he led the league and playoff points two years they won the cup he didn't it wasn't like oh he hasn't done that recently he said this guy has done not for the game sevens it's like bro bitch would you agree you couldn't play your balls off in a game seven not have a point and still be a factor yeah yeah no definitely recency bias and a stupid comment I would also ask like what are his what are his points in like close out games for him for him his team right like he might have a way better point per game percentage like yeah and like it's not just one game like he put us put his team in in a position to have success in those years past did he not win one of the cons mice of those two years no I don't somehow he didn't know he led he led the league and playoff points the one year where he didn't play a regular season game no but the two years they won the cup he led he led he didn't win the cons might but his playoff stats in the last few years though are a little questionable no absolutely and this is my other point this is where like where like where it's matter and I know it's Twitter social media whatever like but you know that wasn't the point the guy made he he brought like the regular season I got a barrage like everyone's like well what's he done later it's like well bro he didn't talk about lately he said he said he doesn't get it done on the biggest games only yeah he has a point in game sevens but those are like a minstrel pot basically of his like playoff career man I think I think that's like separating the two I if you said like when I heard the stat I was shocked that he hadn't had a point in the six prior game sevens like I was just surprised I'm like oh a guy with that many points per game and playoffs so yeah you can hold it against them that he can't perform in game like offensively in game sevens but to say he's not a a playoff performer and he's just a regular season merchant that's just crazy and somebody who obviously wasn't paying attention like what like eight eight years like that eight to five year ago window yeah exactly like let's keep in mind here if it's the first time since 2019 that a Florida team is not in the stand like a final it's you know it's also like this whole like COVID cup shit stuff that you fucking your ass and like bro I don't care if there was fucking drunk fans in the room or not if you beat fucking four of the NHL teams and fucking seven game series like regardless of how many people in the room you're a fucking standing come champion like circumstances be damned like what do you say to all the people today um saying that that Tampa when they're not 20 million over the cap and the playoffs isn't the same I would say that you know they played by the rules that the NHL allowed them to play by the same thing that the Black Clocks did and I believe pit I'll pit pegmas fans hate me already but I think we're Vegas did not Vegas and Florida so I penguins yeah Vegas Florida so like you know what like bro they did what everybody else did like you could scarge any team would have done exactly they played by the rules that that was there so yeah whatever like I that that's not a I don't consider you find that a little bit of this is is um you sucking up the coop because you picked them in the first one I was saying how much is paying this guy in the chat that you went against them in the round one here bro I ain't going back to the greatest by ever again motherfucker no it's not at all though this was like totally like a coach a coach thing like literally like I like why would I like how does it be defending coach like I think oh it's just like more of a distraction yeah no no I I just was like triggered by this guy like like he he dragged it like uh cooch is regular season but no I'm like I would say this about the NBA as well like to say like I think texted coop yet yeah he listed yeah I said I texted this morning I said a little while ago yeah um and yeah he heard back like you know like what I just what I he's a buddy and you feel bad for him and whatever but uh yeah it's not I'm not doing this because it doesn't coop yeah he's gonna give me I was just kind of half fucking around and but anyway we can move on no we can't move on uh we got okay our local team the Boston fleet and the professional women's league they're tied 1-1 right now and this is I guess I'm maybe I don't know from cranky today or what but I was looking for the score Saturday night I got a text from a friend asked me if I was out the game and I saw he went to the ESPN app right I was like oh where's the PWHL score I I found TGL which is fake golf uh guys hitting into a fucking screen Savannah Benena's fake baseball gaming cricket rugby love my rug is but chess badman some sport I can't pronounce couldn't find the fucking PWHL score on the ESPN app and one Mr. Benena it's Savannah banana game I can I don't do that did seven backflips why won't you just go to the PWHL because that's that's great that's great too easy you need something to be mad about great question that's not the point Paul I of course I can do that but like I'm calling out ESPN for not having a professional woman's fucking hockey buddy they had they had the Savannah Benena's on as opposed to the NHL they punted the NHL game to a different channel they don't give a fuck about that they were offered cricket fucking chess scores bro cricket's the biggest game in the world chess chess okay don't get the biggest game in the world I think cricket is if you it's the biggest game in India I'm just fucking I'm practicing what we preach here we talk about growing the game the woman's game whatever I got friends in that fucking team and the fact that they've got fucking scores on ESPN I agree I know I can go fucking to 17 other sites to find it so fucking fuck ESPN for not having it that's all I'm this guy's Kucherov tweet sent this guy off the handle yeah I just like I don't I don't I agree they should have it I would just I would think if I wanted the scores I would just go to the PWHL website boom type it in no doi right right but but the worldwide leader in sports isn't fucking showing scores for the the only professional woman's fucking hockey and you get fucking chess scores from fucking India so that's fucking bullshit once again going to cricket it's the number two sport in the world that has 2.5 billion fans yeah no no I just knew soccer was number one you know what number one is woodball um what is it most gambles all over the world oh okay all right let's talk about something joyous ball hit me up let's do that let's do that I'm really not angry I just get fired up you know and I think I don't think there's any denying here the growth of women's even like women's sport like look at where the right the WMBA is the salaries where they've gotten to the fact that PWHL is going to have expansion coming again so yeah and I'm just going on this major conglomerate yeah ESPN wants to jump on board and make sure the the bar tabs are up there let's go show the fucking scores because uh how's the social life what have you been up to buddy I've been in my fucking hotel room or at the studio just consuming hockey that's it buddy I know same zoned in zoned in all right what else Keith what have you been up to bro not much have been the same thing just uh watching hockey enjoying these playoffs they've been a blast so far yeah they have been they have been awesome um I think I gave a f like all my picks up G by the way once again buddy thanks again for the hospitality the greatest buy I don't call that too often but it was an awesome time so uh boys I don't forget anything else I know it's been no that was a great show three hours like yeah fucking love it yeah it's been three hours holy shit yeah yeah cool yeah creeping up on it oh oh yeah actually no G just said my thoughts are the Bruins like G honestly buddy I thought you got in my fucking stash earlier you come out firing guns at plays and earlier with your your points where I could basically echo them um again this is a graveyard this is a team people thought was going to be in the gutter a lottery pick we got six games out of it I think the experience is good for the coach for the players and it's like okay this is what we need to clean up yeah we we need some top six scoring obviously the Lindholm twins yeah you know not the best signs I don't think I can move one of those guys but you got to work around that another defenseman but the future it's it's not like shining bright but you know you don't fucking blow up when you have a number one goalie a number one defenseman in a superstar like forward you don't blow the team up you try to build around on the fly it can be done we see it with other teams and hopefully the Bruins do that all right is there anything else on your mind you want to get off your chest uh you know I feel like there is boys don't you guys let's hear it you know what to it I and maybe this is probably like subconscious shit yeah I yeah you're fucking uh I could tell all right I've known you a long time I could tell when you go to mailbox when you get a mailbox and there's and you get a letter and there's not a stamp on it or return address that's not a fucking good a fucking good thing what the hell are you talking about what does that mean oh fucking no the local legal jurisdiction is look a flyer um and no no I didn't thought I had to score or not like that I'm not selling fucking shit in the side no it's are you wanted right now no I'm not no no not no one yet no no basically it's the four stuff uh and I know I was going to bring it up as a segment but I get to play offs it's fun I don't want to talk about this depression shit but um yeah man like I said earlier you know like this ain't poor go guy get bent though it's it's laws it's an agenda thing the way the laws are set up they they they fuck threatened individuals over and they can be manipulated play to to people's fucking strengths or whatever and um you know you know like my finances fucking yeah like you we have no kids we didn't like everything was 50 50 but it's like all of a sudden I gotta support a person who who can work but like can live off fucking you know my dying part of time basically uh and and fucking it's like I'd stop to make up what I have to make up and I have no money because of that particular person and like okay like now like oh you want to fucking you're you're behind you bring a court it's like well I'm behind because you fucking blew all the fucking dough now I'm giving you what I can you don't need it and it's fucking like okay you want to drag my ass to fucking court because like what you don't have enough like yeah I'm fucking you you're living off me you're living on my tit right now and like I'm getting fucking dragged back they're gonna get a lawyer again it's just fucking yeah so like honestly what I didn't wasn't even thinking about it but I guess that was bubbling underneath that like just it's just bullshit man listen like I don't people old guys used to say oh you know don't get married don't get married whatever do no false dates a fucking and again and any guy girl thing any gender they fuck you over bro but the laws with the with the I could have fucking Johnny Cochran fucking like Dershowitz and I'm fucking all those guys behind me don't matter though it's like this is what they have to do it and it's just fucking it it fucks you over I think it's an important conversation like obviously we're at the end of the episode it's RA's world by the way yeah I know if you're not okay this this can go anywhere yeah anywhere that RA wants it to go and that's what we kind of love about it I think that it's a good conversation and it's something that are our younger audience even female audience if you're making more than your significant other and you guys want to get married I would just get if protect what you think that you deserve that you're going to need and what you deserve in the end if you're getting in a relationship with someone if they have a different change of feelings like that protect protect what you think you deserve and I guess that's really the only but get a prenup and I will get a iron cloud prenup if you want to protect your money you know when I was I was I mean I was unemployed like maybe had some side gigs at the time but I was unemployed but I got mad I had no like you know this was years before chicklets it was there was there wasn't even a thought in my mind I knew we weren't having kids but and as far as like the you know no fault divorce listen uh it came about in the 70s and you know my my parents divorced young of my mother got remarried and I had a step dad and he was a great guy till he wasn't and so I I understand why the why those laws came to be you know like you know sorry you don't you don't want to worry about your mom but I know I know why those laws came but this this has nothing to do with that shit now it's like that that was for women can get out of like shitty situations but like this ain't that man like you know what like and again not women like male female it's it's a it's a fucking no protect way of marriage things and like when and someone like okay you play the long the long game okay I gotta make a fucking cent for the next couple years and so that the income disparities like this and then like I'm gonna fucking take your cleaners because these are the laws like I have you've been mad this one you have to give this X amount even though we have no kids no real estate no fucking nothing right and whatever and let's say poor what was me it's just like yeah it it becomes that because like it's just fucking it's not fucking fair man you get taken to the cleaners you feel like you took care of that person for for 10 years and you supported a grown adult and yeah and then all of a sudden that person wants to leave and it's their decision and it's like oh no not only did you support me for 10 years I'm gonna keep taking half of what you're making and not and not to mention you know the forces don't happen in a bubble or overnight and with someone for decades you know there's there's there's that aspect of it as well so it's just like yeah all right I I've been talking to you you know throughout this remember chatting about this I was driving one time I'm sorry you're going through this yeah but yeah yeah and no and like I and I've been great I like I literally I feel like who I was like even before chick was I and I even I said tell people like like even when the chick let's start it with like you know things weren't great back then even it's like so I always said like that was very 90% of who I was and I felt like who I actually am like the last year or so and uh and I don't I don't freeze this up I don't twirl on it but like I said I you know to fucking shitty fucking way to like go to your mailbox and and you know you do the right thing and it's like I don't it's just keep getting bent over yeah and like you know the laws out they lie I got a great lawyer but you know his lonely so much you could do and so I I didn't mean to I didn't mean to I just could tell back on the ducks I could tell knowing you I could tell knowing you that something was there and I and I hope you don't mind me you know saying all right get something off your chest I don't know maybe it helps you to talk about this is this is big it like let's let's be honest we have a strong male demographic right and once again this doesn't come down to sex if you're a woman listening to this and you're and you're earning you know a quarter of a million dollars a year and you have a partner who's a they're not really motivated they just kind of want to mope around just just protect yourself if you're getting into something and and because if you don't want to be let down in 15 years if they decide they want to up and leave and all of a sudden you're you're on you're on the hook for paying for shit it's it's a it's a great life advice for anybody listening who might be going through this or making a decision very soon about embarking on a journey with someone yeah it's like oh yeah think about shit obviously it's a major life decision but like you know it's whatever it like shit happens in life and like I've been saying it's not like one of my best friends one of my oldest pals like I've been friends with her since we've been diapers and like say really the same thing happened here up like way worse than my thing so like this I just want to emphasize this say like oh the voice guy bitch about whatever like no I've had I've talked to women the last people over if they're they're very easily manipulated to like to to pork someone like and so so whatever I appreciate you guys like they don't let me vent I didn't had no idea we could go this route but Whitney great recognizing that you know maybe was something bubbling underneath and I maybe had to get this off my chest hopefully maybe other people I'm not telling you like call lawyers blah blah blah but yeah just fucking shit happens man I'm down with it I love you guys we love you too buddy love you as well I appreciate you being on um yeah ducks are a ducks can you quack quack you're on the duck yeah I got a one I think I owe three quack quack and I would have had fuck it I would have had 80 to one fucking second if it wasn't for you know who to I know I know no everyone long show long she ain't getting the Tesla there it is everyone thank you for watching we'll be back Thursday thank you so much we love you all all right feel better buddy and we'll talk to you all soon love it it's going to happen again you in a world of noise and uncertainty IG is the investment platform that backs you take a reflexable stocks isa which gives you the freedom to withdraw funds anytime and replace them in the same tax year all without losing your 20 000 pounds tax free allowance and if that's not enough pay no commission on your stock shares and ETFs when you invest with IG IG trade invest progress your capital's at risk other fees may apply tax treatment depends on individual circumstances and is subject to change hello I'm here with Josie marinho and Snickers for football's rapid fire on or off your game right Josie you've got one or two opinions on football so I want you to tell me whether the following is on or off its game first up the AR host again half and half scarves off the game what about backflip celebrations off cutting holes in the back of your socks off off off the game what I hate even the ones without coughs they do the holes Snickers you are off your game when you are hungry