This is the Don Lebator Show with the Stugatz Podcast. Super Bowl 60, more like Super Bowl snooze fest. Okay? Hands down, Evo's born Super Bowl rockstar. This is dead ass, the worst Super Bowl I've ever seen. I thought I was gonna lose my mind. I'd rather watch paint dry than this Super Bowl. Open to the fourth quarter, this game was an absolute snooze fest. That game was the most boring schoolyard in a minute. And the kicker puts up 17. Well that shit's a no from me. Boring ass Super Bowl. It's punt after punt after punt after field goal. We saw no touchdowns until the fourth. Don't be fooled by the final score. At least bad Bunny did his thing. At least the Pats didn't win another ring. At this Super Bowl, I was so bored. No, watching this Super Bowl. This was such an awful Super Bowl, I'm not going to lie. I was so bored. This was so boring. It was terrible. Yeah, sometimes we get bad ones. It's been a minute since, well, I guess Mahomes has played in a couple of bad ones. Last year was bad. Where they got throttled a couple of times, but it was still Mahomes in the middle of it. And Mahomes losing is the biggest story in the sport. We had a great run of like three consecutive good ones. Well, but this is what happens, okay? And this is a little bit surprising to me that Zaslo would dare say Sam Darnold has a fair chance to make the Hall of Fame. I'm just going to give you the stats of his first five seasons, okay? 56 games, 55 interceptions, 35 fumbles. Like that's how much can change with this kind of run where Zaslo said something that's laughable. Like this is not a Hall of Fame quarterback under any circumstances, even if his next ten seasons look like this one. Because he led the league in turnovers. And he's not likely to go on a Tom Brady run of being in the Super Bowl every year and winning seven of them in the 11 times that he goes or the 10 times that he goes because he's Sam Darnold. And he's still Sam Darnold. And whether he's a different Sam Darnold, he's still Sam Darnold. And those numbers, 56 games, 55 interceptions, 35 fumbles cannot be allowed in the Hall of Fame, even if you had them in high school. Like you can't buy a ticket to the Hall of Fame. Like if you're a quarterback who had those numbers at any time in your life, you should not be allowed admission to the Hall of Fame. Never mind being discussed as is it fair to think of him as a Hall of Famer. What are you doing Zaslo? Somebody wins. So if you realize if he loses yesterday's game by a point, you're not saying any of this, correct? Like you're just assigning a bunch of shit to him. Like he didn't even play that well, man. That's his lowest completion percentage of the season. Second lowest yards per attempt. He overthrew Smith and Jigba on a clear touchdown. Should have been picked off before the end of the half with a dumb play that Gonzalez somehow didn't make the interception on. He was great last night by the way. Yeah, he was great. Okay, I have two points I want to make. Number one, seeing what we saw from this Seattle team all season and then winning the Super Bowl, we would agree they probably have a window here where maybe they could do this again, right? Possibly. I don't know. I'm actually really worried about Clint Clubeak leaving to the Raiders. I need to see who's going to fill that vacuum at OC because he was the unlocking factor in Sam Darnold's, you know, redemption play. Who was the unlocking factor last year then? Kevin O'Connor, another great offensive coordinator. Two different guys now, two years have unlocked him. So I don't know. And by the way, and so now it brings you to the other point, he was drafted number three overall. Like this is what he was supposed to be. And who's to say that now he's not going to be this guy for the rest of his career? What, 20 turnovers in a season leading the NFL? No, like a quarterback who is a contender every two years. Look, man, this part gets frustrating to me always. Okay, there were 10 games during this season for Seattle where people forget that they were battered offense. There were 10 games in the middle of their season that it just gets forgotten and it'll get forgotten forever more because they end up winning the title. But this is what we do with quarterbacks. And I just caution you on, let's see what they look like for the next five years. Like the Eagles were pretty good for a while. And then all of a sudden they're not the Chiefs were pretty good for a while. And then all of a sudden they're not. And they had more, I think, than when they won the championship. I thought they had more than this Seattle team has. Right. But the Eagles had what a three year run and the Chiefs had what a nine year run. This is the start of Seattle. I don't, I don't. Could they be a one and done? A one and done maybe, but I don't. It looks like a team that's going to be able to contend for a little bit. They have a young core. You guys say that, but there are all sorts of factors in terms of who's chasing them and injury and all sorts of crud that ends up happening. And the quarterback is still Sam Darnold. Like you can reinvent him some, but please. And perhaps they could do it the way the Eagles do where Jalen Hertz is a bit of hard to quantify. As a quarterback, because he's not necessarily the reason that they're winning, although occasionally he is the reason that they do win. And I will say again that the game, Darnold one was the Super Bowl they played two weeks ago against the Rams when he needed to be better than the MVP of the league. And he was the, what happened in that game and in their games against the Rams this season is the difference between them being a one and done. And the difference between them being a one seed and a five seed, like that's a two point conversion is the difference between them having to go on the road for all three of their road, all three of their playoff games. And the most improbable, like you can't even do that if you try a thousand times where the ball hits the helmet goes forward, then Sharpen a pick set up inside of the end zone for the two point conversion. Like you, that would be in a movie and you'd be like, oh, this is kind of bullsh**t. Seattle, if they played that game a thousand times, Seattle loses it a thousand times. If they play it again, 1000 more times, they lose it a thousand times. And it's the difference between the Rams having to win three games on the road and Seattle getting to get a buy and then play the broken 49ers in the first round and then go throughout the postseason without Sam Darnold making a turnover when he's more likely to make a turnover than any quarterback in the league. And we didn't really talk about the 49ers. If they were healthy, they might have been the better team of both of those teams. Well, that's the other thing, right? Like that's that's the other thing about I would just caution you to think that any of these things are recreatable, right? Like I know Cody was saying last week and then of Patriots might be a dynasty. That seems more likely to me, given that they're now going to draft a whole bunch of people on offense to make sure that their quarterback doesn't get sacked that way because their quarterback is better than Seattle's quarterback. I'm looking at the recent history of the Super Bowl like 30 years. The only time like a Super Bowl winner has dropped off completely is when they've had either Manning or Brady retire on them. Usually if you win the Super Bowl, you're around for a while. Like maybe you don't win another one. The Saints won a Super Bowl. We're in the conversation, lost plenty of playoff games as favorites, but they didn't go away. Yeah, but they had Drew Brees like Brad Johnson's team doesn't stay there. This would be what I'm saying for like for you to talk about this scenario, which Sam Darnold is maybe not this potential Hall of Fame trajectory guy. They would have to do something pretty unprecedented, which is go the way of like certain Super Bowl losers like the San Diego Chargers like the Cincinnati Bengals of Joe Burrow who've gone away recently. It doesn't really happen. The Carolina Panthers of Jake Deloam, they went away. The Cam Newton Carolina Panthers, they went away. Falcons and Matt Ryan. Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't really happen to the winners. I mean, it did happen to Trent Dillford, right? Like Baltimore never won. Baltimore did win again with Joe Flacco. Okay. Ray Lewis was on that team that one that. Okay. Trent Dillford is the category that I'm putting Sam Darnold in. Baltimore was not bad. Baltimore wasn't bad. Yeah, but never bad is not the same as winning it all the time. Like only one team gets the win. They were in the conversation. They were in AFC championship games like they didn't go away. And you think Dillford and Darnold are in the same conversation? I don't. I shouldn't do that, but I'm just doing the reasons that I'm doing all the other times I've seen a team win not because of its quarterback. Like that game yesterday was not won because of Sam Darnold. It wasn't. That's it's just not like they gave Kenneth Walker the MVP and it wasn't won because of him either. Like they won because the defense was strong. And to that degree, Ray Lewis and what you're talking about with those Ravens. Yeah, they got Joe Flacco and they won once. I just I'm not as convinced as the rest of you are that this Seattle thing is here to stay given that I just they would have been very easy for them to lose a first round playoff game on the road as a five seed because it almost happened to the Rams. The in the Rams Super Bowl against the Patriots. Brady really wasn't spectacular in that Super Bowl 13 or three. They won. He threw for 260 yards in a pick, but nothing really spectacular that defense was really good and shutting down whatever McVay wanted to do. Like that's the last time I can think of a really good defense kind of propping up a quarter. It could be the Nick Foles thing where Nick Foles wins a Super Bowl with the Eagles. They take a slight setback, but a lot of those guys are still on the team and they make it to a Super Bowl with a different quarterback and then they eventually win it. You know, Sam Darnold's full name is not Samuel. It's just Sam's. Just not Samson. Just Sam. 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Don Lebatard punctuate this segment with what is your strike three call. Strike one would be strike and then you stand up and you give a good point to the right. Stugats. That's same for strike two but strike three you get down low you got your hands behind the catcher. All right the right arm goes up into the air. Yeah and then you finish it with a punch. The right arm flings way up into the air. Yeah. Yeah. I wish I could see that. There are audio. This is the Dan Lebatard show with the Stugats. Amin is ready for us but before we get to Amin and his weekend observations why is it that our friend Stan Van Gundy is somebody that has been at the centerpiece of your conversations lately. If you haven't watched Stan he's doing great work on Amazon. He's also very skinny now. Stan Van Gundy has lost a ton of weight and is doing exceptional work for Amazon. Why is it why were you talking about him earlier. Oh my God I was talking about him because he's doing a broadcast and they're at the free throw line. This is Ron Holland from the Pistons and it's just a normal broadcast and it's Stan Van Gundy doing the kind of analysis that I need done with my basketball. McDonald's All-American 2023 won two state titles in high school. Well I went to McDonald's yesterday. I mean just that is the kind of analysis that I need. Because that's what I thought about when you say McDonald's All-American I'm in my brain assessing the last time I had McDonald's. If I say Mike McDonald is that what you also do when I say Mike. He's lowercase dealer. When I say Mike McDonald's offense or when I say Mike McDonald's defense do you also think. Not as much with McDonald's All-American because McDonald's All-American I know that is that McDonald's that you're talking about. We order a quarter pound of cheese out of. Where is Jeremy still working on his parody songs. Let's go ahead and do a memes weekend observations. It is time for me to share his game notes. No one in the media will tell you what happened better than my boy. I mean. Miller light. Legendary moments start with the light. Dan. There are three types of people in this world. Super Bowl halftime people. Super Bowl commercial people. Me. I'm a Super Bowl halftime kind of guy. fades fades fades fades fades fades fades fades fades I'm a Super Bowl half-time kind of guy. You did mention that. Who's the third kind? Thank you, Chris. Oh, people in the Epstein files. Stugots was right. Super Bowl Saturday. Because today was toilet Bowl Monday. It hurts, right? Holy shit, man. Everybody. I have been dumping nonstop this morning. I cannot get enough matter out of me. OK. Hard on a work day. Well, next year, we get President's Day, right? Is it? We're going to have to work. Yeah, I think we're going to have to work. But I think next year is the sort of it actually being a holiday. Oh, how about that? All right. I can't believe the bad guy from the Incredibles won the Super Bowl. There he is. It's a good shot by you. Zindrom. Bad Bunny had more rushing yards yesterday than the Patriots. Will Campbell got pushed around so bad that at one point in third quarter, he ended up in my kitchen. That's going to pass me a Miller light. Lindsey Vaughn, look at me, Louise. Really? Hold on a second. Let me do that for you, Eric. Yeah. Look at me, Louise. Come on. Oh, look, she's working out with the Ruppford ACL. Oh my god, how tough. I'm like, guys, there's a reason why no one plays sports on a Ruppford ACL. Because then that's happened. That's what happens. And everyone's like, she's so brave. No, not bravery. Pretty sure I saw that fall had nothing to do with her torn ACL, though. Yeah, no, I'm certain. She was fine. She's doing great. She's out here just skiing normally on a torn ACL. Come on. You're better than that, Chris. Donald Trump posted that the Super Bowl halftime show was one of the worst ever, and that the dancing was disgusting, especially for young children watching. Maybe ease up on the young children references there, guy. He wasn't watching the other one? He wasn't. There was no other one. Come on, now. I feel like Danny DeVito is going to run in right now and just say, do not do little kids. It's not good to do little kids. I'm a man, daughter. I'm going to my wife. By the way, Donald Trump also said in the same post that the NFL should replace the new kickoff rule. He goes on. He's like, this is disgusting. He's been all over that for a while. He's been banging the drum on now for a while. He's not wrong, either. But I just like it. Like, oh, it's disgusting. It's a slap in the face. It does represent America, by the way. We're setting records with 401Ks and stuff. Also, it's new kickoff rule. No bueno. It drives him crazy. He's consistent. It has driven him crazy for years. It's a short drive. That's a good one. Mina Kimes. Not getting a tattoo to commemorate the Seahawks title. Fraud. At this point, I'm a bigger Seahawks celebrity fan than Mina Kimes is. Although my boy Gino wasn't there. Man, can you imagine that? It kept Gino and he was the one hoisting that Super Bowl trophy. Drake may not be ready for the spotlight. Drake may not be ready for the spotlight. Yeah, everyone got it, man. Yeah, may with an E at the end. Will Campbell successfully block anyone? 29 total pressures in four playoff games for Will Campbell. So he will not. Your joke did get by Chris. It's quick through. Mirror post. Blue Ivy received the compliment of her life from Dan. Dude, for anyone to be told, you look exactly like Beyonce, even Beyonce's own child. Must be like, thank you. Let's say something about Trusky. Oh, it's on the way in route. Top five things to call my dump this morning. Oh, come on. Oh, I thunder and lightning. Number five, fire and brimstone. Number four, shock and awe. Number three, crack a toa. Number two, the rumble in the jungle. If my intestines were a jungle, there was a rumble inside them. And number one, childbirth. That's right, ladies, I now know your pain. Really? You're going to do that? You're going to do that? I do. Hey, you don't know what I went through this morning, sir. I know it wasn't childbirth. It's a miracle I'm here. Let's just like the miracle birth. It's a miracle. On the pole at LeBatard show. Does the toilet get more thunder and lightning on Super Bowl Monday than any other day of the year? Druski, making a joke about JSM's name at the NFL Honors is textbook low hanging fruit, which is kind of shocking because I didn't think fruit was in his repertoire. See, leave the low hanging fruit to me. I do this well. You, you got to take a higher road than that at NFL Honors, Druski. The Indiana Pacers, dark horse 2027 NBA champs. Oh, I like that. Yeah. J Cole, the fall off, banger after banger. Cinefo episode 299, play date, starring Kevin James, Alan Ritzin, Alan Tudyk and Isla Fisher. Did you guys see Kevin James at the Super Bowl showing up in character as Solo Mio? Did anyone see that? No. I did. I assumed he was shooting something. No, no, promo. Wow. They're doing promo. Movie comes out I think next Friday. Nice stuff. Valentine's Day. Fear. There's no way in hell Bill Belichick even saw what shirt Jordan was wearing. Speaking of hell, Art Biles. Those are the weekend observations. All right, I want to get to a number of these things with Amin to you guys's point about the Seahawks though. They have the sixth most cap space next year and I believe they have the best odds to win it all because my homes is 15 to one, which is the worst odds that he has had since he was named a starter in 2018. And also the Seahawks postseason and regular season have the best point differential since 2002, winning by 246 points in the totality of their games. There's no questioning how dominant they were, but I will say again that before that last little nonsense in the fourth quarter, that was going to be the best defensive performance we've ever seen in a Super Bowl. Like just in terms of how many ways they neutralized everything the second best offense in the sport has been doing. What are you counting on your fingers Amin? My homes is on the books with odds to win a Super Bowl. He's 15 to one. How? He's not going to play. What are you talking about? Is it being on a Super Bowl winning team? I mean, he's expected to come back and people are going to expect him to be okay at some point during next season. Even like a really aggressive return from an ACL. Well, I don't know, Lindsey Vaughn was working out, so maybe he can. Oh. I mean, if he's back in nine months, he's back for preseason. It's become routine now where someone gets injured at that point in the NFL regular season and is back for the next regular season. So I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I feel like you guys, people undersell an ACL. That's a serious injury, man. And people undersell it. Oh, he'll be back. He'll be fine. Like, no, it doesn't work that way. It once was though, Amin, but then you see guys that are coming back from Achilles' tears in like six months flat. No, it's, first of all, no one's coming back from an Achilles' tears six months flat. I want a name. Cam Acres. Look it up. Callum Hudson-Odoi. Callum Hudson-Odoi. I don't know who that is either. This is a soccer player. You know Cam Acres. You know Cam Acres. Come on, Callum. You fit in the word no doi in there. And like, there's no way that's a real name. No doi. You are mocking me, sir. And I don't like it. I don't take kindly to it. I have in front of me here, and I want to get a means thought on thoughts on the halftime show, but it has divided the Paul family. Jake Paul and Logan Paul are on different sides of this. Jake Paul went to Twitter and wrote, I'm purposely turning off the halftime show. Let's rally together and show big corporations. They can't just do whatever they want without consequences, which equals viewership for them. You are their benefit. Realize you have power. Turn off the halftime. A fake American citizen performing who publicly hates America. I cannot support that. And then Logan Paul says back, I love my brother, but I don't agree with this. Puerto Ricans are American, and I'm happy they were given the opportunity to showcase the talent that comes from the island. I mean, what have you seen in terms of reactions here? And is it just this clearly? I'm gonna say racist. I can't say xenophobic because Puerto Rico is the... Well, yeah, no, I'm not saying xenophobic because Puerto Rico is the United States, but it's behaving as if it identifies as xenophobic. It is the pinnacle of racism and also showcasing the absolute dog shit educational system that we have in this country, where many people are discovering through this that Puerto Rico is part of the United States. Like, how do you not know this? Brian, I always see these videos, my algorithm is messed up, where they have a map and there are no names on the map and they tell people like, what country is this? And people will say, Africa, London, and I'm like, forget about not knowing what country it is. Do you not know the difference between a city in a country and a continent? And apparently there are millions of Americans who do not. And this is the era we live in where it's not enough to be racist. It's also, you gotta be dumb on top of it. You have to be uneducated and really sheltered. I can't even call it sheltered. What are you being sheltered from? But isn't racism, isn't that just, I mean, isn't it just ignorance? Like, aren't they synonyms? No, no, because there's ignorance of like the other, right? Of I don't speak this language, so I must fear them. There's ignorance because I haven't experienced this culture. That's okay. Everyone is entitled to be ignorant until they are shown illumination. Because they're just things that we don't know about, right? And have never encountered. But like to know, hey, there are 50 states. And also these are like territories that the United States kind of controls, like Guam and Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands. Like to not know that, to not know that, or for instance, to not know that there is no official language of in the United States. And this is stuff that comes from way, way back. Why? Because they came from places where people were persecuted for not knowing the quote, official language of the land. So these are things to me, you can be the most ignorant person, ignorant, I've never met a black person. I've never met a Puerto Rican. You can be ignorant, but there are things that you should have known anyway. You can say, oh, I'm afraid of Puerto Ricans. But you can't say they're not American because that's just patently false. Don Lebatard. There's sunglasses in boxes today. But in my bed in the hospital, ending our lives all the same. Stugads. It's the final nightgown. This is the Don Lebatard show with the Stugads. I know the Pauls are involved in WWE and wrestling. Could be something going on here. Is there like a bit of like a... Oh, WrestleMania's in two months. Is there a situation where we can see the Paul Brothers versus Benito in a massive, like what would be a bigger draw than those two sides? Logan Paul is the all-time greatest pro wrestler and Bob Bunny is really good as well. So this is maybe Logan Paul wanting a future match with Bad Bunny and just being like, ooh, that was not me. I don't agree with him. There were credible reports over the weekend that Bad Bunny was going to be returning to WWE sooner rather than later. Was it the quote? Guys, you're not picking up the breadcrumbs here. Come on now. It's not Logan Paul versus Bad Bunny. It's Logan Paul with Bad Bunny versus Jake Paul. And whoever the most racist guy in the WWE, there's a lot to pick from. That's the two-on-two that you want right there. Fighting for the side of good versus dumbasses. I guess the distinction we're making between ignorance and racism not being synonyms is that not all ignorance is racist, but all racism is ignorance. Is it not? I suppose, Dan, but I guess my thing is I can see a world where someone is virulently racist, but also somehow knows it's worldly. I know that Puerto Rico is part of the United States. I just don't like Puerto Ricans. That guy exists somewhere. I'm interested by the whole thing and I'm a WWE fan, so I thought initially it was a WWE thing, but then I remembered Jake Paul was sitting next to JD Vance all day at the Olympics. And his perspective is a little skewed as one of these center points in the manosphere universe. As someone that is now just realizing the script is being flipped, they're not the popular guys anymore, and they're getting ratioed now. And I don't think that he knew where pop culture was at this time. Mike, doesn't he train out of Puerto Rico? He lives in Puerto Rico. Yeah, he lives there. He lives there. Yeah, he gets announced from Puerto Rico. That's not a... How do you... How, guys? Like, how does that happen? For tax reasons. What do you mean how does it happen? Like, they're whole like, connective tissue to the world as we know it is skewed because they like the power that they've gotten. They've been invited to inaugurations. They see that every move that they've made over the last 10 years has been rewarded with power and access to some of the most powerful people in the world. Yeah, I guess so. He did try and clarify, Jake Paul, early this morning what he meant by fake citizen. Yeah, I think he was reading the room that he was in. That's my gimmick. With JD Vance thinking that that was what America was, and that's what the sentiment was, and it's clearly not. Yeah, he tweeted here, he's not a fake citizen obviously because he's Puerto Rican. I love Puerto Rico and all Americans who support the country. More so, Bunny is fake because of his values and criticism of our great country. Go live in Puerto Rico taking out what has now, what has always been a national hero, but the guy literally put the country's flag on his shoulder and had that as one of the iconic moments in a Super Bowl halftime show that was entirely Spanish and a love letter to his own country. I think Jake Paul is gonna have to go back to Puerto Rico and see some of these faces. In the six months of the year that he does live there, because that's how the tax brackets work. If you live there for six months, you don't have to claim taxes, but if you live there for more than six months, yeah. I mean, I want you though to tell me because I've been, and blissfully I might add, sort of disconnected from social media so I can imagine what the reaction is to bad Bunny. Doing what I am calling the single most Hispanic thing I've ever seen televised on American mainstream television yesterday. It was obviously artfully and proudly a showing of his cultural heritage in a way that had to be moving to people who have not only overcome a hurricane ravaged electricity blockout, but also had to endure during the election cycle. Tony Hinchcliffe getting up at the Republican National Convention and saying that Puerto Rico is just a trash island to see that moment happen for Puerto Rico was, to me, a moving thing and a simple non-polarizing celebration of heritage. Now it can only be polarizing because all that was was a party. All that was is look at how Hispanic we are and the only objection to it can be, I don't like how Hispanic they are. Yeah, first of all, top number one of all time set design for Super Halftime Show. It was incredible, right? Like him going through the tall grass and the little bodega and all that stuff. It was incredible. I felt transported. It didn't feel like we were at the Super Bowl. It felt like we were in a music video being shot. And then I think this goes back to what we keep talking about, which is the only way you can say this is un-American is if you basically say this country is about white, people and white men in particular and anything that is a divergence from that becomes un-American, which again, flies in the face of why this country was created to begin with, like the ideals of a melting pot, the ideals of like, hey, we're not going to be like these other places that have an official language and an official religion, right? We're going to be a place that is welcoming and open and tolerant for people to practice whatever they practice and speak whatever they speak. And to reject that is to me, the most anti-American thing you can do. I mean, let me get your thoughts on something I brought up earlier in the show in regards to the NBA. So I'm being serious when I brought this up about the Utah Jazz. You saw what happened on Saturday night where the Jazz were playing a normal game at the Orlando Magic. Yeah. You know, Laurie Markiden, Jared Jackson Jr. They're both having great games and the Jazz are ahead going into the fourth quarter and then Will Hardy sits all of his starters, except Ace Bailey, sits all of his starters, including Jackson and Markiden, doesn't play them a minute in the fourth quarter. And obviously we understand the MO there. We understand what's going on. I mean, that's point shaving. Like there's a strategic decision being made in game to stop winning and I'm making moves in order for us to lose now. How is that not point shaving? Yeah, it's not strategic. What happened was they said something about his mama and then he's like, you know what? You guys don't get to play anymore and he benched them. And then in the game, they apologize. The next game, they'll start again, but I have a feeling somewhere in around the third quarter, if they're up again, they're gonna say something about Will Hardy's mama and then he'll get angry and be like, you guys are better. But it's not point shaving. It can plausibly be argued that it's not point shaving because you're just putting in worse starters, but they're still trying. They're not actively trying to lose. Dan, the players are not actively trying to lose. That's what I mean. The Hardy, but Will Hardy and the organization are actively trying to lose. This is the part where when you welcome gambling as a function of your sport, the way we have in American sports, meaning that it's fully integrated and there's money being, cash being infused, there are certain activities that in a prior period, war or not, you don't look twice at, now are offensive. And Zazz is absolutely right. Will Hardy, whether it's his decision or an organizational decision, we'll say the Utah Jazz actively manipulated the outcome of a game. That happened. We know why they did it. We know why they did it. It's because their pick is top eight protected and they don't want it to convey. And I get it. And I'm all right with that. But the problem is we are welcoming in hundreds of millions of dollars of people betting on these outcomes. And so if I'm someone who bet the Jazz plus the points and they're up and I'm like, this is great. My bet's gonna pay off. And all of a sudden, without any logical in-universe explanation, in-game explanation, the coach sits all of his best players, thus reversing the outcome of the game, that's a big problem. That's a huge problem and it needs to be addressed. But again, there's like one on a long list of things that Adam Silver has not had a tight reign on. We had our scorned lover type of emotional reaction, Giannis and his prediction market partnership. But the timing on it was curious. And I'm interested to hear your thoughts on it. Yeah, a lot of people are like, oh, the league has to step in. I'm like, doesn't the government have to step in? Right? If I said, oh man, tide sucks. Oh my God, I can't stand tide detergent. And then all of a sudden it comes out that, you know, I'm the CEO of tide, but I've sold all my stock. Right? That's crazy. This is insider trading pretty much. He manipulated a futures market of some sort. Now the problem is Cal-Chi and what's the other one called Polymarket, they're not regulated at all. Draft Kings and Fandle and Fanatics, they all have to be basically within the rules and regulations of American law. These places don't and they get to do whatever. And they can advertise for it freely over American airways. If I'm Draft Kings or any of these other gambling houses, I'm super pissed because these guys get to play without following any of the rules that the rest of us have to follow, one. And two, what they're doing there is a very great example of unregulated behavior where you can have someone be at the center, dare I say, manipulate the news in order to be able to profit from it. That's just crazy. I mean, good talking to you. Thank you for stopping by. We appreciate it. Jeremy, what are your thoughts here on the song that you have produced? How do you feel about it? Obviously, we rushed you. We made you do it very, very quickly. I did my best. OK, that's not a ringing endorsement for whatever is next here. Shout out Miller Light. All right, let's see what we have here. As Jeremy says, it's not so hard to do a cover commercial. Slay me. I look around and moments are legendary. Golden color, it draws me. God multifile me with some duff, the notes. I said, ooh, I'm drinking Miller Light. It leaves all of the beers in the dust. I said, ooh, I'm drinking Miller Light. When I need a beer, it's the one I trust. That could totally be a commercial. I stand corrected. That was good. Told you. I need it to be faster and better, please. Thank you.
