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But then I was like, Vanity, it's funny that you and I are, I think we're so close. I said, you know, Katya and Courtney are like so close. And I was like, we're kind of a court. And Vanity said something like, I'm the Katya. And I was like, yeah, kind of. It's not exactly. It's not. No, it's. No, that's not, it's not. We're evil twins. I'm your evil twin. I'm your bizarro doppelganger. You're the healthy version of me. Yes. We're seeing that. The doppelganger. Who's doppelganging? Who? You look like her. No, no, no. This is what this is. This is what this is. Choppelganger. Oh, I learned about this. We don't look like I'm the evil, dark, ugly version of her. That's the, that's the thing. So she makes the good choice. I make the bad choice, but we're almost exactly the same age. Even though we look 10 years apart. Vanity was over yesterday. And I was like, can I ask you a question about Courtney? She said, what? I said, was she always like this? She said, what do you mean? I said, perfect. And she was like, yeah, kind of. It's a little annoying. I said in the kicker, she's also a really good person. That last part's true, but I have photographic evidence that proves the contrary. I was not visually perfect or perfect on stage. Well, nobody's perfect on stage. Vanity, Vanity calls it the hungry alley cat. She said she turned around and looked down and she said, she thought you were a lesbian. Yeah. I was wearing this like when we first met in like the year 2000, because she was like Vanity. Right. And I was like, yeah. How old were you? 18. Oh my God. Yeah. And it gives crossy, crossy, really crossy vibes. I would think you looked like Robin. Right now I do. No, she gave like, you know, like a puffer jacket with blonde hair. Yeah. A big yellow, heli Hansen puffer jacket and like, uh, like a green PVC trousers with buffalo boots that had like a four inch flat. 2000s, right? 2000s. Y2K. Y2K. Love the fashion. And this boy that I knew who was like friends with the boy that I had a crush on. This is like the first week in Sydney was like, I know Vanity, I can introduce you if you want. And I was like, oh my God. I'm like tapped on her shoulder. It was like, in my mind, it was like film noir. It was the second level of Stonewall. The Vanity, the Venetian blinds were like spilling light in off the street. She was dressed as hit me baby one more time, Brittany tapped her on the shoulder and she turned around. She was like, Oh, hello. Can I help you? And I was like, hi, I'm Shane. Can I buy you a drink? And I was like, I was like, weird and I did trying to fuck. And they've been fucking ever since that one. Get up. All you drink. Are you okay? Oh, you came. Why do people say that? I'm sorry to pivot. It's funny because I feel like I texted you this recently because like just one day, everybody on Grindr all of a sudden just started writing, are you okay? And I was like, you're right. You're actually correct. Nobody ever says that word in the continental United States. No, one time ever. Are you okay? No, but we use a lot of words. Are you down? You know what? I also hate. Are you horned? Oh, I'm honed. Horned is weird. Because I just think that's one. Are you? I'm not that much just at home. Horned. Horned. Like I'm just horned. Yeah, I don't like that. Like a pig. Like a pig is horned. Yeah, I'm tough. Yeah. Have you seen that movie Tusk? I did. What do you think of that? What you watch it? Is it about Alton? It's very vegan, actually. Yeah, you would love it. This guy is he had a loving kinship with a walrus and the walrus died and he's a scientist and he kidnaps someone and your documentary or script. No, it's a script. No, it's very scripted. And he kidnaps someone and uses surgeries to turn him into a walrus. It's just like it sounds. The guy gets cut off the legs, sharpen the femurs to make Tusk. It's crazy. And then there's just an ending shot of him going. Is there a psychosexual element to this? I think it's sort of implied that he fucked the walrus. I find it horned. You're tusked. She's very tusked. I'm far up right now. Are you tusked? I've got my legs crossed for a reason. Tusk and son. Lee Daniels. Have you seen Lee Daniels the butler? No. Have you seen Lee Cronin's The Mummy? No. Have you seen The Deliverance? No. You haven't seen The Deliverance? I don't think I've seen Bridesmaids. No, no, no. Deliverance or... Isn't it The Deliverance? The Deliverance is the one with Glenn Close. Yeah. OK, because Deliverance is very different. That's with Glenn Far. No, that's... It's with the getting it fucked in the woods. Getting graped in the woods by hillbillies. Right. You know, that's a famous banjo and that indicates... I have a question. Yes. I was just yesterday thinking, we are coming up to some kind of anniversary of you winning Big Brother. Wasn't it about COVID times? The bicentennial. No, it was 2018 and it was January. Let's go through all of you. Do you remember that? I mean, obviously you do, but do you remember that? I remember the fucking... Do I remember? What do you remember? Because I was trapped inside a house, so I have no idea what was going on. What made it over to your side? I was on tour at the time and I remember thinking like, okay, drag queens win drag race all the time, but a drag queen winning a popular competition of like... Strawl random people. Mainstream. Liking you or not liking you. Network. That was so inspiring. Oh. Was that not inspiring? Enough people weren't immediately like, fuck her, she has a wig on. You know what I mean? I mean, that would happen now. And who was that your co-defendant and something? And Whiticum in 23 years of parliament. Your co-defendant. Co-defendant. I don't think... Co-defendant. Your person you almost... You went against for the win. Yes. Colleague. And Whiticum in 23 years of parliament, she voted against every single piece of Pro-LGBT legislation that ever came before her. So the end of big brother, love your big brother. She hates fags. She hates fags, but she loved me. She was like, Shane's the kind of boy you want your grandson to be. Courtney's a tart. And I was like, yeah, that's true. Damn. Is tart good? Is it slutty? She meant it in a bad way. Like tart would be like the highest form of insult. She as a Catholic woman could. I just remember you sitting there and you're in like a side tinsel ponytail. So it's Anne. Anne is like... In a green teal. Anne looks like what she does for a living. She looks like a... A seven year old woman. Yes. And then across the couch you have Courtney. Courtney, I feel like I have this memory of you like sitting like... Oh. Sitting like this. It's like a side tinsel pony. And the makeup is glitter brows. A blue glitter brow. Waiting to see who wins. And also don't you remember when she... The nudity. Excuse me, don't I remember? Do I not have a life size HD4K print out laser jet on my wall? Or are you... You just jack it too. Are you the... And then the just the clear tape. Barely concealing your taped up genitals. Like vacuum packed chicken breasts. Yes, exactly. It was frozen food section. It was so cunt, literally. Literally. I was like, that is such a fabulous... This was like one of the stunts before a lot of stunts. It was stunts. And your posture is like... It's so... It's very vulnerable. It's very lumbumb. It's like very ballsy. I'm trying to imagine what... I don't know if I remember the moment. I just remember like stepping off the step and feeling it drop. And I think I was probably like trying to catch it with the cook a minute. Yes. You were like... What's crazy is that picture... The unedited picture was not hard to find. No. I photoshop so many people's faces onto it. You can't really see genitals. You just see the UPS store. Like you just see tape in a barcode or something. Like you can't see pussy lips or like a dick head or something. No, but there's flesh. It's clear. It's just like an armpit. Or an elbow crack. It's a pubis. Right, right, right. It's just a pubis. But they blood it. Because I think the feminine head. It's like this issue that we have when you're on Instagram or YouTube, where people are like, it's a lady, but it's a man and the algorithm doesn't know how to... No, that's not the picture, honey. I want the one with the face, with the expression. But speaking of... So when she pulls it up, I have a very serious question about censorship on Instagram because I... Free the nipple. Yes. And also blur maybe the scalping bone tomahawk. I saw a clip from this video called... What are you talking about? I'll tell you, bone tomahawk came up on Instagram, a clip. A prisoner, Kurt Russell's in this movie. I saw a prisoner get scalped, then his dick cut off, then flipped up and hacked in half and pulled apart. For real or for acting? Well, in a movie. In a movie, okay. But if a movie with Jennifer Aniston's nipples pop out, it will be blocked. Well, Valentina's famously. Yeah. It'll be deleted. The nipple to be blood. Deleted and blocked and your account will be closed. When I'm doing drag videos in drag, because I do drag, when I'm doing the makeup videos, if I'm shirtless, once I have the wig and the lashes on, you have to blur the nipples. I know. But they literally showed him getting... No, like YouTube will like flag it as like female nipple. They scalped him, hacked off his dick. That's fine. That's fine. It was, it almost made me puke and I love gore. Thank you. Blur it. I have a question. Yes. What made you wanna do Celebrity Big Brother? I'm sorry to make you talk about this. It's so long ago. That's okay. I didn't, which is the funny thing because, okay. You know, like sliding doors moments. I just watched that movie. So good. I remember getting the call, cause I did this dating show on MTV called Singles Fuck. And it was like me, team mom, Farrah Abraham. No way. Marnie Simpson from Jordy Shaw. Amazing. Jedwood. No way. Two of them? Both dating women, which came as a shock to everybody, including each other, I think. And we like, we floor around the world going to different countries, dating people. Oh, that's worse. No. Oh, go ahead. Don't you feel like if Courtney, if your body has Red Bull, it'll just like disintegrate? No, she has. The amount of supplements she travels with, you have no idea. She mostly got vitamins. Vitamins. She's got like, she's like Pat McGrath with the makeup. It's like she travels with 82 C cases, two cases of vitamins. And I've also got like something that'll cure whatever ails you. Like if I'm away and I'm traveling, I need like... A tincture potion. Have I got an itchy eye? Is my throat scratchy? Is something going on with my middle ear? How's my anus? Now, are you on the gray market buying peptides? That's what people want to know. Not yet. Are you on extremepeptides.com? No, but you know what I did? Choosing whether I want to talk about this. We're getting back to it. 2010, I purchased Melanitane 2 off the internet. 2010. Clif- Pfft. Corden- He's not even born. You gotta bleep that name. We can't give him any air time. Okay, fair. Sorry, it's personal. It's personal. Corden has been looks-maxing for a very long time. It's just called being gay. It's just called looking good. It's just called looking your best. Brush your hair bitch. Wash your face. Put on some clothes that don't look ugly. I remember looks-maxing the females in my school when I was in high school. in high school. I, like, I, for some reason, have this vivid memory. It was coming up to the school formal and I was thinking about all the girls getting dressed for the formal. I went with the school captain, the female school captain, and I chose her outfit, obviously. And you top model her. You bleached her hair. Dental work. No, the swan. The swan. We're gonna need 18 months to get ready. But I remember looking around the classroom and looking at each girl and thinking like, I legitimately remember thinking every single one of these women is beautiful. And like, if they, if there's like a process of uncovering, like carving the statue of David from the rock of Marvel, they're all in there. And I just remember thinking that and I feel like that was, I invented Lux Maxing in the 90s, guys. That's what I'm saying. So I'm so sorry to tell you, Corny, that Lux Maxing has existed since the dawn of time. I just don't have that stupid word to describe it. You know what the real kicker is? And I say this as a bald person. I think one of my biggest things is when you see somebody who just needs a haircut. Oh yeah. When I see the girls with the super long hair, but it's all one length and it's super heavy. And it's like, your hair is healthy and beautiful. A different haircut. You would look like a shampoo commercial. Or a different eyebrow. Or when it's time to just shave the head. There was a goal on the. It's time to show Mary. I follow. I follow this Reddit. It's time to shave. I follow this Reddit for Balding men where they post a picture themselves and they say, is it time? Where people say whether or not it's time. It's sometimes they are like, you have a couple years, but I'm telling you 99% of these posts are people who only have hair on the sides like fire tuck and it's like one hair on top. And they're like, is it time? And like that depends. Are you 50 or 20? Yeah. Is it time to look good? Is it time to look good? The phobia of being shaved headed bald should not be stronger than the phobia of looking like patchy McWilliams. I couldn't agree more. And I get a unit. Get a unit. No, don't or don't get a unit. I love my unit, but I am so constantly perplexed. I mean, I guess people say that people have told me and I suspect they've told you that you have a not weird looking head. Is that right? Yeah. People love to say that. They love to say that. I have, I have, I have, I know people who are young. Like, no, like I'm talking to people who are young. I know people who are in their twenties who are doing it. Homeovers. They're doing it. Right. And they're trying to do magic up there. They're trying to do the wizarding world of Harry Potter up there to get that thing. I feel like the people who have receding hairlines have tricked the rest of the world into styling their hair in a comb over. It's even if you have a full thick luxurious shiny head of hair. Oh, it's diabolical. It's diabolical. Like there's, there's like hairstyles that I'm like, that's a, that's a receding hairline cover up hairdo. And you've got a thick hair line. A bald person. That is like you are Mr. Burns and you're trying to pull all that shit up there and you're not even 30. It's okay. Baby shave the head. Shave the head. Shave the head. Well, we want to do, um, Wigs by Vanity, I want to do a range of, um, rugs for gays. Like, but like fun ones, like not, not quite as nice as yours. Like not a human maybe, but like fun synthetic ones that you could, if anybody who has a fade could just like pin on a piece and have like a fun, fabulous, flirty, like high hair. How much you wanted that? What's the price point? Well, it would be pretty cheap because I mean, it's not like a glue down. It's not going to be hand knotted. I feel like it'll be like a machine top kind of crown of a wig. Crush one of the crush on Mitzi. 50 parts. Yeah. Just chop up a few back stocks. Vanity told me that the Mitzi is coming back. It is coming back. I'm so excited. The Mitzi. The Mitzi. Guys, did you drink off the Mitzi? I don't fuck with the Mitzi. It's like a cone that like, Oh, I know the Mitzi. But I'm really horny for that Pamela topper you guys have. Wait, is that the fringe? Pam? It's the topper. It's just like, it's like the Mitzi comb, but it's curls. Okay. You cannot come for Pamela Anderson. Yeah. It is your product, Courtney. My God. Listen, she's been out of the warehouse for very, for a couple of years. I'm back now. I'm working on the floor. I'm just making her way out of the room. You got demoted. No, I got to give it up to Vanity for those motherfucking color mixes because that beautiful. There's no other. Raquel Welch eats shit. Beverly Johnson goes stuck. She's actually like pioneered this. Like she's actually like with the factory, like developing techniques. Did you know I invented tinsel wigs? I did know this. I wish you hadn't. Vanity also told me that you are the person responsible for getting RuPaul in Vanity Wigs. Now if we could just get them a little on her head. Well, I don't know if she wears, because now she's been wearing all those white ones. She stands in front of them. I didn't think they're owls. But RuPaul, we don't want to take responsibility for those hairlines. But she, I remember RuPaul would wear the Mattelblond sometimes, the yellow, it looks so good. Well, Matthew Anderson gave me a lock of RuPaul's hair. This is before I was on Drag Race, because I said I was at a 613. He was like, no, Rukhart wears 613 because it washes her out. She needs that really yellow color. And so he gave me a lock of two of her wigs from Yindies. And we had those copied in our factory. And one of them is called the Glamison and the other is called the shade of RuPaul. Yes. Yes. Yes. Raymond also, she also looks good in that. She wore that red from you guys sometimes. If you look at season seven, I've rewatched season seven, all hair by Matthew. Her every episode, her hair is gone. It's amazing. We rewatched season seven last year in the hairography and it's just so beyond. The makeup too, she's stunning. But Vanity's color, the Vespelon, ever the ash, the cool blonde. Yeah. And the mixes are so... And the Mr. Straight, because the Fiverr has actually died. Because I remember the beginning, the first rooted one, which drew war on season six. I came out for the... Get out of here. The scary challenge in like week three, whatever it was called. Drag Race Me to Hell. And I walked out and I was like, RuPaul is wearing an LOL. Was it the black and gray? The white with the really dark room. That is so surreal. And I couldn't tell anyone. I didn't even tell Bianca. I was like, I could have screamed it. I can't tell anybody that RuPaul is wearing my wig and I'm like on the main stage looking at... No, I just kept it to myself because I was like, I don't want to... I felt like that would... Oh, how the sausage is made? Yeah. Or like, I know those shoes. Like I'm curring favor or like I'm... I don't know. I know what you mean. I have a handicap, but like in golf, not... I don't think anybody thinks RuPaul's curring favor for you. And you're definitely not a handicap. That's... It's the lock of hair. Maybe that was the sliding door. That was the moment everything changed. I should have been like, you're wearing my wig. And then she would be here right now with you instead of us. Right. Bald. I'd not be bald. Can you be bald? RuPaul's like, we can be friends. I have to shave your head every day though. Today's episode of Bald and the Beautiful is brought to you by Veracity. You guys, I'm 36 years old. My metabolism is changing. I'm revaluating my relationship with everything around me, including food. And I just want to be able to feel good about myself, but not do anything too extreme. I'm always with my system being so sensitive. I'm always scared of doing something too wild. 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I thought maybe it was like similar area. I don't know. Well, it's just thinking about this yesterday. How did they get two places called something shore that were like Jordy and Jersey? They're like such similar words. Oh, oh, GEO. Yeah. Yeah. Because people from Newcastle are called Jordy's. Hey, mama, it's trash. Shane G. That's a Jordy accent. Yeah. That's that's a very good. I keep doing a York. I try to do a Yorkshire accent when it's Jordy. It's very different. But Mary, it is it is turnt up in Newcastle. She gets the party. That was the first thing. You guys know I've been to Newcastle. I have a second. Do you know what I'm talking about then? Okay. Yes. You agree? It's crazy. It is crazy. Like it has a different like maybe I don't know if they experience you guys. The party vibe is is turned up to. I saw two women at like 9 30 like drunker than vanity. Yes. Wearing holding their high heels. Paralletic drunk. In the sparrow. Paralletic drops in freezing cold weather. In freezing cold weather with McDonald's bags. Like shoes. Like as shoes with hair ties wrapped around to like hold the McDonald's bags as they like. As if that compares to when I was in Brisbane and saw kids huffing glue at the McDonald's. Oh that's different. And everyone in Brisbane was like yeah. Like nobody was like oh no. They were like yeah that's breezy. This is like pre-gaming is not even it's just always a game in Newcastle. There's no pre-game. There's no pre-game. It's like ass up. You get ready. You don't have to stay ready. Facing the gutter 6 p.m. Sun hasn't gone down. That's Jordy. That's like crazy. So a girl from Jordy Shore was like you'd be great on celebrity stuff. You know I should have always getting back to the yeah back to the plot. People were very like alarmed and outraged the first time when you were away and I was with Cartier and people were like how did Courtney like cycle back like seven tangents and bring us back to the plot and finish the story. And I said to this girl Marnie I'm like people don't know who I am. People don't people aren't going to care about who I'm not going to be on Celebrity Big Brother in the UK. But it had just gone on Netflix in the UK and every because that was in the time when people still had to illegally download Drag Race to watch it. Right. So I went on Celebrity Big Brother which felt like a real level jump and I remember at the time look I've healed my Drag Race trauma. I actually am extremely grateful for all of it obviously and I love RuPaul and like all of the anyway. Less ISIS video weren't authentic next time. I'm just kidding. No we feel that we feel all the same way. We love we love Drag Race we love RuPaul. I've healed it all and it's it's a nice feeling. Instagram heals the world. And destroys it at the same time. It's like you and me. What no. I guess my yin and yang. Go sorry go ahead. How did you get the job? Why won't you tell me? Like the way I keep asking how you got on Big Brother who's there. With the interrupting sheep. The interrupting. So the Marnie was like you should talk to my agent and then her agent like pitched me and I got the job and I. Marnie the designer. Pardon. Marnie the designer. No Marnie from Jordi Sharks. That's the story I waited for her agent pitched it and they said yes. But you're all are so fucked. I was going to say no. Thank God I'm here. I legitimately was going to say no. I remember talking about it with Wendy my manager because I was so like like traumatized by Drag Race. Oh yeah. And I was like I don't think I could put myself through that again. What if I came out the other side and everybody hated me. Like I don't know I'm going to say no. Then I said no and then obviously said yes. And told not a single soul. I was on tour with Willem and Alaska. We were performing at GAY New Year's Eve like the night before. Oh triple A girls. Didn't say a word to them. Yeah. Now that's a secret keeper baby. We were at Tom Daley's house like the sun is coming up party going on. And didn't say a word to anybody. You can't tell. Well Willem would tweet it and Alaska would be jealous she killed herself. High five on that secret keeping. That is some top. That should be a mission impossible. It's almost easier to tell no one because like one person is worse. At that point tell no one. A hundred percent. One person means 12. One person means 12. Yes. And then it's just logarithmic after that. Interestingly the night before I went in the I did tell Bianca the day before because they were like she could keep a secret. They might want somebody to like do that after show. She has no one in her life. Well she gets a text message from Michelle Visage because remember Michelle Visage was obsessed with. She's in the big brother mafia. Yes. She was on before me. She went on fifth. I was going to say she must be like she was like top five or something. And she because even the year before Bianca had been asked to go and do the after show and she was she's she was quite territorial about the thing. And so then she I think found out from production that I was on and had texted Bianca like what's this about Courtney being on big brother. And she was like I don't know girl. I haven't heard anything. And then went into the house came out a month later a winner baby. It was so exciting when you won plucked. I'm not I wasn't surprised. I mean I don't know anything about the show. But you're a winner. Michelle Michelle told me it was really really hard. Did you find it like mentally taxing? You know what I loved every second until I went into that house and I became one of the boys like one of the straight boys. I would be outside in the smoking area until the dawn chorus started in the morning. Drinking with the straight men. No it was just the three straight three straight. No but I did have a bromance. And then I had a foil in Anne. And so I had that like perfect balance apparently from the outside. And then tell me in a nutshell for someone who doesn't I don't watch any of these shows and I I don't understand what you do and I don't research it. I should do nothing. It's whoever whoever's the biggest brother. Is the winner honestly. So if you are the largest have the most siblings. You put the two puts on the most white season. And Courtney an only child of 90 pounds won. She won. But no but like can you tell me in three sentences like pitch the show to me. You're in a house. Like try to get me on it. Okay so you're living in a house together. There's 12 people that you don't know. That sounds like a nightmare. And you do nothing all day long. No I'm telling you. You're just watching. You're just talking to people. You do nothing. You like buy groceries and you just like have conversations and because it's 24 hours in a day and people get bored shit happens. They do have challenges that occur. They can't watch TV. No TV. They can't listen to music. No really. You cannot listen to music. No because they're recording a whole time. Because it's 24 hours and some people pay premium. And your headphones. Headphones don't. Some people pay premium to basically watch 24 hours a day. The cameras are on all day. You're not even allowed to take a nap. Up the pillow. The only place there's no camera is in the bathroom and they do have microphones. Do you know about that horror movie about the zombie outbreak during a show like that? There's a horror movie about there's a zombie outbreak. It's about the cast of a show like that and the outbreak happens outside the walls. Yes actually I think I've seen it and we thought because it was one night they do live shows twice a week and it was a Friday night and there was no live show. And we all thought that Queen Elizabeth had died because there's a rule with the BBC where you're not allowed to broadcast any new whatever when she dies. She died during Queen of the Universe. But she was only of the Queen of England. She was. Graham Norton told us. Oh wow. Oh I don't know if I'm supposed to say that but Graham Norton got the T before the news. Graham Norton I think cut a text. He is the news. It was like here's the T. It was from Charles. But they explained to us when we were filming they said we're not going to tell the audience because we're filming in London. It'll be such a downer. Yeah and the artists are getting ready to do their show. Yeah. Oh it was like that was a great performance despite Queen Elizabeth's death. Greg Queen is performing on Thursday night in Los Angeles. Brazilian. Yeah. She was on Queen of the Universe. She is incredible. She won season one. She won a million dollars. $150,000. Of course. Pounds. Pounds. Dollars. But she told me she told us that the conversion rate to Brazil it was like a lot of money. She won a Brazilian dollars. Yes. That's a lot of money in Brazil. It was a Brazilian dollars. You're a con. She's a Brazilian heir. She's such a good singer. She's such a good singer. Oh my god. I message her you're away aren't you. Are you here? Thursday. Yeah. I don't know. Oh we have a show. Yeah we have a gig. We're out of town. Oh I love a college gig. So now that you've explained it horribly. We're going to explain it well it sounds horrible. Can you try to pitch it to me? Like you're my agent. I don't know if I can. I mean the original setup is that it was a social experiment to watch what happens. But there's so many seasons of it now. To me it seems it says boring survivor. So the audience watching. Indoor. It's about conversation. Oh well I think if to gab. Yeah. You would do very well. I would go out of my mind without listening to music. I would go out of my mind. You know what's interesting. Enjoyed the whole whole thing. Had these boys who I was like mates with. And then like a week before the end. They all got voted off. And then I was left with Anne. Amanda Barry who's an older lesbian actress. And another older man Wayne Sleep who's a gay man who's a ballerina. Like in the Royal Ballet. And the three of them were all of a similar age. And the two gays ended up turning on me. And siding with Anne. The person who had voted against all of their rights throughout their entire lives. And it was like this weird thing. Threatened me a perfect glasses. Amanda came into the bathroom once. I'm like seeing they're doing my makeup. And she was like drunk. And like you need to stop like coming for Anne blah blah blah. I'm like I literally have done nothing. But have nice conversations with her about her voting record. And then she was she stormed out of the room. She turned around. She was like and another thing. I worked with Danny LaRue. And I know that drag queens aren't sloppy. That skirt falling off on the way in. That was a setup. And I was like I meant to like stormed out. And I was like that's beer. She was right. Don't you think if it was a setup you would have had panties on or panties. Beach. Oh I thought it was a stunt. No. Also I can't believe you thought that skirt was real. I hadn't made the night before I went in. That's no excuse. Because I had a top. It looked safety pinned. It was pop studs. Thank you. That's what I'm saying. I can't believe you thought you'd I can't believe you were surprised it fell off. I thought it was a planned stunt. It was like that Paiette fabric right. It was like really it's like super sequins. Yeah. I had this amazing outfit that Howie made. There was three pieces. It was like a jacket, a top and shorts. And it was my favorite out of all the outfits I was taking in. But I was like you can't go in in shorts. You have to wear a gown. And so I messaged my stylist Frank and he found a piece of the exact same fabric. It was like that was the whole scrap of fabric that he bought and like turned into a skirt. 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I wear the same size, except I'm apparently 50 pounds heavier than you. Well, now I have to extend everything in the back. Oh, did you not come up with it? How did you find out when caught you shitting your bed? She told me. Thank you. Honestly, it's the best policy. I've only heard her side of it. Honestly, it's the best policy. Oh, maybe milk was milk staying there at the time? Mitch was there. Oh, this is when Jennifer too. Yeah, down the chute. Listen, I gave her the gift of an identity. She had no head. She had a Viking funeral. Could you just imagine, though, if you're like going to the trash? Imagine my mom. The dumpster in a building and you're in LA. Anything has happened and this is like a dismembered corpse? No. Imagine my mom having to imagine my mother. Yes. My mother. Mother. Mother. Lee Cronin's my mother having to carry or not having to carrying a box. Getting to. Getting to carry a box. Having to fortune. A box that said mega fuck slut, 25 pounds of fuckable pussy and ass. Her gay son, crack head. It's just amazing. I was like, she does women. He just likes women with no heads, no arms and no legs. It's very incel adjacent. Like, no, it's not like I like women, but I just like them to be dismembered. No, I have an appreciation for torsos. Why did you buy the kick out of the, the, the, the. And porn when they're fucking the toy that looks like a miniature woman's butt. Oh, I had like with a little, a little, the tiniest pair of tits. I have one of those. No, it's like the tiniest pair of tits with a tiny butt and fucking. I was like, this is so corny. I haven't seen those. That's crazy. Well, there's a whole. Well, little Barbie pussy that stretches. There is a whole. Oh my God. So this is genre of porn. It's okay. See. See diff. No, no, no, no, no. See FNM. See hit no porn. See FNM. What do you think it stands for? Country. No, no, no. Clothed female naked male. Oh. And then, and then, and adjacent to that is like. Minatures. So like, like fucking miniature women or miniature guys, like actual humans who are little people. No, no, no, it's all like animated or whatever. Like computer porn or whatever. But it's very woke to be like, I'll watch the porn if the women can keep their clothes on. No, but it's, but I, I, I stumbled upon it because I don't like hardcore porn. I like, I mean, I like, like cinemax. I want to see them making love. Let's take a break. Fuck off. I want to see them making love. No, but it's like, I love Gauzy. I don't want to see Jenny. You don't need to. Film noir. But yeah, like I want lighting, but there's this, it goes like this, like, it's like two women. It's like humiliation adjacent to it gets into that, but like two women will be clothed and like, they're like, call a guy into the office and then they say, he's naked and he'll be like, could I please put my clothes on? And they're like, no. Oh, interesting. And that's it. Power. Oh, it's like a shame thing. Yeah. Yeah. Huh. Interesting. See clothed female naked male. Have you heard of Sissy Hypnoporn? Of course. That queen from Newcastle. Sissy Hypnoporn. That Jordy Shore queen. One of my lovers. Welcome from the Jordy Shore. Oh, Jen is Dick and your son. She's from Newcastle. Jen is Dick and your son. I think she's maybe from Newcastle. Sarah Jessica Carpac is another. Oh, that's a good one. Minivan Driver. Minivan Driver. Minivan Driver. Okay, wait, wait. Sissy Hypnoporn. There was a Toyota Corolla, but she died. But Toyota is not a real name. It kind of is. It's not. Is Beyonce? Yeah. It's not a real name. She made it. I mean, Courtney is like, there's only one, I feel like there's one woman on the planet called Beyonce. At the time Beyonce was named. Beyonce Knowles. Yeah. Do you think anybody else's name Beyonce? Now there is. I've been mentioned. People's, imagine being some kid named Beyonce. Well, there was. Oh, so you think you're Beyonce? Like it's that. Yeah. There was, who was it? There were other. Can I say, I know nothing's original. I don't know why in Caucasian culture, we don't make, why we all have five names? Oh, hang on. Oh, I love Brian. No, see, I love that though. I like, I like the Russian style. Sunday roast. I'm ashamed. I like the, I like the Russian style. There's 12 names. What's your name? Is your name shame? No, I like it. I like the Russians do it like 12 names. RuPaul RuPaul's like mom made up RuPaul. Yeah. Why aren't our moms making other names? No, they are, but they're McNavy in McBrayland. And they're spelled B-R-A-G-H-L-E-E-I-G-N. I love a meet and greet when you like, you're like, her name's like Melanie. How do you spell that? Q-L-M-P-I-I-N-S-S-I-L-N. Ireland, those traditional Irish spellings names? Yes. Or Welsh. That's so good. Yeah. I love learning how to spelling them. And then I love learning how to spell them. And then when they say their name, just spelling it correctly and then just being gagged. Oh yeah. I learned how to spell like three or four of the like. The weird, the really weird ones. Not only do we weird the Irish ones. It's the spelling. You have, if you're from Ireland, there's no way you're going to know how they're spelling these names. Or pronounced at all. I mean, Irish is so, so, so different. But wait, so are your parents ashamed of you? No, I have the most lovely supportive parents. So how long have your parents hated you? And of course, Courtney's pivot is, my family is so loving. I need to reiterate this to you because this is, this is a, not, this is a common theme of this. Every time we do get together, it is literally like the yin, what did you describe it? It's the bizarro version. Yeah. So like it's not. If everything had gone right. Yeah. Yes. Gone right, gone wrong. I mean, she makes good, it's sliding doors. Sliding doors. Except it's evil. Yeah. We're both going to the Paltrow. She gets the pixie cut. She get, I keep the brown hair, but like, and she comes over sometimes with her, three suitcases full of vitamins. And wait, did you get into the peptides? You were the originator. I did the Milanitan too in 2010. As you get a bonus, just throw up. Yeah. I wrote it because I wrote mean gaze. My song mean gaze, which came out in 2014, got played last night on Australian music video television for the first time. They're the mean, mean gaze. They live in West Hollywood. They're the mean, mean gaze. We had this conversation at ice cream last night with two of my gay friends. We're talking about mean gaze in WeHo and I don't like it. They're mean. I don't. I don't. No, but there are a lot of. I mean, the song was written in 2014. You're only catching up now. No, no, no, I know. I know that I don't go there very often and I don't. People aren't mean to me if they recognize me from the show. Otherwise, if they don't, they just push me over or run right through me. Well, I remember saying, I'm like that dumb person who's like, oh, no, everybody's nice to me. I don't understand. Yeah, because you're a gorgeous, white, famous man. And then somebody was like, watch how they treat somebody else. And I remember sitting in the smoking area and this girl asking one of them for a lighter. And he was just like, get out of here. You fat, just set her on fire and turned her to the ground. I was like, oh my God, you're right. And then the ambulance came and they run over her. It's crazy. And I was like, oh, I never, I honestly never, I'm like that dumb. Everybody's nice to me. Yeah, because you're Barbie. That's like Fina will be like, I hate that fucking bitch. And I'll be like, she's nice. And Fina will be like, she's nice to you. To you. And I'll be like, wow, yeah. And then so when, at what point did you, well, maybe the truth, you had this, but when did you realize that people were being nice to you because they wanted something from you, whether that's a picture or money or whatever? Sex. I mean, in 2010. You think people won't have sex with her? I think a lot of people do. No, I know. They do. In 2010, when I moved here was when I realized that. How could you develop a sex sense? No, because I just think like, if I'm having a good experience that I don't care. Like I can tell if somebody's like, we love good experiences. I love good experiences. They just so rarely happen to us. I've been robbed. I've been robbed in my house twice and on the street once. I've only stayed with you once. You've been, no, this seriously. I've been mugged. Were you hurt? It was like a little bit of blood. Emotionally. It was like a little bit of blood. Three or four large men. Describe in detail the experience. It was two. I've been fully mugged. You're fully mugged right now. Girl, that looks, Max, or is out mugging you. Oh my God. Does someone say mug? It was 2010. I had like a Nokia monophonic phone. Vanity was doing Nokia Nokia Nokia. You call it here. Vanity was doing turn back time share at slide and she had forgotten. She's selling time share. And I went back to her house to get the Bobby pins and I was walking up. With your phone, which is this big. It was like that big and it had to use like. Vanity sending you home for a Bobby pin. Yeah. Go find the unpublished Harry Potter book. It's so crazy. Like she can't find a Bobby pin from somewhere else. Well, we're at the club. I need you to go to my house, get on the train, ride 40 minutes over. It was walking distance to be fair. Okay. And I was walking up the hill, like minding my own business, texting on my phone and three men came out of a dark alley and like the next I just, I was on the ground. That was the first thing I knew with your legs in there. Maybe this is how like I've encapsulated trauma, but I'm not trying to sound dramatic, but I remember being, I remember laying on the ground with them kicking me in the head. Oh my God. And I remember thinking, I'm glad they're wearing sneakers and not boots. Well, that's a perfectly reasonable thought. But you don't think that when you're, I remember in the moment. I'm Leanne over here. Yeah, I was like, I'm so grateful those are just new balances. Let's look on the bright side. And I'm like, I needed a new nose anyway. Like, like I've been meaning to talk to my PCP. I'm going to go for my annual checkup. And then I got, they were like, give me a wallet and I didn't have a wallet. I have a purse. I had a Gucci money clip and I was like, but there was no money in it. And they're like, give me a wallet. And I was like, it's a money clip. It's Gucci. Please take it. And in the confusion, they were like, what? And they couldn't Google the value because it was way before the smartphones. And I get to slide. I walk in the door and Vanity's like, oh, don't worry. I got the Bobby pins. And she was like, are you all right? And I was like, no. Did you cry? Yeah. Of course you cried. And then she came, she did the number and then she came to the police station with me. She beat the shit up. As Turnback Time share because I had to report the hate crime. Where was the story 10 years ago? And then there's like a wooden pew in the police station. And I had to go into like the room where you give a statement. Vanity sits down and waits. I go into the room. I come back out. She's taken off her wig and she's sleeping on it as a pillow on the pew in the police station. And I was like, that's a friend. Did she do any in character with the stab? Snap out of it. Yeah. Yeah. I'm here to report a murder. My friend was killed. My friend was hate crimes. This is a travesty. We rewatched season seven last year because it was 10 years. So that means it's 12 years this year. Up to season six. When's the last time you watched it? I watched it during COVID. And 2020. 2020. I know. What'd you think? I really loved it. I mean, your runways are. You can't edit out a runway. You can't edit out a runway. And I got to say, I think season six in a lot of ways was the, the apex that we jumped the shark after that or turned into something else. You burn the runway every time except for that red look, that thing on your face. But I had to make that myself. Yeah. Yeah. Everything else was showstopping. I loved your wings. In a time before showstopping on the runway was really a thing. And also conceptual. They were all like. Claw snow me. Claw snow me Malone. Claw snow me. The giant hair with the Victor and Rolf bed. Victor and Rolf bed was so cool. Incredible. Like references, like a full realized like look for not a, not just like drag queen look number four. Yeah. And you know, great hairlines. Oh, and my, my Aboriginal and Australian flag gown. Oh, that's right. And you had to see that one. The, the, the wings were truly spectacular. I mean. They're now in a museum. I donated them to the powerhouse museum in Australia. The powerhouse museum. Vera, so that's called. And what else? What was your favorite look from your season? I, I mean, you can't go past the wings. Recently, it's so funny you're here. I didn't even know you're going to be here today. You didn't know I was going to be here. We only knew about you. Today, I'm gay keeping just today. They showed me a clip of season six untucked because they had the last like real. Yeah. There was a lot of real untucked. It was the one. Iconic untucked is one where Gia was yelling at milk about her. Pregnant look. The one where she's like drag is, is dressed as a girl and it's not giving feminine at all. Gia really went for the jugular look on that program. I remember having a conversation with Gia talking her out of coming out as trans on the show, like off camera. We were like talking about it. We're famous. She's very close minded. She's rolling her like this. Well, I was like, I, I was sort of like having this like weird conversation now in retrospect, especially that she is a trans woman. But I think she was like questioning at the time whether she was or was it. And I was like, I don't know if this is the place where you really want to check out information. Yeah, that's probably, it was smart PR advice. Laganjas breakdown. Oh God, you were there in real life. You were there. I'm sure it was. And also we, I mean, not to make this about us, but like you guys had a super glossy, highly produced. Some could argue just as good as the show. Untucked. I mean, iconic. We're Laganja stands as well. So many iconic moments. We walk in there. You got, you couldn't have understood what you have. You have a gen standard. You do not understand what we went through. When we walked into untucked, Mary, and it was some, it was surveillance footage of a parking lot with that. So we got, that's what we got. We got the last one. An unused area of the soundstage with some five gallon buckets and some big cheetos. It was like humiliating. There must have been a reason they stopped it, but for me as a fan of the show, money, money, money, money. It was so awesome to watch it. The watch is so good. It was just like a key key. Season six, untucked was so popular. Season six, it's phenomenal. I mean, they literally cannibalized it for their next 10 seasons. All those moments because they had a door. Obviously it's a great season, but it was good untucked season because these bitches were at each other's throne. Yes. I see comments every now and then like, you know, a Reddit thread comes up and you start reading and there's always, they always say lovely things about me on Reddit, which I appreciate. Sound like Donald Trump then. They always say lovely things about, um, and I am great. Whenever I read it, this ambivalent, I read a comment that I agree with and I feel so vindicated where they're like, you know what, I just rewatched season six of drag race and caught me active. So beautiful and perfect until episode, the rap challenge. And then all of a sudden she doesn't really appear in much of the rest of the season. And even when I won the interview challenge, like they were like, somehow they edited that out as well. And the only other thing that really happened was like her and Jocelyn. The row. And I was like, I felt that too. And I just love like reading. Oh, in my memoir, my favorite, I was thinking about this yesterday. I wrote, uh, the drag race section, the chapter opens with the winner of RuPaul's drag race season six is Courtney act. And then it was like, stop, reset back to one kind of thing. Cause you film all three or an, oh yes, you film the fake ending. You know about the gag though that they filmed Bianca and Adore doing a tie. And I was just like, they didn't film a Courtney ending at all. They filmed a Courtney ending, but they filmed everybody and everybody winning. And then they filmed Adore and Bianca tie. That is, it was just very like, I have thoughts about that because that is humiliating. It was so humiliating. That is, that is evil for all stars. That's mean, the mean gaze mean gaze. For all stars three, we filmed a tie for me and Kennedy, but I also didn't think that they would do it. Yeah, but that makes sense. It's a top two. But then in the next all stars, Trinity and Monet tie. And we never filmed the tie. I was there. We never filmed the tie. They Frankenstein it together. Yes. We never filmed the tie and then there was a tie. I was there watching it live with them and they were gagged. Yes. But I remember thinking like crazy. Why don't you film a tie if it was at all possible? Well, that just goes to show you this is, this is, this is, this is the, this is. Are the people like, how come they didn't film a tie of you? Did I miss it? It's I honestly, it's like a scene in a movie where like somebody unplugged, like something really dramatic happens and somebody unplugged the sound court and the movie goes silent, but you still see the action happen. Or like when the lights go out and the check gets changed and the last minute. Was it hard? Did you want to cry? I, I actually, I would describe, I went through like some sort of psychological something in the hotel room afterwards. I was checking lamps for microphones. Like I got like paranoid. Oh wow. That's girl. That's like pooky behavior. My hotel room. She goes to room. She goes, well, they want to film my crowning in here. That's why they didn't do it. Well, I had Simon. Let's get the lights in here, please. Um, should I speak, should I just act natural? I'll just act natural. Should I get him bed as RuPaul coming here? She's already in the bed. Okay. Should I fuck her? She goes back to RuPaul's in the bed with a towel on her head being like, congratulations. Peek-a-boo. I had Simon Sherrywood with me. We didn't have any way to get like- Was this when you were in the, the, the, the gold, the, I don't know. I was like in a pink, not perspex, but like opalescent. Yeah. Yeah. But I first saw all this like, uh- Oh, was it to the premiere you were the gold? Who did you think was going to win? Bianca. I definitely knew that I was not going to win. I definitely knew it was Bianca or Adore. Yeah. But I mean, when season six cut filming, we all thought- Adore. Darian was going to win because we were still a top four. Oh, interesting. Yeah, that's right. Oh, that's diabolical the way they do that. I hate that. Yeah. And we all thought that each other could have won. And I've checked with Bianca and Adore and I'm like, tell me straight, like am I, am I deluded? And Bianca was like, no, I, absolutely loved you while we were filming. I didn't hate you until I watched it back on television. I mean, I thought like, I thought Jinger was going to win. When we left season seven. We all thought Jinger would win. So, so how it would- It's funny because like I went through, when I wrote my memoir, I wrote like so much. And then I didn't put a lot of it in the book because I realized I was just venting. You're saving it for this pod. I'm saving it for this pod. Yeah. Thank you very much. I realized I was just venting and it was sort of like stuff I needed to process. And then I did one final, when I was recording the audio book, I was still able to make edits. Uh-huh. And I was reading- Are you serious? Yeah. It's serious. And I was reading the, the Drag Race section. I was like, do you know what? I just put that bit in there because I wanted to like, like revenge or like- Never a good thing to do. Kick them. And I was like, I'm going to take all those bits out. I did still say a lot in the memoir that I think maybe, if I wasn't ever going to be on All Stars again, probably definitely won't be after the memoir. Right. But I thought that it was all like, interesting. It's dishy. It's, I mean, it's very dishy. I mean, I'm, it's such a, I don't know. I just feel like if you, if you really didn't think you were going to win, it's not that you wanted them to do a crowning because it sounds like you didn't think it would win, but you think the principle of them not doing one when everyone is like, like they can't run the tape for five minutes and just do it. It's, it's, it's inconsiderate. To me, it's mean. It is, but also like I get it, it's tea. Whatever. But like I knew like, we don't need, she lost, right? Yeah. We don't need to tie with this ugly, but this ugly blonde bitch. We have a movie. Hates, right? And she's kind of older. Okay. Yeah. The one that was. Bianca. Oh yeah. Ordoa was what, 21? Yeah. She was so young. Violet was 21. She won everything off Amazon. Everything she was wearing, she was born off Amazon. Girl, when she showed up, I was ashamed because when she showed up on All Stars, I, I, she had all this stuff. I think it was from that Australian, where's that Australian company that, um, sequined showstoppers? No. House of Priscilla? No, it's, it's like. Crocs and frocks? Chick, no, I forget. It's like a. Lee Cronin? Inside joke. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. It's such a, such a, such a. House of ugly or something like that or. House of Priscilla. No, it's not drag stuff. It's like fashion. She said house of ugly and you said house of, you heard that house of Priscilla? Do you know what I'm talking about? Discount universe. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Beautiful, cool shit. Yeah. Where's the door get her clothes? Discount universe. No, it sounds like. It's a really cool designer brand. It sounds like that cheap, that fashion brand lately or whatever that. Fashion brand company. Yeah. It's like ironic. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. If you're cool. I saw it like I peeked at her wardrobe. I was like, oh my God, you are going to look so cunt this season. You know, and then she. We know how that happened. Yeah. She left, which I think was really wonderful of her. Dude, I love quitting. You know, I think the golden rule in reality TV is that nothing's more interesting than what really happens. Yeah. When people, when Ben left, we were just like, wow. Thank God. But like, I don't know, we're getting ready to watch All Stars to like this summer. Because. Have you been on All Stars? I've been on the second one. I mean, this was with the door. That was where it always was. It was like 10 or 11 years ago. I was trying to think this yesterday. It was 33 or four. Years ago. It was 10 years ago this year. Fuck. And didn't it come out in the summer? 25. It's 2026 now. It was 2016. Yeah. So we're getting ready to watch that. And I'm excited to see it. How did you find watching it back? How did you find watching back your season? Seven. It was like, you're so young. I was like, it's like watching it happen to somebody else. Yeah. Yeah. Also, and it's like, I don't particularly enjoy watching myself be mid. So like that's like, I can, like the big flops. I'm like, oh God, that's so cringy. Or the winds is like, great. But I was, I had a lot of mid moments and that's just not fun. I find watching Drag Race Back, this is an original thought I'm just having. So I don't know if it'll make sense. But like, you know, when you go to therapy and you talk about childhood trauma, right? And you, now. Courtney is my therapist. Right. No, really. When you, you, something that happened to you in your past, at the time, you sort of put it in a box, not able to understand or deal with it. So it's sort of like save just trauma. It's rattling around in your head until you come back as an adult with the therapist in a safe environment to unpack it, understand it from adult eyes and reframe it and help sort of dissolve the trauma. Or stick it on for Becca Ferguson. Watching Drag Race Back 10 years later is like childhood regression therapy, because now you're an adult, you see that it didn't end. You see that your career went on. You see that people love you and you watch it back and you're like, oh, this is all just a part of me and the trauma from the experience is gone. It's a bullet point on the fucking resume you have to conquer every single English speaking country in the goddamn world. I just, I, when I watched it, I just remember being so young and so scared. And when you realize watching it from so far back now, it's like, it's a fun TV show. Why didn't I have more fun? Why did I like kind of ruin it for myself by caring too much in the wrong ways? If I could wish on my 24 year old self, it'd be like, why don't you have a little fucking fun hoe? Girl, it's not that serious. Oh my God. But I felt like it was so serious. It felt like, it felt like life or death. Well, because at that point, that was the biggest thing we'd ever done. And we didn't know what was going on afterwards. For like drag. Because there was no all stars as yet. No. I mean, you also both did great on your seasons. So it's not like you had regrets in your competing. No, I'm talking, I must have went home season two though. And that was like, I mean, episode two, and that to me was like a fade worse than death. Yes. And it was like, it was like going home first. Yes, it is. And it's like, well, I'll apologize to all your buddy who went home second. But like, we don't know who they are. Don't you think they'd agree? Probably. Yeah, probably. Yeah. But it felt like you were going on to war and you died. Yes. Like because when it comes out, it's just like, you don't know what you don't know. You don't know that your life is going to go on. Because let's be fair for a lot of people who have been on the show, that was kind of the end. Yeah. Or like they're doing some gigs, but like some haven't. But like the three of us have been fortunate to like take it and make something else and grow and have great careers that we love. Yeah. But because we all have really tight pussies. We didn't know that then. Yeah. Less tight this morning. Did you get fucked this morning? Did I'm not going to fart the same again ever. Don't when you. And you know, she's got them weird vegan farts too. Do Mary, this person has lived with me. You don't understand the pull my finger. You don't understand my finger. Mary, you don't understand behind the scenes. This perfect looking woman is a rotted skunk. But they don't smell. They don't. That's why I hang out with Manity. I want a lady, a woman of cooth and decor. Yeah. She has none of it, but she will waltz down the stairs in her tiny little shorts with her perfect tan thighs and she'll be like in the kitchen glowing. It's six in the morning. I come down looking like, yeah. She's like, pull my finger and it goes, sorry for the listeners. It's tighter than that. And then like a fresh spring rain. Like a lemon verbina candle. I also Citronella. Citronella. No, nice Citronella. No mosquitoes left in the room. Lavender. It's peach ballini. Peach ballini. Meanwhile, I'm just like, I go high. My breath becomes a green vapor. I also have an enchanted butthole where I don't have to do. Not ever. But I know what's going on. But you have, you're very in tune and in touch with the GI tract. Yes. I am. I am. My microbiome is one of my most important assets. It's impressive. That's good. The gut microbiome. The gut microbiome. One time I came to Courtney's house and we made, I don't remember this, we cooked like a vegan green chef meal together. She was like, come over and we just eat that. And it was great. No, I just had a flashback to P-town 2014 before you did drag race. After. After, but maybe it hadn't aired or it was airing. Was it the year we both worked in P-town? Yeah. There's that great photo of me laying on the ground in the Australia Aboriginal flag dress and you're just like pointing and laughing and I think like flicking flyers. I'm throwing flyers at her on the ground. Maybe there's like a parade, there's like a car or something. There's a jeep behind me of the gay guys pointing and laughing too. It's just kind of fun to make Courtney feel bad. It is. I mean, for the first time being bullied, it was as a joke. It's like, just kidding. We love you. Get up. Would you like some cash? So you were mugged and then you're just trying to... We recount all the trauma. So yeah, you kicked in the face and then we got a wrap. But what would you say to... Do they ask you that diabolical question? What would you say to little Shane? Did they do that on your season? I don't remember. Yeah, they did and I find... I've... What would you say to little Shane? No, what would you say to... Why are you so little? What would you say to dying Shane? Oh. Well, little Shane, I have done this in therapy, right? And I've heard about them talk about... You're in a child and tell them, whatever. And I actually had this really cathartic moment in therapy where my core trauma is why don't you like me? And it's in high school, I'm like 15 and in my mind, I'm standing like all of the boys would sit there at A-block and I'm standing there looking at all of the boys and I'm asking in my mind, why don't you like me? And that was always the thing. Because mom and dad, very loving, very supportive, like grew up with a very healthy sense of self-worth. But it was always like, why don't you like me? And then also the unrequited love thing is a gay kid and having crushes on the boys. Well, you weren't sucking their cocks. I know, but I wanted to. There's something very shitty about having to go through some of those formative like high school experiences, devoid of actual real romance. Yeah. Going to like prom. If you were going with someone you have a crush on, butterflies for, that probably is so the main part of it. Imagine? Imagine talking about being shit. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I also had crushes on girls though, like legitimately. And I would like write them, I was like pathetic. I'd like write them love letters and buy them flowers and they would just be like... Oh, damn. Okay, faggot. Yeah, okay, faggot. And I think that's why I'm gay. Yeah. Those bitches turned you gay and those muggers made you... I'm an incel. But instead of just not having sex with women, I pivoted and had sex with men instead. Cat boys. What's a cat boy? Girl, the incels, they be having sex with them cat boys. All right, we'll see you next time. Listen, I'm not here to educate you. Okay. Cat boys. I'm a white bald man in my culture. It's not a joke. Wait, next up on a interview, a cat boy. Yeah. I hate to be problematic, but I try to make people sell things when they're on here. Is there anything people can buy from you? Of course there is. You know what I want people to buy from me? Gigs this summer in the United States, because I am here in your country. You sure are. And I feel like people don't think of Courtney Actors being here and doing like bar gigs, but I did some bar gigs last summer and I actually love them so much because I don't have to do them all the time. They are, I've been doing them too. Wiggle gigs are a turn. Do you lip sync or no? No. I actually think I want to try lip syncing. You should. I was going to say, if you have a lip sync in a while, it's fine. I've had a lip sync since 2000. You're going to get your life too. You know a lot of songs. Don't lip sync your own music. Don't give them the Olivia. Give them the Kylie. Give them the Kylie. You give them Kylie. Give them kind of do. Because I look at queens who lip sync. Like as a singer, you have to like not have fun. You can't go to the bar. You can't be loud. You've got to like protect your gifts. Sure. Sure. Sure. And so I've actually have learned though that like wearing earplugs everywhere. I travel with earplugs everywhere I go, like these tiny little ones. Nobody knows I'm wearing them. And then I don't lose my voice because it's called the Lombard effect where when you can't hear your voice, you project over the music and you just yell and you lose your voice. But when you wear the earplugs, you can hear your voice. Do you lip sync when you lip sync? Like so when you're in the car, lip syncing on the van back to Drag Race, because you know you're lip syncing that night. The girls told me that my voice, like I don't lip sync. I like she sings in a high voice. She sings like like I actually. I don't do the voice. I do one chance fancy. I can't do it unless I'm listening to music. But it's like. Isn't that crazy? I was doing this gig recently. If you go to one of her gigs and she's lip syncing, if you get close enough, she's doing that. I think more than this. But you know what happens when you're when you're lip syncing into a mic and they leave the mic live. That happened to Coco Jumbo and Vibe. I was doing this gig in Sydney and I had In-Am on it as in because I was like hosting this film festival. And they were on like the like throwing to these girls on the stage and they had microphones and they were lip syncing to like, I will survive, but they didn't know that Mike's alive. And they're like, What's up? You girl. That's me. But they, oh God, that's so fierce. That's your shows. The audience could pay extra for like a silent disco where they could wear headphones if you're live. I'll hear the isolated audio. Oh, all they would get is like sweat droplets and huffing. What is a pussy boy? A cat boy. Cat boy. Cat boy. We're not going to get to this thing. Okay. Yeah. So book me in a game. Go see her live. Like play Louisville. What are the best drag gigs? It is. It is kind of shout out to the play Louisville and Nashville. In Nashville, Louisville, Nashville, they would turn up, they would turn out and they would, they would stuff your fucking pussy filled with dollars. I have done bebops in Alabama like six times. Mobile. I've been to Mobile. Panama City Beach. More times than any other city. I've done Mobile. That is a fun place. But they still smoke inside. Yeah. It's like a small, it's like a, it's a big square. The room, right? I remember it. There's a downstairs as it upstairs with Miss C. The, she's like the diva that's been there for. We wrote splash bar in Panama City Beach with the, with the glamour shed. I've never been there. The chicken shack. Thank God. That's where Miss Dayma had the hair clip. All she loops. Thank tentacles. Tentacles. Now you're just fucking with us. I know tentacles. Haven't you heard of tentacles? You have done the tentacles. The whole 70 feet in Cali. You have done the tentacles. I have not done tentacles either. You are making this up. Tentacles. She's a liar. Yeah. Goodbye. Have you ever been younger than detox? Talk about tentacles. No. I'm doing it in July. Alaska is doing it in August. Well, stay tuned. We'll be back with Courtney Actif. She does her tentacles. Yeah. Thank you. Give it up for Courtney. Thank you. I'll let you. Yeah. Yeah. See your tentacles. See that. Get your wristband for the meet and greet at tentacles.