Go Birds! 2026 Draft Preview: Offensive Tackle Rankings With Devin Jackson

What's going on everybody? Let's get into it. Let's go. Let's get on the clock with the Go Birds on the Clock draft series. And we got a very special episode today because for the first time in the on the clock series, the first time we have a true draft expert on the pod. We have Devin Jackson from the Philadelphia Inquirer, sports editor slash NFL draft writer for the Inquirer. Devin, what up, man? How you doing? Doing great. Thanks for having me on, Elliot. I'm really excited to talk with you about the NFL draft, talk to these office attack prospects and really get into it. So yeah, I'm excited. I'll be on site for the draft in a few weeks in this room. So it'll be it'll be a very excited to be there and taking all the festivities. Yeah, no, I'm super excited to have you. So for those that might not be familiar with Devin, if you've ever seen a video on Eagles Twitter of a draft prospect over the past month on your for you page or whatever, it's probably from Devin Jackson. You've been crushing it over the last month. I've been seeing your stuff for so long on the for you page and I thought I was following you this whole time. And then I finally toss you that follow a little bit ago. So you've been really crushing it. And it's a perfect time for you to come in to talk about this because so far we've done the skill position players. We've done receiver running back tight end quarterback, basically the positions that I can watch and know what I'm looking at. Now we get to a point where we need some true draft experts to come in and talk about this, which is really maybe the most critical position for the Eagles in this upcoming draft. Obviously, when AJ Brown is traded, receiver becomes in need tight end. Once again, all of them are on one year contracts. And as we talked about in the running back pod, this might be safe ones last year with the team too. So there are needs on the roster. But I think for the past year and really, you know, it's gotten louder with Landon Dickerson potentially retiring and now Lane Johnson entering his last year. Tackle is a huge, huge position heading into the strap. So I guess my first question for you would be just how do you view the Eagles Tackle position right now? And do you think it is the biggest need on the roster? Yeah, I think it's the biggest need because it's the hardest position to get to acquire. You know, you think about there are not many free agent tackles out there that are one worth paying and two, there's a reason that they're available usually is because, you know, the team that they were currently are previously on, you know, didn't see the value in them having them long term. So it's the hardest position to get right. I feel like it's the hardest position to make sure that you have, you know, a plan for if your current starter retires. I mean, you look at the Detroit Lions, they all of a sudden have a need to tackle. And, you know, you go into thinking that you're going to have a starter for 10, 12 years. And then when it gets close to that time, you know, I feel like a lot of teams aren't ready for that transition. And we always talk about how the Eagles like to get the guys that they want a year early, you know, or two years early. And obviously, we saw that last year with Jahad Campbell being ready to go for when the Kobe Dean hit free agency. You know, same thing with the safety position, you know, we were expecting, you know, some turnover at that position, they had Drew McCuba, and obviously, they traded, you know, Sydney Brown and, you know, they let re-blankish a walk in free agency. So I think a tackle, you know, this is a position that you have to draft early, especially to get it right to have a long term starter. And if you think about kind of the hit rate over the last, you know, five or six drafts, like a day to tackle does not work out more times than not, you know, you want to get, if you're going to get a tackle that you're looking to have, you know, one be a starter and two being kind of your long term option, your best bet is taking at round one. Obviously, the Eagles have, you know, been fortunate with Jordan Milano. They took him, you know, late in round seven, and he's turned out to be, you know, an all pro level player, but that's not, that's an anomaly is certainly not standard. Yeah. No, I think it's a good point. I also think what's interesting about their tackle position right now is do they draft someone because you're right, you want to get someone early and we'll talk about some of the prospects that are projected to go in the first round, maybe some potential trade up candidates, but a tough spot there in is when you draft someone in the first round, you want him to play right away. That rookie contract ends up, I mean, it starts the second you draft them, right? You're on the clock with that him only being on a cheap rate for three years. If he ends up being a good player because you pay him after that third year, the Eagles go into this season with Lane and Milada set to start. Now we know that Lane unfortunately misses time, so there's a chance that you draft a tackle and four games into the season. He's starting the rest of the year. So there is that, but the other aspect of this, and we'll talk about it with different players is while we're going to focus on the tackles today, I do think they would like to draft somebody that they feel like could play guard potentially in year one, because then you're getting him on the field. You're getting value there. Tyler Steen, I thought played well last year. I'm not sure where you're at with Tyler Steen, but I don't think he played well enough where you couldn't possibly bench him if, especially for a first round pick. So that is one thing they have to consider and something they have to balance is do they draft the best tackle prospect that straight up is like he is the best tackle. He can play that position. We feel confident about it, but he can't play guard or how much would it matter to you that this guy could potentially play guard in year one? So he has a clear path to get onto the field, but maybe isn't as good of a tackle prospect. Yeah, I think the hard thing about that, that second part there is a guy that can play guard and slide out to tackle is that, you know, with their really good at guard, you know, I mean, it's a good problem to have. And, you know, it's a really good, you know, situation to be in if a guy slides to guard and all of a sudden he's all pro level from a jump. Then it makes it a little bit more difficult to move them out to tackle, even though, you know, you're drafting with the mindset of long term tackle. So yeah, I think that would be the only hang up is like if he's really good at guard, you know, what do you do then? And again, that's a good problem to have. That's a good problem to kind of think about. But I also think there are not many guys that are going to be able to, at least going in that first round area, that is going to be able to do that, you know, like to me, the two guys that probably make the most sense that I feel like the Eagles realistic, we will be able to do that with is obviously Kate and Proctor from Alabama, then Spencer Fano from Utah. But Fano is going to be an interesting one. We can talk more about him in a second. But I think there aren't many guys, unfortunately, that fit that mold. And then, you know, if you're going to try and do that, I think that will be a little bit challenging with some of these other prospects that we'll talk about. But to me, that's kind of why I thought about the last couple of years, like I've been a big like Traff the often to Lyman in the first round for a couple of years now, you know, I think about the last couple of drafts. And there were a few guys that that, you know, I'm thinking about that could have done this exact situation. And I think we'll have been just fine, you know, like Troy Fortuno from Washington a few years ago. I feel like he made a lot of sense to do that. And he ended up missing a lot of his rookie year. But then he came in and look really solid for the Steelers last year attack. But yeah, there I think this has always been the thought of mine, like this is a, you know, obviously, it's it's not ideal situation because you don't want a guy that doesn't really have that guard experience, then you're kind of throwing me into the fire. But at the same time, you know, I think a lot of teams want to have the best five on the field. And I think, you know, obviously having a guy that has the ability and potential to move in to play guard, I think that will be your best case scenario. But I just don't think there's many of those guys in this class. Yeah. And I think the point you made about the best five is true because while we're going to talk about Lane and my lot and we've already brought enough Tyler Steen like Landon could retire in a year. My lot, I think they've been pretty lucky. Knock on wood. He's not missed much time, but he has been banged up. He's just played through it. So I think they're in a position where really outside of center, which none of these players will qualify for today, you do just have to get a quality young offensive lineman on the roster because they're at a real point of transition on the team. So let's dive into it. All right. So here's how I went about picking these guys. So first of all, obviously we got the main guys that we'll talk about. But for me, as someone that went to temple, so not really big college football guy, I'm not breaking down SEC tape, but like for what I look for an offensive tackle prospects that catch my attention are a youth. We know the Eagles want to go with somebody young because if they are going to sit for a year, you know, you don't, you can't draft a 24 year old and then have him sit or, you know, have him switch positions in a year. The size, obviously we know they like long, big athletic offensive lineman. They're not unique at that. Everyone wants that from their offensive line position, but I'm not interested in somebody that is unathletic, but like has awesome technique. That's just, you can teach technique. You can't teach athleticism. And as Stoutland has always said, I know he's not here anymore. Like I want unique qualities in my offensive lineman. So age, athletic qualities, but then I do value versatility. Like if they played multiple positions in college, I think that's a really good indicator of them being able to do it in the NFL, especially guys that have played on both sides. I really like that. So what I did was I went through all the prospects and found some that check either all three of those boxes or two out of the three. So let's get into it. And you mentioned Spencer Fano from Utah already, but I would say him, and it seems like I'm not great at pronouncing names. You should know that from the jump Devin, but Francis Moaga, I think out of Miami is that close? Uh, Malanoa. So I wasn't close at all. All right, Malanoa. I wasn't close at all. See, this is why it's good to have a draft expert here. So those two guys, it seems like most mock drafts that I looked at, they're probably going before the Eagles pick. Do you agree with that? And do you view either as somebody that it's worth trading up for? Like you're giving up maybe a second round pick or even another first, which would be a high price clearly. But do you view either of those two guys is special enough where the Eagles could draft them? I mean, one is not even 21. Um, and then Spencer is not 22 yet. So they're both young, both big, both six, six. So what do you think of those two prospects? I think if you're looking for a guy that, that brings that versatility, um, that I think could start year one at most spots and offense line and probably Fano. Um, I think with Malanoa, he is he play right tackle. Obviously, uh, you know, I think he doesn't have the arm length that you're looking for in terms of being a for sure tackle, uh, which makes me think he might end up playing guard at the end of the phone. Some places had him as a guard vote, like umping inside. Yeah. So you think that's probably where his home will be, or you think he could play tackle? I think that's where his home should be. I could see a team, if they're going to take him inside the top 10, they're probably playing in my tackle. But I think with Fano, I am more enamored with him because I think he is more athletic. Uh, he's a little bit more versatile. Uh, he brings more from a, uh, you know, I think a run game perspective. I think he's really flew as a, as a pass protector. Uh, and I believe he has a wrestling background too that I think is going to be really interesting and that I know, you know, sometimes the offense line coaches really like and really bring to, to the, the, you know, bring to the table. So I think with Fano, I, I would be more apt to trade out for him if he starts to follow in those teens, late teens. And you know, it seems like, you know, to me, like if you want to get a guy like him, you're going to have to jump ahead of Detroit in my opinion, because I feel like Detroit is the one team ahead of the Eagles. Obviously the charters who are the two, or two, you know, I think spots that, you know, they could be in a similar situation, especially the charters, because I feel like obviously they have Joe and Rashawn Slater, but they're, they need an upgrade at guard. And I feel like Fano kind of fits if they're trying to look for a guy that can, can move from tackle to guard. I think he'd be a guy that they're looking for. So if they're really interested and really intrigued by Fano, I think that he'd be willing to trade up for Maui Noah. I, I think the, you know, the, the arm length per thing, you know, the arm length perspective. And, and, you know, just with him, you know, he's a really, you know, kind of rugged, you know, he wants to finish guys through the ground, all that, all that type of stuff. I think he fits the play demeanor, and the consistency aspect, but I think he is more of a really strong player. I don't know if he has special qualities. I think Fano has special qualities. All right. So just listening to that, I would guess that Fano, Fano seems like the one they would move up for the short arms only played one position, not loving that about, about Mao. I'm going to mispronounce that again, because it's just not my strength. But so would you give up a second to go up for Spencer Fano out of Utah? Um, I think so. I think because the Eagles have two thirds, it makes it a little bit more palatable to do that, because then you can trade one of your thirds to move up back into the second if you really want to. I don't think it will be a popular thing to do. I feel like if it did happen, but I think in the long term, he would answer a lot of their problems, you know, whether it be, you know, at left guard of the future, right guard of the future or right tackle, you know, I think he play all three positions. Yeah. So I agree. I don't think trading up for a tackle would be a popular move. I think people are going to want receivers, you know, uh, safeties in need. I don't know, 23, like what the fit would be there, but I agree. Moving up for tackle wouldn't be popular, but I would just remind people, I think the main reason the offense struggled last year was the offensive line. I don't know where you're at on Ptulo. We don't have to get into a Ptulo debate right now. But like, I just think with better offensive line play last year, they probably beat the Niners. They, you know, obviously AJ has to make some catches there. But if they go up for an offensive lineman, won't be exciting, but I think a better offensive line is the quickest path to them being a better offense last year. As much as people want Sean Manion to scheme, you know, and do all these things, it doesn't matter if you don't have good offensive line play. And if Fred Johnson, as he played admirably last year, you want better players and that coming off the bench. So I agree, wouldn't be popular, but I think for Eagles fans, it should be a move they would be behind if the Eagles feel it's the right one. All right, the next player, and this is one I've actually been following, and I know about him a little bit. So I'm a bit of a headstart here, but Caden Proctor out of Alabama. And there's obviously a ton to like about this guy. He's not even 21 years old, six, seven, 352 pounds, huge sides, explosiveness. It feels like to me, he is the pre, the premier athlete at the offensive line among the top guys. Do you agree with that? And what do you think about Proctor? Yeah, he's the guy that, you know, I think in most draft classes, you are going to take, you know, you know, one of the first guys off the board. Yeah, you know, I think coming into the year, you expecting him to make a tremendous leap, you know, potentially getting that top five, top 10 conversation. It never really happened. You know, and I think the most interesting thing is that he was pretty open about, you know, what kind of went wrong for him, you know, when in this particular season, you know, he came in a little bit heavier than he wanted to. I think like in a 360 area, and then he started to lose way over the course of the season. And you saw him play a lot better down the stretch. To me, I think, you know, you talk to him, and you get to know him. He's a really, really smart player, you know, really understands how to use his athleticism. I mean, they're throwing screens to him, you know, they're throwing passes to him in Alabama. Yeah, he's such a unique athlete, unique player. And to me, I feel like this is such a big conversation because if Jeff Stoutland was in the building, I feel like everyone will be no brainer. You know, this is the guy that we need to take. And I feel like they still might feel that way, you know, even with with no Stoutland, because like, you know, really good guys his size, you know, you don't really get guys that that, you know, move as well athletically as he does at that size. And then three, there, this is kind of the big conversation of, you know, a guy that can play guard early in his career and move out the tackle. This is kind of the prototype that you're kind of looking for in terms of what you want and that type of player. You know, I think for him, it's all about technique. And I think that's the big thing with him is that the technique just isn't there on a consistent snap to snap basis. You know, he's a guy that I think still is relying a little bit on that athleticism and size to, you know, block guys and keep them from the quarterback. And, you know, I think I can get them in trouble against guys that are a little bit more skilled, a little bit more explosive. But in terms of, you know, checking the boxes, you know, big time recruit, you know, a multi-year starter, you know, a guy that, you know, was highly thought of in the locker room, really works hard. And I think also knows himself, you know, and knows the playing way that he ideally wants to be at. He said he wants to be in that 340 to 350 range, you know, at the NFL level was opposed to being north of 350 to 355. And I think that kind of speaks volumes to like the player, like he knows who he is, knows the type of player he is, and knows that the playing way is going to be very critical at the NFL level, because, you know, you don't want to be moving too slow out there. You don't want to get, you know, too tired early in the game. And then all of a sudden, you're kind of laboring a little bit. So I think, you know, he has kind of the, I think the mindset and the ability to, you know, handle pressure because playing Alabama, that's a lot of pressure, you know, and post next saving era, things didn't go exactly well for him at points in 2024, but then he bounced back late in that season in 2025. Same thing, got to a slow start, but finished really strong. And I think, I think he's going to be highly valued in the league. So he's a player to me that again, you know, I talked about Detroit as a team that could end up taking him. You know, all indications I've gotten is that Detroit really likes him and really likes the player. And, you know, if he's there at 17 for them, I think he would be off the board. So I think that's the only drawback potentially of getting a guy like hidden proctor is that he might be gone inside the top 15, 20. Yeah. So loving what I'm hearing about him from you. He sounds like such an Eagles pick. I do agree with the Jeff Stoutland aspect of it. I think he's someone, when if they drafted him and Jeff Stoutland was here, everybody will go crazy. Like, Southland, you here we go. And we'll see what Chris Cooper can do. You know, it doesn't seem like his track record of development in Minnesota was that great. But I love the tools. Howie Roseman has said when talking about Jeff Stoutland departing, that him and Stoutland saw players the same way. So I do still think they will prioritize those like ultra athletic guys. And I will say too, like Lane likes playing next to a larger guard. That's one thing that throughout his career has been true. I don't think it's a coincidence. Maccabrecton played better, you know, obviously with the Eagles and he did with the Chargers, but I also don't think it's coincidence. Lane was awesome with Becdon was here and he liked playing next to tall big guards, Brandon Brooks, Evan Mathis back in the day. So like, he's always, he's always enjoyed that part of it. So I think six seven 350 pounds. You said he wants to get down to 340 or ish 340 350 range. I really, really like Kate and Proctor as a as a pick for the Eagles at 23. All right, the next two I wanted to talk to you about and I believe this player was just in Philadelphia for a top 30 visit. Caleb Lomu out of Utah. Is that right? There we go. I got that one. And then the next one Monroe Freeling out of Georgia. Caleb Lomu just over 21 years old, 6 6 313 pounds only played left tackle in college, I believe. So it doesn't have the position versatility at least in college. Viewed as a good not great athlete when you read the scouting reports. And then Monroe Freeling just over 21 years old actually will be 22 in a few months. Six seven though, 315 pounds also only played left tackle. We know the Eagles really value those top 30 visits. If you look at their history of players they draft, they're mostly off those top 30 visits. So what do you know about Caleb Lomu and Monroe Freeling and potential fits with the Eagles? Yeah, Freeling is an interesting one because I believe he only has 16 career starts, you know, at Georgia. You know, he was kind of banged up a little bit this past season in 2025. I think he had tight rope ankle surgery. So he was a little bit in and out of the lineup in the early parts of the season. But you can see down the stretch of the year, things started to really click for him. It seemed like it was starting to make sense. He the game slowed down a little bit for him. And, and, you know, he talked a little bit about that at his combine podium that, you know, he understand he started to understand the game a little bit more clearly, you know, excellent athlete, you know, lying on his feet, you know, past protection. You know, he does a lot of things in space. You know, he blocks really well in space. And I think that's a big, you know, trait to his game, you know, is that he can block out in space, you know, can get on the move and block eyes and get to the second level. And I think that's where he really, really shines. But he's a guy that, you know, still fairly young, still fairly inexperienced, needs to add more weight to his frame, you know, gets stronger in this upper body. But I think the most interesting nugget about him is that during the pandemic, his, his mom, who's a yoga instructor, got him into yoga and he's really, really flexible, really, really athletic. And he talked a little bit about that as well. So this is a guy that, you know, I think one of all the guys we've discussed so far, he's probably the most athletic tackle in this class. You know, you think more than Proctor. Yeah, yeah, I think so. So I think with Freeling, he's, there's a lot of that, you know, aspect and just a young player with a big runway. And you're hoping in two to three years, he's going to be, you know, a high level starter. So I think with Freeling, he's a more sit and wait type of player. I'm not sure you want to, you know, throw him into the fire just yet. And I think that's going to make his projection in where he exactly goes. Interesting. So I was going to ask you, where would you feel comfortable taking him if you're the Eagles? It will be at 23, honestly. I wouldn't trade up to get him because I feel like he is a guy that's not going to be ready to play for you right away and doesn't bring positional flex, flexibility. Okay. So you don't think you can move in the guard? I don't think so. Okay. And I feel the same about Lomu. I think both those guys are mostly tackle only prospects. I think with Lomu, he's a really strong pass protector, has some pretty good feet, you know, mirroring ability. I also think the strength aspect he needs to get better at, you know, anchoring against power, I think he also needs to get better at. So I think both those guys are in kind of that developmental bucket where you want to take them the first round, they have the tools and traits to go in the first round. But are you going to throw them out in year one? I say ideally, probably not. But I think we're free. And he's probably more apt to get selected and thrown out into the fire immediately versus Lomu, who I think is more of a, you know, you kind of get him acclimated to the game and, and, you know, continue to get him stronger and, you know, possibly ready for year two. So I think those guys, while they're probably both going to go in the first round, because, you know, it's a tackle, needy league, I think both of those guys are need quite a bit of development before you feel really comfortable with them being an upper echelon starter. All right. So first round, we talked about a bunch of the guys, I don't know if there's anyone you feel like we've missed yet, that would be a potential of 23. But I would throw this to you if the options are trade up for Spencer of they know, but no, out of Utah, or just take move up for Kate and Proctor or take Freeling or Caleb Lomu out of Utah, 23. What are how would you kind of power rank those? You're how you're going into the draft night. What how would you power rank those decisions? Yeah, I think moving up for Fano is probably number one. Just like him that much. You like him that. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I think that would be best case scenario, in my opinion. This is the player that I think, you know, if you're going to go off into line and you want him to start in year one, I think he is more ready to do that. I think Proctor is probably right behind that. And then I say stick with Monroe Freeling at 23 would be the top three for me. Okay. Interesting. All right. So now let's get into the next group of guys, you know, that that seemed like maybe out of the first round. I don't if there's a name you think we missed that is a potential attack. I know there's the Penn State Guard that some people feel like can maybe swing out a little bit. But if you're looking at that next group of guys, some names I had down Blake Miller out of Clemson, Markel Bell out of Miami. And I'm not even going to attempt to say this one, but out of Arizona State Max Max Maxi Ham chore. Okay. That was not how I was going to pronounce it. So out of those three, do you view that? Do you view those three as the next kind of class of tackle? And if so, how would you rank them? What do you like about each of them? Yeah. So I think the next hour ranked them like Miller Maxi Han and chore and then Markel Bell. I think Markel Bell is probably more of a day to pick. Okay. I think he's more like third round probably. So I would say six nine just for people might use six nine almost 350 pounds, not even 22 yet. I believe it'll be 22 by the time the season starts, but just pure athleticism. I mean, six nine, that's a pretty special quality there. Yeah, absolutely. But yeah, I think that's how I rank it. I think Blake Miller of the three is more ready to start in the league than Eana Chor and Markel Bell. I think with Miller, he is to me, if you're ever talking about a prospect with, you know, a high floor, I think Miller kind of fits that. He's a four year starter at Clemson. And, you know, improved every single year has really good athleticism. Has played on both sides of the line too. Yeah, has played on both sides of the line. You know, the, you know, he talked about the combine, how he models this game after line Lane Johnson. So it's, you know, I think for, for him, if you're looking at him, I think if you're going to take him in the first round, it's probably because of a trayback, you know, and those guys that we mentioned already are not there. You know, I told that three and I feel like with Miller, he's, you know, a player that I don't know if you would move him to guard necessarily. I think he's kind of in that tackle only bucket. I would say probably probably him and he Han short are kind of in that same boat. But yeah, I think if you're taking Miller or you're taking any Han short, and I think both those guys have a chance to go in that first round early second, you're probably taking them because you didn't have anyone that you liked at 23, you know, maybe you decided to trade back, you know, a little bit later in the first round and you still want to address often to line. But yeah, I think with the Han, he Han and short, he's such an interesting background, you know, grew up playing soccer, you know, that's kind of kind of a guy that, you know, played multiple sports growing up. He's still relatively new to the tackle position. I think he only just started playing like toward the end of high school. So he's still relatively new position. Athleticism is apparent when you, you know, at the combine, you know, play, he did really some nice things throughout the draft process at senior bowl combine, you know, obviously at his pro day as Mike Vrabel, you know, going through drills with him. So he's certainly a guy that I feel like is on an upward trajectory, is kind of check the boxes. Obviously the Eagles brought him for 30 visits. So I was going to say he sounds like he has Eagles written all over him. Multiple athletes, super athletic, you know, I guess a little on the older side at 22 and a half, but that's still relatively young. No, he's screaming Eagle to me here and you described. Yeah, absolutely. And then you go to Markel Bell. I think he's one of more interesting players, you know, talked about 69346, you know, not a guy that's, that's, you know, linear, linear, linearly, you know, athletic, like straight line speed, but he does have some nice feet, some nice footwork. He's a guy that you just can't get past, you know, I feel like he's kind of in that my lot of, you know, mode where he's just so big and, you know, moves pretty well with the size that you just want those guys, you can't really get through or get past. So he will be an interesting player to me because I think if you're thinking, I mean, even at 69, I'm not sure that he's probably too tall to play guard, you know, because it just the size and, you know, one of the things about him is the pad level, his pad level, he plays a little bit too high. So I don't think he would land in that guard spot. But in terms of interesting, you know, you know, down the line potential starter, you know, I think if you're, if you miss out on the first wave of tackles, you know, around one and still want to get one on day two, he will make a lot of sense. Do you think he will be there when the Eagles pick? Like there's a chance of that? Or is he more of a trade up and round two type of guy? He'll be there, I think, at 54. I think he is, you know, I put him around that third round range. So I think I think he'll be there at 54. All right. So the next group of guys I wanted to talk to you about, Jude Bowery out of Boston College, I believe the Eagles are bringing in on a top 30 Mike Reese of ESPN just reported that. Isaiah World from Oregon, I also believe a top 30 visit for him. Both of them have played both sides of the line. Isaiah World played 40 at left tackle nine at right tackle. Jude Bowery similar more at left tackle, but two at a right tackle. And then Drew Shelton has only played left tackle out of Penn State. Out of those three, where do you view them going and how do you view their fit with the Eagles? And do you like any of them particularly as prospects? Yeah, I like Bowery probably most of the of that group. I think he's a really interesting player. You know, he went to the senior bowl and didn't perform as well as I hoped he would. And they like the senior bowl. They value that. Yeah. Yeah. And I really like this tape. You know, just just what he brings from in an athletics standpoint, really as a pass protector, I think that's his the strength of his game. The run game is a little bit hit or miss. But as a pass protector, he did some really nice things. Moving or wise, I think he's pretty skilled for a guy that's probably going to go late day two, early day three. So I think like third, fourth round areas for him. And I think, you know, athleticism, athleticism wise, he checks the box there. But it's kind of hard to say Zachary's going to go because I feel like he might get pushed up the board a little bit just because you know, I think the you know, tackles are going to come off always come off much earlier than we anticipate. But yeah, I think he's he's a guy that, you know, for one of those third round picks for the Eagles at 68 or 64 and 98. I think you will make a lot of sense. Is a potential guy there. In terms of Drew Sheldon and Isaiah world, I both I think both those guys are day three guys. Guys that you're taking is more developmental swings. With the the hard thing about Isaiah world is that he's a little bit of an older prospect that he's like, I was going to say he's about to be 23. Yeah, or maybe and other and coming to the year he was a guy that Holly was highly thought of in the scouting community. And a lot of people were expecting to kind of take that leap. He moved from Nevada to Oregon, you know, has some really special qualities, athleticism, a his big size, but it just didn't come together. Technique wise, things kind of fell apart down the stretch of the year. He obviously tours ACL in January in their Cosplay semi final. So I think they bring the Eagles bringing them in for 30 visits per medically. Yeah, he didn't go to the combine either. So I think they want to check to see when he might be ready. There was reporting that he probably be ready to play by late October early November. So he's probably a red shirt candidate if you're if you're drafting him, which probably makes me think he goes on day three. Then what you show them, I think he is an interesting one because some people view him kind of as an interior, often to line prospect, like something maybe at center, maybe a guard, he'd be a better fit. You know, I think his 2024 tape was a little bit better than 2025, which is why I think he'd be available in day three. But I think he's a solid player that that probably is more of a, you know, swing, you know, can play multiple positions type of player versus starring at the NFL level. All right. So the next group of guys, and these are two players that definitely have a ton of position versus Tilly at least did in college and Rique Cruz out of Kansas 16 starts at right tackle 14 starts at left tackle. As you mentioned, like a bit on the older side, he will be 23, I believe, before the season begins. And Gavin Ortega not even 22 yet, but is about to be 22. 24 starts at left tackle 11 sat starts at right tackle. So two guys that have played on both sides of the line. Hey, how do you feel about them as prospects and where do you envision them going? Yeah, I think both of them are later day three guys, probably fifth, sixth, seventh round type of players. I think they're like, especially for them, I think you're looking at, you know, best case scenario for them as swing tackles and guys that can kind of fill depth in your offensive line room. Cruz, I thought had had a really strong all star game circuit and, you know, he caught my eye a little bit. But yeah, I think he they're I think both those guys are more later round prospects, probably, you know, to kind of fill out your offensive line room. You're hoping that they can turn them maybe a swing tackle type. I think they're they're late day three. Okay, so I think other guys that are probably viewed as late as later picks Khalil Benson out of Indiana, James Neil, the third, both played on both sides of the line. Benson played some snaps at guard as well. So he's been on the right side, but played tackle and at guard out of those two, you know, day three picks as well, I'm assuming. And do you see a fit there with the Eagles with either of them? Yeah, nothing Benson is a bigger player too. So I think Gar probably is a more natural fit for him at the NFL level. But yeah, I think those guys again, more late round prospects. I think Benson makes a lot of sense if you're, you know, picking, laying a draft or you're looking for a guy that's a potential UDFA and a guy that they maybe can develop into, you know, a depth piece at guard. But yeah, I think what Benson specifically, you know, he played tackle, I think out of necessity for Indiana, but the skill set and the size, I think fits a lot better at guard. Cool. So this has been unbelievable. I feel like I've learned so much from this, but are there any players we didn't talk about that you think Eagles fans should know that you really like at the tackle position, maybe anyone that can, you know, swing inside the guard, but anyone we didn't talk about you want to highlight to educate the the GoBirds family on? Yeah, there's a few guys to me that that probably are going to be better fits at guard at the NFL level. Gettings dunker from Iowa. He's a big, big right tackle at Iowa. Everyone kind of knows him for his hair. He has long, full hair. I love that. But he's a guy to me that, you know, I think the Eagles should be interested in, you know, because I think, you know, he played right tackle in college, but when he went down to the senior bowl, he played more interior, played more guard, and he looked more natural doing so. I think, you know, he, the run game ability, I think, you know, if you're looking for a guy that has athleticism and can move and move guys out the ball, I think getting stunker makes a lot of sense from that perspective. Caleb Tiernan, the Northwestern tackle, left tackle, who I think has about the sub 33 inch arms, the cutoff there for off to tackle prospects. I think he's a guy that that can end up moving, moving a guard and moving the interior. And I think he'd be an interesting player on day two, both those guys, I think, are more day two picks than, than, you know, necessarily in round one. Obviously, we talked about Mark Halbell already. Yeah. Travis Burke from Memphis, who the Eagles brought in or or our bringing in for a 30 visit. I think he's interesting from Memphis. He played both sides of the line left and right tackle in his college career at, I believe, FIU and Memphis. He played both spots there. And I think he, you know, he's another guy that's six foot nine, but he's a little bit on the lighter side, three 15. I think he's more of a tackle only prospect, but he's a really nasty run game demeanor moves pretty well and pass protection. He's kind of been a buzzy name, you know, when in draft circles. He's a guy that just showed up in Dane Broogler's top 100 in the beast. And he's someone that's been going on a lot of pre draft visits and has a lot of buzz around his name. So I will mention him as well. Awesome. Well, look, thank you so much for taking the time to do this. As I said, I feel like I learned a lot in this. I'm hoping the audience did as well, because tackle is a really big important position for this team. These are players we will be talking about potentially in day one. So if you're not following Devin, you should be, as I said, you're probably seeing his stuff on Twitter all the time, but it's at the real D underscore Jackson. I'll tweet it out so everybody can see it. But thank you so much, man. I really appreciate you coming on the pod. Yeah, absolutely. Thanks so much for having me on. Yep.