Giggling about butt pads, lawyers, and lisps
51 min
•Feb 20, 2026about 2 months agoSummary
Hannah and Paige discuss reality TV ethics through the lens of a Tyra Banks documentary, analyze dating dynamics on Love is Blind, and explore the Wagatha Christie legal battle between soccer WAGs. They reflect on relationship standards, the impact of public scrutiny on reality TV participants, and how women's expectations in dating have evolved.
Insights
- Reality TV production often prioritizes sensationalism over participant welfare, with producers manipulating emotions and narratives for ratings rather than authentic storytelling
- Women in their 30s have significantly higher dating standards than their 20s counterparts, using early red flags to avoid wasting time on incompatible partners
- Legal battles and public feuds, even when won, extract a severe emotional and financial toll that outweighs any vindication gained
- Social media absence or reluctance from partners is a positive indicator of healthy relationship dynamics and genuine confidence
- The generational shift in female empowerment means younger women are recognizing relationship red flags earlier and prioritizing self-respect over settling
Trends
Reality TV reckoning: Increased accountability for exploitative production practices and participant manipulation in unscripted televisionDating standards inflation: Women increasingly using high expectations as filtering mechanisms rather than aspirational goalsAnti-social media masculinity: Male reluctance to appear on social media becoming a marker of authenticity and emotional maturityNepo baby discourse: Growing public interest in and criticism of inherited privilege in entertainment and modeling industriesLegal fatigue in public disputes: High-profile figures reconsidering public legal battles due to long-term reputational and mental health costsGen Z relationship awareness: Younger women consuming relationship advice content and applying it to identify incompatibility earlierInfluencer authenticity backlash: Audience preference for influencers who maintain privacy around romantic relationshipsReality TV participant trauma recognition: Delayed psychological impact of reality TV participation becoming normalized discussion topic
Topics
Reality TV Production Ethics and Participant ExploitationDating Standards and Relationship Red FlagsLegal Battles and Public FeudsSocial Media Privacy and Relationship BoundariesGenerational Differences in Dating ExpectationsReality TV Participant Mental Health ImpactInfluencer Relationship DisclosureNepo Baby Culture in EntertainmentGender Dynamics in Reality Dating ShowsCosmetic Procedure Side Effects and Public PerceptionWorkplace Harassment in Entertainment ProductionSAG Awards Red Carpet HostingPodcast Influence on Listener RelationshipsItalian-American Family DynamicsFemale Empowerment in Dating
Companies
Prime Video
Mentioned as entertainment platform offering shows including Fallout and Wicked content in opening advertisement segment
Netflix
Hannah is hosting the SAG Awards red carpet for Netflix, mentioned regarding her concerns about appearance and Botox
Hulu
Platform where the Wagatha Christie documentary series is available for streaming
Instagram
Discussed extensively regarding privacy, influencer culture, and relationship disclosure practices
Amazon
Source where Paige found and purchased a feather hair clip mentioned in the episode
WWE
Logan Paul's professional wrestling affiliation mentioned during Tom Brady comparison discussion
People
Tyra Banks
Subject of documentary about America's Next Top Model; criticized for inauthentic responses to exploitation allegations
Tom Brady
NFL legend who engaged in competitive banter with Logan Paul at Super Bowl event, questioned Paul's athlete status
Logan Paul
Content creator and WWE wrestler who competed against Tom Brady; defended athlete credentials citing WWE involvement
Margot Robbie
Actress referenced as inspiration for Hannah's hair accessory styling choices
Jennifer Aniston
Actress referenced in discussion about movie where characters earn hair clips as rewards
Molly Mae
Influencer referenced as comparison point for WAG lifestyle and social media presence
Phil Collins
Legendary musician and father of nepo baby Lily Collins; composer of Tarzan soundtrack
Lily Collins
Actress and nepo baby daughter of Phil Collins; discussed as example of inherited entertainment privilege
Michael Kors
Fashion designer spotted at breakfast in Italy; mentioned in anecdote about Paige's father's celebrity encounters
Quotes
"They call it producing, but it's actually manipulating. Yeah. They'll say, hey, I'm going to produce her. Watch this. And then you take a normal person having normal emotions and twist it for them to think they're in some like different setting."
Paige•Mid-episode reality TV discussion
"If you have high expectations, high expectations is what you'll get. And if you have low expectations, low expectations is what you'll get."
Paige•Dating standards discussion
"There's a reality TV reckoning happening. I can say like I've had some producers on reality TV where I'm like, you have made my experience that much better."
Hannah•Reality TV ethics discussion
"If a man is telling me he wants to be in my Insta story, yeah red fucking flag."
Paige•Dating red flags discussion
"The way your man speaks about you is how he feels about you and what he puts into the world."
Hannah•Relationship dynamics discussion
Full Transcript
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And she does that hairstyle all the time now. In my heart of hearts, I am Gen Z, but with the millennial upbringing. Yeah. And this is how I also know you're a narcissist. because we've been together for 10 minutes you haven't said one thing about my feather because I was waiting to press record single thing about my feather no this is the thing I love this main character energy feather so she is just like a really comfortable t-shirt a stod oversized she's thick I mean feel that you'd like that no that is high quality I thought it was stowed tomato tomato tomato tomato my mom called me and she's like you guys gotta learn how to pronounce words because it's starting to get to me and I said well that was the educational system that you brought me up with um I love this feather Amazon I actually put it in the newsletter you added it yeah yeah oh you're a full designer no I literally runway it came up on my Amazon and I was like what is that fun little okay so I'm gonna put my hair clips in the newsletter and you put your feather clip and the girls are gonna be it's kind of like that Jennifer Aniston movie where they put what is it called usually i can get there usually i can jennifer aniston movie she's she works as a waitress and she puts when she does good things they give her more clips oh oh it's all the space flair oh okay yeah yeah okay anyway oh so did you watch i watched it okay tell me everything you made it seem like a nice like i was excited to sit down to watch in a good documentary and it was I didn't want to give things away for the people not enough people are talking about truly how unhinged Tyra kind of is recent like she seems a little bit crazy in this documentary also I have three weeks left in my Invisalign and I actually think it gave me a lisp so I digress for like two seconds or is it the Botox that's giving you a lisp I think it's a a combination of the things because the one thing you have to do for your job is speak like it's the only thing what's a challenge that I could make my job a little bit harder for myself so Tyra had this like evil grin the whole time yeah where she'd be like she came off um oh my god I don't mean to like bash Tyra Banks right now but she came off like a little bit inauthentic not a little bit she came off like pretty inauthentic especially when they're recounting these events and then they have the actual girls being like no he was groping me yeah like no there's no if ands or buts i was uncomfortable and it was weird and no one did anything you could tell she didn't know that the other people were gonna speak out the way they did it almost seemed like it was posed to her of like this is a documentary and we're gonna scratch the surface give us you can give us some pr answers and the other people will talk you don't have to get as much in the mud I can't believe she agreed to it but I can't believe she agreed to it but I also think she was trying to be like I want to defend myself in a way but then she didn't really try she was kind of just like I don't I don't want to address things well I just think like anything that came up that was like this is a crazy like okay the girl Shandy where they were talking about how she got blackout drunk and she cheated on her boyfriend and they filmed Which is not what happened. And they filmed the whole thing and then they filmed the next morning. She acted like in the beginning, like she didn't even remember who she was. And it's like, OK, if you had come out and been like of that time period for TV, I was pressured into making it more salacious. And so and I regret it. Like I shouldn't have added X, Y and Z because they were in the they were editing it. And be like, yeah, I got obsessed with making the show as salacious as possible. I wanted to make more money. I wanted the show to be bigger. I wanted to be. I think also anyone in reality TV production. She said she wasn't. She's the executive producer. Right. Anyone in reality TV production. I met some of the worst people in my life in reality TV production. Reality TV production. And some people are good people. They fall into it and then realize, oh, this is horrible what we're doing to these people. Yeah. And then they get out of it. I'm telling you, there's a reality TV reckoning happening. I can say like I've had some producers on reality TV where I'm like, you have made my experience that much better. You've really helped me tell my story. You've really like you've really helped me open up. And then there are some people that I'm like, you actually are the devil. And this is it's crazy. They call it producing, but it's actually manipulating. Yeah. They'll say, hey, I'm going to produce her. Watch this. And then you take a normal person having normal emotions and twist it for them to think they're in some like different setting. And yes, seeing Shandy have to do these phone calls on camera like and you could tell to this day. It fucked her up. Well, every single one of them, even though this was like 10 to almost 20 years ago, none of them are over any situation that they went through. Like you can just tell the way they're talking about it that it has stuck with them and they think about it every single day. You know, it's sad. If the show wasn't successful, it actually wouldn't have affected them that much because no one would have seen it. So that's the problem with when things go viral is that everything is that much more intense. The craziest thing for me is like, I feel like I grew up watching Tyra Banks. Like you watch her on Victoria's Secret. She was in that movie Life Size. Then the show comes out. Like I just had this vision of Tyra Banks my whole life of like, not only is she so stunning and gorgeous, but she's smart. She's a business. Do you hear my list? how annoying is it for you like you you're like i can't i can't go on or just lean into it be like this is not dis tyra banks i have to take my i had to just be french be like je ne sais quoi oh my god that was iconic keep that in grace keep that in i feel like i've done that like before hooking up with a guy no i've totally taken out like things i stuff my bra with before I'm like, don't worry about this. And not discounting the things that Tyra Banks has done for black women, women like curvy women in modeling, like opened so many doors. Totally. But I saw a clip and it was like her talking about her modeling career, her talking about any like business venture, the show, whatever. And she said, I really want my legacy to be ice cream. And I said, you know what? We're done here. Truly, we're done here, I think. I think you know that when you said there can be multiple truths at once. Yeah. Did I say that? no it's like yes back to my original point has done so many amazing things right for women for diversity of size of race of totally but also and the theory of this show was good intended like this was also the amount of beautiful women who look differently than the popular model at the time yeah reality tv is messy because they don't treat you as humans yeah your characters that they monetize except afterwards they don't go audition for new characters you are the character right and you're it's stuck with you yeah and I also have to say Tyra didn't act alone Tyra had totally massive executives executives fucking yeah making tons of money off of like Shandy right and if the network says something then it's like okay well this is what we have to do and I feel like she found herself in a rock in a hard place that's why I feel like doing this documentary now if she had sat there and was like so much got fucked up that I would have never seen coming and now years later looking back like I feel really bad if she had just said that one time I think I would have had a totally different experience watching her like even at the end when they didn't get what they wanted from her and it cut to Danielle being like shut up like yeah it definitely that was what they wanted you to get from it I also think what pissed me off the most actually there was a lot of things but one of the things that was frustrating is because it was like 2000s yeah they didn't have Instagram so nowadays with reality tv even if something kind of bad happens to you right you still have your own platform that you can build yeah these girls didn't have that she just had to go back to Walgreens and she could not have a voice she couldn't express herself she couldn't show other sides you're almost like in a jail that you created or that they created for you I could tell like even like Love Island um when they these people leave they're set for like five years yeah if they like build a following off of it yeah where these girls couldn't build a following on their own that was it like I could see so many of these girls going extremely viral like people who but then also it could have even been worse like shandy could have been just so harassed online right that like i'm so happy you brought up love is blind are you watching no so the new season came out is it good it's such a good way to gauge what dating is like in the current moment every guy wants a husband like they all want no like they truly want husband the truth is if they want to be on reality tv they want a husband louder for the people in the back they want a husband and they also um the only reason why I say that is because like a lot of it they talk a lot this season about like being sexually attracted to the person which totally like I could never do love is blind like I I feel like that is like a solid 50 50 like you have to be able to have sex with that person but the guys want to be they don't want to do the initiating like one of the arguments was like okay but you could like initiate too and I am so of like the mindset of like if you think it should be 50 50 you want a husband like you don't want to date me yeah like you want her to chase you they also a lot of the men like they bring it up more that they're not attracted to the women and it's I'm like do you own a mirror like have you ever looked in it one time no just like one time take a glance why you think you deserve someone you're already with someone that's way hotter than you what you think you deserve someone even hotter please check the mirror it is crazy to think what men think they well it's delusion and all the girls say that like wow he's here's the one all another gripe I have with Love is Blind. I don't know these people's names. And if I see them one time on the screen and you don't have their name in the lower third, I'm never remembering it. Love is Blind. Someone in editing, keep the names up for longer. This is one season we're never seeing these people again. I'm not memorizing their names. Like I have no idea what couple is which and what their names are. And I'm just like the blonde one, the blonder blonde one. I just want them to be uglier. People missing teeth. okay that's like a totally different show no but like that's love is blind like i want you to fall in love with someone and be like but everyone is i actually think they do a really good job of like i don't think there's someone that i'm like oh my god she's like um 10 times better looking than all the other girls like i really do feel like all the girls are pretty but is it more interesting if they throw in like a model with a horrible personality and then like the funniest most charming like girl who isn traditionally good looking i mean yeah everything would make that would like make way better to me but like me acting like tyra bank you're no better than a man like you're like what if we got a leggy model okay and we put her with an ogre ratings would skyrocket and no they would but i that's why i'm like it's so crazy that the men are like i don't know if i'm attracted to you because i'm like you don't know if you're attracted to her like are you kidding men would have sex with warm bread pudding if it was in their vicinity Hannah you would be so mad there's this literal she's an angel I don't know her name is though and I wish I don't watch these shows because I get too mad she's an angel she's gorgeous she's stunning she's a doctor a medical md doctor went to college multiple years this man is pushing pushing five six truly and he looks at this woman and he goes i'm really used to being with someone that goes to pilates every single day first of all no you're not so that's a lie second of all then if you like it so much go she's busy saving lives she doesn't have time to do pilates three times a day she's literally what was it called during covid when like she's essential oh she's an essential worker she's essential you're not and if you love pilates so much you should go every day but also men i'm also sick of the men going to pilates that's like a whole other gripe like well that's illegal it's not space for you i've just seen i've been seeing it a lot on my timeline oh my god and i'm getting i'm starting to get really annoyed no because if there's a man in your pilates class you're gonna get robbed well it's also like okay you don't let us go to the gym and wear sports bras because you're freaks and now you think you're gonna show up at our place to work to our gorgeous ballet studios yeah and then they're always like can i put another red on shut the fuck up shut up shut up anyway but the problem with these middle good-looking men like they're in the middle we all know those are the ones that like really fuck with you like any time I've dated down yeah but when you date down what is your what is your definition of dating up I'm not I don't like dating down I like to feel like I'm obsessed with them yeah I want to feel lucky to be with them you have to admire them yes I think that's the word yes and I have dated guys who I admire their jawline but then like the second they open their mouth I'm like no no no no my grandma said something to me this is like years I mean I was in like middle school I'm like grandma I don't even know if I need to know this but she said something to me that has like truly stuck with me through my 20s and my 30s and that is if you have a son and your son walked through the door right now and he was an exact replica of who you're currently dating are you proud of that person and I'm like I'm delusional where like I don't rate myself in any way I just know that I'm that girl so I'm not like oh I'm this I don't look in the mirror I don't know how I look I just know that I want the best for myself that is right for me we have high standards I have very very high expectations very high expectations and I have I think it's because of my parents yeah and I know yours as well very high zero tolerance for of disrespect. Zero tolerance. Zero tolerance for not believing in me. Zero tolerance for sassiness. Gentle parenting not around here. Never seen it, never heard of it. Only heard about it in books and movies. Never experienced it. And I remember dating down. And when I say down, it's like you know in your heart of hearts like. You're a loser. He's a loser. He's a loser. I feel like they know that they don't deserve you. And because of their insecurities, they fuck with you. Yes. And that's the most upsetting thing. And that's literally like made my mind crazy. Yeah. Well, honestly, that's the whole plot of Tell Me Lies. And the director. Maybe that's why it's triggering for me. It is. I said that girl should not be talking to him. Well, they just ended the series. They just put the season finale out, which I watched it. Some people were like mad about it because they felt like the main character, Stephen, like got away with everything, whatever. There's like a lot of discourse about it. Men getting away with stuff. That's life. But one of the craziest things is the director. I think she's the director. He came out and was like, I have been shocked over the past few years about how many people are so mad at Lucy saying that she's just as bad as Steven and and hating her almost in the sense of like, well, because she's weak. We hate her. But like discounting the fact that she wasn't like this. Like he literally manipulated her. He made her into this. Your response to abuse should not be judged. Yeah. People respond to abuse in many different ways. Yeah. Some people freak out. Some people just become a clam. Yeah. And I think. Not that seafood referencing it. Do you know my dad called me last night and he goes, I got to talk to you about something because I'm a little bit pissed off. And my dad rarely will call me after like 8 p.m. Because I'm like, he's asleep. I get a FaceTime at 9.30. And I'm like, oh, I must have like really like annoyed him with something. And he goes, how dare you sit on your podcast and talk bad about clams? Oh, he took my side. He goes, I love clams. You love clams. You're acting like you don't love clams. He goes, we go to Italy every single year. I eat clams for dinner and lunch. And you didn't even say anything. I love how we say the most horrible shit about men. and your dad calls can we discuss the clam the clam he goes well one time in italy we saw michael kors like at breakfast and he's never forgot it so when you talk about michael kors on the pod he's like my friend i saw hannah saw my friend did you say hi did you say gary says maybe we could all have clams i love that gary's listening hi gary bear um speaking of calling people last night our lives are never boring. Never. Something comes up and I want to, I want to, I'm all hyped up. Now I know it was around 1030 and I said, Paige is out for the day. She's done. She's done. She's clocked out. She's clocked out. But I, in one of those moments of friendship, I said, I don't care. Yeah. If you're calling me post 945, you might get a yoga instructor. You might get a health guru. I answer hyped up. I've been, I've been jacked up. Yeah. Paige answers with a mask on. Yeah, a classic sleep-in face mask. Getting my collagen where I can. I give her all these crazy arguments. She goes, I'm going to need you to relax. I'm about a joint and a half deep. Hannah starts hitting me with life-plaguing questions. I'm not talking next week, next month. I'm talking things that will affect us in five to seven years. project going on and I'm like I had an epiphany I think we scratch it I go I think we start from the ground up and it's it's because of these seven different points and she looks at me she goes everything's gonna be fine I need you to just relax I'm gonna need you to take a beat but mind you if I'd called you at like 11 o'clock right when you're on your walking pad and you're jacked up with coffee you would have been like I'm actually let me get on the phone with my lawyer right now and I'll deal with this there's nothing I love more than getting on the phone with my lawyer there's something i actually there's one thing i love more than getting on the phone with my lawyer is telling people i'm gonna get on the phone with my lawyer well see you in small claims court is real absolutely 100 absolutely so i'm hosting the sag awards um red carpet for netflix i have a frozen chin a lisp now i didn't tell netflix that i have a frozen chin and a list and my fear is I'm gonna do it and people are gonna be like oh my god she went so overboard with the Botox she loves plastic surgery when I was the one that was like I'm waiting to get Botox and then I get a little bit botched and now all of the sudden so I'm like nervous that that's gonna be whatever I have two weeks though until you're gonna be totally fine also I've been looking at your face this whole time I haven't been distracted by your but I also don't I don't really listen to you but you love me and i love you there's a lot of people out there if the worst thing people have to say about you is like you overdid the botox that's a relatable queen oh thank you so much for saying it's honestly more likable for you to stop being so perfect all the time i would feel like let me tell you something too i really need your help and i selfishly asked you to come over to my apartment today because i actually want you to help me with my cards for the sag awards i was gonna say i was supposed to do it with you hannah's supposed to do the sag words with me and I get a phone call from Hannah saying um I actually decided to absolutely not do that no but the day before I'm shooting my special okay it was it was it was impossible and emotionally I couldn't make it happen you couldn't handle it the amount of beta blockers actually don't exist for me to find then you've dealt with me me tired standing on the wrong side before especially that's like a lot that you need like a full week to recover so you have to study so I have to study let me just say it's live which is different than a lot of people can interview and just take the funniest moments and post it which is ideal but live is like you're gonna be working babe well I have like normal facts about every single celebrity like how many times I've been nominated what movie it's for like blah blah blah all the boring facts but now I'm going in and adding like one funny question or like okay look they hired me for a personality honey like they knew they were getting i don't it is live so like i guess you can ask who here do you trust the least you just do full andy cohen at a reunion with everyone coming in no you go who have you been side eyeing do you have a finsta no i'm obsessed also at the end of the day your dress is really good no my dress is which is at the end of the day all that matters truly it's truly all that matters but it's gonna be fun i can't wait to watch it um wait one other viral thing that I that I saw recently and you know we don't like praising the men on this but sometimes I'm like oh I have to take like someone's side I don't know why I didn't see this during the Super Bowl or anything but did you see that clip of Tom Brady and Logan Paul they were like at the Super Bowl doing that doesn't come across on my algorithm thank God okay the only reason it came across mine was it across it was a girl doing like a duet to it like a rebuttal video essentially there's like some game or something like that tom brady's doing i think like i don't know men love a game football or if it's like football but it's like for a chair i have no idea what it is yeah like marco polo but logan paul is playing in it and so they were talking about like competing against each other or on the same team or but like whatever and i guess there's other professional sports people like playing in said game whatever It's crazy and no one asks me to continue. So basically the debate, not even the debate, Tom Brady says to Logan Paul, it's cute that you think you're an athlete, but you're not a professional athlete. You're about to be with major professional athletes. And Logan Paul starts talking about high school. Same. I would do the same. And then he says how he's in the WWE. Yes. And Tom Brady kind of like chuckled. I actually felt bad for Tom Brady in this moment because I'm like, if I was sitting there and some fucking kid was across the table from me and I'm the proven best in my sport, in my position for the past 10 years. Tom Brady put himself in that position. Don't go on a podcast with Logan Paul. That's what you get. And I would say as someone who like admittedly did like Logan and Jake Paul's reality show. Who knows what I was going through at that time? Well, let's be honest. You liked the girls in it. I liked Nina. I liked watching Nina. Nina and the other one who just won a gold medal. I love an Olympian. Sorry, I like women winning. Sorry, yeah. I do have to say, every now and then I'll be talking to someone and I'll bring up something that happened to me in tennis with college and they're like, you're literally a man. Like, I feel like I'm on a bad hinge date. Like, if you say check tape to me, I'm like, what? I don't think we brought this up. I don't know how I didn't watch this earlier. I think it because I was waiting to watch it and then it left my desk and it came right back across my desk Did you watch the Wagatha Christie story on Hulu What the heck is a Wagatha Okay so Agatha Christie is a novel of like a investigator. Yeah. It's about soccer wags. Okay. Documentary. Yes in England which you love England. It's basically Molly Mae but if she was with soccer players. Paige. No that's the kind of money I want watch on tv this is the most incredible thing how many episodes and i'm diving in yeah you're it's at least three okay oh my god so it starts off of course i don't remember any of the names but one of the women is with one of the biggest football players in england okay she met him in high school really cute and immediately goes from just being a like poor english girl to getting papped on the street to be like what's her story why is this guy with her they fell in love in high school so she immediately is a star yeah and she's gorgeous and people like her but she's just a regular person and she likes living this regular life and she has a private instagram where she has like 300 of her friends who she actually knows i love that and she posts like cute things about the family do you know one of my favorite things about my brother's girlfriend is that she doesn't have instagram she literally doesn't care about it and i'm like you're so jealous cool like we only speak because we send each other tiktoks i'm like that's my only form of communication which is why no there's something to be said about it the men in my family are just iconic my dad just learned how to post into stories which is a problem but my brother hasn't posted in like 12 years and that's why we trust them my brother was out here posting for attention i'd be like did i not beat you enough i actually feel like i get that text once a week from my brother did I not beat you enough as a child I'm like okay you know what no I did actually that's why I am that's why I'm so mean to men that's why I have no respect for any man because I was beaten my whole life by my older brother Logan Paul thinks he's so good at the WWE never seen Gary DeSorbo okay we're seeing Gary DeSorbo after a couple after a two liter of Pepsi unstoppable want to wrestle um anyway traumatizing um so she posts on her private story now things start getting leaked to the sun the sun is like the daily mail it's like the the tmz of england and at first it's kind of innocent stuff like oh um oh no there was a drama though her husband gets blackout drunk is found driving in a car with a random girl he's like i don't know how i got in the car why is this girl in my car how did this she needed a ride she jumped in my car i didn't know she was trying to yeah jack my car i don't know what his excuse was but she was going through it because she loves this man and she's like he clearly is drinking problems and cheats on me when he's drunk yeah at one point she posts that she's with him during this like on and off time and it goes to the sun that they're that they're together the s-u-n and she's like that's crazy because i just posted it on my story and she's looking through like who could have leaked this this continues happening and she's starting to go crazy and get really paranoid because she's like is this one of my close friends wait are you going to tell us who it is because i'd like to put in my formal guests now it's one of her friends that knows him from high school and maybe they've hooked up or dated. Please proceed. That is a great... Okay. It could have been. But it wasn't. It's actually one of her not close friends. She was at like a big soccer thing and she met another wag who loves being famous, loves being on covers, loves having articles written about her. now for some reason this girl when the sun writes about her it's all positive it's like look at her on vacation in italy and she's like i've never seen someone get so much positive footage from a tabloid before so she met this girl and the girl immediately was like what's your instagram i can't find you and she's like oh this is my private instagram so she's another wag so she thinks like that girl would there's like a code there's a code it's it's like a bro code you know what to say what yeah yeah so she's like I think it's this girl so she finds a way to block everyone from her story I mean that's why they're calling it Wagatha Christie this girl's a genius but also it's interesting she won't tell anyone she's not going to a lawyer she's not going to the police she's just like I'm gonna figure this out on my own which is very you coded I was just gonna say the power of a woman the power of a woman she goes I don't need determined woman I'm not calling a 65 year old man to like put this on his desk and forget about it so she posts something very controversial okay she's always wanted to have a daughter she has like four sons so she posts that she's going to mexico to try to like confirm the gender of her child like something that like something crazy like crazy like we're adopting an alien yes so she posts it and she sees the other wag see it she's the only one that saw nothing happens and then she waits and then something else gets leaked and she's like fuck this i'm blocking the girl and the girl responds is like hey why'd you block me like the girl's clearly following stuff then a couple months later the story leaks about the girl and the gender baby so she's basically so gender baby so she just goes straight to twitter and is like i cannot believe this wag has been doing this to me and my goes on a whole thing it blows up guess what the other wag does she says it's not me i'm suing your ass so they get in this insane legal battle and the other wag they're like okay everyone has to submit their phones and stuff the wag the other wag goes oh my phone got dropped in like and then her agent too was like oh my phone broke they i don't know what was going on but they did then they submitted like files with things redacted okay and should i say what happened yeah okay you've let us all to this water and then you're like and find out in the next episode no tell us what happened so at first it seemed like shoot they weren't going to be able to say who did it but it was found between the agent and the other wag that they were both colluding to sending stuff so it was proven yeah that she was guilty it was the craziest war but I think that woman still says like it wasn't me here's my thing with that like I feel like I've been in the position you two so many times where I'm like I could go to war with this person and truly prove them wrong in the court of public opinion and I can bring up all these receipts and I could show everyone just how fucking crazy you are. But then I will have to live with anytime someone Googles your nameless name, I'm going to come up and I don't want anything to do with you. I don't want to be like put together with you in a news article. I don't want our names ever being in the same sentence so you have to be really mad like you have to really she regretted it yeah she regretted it she said my life i thought i was gonna like you think you're getting justice she thought she's getting justice and she said the next like three years of my life were the worst years of my life millions of dollars spent in legal fees yeah in the and just negative attention energy even thinking about this loser your private life is so exposed yeah every single text message it's very scary um so as two sicilians who love revenge there are so many times where you're like you're a miserable fuck and i'm not playing in the mud with pigs well you know how like i love blocking people and you're like i never i've never i've no never blocked a person yeah you're like i block people on my phone because i don't like people having access to me right but you're very much like let them social media babe social media where i'm like okay blocked gotta go i forget what I just like to point that out. You don't block people and I do. I don't block people because look, you got to see the whole movie. You can't stop in the beginning of the movie when things are hard. No, but I just think like it is a better revenge being like you think you're trying to you think you're taking me down. But my silence of like never speaking your name, not even knowing that you exist is probably eating you up more than like me acknowledging you and saying that you are in fact. crazy yeah i block men i block bad friends on my phone because i don't want you to have access to me i don't want you to try to manipulate me i don't want you to try to um yeah like fuck up boundaries that i've put yeah but in terms of me as a person and my social media and what i'm up to um it drives me i think it's smart yeah i think i appreciate that you know when you give me compliments that you create a monster so please stop um I'm also obsessed with random nepo babies I didn't know we're random nepo babies like like Lily Collins people don't talk about her like she's a nepo baby her dad is Phil Collins which is who again he's like one of the greatest musicians of our time no I knew that like well he's iconic because he like looks like an accountant and then he's like playing every instrument and like has the voice of an angel do you remember the Tarzan soundtrack? Not off the top of my head but if someone brought it Nope, still not like totally ringing a bell. You got it. Don't be shy. No. He wrote it though? Yeah. Any other good ones? Tarzan was like my sexual awakening. No, I mean Nepo children. Oh, I think I thought you wanted me to keep with Phil Collins music. That's so funny because I remember when I was younger seeing Tarzan I my first instinct was you know why would she want to be in the jungle she's wearing a dress she's wearing I hated that she had like pearls and like little gloves and then she was forced to be in the mud yes I hate it I was pissed off I actually wouldn't finish watching it I like told my mom I was like this is stupid she's dressed she's ready like she has to now like forage he's not even speaking to her like i had strong opinions on tarzan when i was younger i was like get it off the screen mom that's like getting mad at jasmine for going with the guy with no job instead of jafar who is loaded well i'm like babe it's you you have the money you could show him the world what are we talking about you don't have to get on a carpet you can get in a Lamborghini. Also, yeah, a carpet. A carpet that's been set on multiple. When was the last time they vacuumed that carpet? We rarely talk about like any good we do, you know, anything nice we do for like. That's boring. I do try and do a lot with like my old high school. They're still around. And like if I'm like, I can't let another one go. You have your college. I'm like, that's all you have at this point. It's all I have. I could go back to my middle school, which is thriving, but I feel like they don't need my help. Yeah. So anyway, I try and like sponsor things when I can. I try and like pay for things, whatever. But one of the things that I do is they do like this like alumni connection and you can like, someone can like ask you because you've like already graduated to be there, whatever. So I find myself, couldn't even be Gen Z. What is she? If you're in college right now. I think Gen Z. Is she still Gen Z? Yeah, I think. So I find myself chatting with a Gen Z girl quite often. And it's so funny because it's not that long ago that we were freshmen in college. It really isn't, though. How long is that? 10 years? Like 15 years. Oh, actually, okay, wow. The math in my head. I was like, but if I'm 26. wait that was someone yesterday was talking to us about our age and i was like we're 26 yeah but everyone thinks we're 26 literally i just was like wait but i'm 26 so how could that be i think people think we're like 29 to 31 whatever it doesn't feel that long ago even though it was yeah but when i talk to her i do immediately get back into the mindset of like oh my god and if i don have this figured out and and then I telling her like you this is what like the beginning of college is for to like figure out all these things you are not behind you you did not you didn't even you couldn't even mess anything up yet if you tried and so like I find her me like talking to her about all of that stuff and then obviously we talk about like lasering our hair off and all this but she texted me recently because we had talked about like her being in a relationship and like all of this stuff and she texted me recently and she was like I fucked around and I listened to Giggly Squad a little bit too much and I broke up with my boyfriend and I just I feel like now we need to go even younger do you know why I say good because no girl has ever broken up with a guy and regretted it which is an amazing point because I would never accidentally made a mistake and broke up with a guy Do you have one girlfriend that you've ever had a conversation with where she said, ugh, he's really the one that got away? Never. Not one. Never. Also, no girl randomly just wakes up and is like, I'm going to break up with a guy. Right. She has went through pros and cons. She's talked to 12 to 17 different people about it. I could show. Including professionals, including her therapist. I actually think there is a young crew of girls who listen to Giggly Squad and they're powerful. No, they're powerful. I'm like, if you can recognize this now that he's holding you back, he doesn't want you to do X, Y, and Z because it's making him feel inadequate because of whatever, like if you can realize that now, you save like so much time in your twenties. I also hate to say it cause I love sex in the city, but it did give me this feeling of like, you could be single in your thirties and it's kind of scary. Like they're, they're like, how do we find this man how do we find this man how do we find this man but maybe they're listening to girls like us in our 30s where it's like yeah i'm married but like we don't talk about that gross i love how i literally was like you don't need to find him but the truth is is like we're not like it's not life or death finding a man well one i feel like because you're married and it so you don't think about it and also because i'm married and it you guys understand that it doesn't like it doesn't play into your day-to-day life who is where is that man who is No, like no one's respecting me more because I'm married. Every respect I've ever gotten in this industry is because of myself. If anything, one of my biggest fears of getting married is that I will lose respect. It's horrible for the brand. No, I'm like, wait, people aren't going to take me seriously because I take you seriously. You reflect on to me. I'm like, do you realize that you're ruining everything about my brand? Yeah, and Sex and the City was literally them at brunch sometimes just being like, this guy hurt me, this guy, I don't know what to do with this guy, I don't know what to do with that guy. No, that's like, I would say right now at this time, one of my biggest fears is that if I get married and I have a baby, everyone will look at me differently, treat me differently, and my job and career will change. Seeing girls pre-being a mom as like, that's their life. And then after the, when the mom starts, it's like, well, now you're a mom. But I think we're the generation that's changing that. Yeah, we'll start with me. We'll start with you. but I will say when I froze my eggs I did feel like oh I'm fine also there's so many women in the arts women in STEM who you don't realize has a full-fledged family she just doesn't talk about it right I do have to say I don't like when influencers make their boyfriends their whole personality because then when it doesn't work out yeah it's like you want you're less than because he was making you who you were. Yeah, and also just like if you have a boyfriend that wants to be on your Instagram story, like he wants a husband. Can I just say hot take? Whenever I see influencers like post with their boyfriend and he looks miserable. Yeah. Green flag. I kind of think so too. And I've like seen girls comments where it's like, he hates you. And I'm like, I couldn't even bring myself to comment that on someone's like, that's crazy. Because I know men in my life who are the greatest men do not want to be on camera. if a camera gets in front of them they're immediately like freeze don't know what to do don't know what to say and don't like it if a camera if a man is telling me he wants to be in my Insta story yeah red fucking flag and obviously there's so many reasons why I never talk about like dating a man or like being with a man like even like Valentine's Day people were like obviously you're in a man's bedroom because it has no artwork the bed's unmade like what's going on here is that a jail cell um there's so many different reasons on why one I feel like because I was like had such public relationships and like the court of public opinion is like not healthy but two is because I'm like what the hell does he have to do with my personality 100% you know like 100% I posted happy valentine's day with my mom and people were like messaging me like what's going on with you and does i'm like give me the man sitting next to me right now right there's two types of men there's men that um love compliments and like love praise and love like looking cool and like yeah i'll post this picture because like i want a dm that says i look cool or people to think that i look cool whatever and then there's men that don't post because they only care if like you think it's cool also they know they're cool they don't need other people to tell them what my major point what my point was the thing is you're really good at setting up a point here's the difference whatever you're about to say i agree with actually let me rewind let me go back there's two types of men there's men that care about what other women think and then there's men that care about only what the person they're with thinks but i wouldn't even just say men there's two types of women yeah women that care about what every man thinks of them yeah and women who just care about the man they love thinks of them there's all there's a power in that there's also three types there's also another type of man that like who cares what other men think well des is like this and i would put des in this category he doesn't play when it comes to you like there is like because here's the thing if you posted a picture of him and someone commented something rude you're setting him up to have an angry day because he can't compartmentalize if it was about him he could compartmentalize and be like yeah that person who cares I don't know that person but when it comes to you he doesn't mess around but then there's men where it's like you would talk shit about me if someone gave you the opportunity and they were like no one will ever know say what you really feel the way your man speaks about you is how he feels about you and what he puts into the world and I will say I don't think I've ever been with someone I actually just to dumb it down I don't think I've ever been with someone who genuinely liked genuinely liked my full personality like liked certain parts and certain characteristics but I don't think I've ever been with someone that like 360 likes my personality if you feel like you have to be anything other than yourself that's the red flag which goes back to the beginning of love is blind which which is if you feel like you it's not about being with someone who's really hot or being with someone who's really cool it's about being with someone who makes you feel like you and that's what my parents always said to me yeah when my parents would see me with whatever man I was with at the time they wouldn't look at him they would look at me yeah and they would be like I don't like how you acted around yes like you're not eating you're like you're not i mean you look amazing no it would always be i feel like you're waiting for him to or like he seems to control he's controlling like it was looking at me and when they saw me being able to be childlike and free and myself that's when they said that's the man for you yeah it was never them looking at the man girl i also think like this is the first time in my life i've ever dated someone italian like why do you think you never went Italian before I don't like there weren't enough Italians in New York I feel like I never really knew that once you started you'd be stuck I feel like well it's hard explaining an Italian family to like a waspy white guy from Connecticut like it's there is such a disconnect like do you know like the word like acida yeah you get acida when you get worked up yeah like this morning it's how i live my life like this morning i was just like i have like achita like i can't like and it's it's heartburn but it's also you're just like also you explaining racota to someone yeah and like me being like okay origin of the word look i don't know origin of the word but you give it to me like i don't i hate to say it and be an annoying new yorker but like my man is new york Like I've dated guys from other places and it's not that they're evil. It's that they don't feel like home. And you cannot have your cortisol levels confused and weirded out. It makes you bloated when you're with someone who feels like family for better or worse. Sometimes their demons are your family's demons, which makes things at least, you know, how to deal with it. Yeah. The devil, you know, finding someone that is right for you and not just right on. a paper technicality or Instagram. Yeah. Don't get caught up in this like, oh, I like, he looks good in my Instagram stories. Right. No, I like, I'll never post a man ever again. I don't even, if I have a son, I don't even think I'll post him. You know, because we never, no. We can never be too cautious. I'm like, am I really your mom? I don't know. No, it is just like weird. Dating is weird. It's weird dating also in your 30s because I don't think when you're younger, you fantasize about it. Like you fantasize about dating in your 20s like, oh my God, what's it going to be like? I'm going to go on all these dates. And you rarely think about it in your 30s because you're like, oh, well, I'll be married by then. And then when you're not, you're like, well, what is this? What is dating in your 30s? Do you even call it a boyfriend? You're basically his boss. Like one of my girlfriends texted me the other day. Like, okay, this is a perfect example. In my 20s, if someone didn't send an Uber for me to go out on a date, I would think nothing of it. We live in New York City. Yeah, of course, I'm going to meet you there. There's no like, let me pick you up in New York City because whatever. Now if I'm in my 30s, if a guy doesn't offer to send me an Uber to like dinner, I'm not going. How am I supposed to get there? And if he doesn't it's like an uber x I'm not going Like this is the first date You're supposed to be putting all your cards Out on the table for me to look at And some people might have listened to that And said Paige you're being high maintenance You're being over the top She knows what she wants And why waste six months with a guy When you know immediately he's not thinking the right way If you have high expectations High expectations is what you'll get And if you have low expectations Low expectations is what you'll get But I also think in your 20s, it's so much easier to lie to yourself. Like, you don't know. Also, you're poor in your 20s. You're poor and you don't know. Right. You're literally like, okay, he did that, but that could mean this. We don't know. I always say it's like taking your first shot of vodka. Yeah. When you're like, someone's like, do you want to chase her? And you're like, why? Like, nothing. You don't know what could go wrong. And now when you see tequila, you're like, I'm going to gag. This goes back to, like, love is blind, because I'm, like, watching grown men, like, explain why they won't give the woman that they picked to marry compliments. And I'm like, this is like a really, this is like a really painful conversation. And one guy was like trying to say, oh, because you asked me to do it now, like I can, and now I'm putting up a wall. If you're with a man and he says the phrase, I'm putting up a wall again, he wants a husband. Um, like that's for girls. Putting up a wall is for girls because of you guys, you can't put up walls. like you have no walls I also did buy a skims butt pad just cause I wanna see are you gonna put it in the dress? I don't know what we're gonna see wait I'm obsessed with you I just wanted to try it out I mean I have the nipple bra I'm like what if we just built it imagine me with a butt pad you can go to my apartment you can try it on I have it okay we gotta go try on some butt pads we love you gigglers thank you for listening and talk to you later have a great weekend bye Thank you.