Nightcap Hour 1: Knicks KNOCK OFF Celtics in THRILLER + Rocket BEAT INJURED Sixers + Kayden McDonald JOINS Nightcap + Joel Embiid INJURIES +Anthony Davis’ MVP RANKINGS

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That's code Shannon to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup. Prize picks. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. And thank you for joining us again for another episode of Nightcap. Y'all know who I am. I'm your favorite up. And there he is, the tongue food master himself, Liberty City legend, bingo, ring of fame, a pro bowler and an all pro. He's Chad, Ocho Cinco Johnson and the third member of the big three. Y'all know him, seven time NBA All Star from the Atlanta Hawks, a University of Arkansas alum and Little Rock Arkansas native. He claimed he won a state championship in basketball, but there's no verifiable proof of that. Y'all know him, Iso, Joe, John. I ain't seen no- That's how we started the show off? Y'all know that? Hey, uh, Joe feeling good and now he got his arms out. You saw that? You see that? He got his arms out. Y'all know now, I ain't gonna tell no lie to you because I'm fly to you. Listen. You are a... I don't care who tell it. I don't care who tell it. I don't care about that though. I did my research, Joe. I ain't see it, Joe. Ocho made me get proof. I had to go get proof from the Georgia Basketball Association to show this man I scored 52 points in the game, Joe. You ain't know that now. You scored 52 in the game in high school? I'm gonna give you a round with you. Hey, Joe, Joe, it won no competition out there, Joe. It won no competition. If my people chat, whoever in the chat from Arkansas, from Little Rock, y'all know, man, I need y'all to get in the chat, man. And vouch for y'all know what's wrong with these boys, man. Wait, hold on, vouch. Vouch, we need to see article. We need to see proof. I mean, just what they gonna do with Joe? Y'all need to see proof. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hey, hey, don't go pull out your kid trophies either. What's up, baby? How was your day? So far, so good, man. Good. Had a great taping down here while I'm in Miami. You know I'm in Miami, but it's been raining. What that say? You hear and they tell me? You don't see this? Yeah, we can't see that. You ain't got no zoom on your camera, but we gonna take your word for it. Hold on, timeout, timeout, timeout, timeout. Hey, hey, Joe. Man, it's, man, on down here in Miami, they ain't even tell me. Oh, Joe, man, you get, boy, I done taped two, I done taped two episodes of Clash Nation. And I'm doing night camp. Hold on, hey, hey, hey, check me out. Hey, let's go get, let's go lunch tomorrow. I'm not part of here tomorrow. No, change up, hey, change up flight. No, I gotta be, bro, I got three episodes in Atlanta. Hold on, so you mean to tell me you can't in Miami and you focus on work instead of seeing your, your car? Yeah, man, you got a bad rep. Oh, Joe, damn. Hey, hey, Joe, hey. Man, let's get through this intro. God damn. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the night camp podcast feed wherever you get your podcasts from. 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They got, they host New Orleans on Friday and Orlando on Sunday. So if they win one of these final two games, they are the number two seed, the Knicks I believe will be the number three seed if they win out. The Knicks host Toronto on Friday and close out against Charlotte on Sunday. Joe watching this game, look, the Knicks were ahead comfortably. They were ahead by 12 points at one point in time. And the next thing you know, Boston ended up having a six point lead. Sharmin got hot from three, JT hit a couple of threes, Pritchett hit a couple of threes. But Joe, what did you like about what you saw from the Knicks? Having the lead, giving up the lead and then finding a way to win this. Well, they knew that, you know, with Boston being without JB, Jalen Brown. Okay, Ocho, you got to take advantage of that, bro. Now, I know you ain't looking at the Skyrim report and saying, Shidenheimer gonna go seven for eight from the field, six for seven, three. You know what I mean? But boy, hey, he called five. I like how Tatum played. Obviously, you know, he was ultra aggressive. You look at Peyton Pritchett and them guys coming off the bench, man, they gonna be, ooh, Boston gonna be something else in the post season, man. When they fully healthy, they gonna get Ocho, they can be anybody in the East. Matter of fact, they might, they could potentially come out of the East. You know, I'm talking about a team that's tested. Tatum getting more comfortable. Been there, done that. Tatum getting more comfortable, you know, in his ability to get back to where he was, playing championship caliber basketball. Man, it was fun to watch, but New York, New York, man, they made some runs. I thought Brunson played great, Towns picked it up. If it weren't for Josh Hart, they wouldn't have won that game tonight. He hit two big threes. Look, if that means, when you see what they did, they got the ball out of Jalen Brunson's hand. If somebody else beat me, a guy, I can, thanks for all my love with that. I just know, I just know Jalen Brunson ain't gonna hit those shots. Hey, hey, if Josh Hart hits those, and he hits two, I mean, he stepped up. Now the first one to hit the clock was kind of running back down. But that last one that he hit, he shot down the confidence. He said, keep it up, I got your last time, I'm gonna get you. And he held it up there. So I like what I saw also. Oh, Joe, what you think? What you think about the next one? The other Celtics tonight? Listen, nobody really liked my basketball take, but I'm gonna give you one anyway. Yeah, we like it. We like your basketball take. Hey, I appreciate it, Joe, but obviously, listen, the game of basketball, would I've come to learn in my short time of learning the game? It's a game of runs, Joe and Uncle. Just like football, it's all about momentum. Obviously in this game, the Celtics went on runs, and obviously, Nick's went on runs. And I think for the Nick's sake, they're sick with JB not playing. They really needed this game, and Josh Hart stepped up. If I'm not mistaken, the last game he played, he only had but two, maybe three points, or something like that for the fact that he was able to step up and hit those big shots when they needed it most. And I think the Celtics did a good job getting the ball out of Brunson's hands. And like Uncle said, if other players, the supporting cast for the Nick's and gonna hit those shots, you just gonna have to be able to live with that. But when you look at it, Uncle Ocho, Boston didn't really shoot the ball great outside of, what's his name, Schadenheimer? Schadenheimer, coming off the bench. He was Ocho, he was unconscious and Peyton Pritchett shot 50%, but Tatum 7 for 22. And when you look at the Nick's, man, they were, I mean, they shot the cover off the ball. Brunson shot it with 54%. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so, you know, it ain't gonna be many games that Josh Hart gonna lead them Nick's in scoring. Matter of fact, this might have been the only game he had done it all season if we just keep it 100, you know what I mean? So, yeah. Boston is in a good spot, man. They in a good spot. They ain't worried about nothing. They sitting comfortable, comfortably. And when they get healthy, going into the post-season, you don't wanna see them bored, man. I think when you look at the bench points, they got 53 points from the bench points than they did. You look at Shimon, he had 27 of eight from the floor, six of seven from three. You look at Pritchett, 10 of 20 from the floor, three of eight from three. Boosovitch, four of seven from the floor, two of four from three. I think they're gonna need a little bit more from Derek White. The last couple of games, Joe, he's kind of been hit or miss. He's been quiet. And when he's in double figures, because you know what JB and JT gonna give you on a family basis. You know Pritchett what he's gonna give you. He's averaging 16 points, basically 17 points a game, whether he's in the starting lineup or he's coming off the bench. So I'm penciling in him somewhere between 15 and 20 points. That's what I'm penciling Pritchett in for. If he gives me more than that, I love it. I'm not counting on him giving me less than 15, but if he gives me more than 20, I'll graciously accept it. But somewhere in that 15 to 20 ballpark, that's normally what he does. Now, my big guns, I'm gonna need those guys to go off on a consistent basis. One or the other, I love to have both of them doing it. But Howzer didn't shoot the ball well tonight. Like you said, I'm not counting on shot, but he can let it go now. I don't know how many games you watched him, but that left handed Joker can let the ball fly. He look good tonight, I'm talking about. I mean, he would come, hey, Joe, he would let that fan go and turn around to the crowd. He's got you again. Hey, look, look, you know, playing in New York, that's like playing in LA, like guys get up for those games. You know what I'm saying? Like they look the best out of you. And you can tell tonight he got it going and he started talking to the crowd. He really started feeling himself. And it was fun to watch him, you know, get on a heater like that. And I'm like, man, listen, if he can get him some consistency like this, I ain't saying he gonna go six for seven from the field and be that efficient. But man, if you can be a reliable guy, we can go to when JB or JT getting double team, you know, down the stretch or just throughout the game, I think he can definitely be beneficial for the Celtics. Yeah, but that's the thing. They're benching outstanding because normally you'll probably, I mean, how's somebody's gonna be coming off the bench. You know, Pritchett is coming off the bench. You know, Sharmin is coming off the bench. And you know, both of these guys can get on heaters. Pritchett can do it all. Pritchett's drive the ball, he got a light, many, hey, he put the shoulder until you bump. He can snatch, he can shoot the three ball. He's great in all aspects. Sharmin is looking to shoot the three ball. How's he's looking to shoot the three ball? Although how's, we saw how's the other night, he put the ball in the four and got to the midi. He was letting it go. But when those big two, I believe if everybody plays their best basketball in the Eastern Conference, if everybody plays to their capabilities, I don't believe a team can beat the Bar and the Celtics. That's just me, Joe. You might think Detroit can do it. You might think the Knick can do it. You think the Cavaliers. Now I don't think there are no unbeatables in the Eastern Conference. I don't think, I don't think Boston's unbeatable. I don't think Detroit's unbeatable. I don't think the Cavs are unbeatable. I don't think the Knicks are unbeatable. Okay, I just wanted you to clarify that. You said nobody can beat the Boston Celtics when they're on full field. I think if everybody plays their A game. Out of the East, you meant? Yes, out of the East. Okay, okay, okay. I think if everybody plays their A game in the Eastern Conference, I think Boston's the best team in the Eastern Conference. That's just me, Joe. What do you think, Joe? I totally agree with you now. If Tatum wasn't back, I wouldn't say that. But since Tatum has came back, and obviously it was question marks because we didn't know how he was gonna look coming back, you know, in such a short time and in such a short stint. Go ahead, Joe, what you got? Hold on, hold on, Uncle Joe. You heard what y'all just said? What? Y'all said if Tatum didn't come back, y'all wouldn't still feel the same way about the Celtics. No, I wouldn't. No, because everybody else got two guys that can go off. You still got Brunson and Kat can go off. You got Harden and you got Donovan Mitchell can go off. You got Kade Cunningham and you got Durin can go off. I know those are guys that have been all stars, that have been all NBA selection players. With Jason Tatum back, now you got JV and JT. Both guys have been Eastern Conference MVPs. JV has been MVP in the finals. And you have guys, those role players. Now, I believe the Boston Celtics have the deepest bench. Oh, no, correct. When you look at what they have, they got Pritchard, they got Shaman, and they got other guys. I think they have the best bench. And those two proven guys, JV and JT are the most proven, come playoff time based on what they've done, getting to a NBA finals and winning an NBA finals. Okay, but I have a question, Uncle Joe. Listen, before JT came back, let's look at what the Celtics were. We're just Jalen Brown at the helm, holding the ship, steering the ship, keeping that ship afloat. Before Jason Tatum came back, the guys themselves were still second in the league. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you still, you still don't have confidence in them, still being able to come out to East. If they were already second and Jason Tatum won the league? Yeah, I saw him last year, there was number one seed. And got what happened with JV and JT and what happened? They was looted and people look at like, when JT went down, they was getting smoked before he got wet now. The Knicks was kicking ass. And when you look at it, Ocho, if you just got JV out there by himself with no Tatum, man, you can kinda, you can kinda, yeah, you can load up and control the game, double him on pick and rolls, double him when he crawls half court and make these other guys beat you. Now, when you got two guys who could go for 40, 50 points on any given night, now you got your hands full. You know what I mean? He got plenty of help. And you know, JV a two-way player, bro. So he gonna expand a lot of energy on both hands through the court. Energy on both hands, yeah. He ain't gonna, his game ain't just predicated off making shots. You know what I'm saying? He gonna be disruptive defensively. He gonna be in a pass lane. He gonna get steals. He gonna pick you up full court. But he can only do all of that if he has another counterpart who he know he can rely on with your Jason Tatum. Somebody that can help you load on off him. Yeah, you go, right. Because you gotta realize, if they're playing Cleveland, he's gonna have to take James Harden to Donald Mitchell. Jerry White's gonna take the other, but he's gotta take one of those guys. I think, I think. He's probably gonna have to, do they put the question is, do they put him on K? Or do they put JV on K? I think they, I mean, Derek White, so he's gonna have to do something with one of those. And so when you dealing with, and Brunson, you'd probably put Derek White on Brunson to try to tire him down, but you'll probably have to miss, do some different things. Because I think the thing, once you get to this level, those guys, you can't give a guy a steady diet of anything. It's like medicine. If you continuously take a dose of medicine, you'll build up a resistance to it. And you gotta take strong and stronger doses of it. If you throw these great players, a continuous same look and have a guard, guard them the same way, these guys too good. And just like a guy with laughs up like the Ray, we played a Ray to the Oak, a Ray to the Kansas City. You already know what they gonna do, what they gonna do, Ocho. Right here in your face, man, man, they ain't going to the hotel. They ain't going to the hotel. Like, bro, you show them that's at the hotel, they telling you the defense. They like, nah, I didn't mean to do you. I got you and he got him. They claim you man football, Joe. You got that man. Hey, look, but you know, that's how JV gonna play. If they play against Cleveland, he gonna guard James Harden. He gonna pick him up full court, kind of like he did Luca in the finals a year and kind of wear him down. Yes. You know what I mean? JV understands, he understands his road to the tee, bro. He know offensively, you know, he gonna get you to work from 22, 35 a night. That's just, I know it's a big gap, but by anywhere from 22 to 35 a night, but he's also gonna make it hell on one of your toughest offensive players. You know, meaning picking them up full court the whole game and then by the fourth quarter, hopefully he didn't die down a little bit. You don't want him out. So, Boston got a good strategy, bro. I like Boston, we'll take them back, looking the way he's looking. You, you, but that's the luxury of having Joe two guys. Because if you go back and look at the Bulls, what did they have? They had a six foot seven long arm defender that could guard anybody from Magic to Isaiah, to Gary Payton, to Kevin Johnson. It did not matter. If so, Clyde Drexler. So, Jordan could take somewhat of a break on defense. Kobe, who did he have? He had Bichon, he had Rick Fox, he had Metta. LeBron, he had Shane Badiere, or he had Richard Jefferson, or he had JR. So, when you have someone that's like, okay, they got defenders over there. Now, there have been times that look, he just had to deal with AD. He had to deal, he had some point in time in the fourth quarter, he got to deal with KD, or some point in time in the fourth quarter, he got to deal with Kauai. That's just the way it is. When the rubber needs to meet the road, hey, I appreciate what y'all been doing. Thank you very much, but I'm gonna leave it from here. Yeah. And I think that's the luxury that the Celtics have, that very few teams have. I mean, they got guys that can score, but you got a Derek White and you got a JB that has no problem taking the tough defensive assignment because they understand, let me put do all we can, and they'll trade off. Hey, you see Derek White try to deal with Harden. You'll see JB try to slow down Mitch, and vice versa, to keep him giving them different looks. Hey, guess what? We're traveling, we're blushing, we wanna get the ball out. Hey, we gonna make it swing. Yeah. But it's gonna be a great matchup to see what, I'm gonna see how this thing shakes out when it's all said and done, because we kinda know like the top four, we'll see what Orlando can do, we'll see what Toronto can do, and see how this thing plays out to the bottom. I think this year, I would have a little bit more confidence had Van Carrol played a little bit better, and they had Wagner throughout the entirety of the season, but they haven't, they kinda been up and down all year long. Toronto's kinda been the same. Toronto's gone on a stretch where they won six, seven games in a row, and then all of a sudden they fall by the wayside, but they still got BI, they got Scarty Barnes, they got guys that can do a little something, but I still say, if everybody plays their A game, I think Boston's the best team. You're right. I mean, even if you look back on those Bulls teams, especially in 91, is that when they played the Lakers Magic Nails? In the finals? Yeah. If you go back, Ocho, and you watched the Bulls in 91 when they played the Lakers in the finals, watch how Jordan and Scotty Pippen guarded Magic Johnson, bro. They picked him up full court and they made, they wore him down, bro. And that's the same thing that Boster has right now with Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum. You know what I'm saying? They understand they roll, they understand they both pack a punch offensively, but defensively is what they gotta hang. They hadn't worked ultimately. You know, they gonna be able to win ball games because if I'm scoring 30 and I'm giving up 30, hell, that's a watch. You know what I mean? That ain't what they want. That ain't what they want. Well, if you remember, Joe, in game one, Jordan tried to guard Magic. They won, they won game one, the Lakers won game one. Then they'll put Magic, put on Pippen, on Magic. And Magic and Pippen picked him up full court because now we got somebody that's six foot seven, that's long limb. See, if Athletic is Jordan Nails, you gotta realize Magic's still six nine. And Magic had to be, at that point in time, Magic had developed that baby style. So now he gets you down on the block. You had his mercy. He's going to. You had his mercy. And they still had big game James Worthy. So it was, it was, and they's like, you know what, hey, Scotty, because Scotty didn't realize that he wasn't gonna have to have to handle the offensive low. You're asking Jordan to exert a lot to take their best player on one end while still giving you the same production on the other end. Yeah. That's, that's, that's, that's it all. It is, it is. Those guys were determined back then, man. They was going to make it happen. It was going to do whatever they had to. But sure. And then, and then, you know, you had Ron, no, Ron was in the second one, but you had two grand. So you had another defender. And so that's what normally the really good teams do. They have multiple defenders. That's what makes OKC so good. They've got three, four, five wing defenders that they can throw at you. They just keep running them. They just keep running them at you. Hey, eventually you're gonna wear it out. Ain't no way you gonna be the same all day. No, sir. You right. OKC, that's, that's definitely how they play. That's how they played over the past. I would probably say three years, arch and arch, they've been consistent. Yes. They've been consistent with that. Although those guys can score the ball, they know in order for them to win, man, they got to sit in their chair and guard that ball, you know. And, and they do it, they do it with the best of them. Kevin Durant scored 29 points as the Rockets beat the 76ers, 113 to 102 for the eight straight win. Filly was missing Joel Embiid after he had an appendectomy. The 76ers, who was fighting for a playoff spot, will be without Embiid indefinitely. He had surgery in Houston on Thursday after being stricken with a appendicitis overnight. The 66ers have lost three straight and dropped into a tie with Charlotte for the eighth seed in the easy game. Joel Embiid is just saying, you know what? He might as well just call him Slap Rock. I don't know if y'all remember the cartoon Slap Rock where every time you come around, bad stuff just start happening. Yeah. Hey, hey, that appendectomy, that's not, that's not, you're not out that long with that though, huh? Yeah, you are there for a minute, boy, they got to go inside and get them things up. Damn. That's your appendicitis. Yeah. They open you up, Ocho. Yeah, I know they open you up, but I'm just saying the time that he has to miss, obviously he'll be back. Obviously he'll be back. It's not, I mean not too long. Maybe I'm probably weak. Okay, that's not bad, that's not bad. That's not bad. I live longer, longer than it's not a significant amount of time, especially with him, you know, getting ready for the playoffs. I think the thing you're going to go, Ocho, is that, and Joe, is that seemed like every time this time of year is something. Yeah. You remember last year it was his knee, and it's been his knee, and it's been his back, and it's been his ankle. And like I said, I've never seen anybody with, the only people that I've seen with more stomach issues than Joe Ellen Beaters' babies. I ain't never seen nobody have issues like him. It's something, I don't know what's going on, and I'm saying that tongue in cheek, but he's had issues with his stomach before, and then decided there's nothing you can do. I heard it's very painful from people that've had it. It's like, oh, bro, they got you, hey, if they have you doubled up, and clearly you do emergency surgery, but it's just like, it's one thing after another. I don't know, I'm trying to think that the time, maybe once in his career, that he's entered the post-season, and he's been healthy. In his career, and he's been in the league 10 years. One time, of all those years, cause we see what, boy, when he's healthy the regular season, that joke alone. He had a deal with, wait. That joke alone. Hold on, has there been a season, if he's been in the league 10 years, I'm not sure how many years he's been in the league. Has he had a complete season, we've been able to play 82 game season, or has he been healthy? No, he ain't gonna play 82 game, and he ain't gonna ever play 82 game. Because of the size. There was a couple of seasons, oh Joe, where, and Joe, when you remember that he was having MVP caliber of year, he ain't no winning one, that he was playing probably 68, 70 games. Okay, okay, okay. But then come playoff time. Ne, cause remember last year, he was like, what was it, last year? Or two years ago, that he was like, barely get, that might've been, was that last year? Might've been last year. Might've been, or two years ago, that he was like, 30, looked like he was about 40 years in. But when he's, look, when he's healthy, and that's a big win, and that's probably why, you know, they haven't enjoyed the success that they wanted to have. Even when Harden was there, because he couldn't stay healthy. And then when it had been Semencey had some issues, and then Ben had the issue with the Hawks, and they had the issue with the Hawks, and they ended up losing to the Hawks in seven games. And I said that, they're never gonna be the same. It's over for them. They're gonna break that team up. I said, Joel and Ben Semencey, come on. For Doc to say what he said, and for Joel to say what he said, he was like, I said it, I said, oh man, you don't know what you're talking about. I said, okay. And then Philly, Philly, you know, you know how internet is, oh, Joel and Joel. Man, they had a trash can going down, it was flooded, and there was a trash can, and people talking about this Ben Semencey. I said, oh yeah, it's definitely over now. That's how it ends the baby. And you got to trust the process. The process over with, here you talking about. That process is over. Hey listen, and this is what I'm talking about. This is what I'm talking about though, when MB don't play, you look at Max and Edge comb numbers, they be totally different, bro. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. MB is a ball stopper, okay, oh, it's your meaning. There is not a lot of movement. He, yeah, he gonna get you 25, 35 points a night, but the rest of these dudes around them, they ain't gonna really be doing a whole lot. You know what I mean? Because he's so stagnant, and offensively, and there's no rhythm, there's no flow. So, you know, you got a rookie like Edge comb, who thrives in transition, you ain't gonna get many transition buckets, bro. You know what I mean? Because, you saying MB taking up space? I'm saying because he's so ball dominant, when the ball gets in his hands, it stops. It don't move. You know, he ain't moving around, setting too many picks and rolling. You know what I mean? It's just not a lot of flow and rhythm in the game. So it hurts everybody else around him. Yeah, he can score in a half court set. You know, that's what he do. But you know, the glaring thing is, he doesn't give you much defensively. You know what I mean? He's spending all his energy on the offensive end. You know, letting you know that, look, I can still get 30 at night, you know, and we know that, but defensively, you don't see a whole lot of shot blocking from him. You don't see a whole lot of great defense, and that's kind of got Philly behind the eight ball. So I don't expect much from Philly. I'm gonna be honest with y'all, they're gonna be a first round ignorant. And what, you know what I get the question? Because they're in the playing. Go ahead, Joe. Now I'm gonna say, why are we on the top of MVP, right? That year he won MVP. Who was the other person that went right behind? Who was run up? If I'm not mistaken. If Yoko was just running up, right? And think about Joe, think about all the things you just said about everything becoming stagnant offensively when MVP is playing, right? So when you look at Joker, when he plays, what's the difference in what Joker does and what him B does being that he's a defensive liability as well, because still put up 30. You don't see them assist number, Yoko's got. Okay, so obviously he's not the passer. He's not the passer that Yoko did. Yoko is, if he asks me, he's a pass first center. Who can score? He's a looking score. You know, okay, boom, he ain't open on the cut. Y'all playing me one on one, okay, cool. I'm just gonna go for 50 tonight. Don't even worry about that. You know what I mean? I think Yoko's IQ for the game, Ocho is just, it's much better. Hey, hold on. Hey, Yoko's IQ for the game is basically like LeBron. Yeah, correct. Yeah. Yeah. Because when you come with the double team, he knows where you come. Depending on who comes, he knows where he's supposed to be. Yeah. So his man is open. That's why he throws so many passes behind his head because he knows the man came from the weak side. Right. So he knows that whoever's in the dunker spot with his, with Kristen Brown, or whether it's Gordon, or whether it's Strauber, or whether it's Peyton Watson, he knows they're there. So I can go behind my back because I know somebody's feeling from the dunk. Yeah, and it's just, he gets that ball at the nail. He knows you can't come double him. If you do come double him, you double somebody in the middle of the court? Are you crazy? Yeah, yeah. You can't do that. They give him both fights. Yeah, and that's just, that's just having a great feel for the game, fellas. You know, knowing, knowing exactly where your guys are supposed to be at at all times. That's what a point guard does. Your center, your center never really, who never really operates like that. This is why Yoke is just so great. It ain't, it ain't, you know, he gonna put up a triple double. It's cause he gonna, you know, he gonna do what he can. I mean, he gonna score the ball if he had to score it that night. If he need to get 20 assists, hell, he gonna do that. If he need to get 20 rebounds, he gonna do that. He gonna do whatever it takes for them to win. And that's why they've been successful. And that's what makes him so unique. He's about to lead the league in rebounding and assists. And you might not ever see it again. Cause normally if when, when guys lead, most of the time when guys obviously lead the league in assists, it's hard to ask a guard to lead the league in rebounding. So think about it. Now you got a center that's leading the league in rebounding and he's gonna lead the league in assists. Trends come and go. Your skin barrier doesn't. E45 lotion is effective science backed hydration for everyday use. Lightweight, fast absorbing and trusted to do what your skin needs. No fuss, no compromise. Just soft, smooth, healthy looking skin every day. Grab your E45 lotion now. All right, we got a very special guest joining us. He's a six foot two, 326 pound projected first round pick, a unanimous All-American, a Big 10 dispensers lineman of the year, Outland trophy finalists, a first team, all Big 10, two times academic all Big 10. Here he is, Kayden MacDonald. Kayden, what's going on, bro? Man, what are you doing? What's happening? Man, man, thank you for joining us, bro. Kayden, Kayden, what's good, what? Man, we here man, Ocho, man, the gold. Hey, Joseph. Man, what's up? Joe from Arkansas, man, I'm from Arkansas too, man. Yeah, what's happening, bro? Hey, then you grow up here in Atlanta, though? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was from Texas, I came to the home, born in Texas, I came in. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, I know something about you, boy, you good people as your man. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got one question, Joe, man, why I couldn't get an NBA championship, man? What you mean? Why, for the Hawks, man, I grew up a Hawks man, like I couldn't get one. Man, come on, come on, come on, don't act like that now, don't act like that. Hey, we gonna, hey, I'm gonna make sure they get one here soon, though, don't even worry about that. Yeah. What high school did you go to? I went to North Gounet, you know, Sawani, Gounet County got the best football, so all the dogs come out there. Okay. Yeah. They have, Gounet County has really, they've really built up all those schools out there because they've really gotten, and now you got Buford out there, you got all those big time schools out there. Wait, wait, wait. Because it used to be South, it used to be the Val Dostos, the Tiff Counties, the Warner Robins, all those schools were big. Now y'all just took Lowns County, you got to take over now. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Kayden has said some dogs come out of there. I need to hear names of some of the dogs that came out of that school. Oh, we got, so we're gonna start, we're gonna go old school, we're gonna go CJ O'Zuma. New school, we had Josh Downs, Barry Carter. Okay, okay. Big bro, Jaden McDonald, man, all America. That my big bro. Okay, yeah, yeah, but, yeah, wait, all them from Atlanta? Well, the whole Gwinnett County, we got Caleb Downs, Travis Hunter, all them boys. Ooh. Yeah, okay. I ain't know that, I ain't know that. I like that, I like that. You know. All right. What, what, what clicked for you this year? You're all American, obviously, 362, 326 pounds. You can do a lot, get your twitchy, can collapse the pocket, can rush the quarterback, can stop the run. What clicked for you this year? What wasn't about this year? You say, you know what? I got all this, you put it together. So make a long story short, you put it together. What clicked? And I'll just say man, opportunity. I got a chance to know, make something happen. No, I had like 13 games, every play I treated like opportunity. You know, one day I wanna be on that cover. So it's just like, it's that mentality. I'm on the field, you know, I got the black face going, you know, I'm on it, yeah, I'm all the way in it. Lost then. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Hey, so far, right? Obviously having a great season this year with Ohio State, the process, obviously your childhood dream is wanting to make it to the NFL. How's the process been so far? Has it been everything you dreamed of to date that you thought it would be before you even made it? But I'll just say, yeah, for sure, man. You know, when you were a kid, especially coming from Arkansas, ain't nothing but one gas station. You don't know, you know, growing up, man. You know, it's a dream come true. You know, I ain't never dreamed about this when I was a kid, you know, he was just living. No, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know, growing up, man, it was just, we played ball, no, I've been playing since I was four. So, man, this has been my life, you know. Hey, hey, hey, tell me something. What's your plans for the draft, man? You playing on going down to Pittsburgh for the draft? Like, man, I'm looking at that big Cuban on, I got my little one on right now, but. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm popping it, yeah. Put that thing on. Hey, whole family gonna be done. What kind of watch you gonna have on? What kind of watch you gonna be wearing? Two-tone AP. Oh! Woo-hoo! Two-tone AP! Oh, man! Woo-hoo! Oh, man! Damn! Hey, oh, hey, that boy got money, two-tone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he said he got the big Cubana. He said, hey, yo, now, the big Cubana. He said, yeah, that's gonna be Cubana with his thing, I like it. Listen, I got one more question. I got one more question. Obviously, there are certain players that you watch at the next level. I'm sure there's some players that you aspire to be like, or that you look up to. Who do you can pay your playing style to? And who are players in NFL right now that you look up to and say, you know what, I want to make my mark or leave my mark like they did? I'm like, so I'll be like, you feel me? I like physical defense, the tackles, man. Yes, I'll. Me? I don't really. I look at other NFL players, but no, my game is special. Like you see me on the field making these plays. You know, I had 65 tackles from the head of nose position. Ain't nobody doing that. Yeah, I'm trying to make my own mark. You feel me? Yeah, but I'll say like, man, Aaron Donald, Cam Hayward, you know, he came out of P.C. Ridge. That's that's who I was going to say probably Cam Hayward, because he's a guy that plays like he can play the he can play the till he can play the under most of the time he lines up. He's the can be the three. I mean, the head of the nose, he can be the three. He can be the five. It could be the defensive end. He's multiple, but he's. Hey, I got a question. Hey, I got a question for you. Hey, what's your superstition on like the game day? Like, what's one thing you got to do on the game day that you ain't changed? Oh, man, I was very superstitious. And once I started this, even when I went to Baltimore, uh, the trainers, I told the trainers, obviously I have my pad, you know, double sided tape on my pad. That's in there in my locker. I need three packs of big red. I need a product like six. Oh my God. First up, ain't you? I need three. I need three. I need three blue bear cake donuts. I need long. I need long linemen socks that I'm going to get. Take out my locker and I'm going to go give them back to the equipment guy and get running back. I get tape. I get a regular routine tape job to go out there and then I come back in and I get retaked again, but I get it taped to my skin. Yeah. Um, I do the same thing. Oh, you know, uh, I go stand on the road, Kate, I would go stand. I would press the elevator and I would go stand in front of the elevator door that I thought was going to open and I had to do that until I got it right. So if it's three, four elevators, I'm going to press it and I'm going to stand in front of one that I think is going to open. It was that door open and I'm standing in front of. Oh, there's that we play in trouble. Yeah, I already know what you was on. Give them that work. Kate, you had superstitions. You had a routine that you follow. Yeah. Oh, no, I just know my superstition, like now I was big in my face. So like every before before every game, no, I just open up the Bible. I'll pray first and like whatever scripture comes up. No, I'll just read it and like, yeah, it's like, it's a different. It's a different meaning like to me when I read and I read in like just words and like just words like strength, you know, God got you things like that. Yeah, like it always comes for tuition like in real life. And like I just forever been doing it. You know, yeah, it is so far Ohio State. That's what why Ohio what's up? You got Georgia. You got bad, but you got all those schools and you go you leave Georgia. I mean, you leave the A and go way to Ohio. And you know, this way this draft, man, we got five. Guys in the first round, man. Oh, no, I got to give a special shout out to all the five. And we got Caleb, man. If you hear Cardinal Arvell, Sonny, the boys, man, the boys, some dogs. But we developed, man. It's a real development. Yeah, you know, prepare you every day. You train like a pro, no nutrition. You got to be like a pro. You got to be accountable every day on and off the field. I like that. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. You said you said one word. You said I heard I heard a word that I hear all the time. You said nutrition. Now, when it comes to nutrition, what would you die look like? What would you eat? What they telling you to eat? Like I said, man, I'm big in that seafood, man. I'm a seafood secret. No, hey, I'm a big salmon guy. I love Mr. Salmon, especially I'm superstitious. Now eat the same thing the whole week. Now on the Tuesday, I go salmon. Wednesday, Chipotle Thursday. We got to go. We got to go big man. Set up McDonald's. Oh, we got to go. That's what I'm talking about. And you know what? See, see, simply just because that I'm telling you right now, I'm telling you right now, boy, you're going to be great. You're going to be great for the simple fact. Hey, listen, you you not you eating healthy, but obviously you you you you going you going other places too. Like, you know, McDonald's was me. I was I wasn't superstitious, but I had McDonald's every game. I still eat today. And I think that's the reason for my success. You you don't get hurt often. You know why you don't get hurt hurt often? It ain't the salmon. It's not your nutritionist. It's the fact that you eat Big Macs. That's what it is. Hey, hey, hey, hey, man. Hey, man. Yeah, how much you weigh, bro? Three what? Like three twenty five right now. Solid. Oh, that's like that's like when I watch you on the field, though, you sold nimble, so you carry that weight so well. How's your training regimen? Like, how you getting them? Like, it's football, the only sport you ever played. Bro, man, you got to you got to really look me up. You got to do your research, man. I've been hooping since I was five, man. Yeah, I really wanted to become who I really wanted to become like you, man. I used to go to the game. I see Joe Johnson. You feel me, Mike, baby Jamal Crawford. Man, yeah, all that. But now I play. I was a multi sport athlete. You know, in high school, I played running back. I had like five hundred yards, 12 touchdowns. Now the dollar. Damn, OK. Oh, you told that. Oh, yeah. Being home. Yeah, for sure. But see, you see what happened, Kate? When you start eating a Big Mac, you grew out of running back position. See, if you gave up the Big Macs that kept eating salmon, you'd have been a running back. You'd have been your beer games. You'd have been there. And what will be my nickname if I was a running back? Well, they call you Big Mac. Big Mac. Yeah. You could you be running over. Yeah. Your name be Big Mac. You'd have been running. You'd have been a. Hey, so what position you playing basketball with? You the point, you the center, you. Hey, you too. I did it out, man. I'm like point guard, man. I got to facilitate the offense, man. Run through me. Oh, you got to run through me. OK. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Could you dunk? No, I was a floater. I'm floaters. There you go. Oh, you are. You let the ball go and take over. Yeah. I like it. I like it. So, I mean, obviously, as Ocho asked you to say, you know, this was a lifelong dream. You grew up, you know, playing in Texas, our cannon later moving to Atlanta and then playing the game of football. You played at JV, Pop Warner, JV, high school football, college football. Now, everything that you had is right there. You were with two weeks. We're basically with two weeks away. Yeah. We're two weeks away from the draft, two weeks. And everything that you had hoped for and your dreamed about, you prayed about, you said your man of faith, it is about to happen. Have you thought about in that moment? Are you going to get emotional? Are you going to think, you know, like, damn, mom, we did it, bro. So we hear that. And I think about that every day. This game closer. We two weeks away. No, just like the whole life, my whole life, man. I just I felt like the underdog. And, you know, I finally get to celebrate with the people that's the closest to me. You know, mama, no mama, no, I got big bro, sister, auntie, all the family from Arkansas coming. Yeah. No, so my best friends from Georgia know it's going to be it's going to be a good night. And just all the work I put in, it's a lot of sacrifices you got to make. I know as a kid, like back at home, that's looking up to me. So, you know, I got to make that happen so they can do the same thing I'm doing. And that's my motivation. That's what's up. Hey, hey, Kate, man, one thing I'm going to tell you, bro. I know you probably working your butt off right now because, you know, you you you about to, you know, approach a lifelong dream. The one thing I'm going to tell you, bro, keep that keep that dog mentality. Even even when you get drafted, even when you get that, like, never let your foot up. You know what I mean? Keep working hard, bro. And I always remember, you know, never lose that discipline that you have now, you know, the workouts that you got to go through how you eat. Man, when you get in the NFL, bro, don't let up, bro. Don't let up. For sure. You you see that hunger because a lot of times what happened is that they OK, my lifelong dream would get to the NFL. What not? So because you this is not this is not the destination. This is the journey. Your destination is once you're done with your career. So that same drive and determination that you got up every and train for in high school and what you did in college because the Skyler reports that you're a striker, which lets me know you great with your hands and you're like, I'm physical. And the one thing I know about Matt Patricia, and he knows how to cover it with the run game, you got to be great with your hand. That's what I'm trying to go. So get up on the you try to get up on the line back. Right here. Yeah, Coach Matt Patricia. You know, he put a lot on my back this year. And there's one thing he always be telling me, be strong in the middle. And that's where it starts. And that's where it's going. That's where it's going in. Everything I just took it personal. Each game. You know, now we're here draft. So it's a blessing. No, yeah, you go. You're going to be all right. You know, I know you're going to be right because I ask you who you can pay yourself to who is the people that you know you inspire to be like. And you said nobody do it like you. You said nobody do it like you that let me know you going in with the right mentality, the right mindset, and you can make on your name for yourself. So go in there, call some goddamn havoc. Talk a little shit too. Don't be scared to talk no shit. Talk a little shit too. Let him know you here. You know, I've arrived. So man, I wish you nothing but success, young boy. And maybe shoot, we might end up in Cincinnati. Well, it looks like the Bears, the Vikings, Buffalo, Houston and Pittsburgh have all been labeled possible land. Where you get that from? Their preference. Are you just where you get that from? My source. But don't worry about it. You say, do I do my homework? Do I? My source. My source. My you tell us you do our homework. We do our homework. Yeah. Oh, so so you don't you don't bend to a few of these places. Yeah, I've been to a couple. No, I met with pretty much every team, you know. Yeah. You met with Cincinnati. On Monday, I am. Yeah, it's a beautiful place over there. I'm in Falksboro right now. Yeah. OK, OK, OK. So let me ask you this. OK, they come in and they say, you know what, hey, Mac, Big Mac. What type of player we get? Tell me, I'm a GM. I'm in charge of personnel and I'm doing all the high and I'm doing all the draft and I come in and sit down and I say, hey, Tim, what type of player we get? Something like three words, man. They want impact. They want impact. Yeah. That's it. They want impact. That's all I that's what I that's what I really say to the GM's. And they know for sure. Hey, hey, hey. Cut the tape on. That's it. There's another three words. Cut the tape. Tell me what you see. Tell me what you see. When you see me. Tell them what you see. You know, you don't have to say too much. You don't gotta tell them a story. They already know who you is. They already did their background check on you. Right. So you can't lie to them, and they just tell them straight up. That's how I be, you know? Yeah. They know everything about you. They know your favorite food. They know where you like to hang out at. They know where you like to shop at. They know your dessert. They know, they already know. Oh yeah, you got your Nazi. You got your nice little car. You got your little car. Hey, what y'all draw right now? Joe, what you draw right now, man? I know you got some. Man, I ain't got, but I got a Range Rover, bro. Oh, that's smooth. What about you, huh? Man, you know, I'm old. I got a 2012 Range Rover and a 20 and a two. I got a 2020, a 750 BMW. I got an electric BMW, and I got that ghost Hellcat. Oh, Joe, I'm a toy. Oh, Joe, what you got? Oh, Joe. Cybertruck, Tesla, McLaren 720p Lamborghini. Yeah, yeah. My smart car. And shoot, that's that's it. I just, I just, any old me limb, any little, any little limb, a limb, a limb, a limb, K. And he got all them cars. And oh, man, he don't pay no debt, K. Now, I just bought my daughter, I just bought my daughter a Tesla two days ago. So she happy. She, she hype. You know what I'm saying? He do it all this stuff. Hey, look, man, what you do? What you do? I mean, you have a little somebody some money. And every time you see him, he got on fresh. He got a new chain. He got a new, he got a new, he got a new car. He got on some new kids. Bro, I be seeing, bro. I just be crazy to me like, damn, you owe me that, honey. Man, I just, I see you with some new pants. Like, come on now. Man, just give me my honey back first. You know what's going to come back to? Nah, but hey, K. Mac, K. Mac, this is what you don't understand, right? For, for Unk's sake, I owe him 11,000, right? But that's for emergency purposes only. So if you need it, just, just hit the glass and then boom. I'm gonna hit him with no need. He been hitting the glass. Yeah. Nah, he good. He good. He got, he got by 70, he just named 17 cars. What he need by 11,000 for? Hey, hey, my back. He buying chrome hearts. You know chrome hearts ain't cheap. He buying chrome hearts. He buying LV. He got Burberry. He got all that stuff. Hey, see, hey K. Mac, this what he don't understand. I go to the boosters now and he in Miami. I don't pay full price for nothing. They said they come to the barber shop. They come to the car shop. They said everything, hey. Well, booze my limb K. Hey, hey, hey K. Mac. Look, on nightcap, bro, we, we be looking for hidden talents. And I heard, I heard that you're supposed to be five. You can make some five pancakes, boy. You put it down like that. I can put it down, man. Hey, man, I got that flick of that wrist, man. What? Hey, some room. Hey, so you a chef too? Man, I do it all, man. Whatever you need. What you need me to cook for you, man? When I come see you, man. Oh, you on that grill? Hold on. Hey, Mac, you on the grill like that? On the top of steak, how you want it cooked? Man, stop playing. I'm playing. Hey, you know, hey, you know, you know how to cook the, you know, you know how to cook the wagon steak? Easy. Easy. Yeah. You know. Hey, I'm gonna, hey, I like, I ain't gonna lie. I like, I like going out. Y'all like mad strokes, man. What's y'all steak? Y'all do the steak house, y'all. What y'all know? Oh, you have mad strokes. Butter cake, butter cake. Every time. That butter cake like that, ain't it? So let me ask you this. You got a lady, man? I don't got no lady right now. Nah. I was gonna say, if you had, if, because, okay, let's just say you, you meet this lady and you, you kick it and you want to, you want to bring her over and you want to cook a meal for her. What you cooking? What you dropping on the table? Um, man, first of all, like I said, I'm just gonna, we're gonna go salmon. We're gonna go salmon, salmon, green beans and rice, man. We're gonna have to keep it, you know, healthy. You got to, y'all don't do too much. Hey, hey, hey, hey. What you doing for dessert though? Zahl Zahl Zahl Zahl Zahl Zahl Zahl Zahl Zahl Zahl Zahl Zahl Zahl Ain't nobody even said Hold on came back it came back check me out right listen, you know, I'm dying in Miami, right? And you know, I know a lot whole lot of people right so if if if you need if you need looking for you know A wife a girlfriend or something. I got some eligible people came back. They're like I can put you a line Ton of vision baby boy. Hey, I was waiting on you to say that We ain't we ain't said nothing about talking about look here. Hey man. Hey man. We've been a little american dream. You hear me? Anything right there's here ton of vision. That's what we got everything over here. Man. I'm just distraction homie Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Mack. I hear what he talking about. But listen, what's the american flag without the stars? Huh, you hear me? What's the american flag without the stars? What's the american flag without the stripes? I'll be talking about he talked about the american dream ain't no american dream without someone you Can't make trust me bro Trust you and you know what they read when they did the original american flag It only had 13 stars they added some more so you can add some girl once you get about three four five years in the league You can add some I'm listening to joe right now man You are So Man, hey, congratulations on all the success man. You got a great personality You're gonna be very successful in this league because you have what it takes You know what it takes you have that that discipline that physicality that desire to be great Yes, bro Hey, will you get drafted call call us up back up? We want to talk to you Hey, hey one more thing one more thing whenever you come back to Atlanta whenever you come to Atlanta come How let your boy? We do some hot yoga. I make sure I keep you right keep your nimble make sure you feel me All right, that's cool. That's cool. Yeah Yeah, I'm a I'm a I'm a come to That's cool. No a a a a mac mac. We mean joe get up. You get at your offline. Yeah talk to you later Yeah, I got you all man. Hey man. All right. Hey man. I gotta get some rest man. I gotta get up early man Do you think? All right, you know how it's gonna tap in already. All right. I write twin All right, check this out guys And 20 a Harris joel and beads Playoff injury history a 2018. He had an orbital fracture at the cushion 2019 he had an illness knee tendonitis 2020 covid bubble 2021 torn meniscus 2022 orbital fracture torn thumb ligament 2023 knee spraying 2024 bell palsy 2026 Deciders one week before the playoffs start 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 another 25 So basically eight or the nine years. He's had something going into the playoffs. Hey, hey, who the hell is bell palsy? It's a it's a it's a debilitating thing that calls sometimes you see it the mildly cruel right? Yeah, you know, okay. Yeah, okay. Okay. I think it's a new logical Uh stink had it marks loretta. Yeah, I think No, he has gillian boray. He had gillian boray. He didn't have bell palsy But sometimes you see guys in it. They they mouth be crook. It's almost like it's it reminds people of a symptom like a stroke You know, sometimes people have a stroke. Yes. Yeah speech or they have a Hand or something. It's kind of like that. Okay, but I don't think anybody's had That you've got buzzer. Man, it's unfortunate for him too, man because you know, it seemed like all this really really started happening after They MVP year two, uh, you know what I mean after this MVP year. It's like everything started going downhill for No, Joe. He was hurt before the MVP. Yeah, I know 2018. He had an orbital fracture In a concussion 2019. He had an illness in nits in the night is 2020 was the bubble 2021 he had a torn meniscus 2022. He had another orbital fracture and a torn thumb knee ligament 2023 he had a knee spring 2024 he had bell palsy 2026 he had appendicitis and So, I mean, he's been if you think about it, Joe think about coming out of college What was it? He'd have been the first pick in the draft if it's back if it's injuries wasn't the order Yeah, so normally when you come if you limp into a league You limp out of you limp out of you limp into the season You limp out of it because you know, Joe being injured during the season. It's hard to get healthy. It is It's hard because the games come too fast. You know what I mean? Especially basketball and football, you know, you make it nurture your injuries a little a little better But in basketball, hell if I'm playing four games and five nights Yeah, I'm probably gonna have to sit out one or two of them games To get yourself back right and That's crazy Man, it's it's tough. I look I dealt with injuries. I mean, I have I mean I played 14 years and you know had some success But Joe I missed in otu I missed 16 till I missed I missed 16 complete games. That's a season. Yeah That's a season Damn Man, that's unfortunate man. That that hurts that hurts Philly a lot, bro Because you know mb will be great in the postseason the playoffs because Yeah, of course that but without him they definitely got no chance Joe you said something very interesting you said like when joel and beaters out you look at maxi maxi you look at bj Yes, because he caught the lane up maxi can take you off the dribble, but joel and beat is right there Edge come has explosive and beat is right there The difference is if you if you notice they rarely if you look at where yokey just Yokey's post up at he always post up. He's either at the nail or at the top Because and even if he ever gets down on the block he's looking to go across court. He's looking You better not bring no double G money. He's looking to pass first. You're right Absolutely, Anthony Davis gave his mvp rankings. He said victor win ben yama, necola yokey Jaylen brown Shay gild just in that order in that joker. Hold on. That's what that's what give us at number four at number four Wait, who who was it? This is this is ant wimby as at one yokey is at two Jaylen brown is three. Shay is four Luca is five whose list was this on that's anthony davis 80. I think 80 uh, he going off the fact that san antonio has beat Uh, okay, see what three times this year? Yeah Yeah, because I can't see how he got wimby In front of shade. I don't know how you can have anybody in front of shade outside of yokey You might put yokey's up there because of the goddy numbers that he's putting up the nump. Yes outside of that Yeah, and he did a lot of this with no erin gordon and he had some of this without jimma murray And so that's why I would like I would like man Maybe you we should have Jaylen brown a little higher because he did the last year of his work without jt Yeah, yeah And if you go back and look at okc, they will still win it even without shade It ain't like they drop a like they drop like 10 games without jay So if I think when you look at it though okc has been the number one seed for the past three years fellas You know what I mean? So that's that's saying a lot. I know shay has missed some time and they still you know have put up winds but Man, they ain't going nowhere without shade bro. He he's gonna get them over the hump So I I think I give a little ish to shape because of the consistency that okc has played with over the years And obviously still being dominant, you know having the best record this season That means a lot winning means a lot Yes, it is showing that's the whole Hey, man winning ain't everything. Well, why the hell they keep score? Why they why they keep result if it ain't everything oh joe why they keep scoring in You tell me something they don't keep scoring You give earners report even in business. Don't you get an orange earners report? Yes, uh So they keep the score So that's why it's important everything is important I see the same thing on journey to my man race race race what everything's about race. Well, tell them to take it off every application Hey, I got everything I put out what they asked me the answer by male and female My ethnicity. Yeah. Yeah, so if it ain't important take it off. I have a question I I know you got I know you got a good rebuttal. What about the people who say money isn't everything? People that's people that don't have it It might not be but everything you need requires money Oh, that's a good one where you live it what you drive it what you eat You get injured medical. Yeah, of course Money is for freedom That's what money money buys you freedom That's what it is. Yep Allow you to take care of the people that you love Do things for them that if you didn't have it you wouldn't be uh, you wouldn't be able to do what you do You know what you're getting with a bank holiday weekend traffic drizzle service station snacks The sea look the sea pebbly beach Aggressive seagulls Drinks as a local cafe slash nightclub A late night takeaway chili garlic Sometimes in life you just know what you're getting like a luxury bed and a great night's sleep You know what you're getting with premier in