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Episode 5283: Battling Back Against The Islamification Of Texas; No Confidence In The 10 Point Plan

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Apr 8, 202610 days ago
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Summary

Episode 5283 focuses on two major geopolitical crises: ongoing Iran negotiations with ambiguous 10-point terms that may constitute surrender, and the fight against Islamic influence in Texas textbooks. Host Steve Bannon argues the real existential threats are AI regulation and internal cultural battles, not Middle East conflicts.

Insights
  • Iran's publicly stated 10-point negotiation framework appears designed for domestic propaganda rather than genuine diplomacy, creating uncertainty about actual U.S. negotiating position
  • The Strait of Hormuz toll-charging proposal would set a dangerous precedent for China and other adversaries to control international waterways, undermining 250+ years of U.S. naval doctrine
  • Texas textbook battles represent a microcosm of broader cultural sovereignty issues that Bannon frames as more strategically important than Middle East military engagement
  • AI safety and control by oligarchs is positioned as 100x more lethal than nuclear weapons but receives minimal policy attention due to opportunity cost of Middle East focus
  • Chinese Communist Party involvement in Iran negotiations suggests coordinated geopolitical strategy that should elevate Beijing talks above Pakistan intermediary discussions
Trends
Shift from military-centric to cultural-sovereignty framing of national security threatsSkepticism toward traditional diplomatic intermediaries (Pakistan) in favor of direct great-power negotiationsIncreased focus on AI regulation as existential threat competing with traditional defense prioritiesWeaponization of educational curriculum as frontline of ideological conflictCurrency risk concerns with Iran accepting yuan instead of petrodollars in oil dealsPerception management gap: Iran claiming victory while U.S. position remains undefinedDecentralization of military command creating ambiguity in negotiation authority and enforcementGrowing concern about precedent-setting in international waterway control
Companies
Axios
Published reporting on AI control by oligarchs and Iranian intelligence assessments that Bannon cites as key evidence
New York Times
Reported on Israeli intelligence failures and Trump's Situation Room meeting via Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan book
Sky TV
Conducted 90-second interview with President Trump on Iran negotiations framework
Daily Caller
Reagan Reese serves as White House correspondent asking questions about 10-point agreement specifics
Vanguard
Mentioned as major firm holding significant gold positions amid dollar devaluation concerns
BlackRock
Referenced as institutional investor holding significant gold positions
People
Trita Parsi
Guest providing Iranian perspective and analysis of 10-point negotiation framework and U.S. strategic overextension
Sam Faddis
Guest providing assessment that Iran views negotiations as victory, characterizing 10 points as surrender document
Captain Fenell
Guest discussing military implications, Strait of Hormuz control, and Taiwan strategic importance
Brandon Hall
Guest discussing late-night textbook hearing on Islamic curriculum influence and patriotic American history
Steve Bannon
Primary host and commentator framing geopolitical priorities and cultural sovereignty threats
Donald Trump
Referenced throughout regarding Iran negotiations, intelligence briefings, and Taiwan strategy
Reagan Reese
Mentioned as asking critical questions about 10-point agreement specifics at Pentagon briefing
JD Vance
Referenced as correcting Israeli intelligence assessments on Iran policy
Marco Rubio
Referenced as questioning Israeli intelligence accuracy on Iran military capabilities
Mike Pompeo
Referenced regarding Iran policy and intelligence assessments
Joe Allen
Referenced as expert on AI safety threats, scheduled for later discussion
Trevor Comstock
Guest promoting Talo moisturizer product with natural ingredients
Mike Lindell
Guest promoting closeout slippers and merchandise at discounted prices
Maggie Haberman
Co-author of reporting on Israeli intelligence failures and Trump's Iran decision-making
Jonathan Swan
Co-author of reporting on Israeli intelligence failures and Trump's Iran decision-making
Quotes
"An existential threat to this country at this moment is the out of control oligarchs overseeing AI. And this is what I've been saying about the amnesty and the framework and all."
Steve BannonEarly segment
"We are not interested in the response. And we're not interested in the reparations. They're controlling the straight-up air moves. We remove all our military from the Middle East. You can't have a conversation because to even have a conversation assumes you're interested in the response."
Steve BannonMid-episode
"As drafted, this is a surrender document. There's no way in hell we can agree to this thing."
Sam FaddisGuest segment
"They are coming to the table because they believe they are winning the war and we are losing, which is why they're dictating terms to us, which amount to surrender."
Sam FaddisClosing analysis
"The fight we've got right now ain't in Tehran. The fight we have right now is inside the wire in the United States of America and we're losing this country."
Steve BannonTexas education segment
Full Transcript
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going to make the evil on these people. Here's the thing, I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bowne. Wednesday, 8 April, your overlord, 2026. Okay. The concept of opportunity cost. Why are we here? Why are we discussing this war in the Middle East? Why the last 39 days? And I want to really thank the great analysts and observers we had, because I think we've done as good a job as possible. We could do of giving everybody the range of things that are out there. To come to your own conclusion, make sure you understand it. What opportunity cost. And let's say this nuclear threat, which I never thought was really much of a nuclear threat, but let's assume that even they had a close to a nuclear threat or a couple of years away from making bombs. Ladies and gentlemen, that is one one-hundredth of the threat to this nation. Read the Axios Frickin' piece. Why do you think we got Joe Allen in here five years ago? We understood this day was coming. This day not to talk about 10 points and what is Iran saying and what's the United States saying and what are we all doing? Because look, we're all going to work through that. We're all going to work through that. An existential threat to this country at this moment is the out of control oligarchs overseeing AI. And this is what I've been saying about the anesty and the framework and all. Yes, the children are very important. You got to get on top of that because they're going to try to exploit that. The thing about creative control and conservatism, content provides, that's all important. The single most important issue is we have a weapon that is a hundred times more lethal than nuclear weapons. Today in Axios, they admit that and they have no control over it. No control over it. The originators admit that. And this is this whole fight. They've had a huge fight in the Pentagon over the last couple of months about actually, well, we can give this to you or you can't. You know, this is out of control. This could destroy humanity today. That's some issue about what could they launch a nuke on Israel or they could do this or send it to Saudi Arabia or God forbid send it to UAE. Destruction of humanity and because of opportunity costs because as a country, we are obsessed with it. We are not dealing with the problems in this nation. The problems in this nation do not exist in the streets of Tehran or with the Islamic theocracy running Iran. It's inside the wire here between the oligarchs and the Marxist jihadists running New York City and trying to take over the state of Texas. Full stop in the 25 million illegal aliens that are here. All this is going to do at the end of this is make this nation more populist and more nationalistic. Trita Parsey, I want to thank you for coming on here in the last couple of weeks. I know you got a lot of grief about this. We got grief about it, but you have done because I've gone back to look to the tape. You've done an excellent job of giving us the perspective of kind of the people across the table today, the people that were, you know, and not just the theocrats, but other people, other dissident voices in there. So here's the question I've got because I've read your stuff and all the stuff in the European papers. And I asked Reagan Reese, who asked the best question, the Pentagon briefing today, and as a White House correspondent for the Daily Caller, as I've asked Psobeck and I've asked Faddis, what exactly is the 10 points that are agreed to right now? Because I see what you're putting out. I see what the Iranians are putting out. I see what's in the European papers. And I saw President Trump's, I guess, the 90 second interview he had on Sky TV. What is agreed to right now, sir? We don't know if anything has been agreed on within those 10 points, but rather what Trump has said is that the 10 points that the Iranians have put forward will be the basis of the negotiations. And so it is important to understand the United States has not agreed to those points, but it is agreed to have those points to be the basis, the framework for the negotiations. That in and of itself is a win for the Iranians because the 15 points that Trump had put forward before was essentially the terms of Iran's capitalization. And that is not what this negotiation is going to be about. Now, will the United States agree to all of those different 10 points? I find that very unlikely. So demands that the U.S. should leave the region entirely militarily. I don't think Trump is going to agree to, although I personally think- But hang on, but hang on, but hang on. Oh, slow down, slow down, slow down. You're sugarcoating this. There's not an- if those are the 10 points, I haven't heard the White House say that yet. Maybe somebody has. I just asked Reagan Rees, who's the White House correspondent for Daily Caller, and asked the ballsy's question of Hexeth this morning about the total civilizational destruction of the Persian people. But my point is, is that actually a basis? Because I think the way I count, there's eight of 10 of them. You can't even- if you have a conversation, it means you're interested in what the Iranians have to say. And quite frankly, we're not interested in the reparations. They're controlling the straight-up air moves. We remove all our military from the Middle East. You can't have a conversation because to even have a conversation assumes you're interested in the response. And we're not interested in the response. So how can those 10- there's got to be a different 10. It's got to be. It can't be those 10 because that's not a basis. A basis means there's something here and we'll work it out and on the margin and maybe we go 70% and you go 30%. There's seven or eight of these that are dead on arrival, aren't they? Am I missing it? Maybe I am. And if I am, I want you to tell me that. Yeah. Look, several of them are dead on arrival. I agree with that. I don't think the United States in any way, shape, or form, will take reparations to Iran. And I don't think the Iranians will dictate whether the U.S. should stay or leave militarily in the region. I personally think that the U.S. should leave anyways. And frankly, Trump himself has said that we should be leaving. Unfortunately, we're not. But again, it will not be because the Iranians are dictating it to the United States in a negotiation. But I do think that there are other elements of this that are going to be part of the end result if there is an agreement. The straight will be open. I mean, what is happening in the next two weeks while the negotiations are taking place is that these rates will be open, but the Iranians will be charging fees for the transit of these ships together with the country of Oman. For the United States to accept that and recognize that is in and of itself a big step towards making that a permanent feature. Now, these are not huge amounts of money, nor is it going to give the Iranians a lot of income, but it's going to give them geopolitical leverage. And that is one of the features is that the whole stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, hang on, hang on, hang on. Is that not the moral equivalent? I just said this was not Suez. They're trying to say this is the American Suez. I said, no, it's not the American Suez. Maybe what happens in Taiwan in a couple of weeks, excuse me, Taiwan in Beijing a couple of weeks. Correct me if I'm wrong. You're a smart guy. If we agree that the Iranians with the Omanis or that group of pirates down there in the cliffs around Hormuz get to charge a toll in what has been here to for free navigation. Is that not an American Suez? We can't agree to that. How do you agree to that? That means you guys are in control of the streets of Hormuz and once you're in charge of it, charging a fee under our acquiescence. How are we ever going to wind that back, sir? So I think it's important to recognize one thing. Trump already said about two weeks ago, the United States is not importing oil from the Persian Gulf. This straight up Hormuz is important to Asian countries and to European countries. It is not crucial to the United States any longer. The entire Middle East is no longer crucial to the United States. This is one of those problems that we have here in the United States in which we are overextended in a region that doesn't have a vital interest for U.S. national security any longer. We're not in need of the oil from the Middle East. The rest of the global market is. And they were not willing to step up when Trump asked them to step up militarily and help. And I have full understanding why they didn't. It would have been a losing proposition. And Trump has essentially said, look, this doesn't bother or concern us any longer. And as a result, if the rest of the world has a problem with Iranians charging a fee, then the rest of the world will have to deal with it. You know what the rest of the world is going to do? They're going to EQS to it. They're going to negotiate their own arrangements with Iranians because the fees are nominal are very, very small. And the idea of either going to war with Iran or just paying the small fee is a no brainer for the vast majority of countries. If the United States is massive Navy, couldn't open up the streets militarily? What is South Korea or Japan going to do about it? I'm going to put this to Fennel and Faddis as soon as you bounce, but continue on because your analysis of this is very, what else about these 10 points? Do you think it's worked at? It starts on Friday, I think in Islamabad. Give me your assessment of that. So I don't think this is going to end up working. I don't think there's going to be an agreement. Instead, I think there's going to be a non agreement agreement, which means the two sides don't come to an agreement on any of these points or the majority of these points. But it does not mean that the United States goes back into war with Iran because Trump did the right thing of pulling out of this. He should never have gone into this war at this point. It should be clear to everyone. It was a mistake. This does not serve you as interest. And even if the Israelis want to continue the war, that should be an Israeli war. This should have been an Israeli war from the outset without the involvement of the United States. And that is then going to leave a scenario in which there will not be an agreement, but there will be a new reality. I think one of those realities is that the Iranians are going to charge tolls in the Persian Gulf, but the U.S. is not going to lift sanctions on Iran. It's not going to do any of those other things that the Iranians are asking for, but it's also not going to go back into a war that really does not have a path to victory. At this point, I would be very surprised after Trump's experience in the last 39 days that he decides that this is worth another go. Now, if the Israelis push again, which I think they will, it will really come to Trump making a decision as to whether he wants the Israelis to decide when the United States goes to war or whether the president of the United States decides when the United States goes to war. Let's go to the New York Times then reported. Maggie Haverman and Jonathan Swan is part of their new book. It was a shocking, I think, ex-Bosey in the, and who knows if it's fake news or not, but the first part of it was about Israel's presentation. I think on February 11th, the President Trump actually in the Situation Room, which is pretty extraordinary. I'm not so sure that's ever happened before to have a foreign leader in the Situation Room. Then it was about President Trump's senior advisors. It turns out that at least according to the New York Times, and I haven't seen it refuted by the Israelis, they were 100% dead wrong on all their intelligence. Everything that the brief President Trump was wrong. And the second part of the story was JD and Ratcliffe and Marco going out of their way to say, oh, their intelligence is wrong and here's what's correct and maybe we shouldn't do this. What's your assessment of that piece, sir? It does correspond with what I heard throughout this entire period, that Trump himself was the person in the White House most eager to go down this path because the Israelis had managed to convince him. And this also comes through very clearly in this piece. And it's also what I've been saying on your show in previous interviews. Trump was convinced to think that this was going to be very, very easy. And if it was going to be easy, he would never have to deal with these issues of the Iranians controlling the straits or that this is impacting his whole numbers in the U.S. Or that impacting inflation and gasoline prices because this would be over with within four days, slightly longer than Venezuela, but far more glorious. They had managed to convince him again based on rosy pictures and false intelligence. Very specifically, the Israeli part of the presentation is that after the initial bombing of the shock and all that the Iranian military would not have any ability to control the strait or hermuz and there would be a massive uprising of the people wrong on both. And I mean, not kind of like we're 5% off or 10% off. I mean, dead wrong. Completely off. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And again, I hope that the president really. Yeah. I just really hope that the president really takes this into account because he is going to be faced with the Israelis very soon pushing him to go back into this war. They're dead set against his ceasefire. One of the senior officials in Israel politicians in Israel called it the worst political debacle in Israeli history that the ceasefire was reached. So he's going to have to make a decision and learning that he was fed with false intelligence, false assessments by the Israelis should weigh on his mind when he makes his next decision. Thank you, Trita. Where do people go to keep up with your sub stack and all your should go to sub stack at Trita Parsey Twitter at T parsey and go to the Quincy Institute's website, which is Quincy INST.org. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. Thank you so much. If you couple, if you couple the New York Times article with what's happened over the last 24 hours, it's shocking. And I haven't seen anybody step up and refuted. 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Take advantage of people that have. Love it for pennies a day. It takes away that angst and anxiety. And we get to Captain Fanon's moment. Sam Faddis, you've been a fountain of reason in this entire time. Give us your assessment of where we are and where do you think we're headed. Where we are, we have a ceasefire and we're going to sit down at the table and we're going to negotiate. That's and we have nothing beyond that what we have our, I can tell you what the Iranians say the 10 points are that we have allegedly agreed to negotiate from. They represent a surrender document, a surrender document for us. I mean, we're the guys in the Japanese uniforms on the battleship in Tokyo Bay in this scenario. We are supposed to withdraw all our troops from the region, acknowledge their control over the Straits of Hormuz, acknowledge their right to continue to exact a toll, lift all our sanctions against them. Also roll back every resolution the United States ever United Nations ever passed on the nuclear program. We're supposed to agree to their right to enrich uranium. It is a complete their document and pay reparation. We make sure the audience understands something. Sam Faddis is not saying this is reality and Steve Bannon is not saying this is reality. Right. The Iranians have popped now. First, when they promulgated it yesterday, I was up saying no, no, no, no, there's other 10 points out there. But to my knowledge, I look to my crack staff or even the war room engine room. I haven't seen the administration come back with a counter and say no, those present Trump mentioned it on this guy news 90 second interview that that was not correct. I do think we need to see those. Although, hey, if you start the process, you start the process, but it can't say correct me if I'm wrong. I told Trita that can't be the basis of negotiations because I count seven or eight of those that are dead on arrival just in no need to have a conversation because we're never going to get there. Like, for instance, no need to have a conversation about you charging a toll because it ain't the $2 million a ship. That's not the point. The point is that we would actually agree that you have the ability to control the the straight, although quote unquote, it's open by actually charging a toll. And we're going to turn it over to the British and the French and the other hapless Europeans. You know, to essentially put the revolutionary guard in a group of pirates down off her moves and charge. And there's there's many more besides that correct. So it can't be a basis since these are dead on arrival, right? Well, you and I are in complete agreement on that. But what I know is that the Iranians are saying officially on their state media media that this that is the basis has Bala is saying that the Iran the has Bala is celebrating the Iraqi, the Iranian proxies in Iraq are celebrating. They are openly describing this as a decisive victory over the United States. We are surrendering to them. They are not pulling any punches. Yeah, I'm like you. I OK, we got a ceasefire. But what exactly are we talking about? Because, you know, we keep coming trying to come back to as as Captain Fanels says, the main thing, which is China and Taiwan. Well, if we agree to anything remotely resembling these 10 points, you think Beijing takes seriously anything we say about Taiwan. I mean, if we start this war and surrender. Ah, but you've gotten to the core core point because China had had their hand in the invisible hand of the CCP. They kind of came to the forefront yesterday. They're actively working because Pakistan. President Trump has a great relationship with the field of Marshall, but Pakistan's an ally of the Chinese Communist Party on the one on the Belt Road, all of it. And they're one of the. That's one of the most dangerous spots on Earth. The Iranians, it's one of their as I draw the thing a couple of years ago, the Iranians are the probably the biggest real ally that the that CCP has, particularly they got a 40 year output deal on oil and they're and they're taking the risk to pay for it in yuan, which is a big currency risk. Sir. So it my point, I think this needs to be. I think the White House and people around the White House have got to put out the 10 points that we think we're negotiating on. Otherwise, because I'm all for this an off ramp. Let's get it done. Let's get that. Let's send the carrier battle groups over to the Pacific where they should be, right, which are naturally strategic barrier. The Central Pacific is the strategic heartland of our hemispheric defense. Let's get serious and get over there and get the hell out of this place. But if it's what the Iranians are keep saying and meet their media lies all the time, but I haven't seen any refutation. President Trump is never going to get there on the points because he's adamant about a bunch of these points. Am I missing it? No, you're dead on this. This we cannot possibly come anywhere close to negotiating an end to this war based on the 10 points. The Iranians have put forward, but those are the only 10 points and they say in their announcement, they, the Iranians, when they said, we agree to this, he's fire. They were very explicit in saying that we are negotiating from our 10 points that they had rejected the original 15 point plan. I think it was that Trump put out and now the Americans have agreed to negotiate on this basis. Now, the fact that Iran says that doesn't make that true. That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying, but, but, but, but, okay, we're miles apart. But Sam, there's a, but hang on. There's a logic there. We put out a maximalist position. I thought the 15 points were pretty good. It's a maximalist position, which I'd love to take. And President Trump, that's how he's negotiated. These guys put a maximalist position. But when you do deals, you've got to have a big crossover at some point because there's always tension before you close and execute on the deal, right? To pull it apart. You're so far. The bid and the ask here are so far apart. You're going to ask Donald Trump for reparations. You're going to ask Donald Trump to pull out all the military we've got in the Middle East. I mean, in this regard, what the Israelis are saying right now is that this thing's a non-starter. And when they look at the 10 points and they're getting their nose rub in this, they're actually from their perspective, correct? Are they not? Yeah, they are. I mean, look, we're the Iranians say as one of their 10 points, we will cease all activity against all of their proxies, including the Lebanese resistance for those that don't speak Ayatollah. That's code for Hezbollah. We have, we in the Israelis need to stop being mean to Hezbollah. We got to pay reparations. I mean, on and on and on. That's why I say this. As drafted, this is a surrender document. There's no way in hell we can agree to this thing. So good question. What are we going to exact? What are we talking about when we sit down in Islamabad? Because we are miles and miles apart here. I just think we need clarity. Captain Fanel, your thoughts and observations on this. I mean, if we if we go with what the Iranians are putting out, it would be a surrender. Obviously, President Trump isn't going to surrender. So I think I'm not a diplomat, but I would guess that if I was heading to Pakistan to try to negotiate this, that I it would be a very tough, tough meeting. Because these are some of these things are just can't get around. I think the nuclear inspections. But hang on, but hang on, but hang on, hang on, hang on. Why do we even go to? Why do you think? Look, and I'm a guy that wants to get the hell out of here. Why do you even go to Islamabad? You tell him right now and say, hey, look, we don't want to go back to using the we don't want to go back. But in this ceasefire, there's got to be some light at the end of the two week tunnel. We don't want to go back to pounding again. So right now there's such there what they've put out their 10 points are so in your face offensive that how do you even go to Islamabad? What do you talk about? Well, again, I'm not a diplomat, so I wouldn't I wouldn't go there because I wouldn't be able to talk to them. But there's got to be something that if we're going to try to get through this and get some kind of peace agreement and stop this killing, then let's see what happens. But if it doesn't work, we're going to go back to it. And I think whoever's on our side going there is going to say exactly that message. If you guys don't start acting realistic with us, then it's just going to we're going to turn the spigot on again. And this time, as the president said, we're going to take out, you know, your infrastructure, oil, electrical power grid. We're going to make sure that you can't function as a society. So I think that's that's what the hardball is going to be played in Pakistan. Yeah. Hang over a second. I want to hold to you guys. We're going to go to Texas briefly and find out what's going on there. But I've got a recommendation. You just tell me, hey, look, we saw the 10. We're going to we're going to have a stand down. But the real meeting is going to be in Beijing on May 13 and 14. Let's get principles in the room. The United States and the Chinese Congress, the Chinese Congress parties hands all over this and they need the oil better, worse than anybody in the world. So let's deal principle to principle. Why are we doing intermediaries like the Pakistanis and even the Revolutionary Guard? Because we can pound those guys again. Let's let's have principle to principle. Let's have Xi and President Trump sit there and make the deal. Make the peace. And while we're at it, let's send a couple of carrier battle groups through the Straits of Taiwan as little heads up to the CCP short break. Fellow patriots, the Federal Reserve has portrayed America for over a century, printing fiat, inflating away your savings, serving globalist masters. But President Trump is ending it. President Trump is wielding a 112 year old law to reclaim control from the rogue Federal Reserve. He's replacing Jerome Powell slashing rates, igniting America's reindustrialization. Now this is not theory. 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We heard from hundreds of testifiers yesterday on this issue, but I'll tell you Texas Patriots yesterday roared like a lion and a big part of that was definitely war room. We had lots of people come in and say that they were sent there by your show here. And so I just want to thank you and the Texas Patriots for highlighting this issue. And you know, the media was trying to paint this as a one sided issue. So really it's your show that that would help us turn out all these people. So where do we stand? I mean, our audience was pretty shocked. You're saying we heard that some Republican or the Republican was still pushing this and that people just didn't understand the logic of teach American history and Texas history and patriotic history that we in the concept that we would have any Islamic involvement in this whatsoever is just such a alien concept. No pun intended to our audience. So why did people are shocked this morning when they're here and it went to two in the morning. It should have been over with a quick vote, quick discussion and a vote when you guys finished. So why did it go into the early hours of the morning, sir? Well, part of it was a lot of the testifiers that we had. It took a while to get through all those testimonies, but again, yes, we're going to be in debate probably all day today. Going through this line by line and we're going to have to defend keeping the good American patriotism and exceptionalism and our Texas history in and making sure that we don't get the global perspectives and definitely not the influence of Islam. And so this battle is far from over. I'm encouraged we had some good amendments that were positive yesterday. And I think that's because the SBOE members are hearing from these testifiers. And so I think people who may have been a little on the fence or a little bit not as strong as they need to be in standing up to Islam. I think they were really motivated to do the right thing by all the testifiers that we had yesterday. So what's going to happen today? I know you got a bounce because the means about to start, but just walk us through what's going to happen at the. What are you saying that the best outcome we could have by the end of the day? Well, the best outcome that we could have by the end of the day is to pass what we have on the table right now. And I'm going to have some amendments and some of the conservatives will have amendments that would strengthen it. But the draft that we have right now with the sweeping amendment that was made last night is very pro America teaches a great perspective of American history and it's very America and in Texas focused. It's not globalists at all. We're in a really good spot with Islam. I'm going to make some amendments today to try to strengthen where we're at with Islam because our students need to know that this is a foreign way of life. It's not just a religion. It's a whole set of values and you know the system of Sharia. It's a foreign way of life that would destroy this country if we allow it to take a foothold. And so our students just need to know the 1400 years of documented history of Islam showing up on your doorstep and they never show up to coexist or to get along or to assimilate. They always show up to conquer and to take over. So if we can show our students that I think we have a good better chance in America of stopping it. And so we're going to be fighting that today. But the best possible case scenario is that we can pass what we have with maybe a little bit more strength to it. Brandon, where do people follow you on social media and your website because there's an intense interest. Not just in our great patrons to follow the show in Texas but throughout the country and quite frankly our large international audience all eyes are on Texas today, sir. So where do they go to follow you? Yeah, they can find me at Brandon Hall TX on X dot com and they can also go to SBOE dot Texas dot gov to find out my bio and a little bit more information about me as well as my contact info. Thank you sir. Appreciate you. Thank you Steve. Captain Finnelli, you've done such a great job here on going through the Sencombe, the military plan to defang and decline. But this is my point. You gave a very touching and meaningful talk about your brother in arms that you serve with and then you went back to Texas. There's a real Texan. You talked about Texas values. You talked about what made this man what he is. This is my point. The fight we've got right now ain't in Tehran. The fight we have right now is inside the wire in the United States of America and we're losing this country. I want people to understand until and it's not about the war room. It's about, you know, Jenny's story and people rallying down. They're starting in January to carry the Karen Sigmund, all the great patrons in Texas to fight this imposition of Sharia law that is so far advanced as Peter McElvenny has told us. He went there and said in the same timeframe in London and London has fallen that is much more advanced in the state of Texas. And this is what we have to say. We have to beat this back. This is like the gates of Vienna. This is like tours, right? This is like Charles Martel, the hammer defeating them. They are in this country and it must be defeated. We don't have a choice if we do not defeat it and we don't defeat it in Texas, you're not going to have a country. You're going to have what's happening in New York City today. Captain Fanel, given that your perspective on where do we go here in this situation in Iran, sir? Well, Steve, just one comment about the Markham Dossett who passed away last week. Markham is a seventh generation Texan and he was standing up against the invasion as you're talking about. There was no question in his mind that Texas was under attack and he understood that. And so patriots like the one you just had on and others that are in Texas and your show that's been down there, it's very, very important. So I don't disagree with you at all. We have to make sure that we secure our own internal borders and we have to clean this up and we cannot allow this to happen to America. But in terms of the external fight, we are in a fight. We've been in a fight for a month now with the Iranian regime and we need to find a way to get out of this. We need to find a way to get out of it without allowing them to hold the world in ourselves hostage. So that negotiations going to happen. If it doesn't go well, I see that as the Secretary of War said, our forces are still in the region and still will be able to bring power to bear. I see the Iranian response and I heard the other gentlemen from the Quincy Institute talk about, you know, where the Iranians are and what they think. They're not like a small child, you know, they throw a temper tantrum, but they really can't do much. You're still the parent, you still have the power and they can say and do what they want. What is really critical is that in my opinion are the two issues. It's what we do and how we negotiate the nuclear issue, which is really important, but also the Strait of Hormuz. And there's no way that we can allow Iran to charge tolls for transiting through the Strait of Hormuz. The precedent that that would set would undo not just 250 years of American naval heritage, but another two, three, four hundred years of British and other nations. We cannot allow the Iranians to have a toll booth to control an international waterway. If we do that, then Beijing will try to do the same for the Strait of Malacca, the South China Sea, the Taiwan Strait, the Yellow Sea, and the Sea of Japan, to be honest. So and beyond, they want to control even around out to Hawaii and beyond. So we cannot allow that to happen. I don't think the president will allow that to happen. And I think the best way to demonstrate our ability in this negotiation is to have freedom of navigation with our ships. And we have five ships, American ships, flag ships that are in the Gulf right now. I know others have been calling for this. I repeat what they've said, Salma Calliago has spelled the same name wrong, but we need to get our American ships out that are flagged to demonstrate that we're not going to stand by for this and help the other nations that are dependent upon this. We don't have to stay there forever, but we have to demonstrate that the Iranians are toothless in this area. And if they pop off and try to shoot somebody, then the hammer comes down again. But we've got to get through this and we've got to get out of it to focus on the main thing, which is what this meeting was. Gee, and President Trump is going to be about in May, which is to remind Gee that he is not going to control half of the Pacific Ocean and keep us in the West Coast of America. That's not going to happen. You know, Captain Fanel, myself, Poso, we've talked about the Chinese Counties Party involved in it. They came forward yesterday. So now you know their involvement and this is going to be central. I'm still the belief. Forget Islamabad. Let's just negotiate it. Mano a mano in the same room in Beijing. Captain Fanel, thank you so much. Look forward to having you back on, sir. Great analysis. Sam Faddis, you're closing thoughts on this on day 39. Sam, you've done such a good job being so even handed. It looks like the Iranians are so over the top. It would lead one to believe that the balloon may go up again. Am I too far off base and saying that? No, I at this point, if I had to predict, I would predict that we're going to be. We're going to be back in a shooting war. Sooner rather than rather than later, I hope that's not true, but. We're miles apart. I mean, look, we think we think or want to think they're coming to the table because they believe they are losing the war. They are coming to the table because they believe they are winning the war and we are losing, which is why they're dictating terms to us, which amount to surrender. So that's, that's where we are. I, you know, you don't have to agree with their assessment, you know, have to adopt their position. I'm just saying they don't at this point believe that we are forcing them to the table. They believe they have forced us to the table. That's where we are. In Americans, national security strategy. Since really the beginning of this republic and I realize we've become an imperial power all over the globe. One of the central underlines that we assumed this is what about the end of the dollar empire at Bretton Woods. Once the the Royal Navy and the British pound couldn't do it, the Americans stepped in at the end of World War Two. Right. But free navigation has been a central, central, central. Look at World War One, look at World War Two, the Pacific, all of it. How big a deal it because people say, well, hey, it's a couple of main box. If you look at the thing, it doesn't matter. It's not about the money. It's not about even how bad this is, which is terrible, paying it in Chinese currency instead of petrodollars. It is the very, very concept that a collection of pirates was which they are and theocrats could actually set up a toll booth. And what is here to for bin a freely navigable straight into a place where, you know, 20% they say 20% of the world's resources, but if oil, but if you look at Europe, you look at Asia, I don't know, it's 75%, 80%. So to even have that conversation is going down a slippery slope that in showing people that you're even interested in having that conversation, you can't be interested in having that conversation because it's never going to happen. So we don't have time to waste time. Am I wrong in that? No, you're absolutely right. It's foundational, right? It's like, okay, we're not having this conversation. I mean, let's look at President Jefferson, we barely had a Navy and a Marine Corps established this principle with the Barbary pirates, right? I don't care what the Brits are doing in the French. They pay you off and ransom their citizens. We don't roll like that. Right. We're going to, you know, we barely got it. Like I say, we barely got a Navy. It doesn't matter. We're coming to get you and we're going to establish the United States doesn't do this. Are you kidding me? Now we're going to be in 2026 and letting these, as you say, pirates, stick us up. That cannot be. Look, we have to win the war and it has to be perceived that we win the war. I've said very clearly, I wouldn't recommend it. We started nor prosecuted this way, but we're in it, man. There's no rewind button. You can't now say we're tired of it and walk away. We have to win. Sam, hang on. I'll just hold you for a minute on the other side to give your coordinates, but you said something. I disagree with how we got here. You folks know that. I disagree with some of the prosecution of it, obviously. But as I've said, you're in a shooting war. You've put American kids in harm's way and guess what? They're going to be more shooting wars. People have to understand that we don't have a choice. We have to have victory. It's not a choice. We have to have victory. 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Where do folks go to get Substack and Magazine, all of it? In Magazine.Substack.com and I'm on X and Get Her in Truth Social is real Sam Faddis. Sam, just real quickly, do you think we're going to skip Islamabad and just go right to Beijing? Do you think we go through the process? Let's go. We'll go Friday and have this discussion or do you like my thing? It's just like, let's go. Sorry about that. Let's just go to Beijing and sit down with a guy can actually make a deal. She and enforce a deal, sir. Look, I'd go to Islamabad, but I would tell them in advance where the very first thing out of my mouth would be, okay, so let's get real. We're not talking about these 10 points boys. That's nice that you put that out for internal consumption in Iran, but we're not even going to dignify that with a response. Let's start over. Sam Faddis, thank you so much. I appreciate you, sir. Trevor Comstock. Let's finish on an upbeat note today. Look, we're not shooting. Our kids aren't in harm's way this morning. There's a lot to be thankful for. President Trump's going to figure this out. It'll be figured out and we'll cover it nonstop until it's figured out. Like I said, there are things. Let me just repeat this. The threat of this nuclear weapon, these nuclear weapons, and I've been very suspect about the reality of that entire thing. I agree with President Trump. He totally obliterated what they really had back in June and it was time to move on. What Anthropic is telling you and what they're telling you over at Axios in this article today, and we'll have Joe and some people up this afternoon to talk about it, is 100 times more lethal to this country, to you personally, and to this thing called what we are, it's a Homo sapiens as a species, full stop. And that has to be addressed. It has to be addressed. Now, what's going down in Texas is 10 times more important. It's just 10 times more important. 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