Super Bowl 60, Seahawks Dominant Win, Sam Darnold SB Winner, Hank's Recap From Santa Clara And Soggy Sorrows + Who's Back Of The Week

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Welcome to part of my take presented by draft Kings the Crown is yours today is Monday, February 9th and it is Super Bowl 60. What? What? Some spread the swam back on the grounds of Kendall Sticpar we're a young swam saw the catch and we head out to Santa Clara where I our guy Zach he's out of the hotel room no longer has 105 degree fever who he's ready to go. Zach who? And done that San Francisco. Early on, it's all Jason Myers, the Rulo, hitting... Mucha say. Filco kicks out day. Well, of course he did. Mucha say. Whatcha say? Kinking Filco, hoes all day. But wait, Sam Ronald McDonald throws a double cheese touchdown please the AJ Barnars and Noble, who reads between the Patriots defensive lines quicker than those disclaimers on medication commercials, resulting in a Seahawks 6 points. Shortly after, Aubrey Drake made grand mistake in no new friends, no new friends, no new friends, no no no. With a toss there's Kyle McHalland, they saws Collins who poached his the pass, bringing it down to the end zone for 6 points. Finally, coma said DC, Drake on my boy, May gets more cullion day, shouting, scared, Donald, as he drops back and he has one out. Step to step by step, day by reminder, a fresh start over, different down to play, the deep adrick drops, the short of he slangs, maybe they'll be better, the second time around. Seahawks 29, Patriots 13. Great job, Zach, incredible job. What? Tough to do a boomer on that game. Let's just say that. What? Lot of field goals. All the field goals, boom. What? That was a great job, Zach. All right, thanks, boom. Football season might be over, but you know how it goes. The minute the big game ends, we're already talking about what's the next free agency, the draft, who's getting paid, who's grinding? Because for football guys, there's no offseason, and that's exactly why they roll with the Chevy Silverado. 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Okay, and that was fastest two minutes for Super Bowl 60 and the Seattle Seahawks are Super Bowl champions, an absolute masterclass by Mike McDonald, his defense Kenneth Walker, Super Bowl MVP, Jason Myers, points, points, points, it was PFT. It was an ass kicking. Ass kicking. As thoroughly dominant, a Super Bowl performance as I can recall in the last 11 months and 30 days, it was domination from start to finish. Like the score ended up not being as close, like the score looks a lot closer than the game was. It doesn't do it justice. Yeah, because it was ugly early, it was ugly middle, it was ugly late. The Seahawks had felt like in the fourth quarter that they're like, hey, we just got to get this game over with. Through three quarters, the Patriots had 78 total yards of offense in five first downs. Yeah. That's what they were doing to them. Hank is here. We're gonna break down the game after Hank leaves a little bit more and give all the credits to the Seahawks who they deserve a ton of credit and all the storylines and I'm so happy for Sam Dardold. Like just everything about this team has been, they were just dominant to route the playoffs this entire season, worthy champions start to finish. They were the best team in the regular season. Every team not named the Rams put together average 14 points against the Seahawks. The Rams average just over 28 points against the Seahawks. They were the one team that could do it. Yeah. And in the playoffs, that trend kept continuing on and they doubled up their opponents. They scored over 100 points. They allowed 46 points total during the playoffs. They were the best team in the league. So a deserving champion. Yeah, and Sam Dardold, I like it just so happy for me. It's crazy to think about that in the 2018 draft, you had the, it was Sam Dardold, Baker Mayfield, the Mar Jackson, Josh Allen. He is the first one to win a Super Bowl. Obviously, Josh Rosen as well. I don't think he's gonna win a Super Bowl. First one to win a Super Bowl out of that group. It also is, He might actually be the first to win one as an owner. Yeah, one day he might just make a ton of money in commercial real estate. Yeah, Josh Rosen. Yeah. It's also fitting for Sam Dardold because it felt like the last two years, we basically spent being like, will he turn back into a pumpkin? Then he had the end of last year happen. It's like, oh, see that Sam Dardold. Then this year happens like, oh, maybe it's different. He has the NFC Championship game, which was his defining win as a quarterback in terms of how he played. He played a perfect game. And pretty much everyone in the world was like Sam Dardold, like he wins a big game. He's not gonna turn back into a pumpkin, except Patriot's fans who was facing in the Super Bowl being like, we know Sam Dardold, he's the guy who sees ghosts. So the final hurdle of beating a team and getting everyone to switch the narrative of Sam Dardold, you can win a Super Bowl with that guy. He does it. And yeah, it wasn't the like, you know, so you didn't have to put his team on the back. But he did do it going, like it's not a Trent Dill for a situation. It's not one of those along for the ride, Peyton Manning 2015. The way he won the NFC Championship game cannot be forgotten because that was probably the Super Bowl. So it was that I'm just so happy for him. I'm very happy for Sam Dardold. Yeah, very happy for Seahawks fans, very happy for the current ownership group who will now get to put up for sale a Super Bowl champion team. Price of the bag just went up for the Seahawks. Big time. Big time. If you want to buy a trophy, Bill Gates, you're in Seattle. You know, I'm a trophy wife. Yeah. Maybe you get some other issues. You're used to scouting 19 year olds, Bill Gates. They get some good publicity for a change. Yeah, this is the only owner. This was dominant. Yeah. This was a dominant performance and there'll be plenty of time to have the conversation. I don't want to be the one to start it. But when the two teams made it to the Super Bowl after the championship games, we said there would be the discussion of if this was the worst team to ever play in the Super Bowl for the Patriots. I don't want to be the first to have the discussion. But other people will ask this question, is this the worst team to ever play in the Super Bowl in regards to the New England Patriots? Hank. Hello. Are you there? All right, Hank. What's up, guys? How are you doing? You good? I'm here. Did you hear everything we said? I've been listening. Yep. I've heard you guys. I think the answer's no PFT. But I don't have stats. So you can already ask me, what about stats? I don't have any. I'm going to go with no, though. Okay. Well, I would agree with you because the Patriots, they scored 13 points one other time in the Super Bowl, right? And they beat the Rams. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, the Patriots defense came to play. Like they same Donald, I will give credit to San Donald. I was one of those people that thought he's going to turn to a pumpkin. He had some throws early in the game that I could felt like the Patriots were right there. Kip balls, they had the DBs coming in. I felt like they were going to pick them off. The Gonzalez played at the end of the half. Thought that was going to be an interception. So it felt like I felt like it was coming all night. It never did. But he played well. He did play well. And yeah, walk us through the, let's just go through the whole day. Let's go through the vibes. What time you got to the stadium, the suite? What did you eat in the suite? What your thoughts are throughout the game? We want to hear it all. I'm not going to lie. The vibes are so high. The vibes, like at one point, I was like, I feel like, you know, we live a life of surrealness after surrealness after surrealness. It's just a constant stream of surreal moments after surreal moments. And I did have a point in the suite where I was like, this cannot be my life right now. I cannot believe I'm in the suite. It's perfect weather. We're two hours before the kick of the Super Bowl. I'm with my favorite people. This is unbelievable. Before that, though, even because obviously it's an hour, hour plus drive, we took a bus. So we took a party bus with 20 Patriots fans. So I went to Dave, one of the, I mean, just like so generous to bring all the Patriots fans from our soul to the game. So we're on a party bus with 20 people. Blasting music. Getting ready to go. Everyone's excited. Everyone's fired up. Everyone's high five on each other. Just really, really excited. Walk in, get to the suite. No hiccups either. No traffic. We park. We walk, you know, 15 minutes. Walk right into the stadium. No issues getting in. No delays. Nothing's just getting right in. And then we're just going to suite. And it's like, oh my god, like we're playing for the Super Bowl. And three hours. What is better than this? Yeah, I did. I did truly, I did truly have a moment where I was like, I, maybe tearing up a little bit and I was like, I just cannot believe this is my life. Like this is, this is, I could not, I actually cannot believe that it was real life. That's how amazing it was before the game. It seemed like a very cool environment. I do want to ask about talk about Dr. Hank because Dr. Hank did report pregame that Drake made was getting warmed up, slinging missiles. Yeah, you're welcome. Mission accomplished. Who? To who? Who you, who you guys been begging for Dr. Hank? Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I would have, I would have preferred a lab coat on your, your Twitter profile. But yeah, yeah, no, that was good. Dr. Hank showed up. Now, so you're at the suite. Will you next to Mark Davis? Yep, Mark Davis was in the suite next to us. We were, uh, I actually don't know where I can say this on there. But yes, Mark Davis was in the suite next to us. What? What? I don't, I, I, it's not for air. So I'm not going to say it. Who was? I don't understand why it's not for air. He didn't taxes anything throughout the game. I, one of those guys, I know, I guess I asked, I guess I mean the picture, Mark Davis, it seems like you want me to send a big ass like, yeah, send him to him. I knew obviously that he'd send you the picture of us with Mark Davis. I said, went up to him. So we'd love to have you on the show. We just kind of shook his head. So that was, you know, pretty much, pretty much like when we stalked him in Vegas. Yeah. We're over three now on Mark Davis and you're doing a good job. You're thinking of the podcast. I appreciate that. Yeah. And it was similar. It was a similar, uh, similar experience. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mark Davis was next to us. Gavin Newsom was next to us. Dante Turtled like a fucking. They say, wow, that was funny. Like I kept looking at my left and Gavin Newsom was just like right there. Yeah. Who had better hair? Jim Gray. Mark Davis or Jim Gray was in there. Yeah. And then David or Gavin Newsom. Mark Davis was like chrome white. Yeah. I have a question. Hank, if Mark Davis was there, were there any other members of the Raiders ownership that were in the box next to yours? There was not. We thought we thought that Brady was coming up. He did not. But Jim, so like we saw that we knew as the Raiders box before anyone even showed up. And then we saw Mark Davis show up and like, oh shit, Brady actually might show up. And then Jim Gray showed up and it's like Brady is, Brady is coming into this box, boxed a year. Yeah. Uh, but he did not. Yeah. What's the name of the podcast again? Let's go. Yeah, let's go. Let's go. And John Hane was next to you too, right? Uh, no, that was a different box. So like, uh, there was like, we were in one box on one floor and then a bunch of other guys were with shot, drafting sports book. They were in the drafting sports bookers like Biz Grinnell, Wonton Don Pat. They were John Ham and then Brady went into that box. So we were like, it was funny where we saw Jim Gray and Mark Davis. We got all like kind of excited and like nervous being like, oh my God, Brady's going to come up. And then he actually never did. And he was actually in the other box with the other Patriots fans, whatever. Okay. So game starts, um, what, what's going through your head to start the game? Because it was not, you had not, you had literally nothing to cheer for for actually, like pretty much nothing to cheer for. But at what point were you like, oh, this is a problem. This is a defense that maybe, you know, we're not going to be able to overcome. And also they do have an offense, Kenneth Walker running the ball down our deck. I wasn't overly concerned until the, probably midway to the third quarter. I do still, I mean, I, I don't know. What it looked like on the broadcast, I don't know if it was confirmed, but it looks very much to me. Like the first drive, the completionist Cooper Cup on the sidelines, like he balled with it and went out of bounds. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He did. I don't know why they didn't challenge that. And real time, that was like, that's a bobble. And then it was clearly was a bobble. If he didn't, if they reviewed it and it gets overturned, they didn't get a feel goal. Who knows? Who knows? Lost by like 20, yeah, you, you could have lost a little slower. The Patriots defense was keeping us in the game. They're bending, not breaking and saying, I just, I had like the, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, it tends to question the whole first half. I felt confident. I felt like Sam Donald has a duck in him. We're going to get some points. We're only down one score, two scores. Like it's a nine point game at halftime. We're very much in this. Like we just need one thing to break our ways is how I was going into halftime. I actually, we're talking halftime show of all time. Because, uh, okay. Yeah, we'll get to that second. So being down 12, nothing, I actually agree with you that it, if that's all your down, considering how bad that first half was, you're, you're not in a bad spot because you think, yes, second half, we could come out hot. They could come out flat. And then we got a game. We scored one touchdown and this is a ball game. I just have, I have one question, Hank, in that, so let's just say, let's go back in time and say Cooper Cup does bobble that, which I actually think we said in the cave. We're like, I don't think he caught that, but they got the line fast enough. Let's say that's challenged, overturned. How does the rest of the game go? I think we wouldn't. Yeah. Okay. I think that's it. So that, that was the play. Yeah. I think sliding doors, you know, my fact. So going into halftime where you can, so I know that you were saying like, their offense didn't look great. Their running game was pretty good, but, but Sam Donald, he had a couple shaky moments. Did you have any shaky moments with Drake May in that first half? Well, Campbell, more so. I feel like Drake May's shaky moments came in the second half. The play calling was shaky. I would say like they're just just calling screens like there was, it was a lot of screen calls. There was the one possession where they needed like three plays to get one yard. They couldn't do it. But I don't know. It was super bowl, super bowl nerves. I kind of was, was I was not, like I said, like, it's the super bowl. If you're within two scores, you're in it. I was not like as bad as it looked, I actually felt okay about it because it was like, that was the worst half you could possibly have were only down nine points. Right. So, so Hank, super bowl halftime review. I didn't think it was that bad. I mean, I don't think that mincey was terrible. What was your favorite song? Yeah. Can you favorite song PFT? What was your favorite part? Probably saying Francisco. I'm talking about the mincey halftime show. Yeah. I mean, you did a Bob Weir tribute and I said, I said when, when mincey went into Althea, I was, I actually said in the cave, I was like, it's good that Bob Weir's dead because he shouldn't be hearing this. Like that's how bad it was. So PFT shredded by. I don't know. I mean, Mincey said I was playing guitar. I, I didn't see me. I saw the organ duck. Yeah. Was playing guitar. So I love Bob Weir and thank God he didn't see that. So I appreciate that. But you thought bad bunny was bad. That half, I'm performing was so bad. I might have changed my stance on international football forever. Wow. Let's go. You know that Puerto Rico is part of the United States. But like what is like, why would I don't know? I don't want to, it's a slippery slope. I'm going down, but it was. Shall I let you go? I'm horrible. The only good part was was was Gaga. Gaga tried to save it. I don't know what the demographics of fans are in that game. I know big bad bunny is biggest artist in the world. But hey, it literally is what we've been warning you about. It was horrible. It was horrible. It's what I actually thought I don't know any bad bunny songs. I thought the energy was cool and the anytime you throw in some brass instruments, it's pretty cool. But yeah, I didn't, I didn't, it wasn't for me. But hey, we've been warning you about this. This was Roger Gidell trying to get an international audience. This is what we've been telling you. And you've been just poo poo. I was watching and I was like, this is who is this for? These like, yes, what is the point of this? You're this is America. This is America. This is a fucking Super Bowl. Give me someone else. And then I realized like, yeah, maybe, you know what? Maybe Big Cat and PFT were right. Yeah, we were. Thank you for saying that. We were. It takes a big man to admit that we're right. Is there anything else that we were right about? Yeah. Gaga Crush. She was really, really good. Love seeing Lady Gaga out there. I knew I actually knew Cardi B was on one of the songs and he played that song. She did not perform. I thought that might have turned the team around. Yeah. Um, Caeda was like my favorite only bad buddy. Something I really know and he didn't play that. So kind of pissed about that. Mm hmm. Um, the jets before like from the box, like it was a, it was a roof. So I couldn't see what type of planes are flying over. Yeah. Yeah. Before the game. Yeah. There was like an in house band that was like playing in a lot of commercials. That was really good. Mm hmm. Spectacular flyover before that. Would you like, would you like to know the kinds of jets that they were? Yeah. Okay. So we had two F 15 Eagles. I think they were the F 15 East Strike Eagles. Oh, they're Eagles? Strike Eagles. Yeah, go birds. And then we had two single hornets out there. Um, I believe they were the Super Hornets. How's that possible? They might have been the E 18 growler. It's the same plane, but I think they were Super Hornets. Then two F 35s, the lightnings on the outside. And then the one in the middle was the B one Lancer. And, and that's the one that flew by your apartment for the air and water show. Hang. Mm hmm. That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. I was, I was pissed I think I'd better look at that. Okay. As far as the food goes, we had like pizza. We had some really good like crab cake rolls. They're not crab cake, but like crab crab rolls, sliders. Okay. Some more to Delamacks, you would have liked that. A lot of popcorn. Nice. So yeah, that was, that was a spread. Nice. Some good, some good candy. Yeah. Okay, let's talk about the segment of it. And then I think I had to be at that. Yeah. Bad bunny. They had all these like people come out and bushes and set up it in the maze. And I thought they were going to be dancing, but they weren't. They didn't dance at all. So that was a little disappointing. So choreography was solid. Yeah. The stage performance, like the way they kind of like set up the stage was very like Broadway-esque. Yeah. Yeah. You're a big theater guy. Yeah. The no English, no English songs was tough. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you could barely speak English. And you, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're NFL. It's football. Yeah. This is this. It's America's, it's America's like, what are we doing? Yeah. Right. All right. So hey, let's do this. Why throw the game? The second half. Let's get your second half thoughts. And then I think we'll do question time after. Yeah. That sounds good. Like maybe a Henry Lockwood press conference that we can all go around just ask your questions before we do the second half Hank. So get, collect your thoughts here. 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And then like I said, what is Zach memes max get your questions ready? Well, I'll do questions for Hank afterwards. Hank, second half starts. You're feeling, hey, this is okay. You got a chance. And then I think you guys went three and out right away, right? Yeah. Yeah. So walk us through it. What's going on? We go three and out. Then I was like, all right, this is going to be the time. I'm going to have to take a walk start walking around the concourse. They did have TVs everywhere. So I was kind of like. I was watching the game the whole time. But I was trying to switch up the vibe. Switch up the vibe. Switch up the vibe. Like it was. We had a chance at the end of the second half or it's like, oh, we can score. Going to halftime score again. Obviously did not do that. And then the first drive of the second half, we just went three and out right away. And I was like, this is bad. They kind of started to set in like this. This is going south and it might not ever be going north. Yeah. I don't know what else you want. Second half. The third quarter was a disaster. The third quarter is where my dreams died. We went specifically. The real patient of like $100,000 coming my way. Well, that was happening. I was going to have to come on this fucking show and just deal with this. I forgot that was that was your my I thought there was PFT's bet. Well, yeah, the 40th he would have gotten 80,000. Yeah. I did put the bet in. Yeah, I was really hard for it. And I bummed out too. So yeah, I hear you Hank. I didn't want to do this show afterwards either being in a bad mood. When specifically would you say that your dreams died in the third question? Thank you. I don't know. Fumble. The fumble. Yeah, the fumble was bad. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Hang on, just let me look up that fumble because I'm having a hard time remembering. When it was. Yeah. Oh, it was at the very end of the third quarter, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah, that was third and sixth. Oh. 16 seconds left in the third quarter. Third and sixth. Drake May sack fumble. Seahawks recover. They initially said it was third and five. But I went back and I looked it up and they actually changed it after the fact. If the guy on the official score she, it does say third and sixth. Do you think like Drake May just subconsciously knew this feels more like a third and sixth? He knew, he knew, you know, I'm in trouble. That was the, they probably just saw the fumble and they're like, well, that, that was definitely a third and sixth. Yeah, that's what happened. Yeah. Will Campbell didn't really die for that one. No, he said he died for Drake May. That one was right there on the floor. I actually thought that the Patriots might have a comeback in him when, when Mac Collins caught that touchdown. down. I thought good things might start to happen. Did you start to think that Hank? Yeah. Yeah, because that did was that that took it to actually. Why didn't Mike Rebel go for two there? Do you guys saying that in the sweet? They went from it was 19 zero, 19 six. Obviously in that situation, being down 12 and 13 points is the exact same versus being down 11 points where you could potentially go for two on another touchdown and kick a field goal feels like you got to go for two there and they didn't go for two. Yeah, I was confused, but I'm, I, I, I, I, I know. I'm not understanding either. Okay. Um, and then what about the, the Drake May touchdown? So you weren't listening to broadcast? I don't think I've ever heard a broadcast or do what Chris Collins were did in that moment. He just, he kind of like gave up and said, I, I don't even know what that was. Oh, the interception. Yeah, the interception. He's just like, I don't know why he ever thought that would be a completion. It was right after he hit, uh, it was out of their own in zone. And I think he hit Stevenson. I think it was Stevenson on that little swing pass when he was getting the blitz firm is strong side from like his front side. And he made a real quick decision to go out. Stevenson hurtled over guy. I think on that play. And then Collins worth was like Drake May is really seeing the game right now. Things are speeding up for him. This is a good thing. And then it might have been the next pass attempt that he had was that, that deep pick. What, um, I don't know, it was, that might have been like a pass in a triple coverage. And then later, yeah, he was a deep pick. Yeah, that was like, it was just basically a fair cat. I don't mind taking a shot there. I don't, it was, it was not a great thrown ball. But on that drive, I imagine that you thought like this might happen. I've seen 28 to 3. It could happen again. Yeah. Uh, I don't know if it was on camera. I don't know if I was posted, but I'm pretty sure. Fidelberg, it was right after that first down like the, the Ramondri catcher talked about and hurtle right before the interception. Like it felt like it was as like he was dropping back to pass. Fidelberg was like, it's time to start believing. Yeah. Oh, no. And yeah. Oh, yeah. That it was, there was, there was belief. It was kind of just, you know, a little bit like just tension in the first half. Yeah. There was some real belief after the touchdown. It felt like they scored that touchdown drive in like two seconds. It was like, we can't score in this team. Oh, wait, yes, we can. We basically had like two plays and scored a touchdown. So it's like, all right, we, we, we cracked the code. We just got to get a stop. And then we can do this. And then yeah, because it was, you would stop them. You scored a touchdown made it in 19 seven, stopped them, got the ball back. And then it was like, oh, this could be something. And then it was not nothing. Right. Um, do you think that you, uh, that the Patriots have a super bowl defense? Yeah. I think you do too. I think Christian Gonzalez played incredibly. Like how, how cool were those plays that he made on defense? The diving stops. They're awesome. I didn't realize how close he was to a pick up the end of the first half. Like, he, he, there's a picture of like, he has, you know, balls on both his hands. Like, yeah. It was right there. He was, he made the diving, um, past deflection, uh, on Rashid Shaheed in the first quarter, I believe, which was an unreal play. And then he made that end of the first half where yeah, he, he wasn't even, it, it, like when you first saw it, you thought it was a bad throw by Sam Darnold, but it wasn't. It was just Christian Gonzalez made an incredible play to close on the ball. Um, so Hank, do you want, and then, and then when was it officially, officially over? Was it, it was just, was it that interception? The pick six. Oh, the, the, the the pick six. Yeah. Which wasn't, it looked, it could have been a fumble sick, but it was actually a pick six. Yeah. I think they changed that like after afterwards. Yeah. Um, so I can't imagine that the vibes were good, but who was, uh, who was like having the toughest time in that box? I don't know. I don't know that there's gas was, was, was, was as upset as I've ever seen them, that like, vocally, I guess, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I know that that's a tough question to answer. Are you, are you ready to go to question time? Do you want to go to question time? Do you want to say anything nice about the sea hawks before we go to question time? Uh, I mean, I'll give, I'll give respect to Sam Darrell that I, I, I, not that I disrespect them, but I definitely, I guess, did not give them enough like credit for how good he's gotten and he, he managed that game well. He played well. I thought he was going to, you know, turn the ball over and give us at least seven. I literally thought it was at least seven. Um, so credit Sam Darrell, sit, situate, you know, situate greatness strikes again. Hmm, hmm, situate my credit to that credit credit to situate. Uh, and yeah, that's it. Okay. All right, shoot. DFT. I, I, I, all, let's say this. I don't, PFT is like all times come back piece of shit. Okay. He's not smart enough to do this. I don't think and he'll probably take credit for it, but there's no way. This is the fucking hotel where the, the, the Patriots team party was going to be. I know. I'm aware. Oh, no way. Are you going to go? No. All right. So a couple of days ago, we were talking about what we're going to do after the game, after the game was over. And, uh, we thought, hey, wouldn't it be great if we got a hotel room booked at the nearby hotel to the stadium. So Hank didn't have to send traffic on the way back. He could just walk over to that hotel, record this podcast. And it is the team hotel that the Patriots are, we're going to be doing their after party at tonight. Did you know that one who was booked? I looked it up online. Okay. And I did find out that that was going to be where it was. Before or after was booked? I was in the process of bookies before I completed the, okay, text to the booking person. Let's get this one. I mean, that's an all time. That's a good guy move. Yeah. It's a really good guy. That's why I didn't think it was like a scumbag. Why is that scumbag? He had to be rooting for the Patriots. He had a $40,000 bet on him. Going into that. If, yeah, going into that, if you were like, there's no way he was playing both sides of this one. Hey, that, that's like the best move that I've ever made for you. Yeah. That's better than the bet. That would have been so all. Yeah. Wait, hey, you're thinking about right now. Yeah. You're not thinking about, do you not remember PFT all last week? He put $40,000 on the Patriots of my own money. He went to the festival. I did go to the fan fest with Hank. He gave a great speech. By the way, a great pump up speech. It was basically like a lot of calling response. We all we got, right? We all we need. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of that. So are you ready for question time, Hank? Yeah. All right. Let it, let it rip. Okay. Let's go. Let's, let's do, uh, let's, let's start it easy for you. Zach, why don't you start? What's up, Hank? Uh, so I do want to say sorry for your lost man. I probably had to be a tough day. Uh, quick question. Uh, no, what you know now, see how much shit sucks. Oh, good. Uh, no, what you know now, see now the game played out. Uh, if you, if you could make the call and go back, do you think Josh Dobbs give you a better chance of victory today? That's great. That's great question. I need to hear your puppet, Zach. I'm sorry. I love you, but you're, you're a puppet. Um, that's a good question. No, no, no, no, I don't want to act. Okay. parentheses, PFT, parentheses, piece of shit, come back. Fuck you. I mean, you are saying go. You've, you've, you've turned, you turned into a pumpkin, Hank, you're seeing I had nothing to do with that. Did someone give you that question? No, I was just gonna, yeah, I was just asking. I'm getting a question. Hank, you think I'm the boogeyman behind every curtain pulling all the strings. That was just Zach. I, now to be fair, Hannah, I did send a question to Max. Okay. But I did not send that question. Okay. I have another question. Oh, yeah. I'll do it to a two question. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we have unlimited question time. Like this, we don't have to depress the, no PR person is going to come and be like, hey, you got to, you got to wrap this up. So we have unlimited questions. That's good. We have fires. Many questions. We want, go ahead, Max. You want to go? Would you like me to do my original question or would you like to do that? That's the point. We have unlimited. It's, it's bottomless questions. Okay. Shockingly, you're going to think that this is the one that PFT sent to me, but it's, it's the one that I had on my own. Looking at the Patriots run this playoffs and looking at the commanders run last playoffs. Do you find any similarities between the two? No, Patriots made a suitable role. Okay. That's true. Max actually did say this in the Nimbling game. Not my question. Yeah. He said this and we actually were like, well, the, the commander's actually like, commanders beating the Lions in Detroit was probably the most impressive victory. If you put all the, the, the for sure, Wamp them in Detroit. It was a whopping. That was probably more. I think I would actually argue that the commanders looked better in the playoffs last year than the Patriots did this year. But I do not, Max, I don't agree. You're, you're, you're, that's a self-soc because you're like, they lost the Eagles. True. Oh, yeah. It's a big stuff. You put up a better fight than the Chiefs did. Yeah. Dre Point. Okay. You want to, I'll ask them, but let's, you know, you have, yeah, you got it. You got it. Hey, can I go back to Friday show? Um, when we were breaking down the game, I said 40% chance the Patriots can win close, 40% chance, the Seahawks win close, 20% chance to see ox blow them out. Now I, I, I was wrong. Because if I looking at how that went, I don't think it was a 40% chance the, the Patriots could win close. And I also think the Seahawks blowing them out should have been a bigger portion of my pie. You looked at me like I was fucking insane and made me give you a pity 1% to the Patriots blowing out the Seahawks. Do you, do you apologize for that? No. Okay. Okay. But do you see that I was, I was closer to, to, to, I was the closest to being right of anyone's prediction of the game. All right. Yeah. We're going to get a question that's not just a self-suck. So the next to self-suck in the Eagles, big heads, self-sucking themselves. Okay. T1. So what do you got? I got a question for you. Hank, would you like to apologize for me when I suggested that Drake May might have a hurt shoulder? Hmm. Good question. Yeah. You never know what guys are doing with this time of year. It's probably torn. You probably didn't like, doesn't even have a shoulder anymore. So yeah, I would like to apologize. I didn't realize the extent of, of his shoulder. I still don't. Yeah. I tell you. Yeah. Hey, other question. Do you think there's any point during the game that Josh McKinnon was like, how is this happening? I've been here so many times and I know how it works week. How is Mike McDonald doing this to me? No. Okay. But no, I'm just, that was just, yeah, we're doing question A. We're doing question A. Max, you have a second question? Yes. This one may not have made out of come from my own brain, but I will continue to ask it. He's getting, he's, he's, he's getting angry and angry. His face is getting angry and angry. This one may, may make you angry. This journalist, he's cedaring right now. This one may make you angry. I can tell, I can tell this is going to be a good question for Max. Now that you've lost in every time zone, do you have, do you have a least favorite time zone to lose the Superbowl in? Yeah, East Coast. That's question. Good answer. Do you have any questions? You're, hey, credit to Hank, I just want to, we're probably around half time of the question. Maybe only after the first quarter, if we're being honest, credit to Hank, he's sitting here, he's standing in the pocket. He's taking all these questions. He's facing the music. Yeah. Am I up? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So I think we could all agree. I'll never see my team in the Superbowl. So with that, so with that being said, what's it like to watch your team put up an absolute stanker in the Superbowl? I mean, they ran into a good defense. One of the greatest defenses of all time. It sucks. It sucks memes. It really does. You come all this way. You get to the game early. It's perfect weather. You're, you got dreams. You got visions of, you got visions of glory and parting with the team and going to Disney World. Yeah. Yeah. And man, all of a sudden, like, it feels like time is just gone. Like it was like, oh, fuck, it's half time. Oh, fuck, the third quarter is over. Like, this game's old. Like, it, it takes so long to get there. Like, all week, I just wanted to get you guys out of there. And all week, I was like, I don't care about these parties. Like just fast forward to Sunday, fast forward to Sunday. Sunday, we get to the game where we're like four hours early. Like we were in the stadium before anyone else. And it's like, it's going to take forever for this game to start. And then it started and it was over. Like, it, when you're, when your team, they'd sucks. To answer your question, it, it fucking sucks. Yeah. PFT. Hey, PFT here from part of my take. Did you see Matt Collins pregame fit? Yeah. Are you like me? And that when you saw it, you were like, Oh, no, this could either be the coolest thing to ever wear to Super Bowl or maybe the worst possible thing you can wear, depending on how the game goes. Yeah, he, we, we have some insane outfits. So I kind of like, it wasn't like, didn't come out of nowhere. It's Matt Collins. So I want a good game, which makes it, which makes it better. Back. Yeah, I didn't know. Like, I don't know if it was like a political statement or if he was just going for like, Hannibal Lecter or like what, I don't know what it was. I think it was just yeah, he was, he was, he was wearing a, a prisoner's outfit handcuffs chain together. He had the mask on like a straight jacket type look. I don't think that was political. I think that was Matt Collins. Just being Mac. Just Mac. Yeah. Yeah. Zach, did you have a question? Yeah, same question. So I'm sorry for gloss again. I was curious. Do you got, do you think there's a path for you guys to get back to Super Bowl next year? Is this going to take like maybe several years to get back? Yeah, I mean, the, there's a path. I do think there's a path. I love the team we have. I love the guys who got in that locker room. But you, you, you can't take it for granted. Unlike the, the dynasty runs, I felt like we were always going to be back in Super Bowl like going into this start the year. This one I did feel like I was kind of taking all in and just enjoying it because it's like you never know when you're going to be back. You might be like, you know, the commanders or the, the bears or the jets, you might never make it. Zach, like you might just never make it. So there is a path every team when they start the year. It doesn't matter what your schedule is. It doesn't matter who you're playing, how bad the thing you're going to be. Any team can make the Super Bowl in the, when the season starts. So there's a path. I'm excited for the future. But yeah, I don't, I'm not penciling it in yet. What would you say Hank, to the people who are like, see the schedule? We said the whole year, the schedule doesn't matter. It's about playoff with them. They've won three times in the playoffs. So against like great defenses, I don't really, I don't, I never have it. I never will pay any mind to this schedule talk. But next year we'll have a new schedule and then we'll see what people say then. Is it, is it concerning to you that that Drake May in his second year makes to the Super Bowl loses and historically when that happens, the, the guy never goes back. No. Quarterbacks, if they make it to the Super Bowl in their second season. Yeah, we, we, yeah, die answer your question. I don't think that they've ever made it back, right? Yeah. I have one. Yeah. Jalen hurts, but he's not, he's not a, he's running back. Yeah. Got it. And he also got cropped out by Steve Young. Yeah, he did. It was the funniest thing ever. Steve Young, I don't know if you saw that. Hey, you were concerned with the Super Bowl. Rightfully so they had a, a bunch of Super Bowl MVP's and there was a picture of all of them standing before the game like in the balls of the, you know, it was either locker room or whatever. And Steve Young posted it and he just cropped Jalen hurts out of the picture. That's awesome. Okay. Yeah, man. First, first of all, I'm, I'm very impressed with how you're dealing with this. I know I've had a temperature. Oh, it's a man. He is not an absolute temperate. Not taking the fire at max. Yeah, I would have started screaming. So I'm, I'm very impressed with how you're doing, how you're dealing with this. All the hate, hate doesn't talk when it's, it's awesome. Yeah, with that being said, are you hoping for Drake May to have a shoulder injury because that would explain how bad that he looked? Yes. Okay. Good answer. Good answer. Good answer. Are you worried at all about how he looked in the playoffs in totality when they played, I mean, he played against really good defenses. So that's part of it and he's 23. Yeah, I liked that. I was enjoying and like running with the weather narrative. Obviously, that wasn't the case today. He's 23. Second youngest quarterback that ever made the Super Bowl. He's got time. We got, we got our guy. We got our coach. Defense is great. We got to build up the offensive line, but I'm not overly worried about it. No. I think, again, it's like if he was, you know, 29, 30 and, and that was his first playoffs appearance, but it's like, by the time he's 27, that's, you know, hopefully a blip on the radar and he's three or four playoff appearances in by that. Yeah. Do you think he might have fun ballitis? No. I feel like you guys aren't giving enough credit to the oxygen. Oh, I'm, I have to write it as a ball no, or I'm not putting it on Drake May. I'm giving credit to the CXT. I gave a lot of, yeah. You guys are just trying to discredit Rick May. We'll take a lot. I gave a lot of credit to CXT. Vince both before and after the game. Lot of credit. CXT. Vince was great, but Drake, it doesn't change the fact Drake May did have the most fumbles in the history of the playoffs. That's why I was asking about fun ballitis. Okay. Got it. Zach, do you have another question? I think I'm just curious. Are you, are you kind of thinking tomorrow already? Is today over? Is it a fresh start tomorrow? Are you going to still be thinking about those laws in the next coming days? Or is it short-term memory? It's over. It's done with on the next season. Good question. Great question. Excellent question. That's a horrible one. That was nice. How long is it going to stick with you? A while because of fucking this piece of shit in the red. What? PFC? What? I can't get away from it. I can't move on. It's like it's not it's going to stick with me. And I will not like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Probably until we win the Super Bowl. Yeah, I mean, I think that's fair. But until then you're going to be so fucking annoying. I mean, I think you're getting the time. I mean, the PFC lost the $40,000. I did lose $40,000 today. Yeah. It's a lot of money. That's a car. I could get a sick car with $40,000. I could get a new El Camino with that. Like a little bit of sympathy for your friend. Yeah, please. And Hank, you do think that I'm behind everything. You think that I'm pulling all the strings left and right. I think you need to take some time off. Go play some golf. Put your head down. It's leftwood season. Yeah, I mean, it unfortunately is, but yeah, the answer is asked question. I will be thinking about it for a while. I don't think I'm ever getting back to the hotel. Yeah, I'm not the fucking I'm gonna walk on the lobby. See the signs for like Patriots as a party, which will not be happening. Have you told yourself, have you told yourself man in the arena? It's not the credit coup counts. Me. It's you suffering the slings, the arrows of defeat. You're actually the man. Mm-hmm. Thanks. Memes, do you have any other questions? Uh, tell me ahead. No. Hmm. Salto's lost say to max. Do you have any other questions? Good question. I had one last question, but do you have any of those? No, I have no, I have no more questions. I'll do the rowback question. RHO BACK.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q Zips, polo's hoodies, joggers shorts, rowback.com promo code take. Hey, so Hank, you're a little blurry coming in and out. Are you, are you wet right now? Are you gonna get wet? Yeah. Yeah. I'm wearing a PFT to kind of lead the charge and then I'll go. I'll get wet. I'll get wet. I'll get wet. It's fucked up. Okay. Do you want, do you want, you guys both want to get wet? Yeah. I'll go get wet. Okay. All right. To both get wet. Let's set them both get wet. All right. So we have, uh, Hank, we have everything set up in the shower. Oh, we, we, what do we have? Hank's going to get in his shower. Thanks going in his. Okay. It's perfect. PFT is going to go. Yeah. PFT you go. Okay. This is great. So we, we have it every set up. Hank, I, I do want to give you a ton of credit, especially considering the fact that like you said, you mentioned it multiple times. You got there really early. So that, that's to make it hurt more with how early you got there. What, what do you mean? I don't know. You just kept on saying how you got there early. I mean, we were, what? Fuck you. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I truly am impressed with the way that you doubt that you do. You're doing a great job with this today. I did, I did think a couple times about the scoff you gave me when I said there's a 20% chance of see off the blow them out. You're just like, how could you think that? But that's neither here nor there. Yeah. We hold this. Would you consider that a blowout, Hank? Hank? Was that a blowout? He might not be. Yeah. Yeah. He said that was a blowout. Yeah, those. Yeah. That's a blowout. Yeah. What's up, Grinnelli? Here's Grinnelli. To the spin checklist. All right. Here he goes. Hank's going in the shower. Oh man. Saw he saw us. Oh, he's getting. Do you have a change of clothes, Hank? Nope. Oh, no. He's got to get all the way back to the square. Uh, Silver Cisco. He's in Santa Clara. Oh, no. He's sitting in the, oh, this is some good stuff. He's sitting in the bathtub. He's in the shower. This is Hank. I am very impressed with how you're taking commercial. Is that any good commercials? Uh, let's see the, oh, the karaoke one. Yeah, we don't want to do free ads. There was a commercial. I don't even know who it was. Yeah. But it was free ads. No free ads, but it was, uh, it was a horse with a ball with a bald eagle on it. It was pretty cool. Free ads. Yeah. Sports are a certain party. Yeah. How was that? It's good. It was awesome. Okay. Um, it was pretty tired though. I wanted to take a nap all weekend. Oh, yeah. You can nap now. Yeah. That, that is nice. Yeah. That's huge. The fact that you can go back to napping because you want to nap a lot. Dude, you're getting really, really wet. Yeah. You did not, you didn't know what to do with this for this long. Yeah. Why did you? Why? PFT's, PFT's back. PFT's considerably less wet than Hank. Let me see. PFT. Just lay down in the bathtub for a solid like two minutes. Uh, I did soak my shirt and my head. I'm wet. Hank, this sucks. I can't believe I can't believe we lost my two boys doing soggy when I put this bed in never in a million years. I think you'll get the next point. Yes. You can get out of the Super Bowl. No, he has to be good. Leave the zoom. No. And now we're, we got back. We got more Super Bowls than we know you have to stay in the state regardless. You have to stay. No, no, no. I'm going to fight. All right. We're hanging. You cannot leave. Hey, you can be these. Hey, stop. Stop. Leave. Hank. Stop for a second. What did you just say about? Did you actually move your flight? Yeah. PFT moved his flight to Monday, so I didn't too. Okay. Love you, Hank. Hey, you inspired me. PFT. You inspired me. I'm glad I could. I thought we're going to work on Monday and Tuesday, but I'm down. I like where your head's at. Yeah. All right. I'm glad I could help, Hank. Yeah. Thank you. Enjoy Orlando. I hope you run in some of the Seahawks today. That'd be cool. Sit you on the mic. Hank, are we going to see you on Tuesday for real? We're going to see it. You didn't move anything. Oh, yeah. Two. No, you're going to be here. I got to see done. No, you're going to be here. Come on. We'll see. Yeah, you're going to be in studio. You've done an incredible job here, Hank. You've, you've, you've killed all the narratives of Hank, Hank doesn't talk when he loses and Hank is a sore loser. You've done a good job tonight. Awesome. 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Credit to Hank. Good performance by him. Also massive credit to Hank. Mass. That's got to be told. I will never know the sting of losing a Super Bowl and then showing up to do a podcast and that is just kind of listen to us be assholes for 30 minutes. Not stop. It was great. I mean, we did listen to him be assholes in assholes to us for a long time this season. So it wasn't it wasn't totally unwarranted. And he did kind of poo poo at some of the points we brought up leading up to the Super Bowl. He did. And some of those points, which I want to talk about now Mike McDonald is a defensive wizard and he has so he is the first non is he's the first defensive coach ever to win the Super Bowl while calling the defensive plays head coach to while calling the defensive plays. He's the first defensive minded head coach to win a Super Bowl since Bill Bala check in 2018. He's the first non-Bala check defensive minded head coach to win since the last time the Seahawks won with Pete Carroll. He is everywhere he's gone. He's been incredible. I mean, think about it. He was at Michigan. I know the counter stallion thing happened. And yes, there probably was some nefarious stuff going on. But everyone was convinced that the Michigan defense had all of the plays because they were so good and so sound. Turns out Mike McDonald is that good of a coach. He had that Ravens defense a couple years ago where they had the one seed and that was all the offensive fault. Like that team was so good defensively. He is for a league that is going in one direction in terms of offensive head coaches. He is completely swung it back and being like, I can scheme up a game. I can have a game plan ready to go. The way that they had free rushers coming at all times against Drake may just a perfect perfect game plan. Yeah, they had they had every team in hell this year except for the Rams and he was clearly a difference maker for that defense ever since he got there. Like I've heard other players talk about I'm not smart enough to understand exactly how he does it or what he does. But the way that he plays his zone coverage, but it's like it's different to the point where quarterbacks get confused by it, even if they watch tape on it. Because it's always adjusting there. They're calling him the Sean McVey of defense, which is really lazy way to say that he's young and awesome. And he's really smart and awesome. But that's a great compliment to him. And yeah, all the credits to him for putting this together. I actually think that it didn't matter what team from the AFC you ended up having the Super Bowl. If it was the Broncos, I mean, can you imagine Stiddy going up against this defense? Yeah, the only way that I had maybe a more compelling Super Bowl is if it was Josh Allen just because Josh Allen would have I think he's been through some wars where I still think the Seattle one. I think so too. But it would have been Josh Allen would have has seen enough stuff where he might have been able to keep it at least a little more competitive. But yeah, they were I think they would have flustered anyone. Yo, absolutely. Look what they did. Look what they did to the 49ers who were I know the 49ers were paying doubt. But Brock Purti was playing great football and week 18 completely shut him down. Then in the playoffs completely shut him down. Again, through three quarters of the Super Bowl, the opposing team, the Patriots had five first downs. It was every there was two the two times in the first half that the Patriots got over the 50 yard line. They ended up on the other side of the 50 yard line when they had a punt. That's how good it like it was it was just an absolute beat down by that Seattle defense and Mike McDonald and what he was able to do. And they so the CX held the Patriots to negative 27 EPA in the Super Bowl. The fewest allowed by any defense in a championship game or Super in the last 10 seasons. They had six Sacks, two interceptions, a fumble recovery, and a touchdown. And also John Schneider, he deserves all the credit in the world for what he's done in terms of rebuilding this team. So quickly, the Russell Wilson thing happens a few years ago where even at the time, I mean, we know what happened with Russ in Denver. We know what happened in Pittsburgh and New York. He did, by the way, Russell Wilson did come out today and say he wants to play another year. I don't know who wants him to play another year, but he wants to play another year. I want him to play another year. So, but that was a decision that, you know, and it was it was both sides. Russell Wilson wanted a fresh start, but that's your franchise quarterback, your Super Bowl winning quarterback. And to then, you know, turn turn the whole thing around. The Geno Smith thing went okay, not great. To then say, Hey, let's go get Sam Darnold, the draft, the draft that he had, Devin Witherspoon had a, what, three past defense, a sack. He was all over the field. He was their first round draft pick in 2023. Derek Hall from the from the second round in that year had two sacks. Byron Murphy had two sacks. He was their first round pick two years ago. Just draft pick after draft pick after draft pick. He is hit and made this team just an absolute monster of a roster top to bottom. You can see how good the roster is because when they went through their dark period, when they had, if you can call it a dark period, Geno Smith, Pete Carillaz, the coach. Yeah, they were still pretty competitive. Yeah, they weren't team those rolling over and then the Raiders run back Geno Smith and Pete Carill, which were not acknowledging. And we see how that turned out. Yeah. So like the roster is good. He's an incredible talent evaluator. And the pieces he added on defense to not just through the draft free agency big winner from today. Yeah, I know he didn't get a sack. Yeah, but DeMarcus Lawrence. Before the season, he said, I know for sure I'm not going to win a Super Bowl there in Dallas and explaining why he was going to the to the Seahawks. And then Micah Parsons tweeted out, this is some clown shit. And then DeMarcus Lawrence said, call me a clown won't change that what I said is the truth. Maybe you should spend more time winning and less time tweeting. Yeah. Pretty pretty prescient by DeMarcus Lawrence. Yeah, he deserves a victory lap of all victory laps. Yeah, and like just go down and he deserves that's great pick up. Even worry who was a second round pick last year was just an absolute game changer in terms of how Mike McDonald used him all around the field. It's just up and down their roster. His name Jason didn't even Jason was probably can cost like he he probably got can cost that first half. He was kind of a non factor. And that is partially because Christian Gonzalez played his absolute balls off. But think about that when you're going into this Super Bowl, if we were sitting here on on on Friday's show and I said, we said to Hank, hey, Jason's going to have four catches for 27 yards. You think the Patriots won the game. Yes, so credit to the Patriots defense. They did they took away their best player. Yeah, and they said, we're not going to let JSN beat us and he didn't beat him. Uh, this also John Schneider, very, very smart guy. This playoff stretch might have screwed up what was maybe his master plan that he was cooking up. Mm hmm. Kenneth Walker, Katz out of the bag. Yeah. Katz out of the bag. Kenneth Walker is going to get paid. Super Bowl MVP Kenneth Walker is going to get paid like a motherfucker. Yeah. And when he was split and carries with Charbonne, it was like, I don't know if the competitive, if if other teams are going to really pony up for him because he's not a bell cow back. Guess what? He's a pretty fucking good bell cow back. And he was great in this game. He was basically the offense. That's where it started, you know, getting going. He broke how many how many it felt like he had three or four pretty explosive runs. I know we had a 30 yard run. Clint Kubiak, who's now the Raiders head coach. We all knew that was going to happen, but it was already it was just announced. Did a great job of being like, Hey, you know where the only place like this Patriots defense is really good. Let's get some stretch runs, some runs to the outside where Kenneth Walker can get going. And that's where they had success. And he without Kenneth Walker, yeah, I mean, he he was the reason why this game started to get farther and further away from the Patriots because it was that defensive stalemate, especially in the first half. And I know people say that was a boring Super Bowl. I get it partially. I'm skewed because I bet on the Seahawks, but I do think that first half was a defensive masterclass on both sides. Yeah, where you just watching that game. It wasn't as much. Oh, you drink made struggle, but like some of the some of the free blitzers that McDonald's able to get, you know, open there, the Christian Gonzalez plays it. There were some really incredible defensive plays that were happening. It was awesome defense. I think you were a fan of defense. That was actually very, very fun to watch in that first half. I do think, yeah, Kenneth Walker was a big difference maker. The Seahawks offensive line played really well for the most part, too. I think in the running game, specifically like in the passing game, Sam Donald made some great plays when he was under pressure moving around in the pocket. Actually, one where he had JSN on a wide open, like 75, 80 yard touchdown that he overthrew. But but the offensive line did really good in the running game around the edges. They just if they're running that zone play that stretch, they just seal you off good and they give Kenneth Walker a lot of room for a cup pack. Also massive credit to Jake Bobo and his blocking at the wide receiver position. Open up some massive holes. So for K9 some other some other notes from the Seahawks run and and how awesome of a team they were. We talked about it with the Rams game, the NFC championship game and the Muff kick. We talked about it with, you know, LaFlaur and Shanahan, these these teams that their special teams that kind of throw them to the side and say we'll figure out otherwise the Rashid Shaheed return to start the 49ers game in the visual round. The Seahawks spend the most out of anyone in the NFL on special teams, $9.3 million. Jason Myers just finished in an NFL season scoring the most points anyone's ever scored in an NFL season. He was money tonight. Special teams matters. This Seahawks organization says, Hey, here's where we can win the game on the margins. And like even something as simple as their onside kick recovery was as easy as possible. Maybe not a great onside kick, but they did everything. They punted well tonight. There's multiple times. They punted the ball inside the five yard line. Jason Myers kicked five, five field goals, six. I think there's five. Five field goals. Rashid Shaheed, no issue fielding ponds like they did. They they the Seahawks just went through the playoffs. So this is also on offense, but this is special teams as well. They went through the entire playoff run without a turnover. Yeah, they did not turn the ball over. That's how you win. They were fundamentally so sound and so buttoned up in all aspects of the game and all three phases of the game where it didn't and we this was a theme we talked about when when people were saying, oh, Sam Donaldson goes, I said it many times. I threw the stat out there many times. He was five in one in games where he had multiple turnovers. This was a full true team in that respect that it wasn't one piece falters. Everything falls apart. They were all just so good top to bottom. Yeah. So Mars is five for five. And then Michael Dixon, he punted seven times three of them inside the 20. I think two of them inside the five. Yeah, just absolutely. That's Jay Harbaugh too. Special teams. Yeah. The coordinator is a harbaugh. It was, but that's it. It really is when you don't think about special teams until you really get to the playoffs. And then you start to realize that a lot of these these games are one in loss in the smallest margins. This game was not one of those cases because the sea ox versus that much better. But the reason you could say maybe why they're there is because of that NFC championship game when you have that month kick by the Rams. They don't care about special teams and the sea hawks do. They were just dominant. And the offensive line for the Patriot. That's a question. They got a question mark. Yeah. I don't know. I think you got to move Will Campbell inside because it looked like Will Campbell. You know, I know he got hurt during the season. But when he goes up against guys and I know the arm length thing, but and we all make jokes about it. But it's just a fact that when you're going up against it, it's like a boxer when you're going up with a guy who has multiple inches on arm length, he's going to be able to get, you know, around you easier. He gave up. He can hit you before you hit him. He gave up 14 pressures tonight. That's the most pressures allowed by any player in a game, this entire season in any game, not just the playoffs. It includes the playoffs, includes the regular season 14 quarterback pressures. At least one of those was because his guy, his guard chipped his man out to the outside and kind of sent him out to Sam Donald. But yeah, I feel like Sam Donald's guy be having the best time ever tonight. Best time. Everyone counted him out. What a great comeback store he is now that there's going to be like sliding doors, ramifications from Sam Donald winning the Super Bowl, which is one, you're going to see teams go out and look for guys that have been kind of cast off that were set to have talent. But two, you're probably going to see some teams stick with a quarterback, maybe a season or two longer than then maybe they should. Because they're like, what if he just becomes Sam Donald and what if he gets really good? Yeah. What if it was our problem to begin with and we change everything up? And then he's the guy. Listen, I might retire on my 2021 take of I'm not, I'm not stopping believing in Sam Donald when you said you weren't going to stop believing in that one. Yeah, I'm there. You play it. This is this actually is like one of those takes that I'll tell I'll just walk around and just like, Hey, you know what? We we did get one right one time. I think it's right as it was about Baker. I think I disagreed with you about Sam Donald. Well, I kind of said, I think this is so crazy. But I'm going to say anyway, December 7, 2022 is when this when this happened on our show. Well, with Baker, I actually, I'm not done believing in Baker may feel yet. This might be weird. He's not he sucked on the Panthers, but I'll do one worse. I like Baker. I'll do one worse. I'm not done believing in Sam Donald yet. Yeah. All right. I mean, stupid. I know. Yeah, that is worse. I know that's way worse. But yeah, I know I and again, I know people will say, well, the defense was out of this world and it was. Yeah, if you have a great team, go back to that MC championship game where they are not in the Super Bowl. If he doesn't play a perfect game of football and make those big time throws time and time again. So I don't see it as Sam Donald got carried to a Super Bowl. He was part of a incredible team overall and they all played their part in winning a dominant Super Bowl and winning a dominant like they were dominant from the beginning of the season all the way through. Yeah, where is deserving as a Super Bowl championship you could possibly get there were the best team best team in football all year. And it was right in front of our eyes that I think what would put us off the scent was that it like think about if we go back in time in that October game when the Seahawks lost by two in a game the Sam Donald through four interceptions. I think that game got everyone a little off the scent. We're like, huh, like, yeah, I guess they can't do it. I know it happened to me. And then it took a little time to come around. If they win that game, this would have been one of those teams where you're like, I think people would have been since October saying this team cannot be stopped and they're all all time great. Well, Sam Donald was always the knock against him was like he's still going to have that gunslinger in him where he's going to go out and he's going to give you the bad games in the playoffs. You did not get gunslinger sent you got you got very good well put together mistake free Sam Donald. Even Hank. Yeah, my point that the last people to come around to Sam Donald and rightfully so because of what they did to him the Patriots fans and Hank said I was wrong about Sam Donald. Well, the the sea hawks defense was by the way the the Patriots when I tried to tell Hank going into the playoffs or into the Super Bowl, you've beaten some of the best defenses in football. That's real. They did beat good defenses. Yeah. The difference with the sea hawks is they're the best defense. And also their offense is better than all the other good defenses at the Patriots beat in the playoffs. And their offense was a lot better. Yeah, than that. I do want to just do a blind resume for you big cat. Okay. Okay, which is worse losing to the Seattle sea hawks 29 to 13 or losing to the Seattle sea hawks 27 to 18. I would say the 29 13. That's worse. I would agree because it's more points. Yeah, yeah. The 27 to 18 game that was the Indianapolis Colts and Philip Rivers. Oh, it gets the sea hawks. That game was actually it was kind of close at the end. You remember that one? Yeah, like obviously Philip Rivers couldn't throw the ball at all. And when he had to at the end of the game ended up turning it over. That was ugly. But that game felt way more competitive. That was the first Philip Rivers game back. Yeah, that was it was fun. That was in Seattle in Seattle. Yeah, so I mean, the Patriots offense was clearly limited for a few reasons. I'd say like 50% on the line. And then 50% the quarterback both having to deal with that defense that they were going up against. But yeah, it was it was an ass kicking. It was a good old fashioned ass kicking. And now the Patriots they are the all-time most losing is Super Bowl franchise and NFL history. They have crown them. What's their full record now? Six and six? I believe they're six and six, five hundred. Okay. And the Super Bowl. The LeBron of Football teams. Here's a stat that means nothing, but it's just funny to say bad bunny traveled 124 in a half yards with the football during his halftime show. The Patriots rushed for 79 total yards in the actual game. Yeah, bad bunny. Bad bone. I didn't think I mean Hank was there. So yeah, he also was in a bad mood. I would I would rank bad bunnies. My honest take because it's become way too political. And it's very stupid that you have to basically whoever you voted for you then have to decide how the Super Bowl halftime act was. Yeah, again, Super Bowl halftime show is not for guys like us who are going to watch the Super Bowl no matter what and love football. It's for the general audience that is tuning in to maybe their first football game of the year and trying to grow like it's just not for us. So I never seen the Super Bowl halftime show and being like, God damn it. Why didn't they cater to me? Because guess what? Roger Gidell's got me by the fucking balls. I mean, he'll put football on an Australia two in the morning and I'll tune into it. The Super Bowl halftime show has almost become more for people to complain about the Super Bowl. I wouldn't be surprised if Roger Gidell was like, they're going to hate this one. Yeah, I can't wait to see. But if you're if you are listening to this show, you probably align very closely to us and the fact that you're going to watch football no matter where it's shown, where it's being played, who's playing, whatever it may be. So yeah, it's not for us. But my honest review of Bad Bunny is simply didn't understand it, but some of the trumpets and shit were cool. There was the theatrics was kind of well designed. Like some of the music, I was like, oh, you know what? I kind of like this music because you put in trumpets and it had it had energy. Dead ass is too. I do like the energy. There was a good amount of asses this halftime show. More assed per capita than any other halftime show ever seen. And the running trees with people and it was very funny. Yeah, we got we had a movie The Trees Max is still bewildered by how the trees moved. It's crazy. They're people. Yeah, the people people, people wearing costumes. I wasn't expecting to see people. Not to. I saw one person say this is quies. What was the name of his company? Asperation. Asperer. Asperer. He's like live looking quies tree company. I don't want to get political big cap, but I will for a second. Okay. If they had given the Super Bowl MVP to Jason Myers, I was going to need a kid rocks, all American Super Bowl MVP award to be given out to the real MVP of the game. Yeah. That to me would have done it. I would have said no. If he had, I think you could give it to him if they had never scored a touchdown. And he maybe had two or more, two more, he had eight field goals. If he had six seven or eight, if he had six, so he had five, the longest was 41. Yeah, it wasn't like if he had if he had a nuke from like 62 yards out. Yeah. As one of his six field goals, then I would if the last one that he hit in a closer game, maybe, then I would say, okay, if nobody's going to score, I guess he kind of had to give it to a defensive player first, too, because the how good the sea, they should just give it to the Seahawks defense overall. But Kenneth Walker was very deserving. Kenneth Walker was when when their offense looked like it couldn't get going. And JSM was, you know, banged up. Kenneth Walker and AJ Barner also, we didn't mention him, but he had a hell of a game had to had that touchdown that broke it open. He was he had a couple big first downs early in the game. He was he was very, very important. Yeah, Cooper Cup. Cooper Cup had had a very solid game, too. He was also one of the other guy cast aside, thrown out in the elevator fight about him. He had a very good game today. I think lost in Hank blaming me for everything in his life is the fact that I was such a good friend to him on Friday. Such a good friend. We were hanging out all day. I went to a stupid little fan fast and met all the Patriot super fans and just stood there and let him, you know, rubbed in my face. Like I deserve to have, you know, I deserved a lot of stuff to be rubbed in my face. I was, I did Hank a favor. I was like trying to convince him that the whole Tom Brady thing about how Tom was saying, I don't have a dog in the fight. And all the news, I was like, you know, I think Hank, I think I think this is just a super bowl commercial. I think Tom's getting the news and then you're going to see him dressed up like an all-pats gear in a commercial on Sunday and Hank's face lit up. He's like, oh my god, it is Super Bowl hoax commercial season. I was like, I can't do think I gave him some good copium to do with I was being a really good friend to him. So I'm sad that he's still upset. Yeah. How was he get to this? So you guys went out Friday night? Yeah, we went to first went to the fan fest and Hank gave the speech to the crowd and I think he was just looking to say a couple words and get off the safe, but they kept interviewing him. And one of the questions was so funny from the guy, I forget the dude's name that was like the MC, the first of all, like the district councilman from that part of San Francisco came out. And he was like, I just want to let you know when I found that Super Bowl was coming here and that the Patriots were going to be in a couple of weeks ago. I made sure that my district was going to host the fan festival and we are the official district of the New England Patriots and everybody clapped. And then this councilman stood up, took off his shirt and underneath it, he was wearing the, I'm gay for May shirt. Oh, I love it. It was love it. It was very funny. And so then there were interviewing Hank and fights. And they did, Hank and fights did a good job, but the guy that was doing the interview was like, you know, you, you suffer like all the haters, you deal with everybody in the media. How, what's it like just dealing with that? You like working for a company like bar stool sports and you're just getting all the hate in the world. And I was just up there shaking my head like, oh my god, did they just ask you how hard it is to work at bar stool sports when the New England Patriots are in the middle of the Super Bowl. And they're going to the game in a box. Shout out to everybody. It was very, very generous to Dave to bring everybody into the box. Yeah. But yeah, we had a, we had a fun night. We went out to the Draft King's party. Saw 50 cent per form live ran into a few people there. Just flooded with all the, all the former Patriots players and Jerry Thornton, Big Celebrity got to hang out with him in the VIP too. That's awesome. So yeah, it was a good time. I tapped out at about 1230 because I'm old. Yeah, so I had a similar night on Thursday night. I went to, I went to our good friend George Kiddell's party, the tight-end university party was awesome. You know, it was surprisingly very cool guy that I talked to for a decent amount. Mac Jones, like cool guy. And yeah, I did ask him some like stupid questions like, Hey, dude, remember when you saw the dead body and how many bananas did you eat that game? He, he will come on the show. Also saw Colson Loveland and said, I love you to him about 17 times in a minute and a half, but did secure the digits, which was a little bit weird to be like, Hey man, let's, let's trade numbers. But I had to do it. So our, our, our good friend Sam Schwartz in an Andrew Luck were out and then went to, I got to give a shout out to final final awesome bar in San Francisco. And the last thing I also tapped out around midnight, the last thing that happened as I was walking out of the bar on midnight Thursday night at final final was I heard my good friend Ryan Resillow say, I'm going to tie one on tonight. And then I woke up to an awesome set of tits that he posted on Instagram. It's pretty good. So highlight of my weekend might have been getting ready to go out to dinner on Friday night. And I'm in the back of this SUV with John Gruden. Who is like, if you have John Gruden on your like dream for some dinner guest, you're right. Yeah, he's that funny at dinner. He's just a great, great dude. We're in the back of the SUV and Resillow gets in. And the first thing John Gruden says is, hey, we're still talking to the town with those two titties you put up on your Instagram stories today. And Resillow just like looked at him goes, thanks coach. Yeah, it was perfect. It was, we're having Resillow on Wednesday to do our MBA preview. So I'm, well, maybe get, maybe get some more detail to it. But I did, I was with him that night. I wish, I wish he had told me that there was titties. Yeah, there were some titties. Yeah, there were some really nice titties. Zach, we never, you just never, yeah, you were just a zero. Yeah, it's better. Yeah, definitely better. I like that hat. Thank you, big hat. What percent better? I feel like 100% good. Oh, 100% yeah, like I feel I feel really good. Yeah. All right, fuck you. I got like, like a little congestion, but that clear to pretty quick. Zach, can we do a little role play here real quick? Yeah. Okay. All right. Let's pretend it's five weeks for now, six weeks for now. The start of March madness opening weekend of March madness. Wake up Thursday morning. You're coughing. Coughing nonstop. Oh my god. Yeah, you're method. Yeah, good job. Good job. That was a bad cough. It was like a tickle. That's not sound like a hundred percent. It was just like flim. I just have, I, I've been needed to get that out, but I didn't want to cough over with the while the mics were on. I was trying to like, you know, when you try to suppress it. Yeah, it's a, it's a productive cough, too. You're getting rid of stuff. Yeah, I was pushing it, yeah, I was pushing it down. I shouldn't have been, I didn't want to make any noise. Okay, so let's pretend that you're coughing a lot. And then it's also a really big day. We're going to be streaming all day, all the college basketball games. What do you do? I got to just be hand up. I'm sick. I don't want to infect anyone. I got to let you guys know as soon as I know. Yeah, yeah, and, and you're not going to get in trouble for that. No, not at all. We're going to be, we're going to be glad that you told us the right thing to do is feel something, say something. Yes, yep. Yes, feel something. Say good job, Zach, because that was our biggest issue. Was not that you were sick. It's that you didn't tell us you were sick for a day and a half. I wasn't feeling the best at first. When I reached sick mode, I probably did alert sick mode a little late. I definitely did. You also, you didn't have anything to do the day that you're around us. Yeah. That made one way you sat when we were doing the dream on interview, which wasn't a show day, you were just sitting as sick as sick could be in a hotel room with us. Sometimes you got to pick your battles, and that's one that you could easily be like, hey, I know I'm not really going to say anything during this interview. I'm not feeling great. Let me sit this one out. Definitely should about out quicker. Is that anybody close to you like your family? Hear about the 105 degree fever? And if so, what did they say? Yeah, my mom was like, you know, it's like you really should go to the doctor when you're in 105. You probably should go get that checked out. I was updating about the fever in the family group text. I wasn't 100% forthcoming with like, severity wise, because you don't want to worry about them. I'm at a state, you know, there's like, you don't want to worry anybody. So you kind of just like push it off, but yeah, yeah, I'm happy you're feeling better. I'm happy that you didn't die with your 105 degree fever. No death. No death. But yeah, just, you know, let us know right away. Right away. Right away. You will never get in trouble for being sick. If I didn't feel good right now, I would say it. Yeah, yeah, you would never get in trouble. There will never be a moment where you're like, hey, I'm feeling sick and we'll say, oh, Zach's being lazy. No, sick is sick. Far as timing goes a worse, worse timing possible. Yeah, the only people who could be sick in like this show in this in this studio and try to power through it as me and PFT. We'll do that. That's completely. Everyone else can check out. We're usually sick at around the same time. Yeah, in each other's bubbles. Mm-hmm. Just fight through it. Oh, was that noise? No, just like a, that's a burp. You're not 100%. That was not a sick noise. I swear, that was a good. Now everyone's worried that I'm still sick. I just want to say 95%. I haven't been to a doctor. Wow. I got cleared by Woven Degu and my mom. No, that. Your mom cleared you as well. Meams, I can't, I don't think, I think we'd be very hypocritical if we start just being the doctor guys. When you get 105 degree fever, you go to the doctor. We're not doctor guys. No, we don't. Yeah, yeah. Two doctors. That's, that's, fever's on it. I will say, fever's on like a hospital doctor move unless you like really. Sure are. I'm sure are. I am. Yeah. On Zack side. You're an idiot. Yeah, I'm not. You're an idiot. 105. If you get 105 fever, you go to the doctor. But I was tracking. I took, I made sure to take a photo of the thermometer as I dropped to remember where I was at and keep good track like a log. Yeah. They do the same thing on a whiteboard at the doctor. They, they just, they were going to tell me drink fluids, get sleep. No, you get an antibiotic and then you, and then, and then you are actually not like not contagious than 24 hours. That is true. You should have gotten an antibiotic. Yeah. There'll be a plus. I fought the good fight next. They say so long after no more fever. You're not contagious. I'm just going off. Google, let him be in my mother who raised a bunch of kids. Don't, don't tell him that big kid. Two of us. If you shout them out. 105 degree fever, you go to the doctor. No, I don't know. Go to the, yes. Absolutely. Yes. Absolutely. Next time, Nick, I hopefully they'll never be next time. Things got a little dark there for a second, but we're good. Yeah. 105. I'm going to the doctor. No. 108. If you got 108, your brains don't think I think it's a brain thing. That's a brain issue. 105. That's a, that's a sign that there's something bad going on in your body. I was going to go 103, 104 is what it says. You should go to the doctor. We, we disagree. You and I disagree with Google. You guys got to stop going off Google. Yeah. I guess so. I guess you feel sick. Go to the doctor. He's, he's perfect. Nine years. So we're going down. I was so professional. My bad. I started to feel sick too. No, usually we have the button. You were, there's no one over here. It's all right. Do you know how close you were to having bad like the, or the wrath of everyone? I'm still not saying we're out of the way. There was a, there was a 10 hour period where I puked, PFT, puked and Hank sneezed five times. It was an majority of my thoughts was if anyone else was going to get sick. I thought about a lot. It was Tuesday morning. I was like, I puked, PFT is like, I don't Wednesday morning. I was like, yeah, I puked and PFT said, yeah, I puked and Hank's like, yeah, I sneezed five times. Because one of those, there's a little too much. Also, big cats pukes was probably just exercise related. My pukes was just food related. Well, mine was food and exercise. I don't know why you keep saying cussion. I, I, I, I like was just blanked on. Do you remember that dinner? How would you, you said you got to get cussed from lack of oxygen. Yeah, it's my brain. I don't think that that's not how it can. Yeah, you said that the other day without any context that it was like, yeah, no, no, that's that's true. It's, it's a form of CTE. Can't think you cussed. Yeah, there you go. It's like I choke my, choke myself out for an extended period of time. Can't think exercise. CTE. Yeah, there we go. Yeah, CTE. Yeah. Okay, let's, let's wrap up the show. Great. We'll do Wednesday. We'll, we'll clean up some stuff. We have our Silo NBA. Oh, actually, before we do that, let's, let's just look real quick at the draft Kings. Cause you know, it's always sad when football seasons over. And we have a long, long way. I'm, I'm happy for a break. We have a long way to next season. But do you want to look at the odds real quick? Yeah, next season. See how Xerox draft Kings. They got to be favored. Siox are 950. Uh, so 9.5 to 1. Rams are 9.5 to 1. Oh, Matthew Stafford, by the way, congrats on the MVP. Yep. Andy's coming back. He won by one vote, one vote over Drake May. And that one vote might have gone to just from Herbert. Yeah. No. Sam Munson said say, or what was, who was it? Yeah. Sam Munson. He's, he had, he voted Matthew Stafford second. So, okay. So Tim, so it would have gone to Matthew Stafford, if not. People were really mad about that. I, I thought his reasoning wasn't like so bad that he, he, he said, given the circumstances of what the chargers were dealing with offensively, Justin Herbert was the most valuable player for a team that made the playoffs. He is, he's kind of going off the, uh, the true sense of the MVP award. Right. Like if you took Justin Herbert off the chargers, they would be asked or the nasty. They would be mega show. That really asked. And you could probably say the same for the Rams and the Patriots, but yeah, probably. Yeah. Yeah, I think you probably could, but Herbert was like a unique case in that. He not only played really well. He got the shit kicked out of them all season. Yeah. So I disagree with the vote. I don't think that he was an MVP. It did. He's also the, the guy that made Jaden Daniels, not the unanimous MVP last year. Hmm. He likes to. Oh, the rookie of the year. Yeah. Yeah. Rookie. The offense rookie. He likes to zig when people zag the, the, I know that none of the playoffs games count towards MVP. Um, but it did end up becoming like after the fact, good job. You got it right voters because what Matthew Stafford was able to accomplish against the Seahawks defense in both the end of the season and the divisional round. Yeah. Or sorry, the conference championship game versus what Drake may was able to do against them. Yeah. Matthew Stafford. He played, he played the, the Seahawks defense the best you could possibly play outside of actually. Remember that one shootout game, Baker Mayfield. Yeah. The box went into Seattle and one early in the season. That was when Baker was on his weird shit. Yeah. Like at the end of every game. Um, looking at the odds, it looks like Hank. Oh, no, Hank is second on the pod in terms of Super Bowl. No tied tied tied tied with the birds. Yeah. Eagles are 13 to one Patriots are 13 to one. I think now that Hank's gone, we can all admit like Hank was, Hank was right at the start of the year. Yeah. Patriots will be the best team on the podcast. Hank, Hank was so damn right. He knows ball. He really does. I know it's ball. Uh, where are other teams on this? The chargers are 15 to one. She's are 15 to one. Commanders are 60 to one. Bears are 25 to one. Okay. Disrespect box are 40 to one. I love it. Yeah. There's a lot of disrespect. I love it. And then the jets are 200 to one. Don't have a quarterback yet. Yep. Those will skyrocket as soon as we figure out who that is. And who should take it? We have 11 picks. You should take it. Patriots proved it's easy to turn around the team. We'll see. Yep. Nine or 17 to one are the interesting one. I would say. Out of just like the two interesting ones take your biases sides. Don't pick your own team. I would say the two interesting ones for me would be 49 or 17 to one and Jaguar is 20 to one. Jaguar is 21 is interesting. I would say the Ravens Broncos 19 to one is also very interesting. Ravens are interesting. I know. I mean, chiefs 15 to one is interesting. But where's the boys? But home's going to be back for week one. Easy. That's calling on. I don't know. That's good question. I don't know. Yeah. I would say Ravens and and bucks might be interesting. Gonna be fun to look at this. Listen. Football can't get here fast enough. Football's back. Football's so back. Yeah, we'll do some of our offseason resolutions and what we're going to do with all of our time now that football season is over on Wednesday show. And then reminder, Friday, we're going to be Tim Woods, which was, I'll say right now, our best Dungeons and Dragons episode we've ever done. Start to finish. We were locked in the best. He changed it up. He gave us a different type of story storyline to do. Nick joined us. It was so, so much fun. So much fun. We it's a self-contained episode. Usually there's like a cliffhanger. Yeah, because we don't get to the end of it. This time it was like, okay, we're going to start. We're going to finish. And yeah, it was it was very, very funny. Yeah. Okay. Let's do who's back of the week. It is brought to you by Twisted T. Twisted T is refreshing hard ice tea made with real brood tea and 5% alcohol. Twisted T is the perfect drink to keep the good times going all day and all season long. 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It kicked off this weekend with Duke UNC. Yeah. And college basketball rivalries are back. So not just because of the storming of the court. Yep. Which happened twice. Yep. In this game. But because or Queen, Jordan was an attendant. Yes. Queen Jordan was there. Yes. With Bill Bella check. And she was wearing an orchids of Asia Day Spa shirt. Yeah. Unbelieveable. Which is the Day Spa that Robert Kraft got jacked off in. Jordan of the year is open and shocked. That's she's done it. Maybe sure to the year. Or early February. Jordan of the year has been wrapped up. All your other Jordan's go home. Yeah. I think that might be sure to the year. It's all those sometimes the best shirts are the ones you don't wear. Ron Restill approve that. Mm-hmm. The okay. So college basketball. So I'm going to talk about the Duke UNC game. But so I love college basketball. I watch it all like I love Feast Week. I'm watching nonstop this and Max, maybe you can back me up. This might be the best college basketball season we're having right now in a long, long time. It is so loaded at the top. There are you go eight deep of teams that feel like they are like juggernauts like Arizona is the number one team. They're about if you're jumping in right now, Arizona is undefeated. They're about to play an absolute gauntlet of a schedule. Like there's a few. They have Houston. They have Kansas. They have everyone in front of them. Coming up this tonight. Tonight is Arizona. Kansas Michigan's awesome. Yukon who just lost the St. John St. John's. That was an electric atmosphere on Friday night at the garden and Rick Patino afterwards saying like you know, our curfews five a.m. tonight. He was you could tell that that meant something down year for the for the biggest, but still Yukon's very, very good. St. John's Villanova should make the tournament officially a lock. Oh, according to Joe Lennarty. Yeah. Duke good. They they they have lost in, you know, that was a epic choke and meltdown against UNC. Illinois is really good. Gonzaga's did the thing where they basically looked awesome. Got a little injured, but now they're cruising through. There's there are just so many good teams in this college basketball team Nebraska's awesome. They just if you're just getting into to college basketball, this is going to be a really, really fun tournament. I just like saying Nebraska ball. Dude, they're they're really good. I mean, they're they're really, really good Michigan state and Kansas is coming on strong. There are so many good teams this year and it's going to be such a fun tournament. Maybe not for your upsets, but actually maybe so because it does like I said, you have like eight to ten teams that you could feel pretty confident can can can make a championship run. So a couple of those who get picked off and there'll be can's very significant upsets. Yeah, I do like that the power conferences have great teams this year. Yeah, very good teams. So the Duke UNC game. God damn it. I love the John Shire is giving us this that he is he is roping me back into my due hatred. I thought I was going to die after coach K stepped aside, but man, to have that loss where they choke down the stretch and then get in front of the podium and say I don't I don't want to make it about the he said it's hard to talk about the game when I was most concerned for the safety of our players. I don't want to make it about that, but I got staff members that got punched in the face. That's not what this game is about. That was a scary ending. Has anyone seen any I know there was a water bottle thrown, which if you go back to two years ago or last year when UNC wanted to on Duke's court, there was water bottles being thrown at UNC players. So save me the bullshade if you're a Duke fan who's pretending like this could never happen in Cameron. It absolutely could. I just love when Duke loses. They can't just lose. They have to make it about the something. I remember what was the what was the guy's name? Phil Phil Palsky. Yeah, Phil Palsky. I was about to ask you when he said he got you know, well he didn't punched. He hasn't been the same player since that. Yeah, it's just it's so perfectly Duke and Duke fans talking. They were Duke fans were complaining about the father's only one file called on UNC in the second half. Oh my God, because that ever when his Duke ever Duke always gets the bad whistle. This never this is bullshit. It shouldn't happen. The players shouldn't the coaches getting punched in the face. Listen, if your coaching staff is getting punched in the face and beaten up by the UNC student section, still haven't seen a picture of the punch. That to me is a skill issue. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. The and then and then Duke fans flipping to, you know, don't compare these two programs because they storm the court. We would never were real blue blood. I just love it. I love it so much. Duke a bunch of pricks that just can't lose a game and just lose a game. It has to be something bigger. That was always my problem with with coach K's when they lose. It has to be something bigger than just basketball. It has to be you know, teaching men, kids to be come men or unsportsman like or this or that or the other. Just lose the fucking game. You lost the game. You choked. You guys are choked. Too good of a program to be storming the court like that. Yeah. You should, yeah, you should not think that beating us is that important to you. That's always my favorite. Like you should be better than that when coaches do that. Because in a way, you're putting down your own team. Yeah. For like making it, making your team so such like a big juggernaut that another team wants to storm the court after they beat you should want that. Yeah. You should want that hatred from the other fans. The funniest part is when you try to storm the court and then you get like the lanyard all stars running out onto the court to tell them the game's not over yet. And then you just have like associate in turn athletic staff department people just begging the students like go back to your seats and then watching the word spread amongst the crab that's already stormed the court. Like file orderly back to their seats sit down and then get ready to storm the court again. Yeah. It never has the same pop. Good. I mean, it was actually a good job with UNC clearing that court. They should get credit for that. They should. Yeah, but it was just so perfect. It was such a great Saturday college basketball, except for what happened in Indiana, but I'm not going to complain about refs, but that was an injustice. What happened to the badgers. And if we miss the tournament because that'll be very, very upset. Either way, you had the Michigan State Illinois game. The college basketball is at a great spot right now. If you are one of those people that says that, you know, the NIL has ruined college sports and you don't know the guys on your team anymore, you can make that argument. I would make the counter argument for basketball specifically. The fact that we have NIL and guys get paid. You have some super, super talented guys playing in college basketball now. Some European guys, some guys who are staying a little bit longer because it's, you know, make they can make more money playing college basketball. You got some pros that are playing college basketball. Pros and Alabama. Yeah, the games have ever been stronger. And then you have some phenomenal freshman this year as well. It's going to be a loaded draft. So this is if you are on the fence of what should I get into college basketball. I cannot stress it enough is going to be awesome for the next five weeks. It has been awesome and it will continue to be awesome going into March. I did like the quote from Greg guard where he said this was a stolen win on stolen land. Yeah. And he said this is a stolen win on stolen land. Yeah, it was a crazy fucking call, but whatever. And then, and then what pissed me off more is that afterwards, if you zoom in and go slow mo, their feet got tangled, that was not what the ref called. He didn't call a trip or anything, but everyone's like, see, it was a trip. That was the right call, whatever. I got I, I'm still shocked at 41 years old that I can have something like that happen on a Saturday and it was the early game. So it was like one o'clock and have a completely ruin the rest of my day. And I have to be more mature about it. I have to like I have to be more mature now. I have to realize that you can't have something like that. Father you to such a level that it ruins your day. That's what sports are for. I understand, but like then I'm like going and playing. I did play with my kids all afternoon, but I still in the back of my head, I was like, I cannot believe that call happened when you're fighting for your tournament life. Piss me off. Okay, my who's back the week is Lindsey Vaughn. I said it last week, not I hope she's okay. Is she okay? She got air lifted off the mountain. But was that airlift because like how else are you going to get off the mountain? I think airlifting off the mountain is what happens when you have a bad injury. It's not always like it's not the same as getting airlifted off of the sidewalk. Yeah, where it's like we have to helicopter you to hospital, but yeah, it's not good that she got that a helicopter had to take her away. I feel bad for her. I hope she's okay. But I did kind of call when I said that I basically every time they say, hey, hey, Lindsey Vaughn's about to ski him. She's gonna crash. She's also like, I woke up and they're like, hey, Lindsey Vaughn competed this morning and she crashed. The fact that she was in the Olympics and that she was competing was pretty amazing. Yeah, she did not have an ACL. She had a torn ACL and she was doing the slalom, which I'm not a skier. So maybe I'm way off based on that. It seems like that'd be a hard sport to compete in without an ACL. Yeah, I feel really bad for her for even going out there and trying it. And then I saw some people saying that it was unrelated to her ACL. This crash was unrelated. I think it, you know, one thing leads to another when you're going down a mountain that fast. If she had an ACL, it probably makes it less likely that she crashes. Yeah, I don't know. I just, I feel like this goes for all of, uh, maybe it's just because I don't really, I'm not a big ski guy, but I just tune in. It's like, oh, and there's a crash. So I feel bad for her. I hope she's okay. I think we want gold. And in skiing. Yeah, let's go. I'm pretty sure the, I'm pretty sure. Do we win gold? And that's shit. We did. Fuck yes. When does team USA house? Oh, shit. We're at two gold medals. I need hold on. USA hockey plays Thursday and Saturday. Love that. Who are you playing to? 44. I need 14 more gold medals to hit that bet. I feel like we got the, the easiest group in hockey, right? We should go, we should go two and one. I really don't know. I don't know. I, they started the Olympics out of nowhere. Well, the fact that they started before the Super Bowl. It's crazy. Yeah. Everybody's word. I'm thinking about football. Yeah. I don't have time to think about curling. Well, and also they got, I need, I need you to warm up. I don't, I don't want Lindsey Vaughan. Again, I, I wish she hadn't crashed. I don't need the, the giant slalom skiing happening like two days in the Olympics. Give me a little of that thing where they ski around and shoot at something. Give me the curve. Give me the, give me the lose or the skeleton, whatever the fuck it is. Save the big dog sports. I want to see ski jump. I want to see giant slalom. I want to see Bob sled. Second week. And we've got more, more of the ski jumping shenanigans. Have you been reading about what they're doing now? Yeah, they're, they're putting some in their penis. They inject shit into their penises when they're getting fitted for the suits because it gives you like a little extra suit space. Yeah. Which again, makes you fly a little bit further. So now they're going to have to do like standardized testing. All nude. You're going to have like the piss test people walk in and just make sure that they're not chubbing up before that. Yeah. Yeah. We got Latvia on Thursday, Denmark Saturday, and then Germany on Sunday. In Men's Ice hockey. That seems like a group we should win. It seems like it's all signs pointing towards USA Canada. Yeah. I'm ready for it. I'll have to get older here for it. Busy busy. Gotta go. Gotta go. What do you got? Zach. My who's back in the week is a dude who want to space travel. Oh, you guys, you guys are familiar like last couple of years, space weeks. I've been talking about building the self like fulfilling colony on Mars, right? Yeah. They pivoted to the moon. So we're doing the moon. So now, so instead of trying to build the colony on Mars or like they shifted focus to building it on the moon, which they say they can do in a decade. It's instead like 20 plus years. We're about that phrase. Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you land upon the Mars. Why don't we just try to do that? We went back to the moon. Yeah. So when was that? So we're doing the now they're doing the moon and you can go every like 10 days. Oh, so they're going to build it super fast. We're not actually on the moon yet though. No, they haven't been back super recent. No, but like think about it. We got to space station. And like to do the Mars travel, it was you could only go once every 26 months when the planets like aligned up. You can hit the moon every 10 days. It is crazy to think about like 100 and what is that 150 years ago, we didn't even have we didn't have cars. And then we went to the moon. Yeah, it's credit to us. Yeah, we did a good job. We fucked rock now. We're thinking about like apartments on the moon. Right. Apartments, houses, sport football. So there's no football. Throw it by the way, Zach. There's no football on the moon. Like I really don't think that you can watch TV on the moon. Oh, they're going to oh, they'll get good. That was going to put a game on the moon and and Hank's going to be like, it's a good idea. We're going to get the intergalactic audience. Grow the game. Yeah. Feels a little tickle my throat, Zach. Me too. I've been through on watch. Feel like Max might not be here. You're who's back of the week. My who's back of the week is Hank Toys. Yeah. Yeah. It just so happened that we got a huge shipment in right when the game hit zeroes tonight. So as of now, they're still in stock. I don't know what for now. There's a whole lot of them. We've sold a whole lot of them, but we got a big shipment in. So we have a lot of stock. But we're running low. If you want your Hank Toys, I know a lot of people were trying to get it. When we first put it out for Black Friday, there are still some available. As I say this right now, I hope that this, the people that really one of them can hear this and go buy it before it sells out. Because it's going to sell out. It's going to sell quickly. I want to make something very clear though. It was not my idea to put these back up. It was not Max's idea to put these back up. It was not big cats idea to put these back up. Memes. It was memes. And memes. That's your decision. We were cues ourselves, conflict of interest. So can you just back us up on that memes? Yeah. 100% of my decision wasn't influenced at all. Correct. A lot of people were like, the way you just said it, the way you just said it made it seem like you were influenced, but you weren't. No, wasn't influenced at all. Okay. All right. Good. Love that. We just needed somebody to make the final decision. I'm happy that you stepped up. Imparsely. Yeah. Yeah. It seems like a lot of people wanted a dog toy. This just feels like a good perfect time. No reason. Yeah. I'm happy dogs are happy. Yeah. Dogs are happy. Dog owners are happy. We're all happy. Yeah. Good job, memes. Good decision. Okay, boys. Great show. Grateful fall season. Like we said, Versillo on Wednesday and then Tim Woods. And then we're back from vacation after that. Boys, we got a new lottery ball machine and it is glorious. Holy fuck. It's futuristic. I was I came into the office before the soup bowl and went to put something by my desk and I almost like I like bumped into it looked up. Love it first sight. It was like, whoa, how'd you get here lottery ball machine from the future? Looks like a thick ass or two D2. Yeah. So none of us have gotten it on this before. Now the only problem that we're going to have to figure out is when you turn it on, it sounds like a lawn mower and then it does get a little bit quieter, but we'll see if this works. Hold on. Ready? It's got blue balls too, which is nice. The thing comes. Yeah. What do I got? I mean, it just goes for the V8. This section. I don't hate the lawn mower. No, no, but the problem is it does go silent and then comes back randomly. It's a car. What's the fuel injection? All right. So you see is there a ball right there? There's a ball right there up top. 32. Wow. That's how you put them back. Are you guys around? I didn't see it. 56. Those balls fly good. Oh my bad. Numbers. 56. No, Max. You can't do that. Because you lose your turn. 56. Oh, wait. Why did that happen? I think you guys say, you guys say numbers earlier now. What was the number? It was 71. It's not count. All right. It doesn't count. We're still figuring it out. Wait. You got to, you got to declare numbers earlier now. Okay. Numbers. Very 56. Oh, anything is loud. I can't. I can't. I have to go last. Why did you go last? Because he accidentally ruined. He went early. 10. 23. 14. 23. I think it's a homin. It stops though. It's stopped for a while. 28. 88. 65. 27. 27. Why do you want more since it's the first time? Yeah. Break it in a little bit. Look, see it stopped. The sound stopped. Oh, yeah. So I don't, I don't understand that. We're going to figure that out. This is fine. We'll do the same, same numbers. Same numbers. Same numbers. What did I say? 23. Yeah. Here it goes. It looks so good. Look at how fucking listens to it flies. Nice. And it is 54. Oh, damn. Okay. One more. Happy birthday. You want to go one more? Yeah, break it in. We have break it in. All right. Last one. Last one. Same numbers. Same numbers. You just want to get it for a so bad. I'm the only one who got this. I just like they're getting bigger and bigger. So everyone gets it again. No one's got it. Yeah. 31. Happy birthday to Sequan Barkley, Cooper DeGene, and John Krull. Oh, yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah. The big three. Nice. You guys are also no longer Super Bowl champions. Yeah, but that's happy birthday though to Cooper DeGene and Sequan. Love you guys. And sports winning takes more than talent. It takes strength, reliability, and the drive to go to the distance. Sound familiar? That's the same DNA you'll find in the Chevy Silverado. As capable and dependable as a winning team, Chevy Silverado shows up at gets the job done. It won't flinch when the pressure is on. It doesn't take place off when it comes to trucks. Chevy Silverado's football guy approved. To learn more about Silverado, visit Chevy.com.