Hey guys, it's Peter and once again you were finding in your wait-wait feed a new episode of our sister podcast How to do everything now you might be saying I don't want this. I want Peter I've got such good news for you because in today's episode I am in it being Humiliated as of old by being asked to eat something Let's just say questionable. So enjoy this week's how to do everything and make sure if you like it go on over to their Own feed and subscribe I Hurry to help you. Hey, can I ask is there somebody there who can help me with a cooking question about lasagna? Yeah, I can help you. Okay. I'm we're making lasagna And we want to get all the ingredients right here's the trick. We're making it in the dishwasher What? So Larisse may I help you? Hi, I have a question. It's a food cooking question Is there somebody who could help me with lasagna or with the lasagna recipe question? Well, we don't do lasagna But oh, okay. We have pasta like a mustacholi reggaetoni and spaghetti Have you a wait we're gonna make this lasagna in the dishwasher? No Do you have any advice? No, no, I don't know nothing about all this No In grand appliance and TV in Chicago, Illinois Please listen carefully grand appliance. It's Colby. I can help you. Hey, we're trying to we're looking for a dishwasher We want to see which the best dishwasher that we can use to cook a lasagna The best dishwasher to cook a lasagna. Yeah, have you ever heard of this? Are you you cover it and put it in the dishwasher and hit go? Exactly right you take the noodles you put all the things down and you wrap it in three pieces of foil and Then you put it in the dishwasher you want to put it flat and apparently you have to run it for a full cycle At the end of that you have edible lasagna. I Believe it anything that hits sanitary level of like I think a hundred and sixty two degrees or something Mm-hmm, so use the sanitize to hit the sanitize if it has that because that that's a specific degree to be Recognized as an anti-satization or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, can I ask you another question? One recipe I read said you have to put detergent in it so that it will run for the full cycle. Is that true? No, no, definitely don't do that if you're gonna eat it. That's what I thought would you eat lasagna out of a dishwasher? Um, I'm from Southern, Illinois, so I probably I mean I've eaten much worse. Yeah, I'd do it I also heard you ever use cottage cheese in your lasagna. No Check that out. It's really all right next level. Okay, but yeah Would it void the warranty of the dishwasher? Do you think to make lasagna in it? No? I mean, I don't see how it would I just wouldn't tell anybody. Yeah. All right This is how to do everything I'm Ian and I'm Mike coming up how to burp But first dishwasher lasagna on our other show the other show we work on wait wait Don't tell me we recently did a story about How some people say the best way the best place to cook a steak is in your dishwasher So this got us curious. What else can you cook in your dishwasher? We looked around and we found a recipe for lasagna We're gonna make some and then we're gonna feed it to our official taste tester Peter Segel You'll know we're in the office kitchen when we start speaking in hush tones So the recipe says we need three sheets of foil Okay, so that's three sheets. We're gonna then put the lasagna I guess we want three sheets to protect it from the dishwasher Ness of all this so yeah We want to avoid contact with any of that stuff that I just assume swirls around in the dishwasher once you run I usually wash my dishes in the sink So I would be cooking those on you in the sink just running hot water over it for three and a half out two and a half hours Whatever it takes That was really good sound thanks. I always feel like Audio is is the best medium for cooking demonstrations sound base Was it you who said sound is the most visual medium? I what I said was as Mike said sound is the most visual medium and I was quoting you I think go all the way to the edge rain I'm just gonna spread this out over the noodles It's interesting right because usually you try to get the food off your plates before it goes in the dishwasher But now we're we want as much food as possible on the dishwasher so that the most food comes out Yeah, instead of scraping our food into the garbage before we put it in the dishwasher. We're scraping our food I'm using the food to create garbage which we're gonna feed to Peter. Yeah, so I brought these herbs I'm just gonna put some on here sure. I think anything to mask the Centuries of tide pots that have gone through the dishwasher. I think we want a lot of garlic Okay, I'm a sprinkle on this is just some dried basil. Now you can do whatever kind of Italian spices you want I Like these three so this this seem this is flavor blasted lasagna So we're right now we're folding it all up Around the lasagna to make sure we get a good seal. Oh, you're gonna kind of roll it up Do you want to get is you want to get all the? Outside yeah, all right, so then I'm gonna roll this this feels good to me this feels like we've accounted for any potential Water access points we may not be right. We may discover that there were some that we forgot. It's like it's a little bit cooking It's a little bit dishwashing. It's a little bit origami. Yeah, that's right. It's a little bit ending a friendship closing it up I'm gonna leave the detergent Capsule empty. Okay, no detergent Okay, so we're gonna put it on Sanitized that gets us our highest heat. Okay, there's a button that says extra shine. Should we want? Yeah, why not? Okay? Wait, there is a button here that says al dente Okay, we're gonna fast forward here. Yeah, we're not gonna sit here for two and a half hours while the lasagna washes Yeah, but if you want to get a feel for what we're doing just go ahead and stare at your dishwasher For the next two and a half hours if you don't have a dishwasher You can also set your refrigerator any appliance just make sure a microwave not to break eye contact with the appliance for two and a half The full cycle All right, here we go we're gonna open the dishwasher I can still the door is still hot oh Boy Luminum foil has changed color it really has right dulled It got stiff did it get heavier? Okay, I think it got heavier Okay, we put the lasagna on a plate We are running it into the studio where Peter Segel is waiting and he has no idea what we're about to feed him It looks like a normal not very good lasagna. All right Peter. You're here. I am So what do you what do you see before you I see before me what I would have to say looks like Maybe a a a one or two layer lasagna. That is what I would describe it as yeah, that's what it is Yeah, that's less. It's lasagna. I'm rotating it slowly. Yeah, I'm seeing now as we rotate I see the lasagna noodle I see yeah, I see anything seem unusual about it Does any well all right? I'm gonna give you an honest answer as I I'm rotating in a manner of like a diamond and like a commercial It's like slowly spinning Nothing per se. Okay, go ahead and cut into it right get yourself a piece before I do this and I'm gonna do it no matter How you answer this but I just want to be prepared well anything scream in the lasagna in the lasagna not you Yes, so I'm just like there's no living creature in here. Everything is everything everything should be okay. Everything should be okay Okay, I just want to say That when Ian asked me to come in today and do this he said come hungry All right All right, I am chewing it as the audience may hear and It doesn't taste good, but kind of a humid You know a little it's a little soggy maybe Yeah, it's it kind of a little Rumi a humid lasagna that makes sense Just like I mean let me do this way if I if I were served this perhaps in a restaurant I might push it slowly away Oh, and then do the thing where you cut it and so it looks like you've eaten it So I don't want to send the server you wouldn't send it back That entirely depends on what you tell me Nothing there is I mean there could be depending on what you say there could be I could send back I could stop out I could sue them depending on what you know, we'll take effect for another five minutes All right, well Peter let me tell you we made it not in an oven but in the dishwasher ah ah Let me ask you In I'm what did what did was it just was it just sitting there like so that's why it feels wet Oh, it was wrapped it was wrapped in multiple layers of aluminum foil well, and then like fold it over and sealed I want to have it but do you want to have a bite? I will have a bite. Yeah Let me just bring up Google translate because I think it's worth knowing What this dish would be called? in Italian The lasagna de something what dishwasher. Oh it actually see the Italian name Lasagna de la la vastoville you eat that you'd say if somebody came out and said yeah with that accent if that guy Said on our special today You'd be like aren't we lucky honey that we have come in when they're the special today is the Lasagna de la la vastoville. Yeah, so now what part of the cow is the la last of you? Peter Five-star rating. What do you really give this? It's I with all apologies to both you the dishwasher and the Google translate AI voice It's not good. Yeah, you know, it's not inedible if I was very very hungry And I didn't want to offend the person who gave it to me. Okay prove it We want to remind you if you have a question or something you need help with send it to us send us your questions at how to at NPR.org you can also if you have an idea for something we can feed to Peter You can also send that to how to at NPR.org don't send the food itself No as an attachment, but maybe just suggest the food and words and we will make it in a dishwasher Whatever it is send it to us at how to at NPR.org Hey, if you'll remember an episode ago We offered to be your out-of-office email contact bearing in mind We don't know how to do anything But you can put this out-of-office message which we'll put once again in our show notes for you put that in your email And if anybody reaches out to us, we'll try and help them and we've actually been getting some of these out-of-office emails one of them came from Amanda the subject of the email was request for final case counts from August 29th 2025 So let's do it. Let's call her up and see if we can help her out I don't think we're gonna be able to I don't even yeah, we don't we will not have those case counts Hey Amanda, it's Mike and Ian calling we got your email From an out-of-office forward you were looking for the final case counts from August 29th. Does that ring a bell? And where are you calling from? I'm afraid I have no idea I Can I can read you the email if you want if that helps? Yes, I guess it would help me Thank you. Okay, so what you wrote was hello I'm currently working on the invoice for bottling that was done on 829 2025 It looks like we still do not have your case counts. Please send me your final case counts So I may adjust your invoice correctly. Thank you Amanda the bottlemeister. Oh I Think it was from Is that a good Do you work with them a lot? We do and then they did I did contact someone else and they gave me the correct email Okay, yeah Hopefully it said in the out-of-office message that Mike and I don't don't actually know anything. We just were offering to help Yes, I remember now Yes, so when I spoke with her she gave me a different one Oh Interesting, okay, so they got back in the office then and then they relieved us of our duties. Yes From my understanding you guys are off the hook Okay, can I ask what what kind of business do you do? You're are you what are you bottling? It's a wine. Oh So they made wine and then you put it in bottles for them. We sure do what um, what kind of wine was was it any good? That I do not know Well, thanks Amanda, thank you and I appreciate the follow through So it's working we're not we are not working but the system is working Yep, we also got one from Amanda McLaughlin. So she's responding to an out-of-office for for Lauren How do I shop for a used car in 2025? That's a good question. I will say my car that I currently have is At this moment at the mechanic and they discovered that rodents had been eating the engine Are you serious? So Amanda? I'd be happy to sell you my used car Just send us your best offer for a 2021 Subaru Crosstrek with an engine compartment filled with rats Oh, and just send your best offer to how2andnpr.org And again, everybody out there put us as your out-of-office Email contact and we will do our best to help. We'll do our best Hey JP, what can we help you with? So my question centers around the fact that I Oddly enough can't burp So I've wondered for years now if it's how to burp like if it's something that's Could be taught or if it's just something for me that I'm not able to do or or what the what's going on there Hey, have you ever burped? So what I what happens when I have like post food or a soda or something like that I Might have like what I described as like gurgling noises that I feel like okay feeling like for what would be a burp Yeah, I think I've heard that before could we could we ask you to demonstrate the gurgling noise as best you can? I wish I could like it's not a sound I can really recreate because it comes from like my chest So it sounds maybe like this is it's not like the it's not that you never learned how to burp It's just that you physically can't do it Yeah, exactly and is this is it is it emotional? Do you do you feel left out of the burping world? Oh, yeah for sure because I feel like I get indigestion I have the feeling of what I would think would be like the necessity to burp, but it just doesn't I Just want to say that about 20 seconds ago. I just burped I Really did and I wonder if it was like a sympathetic burp. Oh, right like a young have you burped at all? I Right, I think it would be rude Personally, I think it would be rude to do it at all in this professional setting But also in front of JP who isn't longing I know to do what you just did willy-nilly as if nothing And then I just want to apologize to both of you for doing something that is rude, but then specifically to JP For kind of showing off. I appreciate the empathy Yeah, can I so we we're gonna we're gonna do our best to get to the bottom of this hopefully solve this problem for you Can I ask you a favor? Sure next time you feel this this sound this froggy sound coming on could you call our Do we have a voicemail Hina? Could yeah, we have a voicemail and just do the sound into the phone Totally Okay, well we're gonna we're gonna see what we can do here JP and we're our goal is to get you burping as quickly as possible I appreciate that. Okay, so JP did send us a voice memo. Let's listen to it I don't There's no journalistic reason to do this, but I would I would like to listen to that again. Let's play it one more time And that's pretty good Let's slow it down also Hina can you put a little beat under that? Oh All right, we have somebody on the line who hopefully can help JP Dr. Michael Lerner is an ear nose and throat doctor with Yale Medicine. So Michael, what do you have for us? so I'll start by by saying that What I'm about to say is not a substitute from you know medical advice for JP specifically sure but as far as if someone came to me and Said that they can't burp or were unable to ever burp. You're not alone. You know that that kind of Description wasn't traditionally considered like a symptom if you go to the doctor and say I can't burp Yeah, you know in the past folks would have said okay, that's not a thing But it turns out that it is a thing and only in 2019 so so not too long ago a Condition was described In which people couldn't burp and does does it does this have a name this condition? So it's called Colloquially or by you know by patients No burp syndrome. Okay, so the name really is easy to understand that the medical terminology obviously can get a little jargony But it's called retrograde Chrycopherin gist dysfunction. Oh the chrycopherin just muscle is really the valve or the sinker on top of the our soft I guess or a soft a gy so basically it's supposed to relax to vent air that's building up in our Stomachs or digestive tract so When it doesn't do that that recirculating air can make some unusual Sometimes socially awkward noises as it's trying to get out and then that trapped air can lead to lead to really uncomfortable You know bloating actually in the end so the swelling in the belly. Oh wow So is there what's the is there anything you can do about it? Yeah, there is and it's it's become you know A major focus of what I do is something I'm really happy to treat because the treatment described in 2019 was Botox into that muscle and so apparently in this 2019 study by a Dr. Bastion in the in the Chicago area actually, you know injecting Botox into that muscle the cryopharynx muscle and 80 to 90 percent of people afterwards could burp and 80 to 90 percent of people after the Botox goes away They've actually are they're able to learn or relearn how to burp in the first place And so to get this durable resolution for reasons we don't yet fully understand. I'm curious about I mean if you've gone your whole life and you've never experienced a burp Doing it for the first time How do people describe that experience and do they have to sort of learn how to do it? Yeah, yeah, so, you know, we've had somewhere Botox is onset of action is three days and so I've seen somewhere we timed in it's like gonna be on their birthday So it'll be like their birthday. Wow. I have most patients tend to be You know female in their 20s and 30s and and so it's not on time in those time We like I'm burping like a frat guy like it can be a lot beginning But it all settles out over time as the Botox wears off Did you did you just say though their burp day? I yeah, that's that's um the first time they burp you do these I do these treatments and a Lot of folks ask me like should I go back to work right away? Am I gonna be you know burping in front of people involuntarily and and the truth is you know For folks who've never burped before and they have the Botox on board. They'll go to yawn I guess what? You know they might you know like they didn't know that was gonna happen right and yeah But when we when we yawn what's happening is we don't you know I don't think about it in medical or anatomical terms, but our voice box is going down. It's dropping low the idea is that we're you know Unlocking this block With the Botox but now as the floodgates are open the other muscles have to take in and figure out where to put the gas and the brakes on Have you have you heard from anybody who's gone through this and has gotten I mean not necessarily in trouble But has found themselves in a situation where they have Burped and then it has caused them awkwardness or they like they regret it um no no, but I'll admit that I was Reading a column in one of the local papers about work etiquette and There was mentioned someone someone was writing in about my cubicle mate was burping all day long And I don't know if I should talk to them about it and I was thinking I hope that is my patient like Well that does it for this week show what'd you learn Ian? Well, I learned there are any number of foods you can cook in the dishwasher Yeah, we did lasagna, but we also we found a recipe for ribs Yeah, we were very close to trying the ribs instead of the lasagna based on this experience with the lasagna What would you make like if you were in charge of making dinner for your family? Like tonight, what would you make? I think a soup would be interesting Put all the ingredients in the top rack Yeah, put a bowl on the bottom rack let all the hot water do all the things that boiling water does in soup Yeah, and then it would all just settle in the bowl and just pop it right out If that were a thing that you could do it would make sense for tide then to make Tide seasoning pods where you just instead of soap. It's just herbs and spices so that when it's washing It's just swirling those things around your your raw ingredients. It's very smart I mean is it cooking right if it's all pre-packaged, but yeah, well, I think these tide seasoning pods This could be our path to financial independence. It's a new meal prep kit from tide How to do everything is produced by Hina Shravastava with technical direction from Lorna White if you have any questions or anything you want us to do for you Send us an email at how to at npr.org I'm Ian and I'm Mike. Thanks You
