EXPLOSIVE! TPUSA Accuses Joe Kent Of Leaking To Harm Erika! | Candace Ep 314
57 min
•Mar 23, 20262 months agoSummary
Host Candace Owens discusses allegations that former counterterrorism director Joe Kent leaked information to her about Charlie Kirk, analyzing text message chains and flight records from the day of Kirk's assassination to challenge official narratives about what happened and who was present.
Insights
- Organizations under scrutiny often attack truth-tellers rather than address substantive claims, revealing defensive posturing over genuine investigation
- Timeline analysis of communication gaps and technical unavailability can reveal inconsistencies in official accounts of critical events
- Coordinated messaging and narrative control by leadership teams may indicate attempts to obscure rather than clarify controversial circumstances
- Absence of expected emotional responses or transparency from leadership can signal potential dishonesty or involvement in cover-ups
Trends
Increased scrutiny of private communications and flight records in high-profile incident investigationsPattern of organizations attacking messengers rather than addressing substantive allegationsGrowing public skepticism toward official narratives when leadership exhibits defensive rather than cooperative behaviorUse of satellite phone and communication gap analysis as investigative methodologyCoordinated social media campaigns to discredit whistleblowers and truth-tellersForeign surveillance indicators (Egyptian planes) as data points in domestic incident analysisGenerational shift in organizational loyalty and employee treatment as reputational liability
Topics
Charlie Kirk assassination investigation and official narrative challengesJoe Kent counterterrorism investigation obstruction allegationsText message chain authenticity and timeline reconstructionFlight records analysis and passenger manifest discrepanciesSatellite communication and intelligence agency involvement indicatorsOrganizational leadership transparency and accountabilityForeign involvement in domestic security incidentsMedia narrative control and coordinated messagingEmployee treatment and organizational culture at Turning Point USAIsrael-US foreign policy influence on domestic politicsWhistleblower retaliation and attack patternsCIA documentary involvement and government connectionsPrivate plane transponder data analysisCommunication infrastructure and classified information handling
Companies
Turning Point USA
Organization at center of investigation; leadership accused of obstructing truth about Charlie Kirk's final days and ...
Fox News
Tucker Carlson platform where Joe Kent revealed FBI obstruction of counterterrorism investigation into Charlie Kirk a...
CNN
Media outlet seeking interviews about Charlie Kirk assassination; declined by Turning Point leadership on day of inci...
Duncan Aviation
Aircraft maintenance facility where Y-Refy plane landed; unusual choice for civilian aviation operations
National Counterterrorism Center
Federal agency where Joe Kent worked; allegedly stopped investigation into potential foreign involvement in Kirk assa...
FBI
Federal agency accused by Joe Kent of halting counterterrorism investigation into Charlie Kirk incident
Department of Defense
Referenced as having satellite infrastructure and involvement in incident investigation and communications
People
Joe Kent
Former counterterrorism director who resigned and alleged FBI obstruction of investigation into Charlie Kirk assassin...
Charlie Kirk
Assassinated political figure; subject of investigation regarding final communications and foreign policy positions
Erica Kirk
Charlie Kirk's wife; now leads organization; accused of inconsistent statements about events surrounding assassination
Andrew Colvette
Long-time spokesperson who provided text messages to Joe Kent; gave conflicting accounts of plane travel and communic...
Justin Strife
Promoted to COO seven days before Kirk assassination; coordinated plane bookings and communications response
Marina Minas
Called junior employee to draft death announcement; later fired employee over Uber driver conversation
Aubrey
26-year-old tasked with drafting critical death announcement; later fired for conversation with Uber driver
Kash Patel
Alleged to have blocked Joe Kent's investigation; subject of conflict with Andrew Colvette per Daily Mail reporting
Josh Hammer
Pro-Israel advocate accused of lying about Charlie Kirk's positions on Israel in final days
Tucker Carlson
Interviewed Joe Kent about investigation obstruction; publicly stated friendship with Erica Kirk
Megyn Kelly
Publicly stated friendship with Erica Kirk; discussed Charlie Kirk's changing views on Israel
Laura Loomer
Attacked Jack Posobiec for defending Joe Kent's military credentials
Jack Posobiec
Posted Joe Kent's military qualifications; faced backlash from Turning Point leadership
Blake Neff
Present at assassination scene; made unusual reference to having multiple phones during incident
Rabbi Pesach Wolicki
Claimed personal advisor to Charlie Kirk; had unexplained phone call with Andrew Colvette and Justin Strife during in...
Joe Rogan
Discussed inconsistencies in Erica Kirk's public presentation and CIA documentary involvement on his show
Mark Levin
Criticized Joe Rogan's discussion of Erica Kirk as AI production or disgrace
Brett Weinstein
Released private messages about Iran policy discussions with Charlie Kirk
Candace Owens
Episode host; received text messages from Andrew Colvette; conducted investigation into Kirk assassination circumstances
Quotes
"Joe stop us from getting into a war with Iran. Very loudly. He was single-minded. He walked off and he went, I believe into the oval."
Joe Kent, recounting Charlie Kirk's final words to him in June•Early in episode
"We were stopped from continuing to investigate. And the FBI will say that they stopped that because they wanted to have, turn everything over to the Utah State authorities."
Joe Kent•Tucker Carlson interview segment
"Your punishment is more truth, Mr. Blake Neff and Andrew Colvette."
Candace Owens•Mid-episode
"They don't know how to just be normal and not lie. Just tell the truth and don't get upset if you believe somebody else is telling the truth."
Candace Owens•Closing segment
"I put that phone away is a very interesting way of putting it. No one calls their phone that phone. Right. I put that phone away implies you have two phones."
Candace Owens, analyzing Blake Neff's language•Mid-episode analysis
Full Transcript
Alright you guys, happy Monday. It is heating up. It's heating up ladies and gentlemen because after Joe Kent resigned as the Director of Counterterrorism, there was this instant stream of Israel firsters who accused him of leaking to me. Alright, Joe Kent immediately came under attack and curiously, Andrew Colvette retweeted someone who suggested that Joe Kent should be arrested for leaking classified documents. Whoa. What is Andrew Colvette upset with Joe Kent? Is he upset with Joe Kent? It would certainly appear that Turning Point wants to exact revenge because you guessed it, Joe Kent told the truth about something and that something made Erica Kirk, Charlie's wife look very foolish and on that note you guys, I have got some unbelievably explosive news about that now infamous tarmac hug. The one that's been living inside of me since Charlie's death. Let's jump right into it. Welcome back to Candice. I see the chat saying no battle bun today. That is correct, no battle bun today, but I promise you we are going to do battle. Okay. We can jump right into Joe Kent. Joe Kent after resigning went onto Tucker Carlson and he communicated some rather explosive bits of news to share regarding Charlie Kirk's investigation. He basically says the FBI stopped him from investigating. I'll let you listen to his words from his own mouth. Take a listen. The last time I saw Charlie Kirk on this earth was in June in the West Wing in the stairway and I said hi to him and he looked me in the eye and he said very loudly and it's a small, you've been in the West Wing, it's small, it's a tight space and he said Joe stop us from getting into a war with Iran. Very loudly. He was single-minded. He walked off and he went, I believe into the oval. One of President Trump's closest advisors who is vocally advocating for us to not go to war with Iran and for us to rethink at least our relationship with the Israelis. And then he's suddenly publicly assassinated and we're not allowed to ask any questions about that. It's a data point. It's a data point that we need to look into. What do you mean when you say we're not allowed to ask any questions about that? We've been told that this individual, Robinson is a lone gunman and maybe he is, but the investigation that I was a part of, the National Conoranterrorism Center was a part of, we were stopped from continuing to investigate. And the FBI will say that they stopped that because they wanted to have, turn everything over to the Utah State authorities, everything's going to trial, it's very, very sensitive, but there was still a lot for us to look into that I can't really get into, but there was still linkage for us to investigate that we needed to run down. And I'm not making any conclusions. I'm not saying because, you know, because of this, this happened. I'm not saying that at all. I'm just saying there's unanswered questions. We know the pressure because of the text messages that have been made public that Charlie was under a lot of pressure from a lot of pro-Israel donors. And again, we know Charlie was advocating to President Trump against this war with Iran. And we knew at the end of the 12 day war, at the end of midnight hammer that the Israelis were going to come back and ask us to go back to war again. Right. So we have a lot of data points between Butler, the assassination attempts against President Trump, the breaches of his security, what happened to Charlie Kirk. Now of course, this instantly began trending. It's shocking you have somebody who is the director, former director of national counter terrorism telling you that he was, somebody stopped him. You stopped from investigating whether or not there could have been any foreign leads or foreign involvement. I don't know for sure, but I do know that we had things that we would have investigated had not been for Kashpatel. Now we had already knew, had known rather that something was brewing between him and Kashpatel, right? That made it into the Daily Mail. At some point we had covered it. You would think, you would think that him sitting down at Tucker and revealing this would shock the senses of Charlie Point USA, that it would shock the senses of his wife. They would go, what? Get Kash on the phone immediately. I need to speak to Kash, but I would need to know why he was stopped. Why Joe Kent was stopped from investigating. I demand to know why this happened. And then they should further demand that investigation to take place, right? Was there foreign involvement? But that's of course not what is going to happen following his appearance. That's never how it works. To turn a point, you would say they always forget how to just pretend that they aren't guilty. You know what I mean? They just don't know how to act surprised or dismayed or a concerned that there couldn't be foreign involvement. They always do the opposite thing that the rest of the world is doing, right? And this time they're angry at Joe Kent. The Israel First crowd, like I said, immediately began demanding that he spend time in prison for leaking what they claimed are classified documents. Alex Clark, best known for posing in high boots on top of Charlie's vigil site just a mere days after he was assassinated, she had this to say on X. She said, Joe Kent is clearly no friend to Charlie as he has actively participated and or egged on behind the scenes in the degradation of his wife. How anyone could defend him in any way after that disgusts me. Fake friends. Obviously, what's missing from that is any proof, right? I have never heard from any person that Joe Kent egged on anyone going after Erica Kirk. In fact, in terms of public commentators who have gone after Erica Kirk, I actually, they normally loop me in with Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly. I stand alone in that group. Tucker Carlson has said he is a friend of Erica Kirk. Megyn Kelly has said she's a friend of Erica Kirk. Joe Kent, I have never heard utter a bad word about Erica Kirk. So, is turning point going to supply any receipts for the fact that he egged on something that was harmful to Erica Kirk? Jack Pasobic, who works with Turning Point USA in a lot of different ways, but also is military and has served the country and therefore, like most military men, respect Joe Kent's accomplishment. He came under fire for merely listing, absent any commentary, Joe Kent's qualifications and his background having served this country. This is what Jack Pasobic wrote, and I'm going to show you how Laura Luma responded. He wrote, Joe Kent has six bronze star medals with five oak leaf clusters across 11 combat deployments as a green beret in some of the biggest battles of the GWOT. And this, they were infuriated. You should see the comments under this. They couldn't stand this. Don't you cannot say anything good about Joe Kent? Laura jumps in and says, why are you defending a known leaker who is undermining President Trump? And now speculations that Joe Kent may have been leaking information to Candace Owens for the purpose of attacking Mrs. Erica Kirk. What are you doing? Okay, I can tell you right now that that is completely untrue. Joe Kent did not leak me anything for the purpose of attacking Erica Kirk. But here is what's even more interesting. They don't realize that they're implying that Erica Kirk is guilty of something. Let's actually imagine what they're saying is true. Joe Kent, let's say Joe Kent is the one that leaked me crucial information regarding Charlie Kirk. And the investigation. Well, how could that hurt Erica Kirk? That should hurt the feds if they're lying. It could only hurt someone who is lying to the public about what actually occurred on that day. The implication is that him leaking something harmed Erica Kirk. They're not saying he is a liar. They're saying he is a leaker. I find that to be interesting and they never think through their attacks. So we got to figure out what it is, what is they're talking about? Why are they so upset about what Joe Kent said? How could this harm Erica? Well, we finally were able to determine what it is that they're talking about because Andrew Colvette addressed the claims directly today on Charlie Kirk's radio show. Take a listen. The central claim though that I want to get to is was Joe Kent leaking certain information? And over the weekend, a clip came up and it's gone a little bit viral. I want to address it. Let's go ahead and play it. Cut 16. The way that those screenshots got to Candice is via Joe Kent. Andrew Colvette. Andrew was in the chat group as well. He was one of the nine people in the group and he admitted at first, be perfectly honest, at first he was denying it. We didn't know how Candice got them. But then he admitted on the air on his show that he had given these text messages and he gave them to, he said that on the show that he gave them to someone in the government. He told us that, that he gave them to someone in the government. Joe Kent was someone that we, we knew that there was a relationship there between Charlie and Andrew and Joe. We knew that when Charlie would visit Washington DC, he would talk to Joe. He kind of verified that the messages had been given by Andrew to Joe Kent and that Joe Kent had been the one to pass them on to Candice. All right. So verified's doing a lot of heavy lifting there. I do want to confirm what I can confirm. And that is that yes, in the immediate aftermath, I did provide the group chat to Joe Kent. We don't throw around accusations recklessly here. We don't. There's a lot of people that do that online. We don't do that. We think that's keeping in the spirit of Charlie spirit and the way we choose to do things is we try and be responsible. So yes, in a spirit of looking at every lead, turning over every stone, we wanted everybody that needed to know, to know anything that we knew, not just, I mean, and by the way, we've been accused of not being interested in the truth. And just to remind people what this is referring to, this is after Charlie's murder, there were text messages that from a private group chat that were made public and were used to, frankly, kick off the big conspiracy theory that we've run into over and over again, which is that Israel or the Jews had Charlie murdered. Yes. So which we do not believe, which we do not believe, but we have been accused of trying to or we're not interested in the truth. The actual fact of the matter is that behind the scenes, we have given everything we know to give every single piece of information. This was one of them. I was told I could trust Joe Kent. I provided the screen grabs to Joe Kent and the, I don't know what happened to them at that point. Okay. That I just want to make that very clear. Eventually Joe did message me and suggest that I make those screen grabs public. I declined because those were shared privately. I didn't want to be reckless with them in the public. There could be innocent people on that group chat that would then be harmed. So I declined, but then fast forward another week or two and they were made public. So that's what I know is that Joe suggested that they be made public. I declined. Then they were made public. Can I 100% categorically say that he leaked them? No, but those are the facts. Maybe somebody on his team. Maybe they got passed around. Maybe somebody else leaked them, but that's, that those are the facts of the matter. And that's what I know. This episode is brought to you by simply safe and this simply safe on is the sound of peace of mind. Simply safe sensors, HD cameras and 24 seven security monitoring, protect your home inside and out against breakings, fires, water leaks and more. So you can relax, visit simply safe.co.uk slash pod for an exclusive discount. Yeah, the part that Andrew's just forgetting to add there is that he himself told me about the text chain. Andrew was telling multiple people about the tech techs chain and I'm so glad that he is telling the truth that this was going around. And this is their, this is their bone to pick with Joe Kent. This is what put a B in their bonnets. This is what has upset turning point USA. As a refresher, turning point chose to stay entirely mum on the topic of Charlie's support for Israel and set allowed a force of Zionists who were harassing him in his last days. Zionists like Josh Hammer to lie about what Charlie was going through. Right. So I came out and told the truth. Meg and Kelly came out and told the truth. Tucker Mount called the truth. He was having changing opinions on Israel. Now we're way far down. We know how true that is. Brett Weinstein has released his messages about Iran. You hear Joe Kent telling you the last time he saw him in the White House, he said that everybody knew this and turning point did not confirm it and allowed Zionists to lie about that. Then I released the concrete proof in the form of the text chain, which then forced them to confess that there was a communication that took place less than 24 hours before Charlie was shot and killed. And more crucially, it was a communication that took place shortly before Charlie began texting his security and Andrew Colvette, which he also told me about, that he thought they were going to kill him. Okay. Something that Erica initially denied to the public. So what we have here is that turning point is angry because this made both them and the new CEO and chairman who also happens to be Charlie Kirk's wife look bad. Right. Liars hate when they get caught but narcissistic liars rather than repenting when they get caught get angry and they seek revenge on the people who exposed their lies. They never feel any shame. Okay. They don't possess any shame. The rabbi is not ashamed that he lied and said, Charlie never blinked on his real life. He's not ashamed that he lied. He's angry he got caught. Josh Hammer was angry he got caught. I'm exploring legal options. I should be allowed to lie to the public and make it look like Candice is crazy. Right. They view themselves as the victims when they get caught being dishonest. Now you should remember liars. They are nocturnal creatures. They hate the light. Me, I love it. Daylight is the best as an effectant and I have some more interesting information. Yeah. Your punishment is more truth. Mr. Blake Neff and Andrew Colvette. For most, I'll just state this. This could be nothing but I do want to say this. On September 5th, while Charlie was away in Asia, that rabbi Wollickie and rabbi Pesach Wollickie who was the one who shot him out. He had a call with Justin Stryfe and Andrew Colvette. I find that to be interesting because rabbi Wollickie does not have any role within Turning Point USA. He claims to be one of Charlie's personal advisors. I don't know why he would have a phone call with Andrew and Justin Stryfe. Why do two Catholics need to speak to a rabbi while Charlie's away in Asia? There could be a reasonable explanation. I would just like to hear it. It's another interesting data point for me. But there's something bigger. Actually something that is explosive. And it may even involve those pesky little Egyptian planes that were following Turning Point faith events for years. And this most definitely will require a response from Turning Point USA. So let me at first jog your memory about the infamous tarmac hug that lives inside of us all. I had told you all that I spoke to Andrew Colvette on September 10th and the days, the immediate days thereafter. And he specifically told me something that became problematic down the line. It wasn't problematic. When he told me, it became problematic down the line. He told me that he was on a massive plane all by himself. I was under the impression it was a G5 or a G6. And he was after Charlie got shot racing to Provo alone on this plane with no one to speak to with anxiety building inside of him. Finally, they land in Provo. The plane doors open and the first person he sees is Erica Kirk. Suddenly, all that built up anxiety releases when he meets her on the tarmac and boohoo cries in her arms. The exact word he used was collapsed. He collapsed into Erica's arms. And he told me this, painted a picture in my mind and thought about it like, wow, could you imagine being on a plane all by yourself, massive plane, you got this G5 to yourself and you got no one to talk to you. And then suddenly you see someone and you just, and it's the first time you really acknowledge that Charlie's, Charlie's dead. Right? On that conversation, I am 10,000% certain. Okay? I was also put immediately under the impression that it was Charlie's plane. So I was then surprised when Andrew's story down the line seemed to shift to me and it became that he was with his wife flying from Santa Barbara. Wife? No, that just can't be right. I said this instantly. I was locked in emotionally due to the adrenaline of everything that was going on in those days. Andrew told me his wife asked if he wanted her to then fly to Utah and he told her, of course. Okay? A conversation that I registered as his wife having flown separate and later from him. In fact, I was so convinced that I did not miss on this, that I heard Andrew and understood him correctly, that they had flown separately, that it was among the highest priority items for me. I had the opportunity to sit down with Erica Kirk and Justin Strife. I had very few questions and one of them was pertaining to the planes. I asked them who flew on each plane on that day and more specifically, I said, did Andrew fly with his wife? I did not tell them about the tarmac hug. I kept that card close because I was going to be able to determine whether or not they were lying to me about who flew on which planes if I just didn't tell them that I knew about this tarmac hug, right? Justin Strife told me that he booked the planes. He said, I booked the planes. I'm paraphrasing here. He was like, Andrew's wife was supposed to be on the plane, but I don't know if she got on it. Let me double check. He said, I'll get back to you and I'll double check. He jotted down as something to get back to me. He did eventually get back to me. He says, later, the next day or so, he texted me. He says, she was on the plane. His excuse was like, I'm not sure because even though I scheduled her, sometimes it was such a crazy day, things could have changed and maybe she found her own way there in the end. But of course, I looked at Erica, expecting her to pipe up and say, yes, she most definitely did fly with Andrew. Put that pencil down, Justin. I know, of course, that she flew with Andrew because we met on this tarmac and had this hug and cried. But no, Erica blanked me. She did the Erica thing, the eye. She stood there. Erica is the person who should have been able to answer that question instantly. It is not every day that you have a boohoo cry on a tarmac with a married man while his wife is standing behind him on the day of your husband's assassination. Is that fair? Am I being fair here? I feel like I'm being fair. It's fair to assume that Erica should have remembered that Andrew Colvett's wife was flying with him, but she didn't. Also the other reason why I felt they were lying was why would any person wait an hour for the PR guy to land before racing to the hospital to see their husband after he was shot? That doesn't make sense. Erica would have had to wait an hour on the tarmac for Andrew Colvett's plane. I instantly felt they were lying and now I believe that I have evidence that proves that I was correct and they were indeed lying. And it is highly likely that Andrew flew by himself on Charlie's plane, plausibly Charlie's plane because I now have a message chain from that day. Arguably the most significant text chain that took place on September 10th at that company. The text chain pertaining to public relations. How are you going to communicate to the public, to the world, to employees? What is happening with Charlie Kirk? How are you going to tell them? How are you going to explain to them that Charlie Kirk has passed away? So we go back to September 10th. Charlie Kirk has been shot. Instantly the most important person at that company becomes Justin Strife because he's been promoted to COO just seven days earlier. He gets promoted to COO. So he's the number two guy here. And of course, the most important person is also going to be our public relations, our longtime spokesperson, Andrew Colvett and their chief marketing officer, Marina Minas. Now if Andrew Colvett's story that he is now telling the public is true, he was at home with his wife in Santa Barbara when Charlie was shot and then he mysteriously waits for three hours until he flies private with his wife at 3.19 PM Utah time. I'm going to keep everything in Utah time today because it's just easier that way because you don't have to worry about the time changes. So three hours, almost exactly three hours, he departs Santa Barbara. I could get him a private plane faster than that. Going, what? That's not, nope. He told me he sprinted, whatever. That would mean that during that three hour timeframe in Santa Barbara, Andrew Colvett should have been available to freely communicate with the team, the press, until that flight departs at 3.19. That's his job. That's literally his job. That is not what these messages reveal. These messages that I'm about to show you, they are in Pacific time, so you're going to have to adjust them all forward one hour in your mind at this time. It's Arizona time and at this time, Arizona is on Pacific time. So I'm going to do that already when I discuss these messages one hour forward and don't worry. I'm then going to show you a nice clean calendar entry so that you can take a screenshot and understand how this went down with the details of the communications afterwards so that everything is crystal clear. At 1.02 Utah time, so 39 minutes after Charlie is shot, 12.23, Andrew Colvett messages the group and he says, he's telling them for communications, we can confirm publicly that he's been shot. Take a look at this. In this group, we have Justin Streif. We have Andrew Colvett. We have Marina Mines and we have Aubrey, who is later going to be fired over an Uber ride. That Marina over here, here is that text chain. So at 1.29 PM, again, I'm adjusting forward Utah time, he is then informed that CNN wants to have someone on the show. Everyone's reaching out to speak about it and he instantly says no. It's a minute later at 1.30 PM, he is asked, can Morgan do a news hit at 8 PM Eastern? And there's no response. Okay, so at 1.30 PM, there's no response from Andrew until almost exactly two hours later at 3.25 PM. Again, this is mountain time. 3.25 PM Utah time, he asks back, is she on Fox, like is Morgan on Fox? And then he replies to that initial question that was sent to him at 1.30 and he declares why he's been absent for two hours. So he's following up and he says at 3.26, sorry, on the plane, this just loaded. This just loaded. It's an important way, describing something. In other words, I am sorry that it has been two hours and I did not reply to you. I didn't get this message because this just loaded now. Okay? Maybe you're coming into land, whatever it is, now all your messages are starting to load. Messages as we know cannot load when you are on a plane if it's a plane that doesn't have Wi-Fi. He is saying that the messages just came in effectively. Do we agree? That's what that means. This just loaded. This time frame from 1.30 Utah time up until 3.25 Utah time matches within the time frame that Charlie's plane is traveling. Andrew shouldn't have even taken off, nothing. Okay? I'm showing you this is Charlie's plane and that plane is going to leave at 2.31 p.m. from Scottsdale and land into Provo at 3.31 p.m. And we're going to be told that Erica and Tyler and Elizabeth McCoy and Stacey Sheridan are on this plane. But this text chain makes it look like it's Andrew. Okay? Now, I can tell you more, giving even more credence to the claim that Andrew was unavailable because he was on a plane during that time is the fact that Marina Mines, the chief marketing officer, personally called Aubrey at 2.05 p.m. Utah time and asked her to draft the death statement, which was going to go out to the entire staff because here's what's crucial because Andrew's currently on a plane and I don't have it within me to draft this statement. Can you, Aubrey, draft this statement? Essentially, Aubrey, the what, 26-year-old is now responsible for the unbelievably emotionally heavy statement that has to be drafted in Andrew's stead because he's on a plane. Can we just take a moment to appreciate that Marina, this psycho, is going to then just a few months later be behind getting Aubrey fired because she had a conversation with an Uber driver. Like, I am sorry, if you ever make your employee go through the emotional trauma of having to draft statements to the press and draft statements to the entire company to announce that their CEO has died. On the day that they have died, you can't even process the emotion of learning this, that Charlie Kirk is dead. That employee should just be allowed to chill and do nothing for, I don't know, three years. Three years. It all came down to a 26-year-old and they're going to then make her work insane hours and then fire her through weekends and then fire her and her fiance because they had a conversation with an Uber driver and she wasn't loyal to Erica. Like, I'm sorry, that feels criminal to me. I know it's not literally criminal, but it feels criminal. Like it should be a crime. Like, that's me. I'm talking to a lawyer because that's crazy. Okay, and I never say that, but this is beyond insane. Now that I'm really processing what they put this person through emotionally, only to them fire them and not even give them a bonus after they took in that much money, like what? Where's a lawyer? Okay. Anyway, back into this. I just got angry and I set aside. Now I'm back. I'm back here. Anyway, this means obviously that Andrew had to have been on an earlier flight just as I had remembered. We now have hard evidence. We have the call logs. We have text messages that Andrew was unavailable from 1.30 p.m. to 3.25 p.m. and it's about to get stranger. It's going to get stranger. So at 2.27 p.m. mountain time, okay, remember this is all adjusted for Utah time, the email goes out to the employees confirming that Charlie Kirk has passed away, drafted from like a 26-year-old. And then Andrew is going to disappear again. Disappears again from the chat and this is where it's going to get especially interesting because he disappears during a most critical time again. This is his literal job. They have just sent employees an email that Charlie Kirk has passed away and that the office is going to be closed for the rest of the day. Of course, a corporate-wide email to that effect when the entire world is watching is going to leak. And what's going to then happen is they're going to get a sudden influx. The PR is going to get a ton of emails. Aubrey is going to get a crap ton of messages. So wanting a confirmation, is this a real email? Is it true? Is Charlie dead? Is the office closed? At 3.49 Utah time, she's going to ask her boss, he's been unavailable, should I confirm or deny? Let's see if we can pull those messages back up. Justice Schreiber is going to come back and say, confirm or deny what? And she's going to say that the office is closed, to which Justin's going to say yes. And if the email is authentic, Justin, who, sorry, she's going to then say to him yes, and if the email is authentic, they want to know. The press wants to know if this is a real email and whether or not the office is closed. And Justin, who remember, he told me that he booked the planes and he therefore should know if Andrew is unavailable. He then jumps into the chat and he says, it's your call, Andrew. It's your call. Obviously, it's true. That's at 3.52 PM. If you guys need to pull that, please pull that so we can throw it up later. And there is curiously again going to be no response from Andrew until 4.25 PM, Mountain, Utah time. And when he finally replies, he again is going to have another excuse. He's going to say, curiously, my internet just came back on. My internet just came back on. Okay. So we have a two hour window and then we have this hour window in which Andrew Colvette is unavailable to do the most important thing on the most important job. And in each instance, he doesn't have internet. What goes on in Santa Barbara? I don't even know Santa Barbara. They're strange. So now I'm going to place all of this on a calendar and Skyler, just shout me out when you have that second part in my year of the message. I'm going to place this on a calendar so that you guys can see all the moving pieces here. Okay. And I'm also going to add some Egyptian planes that were transponding here. I find they line up a little too precise. Remember, there was one Egyptian plane that was just transponding on a tarmac in Provo. Mysteriously, just turned on and I always felt like that was something that shouldn't be ignored. But, you know, they weren't concerned about it. At turning point, not Erica. They're cracking jokes. They're not interested at all in foreign involvement. Joe Kent, oh, what a terrible, indecent human being for being interested in knowing whether or not, wanting to find out whether or not there was foreign involvement. We hate this man. Right? Let's look at this. Let's look at this calendar. And you guys can screenshot this, that you have it. Okay. And it says that early morning that Egyptian plane is going to transpond from 10.05 a.m. to 11.34 a.m. This is all Utah, mountain standard time, guys. Okay. We have Charlie. Then we have these blocks in which Andrew Colbert is unavailable. Okay. Those blue blocks are Andrew Colbert being unavailable according to his own chain and when he responds and says the message is just loading, that's that second block in which we have the Egyptian plane transponding in purple and during that time is also Charlie's flight from Charlie's plane, pardon me, from Scottsdale to Provo. Okay. So you can just, again, screenshot this. You can see it next. Okay. Andrew's not available. Can you please drop us in? This is all happening at a time where he should be here. Andrew, according to his story, does not have anything to do until 3.19 p.m. So why are the communications coming from executives that Andrew is unavailable and he is on a plane when Andrew is not supposed to be on a plane? All times adjusted for Utah. I'm just going to keep saying that because inevitably there will be someone that says this is wrong. All times have been adjusted to reflect mountain standard time, Utah time, so that we could get it all on board. Okay. Now, there's something that I certainly would like to add here and this, to be clear, is now moving toward speculation. But the reality is, is that secure communications happen via satellite. Okay. That's how planes communicate. Planes are not using cell phone towers. They're above cell phone towers. They are communicating via satellite. And that is what you would have satellite phones if you're like in the military and running a ground operation. Satellite phones are what intelligence agencies use because they sit outside of landline infrastructure. They sit outside of cell phone towers. And this is a fact. The Department of Defense, which is all over the story for some reason, Lori is part of the Department of Defense. They actually have their own satellites entirely. They're not even having to connect to other satellites near. They have their own satellites, obviously, for the purpose of running operations. So were they to run any sort of ground operations, they'd likely hand those out to their guys. And this may be nothing, but while we're just speculating, Blake Neff sure did have an interesting way of describing his phone call with his mom after the shot rang out. Remember, he was defending Mikey McCoy and talks about how he ran. And after he ran, he called his mom. Listen to the words he uses at the end here. Take a listen. I remember he calls Erica. I around the same time, I pull out my phone and I call my mom just to say, mom, there's been a shooting. You're going to see it on the news. I'm okay. You know, pray for me. I've got to go. And I remember that call. And I around the time I put that phone away and then he immediately calls his dad. He calls Rob McCoy. I put that phone away is a very interesting way of putting it. No one calls their phone that phone. Right. I put that phone away implies you have two phones. That's what it implies. It applies you have two phones, right. You otherwise you just say, put my phone away. I put that phone away. He says it's so casually because you don't think about it. That's these little things that happen again. It's just a data point that I'd be interesting exploring. Did he have another phone? Maybe he did. Maybe he had another work phone. And so he literally meant I put that phone, my personal phone away and it was my work phone. But if I'm, if I'm running counterterrorism, I'm interested. They're not going to, they're not going to point me. I thought about it over the weekend. I was like, oh, maybe they'll like place me in there. Joe Kent's gone and resigned and I have not been called yet from the White House. Anyway, I'm going to show you guys by the way, that second part of the chat that we did not have for you so that you could see it where I was discussing Justin Strife jumping in saying confirmers and I what all these messages are coming in is the email authentic. Yes, you can see these times and it is at the end there at what would be 425 pm Utah time that Andrew jumps in and says, my internet just came back on. Justin Strife says, you may need to wait until AK is on the ground. My internet just came back on. Why is he gone all day? What's going on? What's going on? Where, where are you? Who are you communicating with? What's going on here? Okay. Another maybe purely speculative bit of information is the Y-Refy plane. I never liked their story here. I never liked this plane called the Y-Refy plane because that's who Erica told me was on the plane, right? Y-Refy was sponsoring the event. He's the guy that walks over and is all like whatever in the video and that they flew in. I always felt like I'm interested because why first off, why are you flying in a Duncan aviation? Duncan aviation is not where you fly into. Usually you fly into signature, you fly into Atlantic. Duncan aviation is particularly has a bent towards military and it is for fixing planes. So what are we doing at Duncan aviation full stop? I don't really know. Anyways, the Y-Refy plane had some interesting stops that day that I would like to bring up here. It just happens to go from Scottsdale in the morning to Provo, then from Provo to Santa Barbara at 1024, then from Santa Barbara it goes to Scottsdale. And if you actually put this up, you will start to realize that when this plane lands at the times that it lands, like when it arrives in Provo at 1006, it happens to land at a time where suddenly that plane, the Egyptian planes are going to be transponding. Same deal when it lands in Scottsdale at 144, it suddenly, it's like when these blue planes start to transpond, you're just going to see that Y-Refy plane now added here. And it's interesting, like right when they land, see it lands in Provo and then right away the Egyptian plane starts transponding. Then it lands in Scottsdale and right away that Egyptian plane starts transponding. Planes can communicate each other on a satellite if they know which satellite they're going to. Again, I'm in speculation zone, but I don't like the idea that this was just a drop-off, but it also then goes to Santa Barbara and it also then comes to Scottsdale. It's like all the places that are involved that day and yes, this plane is somehow associated to Turning Point USA, it gives me the ick. And people who lie and people who are abusive in their lies, like you get caught in your lie and then you're angry at people who revealed you, they tend to keep lying. It's a pattern. It's a personality trait, so to speak. So that's why we call this frequent liar miles. We don't know what's going on. We're going to stay on this this week though because we are getting close. And justice for that girl Aubrey, the anger that I felt when I really processed that she had to write all of this stuff, then work like seven-hour days, not sleep, only to then not get a raise and to be fired because Marina Minas spoke to an Uber driver. That can't fly in this world. There has to be justice. This guy be justice for Aubrey. I'm going to start selling justice for Aubrey, tease. Justice for Aubrey. Anyways, we went max. We'll see you guys right after a quick break. All right, you guys, we are only a few months into 2026 and AI is already changing how we work. So we're going to start with AI. We're going to start with AI. We're going to start with AI. We're going to start with AI. We're going to start with AI. We're going to start with AI. We're going to start with AI. 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And that includes the biggest podcaster in the world, Joe Rogan. They were so angry because he went on his show and just kind of said, water is wet. Take a listen. Yeah, that Elvis is real. We used to have a fun, kind of playful conspiracy. Two boxes alive. Yeah, yeah. And then now it's all out of whack. You know, it's McCrown's got a dick. Exactly. I've heard Erica Kirk's got a dick. I've heard that one. Whoa, she seems thrilled right now. She's an odd duck. She's a coke for sure. Have you ever seen the compilation of her making crazy eyes? No. Is a video of her making demon eyes? And every time she makes the eyes, the music, it's so ridiculous. She's possessed. Well, she just gets intense. She seems, she's having a good time. Well, she was on a reality show, you know. Yes. So she's a star. A little bit. Maybe. She was also in some weird CIA documents or CIA films. Is that right? Yeah. You don't see those films? No, no. See, we can find those films. There's some weird, like, internal films that they made that she was a part of. She looks like if a pageant lady, a pageant girl was grown up. 100%. Yeah, look at that. Yeah. Well, I mean, she essentially was a pageant lady. Oh, really? Right? Wasn't she in like Miss USA or one of those things? Oh, I don't know. Maybe. Wasn't she, Jamie? She got that kind of face. Well, there's a thing that people want, right? That attention, fame thing. Yeah. Yeah. That is what they really want. Okay. So Jamie will find it. It's really vulnerable that we've presented to congressional officials. One being cyber, two being hackers, three being physical threats. Fourth one is solar EMP and the fifth one is manmade EMP. So the concern that we have is that we put out this critical information and when we go over this risk analysis, they hear what we're saying, but they don't want to take action. Take action. Well, there are 18 critical infrastructures. It's weird, but very weird. She's doing a CIA informational video. Weird. Acting gig or is this something else? Perhaps or, you know, but even so you're doing an acting gig for the CIA. Who calls you for that? Yeah. You ever get one of those calls? No. No, I never go on those calls. And my agent never hit me with that one. Yeah. It's odd. Well, there's a lot of people that think that she was his handler. Oh. She was Charlie Kirk's. But of course, there's a lot of people think I have handlers. A new season calls for new discoveries like our iced Uber vanilla matcha latte, smooth, creamy and nutty balanced with notes of vanilla. It's a treat for the eyes too with vibrant lilac cues to brighten your spring mood. Hot or iced, there are so many ways to love this stunning serve. Uber vanilla pouring now at Starbucks. Subject to availability while stocks last. Again, he's just speaking common sense. And I love that he addressed particularly the CIA document because a documentary because they came out and they were suddenly trying to gas last and were, whoa, the CIA didn't produce the documentary. Okay. Yes. But the head of the CIA is in it. Okay. You got to get approval from the CIA to be in a CIA documentary. That doesn't just happen casually. Like he says, are you getting that phone call from your agent? And no, she's not acting. She's specifically referring to her mother's business model. EMPs. So she's not acting. She's involved. And so people of course online were so angry about it. The Israel firsters, Mark Levin tweeted this is this some AI production. If not, what a total disgrace. Then this Aetan Fishburger said this is some sick stuff from Joe Rogan, as if Erica hasn't been through enough already. How about just acknowledging that you do not have the power to transform reality. Just you're losing. You're losing this repeat battle to try to tell us that up is down and down is up. And everybody consents that something is not right with Erica. Everybody consents that it is not normal for somebody to lie. It's not normal for an organization to be angry, even if Joe Kent had released every single message and said, this is what Charlie was going through. How would that hurt Erica? Somebody explain how that would hurt Erica to get closer to determining what was going on in his life in the last few days, especially when people are lying. None of this would be weird if Josh Hammer came out and was like, dang, he was pretty far up in a day before. I feel so bad. That was our last conversation. They were honest about what happened in the Hamptons. It happens. You get into arguments with people. If I got into an argument with somebody and the police asked me, I wouldn't be up there like, we never had any issues at all. We never even had one miscommunicate. No, that is he just loved me every second of every. Nothing was weird. I would be like, oh my gosh, we had a massive fight yesterday. I hear the messages. I feel so too. Are you kidding me? Gosh, life can be taken from any moment. They don't know how to just be normal and not lie. Just tell the truth and don't get upset if you believe somebody else is telling the truth and that's what they're angry about. They are angry that Joe Kent is echoing what everyone has said. We all told the truth instantly. I told you the truth based off of my discussions with Charlie about where his headspace was at when it came to Israel. I didn't need Joe Kent for that. I didn't even know Joe Kent at all. I had never had a single communication with Joe Kent until after Charlie was assassinated. That is the honest to God truth. I didn't know this man at all. And so this whole idea that everyone's colluding, colluding to tell the truth, Megyn Kelly told the truth. Tara Carlson told the truth. And you guys hate us for that. You guys want us canceled and attacked for having the spine to do what you did not. You were going to allow a hostile takeover of his legacy and we said hell no. So there it is. Anyway, I'm going to, I didn't realize you were kind of running up against time. I want to get to your comments. So I think we are going to throw it to a brief break and we'll come back and I'll answer some of your comments. All right, you guys, when you think about your future, you probably picture your family, your home, and the life that you're building. But here's a harder question. What happens to all of that if you're not here? Life insurance isn't really about you. It's about protecting the people that you love and making sure that they can cover the mortgage, pay off debts, and keep moving forward no matter what happens. That's where Ethos comes in. Ethos makes it simple to protect your family's future. You can apply online in just minutes with no medical exam. 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So, we have a couple of top comments from last episode. Betty writes, saying, Erica never sought the spotlight is like saying Ben Shapiro never brings up Israel. And that is in response to Andrew Colbert, who said, Erica didn't ever want the limelight. It's like, I'm sorry, bud, have you paid attention to my Erica timeline? I can't find a moment when she wasn't seeking the limelight. This next user, Ted Bundy's ghost writes, a woman who applied for numerous reality shows can never claim that she was not looking for the limelight. Yeah, it's an absurd, it's absurd allegation that she was not ever pursuing the spotlight. It is just pointedly wrong and I don't know why he would say it, but he just says stuff a lot of the time and that's our guy Andrew Colbert. Your punishment is more truth. Comments on this episode. Lindsay Burr writes, Candice, your ability to speak truth with clarity and humor is unmatched in a time that feels upside down. Your voice cuts through the noise. The sarcasm isn't just funny, it wakes people up. You are not alone. You've got an army behind you. It was so good over the weekend. It's been my first event in a really long time. I had such anxiety leading up to it. The Catholics for Catholics event, just because watching Charlie be publicly assassinated, not all of us could be like Erica, who was spying the next day and said she felt no fear. I had a lot of fear and anxiety and apprehension and it just felt so good to get back out into the public and to see so many people at the airport and people that were swarming us and you do need to plug back in with the fighters. You need to go out and get together with people that are like-minded and to appreciate how loved you are all the time. You need to go out and see people and take pictures with people and have them say, I listened to this and I had this little tidbit and I messaged you. So, I really just want to say thank you to you guys because it just felt like so rehabilitative to be out in public. And we just had a fantastic event at Catholics for Catholics. And I appreciate you guys more than you'll ever know. Jonathan Bynow writes, We love you and support you, Candace. Thank you for your voice. God bless you. Thank you, Jonathan. Anthony writes, Please start calling it knee-vada. I love this show. It disturbs me every time you call it Nevada. Connecticut's not doing that. Look at me, Anthony. Connecticut is not doing it. This is even different. You say knee-vada. We say Nevada. And Ashley, you say Nevada. So, where are you from, Anthony? Where are you from, Anthony? Nobody knows where you're from, Anthony. That you're saying knee-vada. That's crazy. I need to know where in the U.S. they're saying knee-vada. It's Nevada, not Nevada. People in Nevada say Nevada, but that's just wrong. I don't know what to tell you. What does it even come from? Look, what does the word Nevada mean, actually? It'll help us more. We got to do a whole episode on Nevada one day. Venasita writes, Someone start the petition for Candace's nominations for Joe Kent's former job. I just always think I'm going to get called. I thought Turing Point was going to call me when they needed somebody in PR because I could help them. Like, hey, you guys have to pretend you're surprised about the Egyptian planes. Like, you're concerned. You guys have to pretend, like, you're surprised that Joe Kent is saying that the investigation was blocked. You should be concerned, not angry, concerned. I can help them with regular human emotions. You know, if everybody's adjoined at Turing Point USA, they need me. And go in there, give them a little bit of humanity. This is how humans feel when they hear this information. And I can help, you know, input their algorithms. They understand, cannot process. What do you mean I'm supposed to feel sad or concerned? I'm here for that. Hire me. Bonita. Ooh, okay. Sky always got something. The name Nevada, it's, oh, it's Spanish. Originally from the Spanish adjective Nevada. So I'm definitely right, right? Yeah. Yeah, like snow, but they say, ada. They don't say, they don't say, ada. There's no, ada in Spanish. Right, Sky? You agree you speak Spanish. See? Connecticut wins. What's up, Connecticut in the chat. Whoop, whoop. I'm representing. It's your girl. It's your girl, Candace. I told you I'd never let you down, Connecticut. Bonita, Joshua writes, hey, Candace, support from South Africa. Keep fighting the good fight. Anthony, where are you from, Anthony? So I want to go back to Anthony. Where is Anthony from? Anthony's crazy, craziest person. I wrote a comment as Anthony. See Zach run, writes, let's throw the whole pot of spaghetti on the wall. See what sticks and how much falls on the floor. These people are pure evil. Take everyone, not on their side out. It is sad to see Bonjino become a little man trying to link Candace and Joe. Yeah, I didn't know what it was about. They were all over this. I'm like, guys, drop the receipts. I never got classified information from Joe Kent. Like I said, the person who told me about the Chex chain originally was Andrew Colvett. So it's so wild to hear him sit up there and be like, well, this is whatever. And again, why are you upset about that? Why are you upset about more information being given to the public? He says, well, I was trying to protect innocent people, innocent people that were lying to the public and saying, Charlie never blinked on Israel. When they were arguing with him the night before, knew how stressed he was, knew how grieved he was. Those people are therefore not innocent people. Okay? Innocent people don't lie. They don't lie. Okay? I'm not saying they're guilty of a crime for lying, but I'm saying they're not innocent people because they lie. So anyways, let me not get fired up. It's been a fun Monday, you guys. If you'd like to support our show, merch on a website, I'm going to have some Aubrey. I feel like I should be wearing an Aubrey hat. I don't know. I just can't believe what happened to Aubrey, bro. It hurts. We got new merch on the website, cannesones.com. Easiest way to support the show. You can also buy my book. Everybody has been really enjoying that. You can get a bundle and you can have both of my books signed or you can just buy the book by itself, make him a sandwich. I'm really proud of that book anyway. And so I appreciate all you guys that tag me when you get it too. Please tag me on Instagram. It's a little thing that always just perks up my day a little bit. Anyway, we will see you guys tomorrow. Bye.