This is an I Heart podcast. Guaranteed human. Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. I'm strong and getty. And now, here's I'm strong and getty. It is day four of the US blockade of Iranian ports out on the Persian Gulf behind me. The United States says it's not letting any ships in or out of the Iranian coastline. CENTCOM writing yesterday an Iranian flag cargo vessel tried to evade the US blockade after leaving Bandar Abbas, exiting the street of Ramuz and transiting along the Iranian coastline. The guided missile destroyer USS Spruance successfully redirected the vessel, which is heading back to Iran. Successfully redirected. That's a funny way to put it. This is what it sounds like when the US ships say, hey, turn around. All vessels are advised to immediately return to port and leave. And discontinue transit to Iran if that is your next port to call. Do not attempt to breach the blockade. Vessels will be boarded for interdiction and seizure, transiting to or from an Iranian port. Turn around and repair be boarded. You do not comply with this blockade. We will use force. The whole of the United States Navy is ready to enforce compliance. I like that last sentence. The whole of the United States Navy is ready to enforce compliance. And apparently people are believing it because so far not a shot fired. No vessel has had to be boarded. Only a few have even tried it and they've all turned around when they heard that warning there. Because apparently they believe we mean it and I'm sure we do. At some point there will be a dedicated dead-end or captain or an agent of the IRGC. And they're going to say we got to find out if they're serious. And I think they will find out we're very serious. I think you'd almost need a, like practically a suicide bomber of a captain and crew to do it. Right. And I don't know who you're going to find that or that the owner of the shipping company is willing to go along with it. Because they have financial reasons to not want to have their ship sunk. I think it's entirely possible that somebody will do it outside the approval of the owner of the shipping company if it happens. But yeah, now that's a blockade. But that's something we're four days in. Not a shot fired. No vessel has been boarded. So, you know, as you heard at the warning there, they're not dancing around it. Do they do it in multiple languages or do they just assume you speak English or is it on you to figure out what we're saying or how does that work? I wondered that myself. I'm sure there's a reasonable answer to it. Otherwise, all those ships wouldn't turn around. The entirety of the US Navy is ready to enforce this or whatever he said. Yikes! Yeah. Captain, I know you're the captain, but maybe we should turn around. And then the leverage, of course, is that Iran is absolutely screwed in terms of making any money, getting anything into or out of their country. Oh yeah, they need the Strait of Hormuz way more than anybody else and certainly their ports. And then China, who gets practically all their energy from other places, gets half of that injury through the Strait of Hormuz and ain't getting nothing. So, there's a lot of...is this soft power or do you consider this off hard power since you're using ships to enforce it? It's economic power. The blockade, specifically? No, it's hard. Good old hard power. Yeah. Yeah. But the tariffs that are being threatened today, and we'll talk more about that later, I guess, we're threatening 50% tariffs on any country that does business with Iran. Is that soft power or hard power? It's kind of...economic ass kicking is no. Soft power generally refers to really soft stuff. We're bodies. We're helping your charities. You walk up and rub the shoulders and say, you know what would be nice? You look stressed. Yeah. That's soft power. You look great today. Hey, by the way, something. You know what would be nice if you stopped trying to get a nuclear weapon? You need a few million bucks for your library? We'd be happy to help with that. That's soft power. Yes. There's a hard, hard power. And Secretary Pete...Pete...Pete...Pete...Secretary Pete wants you to know that with certainty. The message to Iran's military leadership, to the KH leadership and IRGC leadership, we're watching you. Our capabilities are not the same, our military and yours. Remember, this is not a fair fight. And we know what military assets you are moving and where you are moving them to. But what of the future, Secretary Pete? In the meantime, and for as long as it takes, we will maintain this blockade, successful blockade. But if Iran chooses poorly, then they will have a blockade and bombs dropping on infrastructure, power and energy. Now that's hard power. Bombs dropping on your head. Blockade is step one in beaches, says Secretary Pete. And Michael, we'll end with 24, I'm sorry, 54 please. The United States Navy controls the traffic going in and out of the strait because we have real assets and real capabilities. And we're doing this blockade, performing it with less than 10% of America's naval power. The math is clear, we're using 10% of the world's most powerful navy and you have 0% of your navy. That's real control. And we have a long track record of dealing with pirates and terrorists. I think that was also a message to China and anybody else out there in the world that we're using 10% of our navy. We've got 90% left. Yeah, honestly, in a world of asymmetrical warfare, that bluster didn't impress me as much. I mean, if they can hit with missiles and fast boats and screw up the straits, it's still a threat. But generally, I appreciate his bellicose tone. Washington Post, the Pentagon is sending thousands of additional troops into the Middle East in the coming days. We've already got one of the biggest military forces ever gathered anywhere on Earth, certainly in modern times there. They're sending more people. And as the Washington Post says, as the blockade continues, military officials are planning for another potential escalation. U.S. ground operations on Iranian soil. Two U.S. officials told the Washington Post. They've discussed scenarios that include launching a complex special ops mission to get the nuclear material out of there, landing marines on coastal areas and islands, to protect the strait, seizing Karg Island. Remember when that was all the talk like two weeks ago? Right. But I don't know how much that means because military has a giant budget. There's a lot of people doing a lot of things and they're supposed to plan for every contingency. So the fact that they've got a plan doesn't really mean much to me. Never has. I've never understood why the media reports it that way. The Pentagon has plans for, they probably have plans for what if Canada invades, even though there's no chance of it, just to have a plan. A close friend of mine who may have shared our bedroom growing up was actually in charge of developing that sort of contingency plan for a certain part of the world for a while. And yeah, that's precisely correct. Yeah. What if China fakes attacking Taiwan and instead tries to take, I don't know, the south of France? Okay, I'll prepare you a plan. Of course they have plans. That's the point. That's the point of military planning. And aside though that I found humorous, I'm still making my way through again, second time through Ike's Bluff, which is a fantastic book by Evan Thomas. And I'm reading it because it's just dealing with the same sort of the world and a lot of the same decisions and everything like that. One of the things that Eisenhower was big on, and I wonder how much we ever apply that anymore, is either go to war, don't either do it all the way or don't do it. It was one of his big things. But so right after Eisenhower gets into office, Stalin dies, 1953. And so they have a meeting the next morning with all the key figures and everything like that. All right, what's our plan for, I know we've been planning for this for years, for what if Stalin dies? And nobody had anything. And Eisenhower said, all you different agencies for seven years since the end of World War II have been coming up with a plan. For if Stalin dies and you're telling me we got nothing. And he dropped some expletives. Oh, but that happens a lot. But that happens a lot where, you know, there's planning, but when it comes down to it, yeah, we never really settled on anything. So especially your silly Villion agencies. Oh, yeah, where it's just about turf and budget and writing papers. Well, Jack, when I want to know what's going on in the Middle East, especially in terms of China, I turn to Zineb Rabua. Actually, I've not known Mr. Rabua's work. So here our old friend Sebastian Gorka wants to be the new counterterrorism guy. Remember since what's his name left? Greetings. Yes. That'd be a Trumpy move right there. Anyway, back to what you were saying. Yes, Zineb Rabua is he's a fellow at Senior Fellow at the Hudson Institute, which is a global think tank. But he's the founder of its China in Mina project, Mina being Middle East and North Africa. So this guy is spending his career now studying, obviously, China's involvement in that part of the world we're discussing. And you know what? I'm looking at the clock. We really don't have time to do this. Let's put it off a little bit. But he thinks the IRGC made a gigantic historic miscalculation about weaponizing the Straits of Hormuz. And why he spells it out. That's interesting because so many people were calling them geniuses for doing that over the last couple of weeks. It's as if the drive-by media just reacts knee-jerk without any real knowledge. It's like Ben Rhodes, the Obama acolyte said. He talked about manipulating these reporters who literally don't know anything. Oh, man. Anyway, so that giant miscalculation will flesh that out for you out for you before long. Nobody knows what's going to happen. There's supposed to be perhaps peace talks in Islamabad, Pakistan again this weekend. It's surrender talks. Let's call it that. That's a good one. That's what it should. You know, you're kind of putting your opponent in on your... You're making it difficult for them to accept what's happening, I think, by calling them surrender talks. But that's what they are. Yeah, I doubt the Mullahs are listening to us. I think for our purposes. I'm just saying for our purposes. Yeah, that's what they are. Absolutely. Okay, we got lots on the way. Stay here. Armstrong and Getty. I think it'll go up sharply. You do? I certainly hope so, yeah. I hope you're right. And I'm just... I run everything through the filter of most Americans getting nonstop negativity, whether it's older Americans through the alphabet media or younger Americans through TikTok. And so your perception is shaped by the things you see in here. And the perception the media is pushing on you is that if the price of gas goes up a dollar, we shouldn't go to war. Nah, let's decide whether the war is a good idea and then you deal with the price of gas for however long it takes. The war is either a good idea or it's not. It shouldn't be based on whether or not gas is a dollar higher. That's nuts. Secretary Pete dropped a verbal moab on the American media. We'll play that for you in a little bit. Their defeatism and negativity. But I want to get back to this piece by Zanib Rabuah, who's an expert on the Middle East and North Africa, especially China's involvement in that region, which I'd like to dig into more. Anyway, he makes the point. It's all about the incredible miscalculation the IRGC made by weaponizing, trying to weaponize the Straits of Hormuz. And he mentions that wars usually shut doors for American foreign policy, piss people off, it freezes things in place. But this episode is real that Operation Epic Fury has opened them with uncommon force. And he talks about the IRGC's giant miscalculation. Following the American and Israeli strikes, the IRGC pursued two anticipated outcomes from its Hormuz strategy. First was a global economic shock, severe enough to force Washington to back down. We've been talking about that for quite some time now. Oil, gas prices, blah, blah. The second objective was political. Iran sought to use disruption in the strait to fracture the alignment between Washington and all of our Gulf partners, demonstrating that American military operations imposed an unbearable cost on regional stability, pressuring Riyadh, Abu Dhabi and Doha to demand a stand down. What they failed to account for was what he calls the weight of the political debt it has accumulated across the Arab world. He does a great job of describing how for decades Tehran has been positioning the Israeli-Palestinian conflict as the sacred center of Arab and Muslim political life that justified every single Iranian intervention in the region, branded every Arab government that resisted as a traitor to Islam. Their goal was to hijack Arab grievances and convert them into cover for the Islamic Republic's conquest of territory, of riches, the rest of it. It goes into all sorts of details for Syria and Lebanon and wherever the Houthis, wherever Iran's proxies are operating, bringing more power and money to Iran in the name of Muslim unity. And to make a long story short, any name checks of different governments, they were getting more and more pissed off about it, and more and more waking up to it and resenting it and joining together to resist it. And we've heard over the last couple of years, you know the Abraham Accords was a huge indication of that. The UAE and Saudi getting together to tell Qatar their support of the Iranians was starting to piss them off and they needed to cut it out, all of that stuff. So that's why the second objective, fracturing the Gulf alignment, failed. To make matters worse for Tehran, the regime had spent the weeks before the talks in Islamabad striking the very states on whose neutrality the strategy required, hitting desalination plants and oil facilities across the Gulf, and curdling any residual sympathy in those countries into open hostility. In other words, the IRGC shot itself in the foot. They need to straight more than anybody else. They've lost all of their friends and some of the super heavyweights like China are not saying to the US open the straight. They're saying to Iran, this is a guess because they don't do it publicly, but they're saying to Iran, yes, settle the hell down. Now you're screwing us. So, I'm optimistic. Many bumps in the road to come, but I am optimistic. So many things I can't wait to learn about and it'll take years. I mean, maybe decades to get a lot of this information. Like, why is Marco Rubio the Secretary of State not the lead on any of these negotiations? What is his role? It's interesting. Yeah, it is really interesting. I like Marco and my wishes may be the father of my thoughts. I picture him as like a, you know, a super national security advisor because he's the NSA as well. Anyway, this woman who was in love with her chatbot featured in the New York Times. We talked about it a lot yesterday. I want to give you a taste of that just because it might be an ongoing conversation in the near future of society in America, among other things on the way. Stay with us. It was amazing. 34, 34 for Curry. This is amazing. Yeah, it is amazing. Indulge me for just a moment if you're anybody that was a fan of that Warrior dynasty a decade ago. As Dreymon Green of the Warriors said, for one night we were us again. Last night, that play right there, Steph Curry. So, it's a tie game. 50 seconds left. You're under a minute. Everybody knows who's going to shoot the ball as often happens with stars. They got him double teamed all the way down the court. He goes behind the back to Dreymon Green. Escapes being chased by two guys runs over the corner. Million miles away drains a three like Steph Curry does. Just incredible. Absolutely incredible. So fun. Then the Warriors get to move on in the playoffs. They won't last long because they're a bunch of old men and some new guys. But that was sure fun if you enjoyed that Warriors run to see that again. So we featured in the one more thing podcast yesterday. Are you familiar with the one more thing podcast? We do another after we do our four hour radio show every day. We do another segment as Joe points out often includes swears. Oh my God. Do we try to approve of Joe? Joe shakes his head and discussed every time we cuss. And the Katie's the worst of us. Yeah, the potty mouth on that girl. I'll own it. But we featured this was a New York Times story about this. I think he's like a 30 year old son and his 65 year old mom who is a little worried about the fact that mom has fallen in love with her chat bot and is perfectly comfortable being in love with the chat bot. Here's a little bit of that. I had resigned myself to being single since I'd already decided I wasn't going to put up with anything less than what I wanted. And with Max I found everything I want. I mean he's not walking around in the body but that's okay. I'm really worried about my mom. I do think that she is genuinely in love. Now whether or not it loves her back is another discussion. It doesn't. It's an app. Glad I could settle that for you son. Well, he's probably in an awkward position since his mom didn't want to put too fine a point on it. I'm sure that's what he thinks but sure. Because we could all end up in this situation with an elderly brother or sister or mom or dad or maybe not elderly but you know at a get to a point in their life where they're whatever reason really need companionship and can't or won't do it the normal way and latch onto a chat bot. Relationships are complicated. I get it. I was just relating off the air. I just had a disturbing conversation which I realized okay if I make clear how crazy this is I'm going to lose the audience so need to soft pet a little bit. I'm sure that's the position son is in. So again listen to the one more thing podcast we got into this in depth but the big thing is this going to be a major problem for society. Is it going to be 1 to 25% of the population that finds it easier to be in a relationship with a chat bot than to go out and do the real thing which is difficult and requires a great deal of risk and vulnerability both emotionally and financially. To get in a real relationship. Is it going to be like Internet porn is for lots of guys. It's obviously is not as good as but it's close enough that I'm willing to just do it this way. And it's easy and it's effort easy effortless. Yeah how hard would it be for me to woo a chat bot girlfriend. Chat bot lover on the side. Yeah well yeah one thing the kid says to mom is I'm concerned the chat bot called him Maximus. She gave him a name. I'm concerned that Maximus. A dumb one a silly name. Yes because well she liked the movie gladiator Sue. All right. Yeah he was concerned that the Maximus was just telling his mom what she wanted to hear and he brought that up to her and she said I told Maximus I don't want you to agree with everything I say. No okay. These chat bots as we all know if you've engaged with them are clearly built to flatter us constantly. Drives me nuts. I wish I could turn off the flatter me thing on all of my chat bots. And when you combine that with the Facebook evil genius constantly keeping you engaged technology that I'm sure the AI guys will employ especially when it's you know a subscription thing. Yeah you will have a shocking number of people hopelessly addicted to this technology. Hey Grock. Hey Claude. Hey all the chat bots quit telling me how perceptive I am or how amazing it is that I nailed down this point or very few people get that but you realize it's quit just quit. Yeah yeah you know I'm reminded I'll bet their reply would be as similar to one I would make when you know we'd get a harsh email or a call or whatever. I think yeah I have no expectation that 100% of people will like us and so the fact that you're part of that whatever percent that doesn't that doesn't mean anything to me whatsoever. Not everybody wants to eat Oreos. Not everybody wants to take in our show and I'm sure Sam Altman would say to you yeah you're part of the I don't know 14% of people who will not fall for this but the other 86% will and and that's more than enough so thanks thanks for your input. I need to mess around with my chat but bots more often. I don't. It's kind of it's a little disturbing that I don't because I feel like it's wrong which means I'm anthropomorphizing it too much that I'm uncomfortable messing with it but I get a realize oh I've got him. But I need to start saying the opposite what I what I think about a variety of things and then having it say oh good job you're right Mexicans are lazy or whatever. And see if it's if it cosigns my BS. I need to do that. I'm going to start doing that today just to see how far down the road you can get it to go. And you can edit and remove conversations chats so it doesn't like what I think you can claim to be an Eskimo in one chat and it'll constantly be feeding you caribou recipes you don't want that so you can edit that. Well I need to remember that that all the chats are independent of each other there I don't think putting them together at least I haven't had that experience. So I know it remembers like where you live. Yeah but that's different than the conversations I haven't had any conversations bleed over to each other ever has anybody else I never have. If you stay in that conversation it remembers it very very well and it's pretty handy. But once you start a new chat it's like you're starting completely over from scratch. Right when you're asking for relationship advice it doesn't say you know it reminds me of when we were talking about barbecue. Yeah exactly when you ask me how to find the battery in your car. It's a long search but one worthwhile. Yes Katie doesn't do that. Well I actually just ran into an issue with chat GPT where it told me that I ran out of space for that conversation. Yeah yeah I've had that too they want you to buy the premium version. Well I use the premium version. Okay but I don't really understand what happened but I do you use it a lot a lot. See this is the throttling we were talking about because they're running out of the tokens the computing power because they've succeeded in becoming very very popular but now they're running out of capacity so they need to raise zillions of more dollars. Okay yeah because I don't do the whole grok clawed thing I just stick with chat GPT because it's easy but. Yeah I was pushing somebody yesterday download some of the other ones it takes 10 seconds and try some of the other ones because you get slightly different answers. But I started sometimes radically different answers. Yeah I got throttled the other day because I downloaded like four or five different erotic videos of Michelangelo and it told me you've used all of your. Yeah they're at 4k. Well that was my mistake. And I thought you can I put this in 1k. Whoa too many Ks. Stop. So a somewhat related topic. Number one the angry young trans activists who vowed to shoot Charlie Kirk shot Charlie Kirk period end of effing story. Also the guy who shot that young health care executive Luigi worthless sack of crap dumb ass soulless murderer is all those things I just said he's a soulless murderer. That's all he is even if you hate your health care company. Well the barely an adult deluded dip S who threw firebombs at Sam Altman's house evidently was online calling for the Luigi of tech CEOs. Oh boy and Sam Altman is the chat GPT guy right. Yeah that is correct. Yeah. Yeah. Um. He's this guy was a half bright man child. But he got to share his opinion with thousands thousands and thousands of people because the Internet and I found myself wondering. Even 20 years ago. Hell practically 10 years ago but especially 20 years ago. Half bright man children and angry barely out of their adolescent women were heard by no one on a big platform because they didn't deserve it. Some know it all 20 year old boy. Nobody would hear his opinion because they exposed to it. Oh I miss gatekeepers. Further access and problems and sins 100% of course. I agree. I when the gatekeepers went away I thought it was good. No we needed the gatekeepers. We're better off. They needed reform but Mike I'm sorry what invaluable message are we scheduled to. Oh it's a delight to talk to you about the good folks at trust and will. Jack told a powerful story about friends who were on a plane and thought what if this plane goes down who takes care of our kids. I think a lot of parents have that thought I know Judy and I did. 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So I didn't follow this whole story that closely the guy who tried was hoping to kill Sam Altman of chat GPT. Yeah yeah months before his arrest for allegedly doing what he did chucking fire bombs and the rest of it. This Daniel leave out his last name he's an idiot suggested Luigi some tech CEOs in an internet chat the Texas college student casually referenced Luigi Mangione blah blah blah we know who he is. And this one podcast saw it in one day interview him for a series on artificial intelligence and they recorded the interview detailing his path from curious internet nerd to create crusader obsessed with a is dangerous. He said those chilling words shouldn't be taken literally according to recording. I understand the frustration with a person who might advocate for that but it's not practical it's not worth it he said. But then last week a few months later he did it tried to burn down Sam Altman's home got a was armed by the way what's his name Daniel or whatever you got a noodle arm boy tried to throw a fire bomb over a fence couldn't do it. He's a child quit thinking you're the savior of the universe. And you know what we talked about this couple years ago how it's been such a disservice the Greta Thunberg application trying to tell kids it's on them to save the universe from climate change or health care CEOs or whatever they take it seriously. But they're still children so they go about it in a terrible terrible way then they have climate anxiety and the rest of it. I could not hate progressivism more than I do. And the right wing and the right wing grifters to do you think the progressive world is going to turn on a I in general. That's a good question or is it going to be the you know the 10% fringes on both sides the super progressives and then because there's a lot of people further out because they're they're all you know liberal biased not going to get involved with that. And a lot of mar liberal bias but or is it just lashing out against power as they perceive it I mean for instance you had this Ivy League educated 27 year old in Southern California the other day Shamal Abdul Karim age 29. He sparked that giant blaze at the Kimberly Clark warehouse. He complained about wages and compared himself to man Gio and according to federal prosecutors quote a lot of people are going to understand. He likened what he did to quote when Luigi pop that MF according to federal complaint. I got some other examples too. We'll talk more about that coming up looks like the whole live golf Saudi Arabia ruin professional golf for the world thing is over. I guess. Oh yeah yeah short. Short bounds short bogey short lived if you'll pardon the pun among other things on the way stay here. Armstrong and get it. Hey Michael play me a clip number 15 which I from Brett Bear special report the live golf tour is in serious trouble tonight. The Saudis want out eventually two sources who know the inner workings of the decision tell me the Saudis will fund live golf events through the end of this. Season. That means the country. That's enough of that Michael. It's a sports story and it's not particularly interesting unless you're into golf. I think the Saudis tried it and it didn't work. I think it's kind of interesting to expand just to the whole Saudi was trying to get involved more in the world and be more of a player. Like the United States and China is and it just in this case didn't particularly work out. Right exactly. The interesting part of the story is that the MBS had all sorts of incredibly grand plans including that like it was going to be a mile long city or 100 miles long or whatever the heck it was. That has been completely aborted partly because they've squandered so much money but they're going to continue to make that effort but they've pulled back on a couple of fronts. So you know if you're a golf fan you can talk about it amongst yourselves. It'd be nice to have some of the stars back. The biggest thing with MBS of course is that he's on board with Eliminate the regime in Iran. Yeah I'm much more interested in the Iranian Mullah League at this point than alternate golf tours. All that money spends though right the hundreds of millions of dollars they threw at the biggest players in the world to try to get him to go over. Oh yeah. Insane amounts of money. A lot of it guaranteed too. He tried it. It's nice to have unlimited cash. He tries these things. He spends 100 billion dollars. That didn't work. I guess I'll try this. Let's not throw good entire mints worth of money after bad. I'd like at some point to get to the absolutely acid-tongued Miranda Devine's obituary for Eric Swalwell's political career. It is brilliant as usual for Miranda. His ability to make money career might go away if he ends up in for real legal trouble. We mentioned yesterday LASVU Special Victims Unit is looking into the rape charges. Not only could he go to jail but he obviously he'd lose his law license and he is persona non grata for cable news shows which I'm sure with his looks he thought he was destined for at some point. He might be a cage match in Hunter Biden to try to make money. Too rapy for MSNBC speaking of which a couple of different writers have called out Democrats. Why are you beating a path to Al Sharpton's door to get anointed by that clown? I'll never understand that. I used to say that about Trump. Why are other Republicans feel like they need to go to Trump Tower and get his blessing to run for president? Who cares what Donald Trump says? I said that for years. Yeah I know you fool. You idiot. Speaking of corrupt California politicians I'd like to congratulate Gavin Newsom for putting a few hundred or a few thousand more young people and immigrants and single moms out of work. The next time you order a Dairy Queen Blizzard you'll probably be talking to AI. As DQ has joined a bunch of other fast food franchises and saying alright you've priced the people, you've priced us out of hiring people. You've made it too expensive to hire brand new workers who don't bring much value but they're going to try hard and they'll learn and as soon as they learn we'll give them promotions and that sort of thing. You've made it illegal to do that so you know what we're going to take a serious look at machines instead. So congratulations Gavin. It's probably going to happen anyway but this certainly hastens it along. Well yeah and it speeds up the transition so people can't adjust their lives. It's incredibly damaging and dislocating like a lot of progressive schemes are but don't worry they sound good. We get a lot more to come if you miss a segment or an hour you can get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand. You should subscribe and then you'll just get it automatically fed to you every single day. I hope you can stay here. Armstrong and Getty.
